Tailwheels and Crosswind - Part I
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- Mastering tailwheel flying is a great way to sharpen any pilot's skills. What you learn in a tailwheel airplane will make you a better pilot in ANY airplane. In this half-hour ground school session, Doug Rozendaal goes over the fundamentals of tailwheel flying and explains how proficiency in crosswind landings can be achieved.
0:00 Start
1:39 Center of Gravity
5:27 Wheel landing vs. 3-point landing
11:51 Crosswind
19:51 Left turning tendencies
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What a professional Master Class on tailwheel flying. I will be watching this episode again over and over until I completely comprehend and assimilate all concepts.
Thank you, Daniel!
- Martin
Brilliant discussion on gyroscopic precession and P Factor ! That spinning bicycle wheel leaves nothing to the imagination. Worth it's weight in gold.
Seeing is believing, and feeling the bicycle wheel move leaves nothing to the imagination.
- Martin
This is literally the best explanation of tailwheel flying that I've ever heard. I've been flying tailwheel for over 25 years and have owned a Champ for the last 11 years...lots of information here that I never even thought about. This guy is a real instructor! Thanks so much for posting.
Thanks for the feedback, and I am glad you got something useful out of the video!
- Martin
Thank you for all the kind words. Martin has a great ability to catch the essence of the lesson and, while long by youtube standards, keep it relatively short.
Fantastic instruction. My normal mount is a Citabria, and never gave much thought to favoring right crosswinds on takeoff because of the left turning tendancy.
Thank you for this incredibly instructive video : it's one thing to be taught how to fly tailwheel, it's another to really understand what happens and for what reason. I will use this next time I fly the PA19 at my club.
Doug, I’m so glad I found this and am so grateful you provided such wonderful mentorship to me last summer, thank you for continuing to share your knowledge!
Thanks Doug! The first 5 mins of your discussion with Martin changed my perspective on how to take off and land....RC taildragger planes! The principles are the same. Before hearing your discussion, I had the misconception that all taildraggers should land on the mains. I struggled being consist managing these maneuvers with the various types of taildraggers in my hanger (RV-8, Stinson 108 Flying Station Wagon, Piper J-3 Cub, Westland Lysander). But now, I respectfully consider the landing characteristics for each plane and its made a world of difference.
Much thanks to you and Martin!
This is one of the best explanations about tail landing that I’ve ever seen. Very technical, clear and illustrative! Thank you very much
Glad we could help!
- Martin
@@martinpauly Couldn't agree more, excellent explanation that is applicable to all pilots
Agreed
Couldn't agree more!
Exceptional video. I have been flying Tailwheels for about 25 years and I learned a few different things from this video. Well done.
Doug is one the most accomplished pilots I have ever known.. he is one of my idols, and I have flown alot of different planes from experimental to mach 2 jets.. Doug is awesome, people should listen to him about tailwheel aircraft.. nice video Martin.
I couldn't agree more - and I am grateful that Doug shares his knowledge and experience on some topics through these videos 👍
- Martin
Best tail wheel video I've found so far. I want that guy teaching me!!
Thank you.
- Martin
Been flying tailwheel for 42 years, this is probably the best description of the physics I have ever seen. Excellent job, learned a few things myself!
Thank you
Hans
Thank you, Hans - happy to hear that.
(Bist Du auch Deutscher?)
- Martin
I fly a tailwheel (Cessna 170) & this is one of the best explanations that I’ve ever heard. Anyone could learn a lot from Doc.
This should be a mandatory watch for every Tailwheel Endorsement! I learned stuff I wish I would have known at the beginning of my tailwheel flying!
That's what Doug and I were hoping for - to create something meaningful for anyone starting (or getting back into) tailwheel flying.
- Martin
Was the Tailwind harder to fly than the plane you got your certification in?
@@kwittnebel easier actually. I got my endorsement in a Vagabond
@@MotoFlightGuy that is good news for us aspiring Tailwind pilots.
@@martinpauly "'That's what Doug and I were hoping for - to create something meaningful for anyone starting (or getting back into) tailwheel flying."
That was clear. I did my TW 18 months ago and (sadly) learned more in the video than I had learnt from the instructor. Great brush up before some more dual in an RV8
I needed to watch this video in 1980, but neither RUclips nor instructors that were great at teaching were around. Plenty time builders and textbook knowledge, but lacking conceptual knowledge and practice. Great video and very nice airplanes hangared.
Fantastic video on tailwheel flying! Doug, you possess a wealth of insight and I appreciate the ability to sit under your instruction for 29 minutes.
Thank you, Curtis.
Yep ! He said it very well. My ratings. Singer engin land ,Conventional gear, high horsepower complex. Glider . Through in mountain flying. Getting this combination of ratings and experience makes you a much better pilot safer.
Those are all good things to learn about. More generally speaking, the desire to keep learning and continuously improve our skills is more important than any one particular skill of that list.
- Martin
Excellent commentary that I haven't seen anywhere else.
Thank you, Steve.
- Martin
It’s a lot to get your head around.
Seat of the pants experience and a wonderful instructor.
Glad you enjoyed the lesson.
- Martin
Best video of explaining Tailwheel so far👍🏻
Glad you found the video helpful!
- Martin
I will make this video a mandatory pre-study for future pilots who wants to be checked out by me, thanx!
I could listen to that deep calming voice all day
Ever since I got my tail wheel sign off, I thought that was the greatest way to fly. If you use tail wheel skills with the tricycle gear, you become a better pilot. The problem is not losing the skill more than it is trying to obtain an airplane, especially one you could rent that is of a tail wheel configuration. It’s almost like trying to find a car or truck or SUV with a stick shift. They’re just getting more and more scarce.
Yes, that is true. I wish there was a tailwheel airplane for rent at my home airport - I am not aware of one.
- Martin
I taught myself to fly tail wheel aircraft. Put the plane on skis and flew about 15 hrs and than installed the wheels never looked back after.
Cessna 140, 180, Stinson.
Enjoyed the video and advice on landing with a direct crosswind. Did my training in a Decathlon in Texas. Landing in a cow pasture was some of the best training for me. J.L. Hibbert
Glad you enjoyed this one, James. Decathlons are a lot of fun, aren't they?
- Martin
Several good explanations I hadn’t heard before.
Glad we could help, Bill!
- Martin
Awesome stuff, Martin! Thank you. Doug is the best.
Hell, I just fly models and it taught me more in thirty minutes than I've learned in years of trying learn being a hobbyist.
Thanks, Tony - I'm glad this was helpful for you.
- Martin
Brilliant, thanks for making this ! Valuable training
great vid... back in the early 1970s I was in high school when I started to learn to fly, on a PA 18 on floats, but do to seasonal changes switched to skis and then out to the airport on wheels, so have had the experience of tail wheel flying... ended up when done with my private license being single engine land and sea rated... this was in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, Canada... airport code YAM, now CYAM...
I have never experienced skis, not even as a passenger. Is it hard to assess your hight above ground when it's all just white below you?
he is good at teaching, so simple but proficcient! more should watch it!
Thank u so much for this video. I watched both and u couldn't go wrong having Doug for an CFI. Wow, learned a lot. Thanx again!
Have 955 landings, doing wheelers on my short legged RV4. I thought the tail hitting first was not good, when attempting a 3 pointer. Best tutorial I’ve ever seen. Thank you.
A short leg RV-4 and some other taildraggers are no where near the stall attitude when the tailwheel touches first. In a full stall attitude the mains are a long ways from the ground, and when the tailwheel touches, the downward inertia causes the mains to hit hard and there is no way to stop it. This can damage the gear, or even spread it far enough to hit the prop. Therefore full stall landings are not recommended. They can be 3 pointed but one must take care to not let the angle get to high at touchdown.
Who needs FAA publications when you have Martin and Doug!
Great video Martin!
(i'm still gonna read the books)
:)
Starting the takeoff roll with the stick forward allows the tail to come up slowly, making the gyroscopic effect less sudden as the tail comes up
Early in my private training I purchased a Luscombe 8A. Completed my certificate and spent a decade flying that thing. Prior to buying it, everybody recommended that I not buy that as my first plane. Narrow gear and squirrley they said. That plane and I worked together as one and it paved the way for me now owing a high performance, short coupled tail dragger (Maule) which I am also at one with.
Looks like the Luscombe ended up being a good choice for you, Kirk. 👍
- Martin
Gentlemen, This video is full of lessons. I have watched this part 1, three time and i learn each time something else. Thanks a lot.
Thanks for the kind words, Claude.
- Martin
Doug Knows his Shxxxt. A person could not have explained flying a Tailwheel more accurately than Doug. Listen to him carefully if you want to Master the Tailwheel!!!
Yes, he sure does. Every time I listen to him I learn something.
- Martin
Wow...Great video Martin! Very informative.
Martin, thanks for sharing this ground school session. Doug did a great job breaking down a concept that I 'knew', but never really 'owned'. He strikes me as a gem of an instructor. Keep it coming!
Indeed, Andy - he is a fabulous instructor, and I am fortunate to learn from him.
- Martin
AWESOME info I am a Tailwheel pilot with just over 300 hrs in my T Craft bc12d/85....In Central Montana our average winds this time of year often are 15k or more, after 8 weeks of NO FLYING "I usually fly every day, I needed some encouragement and refreshing, awesome video.
Sold......right after my IFR ticket....gonna-git’er-done..... also shows the value of a great instructor who can teach on the ground, not just in the air.
A marvelous video, and great explanation. If you ever tour Iowa City, look up 1142 E court. My great grandfather built that house and owned the brickyard that made the bricks for the house, and many of the old brick pavers in the city. The house was completed in 1858 and has been nicely restored by a local attorney.
Thanks, Brian.
- Martin
Excellent video! When I learned to fly, I had 100 hours in a "conventional gear" (tail dragger) aircraft before I ever got to fly a tricycle gear machine (Cessna 172). It took me less than 45 minutes to check out in the 172. The transition was no problem. I always said it was like going from a stick shit car to an automatic transmission. When people tell me they want to learn to fly, I always suggest that they seek out a flying school that has a tail dragger and do at least their first 20 hours in it. This will pay dividends for the rest of your flying career. This gives you the right reactions from the start. I know it is hard to find a school with a tail dragger, but it is worth it.
I agree with you, Ray. Though I suspect "stick shit car" was a typo (or maybe a Freudian slip)? 🤣
Best regards,
Martin
Thank you for sharing. I am a 210hr instrument rated SEL pilot but have not flown in 6 years. I will be getting back in the air soon and will be ironing out my stick and rudder skills in a J-3. This video series is hugely beneficial, thank you.
Glad we could help you, Christopher, and best of luck for getting proficient again!
- Martin
Excellent description of tail wheel dynamics. Thank you for sharing
Thanks, Jim.
- Martin
Excellent instructor. Well worth the watch.
I agree with previous commenters, this is the best explanation of tailwheel flying I have heard. My big takeaway was how if you have a choice a right crosswind is beneficial for takeoff. It makes sense but I have never heard it explained that way.
Thank you, David.
- Martin
Great content. I've been flying a RV6 for 15 years and learned a few pointers I've never considered before.
Not a pilot but all of this makes a lot of sense. These would be great skills for any pilot to have in the arsenal. Doug really knows his stuff and has a great narration voice. Martin you also have a very good knowledge of these concepts already. Can't wait to see them in practice. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, Bill. I am fortunate that Doug is sharing some of his vast knowledge with me.
- Martin
Best Tail dragger ground school one could have
Thank you very much!
- Martin
That Ground Briefing is probably the best I've ever seen. Great explanations to differentiate between the nose dragger and tail dragger during the "expensive speed" rollout. Excellent explanations of aerodynamics that separate the TW aircraft from the C-172 regarding adverse yaw and drag (especially for the older TW aircraft) and those left turning factors. Best of all was the use of question technique to engage the learner and prompt recall of principles and concepts. Well done !
Thanks, Bob - glad you enjoyed the lesson.
- Martin
Well done, I’m an airline pilot, and really miss GA and tailwheel flying.
Thanks. Maybe you can get back into light-GA flying on the side, just for fun? Many airline pilots do that.
- Martin
Just started my tailwheel training and my instructor told me to go through your two part videos first. Thanks for the efforts!
I hope it helped!
- Martin
Outstanding explanation of tail wheel aerodynamics. Doug is the man.
Yes, he is!
- Martin
Huge thanks to Martin and Doug for doing both the tail wheel and the multi engine training videos!
Doug is a great instructor and Martin has mastered video editing.
Our pleasure, Tim! Glad you like the result.
- Martin
Excellent tail wheel lesson for all pilots! Thanks
Absolutely spot-on advice and knowlege.
Glad you enjoyed this video!
- Martin
Best explanation I've heard explaining all the dynamics effecting a tail wheel A/C, bar none. Incedentaly took my primary flight instructions in a 7ECA, loved that bird!!!
Thank you, Bill! Do you still have that Citabria, or what do you fly these days?
- Martin
What a great video. Doug has a great way of breaking down the complexity into simple to understand, bite sized chunks. Thank-you both for the lessons
Glad you enjoyed it, Ian.
- Martin
I am not a real pilot and unfortunately will probably never be. But I try my best at simming. I know it is not the same thing but it is the closest I will ever come. I have had a lot of issues with taildraggers and I frankly suck at landing them. This video changed all of that. I still suck, but now I can land the thing and not groundloop half of the time. :) The portion where the wind should come from when landing and taking off in a crosswind was very good! It also gave an excellent overview on the things/forces that come into play, in a good format. Thank you! take- care /Andy
Happy to help, Andy, and I hope you'll keep having fun in the sim!
- Martin
Great timing. I start tailwheel training in 3 weeks.
Doug has a fantastic manner of teaching, great video. Thanks.
looks like Tailwheel study is a must of mastering airplane fly. these stick and rudder skill serves all airplanes
Yes. If you want to improve your airplane skills, learning to fly a tailwheel airplane is a good way to do that.
Martin, I met you at SNF earlier this week. Your videos were very helpful in me getting my tailwheel endorsement last summer and eventually flying a Piper Pawnee towing gliders. Looking forward to more RUclips videos!
Thanks for saying hi, and all the best for flying taildraggers!
- Martin
In my opinion the best video on the subject!
Tomorrow I will get my Tailwheel briefing, I am very excited and feel super prepared.
Excellent - how did it go?
Thank you very much for this video. Doug's briefing is crystal clear, so neat and up to the point!
Agreed, Denis.
- Martin
Martin -- that demo with the bicycle wheel was eye opening. Gyroscopic procession is one thing to read about and "understand"...but seeing it put it into perspective for me. Thanks! Really looking forward to seeing the flight portion of your training.
Incredible. Never thought (or was taught) so much regarding gyroscopic effect and other factors
Outstanding video, more of these please with Doug in them.
This video is the best explanation ever about tailwheel aircraft. This is exactly and literally what I needed in order to understand more about it and to improve my rudder skills. YOU'RE THE BEST. I LOVED IT.
Thank you, Ahmed. Happy Landings!
- Martin
Thanks very much for posting this Martin, it's invaluable. I wish yt was around when Dad was cropdusting in an Agwagon in NZ, which is not flatland flying or more importantly is not flatland landing/taking off. He could have given a wealth of information on tailwheel handling on hills and undulating ground that adds another dimension to what Doug describes very well (and many thanks to him for sharing his expertise in a thoroughly accessible way)
WOW! GREAT JOB! VERY CLEAR...HE SHOULD HAVE TAUGHT THIS USING A MODEL PLANE! THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 5 STARS ALL THE WAY!
Nice video again Martin!
Some of your best content, Martin.
Outstanding presentation. Great example of gyroscopic precession. I'll be watching you, thanks
Thanks, Christopher.
- Martin
When I was a kid, befriended Vincent Dieter. He had a '74 Bonanza F-33A. N711JA. He died when I was in basic training.
Tracked down tail number, someone here in Florida crashed it. Too bad
Thank you for posting this. I really enjoyed it. Both you and Doug are exceptional in this video. I look forward to seeing them all.
Doug Rozendaal : i am learning to fly in Canada and just watched your instruction with Martin! I am only in the AULA cat ( Light Sport in Canada ) and was nervous to look at tail wheel, but now I feel that is what I will move to once training is complete to learn better flying skills...with a proper instructor thank you
I'll probably never fly a plane, but videos like these are still super fascinating to watch. Thanks for sharing this, looking forward to more
Glad you like it, Jackson. Maybe one day you can experience it for real in an airplane!
- Martin
Excellent explanation of crosswind landings, never heard or seen it explained this way!
Makes perfect sense once you think about it this way, doesn't it? And not just in tailwheel airplanes, by the way!
- Martin
Excellent discussion, much appreciated.
I remember when I got my tail wheel training and then my sign off. It does in fact make you a better nose wheel pilot. It all honesty. I enjoy flying a tail wheel more because you are actually flying the plane 100% compared to a nose wheel, which is very forgiving. Not saying a tricycle gear pilot is not a great pilot but a tail wheel pilot is a better trained pilot.
Makes sense to me!
- Martin
This is awesome! Thank you, Doug, for explaining these things so succinctly, and thank you, Martin, for showing us Doug's wisdom! I love this channel!
Thanks for another great video! I can't believe I've missed this for almost two years! So much respect for Doug and his ability to convey flying techniques.
Outstanding! Learned a thing or two, and so very well explained! Thank you!
Excellent information for all pilots.
Elegant is a good word. 😎
Hallo Martin, ich bin immer wieder sehr dankbar für die Einblicke, die Du in das Fliegen, aber auch in besondere Persönlichkeiten gewährst. Danke! Weiter so!
Really good review. Thanks so much
Awesome video as always Martin. And once again I’ve learned something from the master, Doug Rozendaal!’
What an amazing instructor. I got my tail wheel ticket earlier this year. It really does make you think differently about wind and how you use the stick and rudder. Really looking forward to the rest of the series.
Great to hear, Andy!
- Martin
You're videos are great and very informative Martin and you are a gem of an instructor Doug! :-) The bicycle wheel demonstration and comparison to the P-51 propeller was a very eye opening demonstration. I am at the beginning of learning to fly in a tail wheel aircraft and loving it. This RUclips ground school lesson will help strengthen my training :-). Best regards, Christian
Excellent discussion and very good instruction. Thanks.
I am very greatful to have started out in a tail wheel airplane. An Aeronca Champ. Such a blast to fly!!
Similarly, I started in gliders. You and I both know what the rudder is for 👍
- Martin
@@martinpauly ha most certainly
Excellent video. I do appreciate the fundamentals of this master class of cross wind landing!
Brilliant and so simple explanation.
did mine in an RV7.
look forward to doing more
Great ground instruction, so much information laid out so simply. I am considering buying into a tailwheel aircraft in my club and getting my endorsement, so very timely as well! Thanks as always for sharing your videos, I always look forward to them!
Really appreciate the slow step by step approach and touching all the bases. Learning to fly RV's and this is invaluable info. Nice job.
Thanks!
- Martin
Excellent content and delivery.
Very informative video, Thanks Martin! Love the Mr. Mulligan behind you guys!
Amazing instructor right there. I love how he explains why you’re doing something and not just what to do. And in a way one can actually remember!
I fly a Piper SuperCub on a regular basis and I must say I absolutely love it. And I’m sure you’re gonna love flying tailwheel too!
Looking forward to part 2, 3, 4,... of this series.
Thanks for sharing
Great video, lots of very useful tips and hints on landing and taking off on a classic landing gear aircraft. Thanks for posting.
Hey Doug... after 50 years of flying taildraggers, you’ve finally explained what I’ve been doing!!