The VS. style of content is great to learn about the strengths of every MMORPG involved. No matter who ends up being the winner in a match up, it is more important to find the game that fits your personal flavour of MMORPG. Although I like to call myself a MMO nomad with GW2 as home base, I missed out on LOTRO so far and this video reminded me again that I really should try it out some time.
I love Bright's thoughtful and fair responses. Very good points. My only gripe is the immersion point ended up being more a cosmetics point than true immersion. Having played both games, I feel way more immersed and invested in lotro than gw2. My character is interacting with the world and situations in meaningful and sometimes subtle ways. I support the war of the ring in unique ways based on my choices and path. GW2 has you be the generic hero, the Commander! I never feel a sense of my own identity because gw2 defines it for me. For me lotro always brings me back. After hundreds of hours in gw2 I got bored and have never regretted leaving it. Both are good games but Lotro would be my personal winner. It is just more immersive and enjoyable for my tastes.
I think for me it depends on my gaming mood for either of these games. Guild Wars 2 i can just jump in and automatically find a world boss event or some event going on in a map and have fun and get rewarded. Ive been a bit burned out on occasion due to the horizontal progression but at the same time i do enjoy it. Just depends on the mood of mmo I want to play LOTRO is a game where if I want to relax and enjoy the journey ill go there. Its all about exploration as its mostly a complete open world with unique creatures of middle earth running around and plus I love the music. I've never got to end game but im quite happy with that as im just exploring at my own pace. Ive had the game near enough since launch and my highest character is a lvl 62 captain. Ive dipped in and out over the last 10 or so years but it always brings me back. Its mainly due to games like GW2 which has taken me away due to its event system.
And another one: The Race of Man recently got a character creation overhaul for the 16th anniversary and has a lot of new options. Some of them are quite controversial, but the devs really used every trick the engine allowed them to, to give us more options for our middle-earthian alter egos.
That's a tough one... both excellent in different ways. If I were trying to be objective and judge based on modern gaming standards, I'd probably have to say GW2... it has much more varied content, its questing systems are unique, and the hybrid combat is great. But LOTRO is... just LOTRO, it is my favorite. As a Tolkien geek, if ya know ya know. Thanks for the video.
I think you got the chart exactly right. It's just that for some people, that "Worldbuilding" category will be weighted *extremely heavily.* :-) Thanks.
Good to see you posting videos again, my liege :P I personally love GW2. While I think instanced PVE content is better in LOTRO, the fact I can refer to a schedule, rock up to a world event and know that there are always a ton of people doing metas, or bosses that don't even require grouping feeds that mmo group fix enough for me. I do want to devote some significant time to LOTRO though, maybe in the next couple months.
Both of these games, I have a fair bit of time into. GW2 I'm taking a break before diving into Cantha for the meat of the EoD storyline, and Lotro my Kin is alternating weeks between running the new Gwathenrost raid and taking our lowbie alts through old content. I can't outright disagree with any of your points, they were well thought out and presented. I'd personally have scored some things a *bit* different (unsurprising to most as I basically *live* in Lotro a lot of the time), but from a pure point to point scale like this I think I'd have ended up probably 4-3 for GW2 as well. And I choose to play Lotro far more, which goes to show that weighting and subjectivity is always going to be a thing. :) Looking forward to the next installment.
if lotro had a fresh start server i would be all over it ive tried to play the game a few times over the years but beind so far behind and getting ported to battle of helms deep at level 20 is a bad experience
Hey Bright, suggestion for ya - Could you give the scorecard more screen time at the end of the video? Like maybe have it overlaid in the corner of the screen during your concluding remarks? That'll give us a little more time to digest how the games compare in the end.
@@BrightlifeMMOs The scorecard is a recap in its own right, IMO. You do a good enough job outlining your points in the rest of the video that I don't think you need to go over them again.
I played lotro for almost a decade on and off, I haven't touched it in years now for the same reason I kept taking breaks. It's a never ending level grind, it gets incredibly tedious when you take a break and then come back to having to grind more levels constantly.
There is also a technical side of things. I am not able to play Lotro on the devices I own. I might like Lotro more (played it in the past around its release) but that's irrelevant. GW2 has always the option to be played via Geforce Now, which works pretty great.
Just an important distinction: Lotro does not have the holy trinity - it has four equally important main roles, that make the game special: Support (e.g. yellow LM and Burg, red Captain), DD (e.g. Hunter, Champ), Heal (e.g. Blue MInstrel, yellow Beo) and Tanks (e.g. Blue Guardian or yellow Captain)
gw2 also doesn't have holy trinity, every class can be anything depends on the build. thief can be a healer, ranger can fight in melee with greatsword or become a super tanky support when choose the druid specialization, guardian can be long rang dps with longbow, warrior can be burst dps with greatsword or used riffle or even become banner slave that support and buffing ally with their banners, necro can be power or condi dps or become healer
I feel like LOTRO is better for the lore, and for fans of the LOTR universe because it really is the best Middle Earth experience ever. It is a massive game that goes deep into lore, has familiar faces, allows you to explore the areas you loved seeing in the movies, etc. If you're into the ACTUAL MMO experience (massive multiplayer...) with endgame, raids, PVP, PVPVE, etc it's not even close. Not to mention gameplay.
Pretty simple to me, I've played LOTRO for 13 years but the LAG is just too much now. I'm in GW2 for the long haul now. Smoother, no lag, less frustration. SSG is dropping the ball over on LOTRO until they fix the lag. If you are playing LOTRO, go spend a couple of weeks on GW2 and experience a smooth, no lag game then try to come back, you will wonder why you ever played LOTRO.
I think its best to summarise my personal comparison to: GW2 is an mmo everyone can enjoy, lotro is not, but to who does fit the target audience for lotro will find no better game anywhere else.
LOTRO has the strong content - good Main Game, despite the lag/performance issues, which can be mitigated by a combination of good video card and cpu and game settings. GW2 content is weak. Will always be a Vacation MMO. It just isn't immersive enough.
Combat: Agree - GW2. But one point in LOTRO's favour for me is the amount of abilities to use, I feel they are better. Leveling/World Building: Agree - LOTRO - Really enjoy the leveling in LOTRO, that said after I think it kicks in more around level 30. It's a journey, smell the flowers, enjoy your time Character Immersion: Disagree :) - LOTRO - Character Creation is okay for lotro. I feel very immersed in LOTRO and it's lore, the feeling of the world, the vistas you come across, the world environment enriches the character immersion. I like the slower pace of the game. PVP: I hardly ever do PvP, so I'll go with what you say here. Although that chicken run massacre was fun. Is Wolfenraged in the house? Group PVE: Disagree - GW2. LOTRO has issues with group content due to population, certainly for the likes of myself playing from New Zealand, my primetime the population so low. Hard to find a group. Endgame: No comment here have not ever been in endgame content for either. All my endgame time has been spent in World of Warcraft. Monetization: Agree - GW2 - But don't mind either tbh You missed one in my opinion, the User Interface - LOTRO slams GW2 down. A lot of the UI in LOTRO can be moved anywhere. Can move hotbars anywhere you like, it's great. There are addons that allow for different themes and enhancements to the existing UI. While I have more up there for GW2, LOTRO is the game I want to play more! :) Great vid Bright. Cya online sometime soon.
my agree and disagreement on ur comment - combat: agree - GW2 but disagree about amount of ablities to use, gw2 has, varied combat system = dodge mechanic, weapon swap on combat, skills are depend on weapon and it varied on each class like greatsword on guardian is totally different skill than greatsword on ranger or reaper, or warrior, or mesmer (mesmer used greatsword for long range style), underwater combat, also the elite specs. there are 3 elite specs for each class and 9 classes at the base game. so gw2 has 27 classes and each classes. it's become more complex when it comes to build tree for each class itself, every class has 3 style that can used at the same time, 5 from core and 3 elite. an each style has 12 passive option ability and while choose 6 at the same time, and about 32 option utility skill including elite specs while only can use 3 at same time, 7 healing skill, and 7 elite skill... the conclusion about combat in gw2 is, even someone has the same class, it'll be different depend on weapon and style, that he choose on the build panel. - leveling/world building:disagree - Gw2= there are some varied option for leveling in gw2, u can leveling by completing quest like basic mmorgp stuff, but in gw2 no need to talk to npc to do the quest, just walk to the quest area and do the quest. u can also gain amount of exp for lvling by completing other objective around the map like vista's, poi's, and hero challenge's or just discovering new area gives some exp, everything on the openworld gives exp. u can also doin personal story for leveling that unlock every 10 lvl. world building in gw2 is amazing and the best world than any other mmorpg, the dynamic event that organicly poop out around the map, even high lvl player still doin event at low lvl map because of the lvl scaling, no need to worry because everyone that participation on the event get the same loot as long they participated. that make gw2 openworld feels life, and the world itself is beautifull, one of the best design is on verdant brink that has massive vertical landscape - character immersion = Gw2 - from the first character creation, gw2 give the background option depend on every races that player choose, like human can choose where he come from streets, common folk, or noble family, then choose the characther between charm, dignity, or ferocity. and different it's affect on what class we choose, and what race we choose has different option. the personal story itself is the character journey from the beginning and continue on every expansion. and some of the story u can choose what path that u'll choose, like choosing the order organization and other decision that will affect the story Endgame: there are many things to do in gw2 end game
You probably picked one of the Hardest 2 to choose from right out of the gate...Both are solid games. I suspected GW2 was going to win on PVP and Monetization alone. Though you could still play a ton of LOTRO without ever spending a single penny.
I'm in the minority, but SWTOR is my new fave MMO. After years of playing Wow, GW2, ESO, FFXIV etc nothing can make me feel the way i do when i play SWTOR :) But out of these two games, i think gw2 is better. But i do much prefer the landscapes and overal vibes from LOTRO.... Its just too outdated sadly.
Two big things you forgot to mention that are a turn off for a lot of people with GW2 is level scaling, and level boosting. I hate being downscaled and upscaled, it makes all that hard work feel pointless, similar to how WoW retail is. The level boosting, they just give you a free max level boost to any new player, whats the point? Just skips so much content and understanding of the game.
i just wish that GW2 didn't killed off the dwarves races but i did played tor 12 years nonstop i got burn out on it. IT is a great game but as a Fan of Lord of the Rings i just can't stop playing LOTRO its a good game
Yep they went woke, my family and friends will never touch their game again, we all quit. Screw that company. After the fan backlash to the Rings of Power abomination, and the utter failure of it, The LOTS devs were DUMB enough to follow in it's footsteps and spit on Tolkien's grave to earn a few SJW points. Screw em. You mess with Tolkien, you're done. You don't get to F with this amazing man's life work with woke nonsense. As has been said, woke is a mind virus.
Good to see that LoTRO won this one, because obviously it means that LoTRO only needs two punches to equal five from GW2! I wanna see LoTRO vs. ESO next, those are the two games I am pickciding between.
LOTRO wins for me. Its just middleearth and how they created the world. Its just epic. GW2 looks like a childs playground to me. I appreciated the combat the first days, but gets boring after time. For me the hybrid system absolutely sucks...
Guild wars 2 leveling is extremely boring and u never really feel attached to your character. Lord of the rings online has probably THEE best leveling experience i have ever seen in a MMO. When u get a piece of Gear you immediately feel more powerful.
I just wish GW supported the original GW players and GW2 alpha and day 1 players more, we don't get much. I quit year sago because I felt unappreciated as such a long time supporter of the series. I own and played every GW expansion and even to this day i log in and play around what my necro and ranger xD. GW2 just fell off imo.
GUILD WARS 2 won't allow me to have a mount as f2p and earn premium currency to unlock expansions, LOTRO on the other hand does, easy win since i don't like to pay for MMO's
LoTR is just outdated, unintuitive and has a terrible, slow paced combat system. In terms of lore i'd say superior, but falls short in every other aspect sadly.
Although i love the world, quests and so on...i do agree with everything you said. If the LOTRO had modern graphics and a faster paced combat sytem i might have voted for LOTRO
LOTRO, hands down. Guild Wars 2 is a lot of fun, I'm enjoying exploring the world of Tyria and trying to 100% the map. The story questlines are interesting and the NPCs are funny. But the heart quests and events are only okay and the mounts are downright ugly. (Sorry raptor, you're helpful but so ugly) LOTRO has a huge variety of quests, lots of iconic characters as NPCs, so many areas to explore and love (or hate). Beyond the quests, I love the skirmishes, instances, festivals, the cosmetic system, oh and the mounts are pretty. Okay, so some of the mounts in LOTRO are ugly too. Can't get away from that, it seems. I guess it boils down to would I replay it? With LOTRO, it's no contest ... don't even ask how many characters I have because I don't know. I've played it so much over the past 14 years. Can I see myself doing the same thing with Guild Wars 2? Maybe once or twice, to explore the stories of different races, but beyond that? Probably not. Yeah, LOTRO is hands down winner for me.
They don't even compare, Gw2 is a great mmo and lotro sucks but it has LOTR "skin" to please fans. Its simple, if what you want is an online game set in lord of the rings world, play lotro, if you're looking for a good mmo there's Gw2 That said, good content!
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The VS. style of content is great to learn about the strengths of every MMORPG involved. No matter who ends up being the winner in a match up, it is more important to find the game that fits your personal flavour of MMORPG.
Although I like to call myself a MMO nomad with GW2 as home base, I missed out on LOTRO so far and this video reminded me again that I really should try it out some time.
Great Job, Brightlife. Brilliant idea! That PvP take, just shocking! Shocking I tell you!
Glad to see a new video from you!
I love Bright's thoughtful and fair responses. Very good points. My only gripe is the immersion point ended up being more a cosmetics point than true immersion. Having played both games, I feel way more immersed and invested in lotro than gw2. My character is interacting with the world and situations in meaningful and sometimes subtle ways. I support the war of the ring in unique ways based on my choices and path. GW2 has you be the generic hero, the Commander! I never feel a sense of my own identity because gw2 defines it for me.
For me lotro always brings me back. After hundreds of hours in gw2 I got bored and have never regretted leaving it. Both are good games but Lotro would be my personal winner. It is just more immersive and enjoyable for my tastes.
Great series idea.
Waiting for the FFXIV vs WoW episode, i'm sure it won't be controversial at all.
Turning off my comment notifications for that one 😂😂
I think for me it depends on my gaming mood for either of these games. Guild Wars 2 i can just jump in and automatically find a world boss event or some event going on in a map and have fun and get rewarded. Ive been a bit burned out on occasion due to the horizontal progression but at the same time i do enjoy it. Just depends on the mood of mmo I want to play
LOTRO is a game where if I want to relax and enjoy the journey ill go there. Its all about exploration as its mostly a complete open world with unique creatures of middle earth running around and plus I love the music. I've never got to end game but im quite happy with that as im just exploring at my own pace. Ive had the game near enough since launch and my highest character is a lvl 62 captain. Ive dipped in and out over the last 10 or so years but it always brings me back. Its mainly due to games like GW2 which has taken me away due to its event system.
And another one: The Race of Man recently got a character creation overhaul for the 16th anniversary and has a lot of new options. Some of them are quite controversial, but the devs really used every trick the engine allowed them to, to give us more options for our middle-earthian alter egos.
What are the controversial changes?
I have heard about this before but i cant really find anything citing exactly what is being talked about.
Okay, after looking around more it seems that human women can have.. beards now?
what the fuck is that
GW2 best fashionscape mmo
Lol, dude clicks spells with his mouse xD
mouse skill clicking in gw2 oooof that going to be hard in late game
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That's a tough one... both excellent in different ways. If I were trying to be objective and judge based on modern gaming standards, I'd probably have to say GW2... it has much more varied content, its questing systems are unique, and the hybrid combat is great. But LOTRO is... just LOTRO, it is my favorite. As a Tolkien geek, if ya know ya know. Thanks for the video.
Crazy that you picked these two first, cuz I think these are my favorite MMOs. ESO is probably a distant third.
I think you got the chart exactly right. It's just that for some people, that "Worldbuilding" category will be weighted *extremely heavily.* :-) Thanks.
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Good to see you posting videos again, my liege :P
I personally love GW2. While I think instanced PVE content is better in LOTRO, the fact I can refer to a schedule, rock up to a world event and know that there are always a ton of people doing metas, or bosses that don't even require grouping feeds that mmo group fix enough for me.
I do want to devote some significant time to LOTRO though, maybe in the next couple months.
Both of these games, I have a fair bit of time into. GW2 I'm taking a break before diving into Cantha for the meat of the EoD storyline, and Lotro my Kin is alternating weeks between running the new Gwathenrost raid and taking our lowbie alts through old content.
I can't outright disagree with any of your points, they were well thought out and presented. I'd personally have scored some things a *bit* different (unsurprising to most as I basically *live* in Lotro a lot of the time), but from a pure point to point scale like this I think I'd have ended up probably 4-3 for GW2 as well. And I choose to play Lotro far more, which goes to show that weighting and subjectivity is always going to be a thing. :) Looking forward to the next installment.
if lotro had a fresh start server i would be all over it ive tried to play the game a few times over the years but beind so far behind and getting ported to battle of helms deep at level 20 is a bad experience
They do now!
Hey Bright, suggestion for ya - Could you give the scorecard more screen time at the end of the video? Like maybe have it overlaid in the corner of the screen during your concluding remarks? That'll give us a little more time to digest how the games compare in the end.
GREAT idea! Maybe recap it as well??
@@BrightlifeMMOs The scorecard is a recap in its own right, IMO. You do a good enough job outlining your points in the rest of the video that I don't think you need to go over them again.
If you press "spacebar" during a video, the playback will pause, and you can gaze at the chart for eternity.
Why not mmofight warlord?
I played lotro for almost a decade on and off, I haven't touched it in years now for the same reason I kept taking breaks.
It's a never ending level grind, it gets incredibly tedious when you take a break and then come back to having to grind more levels constantly.
MMO vs NMO (Niche Multiplayer Online). Both games are great & have passionate communities, but lotro is not in the same ballpark as gw2 at all.
Thank you Fight Lord/Liege
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This is such an odd comparison. Had to look if it was april fools day it was released.
I tried launch the Lotro, not working, was fun
Im just play gw2 and recently know LOTRO and dude those landscapes... breathtaking
There is also a technical side of things. I am not able to play Lotro on the devices I own. I might like Lotro more (played it in the past around its release) but that's irrelevant. GW2 has always the option to be played via Geforce Now, which works pretty great.
LOTS has 800 players, what are you comparing here?
Have you ever tried SWTOR?
Just an important distinction: Lotro does not have the holy trinity - it has four equally important main roles, that make the game special: Support (e.g. yellow LM and Burg, red Captain), DD (e.g. Hunter, Champ), Heal (e.g. Blue MInstrel, yellow Beo) and Tanks (e.g. Blue Guardian or yellow Captain)
gw2 also doesn't have holy trinity, every class can be anything depends on the build. thief can be a healer, ranger can fight in melee with greatsword or become a super tanky support when choose the druid specialization, guardian can be long rang dps with longbow, warrior can be burst dps with greatsword or used riffle or even become banner slave that support and buffing ally with their banners, necro can be power or condi dps or become healer
I feel like LOTRO is better for the lore, and for fans of the LOTR universe because it really is the best Middle Earth experience ever. It is a massive game that goes deep into lore, has familiar faces, allows you to explore the areas you loved seeing in the movies, etc.
If you're into the ACTUAL MMO experience (massive multiplayer...) with endgame, raids, PVP, PVPVE, etc it's not even close. Not to mention gameplay.
My two favorite MMOs. One has the best lore, the other has the best gameplay. You know which is which.
Pretty simple to me, I've played LOTRO for 13 years but the LAG is just too much now. I'm in GW2 for the long haul now. Smoother, no lag, less frustration. SSG is dropping the ball over on LOTRO until they fix the lag. If you are playing LOTRO, go spend a couple of weeks on GW2 and experience a smooth, no lag game then try to come back, you will wonder why you ever played LOTRO.
I think its best to summarise my personal comparison to: GW2 is an mmo everyone can enjoy, lotro is not, but to who does fit the target audience for lotro will find no better game anywhere else.
Yup! I think the chart was right, but for some the "Worldbuilding" category will be weighted *extremely heavily.*
I'm really surprised that GW2 with its great graphics can get 100+FPS on a non-gaming laptop. i5 11th gen intel iris xe.
LOTRO was, is and will always be the best.......the world and athmosphere is just to amazing
It's hard to call LOTRO an MMO when you dont see any players for hundred of hours. But, the story, music and world is amazing!
LOTRO has the strong content - good Main Game, despite the lag/performance issues, which can be mitigated by a combination of good video card and cpu and game settings. GW2 content is weak. Will always be a Vacation MMO. It just isn't immersive enough.
Gw2 is AAA+. The quality of life is unbeatable.
Combat: Agree - GW2. But one point in LOTRO's favour for me is the amount of abilities to use, I feel they are better.
Leveling/World Building: Agree - LOTRO - Really enjoy the leveling in LOTRO, that said after I think it kicks in more around level 30. It's a journey, smell the flowers, enjoy your time
Character Immersion: Disagree :) - LOTRO - Character Creation is okay for lotro. I feel very immersed in LOTRO and it's lore, the feeling of the world, the vistas you come across, the world environment enriches the character immersion. I like the slower pace of the game.
PVP: I hardly ever do PvP, so I'll go with what you say here. Although that chicken run massacre was fun. Is Wolfenraged in the house?
Group PVE: Disagree - GW2. LOTRO has issues with group content due to population, certainly for the likes of myself playing from New Zealand, my primetime the population so low. Hard to find a group.
Endgame: No comment here have not ever been in endgame content for either. All my endgame time has been spent in World of Warcraft.
Monetization: Agree - GW2 - But don't mind either tbh
You missed one in my opinion, the User Interface - LOTRO slams GW2 down. A lot of the UI in LOTRO can be moved anywhere. Can move hotbars anywhere you like, it's great. There are addons that allow for different themes and enhancements to the existing UI.
While I have more up there for GW2, LOTRO is the game I want to play more! :)
Great vid Bright. Cya online sometime soon.
my agree and disagreement on ur comment
- combat: agree - GW2 but disagree about amount of ablities to use, gw2 has, varied combat system = dodge mechanic, weapon swap on combat, skills are depend on weapon and it varied on each class like greatsword on guardian is totally different skill than greatsword on ranger or reaper, or warrior, or mesmer (mesmer used greatsword for long range style), underwater combat, also the elite specs. there are 3 elite specs for each class and 9 classes at the base game. so gw2 has 27 classes and each classes. it's become more complex when it comes to build tree for each class itself, every class has 3 style that can used at the same time, 5 from core and 3 elite. an each style has 12 passive option ability and while choose 6 at the same time, and about 32 option utility skill including elite specs while only can use 3 at same time, 7 healing skill, and 7 elite skill... the conclusion about combat in gw2 is, even someone has the same class, it'll be different depend on weapon and style, that he choose on the build panel.
- leveling/world building:disagree - Gw2= there are some varied option for leveling in gw2, u can leveling by completing quest like basic mmorgp stuff, but in gw2 no need to talk to npc to do the quest, just walk to the quest area and do the quest. u can also gain amount of exp for lvling by completing other objective around the map like vista's, poi's, and hero challenge's or just discovering new area gives some exp, everything on the openworld gives exp. u can also doin personal story for leveling that unlock every 10 lvl. world building in gw2 is amazing and the best world than any other mmorpg, the dynamic event that organicly poop out around the map, even high lvl player still doin event at low lvl map because of the lvl scaling, no need to worry because everyone that participation on the event get the same loot as long they participated. that make gw2 openworld feels life, and the world itself is beautifull, one of the best design is on verdant brink that has massive vertical landscape
- character immersion = Gw2 - from the first character creation, gw2 give the background option depend on every races that player choose, like human can choose where he come from streets, common folk, or noble family, then choose the characther between charm, dignity, or ferocity. and different it's affect on what class we choose, and what race we choose has different option. the personal story itself is the character journey from the beginning and continue on every expansion. and some of the story u can choose what path that u'll choose, like choosing the order organization and other decision that will affect the story
Endgame: there are many things to do in gw2 end game
You probably picked one of the Hardest 2 to choose from right out of the gate...Both are solid games. I suspected GW2 was going to win on PVP and Monetization alone. Though you could still play a ton of LOTRO without ever spending a single penny.
I'm in the minority, but SWTOR is my new fave MMO. After years of playing Wow, GW2, ESO, FFXIV etc nothing can make me feel the way i do when i play SWTOR :)
But out of these two games, i think gw2 is better. But i do much prefer the landscapes and overal vibes from LOTRO.... Its just too outdated sadly.
Both give you a very different experience, so for me there is no best. Why not play both? If I could only play one, then it would be Lotro.
Two big things you forgot to mention that are a turn off for a lot of people with GW2 is level scaling, and level boosting. I hate being downscaled and upscaled, it makes all that hard work feel pointless, similar to how WoW retail is. The level boosting, they just give you a free max level boost to any new player, whats the point? Just skips so much content and understanding of the game.
i just wish that GW2 didn't killed off the dwarves races but i did played tor 12 years nonstop i got burn out on it. IT is a great game but as a Fan of Lord of the Rings i just can't stop playing LOTRO its a good game
I stopped playing gw2 because of all the puzzles which became timed like Mario. Your show is always worth seeing.
lotro is good, but need a total rebuild
I'd of picked LOTRO before the last patch, but now with their tossing Lore and effort into the wind utterly ... nope.
They added bearded women to a medieval western traditionalist fantasy world 😂
Yep they went woke, my family and friends will never touch their game again, we all quit.
Screw that company. After the fan backlash to the Rings of Power abomination, and the utter failure of it, The LOTS devs were DUMB enough to follow in it's footsteps and spit on Tolkien's grave to earn a few SJW points. Screw em. You mess with Tolkien, you're done. You don't get to F with this amazing man's life work with woke nonsense. As has been said, woke is a mind virus.
@@echoechoecho7142 yes
LOTRO hands down wins in my opinion!
gw2 of course
GW2 is by far the better game! Nqa
LOTRO ❤
Lotro >>>>
Because my laptop can actually run it
Good to see that LoTRO won this one, because obviously it means that LoTRO only needs two punches to equal five from GW2!
I wanna see LoTRO vs. ESO next, those are the two games I am pickciding between.
Guild wars 2 by far
Guild wars 2 all the way
"Duel Daddy"
That’s the one
this is a no brainer
LOTRO was always best in every year not only 23 :P
Gw2 "weighty" combat? Dude :| that game's combat is floaty AF and feels weightless. It's -almost- as bad as ESO's. Almost.
GW2 SMACKS!
LOTRO wins for me. Its just middleearth and how they created the world. Its just epic. GW2 looks like a childs playground to me. I appreciated the combat the first days, but gets boring after time. For me the hybrid system absolutely sucks...
LOTRO is and old piece of crap. Boring and old as hell, even more than LOTR movies. Mediocre, horrible combat system, poor content and dead.
Maybe because you have no skill? Tab target is a joke and drives many to sleep.
@@mrmeepsyt5917 I like action combat and I even played New World 800h (mostly PvP) and loved it. But I just dont like the hybrid system of GW2.
lotro is better because gets you to order a $20 slice of cheesecake 😆
Umm not just true but TRUEEEE xD
LMAO 😂
Guild wars 2 leveling is extremely boring and u never really feel attached to your character. Lord of the rings online has probably THEE best leveling experience i have ever seen in a MMO. When u get a piece of Gear you immediately feel more powerful.
Play new world
I only play GW2 free to play version
I just wish GW supported the original GW players and GW2 alpha and day 1 players more, we don't get much. I quit year sago because I felt unappreciated as such a long time supporter of the series. I own and played every GW expansion and even to this day i log in and play around what my necro and ranger xD. GW2 just fell off imo.
LOTRO
GUILD WARS 2 won't allow me to have a mount as f2p and earn premium currency to unlock expansions, LOTRO on the other hand does, easy win since i don't like to pay for MMO's
LoTR is just outdated, unintuitive and has a terrible, slow paced combat system. In terms of lore i'd say superior, but falls short in every other aspect sadly.
Although i love the world, quests and so on...i do agree with everything you said. If the LOTRO had modern graphics and a faster paced combat sytem i might have voted for LOTRO
LOTRO, hands down.
Guild Wars 2 is a lot of fun, I'm enjoying exploring the world of Tyria and trying to 100% the map. The story questlines are interesting and the NPCs are funny. But the heart quests and events are only okay and the mounts are downright ugly. (Sorry raptor, you're helpful but so ugly)
LOTRO has a huge variety of quests, lots of iconic characters as NPCs, so many areas to explore and love (or hate). Beyond the quests, I love the skirmishes, instances, festivals, the cosmetic system, oh and the mounts are pretty. Okay, so some of the mounts in LOTRO are ugly too. Can't get away from that, it seems.
I guess it boils down to would I replay it? With LOTRO, it's no contest ... don't even ask how many characters I have because I don't know. I've played it so much over the past 14 years. Can I see myself doing the same thing with Guild Wars 2? Maybe once or twice, to explore the stories of different races, but beyond that? Probably not.
Yeah, LOTRO is hands down winner for me.
LOVE this well thought out response Bella! You rock!! ❤️
@@BrightlifeMMOs lol
LOTR really one of the worst dude
Seems like you have just got to about lvl 30 and quit lol, you gotta get to endgame content/maps mate
@@96Caleb96 nope gw2 is still d best lotr is the worst u just cant admit it
LOTRO is one of the worst MMO games ever made so the answer is pretty obvious
They don't even compare, Gw2 is a great mmo and lotro sucks but it has LOTR "skin" to please fans.
Its simple, if what you want is an online game set in lord of the rings world, play lotro, if you're looking for a good mmo there's Gw2
That said, good content!