@@bazsnell3178 Jon is still doing it, just on a different channel It's important people know that the TV license isn't a requirement under the right circumstances
It makes great sense diverting to another channel. Based on your comments from earlier Vlog, you were not in the algorithms for searches as lost in the chilli food stuff cooking up a stir in a pan… With the TV licence Stop, it is specific to the content.
I went through this bollix a few years back when I informed them I didn't require a TV Licence. Within 6 months I started getting the threatening letters and I didn't bother responding. The reason why? One, they really pissed me off with their threatening methods, which really put my back up and Two, they actually do not provide you with a cost free postage method to send them the information they're asking for.
I keep getting this same letter for the last few years I have neer answered to any and never had a licence in all my adult years more people need to know they don't need one
I opted out a couple of years ago . But they have now started hitting me with to the occupier , rather than using my name . I’m presuming they think I have moved on . My last letter was actually in a red envelope .
I opted out years ago (due to never viewing normal TV) and declared NLN, they addressed their 2 yearly reminders to my name for a while then suddenly I became To The Occupier! I even sent one reminder back (unstamped so they had to pay!) scrawled with "nothing has changed (& wishing I could say You Morons, stop bugging me, I'll tell you when and if I ever need one!!)" AND my initials to see if they "clicked" it was the same person but no, they don't seem to have made the connection. 😜😜 Fine by me. Love being anonymous. No visits that I know of, doesn't scare me, they can't ask for a name... thanks Chili !
"If you fail to get in touch, you risk prosecution and a fine of up to £1,000". They seem to be implying, that you can be prosecuted for not getting in touch. 😕
"There's a 99% conviction rate for license fee evasion" Does that sound like they're saying if you don't pay for a license, you will get a conviction? 🤔
There is no obligation for you to get in touch - it's just their last desperate act to try and harass and intimidate people into paying for something that they don't want, and don't need. Ignore them.
I got a visit yesterday fron the TV licensing agency and came to my side gate,as soon has i saw his uniform and he showed me his i.d. badge i said no thank you and told i was revoking his right of access. I then said politely good bye. I then went i side and got on line and filled in the form to say i no longer watch live tv or and other channels that requore a licence. Im expecting a visit again or a letter.
If they are sending you letters addressed to the legal occupier then they are unsure if anyone lives at your address. If you open the door to the goons then they know someone lives there without a doubt. My advice if one turns up? Don't even open the door.
All the letters iv recived got to the occupier on it.. I just bin them... We did have a visit from a goon, but I didn't open the door, he then put another letter in my door, saying iv got 10 days to get a licence.. That was 2 months ago.. Not had no letter or any one knocking on my door . And if I do I will not open my door, and every letter I get will go in the bin... I don't watch BBC OR IPLAYER.. OR NO LIVE TV..
My Letters have now started to arrive in bright red envelopes with a window on the front showing the words 'Official Notice' in big black letters...comical.
I've had three of these over the last 36 months, two of them in red envelopes, addressed to the "legal occupier", because they've no idea who lives here. Don't respond in any way because that confirms the property's occupied. Cancel your DD, ignore them and watch whatever you like!
I did a no-licence declaration for my 93-year-old father, who is deaf and poorly sighted. He doesn't have a TV and doesn't use Iplayer. Thankfully to date, he hasn't had a visit from a goon and I have CCTV watching the property so I know who visits and doesn't. Fingers crossed they don't visit.
Should be OK. I did one last February when I inherited my mums house. Got a confirmation they'd check again in 2 years. I year on and no hassle so far.
@Bad Wiltshire Drivers If they know your Father is 93, They probably wont even bother! He is TOO OLD.... No offence to him! They tend to target specific Age Groups as they are more likely to need a TV License... The 18-25 Age Bracket and 45-60 ages are the most common ... And they also watch Area Statistics as well... Places known for High Population Growth are more likely to have Young Children so they are "Hot Beds" for Parents watching TV to keep the kids entertained! Yeah, Not many realise but Capita do actually have a Plan of where and when they are going to send out their Goons as it helps them save money! They are a Private Company on a Government Contract so they have to have a plan or they might lose their funding! And as they are nothing more than "Door to Door Salesmen" - And I previously did a short stint in "Door to Door Sales" ... I know how it works! (Side Note: I know we all get annoyed by Door To Door Sales people... But I urge you to be nice! Its a F**KING HORRIBLE JOB... Supposed to be 8 Hours a day but you can be working 16 Hours with Training as well, UNPAID... You only get paid for the 8 hours and Commission... Minimum Wage... And you are often encouraged into "Setting up your own office" meaning you don't even get minimum wage as they take money to train you to run your own "Marketing Branch" - Door To Door Sale Folks are almost always being S**t on by their employer's LEAGALLY... So be nice to them! They are working in an uncaring and vile sector and many wont last more than a month in the job as its SO DAMN HORRIBLE!)
If they want to come and lock my 94 year old mum up that will save a fortune on care… she’d be warm, fed and can watch tv lol. It’s her birthday I’m going to buy her several TVs and use the letters to light her fire.
If the conviction rate is 99% it would suggest kangaroo courts are in operation. To help investigate this it would be useful to know the circumstances of the trials; average court time, successful defences, etc
The vast majority of these cases are tried in the cop/CPS friendly magistrates court where the judge will almost certainly take more notice of the prosecution than any defence provided. It may not be cost effective, but if people challenged them in the crown court, I'm pretty sure the conviction rate would come down dramatically.
I get one every month and now its got to point i will be calling them that they are causing distress to me as i am a OAP and do not use any of their services and told them that in the past.
And the funerals of Prince Philip and HM the Queen, the Platinum Jubilee, each Remembrance Sunday- these are not of national importance? PM Question Time, this is not a civic right? It’s appalling that refusal to pay their rancid ransom denies the citizen of the right to consume news visually from non BBC providers. Fortunately, I am right with Talk radio and GBN radio, I can always check out visuals later on RUclips. Nonetheless it’s a diabolical liberty as Nan would say.
@@marylowrey8911 The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh's funerals both came under a TV licence amnesty. What I'd be wary of is how much leeway they gave before and after the event. These live events have a tendency to go over the advertised times, and you can bet TVL would be looking to exploit that.
I declared that I didn't need a licence and after 2 years instead a getting a reminder addressed to me I started getting threatening letters addressed to the occupier. Seems like if you don't tell them every 2 years they completely forget who you are. 😁
you can declare no license needed without giving any details. just say "no you may not" when they ask if they can have your name. i got a confirmation letter to the legal occupier.
I don't have a digital receiver so I don't need a license. I tell the caller to come back with a court order or don't come back at all. Needless to say, they don't come back.
If you do live in a property at street level, with windows visible from the street, and are licence free, you're probably a prime candidate for a visit. In this case I would suggest keeping a typed note by your door, with some bumph on it about the undersigned owing you money. And when/if you get yer common or garden goon come a knocking, and he/she asks you to sign a form, produce your form and ask them to sign that for you first. Now.. When they obviously refuse to sign a piece of paper that you've just stuck in front of their face. You point out to them "YES! It was a stupid question. Wasn't it?"
Jon on the BBC license page they ask you 6 questions one of which is 'Do you or does anyone in your household ever watch TV on any channel?' and they list as examples ITV, 5, Channel 4, BBC and Dave. They don't separate BBC from these other channels and they don't use the word 'live'. So if you watch ITV on catchup for example, it implies you need a TV license. They word it so badly. Thank you for your help clarifying this.
Got mine in today's post It states : Can apply for a search warrant to access your property Can interview you under caution in accordance with national criminal law Can they ?? Surely not
I informed them of my 'no need for a license' if they can't keep accurate records for more than 24 months, then, at their expense, they can send someone round to hear the same thing.
@ChilliJonCarne I just had one that says "Be prepared for this investigation to lead to prosecution". Within 2 days I was leaving the house and an Officer pounced on me and handed me some piece of paper. Then started asking me questions to which I didn't reply. Then he said "Are you accepting that then?" so I gave him back his piece of paper and left. ON MY MOBILITY SCOOTER. Honestly just wish these people would eff off. I don't support paedophiles.
I received this at my old property and my new property. My new property had only finished being built in January yet they were writing to the address from may last year.
A few years ago I moved had a licence rang them up to tell the I moved few weeks later received a letter saying no tv licence for this address,rang them up to tell them I’d told them I’d previously rang up their answer it’s a different department wtf
I live in Australia where there is no TV licence at all. I love your videos because you essentially stick it to the man. Keep on educating the British public. TV licence? What a stupid concept. Keep up the good fight.
Did you ever address if Capita enforcement record people on using the hand-held device or is it just coincidence its always pointed at the person answering the door. Has anyone requested the data recorded by it ?
Yet they still have an issue with us mere peons recording them and them claiming that recording them is somehow illegal and against their rights, hmm I think a letter to the local council is in order over the CCTV system they operate 🤔😂
One thing I dont think you have covered is why if you choose to pay monthly you pay alot more for a years fee.The BBC are not a lending house so no need to put interest on a fee.
Surely the wording of these letters breaches Public. order or demanding money by menace? Has anyone actually asked if the letters constitute threatening behaviour
Pro tip: they addressed a letter to your “NAME” in all capital letters. That is a legal fiction. That is not you. You can truthfully say to anyone who asks you, “Is this you?” that it is NOT you. If an “official” (corporate term) asks, “What is your name?”, remember that they knocked on YOUR door. If they don’t already know who you are, then you sure don’t need to tell them. Learn the difference between legal and law….
Did it 2yr ago letters started again January. Cost me a phone call £3 approx to declare not needed last time.Why should I bother,I've got more important things to worry about right now.
I let my licence run out, 3 years ago, and did NOT renew. I did email BBC complaints to inform them why (and it wasn't pretty) and told them in that email that I was cancelling. I did NOT declare my cancellation officially, as I wanted no further contact with them. Have been getting a letter every month since. Where do I stand now?
Sky tv grasses you up and also when buying a new television. Also, having a teen that rushes to the door and starts conversation giving details is also not good. I've been fined in the past.
Don't need a licence. Get a letter every couple of months without fail (set light to the last one) I just tell them to go away and refuse to answer questions apparently I've been under investigation for the last 5 years lol.
I can imagine the author of these letters watching your video's and thinks I wonder if I change this word for that word and push the boundaries how long it will take chilliejoncarne to rip it apart 😂😂😂😂
One thing is sure. You can bet that they have these letters checked and double checked by their lawyers to ensure they are legal and above board. That's why the letters have never been challenged in court, because all lawyers will know this and advise against challenging them.
Just tell them you can't possibly talk to them as you're in a very important meeting it's what we get from them.you're on automatic lists which seem to last for life once you're on it. If the name on the letter is fake surely that's misinformed reporting.
Jon, I received another letter yesterday. I was in a bit of a silly naughty mood so I phoned them up to make a no deeded declaration. All our letters are signed by a fictitious Mr Scott Robson of Guildford. In order to submit the declaration on their system they required a name....... Scott Robson. I can't wait to get the next letter to Scott Robson from Scott Robson. Should make a bit of a laugh. Or have I been stupid ? I was in a silly stupid naughty mood yesterday.
I've never had a visit and have done 2 decelerations. My house is now in a no cold call zone so I'm pretty sure they can't come round.i do however do the deceleration in my old name as that person no longer exists.
Note that they want you to write to them but Never enclose a self addressed or freepost envelope. I don't have a licence and I will not write back to them at my expense. Keep the threats coming, 5½ years since the first and still nothing.
In southern Ireland, you need a TV licence for their state channel RTE. But rte also has Adverts, and it costs €160 a year and is policed with goons like here. So I guess things could be worse.
Try using the website. It asks a list of questions. Unless it's changed one question was do you watch live broadcast including RUclips. Well unless it a mainstream TV Live stream you don't need a licence. But many of the questions make it look like you do.
I`m not a fast learner - `never have been. But even I have managed to figure out the meanings of the big red letters - and that I`d need a TV License under the conditions stipulated in the letter. No, ChilliJonCarne, I do not have to tell TV Licensing every two years that I don`t need a TV License. How have you slipped up on such an elementary point of law ?
My license is due to be renewed at the end of this month and I don't want to renew but I'm a bit worried as they have my name so they know our property is occupied. I did think of sending the letter back to them with "not known at this address' on envelope but worried that will guarantee me a visit from a goon.
How do they know you know you still there, you may have moved the day after you bought your last licence, you tv may have been dmg beyond repair and forgot to get a refund
If after a period of not needing a licence then a change in circumstance requires one do the BBC try to bill you from the expiry of the last known licence or from the date of application for the new one.
Gangsta Letters PMSL they must spend a shit load of money on letters and paper since this began of the dawn of the television, imagine the cost??? when people just throw them in the bin (thats so funny just thinkin about it)
Mr Carne, if you haven't seen it, you should watch Jim Broadbent as your spritual grandfather fighting TV licensing in the 1960s in the film "The Duke". The fight is now over 60 years old!
Just to say I have done the declaration for about 10 years now, but never had a visit. Mind you I moved into a house with my new wife and because she was registered as living at the house and then I moved in after getting married the TV licence people seem to think we now both need to declare we do not need a licence. So I have to do this twice every 2 yrs. Which I welcome and enjoy having to do twice. (Big smiley face of sarcasm)
Jon just saying
I thought you were doing away with TV license videos on this channel?
Still had a batch uploaded, there wont be any new ones
@@ChilliJonCarne Ah fair enough
Keep up your excellent work otherwise 👍
O.K. then. It was all getting a bit boring anyway.
@@bazsnell3178 Jon is still doing it, just on a different channel
It's important people know that the TV license isn't a requirement under the right circumstances
It makes great sense diverting to another channel. Based on your comments from earlier Vlog, you were not in the algorithms for searches as lost in the chilli food stuff cooking up a stir in a pan… With the TV licence Stop, it is specific to the content.
I went through this bollix a few years back when I informed them I didn't require a TV Licence. Within 6 months I started getting the threatening letters and I didn't bother responding. The reason why? One, they really pissed me off with their threatening methods, which really put my back up and Two, they actually do not provide you with a cost free postage method to send them the information they're asking for.
The letters go straight in the bin unopened I don't have a letterbox in my door anymore.
I am not worried by a goon wanting to come into my home.
But as long as I can look inside his home first?
I keep getting this same letter for the last few years I have neer answered to any and never had a licence in all my adult years more people need to know they don't need one
It's 6 years since I started the no Licence declaration
No letters no visitors
They don't know you are there. All they have is an address in a DB that shows no current TV licence. End of.
I opted out a couple of years ago . But they have now started hitting me with to the occupier , rather than using my name . I’m presuming they think I have moved on . My last letter was actually in a red envelope .
I opted out years ago (due to never viewing normal TV) and declared NLN, they addressed their 2 yearly reminders to my name for a while then suddenly I became To The Occupier! I even sent one reminder back (unstamped so they had to pay!) scrawled with "nothing has changed (& wishing I could say You Morons, stop bugging me, I'll tell you when and if I ever need one!!)" AND my initials to see if they "clicked" it was the same person but no, they don't seem to have made the connection. 😜😜 Fine by me. Love being anonymous. No visits that I know of, doesn't scare me, they can't ask for a name... thanks Chili !
"If you fail to get in touch, you risk prosecution and a fine of up to £1,000".
They seem to be implying, that you can be prosecuted for not getting in touch. 😕
"There's a 99% conviction rate for license fee evasion"
Does that sound like they're saying if you don't pay for a license, you will get a conviction? 🤔
I've never been in touch 😂😂😂 5 years free 👊
Licence 😂😂
@@JB-oo7cv Then you obviously don't need a licence and never had to have one?
There is no obligation for you to get in touch - it's just their last desperate act to try and harass and intimidate people into paying for something that they don't want, and don't need.
Ignore them.
I had this one, chuckled to myself and binned it.
Yep same here 😊
I got a visit yesterday fron the TV licensing agency and came to my side gate,as soon has i saw his uniform and he showed me his i.d. badge i said no thank you and told i was revoking his right of access. I then said politely good bye. I then went i side and got on line and filled in the form to say i no longer watch live tv or and other channels that requore a licence. Im expecting a visit again or a letter.
Had the same letter today - from Jane Jeffers, it will be great for starting the wood burner off!!
If they are sending you letters addressed to the legal occupier then they are unsure if anyone lives at your address. If you open the door to the goons then they know someone lives there without a doubt. My advice if one turns up? Don't even open the door.
You could have family staying, lodgers, kids friends staying an old drunk great grandad 😂 anyone can answer the door
But how do you know who's knocking on your door? It could be someone from the Lottery to tell you that you have just won £20,000,000? Then what?
They love their scary letters , But i guess they can be used as fuel to heat the home.
All the letters iv recived got to the occupier on it.. I just bin them... We did have a visit from a goon, but I didn't open the door, he then put another letter in my door, saying iv got 10 days to get a licence.. That was 2 months ago.. Not had no letter or any one knocking on my door . And if I do I will not open my door, and every letter I get will go in the bin... I don't watch BBC OR IPLAYER.. OR NO LIVE TV..
I was on my final warning 5 years ago....
My Letters have now started to arrive in bright red envelopes with a window on the front showing the words 'Official Notice' in big black letters...comical.
I've had three of these over the last 36 months, two of them in red envelopes, addressed to the "legal occupier", because they've no idea who lives here. Don't respond in any way because that confirms the property's occupied.
Cancel your DD, ignore them and watch whatever you like!
I get 1 a month
I did a no-licence declaration for my 93-year-old father, who is deaf and poorly sighted. He doesn't have a TV and doesn't use Iplayer. Thankfully to date, he hasn't had a visit from a goon and I have CCTV watching the property so I know who visits and doesn't. Fingers crossed they don't visit.
Should be OK. I did one last February when I inherited my mums house. Got a confirmation they'd check again in 2 years. I year on and no hassle so far.
It's none of the BBC's business if he doesn't need licence and if he has a TV or not.
@Bad Wiltshire Drivers If they know your Father is 93, They probably wont even bother! He is TOO OLD.... No offence to him!
They tend to target specific Age Groups as they are more likely to need a TV License... The 18-25 Age Bracket and 45-60 ages are the most common ... And they also watch Area Statistics as well... Places known for High Population Growth are more likely to have Young Children so they are "Hot Beds" for Parents watching TV to keep the kids entertained!
Yeah, Not many realise but Capita do actually have a Plan of where and when they are going to send out their Goons as it helps them save money! They are a Private Company on a Government Contract so they have to have a plan or they might lose their funding! And as they are nothing more than "Door to Door Salesmen" - And I previously did a short stint in "Door to Door Sales" ... I know how it works!
(Side Note: I know we all get annoyed by Door To Door Sales people... But I urge you to be nice! Its a F**KING HORRIBLE JOB... Supposed to be 8 Hours a day but you can be working 16 Hours with Training as well, UNPAID... You only get paid for the 8 hours and Commission... Minimum Wage... And you are often encouraged into "Setting up your own office" meaning you don't even get minimum wage as they take money to train you to run your own "Marketing Branch" - Door To Door Sale Folks are almost always being S**t on by their employer's LEAGALLY... So be nice to them! They are working in an uncaring and vile sector and many wont last more than a month in the job as its SO DAMN HORRIBLE!)
They cancelled my NLN after 1 year as they thought "I had moved", needless to say i won't be doing it anymore!
If they want to come and lock my 94 year old mum up that will save a fortune on care… she’d be warm, fed and can watch tv lol. It’s her birthday I’m going to buy her several TVs and use the letters to light her fire.
If the conviction rate is 99% it would suggest kangaroo courts are in operation. To help investigate this it would be useful to know the circumstances of the trials; average court time, successful defences, etc
The vast majority of these cases are tried in the cop/CPS friendly magistrates court where the judge will almost certainly take more notice of the prosecution than any defence provided. It may not be cost effective, but if people challenged them in the crown court, I'm pretty sure the conviction rate would come down dramatically.
They aren't trials.
You aren't entitled to a jury. It's a magistrate rubber stamping for the Goon Office.
Got a red letter last week put it straight in the bin lol
I find it easy to deal with any letter from TV Licencing.
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Does it have 'Darlington' on the rear.
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If yes, dont open it, put it in the bin.
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I get one every month and now its got to point i will be calling them that they are causing distress to me as i am a OAP and do not use any of their services and told them that in the past.
you are spot on...why should i reply,why inform them...
BBC licence fee ditched for King's Coronation weekend as event of "national importance". Yippitido I'd rather watch paint dry!
And the funerals of Prince Philip and HM the Queen, the Platinum Jubilee, each Remembrance Sunday- these are not of national importance? PM Question Time, this is not a civic right? It’s appalling that refusal to pay their rancid ransom denies the citizen of the right to consume news visually from non BBC providers. Fortunately, I am right with Talk radio and GBN radio, I can always check out visuals later on RUclips. Nonetheless it’s a diabolical liberty as Nan would say.
Only for community venues that don't already have a licence. Not for normal home residents.
@@marylowrey8911 The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh's funerals both came under a TV licence amnesty. What I'd be wary of is how much leeway they gave before and after the event. These live events have a tendency to go over the advertised times, and you can bet TVL would be looking to exploit that.
Yep, I got this one and it arrived in a bright red envelope!
Why would anyone even open these letters? Send them back marked "return to sender".
I don't do anything they say I should do. I just ignore them and do nothing. They have zero powers.
I declared that I didn't need a licence and after 2 years instead a getting a reminder addressed to me I started getting threatening letters addressed to the occupier.
Seems like if you don't tell them every 2 years they completely forget who you are. 😁
you can declare no license needed without giving any details. just say "no you may not" when they ask if they can have your name. i got a confirmation letter to the legal occupier.
I have had one just ignored it waiting for the goon to come .
I don't have a digital receiver so I don't need a license. I tell the caller to come back with a court order or don't come back at all. Needless to say, they don't come back.
If you do live in a property at street level, with windows visible from the street, and are licence free, you're probably a prime candidate for a visit.
In this case I would suggest keeping a typed note by your door, with some bumph on it about the undersigned owing you money. And when/if you get yer common or garden goon come a knocking, and he/she asks you to sign a form, produce your form and ask them to sign that for you first.
Now.. When they obviously refuse to sign a piece of paper that you've just stuck in front of their face. You point out to them "YES! It was a stupid question. Wasn't it?"
I wonder how many License fees are being spent on these letters and door to door salesmen ?
8 miillion a year i believe
@@frog1686 Yes, I think that's about right.
Tell them you don't need a license and they will definitely visit you, I know.
Because it's the first step in coercion
Had this one today I'm so excited went straight in the bin.
I was on a holiday with friends and they turned on the TV. I still don't miss broadcast TV. I'm glad I have RUclips on my phone 🙂
It is awful isn't it ? 😊
Why does the letter read ‘that means’, it’s nothing to do with the sentence before it!
Jon on the BBC license page they ask you 6 questions one of which is 'Do you or does anyone in your household ever watch TV on any channel?' and they list as examples ITV, 5, Channel 4, BBC and Dave. They don't separate BBC from these other channels and they don't use the word 'live'. So if you watch ITV on catchup for example, it implies you need a TV license. They word it so badly. Thank you for your help clarifying this.
I refuse to tell them as it's none of their business if I don't want their services....its only their business if I do
Got mine in today's post
It states :
Can apply for a search warrant to access your property
Can interview you under caution in accordance with national criminal law
Can they ?? Surely not
Only if you let them. I can interview anybody I want under caution. It's meaningless
I remember the fake detector vans from the 70s.
To avoid further investigation you must do one of the following.
If you do not need a licence then they will continue to investigate.
'Investigation' means a letter.
I've had letters for 5 years 😂 visited 3 times 🍷 still not paying the licence or giving the big BBC my details 😵💫😵💫😵💫
@@JB-oo7cv OK, but do you legally need a licence?
And make sure you're not on the Open Register on the Electoral Roll, else the buggers can get a name other than "The Legal Occupier"
I informed them of my 'no need for a license' if they can't keep accurate records for more than 24 months, then, at their expense, they can send someone round to hear the same thing.
Put we don't watch the BBC on the door.
Did you do a no gun licence required as well? Declaring you don't do something...think about it. It's Ridiculous.
but it's not their money its the people who pay the license fee's money
@ChilliJonCarne I just had one that says "Be prepared for this investigation to lead to prosecution". Within 2 days I was leaving the house and an Officer pounced on me and handed me some piece of paper. Then started asking me questions to which I didn't reply. Then he said "Are you accepting that then?" so I gave him back his piece of paper and left. ON MY MOBILITY SCOOTER. Honestly just wish these people would eff off. I don't support paedophiles.
So looking forward to a visit!
I invited them in and made them a cup of tea with biscuits and watch eastenders together with no TV licence..
Hahahahahaha 😂
Is anything ever 99%?
It’s just what people say when they are lying 🤥
Remember video it. And keep it basic hello who are you. TV licencing . No thanks and shut door. Chilliejoncarne will love a copy
Just tell them your name is 'Columbo' and you are waiting for the TV Detector van to come around.....
I received this at my old property and my new property. My new property had only finished being built in January yet they were writing to the address from may last year.
I suspect they have an arrangement with Royal Mail that they will supply them with new build addresses to investigate.
A few years ago I moved had a licence rang them up to tell the I moved few weeks later received a letter saying no tv licence for this address,rang them up to tell them I’d told them I’d previously rang up their answer it’s a different department wtf
The only time your attention is legally 'required' is by a serving police officer or a member of the judiciary.
Dear sir or madam? How DARE you misgender me! I'm a Norwegian Blue Parrot!
Mine arrived yesterday…again 😂
I've had a few of those letters. Received one in January telling me an investigation has been opened 😏
I live in Australia where there is no TV licence at all. I love your videos because you essentially
stick it to the man. Keep on educating the British public.
TV licence? What a stupid concept.
Keep up the good fight.
I have had 36 letters in the last three and a half years, I had one the same as this in April 2021
Did you ever address if Capita enforcement record people on using the hand-held device or is it just coincidence its always pointed at the person answering the door.
Has anyone requested the data recorded by it ?
Yet they still have an issue with us mere peons recording them and them claiming that recording them is somehow illegal and against their rights, hmm I think a letter to the local council is in order over the CCTV system they operate 🤔😂
One thing I dont think you have covered is why if you choose to pay monthly you pay alot more for a years fee.The BBC are not a lending house so no need to put interest on a fee.
They probably call it a 'handling fee'.
The answer is simple don't open the door.
Maybe if they included a self addressed envelope people would be more inclined to reply,
Stamps are expensive so I won’t be spending money to reply.
you have my attention, master....
Bollocks to 'em!
Don’t beat about the bush. What do you REALLY think?
great work, chil
Surely the wording of these letters breaches Public. order or demanding money by menace? Has anyone actually asked if the letters constitute threatening behaviour
I dont open these letters, straight in the recycling box
I'm kind of hoping for a visit, I might be cleaning and sharpening one of my copies of medieval weapons at the time, or be butt naked, or both!! 😂🤣
Pro tip: they addressed a letter to your “NAME” in all capital letters. That is a legal fiction. That is not you. You can truthfully say to anyone who asks you, “Is this you?” that it is NOT you. If an “official” (corporate term) asks, “What is your name?”, remember that they knocked on YOUR door. If they don’t already know who you are, then you sure don’t need to tell them. Learn the difference between legal and law….
Personally I think tarring and feathering the Goon and tying it to a lamp post ought to suffice.
If they wrote to a named person surely everyone who got that letter could take a group action against them for threatening and lying!
Maybe why they do it this way 😊
Did it 2yr ago letters started again January. Cost me a phone call £3 approx to declare not needed last time.Why should I bother,I've got more important things to worry about right now.
I let my licence run out, 3 years ago, and did NOT renew. I did email BBC complaints to inform them why (and it wasn't pretty) and told them in that email that I was cancelling. I did NOT declare my cancellation officially, as I wanted no further contact with them. Have been getting a letter every month since. Where do I stand now?
Sky tv grasses you up and also when buying a new television. Also, having a teen that rushes to the door and starts conversation giving details is also not good. I've been fined in the past.
Watching from Borneo. Ohhhh ! I don’t have a TV licence. My local Post Office assures me that I don’t need one?
Don't need a licence. Get a letter every couple of months without fail (set light to the last one) I just tell them to go away and refuse to answer questions apparently I've been under investigation for the last 5 years lol.
They seem to come in 3, polite but blunt, very blunt, then the third one in red letters THREATENING!
i had a letter from them this morning...in a bright red envelope!
I’ve had a few of those. They look very Christmassy.
I can imagine the author of these letters watching your video's and thinks I wonder if I change this word for that word and push the boundaries how long it will take chilliejoncarne to rip it apart 😂😂😂😂
I bet they have a competition internally, and they change the letters to see which ones end up on this channel.
One thing is sure. You can bet that they have these letters checked and double checked by their lawyers to ensure they are legal and above board. That's why the letters have never been challenged in court, because all lawyers will know this and advise against challenging them.
Just tell them you can't possibly talk to them as you're in a very important meeting it's what we get from them.you're on automatic lists which seem to last for life once you're on it. If the name on the letter is fake surely that's misinformed reporting.
Just received one of those this morning 😂
I’ve just got a red envelope final notice one. It’s going on the fire later.
Jon, I received another letter yesterday. I was in a bit of a silly naughty mood so I phoned them up to make a no deeded declaration. All our letters are signed by a fictitious Mr Scott Robson of Guildford. In order to submit the declaration on their system they required a name....... Scott Robson. I can't wait to get the next letter to Scott Robson from Scott Robson. Should make a bit of a laugh. Or have I been stupid ? I was in a silly stupid naughty mood yesterday.
I’m going to do the same 😂
I told them my name was Scot chegg
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I've never had a visit and have done 2 decelerations. My house is now in a no cold call zone so I'm pretty sure they can't come round.i do however do the deceleration in my old name as that person no longer exists.
Note that they want you to write to them but Never enclose a self addressed or freepost envelope.
I don't have a licence and I will not write back to them at my expense.
Keep the threats coming, 5½ years since the first and still nothing.
Just post without stamp it cost them at least double the postage to be able to receive the letter at no cost to you
RUclips should try this approach with their subscription service.
I forgot to add that I put their letters back in the post box marked unsolicited mail return to sender & get this address off your mailing list now.
It's not against the law it's against legislation
In southern Ireland, you need a TV licence for their state channel RTE. But rte also has Adverts, and it costs €160 a year and is policed with goons like here. So I guess things could be worse.
Try using the website.
It asks a list of questions.
Unless it's changed one question was do you watch live broadcast including RUclips.
Well unless it a mainstream TV Live stream you don't need a licence.
But many of the questions make it look like you do.
I might unleash ChatGPT to reply to my next letter. Nonsense needs a silly reply.
How dare they assume my gender as Male or female!!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬
I`m not a fast learner - `never have been. But even I have managed to figure out the meanings of the big red letters - and that I`d need a TV License under the conditions stipulated in the letter.
No, ChilliJonCarne, I do not have to tell TV Licensing every two years that I don`t need a TV License. How have you slipped up on such an elementary point of law ?
My license is due to be renewed at the end of this month and I don't want to renew but I'm a bit worried as they have my name so they know our property is occupied. I did think of sending the letter back to them with "not known at this address' on envelope but worried that will guarantee me a visit from a goon.
How do they know you know you still there, you may have moved the day after you bought your last licence, you tv may have been dmg beyond repair and forgot to get a refund
If after a period of not needing a licence then a change in circumstance requires one do the BBC try to bill you from the expiry of the last known licence or from the date of application for the new one.
You don't need one for anything.
You would be charged from the date you declare you need one
Had several of these over past 12 months, made good fire lighters in the cold snap.
Keep the vids coming mate I love them👍
Gangsta Letters PMSL they must spend a shit load of money on letters and paper since this began of the dawn of the television, imagine the cost??? when people just throw them in the bin (thats so funny just thinkin about it)
It would be better printed on soft toilet tissue a least it useful
BBC at it again, they have a choice of airing either Ukrainian troubles or world book day . They chose world book day ? WTF are they doing
How do they get away with these threatening Letters ?
I don't open them....straight In the bin😅😅😅
Mr Carne, if you haven't seen it, you should watch Jim Broadbent as your spritual grandfather fighting TV licensing in the 1960s in the film "The Duke". The fight is now over 60 years old!
Just to say I have done the declaration for about 10 years now, but never had a visit. Mind you I moved into a house with my new wife and because she was registered as living at the house and then I moved in after getting married the TV licence people seem to think we now both need to declare we do not need a licence. So I have to do this twice every 2 yrs. Which I welcome and enjoy having to do twice. (Big smiley face of sarcasm)
I've got letter like this,but I don't use TV except watching Netflix and You Tube,now what should I do?
I don't like got letter anymore