Exactly. This is the point with these types. They know they're wrong and their other side is right, so their goal is to just get a draw, not an outright win. A draw between someone who is right and someone who is wrong is essentially a victory for the one who is wrong. So all they have to do is make the whole situation so messy and chaotic that you're physically not able to get a word in and provide the proof that they themselves know would prove them wrong.
They're walking, talking logical fallcies. I've got 2 close friends of this type, and I could literally have a 4 hour conversation with their non-defintions and circular reasoning. And gain 0 new info.
as a sleep first personality, this is why i avoid play situation (my last animal) because even in casual/socializing settings it can so easily turn into a superficial exchange of bad (or truth-deficient) information to which there is no time nor opportunity to correct, and to think that some ppl will walk away and actually act or make a decision off of that garbage. yet if they don't bother to consume in order to support their own personal decisions, i suppose they will reap what they sow. however, there is often innocents involved which makes it all the more unsettling. however there are play experiences that can be quite positive, when every person brings their best to the table and in those situations i do see benefit and can also personally walk away feeling appreciative (albeit exhausted)
He might be a sex trafficker, what's wrong with that, all that was displayed is not opinion, it's factual observation of patterns. It's obvious nothing is achieved with those patterns of trying to "own" a perceived opponent. That's all that's been shown here, I don't get where you're coming from.
I think I saw somewhere that he was exonerated, these guys try to expand their theories to poltics but they aren't well informed and they liberals. Cool theory but they don't know what they are talking about here. The video talking about Schiff's report, that guy is the one who lied about the Russia hoax and I bet they don't care. They might try him now or Pelossi but they lean left, they won't be fair and they don't care they are in play stuff, being silly, and in f you mode whatever they call whaat they do on videos. They are just being nasty and biased. At the end I hear Gaetz complaining about the last 2 democrat administrations and calling out what was the weakness of each party towards military. That doesn't sound like nonsense, there is logic behind his points which are maga points. He may be loud and confrontational in his style but it is not like he is trying to pull out a Derren Brown necessarilly as they are trying to portray, facts are important and to have perspective, they are being disingenious.
Just made a 10 minute research and the nice lady librarian was a "constitutional expert" consulted regarding Trumo impeachment when the Zelensky call. And she made a comment out of place with anger towards Trump using his son's 13 year old name as the punchline that was why she was questioned bu Gaetz durint impeachment hearings since she was already having an anti Trump stance in her judgement, meaning it was personal, she was also questioned about going to a program where she made comments about liberals and conservstives which the name of the show had something about no Trump in it. He was remarking how biased they were and then he asked if someone had any proof of any of what was in that guy Schiff's report and they don't have the facts in their end that is why no one did. It is however not like he was talking in chinese or asking for crazy address to steal a wallet. It was a defense for president Trump during his impeachment trials in order to call them out on a witch hunt. So these clowns and they know they are, they are just pretending that he is just making noise with nonsense. In this one they are most likely the ones who are trying to distract.
The literal “fast talker”. Works as a strategy for snake oil salesmen, who apply emotional pressure to make a quick decision (They sell the snake oil, then flee). Less effective when people can take time to evaluate what was said. Need to continually bombarde the other with a torrent of words - keep them from accessing Sleep energy during word-free pauses.
Something to note with how Matt is attacking people in these hearings or whatever: despite having Fe at the top, his attacks are arguably coming from his masculine Ti (and Se): "your facts are inconsistent and don't hold together logically, according to The Truth" (which is actually very subjective and sometimes sloppy internal logic).
Omg, not proud of this, very ashamed but I definitely see how I used to do this in fights with friends. Yikes. It really is throwing mud- I'd wake up later realizing that nothing I said had actually made any sense. Once I got a mattress thrown at me 😂😂 and rightfully so. Another great video.
It helps if you break the human need from the functions. So it's not Se or Si, they're both the same- Sensory. What then separates them is the human need applied to Sensory. One is Gather (Se) and one is Organize (Si). Hope this helps 😊
@Owlsworthy thank you 😊. I know this and I struggle to really separate Se and Si farther than different vibe or light evidence with specifically xx Se/Ti CS/B(P) types (find examples on subjective personally analyzer). I see sensory but organize and gather I struggling to see, and these types have sleep second so they're using thier Ni and I think that's confusing it most😵💫
Scenarios where politicians are asking questions at hearings is the not the best time to analize. Questioners like Matt and Ted Cruz are under time restraints and so to have to rush all questions. Second its also a common tactic for those answering questions to not actually answer the questions but instead drag out the clock so the questioner like Matt runs out of time. Its not a normal discussion situation. Questioners always look like dicks.
It’s impossible for Gaetz to have a constructive exchange cause is a toxic narcissist. Those three patterns and the pictures are the perfect exemple. Me, me, me…and my fragile ego!
Three things a lot of people who debate or argue miss is social influence, sales, and rhetoric.😅It's not just about facts and reason or logic. Especially when dealing with a particularly egoic person.
my entp family member does this. Bait a fact from someone out of context, repeat that baited fact again and again, then establish it as PURE FACT, then pull in his evidence and reasonings as to why its PURE EVIL you have DONE A DAMNED THING, then scream and yell you out of the room.
They aren't really talking about what he's saying but rather how he does it. It's not about politics or whatever (although they do have a knack for picking "controversial" people to type and talk about), but I do agree with it being dangerous and just looking from the perspective of this channel at what he is saying. It's not the whole truth.
I love Matt Gaetz. I can see both sides but they are highlighting the functions (which this clarified much for me) ((puttibg myself in their shoes -dave and shan- recognizing their politics)). I disagree with their conclusions politically which isnt the point of this video but their assessment is completely valid. Focusing on the point of the video Fe/Se, this video is LITERALLY jam packed full of stubstance from beginning to end and it doesn't just focus of Gaetz (notice the mentioning of Darren Brown as well) ((notice the Se mention of selfies -being visable to the tribe "Matt Gaetz, the tribe can see you!")) Anywhoozies, this channel is not political analysis, its personality analysis. Normally I would encourage a solution to a criticism or personal gripe, but in this context I doubt anyone would care and no one ain't got time for that....respectfully.
😂 that's it, Joe, keep clinging on to that stranglehold you have on your perspective. Clearly they're the ones who are confused and "don't understand." You got this! Criticism and analysis is scary stuff, so continue to avoid it at all costs. The alternative would most likely involve a personal crisis for you that spills out on everyone else, and Lord knows we've all had enough of that. We're all happy to wait on your courage to see scary stuff.
Instead of answering i'd just ask him for his opinion first then I'd build my case arouns their story not the other way around ... obvs he ain't listening so... make him look stupid instead 🫡 that's if he's wrong...
Gaetz isn't even getting his point across. He's just getting everyone else to stop bothering.
Exactly. This is the point with these types. They know they're wrong and their other side is right, so their goal is to just get a draw, not an outright win. A draw between someone who is right and someone who is wrong is essentially a victory for the one who is wrong. So all they have to do is make the whole situation so messy and chaotic that you're physically not able to get a word in and provide the proof that they themselves know would prove them wrong.
Wake up.
They're walking, talking logical fallcies. I've got 2 close friends of this type, and I could literally have a 4 hour conversation with their non-defintions and circular reasoning. And gain 0 new info.
The hamster wheel seems to be going around a lot these days.
I don't believe you, they're info-doms after all.
as a sleep first personality, this is why i avoid play situation (my last animal) because even in casual/socializing settings it can so easily turn into a superficial exchange of bad (or truth-deficient) information to which there is no time nor opportunity to correct, and to think that some ppl will walk away and actually act or make a decision off of that garbage. yet if they don't bother to consume in order to support their own personal decisions, i suppose they will reap what they sow. however, there is often innocents involved which makes it all the more unsettling. however there are play experiences that can be quite positive, when every person brings their best to the table and in those situations i do see benefit and can also personally walk away feeling appreciative (albeit exhausted)
Seems like this guy learned his debate tactics from Bed Shapiro. He would be pummeled if the debate was written and he couldn't speak.
What debate tactic? Stick to the point and making you talk about reality? Yeah real "tricky"
The object of defaming another is to exalt self, self-exaltation is behind the practice of noting the shortcomings of others.
"Matt "dueche bag" Gaetz he might be a sex trafficker.... i hate his politics. " love the objectivity
He might be a sex trafficker, what's wrong with that, all that was displayed is not opinion, it's factual observation of patterns. It's obvious nothing is achieved with those patterns of trying to "own" a perceived opponent. That's all that's been shown here, I don't get where you're coming from.
I think I saw somewhere that he was exonerated, these guys try to expand their theories to poltics but they aren't well informed and they liberals. Cool theory but they don't know what they are talking about here. The video talking about Schiff's report, that guy is the one who lied about the Russia hoax and I bet they don't care. They might try him now or Pelossi but they lean left, they won't be fair and they don't care they are in play stuff, being silly, and in f you mode whatever they call whaat they do on videos. They are just being nasty and biased. At the end I hear Gaetz complaining about the last 2 democrat administrations and calling out what was the weakness of each party towards military. That doesn't sound like nonsense, there is logic behind his points which are maga points. He may be loud and confrontational in his style but it is not like he is trying to pull out a Derren Brown necessarilly as they are trying to portray, facts are important and to have perspective, they are being disingenious.
Just made a 10 minute research and the nice lady librarian was a "constitutional expert" consulted regarding Trumo impeachment when the Zelensky call. And she made a comment out of place with anger towards Trump using his son's 13 year old name as the punchline that was why she was questioned bu Gaetz durint impeachment hearings since she was already having an anti Trump stance in her judgement, meaning it was personal, she was also questioned about going to a program where she made comments about liberals and conservstives which the name of the show had something about no Trump in it. He was remarking how biased they were and then he asked if someone had any proof of any of what was in that guy Schiff's report and they don't have the facts in their end that is why no one did. It is however not like he was talking in chinese or asking for crazy address to steal a wallet. It was a defense for president Trump during his impeachment trials in order to call them out on a witch hunt. So these clowns and they know they are, they are just pretending that he is just making noise with nonsense. In this one they are most likely the ones who are trying to distract.
Why is the thumbnail with expressions kind of bait me to click💀 its working
The literal “fast talker”. Works as a strategy for snake oil salesmen, who apply emotional pressure to make a quick decision (They sell the snake oil, then flee). Less effective when people can take time to evaluate what was said. Need to continually bombarde the other with a torrent of words - keep them from accessing Sleep energy during word-free pauses.
Something to note with how Matt is attacking people in these hearings or whatever: despite having Fe at the top, his attacks are arguably coming from his masculine Ti (and Se): "your facts are inconsistent and don't hold together logically, according to The Truth" (which is actually very subjective and sometimes sloppy internal logic).
My response to the quip about hypersonic briefings would be "yes senator, but I don't think you understand them."
Omg, not proud of this, very ashamed but I definitely see how I used to do this in fights with friends. Yikes. It really is throwing mud- I'd wake up later realizing that nothing I said had actually made any sense. Once I got a mattress thrown at me 😂😂 and rightfully so.
Another great video.
Learning so much!
Could you do a video or part of one on Se vs Si when the animal stack is as close to same as possible please?
It helps if you break the human need from the functions. So it's not Se or Si, they're both the same- Sensory. What then separates them is the human need applied to Sensory. One is Gather (Se) and one is Organize (Si). Hope this helps 😊
@Owlsworthy thank you 😊. I know this and I struggle to really separate Se and Si farther than different vibe or light evidence with specifically xx Se/Ti CS/B(P) types (find examples on subjective personally analyzer). I see sensory but organize and gather I struggling to see, and these types have sleep second so they're using thier Ni and I think that's confusing it most😵💫
Scenarios where politicians are asking questions at hearings is the not the best time to analize. Questioners like Matt and Ted Cruz are under time restraints and so to have to rush all questions. Second its also a common tactic for those answering questions to not actually answer the questions but instead drag out the clock so the questioner like Matt runs out of time. Its not a normal discussion situation. Questioners always look like dicks.
he's like that because he's a politician, and politics is dirty
It’s impossible for Gaetz to have a constructive exchange cause is a toxic narcissist. Those three patterns and the pictures are the perfect exemple. Me, me, me…and my fragile ego!
Three things a lot of people who debate or argue miss is social influence, sales, and rhetoric.😅It's not just about facts and reason or logic. Especially when dealing with a particularly egoic person.
True. But facts and logic are the most important component
@@joemwas5442 if only
@@Lacter12 please explain further
@@joemwas5442 if only that was all you needed, people can really abuse rhetoric or be confusing on purpose like this guy in the video
Seems like Fe/Se advocates like "stans"
ENFJs really can be a force to reckon with. I never recommend going against one.
You also can’t play the bulldozer move as well if you don’t have lots of social capital. These guys are empowered by their base.
Now do Biden
Do Epstein next!!
my entp family member does this. Bait a fact from someone out of context, repeat that baited fact again and again, then establish it as PURE FACT, then pull in his evidence and reasonings as to why its PURE EVIL you have DONE A DAMNED THING, then scream and yell you out of the room.
He reminds me of Mark Cuban lol
Same type (ENFJ), but Mark Cuban is Fe/Ni, I believe.
Does Gaetz qualify as clickbait?
"Will Smith, there is definitely a lot of good people of this type..." uhhhhh ;)
Wtf? Why can't she describe what a woman is? She's supposed to be able to..
This channel does not understand what Matt gaetz is saying. Their criticism lacks substance
They aren't really talking about what he's saying but rather how he does it. It's not about politics or whatever (although they do have a knack for picking "controversial" people to type and talk about), but I do agree with it being dangerous and just looking from the perspective of this channel at what he is saying. It's not the whole truth.
It's just personal attacks against Matt gaetz rather than attacking his argument.
Yeah, it’s sneaky.
I love Matt Gaetz. I can see both sides but they are highlighting the functions (which this clarified much for me) ((puttibg myself in their shoes -dave and shan- recognizing their politics)). I disagree with their conclusions politically which isnt the point of this video but their assessment is completely valid. Focusing on the point of the video Fe/Se, this video is LITERALLY jam packed full of stubstance from beginning to end and it doesn't just focus of Gaetz (notice the mentioning of Darren Brown as well) ((notice the Se mention of selfies -being visable to the tribe "Matt Gaetz, the tribe can see you!")) Anywhoozies, this channel is not political analysis, its personality analysis. Normally I would encourage a solution to a criticism or personal gripe, but in this context I doubt anyone would care and no one ain't got time for that....respectfully.
😂 that's it, Joe, keep clinging on to that stranglehold you have on your perspective. Clearly they're the ones who are confused and "don't understand." You got this! Criticism and analysis is scary stuff, so continue to avoid it at all costs. The alternative would most likely involve a personal crisis for you that spills out on everyone else, and Lord knows we've all had enough of that. We're all happy to wait on your courage to see scary stuff.
Your tables wrong it's M Se
Your now lack of FE is on stunning display, regarding this assessment.
Is he an audio or a double feminine
Instead of answering i'd just ask him for his opinion first then I'd build my case arouns their story not the other way around ... obvs he ain't listening so... make him look stupid instead 🫡 that's if he's wrong...
Haven't seen or heard of him before but kinda like him, hopefully he hasn't done what he's being accused of.
Yep, he wins, and humanity loses.
5 yr old women!
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