9 years in union I gave up everything after telling me to leave the house. I requested 3 days to find a rental place, got it and moved out. Till today 5 years without talking to him and I don't have interest in talking to him, He tried to reach out but I wanted peace n wanted to heal mentally physically n emotionally. Free n fearless. Materials will kill you.
Mine took 5 months.. Ileft to start a fresh. Was not willing to die over stress of bitter man who fucked up and not taking accountability because of his pride. I acquired even more now by myself. It's been 12 years now.. I don't regret it. I m at peace and genuinely happy.
Hopefully you did go dissolve it legally. If he took out lobola, and there are photos and witnesses who can stand for him.... He has claim on your assets
It took us a year simply because of pride and resistance from him and eventually I gave in because I saw I was drained. It’s important to have a job as a woman….. that sense of independency will comfort you when there is unnecessary fights.
Can we talk about why they divorcing though? The guy made babies outside of the marriage allegedly... The lady says she paused her career to build with him and take care of the home. I believe she did marry for love but I understand why she is not letting it go. She had to play housewife while he propelled his career. I also wouldn't let it go...
Its easier to let go if you didn't sacrifice your career for partner's career to boom. Enhle Mbali 's Career took a back sit and she has to let the millions go again haaaaaa neva
I don't know much about her career but her husband's one was already taking off. 1. Did he ask her to stop working? If yes she should have had it in writing but when you are in love 🙄 2. We must normalise independence as women because life happens, if it wasn't divorce it could have been something else 3. When things were great she should have started something on the side instead of buying designer bags If I was in her shoes I'd ask for child maintenance, paid off house and car, the rest will hustle for myself
Let us teach those who are coming before us to really consider the real danger of money in a union. Love seems to take a backseat on many instances. Love is not as important in a relationship before Leadership Development.
I know umlungu who was going through a divorce and the divorce lasted over 10 years cause husband was hiding assets. Men will frustrate you to giving up during the divorce process.
I walked away with items of furniture he decided to give me, am still the bondholder and my PEACE. My safety was paramount - I have capacity to start over. Looking forward to my release!
Hey I was at black coffee's traditional marriage, please please they must not do that to her.mxm there at white city oh no man . The way I love , loved black coffee. Mxm
What you are saying is proof enough. All the guests and yourself can stand as witnesses. As long as the celebration took place, the lobola was paid and recorded in that lobola book that families keep, that's more than enough. It means they were married in community of property because the law now recognizes traditional marriages as such, unless a pre-nup or ante-nup was signed.
@@SibsM93so a celebration is a legal marriage? I'm just asking if someone doesn't pay lobola and just have a celebration is it a marriage? It's an honest question
My beautiful panel, Mbali doesn't need pictures if there is a letter to prove that there were lobola negotiations that took place and concluded. That is customary marriage and also the fact that they are fighting could be that they didn't sign an antenuptial contract, so their assets are joined together.
I think the issue here is, if they didn't marry the traditional wedding, it would mean that when they did the white wedding and Mbali signed the prenup shes not entitled to half of her exes richness... so if she got married traditional before she signed, it means it's community of property and she deserves every cent.
I think I saw a picture of their traditional wedding, tho or lobola...but then lobola is considered a wedding also..not sure.. It's very very old pic I think. She was still small then. On pinterest.
Proof is that letter that is sent to request the hand in marriage of the woman, under customary law 😂😂😂 And also proof is the witnesses who were there to confirm the ceremony indeed took place and both families celebrated the agreement 😂😂
I've been separated since 2018. Still legally married. I don't want anything. I've been begging for his address. To this day, uyala moguy😂. I suggested we both meet at court, he never showed up. But I'm devicing other plans.
After God fear men. They will advocate for women to build with men, once uve done that and you decide to leave coz they have been mistreating you then they want to keep everything away from you. This is really a form of abuse. Its so weird how men expect women to stay in marriage with them whilst they are in extra-marital relationships and when you save yourself from that heartache and humiliation then they get bitter and want to make you suffer even more😢 they dont even feel remorse and just give you what you want as at least compensations for the emotional suffering you endured😢
There is no need for a divorce coz in a spiritual world you will still be part of that family. Just do it like DJ Tira and wife, they are a married couple with indivudual lives. Uma efeba feba nawe. Be an individual person.
I might be wrong but I think the issue is they signed a prenup before the white wedding. Under the terms of the prenup Enhle gets around 4 million. Enhle is arguing that the prenup is not valid because although it was signed before the white wedding, the traditional marriage (including lobola) had already taken place. Since SA recognizes traditional marriages, according to the law the prenup should have been signed before lobola, not after. So Enhle is right, she is entitled to 50% not just 4 million. Now Black Coffee is trying to deny that the lobola had already taken place, hence the request for her to prove it.
You do have to prove the marriage of one party is contesting the divorce decree by arguing the marriage was a fallacy so they rather apply for null and void coz a divorce decree will guarantee the division of asserts .
Ndivhu is right if your a woman who’s not that much monied , you will fight more for the money … Yes a woman with money can still fight too but it becomes worthless when you see you can sustain yourself.
My God was easier on me because when he decided to leave and divorce ,God brought madam speaker via RUclips and Sarah Jakes ,seeing them madam speaker open about her divorce gave me peace and Sarah after divorce her life is the way it is ,I was assured that my God works on mysterious ways.wish people can just accept and start all over .
BlackCoffee never loved Mbali shem. I can fo anything my partner finds nothing but once we have kids i feel i will respect the person differently even in disagreements
Coffee is just being bitter she left that marriage and filed for divorce…. In his narcissistic brain he’s playing “how dare she leave me”. He thought by now she would’ve wanted him back and beg him to reconcile😂😂😂😂😂 His lawyers are making money through him and delaying this divorce because there’s money in it. They always do this.
I dnt think its PRIDE... its the properties n money we work hard for n the ex wife wants to take half of it n go n enjoy it with other men... and wen u r my ex i dnt wish u the best so i wil make sure u get nothing so u can suffer n regret breaking up with me
Wow what was that woman doing while you where working taking a care of you cooking for you washing dor you cleaning after you taking care of the children it's alot
@@dineomaupa4365 i am not divorced... i am talking from wat i hv kinda seen in men who r divorced... a lot more men lately r scared to marry coz divorce favours the women wen it comes to dividing property n money... i knw a girl who has bn fighting to get divorced for 5 yrs now
@@busisiwemichelle5391 she was working for her own money... by the way i m not divorced so i hv never gone thrpugh any of tht... i think this subject needed real divorcees... no ppl who hvnt gone through it.. i hv seen divorced men in depression.. n its all about possessions n money
9 years in union I gave up everything after telling me to leave the house. I requested 3 days to find a rental place, got it and moved out. Till today 5 years without talking to him and I don't have interest in talking to him, He tried to reach out but I wanted peace n wanted to heal mentally physically n emotionally. Free n fearless. Materials will kill you.
Make sure you dissolve that marriage legally otherwise should you die first he will have a claim to your estate
Mine took 5 months.. Ileft to start a fresh. Was not willing to die over stress of bitter man who fucked up and not taking accountability because of his pride. I acquired even more now by myself. It's been 12 years now.. I don't regret it. I m at peace and genuinely happy.
Hopefully you did go dissolve it legally. If he took out lobola, and there are photos and witnesses who can stand for him.... He has claim on your assets
"It's a business transaction" Madam speaker spoke truth and only truth
It took us a year simply because of pride and resistance from him and eventually I gave in because I saw I was drained. It’s important to have a job as a woman….. that sense of independency will comfort you when there is unnecessary fights.
That stunt was just his attorneys trying to prolong this to make more money nje😮
Can we talk about why they divorcing though? The guy made babies outside of the marriage allegedly... The lady says she paused her career to build with him and take care of the home. I believe she did marry for love but I understand why she is not letting it go. She had to play housewife while he propelled his career. I also wouldn't let it go...
True 😢
We must have Pastor Bae again 😂 it's good to have a man's perspective on these issues.
My divorce process is going into the 4th year. Because the guy wants to take everything. And yet he did not contribute anything.
Yoh sorry sis❤
Is it possible to transfer your assets to your trusted relative so long?
@@ZOE_NtombiYaseMancwabeni its considered concealing assets...and it will actually work against
@Reshebile oh my yooooh. I'm so scared of marriage now 😫
@@ZOE_NtombiYaseMancwabeni Honestly I just wish that we women would stop idolising men and marriages.
I genuinely feel for Mbali but hey her strength is impacable... Nna I would have left it yhoooo
It depends one who does not have much to lose will not give up.
most of divorces are not the same my sister so it's true it depends really🤞🏽
They did have traditional weddings. You can Google Enhle Mbali Mlotshwa's traditional wedding 💑.
Its easier to let go if you didn't sacrifice your career for partner's career to boom. Enhle Mbali 's Career took a back sit and she has to let the millions go again haaaaaa neva
Black coffee was already doing good for himself before she even was there.. She just jeaous and greedy coz of being broke
I don't know much about her career but her husband's one was already taking off.
1. Did he ask her to stop working? If yes she should have had it in writing but when you are in love 🙄
2. We must normalise independence as women because life happens, if it wasn't divorce it could have been something else
3. When things were great she should have started something on the side instead of buying designer bags
If I was in her shoes I'd ask for child maintenance, paid off house and car, the rest will hustle for myself
This is BS she was on a over 8 productions during the time they were married I don't get this narrative, a quick google search will do a lot for you.
@@beebabe5606so true
Ayikho lento yakho 😂😂😂hlalani eqinisweni bakithi
Money is the problem here
Let us teach those who are coming before us to really consider the real danger of money in a union. Love seems to take a backseat on many instances. Love is not as important in a relationship before Leadership Development.
I know umlungu who was going through a divorce and the divorce lasted over 10 years cause husband was hiding assets. Men will frustrate you to giving up during the divorce process.
I’ll never get married 🤞🏽🤞🏽
I walked away with items of furniture he decided to give me, am still the bondholder and my PEACE. My safety was paramount - I have capacity to start over. Looking forward to my release!
Hey I was at black coffee's traditional marriage, please please they must not do that to her.mxm there at white city oh no man . The way I love , loved black coffee. Mxm
Izindaba zabantu😢
What you are saying is proof enough. All the guests and yourself can stand as witnesses. As long as the celebration took place, the lobola was paid and recorded in that lobola book that families keep, that's more than enough. It means they were married in community of property because the law now recognizes traditional marriages as such, unless a pre-nup or ante-nup was signed.
@@SibsM93so a celebration is a legal marriage? I'm just asking if someone doesn't pay lobola and just have a celebration is it a marriage? It's an honest question
Get intouch with her mos n go there to court and tell them ah ah
@@thobekiledlamini a celebration after lobola. I don't think there's anyone who does a traditional wedding without lobola.
Marriage is a business transaction. She should fight for what is rightfully hers
Even if the estate to be divided is massive, what is important to consider is what is enough for you.
Morning my darlings she must give up everything an God will fight for her this are metireal thing of this world
Material
She has kids! She has kids!
This is sad😢😢
To much its painful 😢
My beautiful panel, Mbali doesn't need pictures if there is a letter to prove that there were lobola negotiations that took place and concluded. That is customary marriage and also the fact that they are fighting could be that they didn't sign an antenuptial contract, so their assets are joined together.
True,Coffee wants to frustrate her,his spiteful
He’s just doing it to frustrate her. It’s a mental game. He had a radio interview not long ago talking about his marriage.
I think the issue here is, if they didn't marry the traditional wedding, it would mean that when they did the white wedding and Mbali signed the prenup shes not entitled to half of her exes richness... so if she got married traditional before she signed, it means it's community of property and she deserves every cent.
I think I saw a picture of their traditional wedding, tho or lobola...but then lobola is considered a wedding also..not sure.. It's very very old pic I think. She was still small then. On pinterest.
@ZOE_NtombiYaseMancwabeni yep there is lol la bhuti is just playing dumb.
There is no force
Kindness and peace is needed, with peace there is always a wayout, unless they still love each other, u always fight for what u care abt
She NEVER said "Men are trash", don't put words in her mouth. Her exact words were "After God, fear SOME men".
Proof is that letter that is sent to request the hand in marriage of the woman, under customary law 😂😂😂
And also proof is the witnesses who were there to confirm the ceremony indeed took place and both families celebrated the agreement 😂😂
The man is trying to shame and humiliate her.. if I were her ( Mbali ) I would have walked away peacefully by now
Marriage is a contract. Divorce is a lawsuit
😂😂😂😂🤣Yooh I don’t know who said this but killed me muguy regretted going to home affairs
I've been separated since 2018. Still legally married. I don't want anything. I've been begging for his address. To this day, uyala moguy😂. I suggested we both meet at court, he never showed up. But I'm devicing other plans.
I agree with pastor Bae on woman part
Who is this man?
We need him always
After God fear men. They will advocate for women to build with men, once uve done that and you decide to leave coz they have been mistreating you then they want to keep everything away from you. This is really a form of abuse. Its so weird how men expect women to stay in marriage with them whilst they are in extra-marital relationships and when you save yourself from that heartache and humiliation then they get bitter and want to make you suffer even more😢 they dont even feel remorse and just give you what you want as at least compensations for the emotional suffering you endured😢
Ndiivu T and Bae
There is no need for a divorce coz in a spiritual world you will still be part of that family. Just do it like DJ Tira and wife, they are a married couple with indivudual lives. Uma efeba feba nawe. Be an individual person.
What causes you to be spiritually in the family after divorce?
Are they questioning the marriage regime not so much whether he was married but more how he was married?
I might be wrong but I think the issue is they signed a prenup before the white wedding. Under the terms of the prenup Enhle gets around 4 million. Enhle is arguing that the prenup is not valid because although it was signed before the white wedding, the traditional marriage (including lobola) had already taken place. Since SA recognizes traditional marriages, according to the law the prenup should have been signed before lobola, not after. So Enhle is right, she is entitled to 50% not just 4 million. Now Black Coffee is trying to deny that the lobola had already taken place, hence the request for her to prove it.
They both have pride😂
You do have to prove the marriage of one party is contesting the divorce decree by arguing the marriage was a fallacy so they rather apply for null and void coz a divorce decree will guarantee the division of asserts .
I gave up everything and only left with my clothes - the best decision I've ever made.
"just say uhm" 🤣🤣🤣
Ndivhu is right if your a woman who’s not that much monied , you will fight more for the money … Yes a woman with money can still fight too but it becomes worthless when you see you can sustain yourself.
True
My God was easier on me because when he decided to leave and divorce ,God brought madam speaker via RUclips and Sarah Jakes ,seeing them madam speaker open about her divorce gave me peace and Sarah after divorce her life is the way it is ,I was assured that my God works on mysterious ways.wish people can just accept and start all over .
Also fear their money
BlackCoffee never loved Mbali shem. I can fo anything my partner finds nothing but once we have kids i feel i will respect the person differently even in disagreements
Jolang before you sign simple. Vat n sit then marry
Mbali once demanded huge amount for kids maintenance
As she should
Coffee is just being bitter she left that marriage and filed for divorce…. In his narcissistic brain he’s playing “how dare she leave me”. He thought by now she would’ve wanted him back and beg him to reconcile😂😂😂😂😂
His lawyers are making money through him and delaying this divorce because there’s money in it. They always do this.
Coffee filed for divorce. He left.
Be
I dnt think its PRIDE... its the properties n money we work hard for n the ex wife wants to take half of it n go n enjoy it with other men... and wen u r my ex i dnt wish u the best so i wil make sure u get nothing so u can suffer n regret breaking up with me
The rich that you acquired in my presence.
Wow what was that woman doing while you where working taking a care of you cooking for you washing dor you cleaning after you taking care of the children it's alot
@@dineomaupa4365 i am not divorced... i am talking from wat i hv kinda seen in men who r divorced... a lot more men lately r scared to marry coz divorce favours the women wen it comes to dividing property n money... i knw a girl who has bn fighting to get divorced for 5 yrs now
@@busisiwemichelle5391 she was working for her own money... by the way i m not divorced so i hv never gone thrpugh any of tht... i think this subject needed real divorcees... no ppl who hvnt gone through it.. i hv seen divorced men in depression.. n its all about possessions n money