Shogun | Lord Ishido | Toranaga announced Crimson Sky | 4K
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
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This story deviates from the book a little bit. The former ruler, the Taiko, never got any of his consorts pregnant. He was probably sterile. Ochiba, in the book, happened upon a farmer that looked exactly like him and pillowed with him. The "Heir" is just some random farmer's kid and she kept it secret from everyone. The "bitter herbs" explanation is kinda weird I think. I liked the books version better.
Bro. It was obvious the taiko is not the father of the heir. Details bro details
She could have made up the bitter herbs thing to sell her story
I took her line about compelling fate to look her way so she could scratch it's eyes out as meaning she cheated fate and got pregnant by a random fertile man, easily a famer lookalike as in the book.
to think his goal all along is to unite the council.
Now that is one creepy woman!
Strange they changed the reason Ochiba hates Toranaga.
What was the original reason??
In the book, she was desperate to conceive, so she knocked boots with a peasant she randomly found in a forest while on a hunt, and believed that Toranaga saw her do it.
Well it'd be game over for her if she said that to ishido
The remake didn't spend as much time on the backstory and motivations of secondary characters.
While the new show doesn't neccessarily give you "false" information, it also doesn't give the audience enough information to know when a character is lying...which is what Lady Ochiba did when she was talking to Ishido.
It's essentially her cover story to keep her son "legitimate" and alive.
Since that part was left out of the story, the authors had to make some adjustments.
Ishido was never in the council.
Fuji sama dying soon
The book, the book, the book, who cares?!
The people talking about it care obviously
When you take a famous novel and put it on the big screen, it probably shouldn't be a surprise that people who liked the book care.
@@hans-christianbauer5947 Thank you for responding a rhetorical question.
@@MrCounsel Anytime ;)
The color palette of this "work" is simply terrible.
Makes one appreciate the 80s mini-series even more...
Not in my opinion (which, I hasten to add, doesn’t count for anything more than yours, though I’m a photographer). The original miniseries, for all its sumptuous detail and being shot on location, looks exactly like what it is: a piece of Seventies television, with its flat lighting and nondescript compositions. This looks like a movie.
@@michaelhall2709 That's a fair opinion. I definitively can agree that this looks like a typical contemporary movie. I - as a "customer" - just do not find that appealing and worth my time. Even less the streaming fees.
And I have generally come to appreciate pieces of 70s TV and cinema that I would have considered "cheap" in the past more and more.
With much less, movie makers in the olden times were able to achieve more impressive results. Besides all the obvious imperfection. Call it wabi-sabi... 😉
But yea, that's MY - negative -opinion and I definitively not intend to denigrate you or anybody else's positive opinion here.
@@martinfiedler4317 And I didn’t take it that way. De gustibus non disputandum est (or, it’s just rock ‘n roll, man). Peace.
@@michaelhall2709 Definitively peace 🙂
@@michaelhall2709 It looks like a movie that was shot with never a sunny day in it. Sure, the old shows its age, but it also gave credit to the beauty of Japan in contrast to the dark times it was going through.
Don't get me wrong; the new show is pretty incredible, but "modern" cinematography doesn't become better or more compelling because you put a grey filter over everything. A bit more colour wouldn't have been a bad thing.