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On religion yes but in general no - it just gets skewed cause folks mostly only comment on the controversial videos. A shame, I thought this channel might actually do something positive for people. Sad.

No one could survive that game ☠️

Lol, well apart from just having fewer views still, I have an additional hypothesis: nothing to easily dunk on here - the arguments are airtight, and cognitive dissonance keeps the christian believer from stomaching the whole thing.

I mean you know that this is the very idea that I was originally refuting ... right? I obviously think there's more to it than that. To think the incoherence of the bible as a singular story is just humans being dumb and not to realize that is a huge part of why it's been such a good book (no pun intended) for mass control is such a weird oversimplification to be so ride or die about. Don't let yourself be just as bad as the reactionary christians with their sloppy arguments, precision in understanding is important. It's okay to have nuance. It's okay to watch the damn video before commenting as I literally say all this here already.

Borders on the pathetic to 1) make a comment video on your own video 2) expect swarms of clicks when you have 84 views in total. 3) pin and sticker your own comment... Make sure it stays on top of all 3 total comments. 😂😂

1) this is a follow up video to one that DID get swarmed with comments, so 2) it was not unreasonable to expect interaction nor low views so expected as to be unworthy of pointing out. 3) this still does not refute a single point in the video so you know what I’m just gonna keep calling it a win - and if that sort of self confidence is “pathetic” to you, that’s on you not me. I don’t even really feel all that feisty, just been a lot of hate comments to react to and I’m trying to put that to bed lol. Hope you have a merry christmas or whatever you do. 🤙

I swear sometimes people seem to just think “huh what’s going on why’s he slowing down?” until I signal them that that’s what I’m doing. I think it varies by state too I had to relearn some habits between California and Oregon. California the slow down thing works cause ppl are already aggressive drivers on the roads they know.

Maybe sometimes but I’m trying to get to my place too, can’t just let bullies push you around and double your drive time for no reason. If I’m going a reasonable speed just wait until a dashed lane or two lane, and until then I’m gonna flip my mirrors up and keep a lookout for an opportunity for ya. If someone’s too chicken then I use this trick and they get the message. Everybody wins.

@@JustinsThoughts Every time I have stopped, they have quickly roared around me and I've gone about my travels in peace. Pretty much no delay.

yeah I'm just gonna go ahead and say that's a different area thing haha. folks around here still need help I guess.

@@JustinsThoughts I've been driving since 1979 and it was just as bad back then, the only difference is there's more traffic these days. What I do especially when going to and from work is wait until there's a right turn lane and just pull over. I travel a state highway to and from work and there's plenty of places to pull over safely. As soon as the perp has passed me, I pull out and continue on my way. In a lot of cases, once I let them by, they stop speeding. I don't know the logic behind that, but...... I'm counting the days when I retire and I quit driving. I don't enjoy it anymore, probably for the last 10 years. I will grocery shop online and then have a family member pick up for me. I will mostly stay at home and enjoy myself taking walks/hikes and reading books.

Since I drive an older car I think a lot of it has to be pride. “I can’t be caught behind this older model van.” I read once that road rage happens in part because we mentally still try to interpret “body language” but since the steel shape never changes, it looks to us like cars are indifferent, arrogant, assholes. This is why I find adding some extra communication into the mix is nice. Wish you well with your retirement goals!!

God wants people to be confused and divided (or he doesn’t exist thank god). Source from the Bible itself: 10 Then the disciples came up and asked Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered them, “Because the secrets of the kingdom of heaven have been given for you to know, but it has not been given to them. 12 For whoever has, more will be given to him, and he will have more than enough. But whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 For this reason I speak to them in parables, because looking they do not see, and hearing they do not listen or understand. (Matthew 13:10-13, HCSB) “It’s out of context it’s out of context” yeah bro, no, this is the context for all the other verses lol Anyway, it’s just another thought.. hope you have a good day 🫶

Totally agree. This one may be less satisfying, but it's several parts (as I have it handled now at least). First is a skill you yourself can add. I realized that just because I can't see the road, doesn't mean the driver with the high beams can't or that they can't see me. So basically if I use the brightness as a guiding compass for where to go, it can actually work to keep me going straight. You won't turn away from the light, and if you do happen to go too far towards it they will quickly turn their brights off and slow down haha. Another bonus self check is to only turn your brights off once you both can see each other. Some people won't if they think you didn't or just forgot about it. Seeing the change is a reminder to do it and that you're expecting it in return. If they're behind you, well, partially that's covered in this video, but until then, you can flip up your mirror or turn them in so they're not blasting you. Now so far we've covered what YOU can do to either be safe or communicate clearly, but this will still leave a percentage of people who just don't care. It can be a grey area sometimes when I'm not sure if they have their brights on or if their lights are just way too bright. But if I know for sure it's the brights still on, I just re-blast the motherfucker as I get closer. Fuck you, we both need to see. Let me know if you come up with anything to add 🤣

Thanks brother! Not as cold as it looks since I have a heater on, but because I’m in a canopy-turned-studio the moisture content still causes this to happen. As mentioned in other replies, my point was building off what I THOUGHT to be a well accepted claim - even among Christian scholars - that there are many - possibly apparent - but nonetheless contradictory messages throughout. I made the joke about Ned Flanders from 20 years ago for example! I also talked about cold reading and horoscopes and referenced James Randi’s work. So yeah I am casually referencing throughout, but apart from that, I think your feedback is accurate and well received 🙏 as I keep doing this I’ll (hopefully) get better at prepping those little things that will matter to people. Thanks for watching!

Wow, you’re an excellent writer. Thank you for the insight there. I may talk about it in a video but I reckon as more people have left the church there has been a “brain drain” of more moderating voices. Just a hypothesis though.

Haha, my studio is an enclosed canopy. Propane heat’s on, but my breath still does that if the moisture in the air is high enough. Thanks bro 🤘

In what way?

Lots of annoyances lol. Let me know if you find solutions to these other problems.

Thank you brother. To add, it’s also so long that I don’t think many people can even hold a good single mental image of truly ALL the contents of it at once, even once people could read.

On the contrary, it’s simply that you’ve misidentified my claim, thinking it is about whether there are contradictions in the Bible. This is not my argument. This is indisputable fact among religious scholars who’ve studied it a lot more than me. The claim I’m making is that these aren’t due to the human error or bad editing people often attribute it to, but rather is part of the mechanism that makes it work at all. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature. That’s my claim. Is that not substantiated? Are you saying the Bible is simply sloppy? Probably not.

All the triggered Christians in the comments thinking this video is about whether the Bible has contradictions in it.. talk about waving a big flag that says “I didn’t understand what was being said in this video.”

Thanks for watching!

Myself, I'm already very aware of the many contradictions in the Bible so no need to spell them out to me again. But, quick research will render many answers. Aside from research, my first suggestion would be to do a horizontal study of the resurrection story. Read each account, write down each thing that happen in each account then compare the two. In a few minutes you will have discovered quite a few contradictions.

​@@TripSmith Tell us, what did you find. Explain the contradiction for us.

This is not a good faith question. It is designed to force the other to provide an ever more unreasonably specific on the spot citations; all so you can then go “aha see you don’t even know what you’re talking about.” This is nonsensical however. Why would I waste time memorizing every single little thing about something I don’t agree with, when I have things that are valuable to me to spend time memorizing. It’s like trying to poke at someone’s claim that “the holocaust was bad” and then being like “well if that’s true name all the specific things they did and why they were so terrible.” There is ample historical record already my friend. I am allowed to build off of the work of others to make further contributions to the conversation. You being stuck on demanding proof of contradictions just shows how little you understood of what the actual claim in this video is. Sorry.

@@TripSmith Hey brosky, you’re the RUclipsr. Could you please make your next video more detailed? It was a nice video though. I’d love to hear you talk more. I’m an orthodox Christian.

@@JustinsThoughts I have not memorized every verse either. I’m simply pointing out that if you want to make a video saying the holy book of the most popular religion in the world and the foundation of western society is intentionally contradictory, you should at the very least show one of these contradictions. I’m left to imagine you’re talking about Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John not telling the exact same story? When an investigator arrives on a crime scene the first thing they do is separate witnesses because if they talk they’re all going to “remember” the same details. Independent witnesses will remember different details of the same event.

The contradictions may not be about control, but other changes no doubt were. Easy changes to see are found by looking up these verses in modern translations (not KJV): - Mathew 23:14, Matthew 17:21, Matthew 18:11. - Mark 7:16, Mark 9:44, Mark 9:46, Mark 11:26, Mark 15:28. - Luke 17:36. - John 5:4. - Acts 8:37, Acts 15:34, Acts 24:7, Acts 28:29. - Romans 16:24. These are only a few from a certain time period. There are many more instances where accidental or intentional changes were made to the text.

The irony of this entire comment section blowing up, is that this book is designed to have people arguing about it. And so we are! It is very effective at that! THAT IS THE POINT OF MY VIDEO by the way. Thank you.

More like iliteracy and ignorance.

Okay, you’re very close to getting what I’m saying, and, I’m with you. We know the Bible was added to across centuries, a lot of the New Testament is Paul’s work to make sense of it all in context. I think perhaps you are still holding on to some of the paradigm of “the Bible is a singular text” when it’s very clearly not. There’s also lost books like the Dead Sea scrolls and the gnostic gospels. When I say the Bible was compiled, I’m referring to this process of use and acceptance or rejection and changes. That process was shaped by many people over history, with the selective pressure that the book needs to “work” to build actual political and economic power. See what I mean? All pseudoscience and supernatural thinking converges towards contradictory nonsense. But yeah, at certain points the book was more or less set in stone - apart from translations to other languages and different editions etc - but it remains successful because a) a lot of blood was shed in the past and b) it’s a book that can mean anything so it remains a useful tool across time and culture. So that’s not post hoc rationalization, it’s an explanation of the selective pressures that made the Bible what it is. Hopefully this is clear?

The problem arises when the contradiction lead to schisms among millions of faithful, such as the necessity of works for salvation

Why not look it up for yourself? If this video failed to explain contradictions to your satisfaction then use the information super highway to find better videos explaining contradictions in the bible. To be real people in comments suck at communicating there positions most of the time so just look it up bruv. I would recommend mindshifts youtube channel, theres a lot of well thought out content on there waiting for you.

Myself, I'm already very aware of the many contradictions in the Bible so no need to spell them out to me again. But, quick research will render many answers. Aside from research, my first suggestion would be to do a horizontal study of the resurrection story. Read each account, write down each thing that happen in each account then compare the two. In a few minutes you will have discovered quite a few contradictions.

​@user-ci4hi2ui2k I think that's something of an oversimplification, Christians were happily reading Paul and James long before any schism relating to justification by faith or by works arose, and when it did, it was not on the basis of Paul vs James, but rather, the Scriptures (Paul + James et al) vs Roman tradition, which had accrued over 1,500 years. Rome certainly tries to use James to support their view of justification today, but that's not what caused the schism. As for the scriptures, Paul makes it crystal clear that salvation is by faith, not works, so that no man may boast - but also reminds us that that is not an excuse to go on sinning "so grace by abound". Likewise, James teaches us that faith without works is dead, that a person who claims to have faith, but doesn't help those in need when they have the opportunity, does not really have faith. There is thus no contradiction - good works are the product of living faith, not the cause of salvation. We work because we are saved, not in order to be saved, because no amount of good works is sufficient to pay for our sins.

@user-ci4hi2ui2k ​ I think that's something of an oversimplification: Christians were happily reading Paul and James long before any schism relating to justification by faith or by works arose, and when it did, it was not on the basis of Paul vs James, but rather, the Scriptures (Paul + James et al) vs Roman tradition, which had accrued over 1,500 years. Rome certainly tries to use James to support their view of justification today, but that's not what caused the schism. As for the scriptures, Paul makes it crystal clear that salvation is by faith, not works, so that no man may boast - but also reminds us that that is not an excuse to go on sinning "so grace by abound". Likewise, James teaches us that faith without works is dead, that a person who claims to have faith, but doesn't help those in need when they have the opportunity, does not really have faith. There is thus no contradiction - good works are the product of living faith, not the cause of salvation. We work because we are saved, not in order to be saved, because no amount of good works is sufficient to pay for our sins.

God is a logical necessity, unless you can demonstrate how nothing created everything. Most major relgions agree on that point - and even if they didn't, what does that have to do with the truth? There are a lot of different string theories, and they can't all be true - but does that mean all forms of string theory are impossible, because their isn't a consensus yet?

@@xaelath7771 What about god's existence? Is it really that much of a leap to apply the same special pleading you do to justify why god doesn't need a cause to the universe itself. From my understanding, there was never a time when the universe didn't exist, because time began at the big bang. I struggle to see coherence in something causing spacetime to exist. Theist struggle as much with the question as non believers.

@@xaelath7771 so Zeus is a logical necessity?

@@KyhlTheWeaver Gods a made up reason for somthing no one knows about.

​@@KyhlTheWeaver If time "began" then it was caused by something which preceeded time - i.e by something eternal. Else time itself would have to be eternal, in which case, it would not have begun. If there was no cause, and spacetime just began on it's own, why doesn't more spacetime continue to "begin"? If the existence of the universe prohibits it, then there are indeed a set of conditions, or causes, that are required for timespace to begin, meaning that it was caused initially. And if it was caused, but there was no space or time available, then the cause must be something omni-present and eternal, since it is not contained by spacetime. It's not special pleading. God is by nature fundamentally different to creation.

For a religion that produced great works of art with every detail and complex feature lovingly toiled over, it is simply unreasonable to think they weren’t like this with the original holy text as well. Point is, at a certain point at least, people looked at the book and said “yeah this is good enough; I like this” but, you know, the ideas themselves lacked enough modern understanding to be fully thought out. Maybe that could be called poor editing though haha, I hope you see what I mean though that it’s not quite as sloppy as first appears.

I agree but also keep in mind you don’t study books on ghosts cause you don’t think they are real, you don’t need to study them to deny their existence so I don’t think atheists can be blamed for not reading it if they truly don’t believe in god cause at the end of the day it’s all about faith

@@SylasMoon studying ghosts though would be kind of pointless if they're so infrequent that they're in the realm of myth. You can go your whole life without caring or meeting one. Going your whole life without interest in God, the literal creator of the universe, who knows how it works, what's important and has communicated it to us... is an indictment in it of itself.

Believe me I have spent untold hours in my life invested in studying and talking about religion lol, to a fault. I’ve definitely moved on but I still find the topic fascinating for how it ropes in even modern people to various mythologies.

@@JustinsThoughts Fair point about ghosts, except there’s a big difference between the two. Ghost stories don’t claim to define the origin of life, the purpose of humanity, or what happens after death. The Bible does. If the Bible is true, it has massive implications for everyone, regardless of belief. Its claim is that everyone is in danger of judgment. Dismissing it without investigation is like rejecting a cure for a disease without checking if you actually have it. Not to mention ghost stories don’t claim to be the literal Word of God. And yeah, faith plays a role, but biblical faith isn’t blind. It’s trusting in something based on evidence, experience, and reason. If you dig into the Bible, you’ll find it isn’t just a book of random beliefs, it’s filled with historical claims, fulfilled prophecies, and a consistent message that invites scrutiny. You might not believe in God now, but wouldn’t it at least be worth finding out if there’s a chance it’s true? You’re betting a lot on the assumption that it’s not.

@@JustinsThoughts Jeff Fair point about ghosts-except there’s a big difference between the two. Ghost stories don’t claim to define the origin of life, the purpose of humanity, or what happens after death. The Bible does. If the Bible is true, it has massive implications for everyone, regardless of belief. Dismissing it without investigation is like rejecting a cure for a disease without checking if you actually have it. And yeah, faith plays a role, but biblical faith isn’t blind. It’s trusting in something based on evidence, experience, and reason. If you dig into the Bible, you’ll find it isn’t just a book of random beliefs-it’s filled with historical claims, fulfilled prophecies, and a consistent message that invites scrutiny. You might not believe in God now, but wouldn’t it at least be worth finding out if there’s a chance it’s true? You’re betting a lot on the assumption that it’s not.

What is this 2014? I’m not the amazing atheist lol. Still a funny comment 😂

@@JustinsThoughts I admit, it was a coment made in anoyance , but ultimatly it was not to provoke anger ; Im glad you took it as a joke . Keep searching and knocking , you do not know where or when the answer will come.

Ad hominem, isn't it?

the definition of lol

I’ve been replying in one way or another to all the comments here, and I must confess. I simply don’t know what this one means haha

Dude.. you’re so very close to getting it. I genuinely hope you get there.

Yes it does...

For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

@ronnie_does_art show us then

@@felixmeier3298 the issue is, the Bible does have many contradictions - big and small ones. In this comment, for the sake of simplicity, I'm just talking about smaller ones because larger ones would always be argued back and forth with things like context. I'm talking about things like getting names wrong, places, etc (eg. Measurements and getting pi wrong). But that's just what happens when you have a bung of authors coming together, and notice how it doesn't really impact the message too much. The real problem is when Christians start claiming the Bible has zero contradictions at all.

@@felixmeier3298 but there were also events in the Bible that contradict our findings today- perhaps not a direct contradiction within itself, but they couldn't have happened... (eg. When God was unsatisfied with his creations and mass murdered them with a flood- The killing of all animals except a few of each species to repopulate the Earth, which cannot explain the existence of kangaroos, etc.

Haha, the rabbit hole always goes infinitely deep..

The real test was that the ancient Greeks got it right and there God are just messing with all of us for a laugh

Haha perfect

This is amazing thank you so much for contributing to the growth of this channel ❤️

The main difference between Christianity and the others is that here in the west Christianity has real political power, so it’s more than just stories here or there. That being said, the same is true of Islam and Hinduism for their relevant regions. I myself was raised in a very small religion, Baha’i, so even though I was raised very strongly religious I am an outsider to most world religions. As I’ve gotten older and into politics and philosophy I cannot seem to stay away from learning about these mythologies that still capture so many minds into the present day. So in short yes I’m happy to talk more about religion than just this one thought. :)

@ i read about bahai, you are allowed to having 2 wives, God of bahai created two eves?

That’s not Bahai lol. Actually I think there is what is meant to be a snarky comment from the founder about having many wives being permissible if you could actually treat them completely equally, but this is later clarified as being impossible, and hence no you can’t. So maybe that’s what you read about. Definitely allowed in Islam.

@ it is bahai. Bahai religion was founded 1700 something and the founder experienced exile , is a big issue in iran. Google it i am a big fat lie

My brother, Baha’i was founded in 1844. I grew up around many Iranians because there Baha’is are persecuted and they often have to flee as refugees. Please don’t spread misinformation. It’s a very unfortunate human rights issue. Edit - I realize perhaps you meant the “issue in Iran” was this persecution, so I want to give you the benefit of the doubt there. Again, I’m happy to go into it on video in more depth and you can respond to all that as well if you wish.

I mean it’s the same with politics, economics, science, etc. People are busy and there’s a lot of info out there. So I am compassionate to that. What I notice in my own friends - most of whom are atheists but then some will surprise me by being hardcore believers still - is that the difference seems to be the amount of personal trauma from religion. If you grew up in it and never felt the repercussions directly, what motivation would you have to research and deconstruct and figure out how to be a good person without god. It might not be rational upon scrutiny but it is reasonable from a human perspective. Anyway, just my two cents.

@@Bunlover117 had a feeling being more controversial would help lol - thanks for adding some references 👌 highly recommend @mindshift-brandon for really getting into the weeds.

I’m on your side bro. Christian’s never preach on the verses I sent

All good bro. I figured from how you wrote your message, just saying you might also enjoy Brandon’s videos. Before them I had a much more laissez-faire attitude to Christianity, but yeah turns out there’s a lot more problematic stuff in the Bible than modern Christians would like to believe.

This scriptures call you to repentance and that God is holy and righteous and just and He will punish sin. The bible is the word of God and you will bow the knee and you will confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father for all eternity. Only question is how? Christ your king and redeemer or as your Lord and judge?

This is some sick slam poetry, you putting this to a beat?