Biochar Workshop Part 3, The Carbon Cycle
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Watch the whole day of the recent Biochar Workshop led by Bob Wells, soil scientist Jon Nilsson and Patryk Battle. Learn how to make biochar and its many beneficial uses including greatly enhancing soil life and fertility. Discover innovative ways to maximize its uses for dynamically carbon negative farming and gardening.
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Random thought that struck me about using the heat from mobile units: boiling maple sap. I have a reasonably large forest where I need to do a lot of underbrush reduction. Here's what I'm thinking:
1)Establish a number of small woodsheds around the property so that I can easily set wood to start drying as I'm doing forest work. Ideally, these would be located near clusters of tappable maple trees.
2)Store wood over the course of the year (or two for extra drying time, if I used a two-bin system in each woodshed) as I'm doing forestry stuff. Ideally, not having to carry wood more than 100ish feet without getting to a woodshed.
3) Set up maple tapping systems in such a way that the sap gets collected near the woodsheds.
4) During the sugaring season, bring a mobile biochar unit from shed to shed, charring the stored wood and boiling the sap. Neither wood nor sap has to be loved until most of the weight is gone.
That is a fantastic idea, comprehensive.
Gotten around to trying this yet?
Thanks for sharing. I have a question: where can i find the scientific paper linking CO2 with global worming? Cheers.
I love organic fertilizer on my garden as Biochar and reducing CO2 but I'm concerned about the Farm Bill cost and larger Federal, State welfare subsidy monies to farmers that are charging families at the dinner table for another product for farm use.
I am thinking of using flame from wood gas to heat water and run a turbine.
Humans generate CO2 much faster than it can be assimilated or used...there will never be too little CO2 in the atmosphere with humans in such large numbers.
Why isn't the FFA teaching this in their program
64,000 views and only 540 likes....geez people get with the program and hit "like"....this is really good ..!!
Because people don’t really understand. Burning wood is better than letting it rot . People generally don’t believe this true statement.They are taught lies about global warming. They think burning anything is bad. Deforestation should be taught to not do to filter and take co out . The most important thing is dumping in the ocean. Corporate greed is global ,the warming is a farce . But instead they teach not to make co by burning anything. Not general good Stuart practice of the environment that at the end make the world better.
I'm just going to start throwing this out there... Years ago, when my son was a young boy, we loved camping and discussed ideas of all things survival. I spoke about an unknown idea I had of a human waste pit and on each defecation adding a sprinkle of fire ash to deodorise, which would also balance acidic urine. I wondered if, once the small pit is full, straw or hey may be optionally mixed in, top the pit with turf for a time to partially compost the matter, then dig up and shape into blocks which are air dried and used for fire blocks as fuel, and very possibly make great fertiliser for agriculture also! I've always wondered why society doesn't seem to know what to do with it's excrement, other than throw wash it into the water ways??!
They used to use human waste to grow food until the start of the last century. I'd be prepared to give your idea a go with a mind to composting then eventually chucking the whole mess into the ground. Maybe leave it a year then plant food crops in it. Methinks we're way too hygiene obsessed with regards to that sort of shit. Things that get composted usually turn out to be compost. Sounds likely you'd be "loading" the char from the toilet with all sorts of goodies for the soil.
@@desertdrifter7 does this book about what to do about human urine as well
@@ecologiccorporation yes, it does, but it's not the focus. Urine contains far fewer pathogens than humanure so it's less of a risk - Jenkins (the author) recommends you not separate urine and humanure and compost them together. However, if you use a system that isn't open to the ground such as Jenkins's (there is a sealed bottom so liquid will accumulate), you should divert urine to the ground/another system, like with this method: www.omick.net/composting_toilets/barrel_toilet_urine_diversion.htm
@@SofaKingShit they have human compost toilet systems now. Charles Dowding has one he uses the soil for flowers.
Anaerobic Digester= methane production then the affluent is charged with air to change the bacteria from anaerobic to aerobic for soil/plant availability.
Awesome to add Char to compost, so that while the nutrients are being released during the compost process those nutrients are being stored into the Char making it a time released nutrient dense char for your soil to use over years. looking forward to adding this into my compost pile for my raised beds to use.
So far i get charcoal instead of bio char.. and is bio char different from activated charcoal?
@@cherriemckinstry131 you're supposed to get charcoal, you take the charcoal and soak it in worm tea,or throw it in your compost pile so it can absorb the nutrients, it then becomes bio char...
It should be BIOCHAR right ? Why charcoal @@carlprice64
I can't thank you enough for these incredible video. So amazing to see that people like you still exist.
These technology could help Africa to grow more food.. thank you and God bless.
The key to all this starts at 14:53 where he talks about "loading" the biochar with nutrients, microbes and fungus BEFORE putting into the ground where the crop will be planted; OR plant a nitrogen fixing /dynamic enhancing cover crop for the first year. This way the biochar isn't sucking up all the good stuff that the crop needs in the first year causing a failed crop.
Yeah that's a key point, another key point which is almost never mentioned - biochar isn't meant to make your soil as good as pure compost, instead its goal is to transform bad soil into a moderately good one for ages. So all the people who test it against compost are missing the very idea behind biochar.
"Ask me in about 4 years how that worked out"... well... it's been about 4 years now... and it looks like you are still in business! Must be profitable!
eheheh was just watching through minute 34 and thinking the exact same thing, which got me to read a few comments and here you are :D I wonder how Bob Wells would describe the last 6 years in terms of Biochar making and everything that goes on around it
Stirling engines for the excess heat
The biochar operation could be used as a neighborhood heating system. It could generate electricity. It can be used for baking.
This is a mind blowing series of videos - THANK YOU!
I like how you think. They also have methane generation from a compost toilet and composted food, to cook food.
@@cherriemckinstry131 Does compost pile generate methane? How?
Hi, I studied bioremediation as part of my degree a few decades ago. One of the things I looked at the feasibility of distributed power generation fuelled by a woodland that surrounded it. Rather than a massive power station move to a cellular structure of much smaller power stations. We looked at a lot of different factors including an appropriate size woodland to feed the power station. We were trying to find the optimal size to make it carbon neutral. The carbon being released during burning compared to the carbon being taken up by the woodland. I had not heard of bio char at that point but find the idea to be very intriguing with this in mind. Imagine a source, the woodland burnt during biochar production the heat being captured for power generation the char being used to plant replacement trees for fuel and perhaps to capture pollutants in the stacks. I’m meandering a bit but my mind is buzzing a bit, I came to try and figure out a small home system.
Hi, I love the way your mind has guided you to have the 4 points of profit.
What about storing energy in batteries like solar power does.
This has been a great series of videos, but I couldn't help laughing at the beginning of this one. The gent starts talking about the CO2 cycle of being used as plant food, and then being released into the atmosphere with biodegration... and in the next breath calls CO2 a pollutant.
I'm sorry, but CO2 is not a pollutant, as anyone who has studied high school biology should know. Just tell me about how char works without the global warming nonsense please.
Can anyone tell me if the outside barrel could be replaced by a mud structure as in the way iron was smelted centuries ago, and also could the escaping steam power a steam engine to produce electricity and hot water for household use?
+Dogba Bass At a guess, any non flammable container would work. I don't think enough steam would be produced, unless you had a separate water tank, but the hot air could be passed through a house, as long as it's contained, not just loose in the house.
This is a brilliant idea, as bio-char could be made during winter months and the heat could be used to warm you home on cold nights.
Thanks Steve
As I watched the flames coming out from the chimney in the Bio char Worship part 1 I was thinking if you had a line of those chimneys under a tank with water you could produce enough steam to power a steam generator and produce electricity. I have learned that the tank has to made of a certain kind of material to produce enough pressure. Do you have any knowledge of this?
Absolutely no idea how that would work, ha ha!! Let me know, though!
I had thought of the steam thing, But I am too old to get an engineering degree for building a steam generation plant and the boilers license to operate it safely. As I recall one gallon of water when turned to steam under pressure will turn into 1,700 gallons of free steam if suddenly release by a system rupture.
You can use the hydrogen gases released to power a gas operated generator. People during WW2 created wood burning gasifiers to create hydrogen gas to power their vehicles...
64,000 views and only 540 likes....geez people get with the program and hit "like"....this is really good ..!!
38:00 `Carbon Monoxide is actually a very good fuel gas` LOL , no
I think that one of the scariest things that is happening to this date is that our Government is starting to shut this type if small scale farming down. Case in point Google farmer fined 300k for organic growing. I first took interest in this carbon several years ago. Just today saw the first two videos. Richard Attenborough did a segment on this and tied the current farming practices to global warming. He also stated that returning to carbon in the earth will help eradicate this problem. I love these guys.
snake oil was smeared it is gamma linoleic acid an essential fatty acid you can guess who made it a dirty word FYI
I love this channel it’s so ejection
I learn allot
I love to thank everybody how works in this channel
This is so inspiring, I love composting and growing my own food. I'm a high school teacher in Australia and I feel like giving up my regular art teaching job and teaching this to lots of schools. I need to try this myself before I teach it. I've looked everywhere for a 30-gallon drum, i can only find 44-gallon drums here in Melbourne. Are there other designs I can use with a 44-gallon drum? What about old washing machine drums? Is there anyone who can support me with this idea? moral and technical support?
@LivingWebFarms
Hilary Breman i was driving behind a store being renovated this morning and saw large sections of metal duct work from the A/C and i had to stop and scavenge a section of 12”x18” about 4’ long and 2 end caps now i need to find a barrel and a drier vent chimney stack then I’ll be set!
Metal trash cans. Or 5gal pails with a fairly tight lid. Make sure the gases produced can escape. Old wash machine tubs don't seal as is but they might be good as an outer chamber. Size of containers used should remain similar to above design in proportion to one another. Allow the gases produced in heated chamber to escape preferably into the fired area in controlled manner. I'm not an expert so follow this fellow's design closely but size doesn't matter as much as proportion.
Yes! So many good points in this video. People need education on the carbon cycle.
Contrary to the propaganda, atmospheric CO2 is currently at historic lows. So, the chaps question, at 9:00 is pertinent!
I'm in a city, and since the pandemic, and the realization that cities are not self-sufficient environments, I've worked towards Urban and Container Farming.
I've learned a lot from your videos. I hope I can somehow incorporate it in container "gardening".
The problem with container set-ups is that the plants "consume" the soil, so you need to add nutrients often, to the point that it is no longer profitable or viable.
I'm doing this for the depressed/poor communities we are currently working with. Being able to produce your own food means survival for many these days.
😂😂😂 “The Co2 is polluting the air,” and yet plants use Co2 to grow and give us food. 😂🤣😂.
“Co2 is the gas of life.”
Dr. William Happer,
Princeton University
Great vid,great question at 13:30ish. Thank you for these vids.I today bought a used 55 gal. barrel from the steel scrap yard,although they didnt have a 30,Im well on my way to Bio Char. Thanks again for the video. Bob Wells is great. And I aint talking about his playboys..I mean them Char boys..
Amazing set of videos, thank you so much for sharing this knowledge
When CO2 drops below 170ppm plants starve to death, 90o ppm is the approximate optimum CO2 before you start to poison plant from CO2. We are at around 400ppm. That's far enough from either that part of the equation is a distraction. All the other parts of this is the focus worthy of paying attention to.
7:53 Isn't the stuff that comes out of the stacks of Coal plants toxic, and full of other dangerous chemicals? Why would you want to grow your food made from the filter of a coal plant? Maybe if it was filtered first some how??? Doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
هل يمكن حرق أوراق النخيل بهذه الطريقة وإنتاج فحم
If we burned trees to char instead of coal, we could then use that char to fertilize the soil and sequester carbon. Seems like a win win win win. Cleaner air, cleaner electricity, healthier soil and higher quality food
Awesome info. Thank you. I hope & pray I get to use these ideas.
You need to distinguish the difference between char and biochar. You said biochar could be used to remove pollutants from discharges to air, but that would be less effective than char by itself. Char🤣, and biochar, will not remove by “every pollutant” from the air passing through it.
Making small amounts of biochar in my fireplace using an enameled roster. Using it in my Southern California high desert orchard. Going great in combination with wood chips.
I live in Java, Indonesia. I would be happy to cooperate with you guys.
You can sell that energy made from creating biochar back to the power grid. Bamboo grows fast and can be used to make biochar. I need help with this in Florida.
These global warming hoax believers beat all I ever seen. CO2 concentration goes up a hair more and the fool will just wonder mouth agape why his 'organic' garden is doing so good and he has to mow his yard twice as often.
South India traditional stove is an classic example of manufacturing bio char in every house hold. Clay stove inner layer surrounded with saw dust and then using dried sticks to make bio char and cook at the same time
where can i learn more about these indian stoves?
Isn’t that how a gasifier works. Couldn’t you use the exhaust as fuel for an internal combustion engine?
Put it in the back of a truck and use it as fuel.
The holes in the biochar also become the homes of microbes that breakdown nutrients in the soil and make those nutrients available for the plants.
The OSB wall of the class room should be called OBSB or Oriented BIO Strand Board, storing carbon in wood products is better than charcoal.
no i have an idea... i'll biochar myself and plant on my biochar... and everyone will remember me... haha
You cant plant on yourself but someone else can. Or if your still in tact you could be a memorial statue.
Good day, I just watch you videos on this channel, and I discovered many things, if possible I would like us to chat.
Most outstanding video I have ever heard in sustainability.
Initiate the Keep your carbon campaign! A contest to see who can sink the most carbon into their property and export the least.
Can I load up the biochar myself with urine , molasses, and compost?
please show me the results on video as from my search the biochar is hype and where it is used the results is less production after 3 years.
The plants take co2 out of the air, the plants roots hold the co2 in the substrate
Good to see some people still think. To bad it's not contagious.
or... ledd it it rottt
and drink da beer..
monk-style
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Regulations prevent biomass burning plants to be profitable.
What is the difference between BIO-CHAR and Charcoal (Untreated charcoal, no additives)?
Biochar is charcoal used as a soil amendment.
If you make the charcoal in the ancient method, like here in italy "carbonaie" you obtain biochar or charcoal, the same thing... The important is to use the batural way, for make briquette of char there is some binding element and this aren't much clean
People....wrong questions...!!!!!!!!!!! We need co2 to absorb oxygen in our bodies PERIOD We share DNA with the plants. What happens when you hyper ventilate...... you R oxygen rich and you cannot absorb it ..... when you bread into a paper back you re-bread the CO2 and ..... you figure it out....
I loved your program 1st. Time I heated about biochar from Japanese documentary but? There was no clear explanation how to make it and photo prove as your turnips was amazing.
Could you tell me how much will it cost a bag? Or per tone if could be buy it by tones?
And how long you need to keep it in compost pile for? A year? 6 months? Or 3 months .
Last question, : would you use building treated timber to make Biochar? Or only none treated building timber or both?
Thank you
Plants grow through a chemical electro magnetic
Process that is mirrored by the process of photosynthesis. The quality level of carbon in soil is like a one lane road opening to a double lane one . The level of nutrients
In vegetables today is about 60% of what it was when this data was first studied more than 80 years
Ago. This is a great place for like minded people to
Learn and share...boy I wish I had not spent so much time on chicks and
' relationships '...
I’m learning with every word!
I will love to learn how to use d energy to produce electricity, I have tons of waste wood at my disposal all year round. Many sawmills just burn slabs away for nothing. The heat energy can be harvest for sure but how for electricity?
To make a simplified analogy, would it be accurate to say that biochar is basically like a foundation to create a natural, fully customizable, slow-release fertilizer that is also self-improving to some degree? I'm completely amazed and in awe before biochar and what you are explaining in this workshop. I'm from regular home owner in Quebec/Canada, I'm not an farmer by any means, but and I would love nothing more than to see this being applied in our local agriculture. I know that most industrial farmers around here still rely heavily on chemical fertilizers and it kills me to see it. I'm really wondering why biochar hasn't been advertised more over here and why it's not common knowledge today. Do you by any chance know anybody that does apply it on their crops in Quebec?
Have you seen this video? They built a closed loop Biochar energy system
Rob Herring
Director/Producer (with Ryan Wirick), The Need To GROW
Earth Conscious Films
Cobra Gippsy a people who gather and build large round piles of sticks, cover with sand and carbonize burn, watch RUclips Cobra Gippsy.also petrified wood can be made from silicone dioxide sand.😃
What problems would be caused by leaving the char in large chunks rather than grinding/smashing it into small pieces?
The "salt" in biochar would not be any higher than the "salt" in the composted version of the same original material.
Salt btw, is a horribly abused and misused term, even among relatively science based agricultural folks. All fertilizers are salts, every last one even those from all natural compost. The only issue is having a sevear excess of one or two elements or just having some unneeded elements(like sodium) but the issue is not simply "too much salt"
Tell us more about farming….
Bio char + earthworm castings!!!
Hi, at 34.12 minutes in you mention that you won't know if this enterprise has been profitable until 4 years down the track. If this talk was in 2014, I'm wondering, whats the verdict??
Was it that the first year of peas were stunted because they were absorbing nitrogen from the peas? I'd heard on another video that you must first "activate" biochar by mixing it with high nitrogen materials.
Rocket stove + Avilla Stove = ???
Idea for your mobile unit. Use a mobile gasifier that you load up at the site of the waste material, and light it then use the wood gas to power your vehicle back home, or too the next waste material site. Free fuel for your mobile unit and reduces the need to store energy or compress the gas for storage.
I have seen your lecture and I want to know what type and biochar would benefit ginger plants. If you have this char please text me with an answer.
13.55 but if you put your biochar into your composting heap and it became loaded you could apply the biochar to the pre seeded bed after a period of time say 8 to 10 weeks then you would have loaded biochar and could then apply it onto your soil to seed into???? This is a question of my understanding! 44.49 It is an activator 46:48 i thought you were saying spray wood vinegar onto compost pile but you mentioned biochar instead was that meant to be wood vinegar. If your compost pile smells it has gon anaerobic and needs turning to get the oxygen into it.
The power plants already filter out components with the use of lime and soda ash and ammonia....the char would be an additional method of achieving this, but it would likely not be cost effective as the other materials used, due to the amounts that are needed, and they use those materials to receive credits (S02 mitigation, etc.). Some companies who utilize these methods efficiently actually make a profit by selling credits they accumulate.
Human population is increasing day by day and most of the forest area is converti1ng in to agriculture expansion to meet the food grains need to public there Bio char is also needed for multiple benefits
Build a train that runs off of the biochar byproduct, load up on fresh wood and burn it, by the time you get to your destination the biochar is complete and along the way you lose weight wish improves efficiencies. Solves the mass production problem, people could stop by train depots and load up through silos.
Wonderful Inspiration Bob Wells thank you , suggestion about gasses, MOBILE UNIT capture gases through some previously made biochar from the mobile stack. Passing through to a hopper with biochar and it will load the bio char. Or the biproduct of woodvinegar could be passed through a tank in a similar fashion. I hope it works!
Cooking &/or heating from your biochar production will make the system most efficient.
Loading your biochar by using it to filter other pollutants(water & air) increases all potential.
Incorporating carbon reduction into your homestead plan or hobby time adds up 2a benefit 4all of US
Thank you so much for such valuable information. I am so appreciative of this series of education. Bless You
the particle size of the char and how to get it down to that size ?
Some people screen it, some crush it with a ground leveler thing. Some people thru a wood chipper... saw someone run it over. Maybe lay a board over it and run it over. Or in a sheet. I used an upside down post pounder.
new to u tube. surprised to learn. bob wells reminds me of ret. rev hess of the dorchester nj church.
i will have machine made to burn.
watched others i have a small bathtub got fire going.
put water on it made some black.
a 55 gal drum urine and food waste distance from house with junk carcoal on top no smell i am surprised.
thanks for the learning experience yours truly
evans robinson
The children have always been afraid of something. Part of it is some of the BS they are told. When I was younger it was the A number. We need to not worry about things, but do need to do what we can to fix what we can. I am thinking of this to filter the output from a methane generator. The methane can be used as natural gas and the filtered water would be good to use. But what was used to filter the water would be changed. Is this worth checking out?
I draw my water for my garden, from a ditch that comes off the local river would the nutrients in the water charge the bio charge??
Parabolic mirrows ? ;)
I think i gonna do it
MirroRs
Fantastic information...Thank You
Can I buy charcoal briquettes and crush them up to put into soil.
Are these briquettes considered Biochar(but with maybe a little binder added
for it to keep its shape)????
anarchore what if it's just char? No coal dust or coal byproduct it it?
If they are pure, they may still have resin in them to help them heat up and stick together. Even if they don't have that, and this is the whole point, we need to be making biochar out of waste materials that would otherwise break down and release carbon back into the atmosphere. You can make your own out of twigs in your yard! I make mine in a small gasifier stove that I made out of old coffee cans.
Jamie Vega aloha! I like your idea. I was considering using coffee cans too on a small scale with no budget. Poor people come up with some ingenious things around the globe haha. Would you be able to send me pics of your setup? I'm kicking around design ideas too. I was thinking of using them in a BBQs pit that I have or making a clay pit in the ground. Thanks!
some plants require acidic or alkaline soil, if you put charcoal in the soil you'll ruin it forever.
It's been 5 years. Any idea if his furnace was economically productive?
you could add it after fruit harvest and it would absorb plant nutrients from decomposing add grassing to add manure urine .
Based on what the guy explained at 11:00 I'm now wondering if we used biochar on a massive global scale could that tip a balance of how plants take CO2 out of the air? I know that Algae is the worlds largest CO2 converter, but still, thoughts?
They found algae in the terra preta. I am convinced they were using the river seaweed to charge it. Most nutrient dense thing on the planet. I wonder if the algae would be able to live and keep multiplying thus increasing the soil 'magically'. They haven't been able to duplicate it but the Wikipedia lists algae in the i ingredients found in it. Still to this day so... is it alive still? That would be fantastic. I live in the Ocean on a sand bar with the world's largest bull kelp so I have been doing lots of seaweed research.
Also, if you look on the map, all the Terra Preta is by the river.
Oil et al are not made from fossil originated material. It’s a ridiculous idea
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I owner of some land in NC the sandy soil is 3ft deed with. 2ft of gray clay under it but in the back yard has 3ft of the black soil you have seen when i planted tomato plants in the back yard the they got 10ft tall
Lucky you
I worked in an forrest plantation with No creeks on the 3200 acres
Ground water 108 below surface and mostly Sandy dirt 😨
There is carbon tax. What about carbon credit for BioChar user?
So this is more than 3-4 years later, how did it go ? is your setup economical ?
It was a scam and some of them got a lot of prison time.
@@perfectford133 got any links ??
@@brightshadowdenmark My apologies Google cross-referenced to another company. this one seems to be legit.
respect natural force, borrow natural force, return natural force.
So it has been more than 4 years. Is it profitable?
Good luck
Thanks
Can we plant the biochar in soils first before putting it in with the new year's crops to avoid less growth the first year with the plants - or maybe even put it in with a compost bin and then add the Biochar compost and get a better crop?
Just heard what you said in the video and got my answer thanks.