Some of the Irish freight lines are very interesting, as the Irish government wants to open these up to passenger use - one gypsum line goes from Kingscourt in Co. Cavan, via Navan and onto Drogheda (the Dublin-Belfast line), which was once used to carry passengers from Navan to Dublin’s Croke Park when a GAA (Gaelic Football) All Ireland final was being played with Meath v Dublin some years ago - there is also a lot of talk about reopening the Mullingar (Dublin Sligo line) to Athlone (Dublin Galway/Westport/Ballina line) which is currently used for freight by Irish Rail which the Irish government want opened to passenger use
We rented an apartment overlooking the BMW yard in March 2019. We became accustomed to the whine of a class 66 arriving (or sometimes departing) across Canute Road at around 01:30hrs most weekday mornings. Hey, trade is good! Those track-side bushes have grown in five years!. The sheer length of this train gives a good indication of the amount of railway track still extant inside Southampton Docks.
Looking at it from a different angle (joke intended) and meaning of obtuse, perhaps the obtuseness was in the original comment with a lack of clarity about how one counts vehicles on a train. Many passenger trains in the days of the BR Mk1 ran as 12 car sets. I have never seen them described as 13 or 14 vehicle trains when the loco is included. I am sorry if my rhetorical question upsets people…. But they are useful aids to clarifying what is actually being said!
Interesting to see that they are using closed car carrying stock for those. Recently there has been some footage of the Toyota car trains from Toton to France via the tunnel (shot somewhere in the Nottingham area), and they use open sided stock, so you can see which models are on board - export for some (Corrolla), import for the others (Yaris).
In 2000 I remember waiting in my car near this crossing or perhaps traffic lights a bit further east, couple hundred yards or so perhaps, and idly looking around and seeing a rundown hotel to my right and caught the embedded enscription around the wall just under the eaves which said in letters about a foot high each:- "Near this point King Canute attempted to control the tide." (Or words to that effect). I did think, "wow, so it was near here then". I not been near there for ages now, don't know if it still exists.
Irish Rail have a similar crossing to this on the Dublin Connolly to Rosslare line (I think it’s Wexford Town) where the train passes through the town at low speed - and one of the lines around Dublin Port has a level crossing similar to this, but it’s only for freight trains and for new rolling stock coming off the ships at North Wall heading for the old CIE works at Inchicore via Liffey Junction, Cabra and the Phoenix Park Tunnel onto the other lines out of Dublin beyond Dublin Hueston
Watching the crew loading the cars on at the factory is an eye opener. They drive on and along the train almost as thought they're on a dual carriageway yet they have minimal clearance either side
Yeah I guess some people jump the lights in car, cycle and foot ahead of the train despite the lights and warning sirens and the driver blowing the horn 🙄
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I was told some years ago that the maximum number of carriages that any freight train is allowed to pull in the UK is 40. And as other viewers have clearly confirmed there are 46 here.
@@neilburns8869 not the case at all, however told you that is totally incorrect. It is purely limited by the total trailing weight the locomotive(s) are pulling and the maximum length of any section/loops the train is going to use/pass through.
Interesting to see that the articulated wagons are in banks of five, with breaks between each bank. Presumably there is some clever way of allowing the Minis to drive through for unloading.
@@davesrailsplanesautos8515 Sorry, I should have been more specific. Long before the blue fully enclosed wagons, we had open ended wagons, most certainly loaded with Land Rover products. You were of course referring to the "blue" train. Nice video by the way.
@@S2RUF Yes, I know. My joke comment was in response to the original post about it being a beer bottle which, if it was true, would have got them both disciplined. Obviously it wasn't a very good joke as I had to explain in but I thought the exclamation mark was enough.
I shocked they didn’t put another power unit in the middle and one at end so it can have help with hills etc, just imagine the problem it would cause if the only power unit of this long train breaks down and it broke down across many points and lines. As there be no way for another unit to attach to it, if blocking all lines and points this train is going on, having an engine in the middle or at the end or both it can help if a fault occurred on the leading engine
To be honest the class 66’s rarely fail so second looks of middle units are not needed (in his case a loco in the middle would be an issue anyway as the cars drive through the whole.e length of the train to load and unload so additional shunting would be needed). Also as for the weight of the train tower don’t really have either very heavy trains or hills that need extra power other than the Lickey Incline and Garston docks trains (only two I can think of)where some freight trains have to be banked.
and, DB has gone bust too after they got rid of their electric locos because the electricity bill was too high and have gone back to diesel that us car owners can no longer buy!
I wonder what the value of these cars is. If each wagon carries six cars at c£25000, that is £6,750000. Are they double-deckers? = £13,500000. Give us this day our daily bread!
Is it any wonder that we are struggling with the economy. Here we have a very long train carrying goods. Whose train? Oh. That would be DB - Deutchebahn the German state railway. Now I do understand that they are carrying good smade by a German company and I have every respect for DB, but why?
@@lolzlolz69 Do you understand where the vast majority of the company's earnings go? And DB employees will include their courier services rather than just railways, so perhaps I do. The thing is that we had been told that the EU (or its predecessors) frowned upon state ownership, yet DB is 100% owned by the German Federal Government. I do not criticise the Germans, it is the British that I am critical of. We followed the ideology of Thatcherism and it became a fundamental part of the run-down of British industry. Here we have a foreign government earning directly from those policies.
That goes thundering past my house near Reading West station. I love it!
Some of the Irish freight lines are very interesting, as the Irish government wants to open these up to passenger use - one gypsum line goes from Kingscourt in Co. Cavan, via Navan and onto Drogheda (the Dublin-Belfast line), which was once used to carry passengers from Navan to Dublin’s Croke Park when a GAA (Gaelic Football) All Ireland final was being played with Meath v Dublin some years ago - there is also a lot of talk about reopening the Mullingar (Dublin Sligo line) to Athlone (Dublin Galway/Westport/Ballina line) which is currently used for freight by Irish Rail which the Irish government want opened to passenger use
This just shows how strong 1 class 66 is and it’s AWESOME
We rented an apartment overlooking the BMW yard in March 2019. We became accustomed to the whine of a class 66 arriving (or sometimes departing) across Canute Road at around 01:30hrs most weekday mornings. Hey, trade is good! Those track-side bushes have grown in five years!. The sheer length of this train gives a good indication of the amount of railway track still extant inside Southampton Docks.
That would be the inbound Jaguar car train from Halewood at that time of morning 😂
That's a looonnnggg Train... Great catch
46 wagons by my reconing ! A long train for the UK 😁
46 lots of car carriages strewth good catch
Since when has 46 been a multiple of 5?
That would have been a bit much for the LSWR’s B4 that used rule the docks!
There are 45. The odd one at the front is the locomotive. ;-)
@@mauricehopper7802 Since when did people need to be obtuse in pointing out slight mistakes?
Looking at it from a different angle (joke intended) and meaning of obtuse, perhaps the obtuseness was in the original comment with a lack of clarity about how one counts vehicles on a train.
Many passenger trains in the days of the BR Mk1 ran as 12 car sets. I have never seen them described as 13 or 14 vehicle trains when the loco is included.
I am sorry if my rhetorical question upsets people…. But they are useful aids to clarifying what is actually being said!
Interesting to see that they are using closed car carrying stock for those. Recently there has been some footage of the Toyota car trains from Toton to France via the tunnel (shot somewhere in the Nottingham area), and they use open sided stock, so you can see which models are on board - export for some (Corrolla), import for the others (Yaris).
excellent catch👍 bit like the water train that goes through Kent
In 2000 I remember waiting in my car near this crossing or perhaps traffic lights a bit further east, couple hundred yards or so perhaps, and idly looking around and seeing a rundown hotel to my right and caught the embedded enscription around the wall just under the eaves which said in letters about a foot high each:-
"Near this point King Canute attempted to control the tide." (Or words to that effect).
I did think, "wow, so it was near here then". I not been near there for ages now, don't know if it still exists.
Irish Rail have a similar crossing to this on the Dublin Connolly to Rosslare line (I think it’s Wexford Town) where the train passes through the town at low speed - and one of the lines around Dublin Port has a level crossing similar to this, but it’s only for freight trains and for new rolling stock coming off the ships at North Wall heading for the old CIE works at Inchicore via Liffey Junction, Cabra and the Phoenix Park Tunnel onto the other lines out of Dublin beyond Dublin Hueston
Watching the crew loading the cars on at the factory is an eye opener. They drive on and along the train almost as thought they're on a dual carriageway yet they have minimal clearance either side
Great video!! - I can just remeber being taken to watch steam trains at Canute Road! 🙂🙂🙂
That must have been really good
Wow - that’s a lot of Minis!
About 45 wagons.
Fantatic Fantatic my friends 😊
What an interesting sight! Is that the 4O39 Morris Cowley M.A.T. to Southampton Eastern Docks? Would love to see it one day.
Thx for sharing 😊
Amazing sight. Must be a bit annoying if you are stuck at the level crossing though!
Yeah I guess some people jump the lights in car, cycle and foot ahead of the train despite the lights and warning sirens and the driver blowing the horn 🙄
I used to work a couple of hundred yards from this crossing. Yes, a bit annoying if you’re running late!
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I was told some years ago that the maximum number of carriages that any freight train is allowed to pull in the UK is 40.
And as other viewers have clearly confirmed there are 46 here.
@@neilburns8869 not the case at all, however told you that is totally incorrect. It is purely limited by the total trailing weight the locomotive(s) are pulling and the maximum length of any section/loops the train is going to use/pass through.
great video dave....please can you tell me which camera you have,as its super sharp??.
0:27 that's a new one on me lol
Interesting to see that the articulated wagons are in banks of five, with breaks between each bank. Presumably there is some clever way of allowing the Minis to drive through for unloading.
The cars can drive the full length of the train on and off
@@davesrailsplanesautos8515How do they drive all the way through when there are huge gaps every five carriages?
@@MartinE63 drop down connectors internally
It goes past the bottom of my road at Worting Junction most days. Minis? It used to be loaded with Range Rovers.
It’s never been range rovers they were built at Solihull, these wagons previously took Rovers from Cowley (Oxford) before BMW took the site over.
@@davesrailsplanesautos8515 Sorry, I should have been more specific. Long before the blue fully enclosed wagons, we had open ended wagons, most certainly loaded with Land Rover products. You were of course referring to the "blue" train. Nice video by the way.
Originally a double track crossing I believe
The guy who gave him a beer is a goat
I'm talking about a track worker giveing a beer to the driver
It's the token for that section of the line. He has to hand it back when he leaves!
@@johnm2012It was actually a radio, the shunter who handed it to him will use it when assisting the driver to position the train in the docks.
@@S2RUF Yes, I know. My joke comment was in response to the original post about it being a beer bottle which, if it was true, would have got them both disciplined. Obviously it wasn't a very good joke as I had to explain in but I thought the exclamation mark was enough.
I shocked they didn’t put another power unit in the middle and one at end so it can have help with hills etc, just imagine the problem it would cause if the only power unit of this long train breaks down and it broke down across many points and lines. As there be no way for another unit to attach to it, if blocking all lines and points this train is going on, having an engine in the middle or at the end or both it can help if a fault occurred on the leading engine
To be honest the class 66’s rarely fail so second looks of middle units are not needed (in his case a loco in the middle would be an issue anyway as the cars drive through the whole.e length of the train to load and unload so additional shunting would be needed). Also as for the weight of the train tower don’t really have either very heavy trains or hills that need extra power other than the Lickey Incline and Garston docks trains (only two I can think of)where some freight trains have to be banked.
Deutsche Bahn? in UK? 🤔
Have been for many years they took over EWS
and, DB has gone bust too after they got rid of their electric locos because the electricity bill was too high and have gone back to diesel that us car owners can no longer buy!
@@stevenmoran4060 DB haven’t gone bust but sidelined their electrics due to the cost of using them
I wonder what the value of these cars is. If each wagon carries six cars at c£25000, that is £6,750000. Are they double-deckers? = £13,500000. Give us this day our daily bread!
The "Blue Sausage" train.
Oh I see these trains are operated by the Definitely British railways?
You need one of those furry minge things on your mic 😂❤
If it's the BMW Mini, then it will be MINI, as the Mini was from BMC days... 🤔
Great.
Must over over half a mile long
@@peterthornton2396 not quite looks longer than it is due to the slow speed
That’s in America
@@markknight1011what is?
@@markknight1011 no it’s in Southampton England
45 carriages
Possibly the longest train in the UK.
Is it any wonder that we are struggling with the economy. Here we have a very long train carrying goods. Whose train? Oh. That would be DB - Deutchebahn the German state railway. Now I do understand that they are carrying good smade by a German company and I have every respect for DB, but why?
Do you understand how many uk people DB employ?
@@lolzlolz69 Do you understand where the vast majority of the company's earnings go? And DB employees will include their courier services rather than just railways, so perhaps I do. The thing is that we had been told that the EU (or its predecessors) frowned upon state ownership, yet DB is 100% owned by the German Federal Government.
I do not criticise the Germans, it is the British that I am critical of. We followed the ideology of Thatcherism and it became a fundamental part of the run-down of British industry. Here we have a foreign government earning directly from those policies.
@@johnorchard4Some of the bus services in London are operated by RATP, which is essentially Paris's equivalent of Transport for London.