Faction Wars 2024 | 25 Faction Conquest Showdown - Total War Warhammer 3 Competitive
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Sometimes you forget just how amazing Turin's live commentary is because he makes it look so effortless.
You are an absolute treasure to the community.
1:03:40 "...as the children of the night descend on the champions of the Great Maw." Turin is the best, hands down.
well said man, he has a real talent. none better and if esports orgs haven't reached out to him idk why!
Him on his own being able to constantly give relevant and entertaining commentary is so amazing
He really is the goat
He's the Vin Scully of warhammer
Daemons of Chaos vs Tomb kings - 6:55
Beastmen vs Bretonnia - 17:50
Slaanesh vs Dwarves - 30:40
Norsca vs Chaos Dwarves - 42:25
Vampire Counts vs Ogre Kingdoms - 56:45
Greenskins vs Daemons of Slaanesh - 1:10:20
Skaven vs Vampire Coast - 1:21:10
Empire vs Nurgle - 1:33:20
Tzeench vs High Elves - 1:44:20
Lizardman vs Tomb Kings - 1:54:50
Wood Elves vs Norsca - 2:15:35
Vampire Counts vs Khorne - 2:30:00
Dwarves vs Bretonnia - 2:39:40
Dark Elves vs Daemons of Slaanesh - 2:50:15
Empire vs Cathay - 2:59:20
Skaven vs Kislev - 3:08:45
High Elves vs Warriors of Chaos - 3:30:50
Lizardmen vs Dwarves - 3:44:25
Khorne vs Norsca - 4:00:45
Empire vs Daemons of Slaanesh - 4:14:35
Kislev vs High Elves - 4:29:45
Lizardman vs Norsca - 4:40:10
Kislev vs Daemons of Slaanesh - 4:57:25
Kislev vs Lizardmen - 5:13:20
The GOAT
sucks that the degenerate kislev beat the fan favorite but still, great stream. PigMan you are my mortal enemy.
Love you
Doing the work Sigmar
amazing, thanks man. Btw, I dont mind but I think you should label the last battles as "semis, grand" to avoid spoiling.
I dont mean this in an insulting way... quite the opposite actually but I love these long ass videos because I put them on when I head to bed and I mostly pay attention but theres something really soothing about them thats sends me off to sleep lol, then the next day I re watch them properly.
Great tourney. The finale was bit disappointing, but there were too many awesome matches for it to put much of a damper on the whole affair. I'd love to see more conquest tournaments in the future with other special rulesets, like 2v2 Grand Alliances or something.
1st place paired with 4th place and 2nd place paired with 3rd place multiplayer with a faction they won their last battle with sounds fun.
Demons of Slaanesh player getting into the semi finals was very impressive. They deserve some kind of reward for that imo. Like a title of portrait for total taverns.
Slaanesh has blessed this comment section
So many awesome battles, and Conquest mode was overall a huge success! Congrats to everyone involved, and thanks for hosting this Turin!
This format is sick. Just non stop action, different factions face off every round!
I want to see someone play a gobbos-only subfaction in one of these!
Someday, my friend
imagine if the rules include skarsnik's gobbo price reduction. Greentide
put me in coach
I have to say, I'm really enjoying the new metagame (except Kislev)! Whether it's Conquest or the latest patch we have to thank, all of a sudden we're seeing things like the Dread Saurian and Star Dragons.
And I think that the best thing about the Lizardmen Solar Engines is that every shot is essentially a free Harmonic Convergence if you can time it right before a charge. Those Skin Wolves were down at MA 8 and MD 4 after taking a hit.
I also have to say I prefer the meta for this mode over the meta for Domination. Domination seems to be more infantry centric and vanguard is seriously restricted. I think this mode strikes a better balance between the other two.
All Bastis need a +100g increase. Just so damn good right now.
Watching Kislev today bought back memories of Evenstar..
I'm sorry I missed the live stream but oh my god I'm an hour in and this is peak content. The absolute meme builds and commentary. Thanks Turin, I needed juicy content.
Hope you enjoyed it!
I made it up to the Gojira vs Aerocrastic game so far -what an awesome match! This has been such a treat :D
Edit: Turin's stress about players not capping the flags is the probably the best thing about this stream XD
Rewatched it since i missed the Stream. Aero was awesome but i was wondering why he played Demons of Chaos and not, well, Slaanesh?
@@fuchsmichael93Coops was already on Slaanesh. Alfredino and Aero each played DoC but each chose unique flavors (Nurgle, Slaanesh). Idk if he was told to do it or just because he wanted to.
all we need now is Felkon to arise from his star chamber...
Subutai seducing me with that triple blood knight build 😩👌🏻
Faction wars are so amazing! I'm glad we get to enjoy another one of these, Turin!
Edit: That HE vs WoC game was amazing! One of the biggest nailbiters I've seen in a while.
I cannot express how excited I am about Faction Wars being back on the menu boys!
Snow Leopards are unit classed as ”War Beast”, which might factor into their not counting toward the SE cap. I don't think any other SE has that designation.
As for Kislev, I think By Our Blood is a toxic trait. There's a reason why Unbreakable is such a rare trait. Outside campaign stuff like Black Ark Admirals, it's basically Slayers, some Dwarf SEs, and Empire Flagellants. All those are balanced by being very fragile or slow as molasses on foot. BOB is far too good as a roster-wide and passive ability. It needs at least one of three things:
* Be active so you have to micro and use it proactively
* Be straight up nerfed to something like 10 sec unbreakable, remaining 15 sec +30 LS decaying to +0 at -2 per sec
* Require some sort of buildup, whether it's just time passed or whatever accomplished, starting at 0 duration at start of game and scaling up to max with XYZ
By Our Blood needs to only be a thing on specific high-tier units, otherwise it just guarantees extra damage and that a unit will by tied up for longer dealing with some random chaff infantry. It's hilarious seeing a unit that won melee getting tarpitted by some trash infantry and be unable to move around the map and help elsewhere, just because Kislev are special like that.
this is peak entertainment, Turin!
Another Kislev win is painfully boring but this was a great faction wars. Insane to see how far Aero went with Slaanesh!
Really enjoyed everything but kislev, was hoping they wouldnt win but deep down we all knew they would. the by our blood needs a nerf, 30 seconds is too long IMO.
Holy Taco, 40.300 Damage with Flocks
yeah man!
Man as a Kislev fan from back when they were in the pits seeing them become the villain is both sad and satisfying.
Ah yes!Adding Kislev in the tournament and would you look at that!Kislev won without issue
Interesting to see Kislev just as broken as always
Turin casts with so much detail that the subtitles often can't keep up :)
Daemons of Slaneesh dominating was a joy to watch every time. Kislev is still Kislev.
Can you please post the painted trophy before you send it out.
Nerf Kislev
A lot of killer performances, but Stingers on High Elves and Aerocrastic on Demons of Slaanesh were both real highlights for me. HE are my fave and that battle against Tzeench was stellar! Aero killed it with the limited roster and surgical micro, and it's a treat to see so many OG's mixed in with the best of the "newschool." What a kickass stream this was!
The tournament was an absoulte blast. Well done and thanks to everyone involved for such great entertainment!
But Pigman with the op Kislev that no one wanted to face - against Chad Aerocrastic with a limited Roster - that was heartbreaking. Especially since Pigman brought such a sweaty degenerate build abusing snow leopards not counting as single entities and bringing 8 SEs. Brought back memories of Pigman getting banned from TequilaSunset (edited) fun tournaments because he always brought sweaty builds to a fun tournament and then was a sore loser and dropped out of tournaments 3 times back to back after losing against meme builds. So unlikable that guy.
That was Tequilla's tournaments he is still active on VL and HB's tourney scene
@@riderofrohan8894 Thanks for correcting me, I must have mixed it up. What does VL stand for?
@@MJ-gg1ef Vermin League, that's Human Boy's ladder for competitive players (if you didn't know)
He did play like a coward tho
@@jerjerbonks451 Turin wanted max degeneracy this faction war and kislev is the max degen faction lol
That Khorne/Counts game was so cathartic
Demons of Slaanesh vs Empire gave me Teutoburg forest flashbacks. The biggest mistake was that empire left it's formation wide open.
Man. That Kislev SE build was straight from the sweat pits! 😆
no resummons, no mercy!
warms my heart to see aerocrastic
and ya, nerf kislev
Was really hoping Aero could go all the way, but there was no way he was going to beat Kislev with both arms tied behind his back.
Glorious! I think you did the right thing not inviting the Dark Lord Pwn, though, he’s just too dominant.
Aero won our hearts
1:05:35 "the Vampire Counts are looking a little barebones"
Aero played exceptionally well, he was definitely the best to watch in this tournament!
Yes, that was amazing to watch, but it was so satisfying for me to watch my beloved high elves fight so hard, that player is very skilled. I would love to see more people bringing the high elves, even though they are not an OP or a spam faction they are just so exciting to watch.
Too bad he got outed because CA specifically classified Snow Leopards to circumvent SE limits.
I think the Long Drong Slayers are problematic. Them having a strong debuff is fine, but since they're Unbreakable, they get to provide it even when one struggling model is left in a blob, like in the Lizardmen match. It should be disabled when they reach 25% hp remaining.
Damn so poor start play from the slaneesh player against dwarves
Last empire game gelt was so underused, should have chased the d. slaneesh lord
Norsca v khorne was amazing! Wolves pack was so thematic and awesome!
Lizardmen were shootin freakin lazer-beams out of their head! Great stream man
Oh shit! We got Enticity on the Dreaded Coast! He'll yeah!
I love how much effort Turin makes to build the community. But his commentary just sounds so casual.
How about a tournament, best of three matches. But the format of each match is different….one Domination, one Conquest and one Land Battle.
I also like 2v2! Large funds….hmmmm.
Pigman has evolved into the Catman
It was a treat to watch, a lot of great ideas, flexibility shown by players. Even sort of “bottom” factions had their moments to shine * gives a banana treat to the poor Monke”. Keep up the good work
Took me 3 days to get through it - but great tourney overall. Shame the finale was a bit of a bust. Kroxigor always underperform it feels like.
We've been telling CA for years that kislev is OP, and they do nothing, sorry I mean they gave them cheap halberd troops as a massive buff. Also imo one of the lamest factions in lore. f CA and kislev, no joke I've seen kislev lose about once in the last 6 months - and I watch everyone from turin, human boy, dahv plays, tactical lich, you name it. It's the most ridiculous BS that CA seem to deliberately ignore. I'm not spending a penny on dlc until they neft or delete kislev.
I know it was the point and it’s all fun and games but I’m so effing mad at op kislev. It’s just so sad so many cool games and strats and than the most boring sweat gaming steamrolls all in the last rounds just sucked the fun out of it after so many cool rounds. Worst thing is they’ve been so broken for so long. Anyway apart from that very fun tourney very much enjoying conquest mode. And dude the commentary is god tier keep it up :)
Great stream!
Loved to see my two favorite factions (High Elves and Lizardmen) make it so far into the tournament. Both seem like underdogs in these tournaments
I want sleepy lion to win because I’m a Cathay simp but I also want berserk to win because he’s so fun to watch
Had never seen aero before, he is now my favorite player after this tourney, what a legend
GGs! Would love to see more subfaction initiatives - it's thematic, challenging and can possibly uncover some hidden interactions within exising rosters
Makes sense why Kislev ran with that degenerate build….Aerocrastic is just that good you need that kinda army
I tried watching other tournament streams and it just isn't the same without Turin.
its so sad to see hadres and enticity battle in the first round, i wanted to see both pit factions win
man kislev is such a cringe faction
congrats to aerocrastic for doing my boy/girl slaanesh proud
Loved the stream, great stuff! Also, the state of Kislev is so bothersome. Hopefully CA will sort things out in a balance patch some time soon
Man I have missed these. Get to see so many cool builds and matchups that you normally don't. Also Kislev was there
You said Warcraft 3 was one of your most memorable RTS games, how hyped and then disappointing was Warcraft 3 Reforged for you??
It was really depressing...
a couple of these matches have been incredibly one-sided. are these players not used to conquest mode? or is something in the WH3 engine that makes battles more finnicky than in WH2?
BOK BOK!!!
Those are the most haggard builds I‘ve seen in a tournament in a while. It‘s absolutely fantastic!
It has been a very long time that I didn't watch any tournament. I almost forgot how good it is, such a treat, thank you Turin ! And thanks to all the players for that awesome show !
Loving the Conquest mode, I've never been a fan of Domination but I know Land Battles have a lot of cheese so this seems like a great compromise!
PS. Missing the heroes of old, Felkon, Xiphos, Soothsayer.
This has been my favorite format.
Hitman Hippo is still the winner of this tournament just for bringing the train
"Got lord mazdamundi on his toilet seat" lol.
Lord chicken win my cold lizard heart
Good tourney, shows off the faction diversity well. Aero deserves a Fiend trophy for that performance though!
Weird final not having any mobility to take out the archers for the Lizards. Almost like he expected another box build.
Great faction war tournament! Was lots of fun to watch!
Amazing tournament and a lot of fun to watch.
It's just a shame that Kislev is such and inherently unbalanced faction at the moment. They have multiple answers for everything while other factions are always having to gamble with their army build in return. The final was a good example, if Kislev go heavy on armoured Kossars and Tzar Guard then lizards need some specific expensive counters to not just get crushed, but cheap kislev warriors and kossar bows basically counter most of those tools.
CA need to get serious with their Kislev nerfs, they've been tickling them with nerfs for a long time now and they are still tyrannical. Time to hit them hard, if it is too hard then they have earned a bit of time in the pits after so long being unbalanced at the top anyway.
Aerocrastic's micro with slannesh was insanely impressive. Shame Kislev didn't get global banned. They are just not fun to watch when they are so dominant against everything else.
Other than tha obvious elephant in the room, it feels like the game is in the best balance state I can remember seeing. Nothing else feels super weak or insurmountable
took me five days of watching, but just finished.
was hoping for a berserk/aero matchup to see a khorne/slaanesh showdown.
great tourney, thanks for the stream.
Not sure why WE player brought all those wild riders against Norsca…? Skin wolves are insanely good anti-large fighters so that lost him the game in my view.
I feel like anytime BERSERK is featured it’s like rockstar performance. Just an entertaining player for sure
Feels like every Kislev win was a little bit cheesed with the Snow Leopards spam, but a win is a win and it was not against the rules, so well played.
Hey Turin, thank you for bringing back land battle format. There is just something about it, that makes it more entertaining to watch than domination.
The wacky builds are next level :)
Turin, how about a Single Faction testing tournament? Where like a team of 4 talented factions play the same faction versus every other faction in the game to test all the match ups?
So glad to see the return of land battle like tournaments and replays. It really takes me back to the unholy blobs of WH1
At the Bretonnia vs Dwarves battle. I don't understand why you would ever bring peasent bowmen against Dwarves. Sure, with the Gyrocopters and Slayers it would be fine but I still wouldn't bother. Either way, I understand it's a tough matchup for Bretonnia so I can't complain too much.
Been watching your stuff for years, and I honestly think this was my favourite video you've ever done!
That lizardmen vs dwarfs victory had me hard😁
Aerocrastic is goated
Wtf ttw lossing on tickets, the necrophinx focusing the toad woulda won that last fight
Massive, great video. Congrats and a very big thank you for all the effort and talent you put.
One great thing about solar engines is that they blind whoever they hit for 10s, a serious reduction to melee stats.
Aero might of lost, but he took half the brackets with him lol.
Great tournament!
Bro Thank you. I really enjoyed this stream.
Why are melee units so unpopular here?
Aero has always been one of my favourite players to watch. Seen him pull of some amazing come backs, off meta builds and incredible plays over the years. Very glad to see him back again :).
Really good tournament all round.
That ending fucking sucks!
God I have missed faction war. I feel that although few battles are decided by the objective, it still has a massive impact on how battles play out.
Kislev is so annoying.
Where is the dread lord pwn!!!
Order destroying Chaos, as they should
I love Faction Wars, and I'm really glad to see the series make a comeback. To be totally honest, the final match not being a best of 3 was a bit of a bummer, I feel like it really raises the stakes. If that was reinstated, I think a lot of people would be a lot more hyped.
Also, fuck Snow Leopard spam.
Hell yeah!
That was amazing, thanks to all involved...👏👏👏
Fantastic tourney, caught it live!
I saw the fire tornadoes over here in the Finnish news... hope that you and your wife stay safe