InspiringPhilosophy has a series called Bible Contradictions Refuted so watch that before only looking at one side and saying christianity is false based on supposed bible contradictions.
All the triggered Christians in the comments thinking this video is about whether the Bible has contradictions in it.. talk about waving a big flag that says “I didn’t understand what was being said in this video.”
Well said and well noticed. This ubiquitousness of the Bible was particularly useful during the time when the common folk couldn't read the Bible so the church could use whatever verse suited them at a given time
Thank you brother. To add, it’s also so long that I don’t think many people can even hold a good single mental image of truly ALL the contents of it at once, even once people could read.
I'm assuming that if "the contradictions in the Bible are a tool for control", you have some examples of how the contradictions help that control? Because I'm sure nobody goes "ah, yes I learned that James says there were 5 witnesses to the Resurrection, John says they were 10, thus I'll tithe 15% instead of 10% this year".
The contradictions may not be about control, but other changes no doubt were. Easy changes to see are found by looking up these verses in modern translations (not KJV): - Mathew 23:14, Matthew 17:21, Matthew 18:11. - Mark 7:16, Mark 9:44, Mark 9:46, Mark 11:26, Mark 15:28. - Luke 17:36. - John 5:4. - Acts 8:37, Acts 15:34, Acts 24:7, Acts 28:29. - Romans 16:24. These are only a few from a certain time period. There are many more instances where accidental or intentional changes were made to the text.
The irony of this entire comment section blowing up, is that this book is designed to have people arguing about it. And so we are! It is very effective at that! THAT IS THE POINT OF MY VIDEO by the way. Thank you.
Myself, I'm already very aware of the many contradictions in the Bible so no need to spell them out to me again. But, quick research will render many answers. Aside from research, my first suggestion would be to do a horizontal study of the resurrection story. Read each account, write down each thing that happen in each account then compare the two. In a few minutes you will have discovered quite a few contradictions.
This is not a good faith question. It is designed to force the other to provide an ever more unreasonably specific on the spot citations; all so you can then go “aha see you don’t even know what you’re talking about.” This is nonsensical however. Why would I waste time memorizing every single little thing about something I don’t agree with, when I have things that are valuable to me to spend time memorizing. It’s like trying to poke at someone’s claim that “the holocaust was bad” and then being like “well if that’s true name all the specific things they did and why they were so terrible.” There is ample historical record already my friend. I am allowed to build off of the work of others to make further contributions to the conversation. You being stuck on demanding proof of contradictions just shows how little you understood of what the actual claim in this video is. Sorry.
@@TripSmith Hey brosky, you’re the RUclipsr. Could you please make your next video more detailed? It was a nice video though. I’d love to hear you talk more. I’m an orthodox Christian.
@@JustinsThoughts I have not memorized every verse either. I’m simply pointing out that if you want to make a video saying the holy book of the most popular religion in the world and the foundation of western society is intentionally contradictory, you should at the very least show one of these contradictions. I’m left to imagine you’re talking about Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John not telling the exact same story? When an investigator arrives on a crime scene the first thing they do is separate witnesses because if they talk they’re all going to “remember” the same details. Independent witnesses will remember different details of the same event.
Merely asserting the Bible is contradictory is pretty weak without giving a single example of a contradiction. Many alledged contradictions are easily explained if you know the Bible well enough - but avoiding any concrete examples deprives me of anything to refute :P So, any one got any examples for me?
Why not look it up for yourself? If this video failed to explain contradictions to your satisfaction then use the information super highway to find better videos explaining contradictions in the bible. To be real people in comments suck at communicating there positions most of the time so just look it up bruv. I would recommend mindshifts youtube channel, theres a lot of well thought out content on there waiting for you.
Myself, I'm already very aware of the many contradictions in the Bible so no need to spell them out to me again. But, quick research will render many answers. Aside from research, my first suggestion would be to do a horizontal study of the resurrection story. Read each account, write down each thing that happen in each account then compare the two. In a few minutes you will have discovered quite a few contradictions.
@user-ci4hi2ui2k I think that's something of an oversimplification, Christians were happily reading Paul and James long before any schism relating to justification by faith or by works arose, and when it did, it was not on the basis of Paul vs James, but rather, the Scriptures (Paul + James et al) vs Roman tradition, which had accrued over 1,500 years. Rome certainly tries to use James to support their view of justification today, but that's not what caused the schism. As for the scriptures, Paul makes it crystal clear that salvation is by faith, not works, so that no man may boast - but also reminds us that that is not an excuse to go on sinning "so grace by abound". Likewise, James teaches us that faith without works is dead, that a person who claims to have faith, but doesn't help those in need when they have the opportunity, does not really have faith. There is thus no contradiction - good works are the product of living faith, not the cause of salvation. We work because we are saved, not in order to be saved, because no amount of good works is sufficient to pay for our sins.
@user-ci4hi2ui2k I think that's something of an oversimplification: Christians were happily reading Paul and James long before any schism relating to justification by faith or by works arose, and when it did, it was not on the basis of Paul vs James, but rather, the Scriptures (Paul + James et al) vs Roman tradition, which had accrued over 1,500 years. Rome certainly tries to use James to support their view of justification today, but that's not what caused the schism. As for the scriptures, Paul makes it crystal clear that salvation is by faith, not works, so that no man may boast - but also reminds us that that is not an excuse to go on sinning "so grace by abound". Likewise, James teaches us that faith without works is dead, that a person who claims to have faith, but doesn't help those in need when they have the opportunity, does not really have faith. There is thus no contradiction - good works are the product of living faith, not the cause of salvation. We work because we are saved, not in order to be saved, because no amount of good works is sufficient to pay for our sins.
On the contrary, it’s simply that you’ve misidentified my claim, thinking it is about whether there are contradictions in the Bible. This is not my argument. This is indisputable fact among religious scholars who’ve studied it a lot more than me. The claim I’m making is that these aren’t due to the human error or bad editing people often attribute it to, but rather is part of the mechanism that makes it work at all. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature. That’s my claim. Is that not substantiated? Are you saying the Bible is simply sloppy? Probably not.
I grew up Jehovah's Witness. We were told that Bible students in the 1800s were beginning to figure out that the churches had the message wrong, so a lot of guys like Charles Taze Russell, Nelson Barbour, Jonas Wendell and other Adventists began working out new theologies, particularly with the End Times a large focus. They began to argue against the Trinity, the immortality of the soul, what hell is, and made some pretty good progress. JWs are careful to say it was direct inspiration by God but they do say by 1919 Jesus had chosen them specifically after inspecting all the churches to provide doctrinal leadership over his people. If you look at early Watchtower literature from the 1910s to the 1950s they were quite scathing, especially criticizing the Catholic Church, for getting the whole Bible wrong. It's a fascinating insight into how the Bible can be made to say anything you want it to say. Dan McClellan would agree with you, that the Bible has no inherent meaning. We ascribe meaning to it based on what we want it to say. In the case of JWs, initially they were really sincere in trying to figure it out and what it meant for man's destiny. That all changed about 100 years ago when their organization became the main focus, and still is today. I will say when I grew up in the 70s and 80s most JWs would be very happy to have a discussion about the Bible. These days, sadly, they will mostly play a video for you with happy trees and smiling faces then point you to the website. The old days of Watchtower pretending to be scholarly in their approach is gone.
Wow, you’re an excellent writer. Thank you for the insight there. I may talk about it in a video but I reckon as more people have left the church there has been a “brain drain” of more moderating voices. Just a hypothesis though.
The thing is, its more than a book, its the inspired word of god. Which makes the obvious contradictions more puzzling. Did the people who assembled the writings just assume that "normal" people would never learn to read?
God wants people to be confused and divided (or he doesn’t exist thank god). Source from the Bible itself: 10 Then the disciples came up and asked Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered them, “Because the secrets of the kingdom of heaven have been given for you to know, but it has not been given to them. 12 For whoever has, more will be given to him, and he will have more than enough. But whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 For this reason I speak to them in parables, because looking they do not see, and hearing they do not listen or understand. (Matthew 13:10-13, HCSB) “It’s out of context it’s out of context” yeah bro, no, this is the context for all the other verses lol Anyway, it’s just another thought.. hope you have a good day 🫶
@@Bunlover117 had a feeling being more controversial would help lol - thanks for adding some references 👌 highly recommend @mindshift-brandon for really getting into the weeds.
All good bro. I figured from how you wrote your message, just saying you might also enjoy Brandon’s videos. Before them I had a much more laissez-faire attitude to Christianity, but yeah turns out there’s a lot more problematic stuff in the Bible than modern Christians would like to believe.
This scriptures call you to repentance and that God is holy and righteous and just and He will punish sin. The bible is the word of God and you will bow the knee and you will confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father for all eternity. Only question is how? Christ your king and redeemer or as your Lord and judge?
@@JustinsThoughts I admit, it was a coment made in anoyance , but ultimatly it was not to provoke anger ; Im glad you took it as a joke . Keep searching and knocking , you do not know where or when the answer will come.
A bit of a satirical response, on why the bible contains so many contradictions: It's a test by the REAL god. It wants to test people whether they can think for themselves, or whether they'd believe obvious fabrications. And the ones who dispel the illusion are the worthy ones. It flips religion on its head :D From blind faith to rational thinking.
For the very many Christians in the comments, you will all likely go to great lengths to affirm your beliefs. Mark, Mathew, Luke, and John, are not all consistent, and this is the belief of the majority of Bible scholars. The discussion typically is about why they differ, and not that they are all actually consistent.
Bro, how cold was it in your room? Am I imagining it, or can I see your breath!? That's metal! Also metal is (at the time of writing this) you have 22 subs and this vid has 30 thumbs up, 1k+ views and over 120 comments... I think this video could have benefitted from some examples of the contradictions you're referencing. I know this is an opinion piece, but you've just asserted a bunch of claims without any examples or evidence... might be worth trying that in a future video. Good luck with the channel :)
Thanks brother! Not as cold as it looks since I have a heater on, but because I’m in a canopy-turned-studio the moisture content still causes this to happen. As mentioned in other replies, my point was building off what I THOUGHT to be a well accepted claim - even among Christian scholars - that there are many - possibly apparent - but nonetheless contradictory messages throughout. I made the joke about Ned Flanders from 20 years ago for example! I also talked about cold reading and horoscopes and referenced James Randi’s work. So yeah I am casually referencing throughout, but apart from that, I think your feedback is accurate and well received 🙏 as I keep doing this I’ll (hopefully) get better at prepping those little things that will matter to people. Thanks for watching!
OR it was poorly edited...it is not on purpose...adding contradictions in all of the accounts of how Jesus died resurrected (what makes christianity what it is) is a massive oversight...people just fall into the cult because they don't read the book and think critically at the same time...
For a religion that produced great works of art with every detail and complex feature lovingly toiled over, it is simply unreasonable to think they weren’t like this with the original holy text as well. Point is, at a certain point at least, people looked at the book and said “yeah this is good enough; I like this” but, you know, the ideas themselves lacked enough modern understanding to be fully thought out. Maybe that could be called poor editing though haha, I hope you see what I mean though that it’s not quite as sloppy as first appears.
The main difference between Christianity and the others is that here in the west Christianity has real political power, so it’s more than just stories here or there. That being said, the same is true of Islam and Hinduism for their relevant regions. I myself was raised in a very small religion, Baha’i, so even though I was raised very strongly religious I am an outsider to most world religions. As I’ve gotten older and into politics and philosophy I cannot seem to stay away from learning about these mythologies that still capture so many minds into the present day. So in short yes I’m happy to talk more about religion than just this one thought. :)
That’s not Bahai lol. Actually I think there is what is meant to be a snarky comment from the founder about having many wives being permissible if you could actually treat them completely equally, but this is later clarified as being impossible, and hence no you can’t. So maybe that’s what you read about. Definitely allowed in Islam.
My brother, Baha’i was founded in 1844. I grew up around many Iranians because there Baha’is are persecuted and they often have to flee as refugees. Please don’t spread misinformation. It’s a very unfortunate human rights issue. Edit - I realize perhaps you meant the “issue in Iran” was this persecution, so I want to give you the benefit of the doubt there. Again, I’m happy to go into it on video in more depth and you can respond to all that as well if you wish.
You can speculate all day long and of course human invention is at play, but until you actually study the Bible yourself and seek God you won’t get a serious take. It would make perfect sense that tons of different religious beliefs would come about if God were real and intervened in history. I think it’s irresponsible to write it off like you did here.
I agree but also keep in mind you don’t study books on ghosts cause you don’t think they are real, you don’t need to study them to deny their existence so I don’t think atheists can be blamed for not reading it if they truly don’t believe in god cause at the end of the day it’s all about faith
@@SylasMoon studying ghosts though would be kind of pointless if they're so infrequent that they're in the realm of myth. You can go your whole life without caring or meeting one. Going your whole life without interest in God, the literal creator of the universe, who knows how it works, what's important and has communicated it to us... is an indictment in it of itself.
Believe me I have spent untold hours in my life invested in studying and talking about religion lol, to a fault. I’ve definitely moved on but I still find the topic fascinating for how it ropes in even modern people to various mythologies.
@@JustinsThoughts Fair point about ghosts, except there’s a big difference between the two. Ghost stories don’t claim to define the origin of life, the purpose of humanity, or what happens after death. The Bible does. If the Bible is true, it has massive implications for everyone, regardless of belief. Its claim is that everyone is in danger of judgment. Dismissing it without investigation is like rejecting a cure for a disease without checking if you actually have it. Not to mention ghost stories don’t claim to be the literal Word of God. And yeah, faith plays a role, but biblical faith isn’t blind. It’s trusting in something based on evidence, experience, and reason. If you dig into the Bible, you’ll find it isn’t just a book of random beliefs, it’s filled with historical claims, fulfilled prophecies, and a consistent message that invites scrutiny. You might not believe in God now, but wouldn’t it at least be worth finding out if there’s a chance it’s true? You’re betting a lot on the assumption that it’s not.
@@JustinsThoughts Jeff Fair point about ghosts-except there’s a big difference between the two. Ghost stories don’t claim to define the origin of life, the purpose of humanity, or what happens after death. The Bible does. If the Bible is true, it has massive implications for everyone, regardless of belief. Dismissing it without investigation is like rejecting a cure for a disease without checking if you actually have it. And yeah, faith plays a role, but biblical faith isn’t blind. It’s trusting in something based on evidence, experience, and reason. If you dig into the Bible, you’ll find it isn’t just a book of random beliefs-it’s filled with historical claims, fulfilled prophecies, and a consistent message that invites scrutiny. You might not believe in God now, but wouldn’t it at least be worth finding out if there’s a chance it’s true? You’re betting a lot on the assumption that it’s not.
Here is my problem with this idea. The bible says you aren't allowed to change anything. You are not allowed to change the word of god, or you are basically playing god which is a massive sin. Yet everyone does it to fit their own narrative changing the words. It has contradictions because people miss read or make mistakes. Its a book about stories that are changed throughout time to keep people from leaving.
First you have to convince somone that a God is possible. Secondly, convince them that your God is the right God.All major religions contradict the first point, so it’s imposible to believe in a God
God is a logical necessity, unless you can demonstrate how nothing created everything. Most major relgions agree on that point - and even if they didn't, what does that have to do with the truth? There are a lot of different string theories, and they can't all be true - but does that mean all forms of string theory are impossible, because their isn't a consensus yet?
@@xaelath7771 What about god's existence? Is it really that much of a leap to apply the same special pleading you do to justify why god doesn't need a cause to the universe itself. From my understanding, there was never a time when the universe didn't exist, because time began at the big bang. I struggle to see coherence in something causing spacetime to exist. Theist struggle as much with the question as non believers.
@@KyhlTheWeaver If time "began" then it was caused by something which preceeded time - i.e by something eternal. Else time itself would have to be eternal, in which case, it would not have begun. If there was no cause, and spacetime just began on it's own, why doesn't more spacetime continue to "begin"? If the existence of the universe prohibits it, then there are indeed a set of conditions, or causes, that are required for timespace to begin, meaning that it was caused initially. And if it was caused, but there was no space or time available, then the cause must be something omni-present and eternal, since it is not contained by spacetime. It's not special pleading. God is by nature fundamentally different to creation.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
@@felixmeier3298 the issue is, the Bible does have many contradictions - big and small ones. In this comment, for the sake of simplicity, I'm just talking about smaller ones because larger ones would always be argued back and forth with things like context. I'm talking about things like getting names wrong, places, etc (eg. Measurements and getting pi wrong). But that's just what happens when you have a bung of authors coming together, and notice how it doesn't really impact the message too much. The real problem is when Christians start claiming the Bible has zero contradictions at all.
@@felixmeier3298 but there were also events in the Bible that contradict our findings today- perhaps not a direct contradiction within itself, but they couldn't have happened... (eg. When God was unsatisfied with his creations and mass murdered them with a flood- The killing of all animals except a few of each species to repopulate the Earth, which cannot explain the existence of kangaroos, etc.
InspiringPhilosophy has a series called Bible Contradictions Refuted so watch that before only looking at one side and saying christianity is false based on supposed bible contradictions.
All the triggered Christians in the comments thinking this video is about whether the Bible has contradictions in it.. talk about waving a big flag that says “I didn’t understand what was being said in this video.”
Well said and well noticed. This ubiquitousness of the Bible was particularly useful during the time when the common folk couldn't read the Bible so the church could use whatever verse suited them at a given time
Thank you brother. To add, it’s also so long that I don’t think many people can even hold a good single mental image of truly ALL the contents of it at once, even once people could read.
I'm assuming that if "the contradictions in the Bible are a tool for control", you have some examples of how the contradictions help that control?
Because I'm sure nobody goes "ah, yes I learned that James says there were 5 witnesses to the Resurrection, John says they were 10, thus I'll tithe 15% instead of 10% this year".
The contradictions may not be about control, but other changes no doubt were. Easy changes to see are found by looking up these verses in modern translations (not KJV):
- Mathew 23:14, Matthew 17:21, Matthew 18:11.
- Mark 7:16, Mark 9:44, Mark 9:46, Mark 11:26, Mark 15:28.
- Luke 17:36.
- John 5:4.
- Acts 8:37, Acts 15:34, Acts 24:7, Acts 28:29.
- Romans 16:24.
These are only a few from a certain time period. There are many more instances where accidental or intentional changes were made to the text.
The irony of this entire comment section blowing up, is that this book is designed to have people arguing about it. And so we are! It is very effective at that! THAT IS THE POINT OF MY VIDEO by the way. Thank you.
More like iliteracy and ignorance.
Dang didn’t even point to one of these contradictions?
Myself, I'm already very aware of the many contradictions in the Bible so no need to spell them out to me again. But, quick research will render many answers. Aside from research, my first suggestion would be to do a horizontal study of the resurrection story. Read each account, write down each thing that happen in each account then compare the two. In a few minutes you will have discovered quite a few contradictions.
@@TripSmith Tell us, what did you find. Explain the contradiction for us.
This is not a good faith question. It is designed to force the other to provide an ever more unreasonably specific on the spot citations; all so you can then go “aha see you don’t even know what you’re talking about.” This is nonsensical however. Why would I waste time memorizing every single little thing about something I don’t agree with, when I have things that are valuable to me to spend time memorizing. It’s like trying to poke at someone’s claim that “the holocaust was bad” and then being like “well if that’s true name all the specific things they did and why they were so terrible.” There is ample historical record already my friend. I am allowed to build off of the work of others to make further contributions to the conversation. You being stuck on demanding proof of contradictions just shows how little you understood of what the actual claim in this video is. Sorry.
@@TripSmith Hey brosky, you’re the RUclipsr. Could you please make your next video more detailed? It was a nice video though.
I’d love to hear you talk more. I’m an orthodox Christian.
@@JustinsThoughts I have not memorized every verse either. I’m simply pointing out that if you want to make a video saying the holy book of the most popular religion in the world and the foundation of western society is intentionally contradictory, you should at the very least show one of these contradictions.
I’m left to imagine you’re talking about Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John not telling the exact same story? When an investigator arrives on a crime scene the first thing they do is separate witnesses because if they talk they’re all going to “remember” the same details. Independent witnesses will remember different details of the same event.
Merely asserting the Bible is contradictory is pretty weak without giving a single example of a contradiction. Many alledged contradictions are easily explained if you know the Bible well enough - but avoiding any concrete examples deprives me of anything to refute :P So, any one got any examples for me?
The problem arises when the contradiction lead to schisms among millions of faithful, such as the necessity of works for salvation
Why not look it up for yourself? If this video failed to explain contradictions to your satisfaction then use the information super highway to find better videos explaining contradictions in the bible. To be real people in comments suck at communicating there positions most of the time so just look it up bruv. I would recommend mindshifts youtube channel, theres a lot of well thought out content on there waiting for you.
Myself, I'm already very aware of the many contradictions in the Bible so no need to spell them out to me again. But, quick research will render many answers. Aside from research, my first suggestion would be to do a horizontal study of the resurrection story. Read each account, write down each thing that happen in each account then compare the two. In a few minutes you will have discovered quite a few contradictions.
@user-ci4hi2ui2k I think that's something of an oversimplification, Christians were happily reading Paul and James long before any schism relating to justification by faith or by works arose, and when it did, it was not on the basis of Paul vs James, but rather, the Scriptures (Paul + James et al) vs Roman tradition, which had accrued over 1,500 years. Rome certainly tries to use James to support their view of justification today, but that's not what caused the schism.
As for the scriptures, Paul makes it crystal clear that salvation is by faith, not works, so that no man may boast - but also reminds us that that is not an excuse to go on sinning "so grace by abound". Likewise, James teaches us that faith without works is dead, that a person who claims to have faith, but doesn't help those in need when they have the opportunity, does not really have faith.
There is thus no contradiction - good works are the product of living faith, not the cause of salvation. We work because we are saved, not in order to be saved, because no amount of good works is sufficient to pay for our sins.
@user-ci4hi2ui2k I think that's something of an oversimplification: Christians were happily reading Paul and James long before any schism relating to justification by faith or by works arose, and when it did, it was not on the basis of Paul vs James, but rather, the Scriptures (Paul + James et al) vs Roman tradition, which had accrued over 1,500 years. Rome certainly tries to use James to support their view of justification today, but that's not what caused the schism.
As for the scriptures, Paul makes it crystal clear that salvation is by faith, not works, so that no man may boast - but also reminds us that that is not an excuse to go on sinning "so grace by abound". Likewise, James teaches us that faith without works is dead, that a person who claims to have faith, but doesn't help those in need when they have the opportunity, does not really have faith.
There is thus no contradiction - good works are the product of living faith, not the cause of salvation. We work because we are saved, not in order to be saved, because no amount of good works is sufficient to pay for our sins.
I think you have something there. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Thanks for watching!
These are many words, to form not a single argument for your claim
On the contrary, it’s simply that you’ve misidentified my claim, thinking it is about whether there are contradictions in the Bible. This is not my argument. This is indisputable fact among religious scholars who’ve studied it a lot more than me. The claim I’m making is that these aren’t due to the human error or bad editing people often attribute it to, but rather is part of the mechanism that makes it work at all. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature. That’s my claim. Is that not substantiated? Are you saying the Bible is simply sloppy? Probably not.
I grew up Jehovah's Witness. We were told that Bible students in the 1800s were beginning to figure out that the churches had the message wrong, so a lot of guys like Charles Taze Russell, Nelson Barbour, Jonas Wendell and other Adventists began working out new theologies, particularly with the End Times a large focus. They began to argue against the Trinity, the immortality of the soul, what hell is, and made some pretty good progress. JWs are careful to say it was direct inspiration by God but they do say by 1919 Jesus had chosen them specifically after inspecting all the churches to provide doctrinal leadership over his people. If you look at early Watchtower literature from the 1910s to the 1950s they were quite scathing, especially criticizing the Catholic Church, for getting the whole Bible wrong. It's a fascinating insight into how the Bible can be made to say anything you want it to say. Dan McClellan would agree with you, that the Bible has no inherent meaning. We ascribe meaning to it based on what we want it to say. In the case of JWs, initially they were really sincere in trying to figure it out and what it meant for man's destiny. That all changed about 100 years ago when their organization became the main focus, and still is today. I will say when I grew up in the 70s and 80s most JWs would be very happy to have a discussion about the Bible. These days, sadly, they will mostly play a video for you with happy trees and smiling faces then point you to the website. The old days of Watchtower pretending to be scholarly in their approach is gone.
Wow, you’re an excellent writer. Thank you for the insight there. I may talk about it in a video but I reckon as more people have left the church there has been a “brain drain” of more moderating voices. Just a hypothesis though.
The thing is, its more than a book, its the inspired word of god. Which makes the obvious contradictions more puzzling.
Did the people who assembled the writings just assume that "normal" people would never learn to read?
God wants people to be confused and divided (or he doesn’t exist thank god). Source from the Bible itself:
10 Then the disciples came up and asked Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”
11 He answered them, “Because the secrets of the kingdom of heaven have been given for you to know, but it has not been given to them. 12 For whoever has, more will be given to him, and he will have more than enough. But whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 For this reason I speak to them in parables, because looking they do not see, and hearing they do not listen or understand. (Matthew 13:10-13, HCSB)
“It’s out of context it’s out of context” yeah bro, no, this is the context for all the other verses lol
Anyway, it’s just another thought.. hope you have a good day 🫶
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Congrats. You got more traction. Make sure to mention. Judges chapter 18 and 19. Deuteronomy 28 specifically verse 53. Numbers 5:11-31. Genesis 6:6.
@@Bunlover117 had a feeling being more controversial would help lol - thanks for adding some references 👌 highly recommend @mindshift-brandon for really getting into the weeds.
I’m on your side bro. Christian’s never preach on the verses I sent
All good bro. I figured from how you wrote your message, just saying you might also enjoy Brandon’s videos. Before them I had a much more laissez-faire attitude to Christianity, but yeah turns out there’s a lot more problematic stuff in the Bible than modern Christians would like to believe.
This scriptures call you to repentance and that God is holy and righteous and just and He will punish sin.
The bible is the word of God and you will bow the knee and you will confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father for all eternity. Only question is how? Christ your king and redeemer or as your Lord and judge?
This is some sick slam poetry, you putting this to a beat?
My only question is, how many Fedoras do you have , and why arent you wearing any ?
What is this 2014? I’m not the amazing atheist lol. Still a funny comment 😂
@@JustinsThoughts I admit, it was a coment made in anoyance , but ultimatly it was not to provoke anger ; Im glad you took it as a joke . Keep searching and knocking , you do not know where or when the answer will come.
Ad hominem, isn't it?
the definition of lol
A bit of a satirical response, on why the bible contains so many contradictions:
It's a test by the REAL god. It wants to test people whether they can think for themselves, or whether they'd believe obvious fabrications. And the ones who dispel the illusion are the worthy ones.
It flips religion on its head :D From blind faith to rational thinking.
Haha, the rabbit hole always goes infinitely deep..
The real test was that the ancient Greeks got it right and there God are just messing with all of us for a laugh
Haha perfect
For the very many Christians in the comments, you will all likely go to great lengths to affirm your beliefs. Mark, Mathew, Luke, and John, are not all consistent, and this is the belief of the majority of Bible scholars. The discussion typically is about why they differ, and not that they are all actually consistent.
yes this is literally doublethink
Very spicy
Bro, you need to turn up the heat a little - we can see your breath!
Pretty good commentary, though.
Haha, my studio is an enclosed canopy. Propane heat’s on, but my breath still does that if the moisture in the air is high enough. Thanks bro 🤘
Bro, how cold was it in your room? Am I imagining it, or can I see your breath!? That's metal!
Also metal is (at the time of writing this) you have 22 subs and this vid has 30 thumbs up, 1k+ views and over 120 comments...
I think this video could have benefitted from some examples of the contradictions you're referencing. I know this is an opinion piece, but you've just asserted a bunch of claims without any examples or evidence... might be worth trying that in a future video.
Good luck with the channel :)
Thanks brother! Not as cold as it looks since I have a heater on, but because I’m in a canopy-turned-studio the moisture content still causes this to happen.
As mentioned in other replies, my point was building off what I THOUGHT to be a well accepted claim - even among Christian scholars - that there are many - possibly apparent - but nonetheless contradictory messages throughout. I made the joke about Ned Flanders from 20 years ago for example!
I also talked about cold reading and horoscopes and referenced James Randi’s work.
So yeah I am casually referencing throughout, but apart from that, I think your feedback is accurate and well received 🙏 as I keep doing this I’ll (hopefully) get better at prepping those little things that will matter to people.
Thanks for watching!
OR it was poorly edited...it is not on purpose...adding contradictions in all of the accounts of how Jesus died resurrected (what makes christianity what it is) is a massive oversight...people just fall into the cult because they don't read the book and think critically at the same time...
For a religion that produced great works of art with every detail and complex feature lovingly toiled over, it is simply unreasonable to think they weren’t like this with the original holy text as well. Point is, at a certain point at least, people looked at the book and said “yeah this is good enough; I like this” but, you know, the ideas themselves lacked enough modern understanding to be fully thought out. Maybe that could be called poor editing though haha, I hope you see what I mean though that it’s not quite as sloppy as first appears.
Anti spiral
I’ve been replying in one way or another to all the comments here, and I must confess. I simply don’t know what this one means haha
Are u going to discuss hindus, buddhis, islam too? Bible is not written by God if you dispute it but has stories .
The main difference between Christianity and the others is that here in the west Christianity has real political power, so it’s more than just stories here or there. That being said, the same is true of Islam and Hinduism for their relevant regions. I myself was raised in a very small religion, Baha’i, so even though I was raised very strongly religious I am an outsider to most world religions. As I’ve gotten older and into politics and philosophy I cannot seem to stay away from learning about these mythologies that still capture so many minds into the present day. So in short yes I’m happy to talk more about religion than just this one thought. :)
@ i read about bahai, you are allowed to having 2 wives, God of bahai created two eves?
That’s not Bahai lol. Actually I think there is what is meant to be a snarky comment from the founder about having many wives being permissible if you could actually treat them completely equally, but this is later clarified as being impossible, and hence no you can’t. So maybe that’s what you read about. Definitely allowed in Islam.
@ it is bahai. Bahai religion was founded 1700 something and the founder experienced exile , is a big issue in iran. Google it i am a big fat lie
My brother, Baha’i was founded in 1844. I grew up around many Iranians because there Baha’is are persecuted and they often have to flee as refugees. Please don’t spread misinformation. It’s a very unfortunate human rights issue.
Edit - I realize perhaps you meant the “issue in Iran” was this persecution, so I want to give you the benefit of the doubt there. Again, I’m happy to go into it on video in more depth and you can respond to all that as well if you wish.
You can speculate all day long and of course human invention is at play, but until you actually study the Bible yourself and seek God you won’t get a serious take. It would make perfect sense that tons of different religious beliefs would come about if God were real and intervened in history. I think it’s irresponsible to write it off like you did here.
I agree but also keep in mind you don’t study books on ghosts cause you don’t think they are real, you don’t need to study them to deny their existence so I don’t think atheists can be blamed for not reading it if they truly don’t believe in god cause at the end of the day it’s all about faith
@@SylasMoon studying ghosts though would be kind of pointless if they're so infrequent that they're in the realm of myth. You can go your whole life without caring or meeting one. Going your whole life without interest in God, the literal creator of the universe, who knows how it works, what's important and has communicated it to us... is an indictment in it of itself.
Believe me I have spent untold hours in my life invested in studying and talking about religion lol, to a fault. I’ve definitely moved on but I still find the topic fascinating for how it ropes in even modern people to various mythologies.
@@JustinsThoughts Fair point about ghosts, except there’s a big difference between the two. Ghost stories don’t claim to define the origin of life, the purpose of humanity, or what happens after death. The Bible does. If the Bible is true, it has massive implications for everyone, regardless of belief. Its claim is that everyone is in danger of judgment. Dismissing it without investigation is like rejecting a cure for a disease without checking if you actually have it. Not to mention ghost stories don’t claim to be the literal Word of God.
And yeah, faith plays a role, but biblical faith isn’t blind. It’s trusting in something based on evidence, experience, and reason. If you dig into the Bible, you’ll find it isn’t just a book of random beliefs, it’s filled with historical claims, fulfilled prophecies, and a consistent message that invites scrutiny.
You might not believe in God now, but wouldn’t it at least be worth finding out if there’s a chance it’s true? You’re betting a lot on the assumption that it’s not.
@@JustinsThoughts Jeff
Fair point about ghosts-except there’s a big difference between the two. Ghost stories don’t claim to define the origin of life, the purpose of humanity, or what happens after death. The Bible does. If the Bible is true, it has massive implications for everyone, regardless of belief. Dismissing it without investigation is like rejecting a cure for a disease without checking if you actually have it.
And yeah, faith plays a role, but biblical faith isn’t blind. It’s trusting in something based on evidence, experience, and reason. If you dig into the Bible, you’ll find it isn’t just a book of random beliefs-it’s filled with historical claims, fulfilled prophecies, and a consistent message that invites scrutiny.
You might not believe in God now, but wouldn’t it at least be worth finding out if there’s a chance it’s true? You’re betting a lot on the assumption that it’s not.
Here is my problem with this idea. The bible says you aren't allowed to change anything. You are not allowed to change the word of god, or you are basically playing god which is a massive sin. Yet everyone does it to fit their own narrative changing the words. It has contradictions because people miss read or make mistakes. Its a book about stories that are changed throughout time to keep people from leaving.
Dude.. you’re so very close to getting it. I genuinely hope you get there.
First you have to convince somone that a God is possible. Secondly, convince them that your God is the right God.All major religions contradict the first point, so it’s imposible to believe in a God
God is a logical necessity, unless you can demonstrate how nothing created everything. Most major relgions agree on that point - and even if they didn't, what does that have to do with the truth? There are a lot of different string theories, and they can't all be true - but does that mean all forms of string theory are impossible, because their isn't a consensus yet?
@@xaelath7771 What about god's existence? Is it really that much of a leap to apply the same special pleading you do to justify why god doesn't need a cause to the universe itself. From my understanding, there was never a time when the universe didn't exist, because time began at the big bang. I struggle to see coherence in something causing spacetime to exist. Theist struggle as much with the question as non believers.
@@xaelath7771 so Zeus is a logical necessity?
@@KyhlTheWeaver Gods a made up reason for somthing no one knows about.
@@KyhlTheWeaver If time "began" then it was caused by something which preceeded time - i.e by something eternal. Else time itself would have to be eternal, in which case, it would not have begun.
If there was no cause, and spacetime just began on it's own, why doesn't more spacetime continue to "begin"? If the existence of the universe prohibits it, then there are indeed a set of conditions, or causes, that are required for timespace to begin, meaning that it was caused initially. And if it was caused, but there was no space or time available, then the cause must be something omni-present and eternal, since it is not contained by spacetime.
It's not special pleading. God is by nature fundamentally different to creation.
The bible does not have contradictions. Romans 1:20-22
Yes it does...
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
@ronnie_does_art show us then
@@felixmeier3298 the issue is, the Bible does have many contradictions - big and small ones. In this comment, for the sake of simplicity, I'm just talking about smaller ones because larger ones would always be argued back and forth with things like context. I'm talking about things like getting names wrong, places, etc (eg. Measurements and getting pi wrong). But that's just what happens when you have a bung of authors coming together, and notice how it doesn't really impact the message too much. The real problem is when Christians start claiming the Bible has zero contradictions at all.
@@felixmeier3298 but there were also events in the Bible that contradict our findings today- perhaps not a direct contradiction within itself, but they couldn't have happened... (eg. When God was unsatisfied with his creations and mass murdered them with a flood- The killing of all animals except a few of each species to repopulate the Earth, which cannot explain the existence of kangaroos, etc.
Bro fix ur hair
In what way?