found you from the credits of a manual for a tin flute kontakt library! I took flute lessons for months yet this video taught me more about this lovely instrument in 2 minutes. Deserves so much more views =)
Can you please teach people how to do the cool effects with their instruments like growling or beatboxing? It is something that I know most people are not often taught. It would be so cool if you could. Thank you for what you do already!
Your tremolos and growls sent me running to the piano to see what harmonies with 3 flutes and a n alto flute with low oboes over low double basses and percussion h I could come up with.You have been todays inspiration.Every moment ideas are flocking thrushing in my head but it was great to hear instead of read it in a Kenan,Piston,Adler ,widor etc orchestration books.Thanks ! I think I'll write a Flute concerto now !
@@sebastianzaczek Not quite unfortunately... most good beatbox snare sounds are inhaled, when you're doing beatbox flute everything has to be exhaled or it doesn't have the same effect.
You put in (in this case) the two half notes you want, go to the third menu in the keypad, and click the bottom right option with the bar selected. The two half notes should become two whole notes. Quarters become halves, etc.
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Hello. I'm actually studying the score "Jurassic Park" from John Milliams, and I can see tremolos on the flute, oboe and clarinet parts.... I didn't even know it was possible. How do oyu do that ? how does it sound ? I need to know to make an accurate midi mockup... Best regards
Anyone who is wondering how to play your low notes loud, start on the middle C, on a strong forte, and work your way down to the low B as loud as possible. I myself can, in fact, get a Mezzo Forte low B, and worked quite extensively on the low register.
I think it'll be enough, but there's a piece by Kokoras called "Cycling" and it uses this technique (and many others) too, so if you need some inspiration on how to notate something, have a look at it
When playing with the headjoint, I guess you have to tune your instrument again when you go back to regular playing ? Is there some kind of a caution rule for that ?
That is technically true, but for many professional players that shouldn't be a problem. Most players should know about where they are in tune, and should be able to quickly adjust without stopping to tune again. In many professional situations it's not uncommon that an ensemble won't even tune once.
Can anyone elaborate on "blow up overtones" technique? I'm trying to understand it more, but this is literally the *only* place I can find this technique (at least, by the name you've given it). Thanks!
Hey there! Yeah I couldn't really find a good name for it either, but it's such a thing that I wanted to include it. Basically it's a tremolo, usually a minor third, and something easily played (F-Ab or C-Eb would be pretty clunky). And then the player just blows through the overtone series while maintaining the tremolo. You can even add a growl in there to make it really vibey
This helped tons! I have a question though; what are the most likely notes that can be played with the headjoint? High ones, goes without question i guess, but can you go into details on this matter?
For my headjoint, I was getting a Bb closed, an A a major 7th above that open, and the when I blew to the next overtone it was F to A above. It's also not hard to bend the pitch down a half step from any of those notes, maybe a whole step. I doubt it varies that much with different headjoints, however you'd certainly get other pitches with an alto flute or piccolo headjoint.
wow im fascinated by the "tremelo overtones" effect you mentioned but I am having a hard time understanding how to write using this effect. Any additional info is appreciated! cheers
It's not too too complicated. It's a good mysterious sound, works well in passages that aren't really locked into time. It'd be pretty safe to use it under a fermata. Also a pretty common technique you hear in Latin flute soloing. Let me know if you have any more specific questions!
May I ask how you did that portamento thingy? I've been playing flute for about five years but I've never heard of that technique. Also, is growling on the flute similar to fluttertounging?
It’s just dynamics. Sure, a great professional flautist can really dig those notes out, but in the context of most ensembles those notes will be inaudible.
Wait actually you were right! Just saw the comment but didn’t check which video 😅 I keep a quenacho there these days, the quena was a little too small for that spot. And also I’m hoping to get these instruments way more known with this channel. Really hope to make a lot of traditional instruments more mainstream.
@@JoshPlotner That's cool! I know a guy here in Chile that makes the best instruments and sends them to all over the world. If you need just let me know! Also if you ever want to collab, haha. :)
Hello. I'm back again with another question :) I have heard of a technique where you play a phrase with all the notes bent down a half step (which is supposed to give a sort of bamboo flute-ish sound). I was wondering what range this is possible or practical in, and do you have any advice on notation? Should I write it at played pitch and write "sounding 1/2 step down" above the staff? Thanks again for all your help!
I wouldn't say it really sounds like a bamboo flute. What it does is soften the sound quite a bit (to the point that without a mic I'd be skeptical of live use), and it has a more subdued timbre. If you want a bamboo flute sound, this technique won't help much. It has the same effect in every register, but lower is probably better. The way you said to notate it should work well.
If you know any flute players, I'm sure they'd be happy to show you! I really don't think this technique has that much practical use though. It could be cool to play a line and then bend it down and play it again though.
If it's just a solo, and your flute player is capable, just write "ala Ian Anderson" or something similar. But most of what he does is growling, hard articulations, and harmonic fingerings for high notes. That and he often used effects like delay and reverb a lot. Nothing too too complicated.
No, you need a reed to do slap tongue--the technique is similar to clicking your tongue on the roof of your mouth, except using the reed. You could use beatbox notation (to me at least, the example in my video is a simple/clear way to notate that; it's definitely not standardized), or marcatto accents perhaps. Either way, concise verbal instructions are usually the best way to be clear.
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Blowing up the overtone is such a cool and underused effect. Great video!
found you from the credits of a manual for a tin flute kontakt library! I took flute lessons for months yet this video taught me more about this lovely instrument in 2 minutes. Deserves so much more views =)
Can you please teach people how to do the cool effects with their instruments like growling or beatboxing? It is something that I know most people are not often taught. It would be so cool if you could. Thank you for what you do already!
Your tremolos and growls sent me running to the piano to see what harmonies with 3 flutes and a n alto flute with low oboes over low double basses and percussion h I could come up with.You have been todays inspiration.Every moment ideas are flocking thrushing in my head but it was great to hear instead of read it in a Kenan,Piston,Adler ,widor etc orchestration books.Thanks ! I think I'll write a Flute concerto now !
how do you beat box into your flute??
Check out this video! ruclips.net/video/rEqhJy5ODAg/видео.html
literally just beat box into your flute...
@@sebastianzaczek Not quite unfortunately... most good beatbox snare sounds are inhaled, when you're doing beatbox flute everything has to be exhaled or it doesn't have the same effect.
0:08 Flute Concertino by Cécile Chaminade?
Awesome job, Josh. So much information presented, very clearly. Much appreciated.
Great video! This was very helpful!
i love this video! so informative and exactly what I need for my scoring:)
For a moment I thought that's a collection of samurai swords behind you.
Great room for a shakuhachi video?
I'll definitely get to it, don't worry! I figure I should get to the more common ones before diving into the unusual woodwinds.
Flute players, where you at? 😊
Blossomtail the Warrior here 🙋
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Nice, you own a shakuhachi yuu. I have that one too, great instrument for the price and especially considering it's a plastic flute!
Dude... you're amazing
Hey hi, how do you write this tremolo (blow up overtones (1:46)) between notes in Sibelius?
You put in (in this case) the two half notes you want, go to the third menu in the keypad, and click the bottom right option with the bar selected. The two half notes should become two whole notes. Quarters become halves, etc.
I have a issue with that, because im wirtting in free rithym notation and I have no bars. :/
I love your channel man!
tHIS IS GREAT STUFF.nOTHING BEATS HEARING AS MANY ORCHESTRAL AN D SOLO AND ENSEMBLE WORKS BUT THIS IS VERY HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE.i MUST CHECK OUT THE iBERT,.i LOVE THE uNSUK CHIN AND eLLIOTTcARTER FLUTE CONCERTI !
jet whistling is cool too
Hello. I'm actually studying the score "Jurassic Park" from John Milliams, and I can see tremolos on the flute, oboe and clarinet parts....
I didn't even know it was possible. How do oyu do that ? how does it sound ? I need to know to make an accurate midi mockup...
Best regards
Well that's usually played with flutter tonguing
Anyone who is wondering how to play your low notes loud, start on the middle C, on a strong forte, and work your way down to the low B as loud as possible. I myself can, in fact, get a Mezzo Forte low B, and worked quite extensively on the low register.
Great Instrument Videos, but where is a Video for the lovely Oboe? Can you make one? Lovely Regards
Very helpful.
Beatboxing was so cool!!
The overtones + tremolo technique sounds beautiful, do you know any pieces that include that technique?
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So, to ask for this kind of "octave overtone glissando" the words "blow up overtone(s)" are enough or is it necessary more notational information?
I think it'll be enough, but there's a piece by Kokoras called "Cycling" and it uses this technique (and many others) too, so if you need some inspiration on how to notate something, have a look at it
How do you double or triple tongue?
That beat box tho!!!
What flute brand would you recommend? Cause I’m struggling to find one
How do you growl?
You hum while playing.
interesting im going to try that on my sisters sax and my trumpet
Thank you, I find these videos very helpful! But I'm a bit confused, by portamento do you actually mean glissando?
I knew the head joint stuff and flutter-tonguing (which is actually incredibly fun and spooks the trumpets), but how do you beat box, growl, etc?
Do Oboe PLS 💗
When playing with the headjoint, I guess you have to tune your instrument again when you go back to regular playing ? Is there some kind of a caution rule for that ?
That is technically true, but for many professional players that shouldn't be a problem. Most players should know about where they are in tune, and should be able to quickly adjust without stopping to tune again. In many professional situations it's not uncommon that an ensemble won't even tune once.
How fast can you go from playing the head joint to assembling and playing the flute again?
I'd say give it 5 seconds to be safe? You don't want to rush the player too much... having an improperly assembled flute is no fun at all
Can you send the link of your flute?
1:36 I was out of breath just looking at that
Pretty doable tho
Can anyone elaborate on "blow up overtones" technique?
I'm trying to understand it more, but this is literally the *only* place I can find this technique (at least, by the name you've given it).
Thanks!
Hey there! Yeah I couldn't really find a good name for it either, but it's such a thing that I wanted to include it. Basically it's a tremolo, usually a minor third, and something easily played (F-Ab or C-Eb would be pretty clunky). And then the player just blows through the overtone series while maintaining the tremolo. You can even add a growl in there to make it really vibey
2:14 Mandalorian vibes
Great brief very useful vid! Could I ask you how you would notate the "blow up overtones"? Is it hard for a decent-level amateur to play?
This helped tons! I have a question though; what are the most likely notes that can be played with the headjoint? High ones, goes without question i guess, but can you go into details on this matter?
For my headjoint, I was getting a Bb closed, an A a major 7th above that open, and the when I blew to the next overtone it was F to A above. It's also not hard to bend the pitch down a half step from any of those notes, maybe a whole step. I doubt it varies that much with different headjoints, however you'd certainly get other pitches with an alto flute or piccolo headjoint.
Can someone recommend me some pieces with flute growling? :)
wow im fascinated by the "tremelo overtones" effect you mentioned but I am having a hard time understanding how to write using this effect. Any additional info is appreciated! cheers
It's not too too complicated. It's a good mysterious sound, works well in passages that aren't really locked into time. It'd be pretty safe to use it under a fermata. Also a pretty common technique you hear in Latin flute soloing. Let me know if you have any more specific questions!
Awesome. Helped me a lot.
BTW can you do an oboe one as well?
Here from the future. Thanks for making an oboe video!!(:
How do you do a flutter tongue?
May I ask how you did that portamento thingy? I've been playing flute for about five years but I've never heard of that technique. Also, is growling on the flute similar to fluttertounging?
Why do you say to not write below a first octave G? - is it just the dynamics or are there other challenges?
It’s just dynamics. Sure, a great professional flautist can really dig those notes out, but in the context of most ensembles those notes will be inaudible.
@@JoshPlotner Thanks for the clarification and great advice
What is the name of the excerpt do you play in the beginning?
It's the Chaminade Concertino!
Josh Plotner thanks! It's so pretty it reminds me a little of the intermezzo in the Carmen suite
I believe the more official name for the "Thunk effect" is "Tongue Ram."
What is your favorite flute passage in the literature? :)
Is that a quena in the back?
Great video!
Quenacho!
@@JoshPlotner Great! I'm glad you have one, they aren't that known outside of this countries. :)
Wait actually you were right! Just saw the comment but didn’t check which video 😅 I keep a quenacho there these days, the quena was a little too small for that spot.
And also I’m hoping to get these instruments way more known with this channel. Really hope to make a lot of traditional instruments more mainstream.
@@JoshPlotner That's cool! I know a guy here in Chile that makes the best instruments and sends them to all over the world. If you need just let me know!
Also if you ever want to collab, haha. :)
Thank you sooooo much! You are incredible! can you recommend more contemporary pieces that you like?
lol I'm working on the ibert concerto
I love that concerto! Worked on it all throughout my senior year of high school. Still play it sometimes... it's just a great piece of music.
My favorite part of it is about 4 minutes in on the second movement. One of the most magical moments in all of music in my opinion.
Ugh yes. That movement is so hard to play right but absolutely gorgeous. Have you heard Pahud's recording?
Yes! It is so amazing! I am playing this movement at my flute teachers studio recital tomorrow. Wish me luck lol. I really don't want to mess it up.
Thanks for the advice! I'll let you know how it goes!
Lol. I can play the full flute range and it's really fun
what song did you open with?
Greg Pattillo's cover of Inspector Gadget, and then the Chaminade Concertino
Josh Plotner thank you
2:12 best moment
Hello. I'm back again with another question :) I have heard of a technique where you play a phrase with all the notes bent down a half step (which is supposed to give a sort of bamboo flute-ish sound). I was wondering what range this is possible or practical in, and do you have any advice on notation? Should I write it at played pitch and write "sounding 1/2 step down" above the staff?
Thanks again for all your help!
I wouldn't say it really sounds like a bamboo flute. What it does is soften the sound quite a bit (to the point that without a mic I'd be skeptical of live use), and it has a more subdued timbre. If you want a bamboo flute sound, this technique won't help much. It has the same effect in every register, but lower is probably better.
The way you said to notate it should work well.
+Josh Plotner Okay, cool! Thanks for the advice. Do you have any recommendations for how I can find out what the technique sounds like?
If you know any flute players, I'm sure they'd be happy to show you! I really don't think this technique has that much practical use though. It could be cool to play a line and then bend it down and play it again though.
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oh my god i was in a symphony. I had to play a high F in ppp
but i NEED you to gliss between B and D!
Glissing is no problem! Just no portamento. If you can find an open hole alto flute though we can fill that gap...
+Josh Plotner I knew I used the wrong Italian word!
Lol from beat box to Chaminade hell yes
I just want to learn how to notate what Ian Anderson does.
If it's just a solo, and your flute player is capable, just write "ala Ian Anderson" or something similar. But most of what he does is growling, hard articulations, and harmonic fingerings for high notes. That and he often used effects like delay and reverb a lot. Nothing too too complicated.
What about slap tongue? You don't cover that I think. Is it something flutists can do?
No, you need a reed to do slap tongue--the technique is similar to clicking your tongue on the roof of your mouth, except using the reed. You could use beatbox notation (to me at least, the example in my video is a simple/clear way to notate that; it's definitely not standardized), or marcatto accents perhaps. Either way, concise verbal instructions are usually the best way to be clear.
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