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Well, the critic to be done here is that algorithms CAN/COULD be biased based on the bias of the people who MANAGE those algorithms. We get out of the "red pill" sphere to the whole "cultural war" one to understand that.
There is some truth, yes there is some money chasing. What drives it though is the culture of misandry in the west and the arrogance of western women and contempt they display for most Men. Theywere told theywere princesses as kids and now they act like it.
the red pill is not about men hating women. The 2 main components of nearly all red pill content are 1. self improvement to become more appealing to women, and 2. how to minimize the risks that come with relationships, e.g. divorce laws, pre-nups, unequal property division, alimony, child custody battles, legal fees, false allegations, common law marriage, biased judges, marriage being short term, etc. The problem is that laws and judges are extremely unfair and unfortunately many men go into things like marriage without realizing how dangerous and damaging it is. The red pill allows men who have been badly burnt by the system, to share their experiences, so that other men in the future don't get screwed over by making silly decisions. Although the guys who have been destroyed by the system can't save themselves, it's too late for them, they can help to save their sons and other guys about to make the biggest mistakes of their lives.
Like getting them to postpone child rearing and working outside their homes instead, doubling the labor force and thus dropping wages (making employers massively rich) while turning them into competitors instead of cooperators and basically eradicating the family?
Exactly this. A lot of the reason why we think "where have the good men/ women gone??" Is because we disproportionately hear about the truly awful ones and that skews our perception
So true. I'm older and worked in public for over 30 years. I have seen vary few chick as bad as the ones I see in the videos. I feed sorry for them but we all know that bad behavior has consequences and we get to see it more every day. I would not spend more than two minuets in a room with most of these wack jobs, perhaps we should give Sterling Cooper hazard pay?
True! It kills me to see men watching a few radical feminists on tik tok and then blowing that up to all women. Very very few women are radical feminists lol
Yes, maybe its popular because it MAKES A LEGITIMATE POINT about the nature of our society and how it treats the average male vs. the average or BELOW average female
@@RKO1988 nah it just appeals to loser men who feel bad about themselves. society is as cruel and punishing to “below average” men and women alike. if women talking about feminism makes you mad that’s on you. you could choose to not care. people you consider annoying or degenerate online do not represent reality. you live in delusion if you think it does.
And since you are part of that "society", you wanna reflect just how much you might be angry at yourself. As a member of society, it is important to be aware of the extent to which we may inadvertently enable negative behaviors. At the 8:16 mark, he brings up a valid point, and I wholeheartedly agree with him. Nowadays, it appears increasingly challenging to avoid becoming part of the problem, while simultaneously easier to point fingers and criticize others for their actions. We find ourselves increasingly overwhelmed with the task of connecting the correct dots and acknowledging our individual accountability for the intricacies within the ecosystem we inhabit.
If there were no problems with divorce law, alimony, division of assets, legal fees, child custody, parental alienation, heated co-parenting, biased family court judges, etc these RP channels would go extinct. The reason these RP channels are doing so well is because millions of men are suffering and can relate to the content.
Disagree. It's at least 60% of men who have been hurt by women. Not saying RP is completely wrong, but most of the divorce narrative is cope. Many men watch this who don't even live in the US and face completely different laws and statistics...
Yeah, RP is a praxiology, a study of human behavior, for men who have been hurt and burned by women and their antisocial behavior. There's no legal recourse against women's crimes but they are free to unleash unlimited aggression toward men, destroying their lives. There's nothing you can do about it without you yourself going to jail. That's why men are walking away from this whorish insanity.
I *LIVED* through the most brutal and oppressive divorce in recorded history. I haven't seen my kids in 12 years. Women & modern f3min1sm are RUINING the world. It's so bad even Dave Chappelle had to get into the fight with some awesome jokes.
Exactly. He is ignoring the decades of unopposed male bashing that has been going on for decades, which has sparked much of the resentment toward women in some red pill videos. There are also legitimate men's issues as well, as you are saying. If he ever mentions that there is resentment against men as well, he may get a rude awakening of how taboo it is to address misandry.
Very true. I was angry about female nature at first, but once you accept it and don’t expect more from women than they are capable of you start to focus on yourself and the anger goes away. I was more angry about being lied to about women for the first 3 decades of life.
Goodness, I thought I was alone in this epiphany. I spent the first 30 years of my life figuring out relationships with women. I have learned more about them in these last 5 years than I ever did before. My father and grandfather tried talking to me about woman but it just didn't make sense. Once I realized it's their biology, their nature, and their preferences that made them who and what they are, I felt so much better. It's just how woman are and I'm OK with it. I know what I have to do now to better myself, be a more attractive male and actually value myself accordingly.
We have become so used to media that paints men in a bad light that we think nothing of it. Content exposing the toxic behavior we have as women is naturally provocative because it hasn't been mainstream or socially acceptable. That being said, there are content creators that take it to the extreme to purposely make it provocative and polarizing for more views. I believe men need to be educated on the tricks, manipulation, and emasculation they fall prey to from women, not to be angry at women, but to become wiser and stronger in their relationships with women. Nothing has been more transformational for me and my marriage than taking responsibility for my "dark side" as a woman and committing to change my behavior to bring out the goodness in me as a woman. As I changed and my husband became privy to my games, he began to stand up to me, which allowed me to develop respect, see him as a strong man, and continue to outgrow my bad behavior in our marriage. As a result, we have a loving, healthy marriage that continues to get even better as we both grow into the best version of ourselves.
Why all the contrived drama and bad behavior directed towards the man in the first place? Why do women have to constantly "test" their men with their deliberate bad behavior. It's like women are not born with empathy or compassion but have to learn it, sometimes the hard way. Women can't love men like men can love women. I thought we were supposed to be positive, progressive, more evolved, genuine people in the 21st century. Evolutionary psychology dies hard I guess.
It has been said that finding a good woman, who will treat a man right and prioritize their relationship instead of treating the vows as mere words, and the man and the marriage as disposable, is like finding a needle in a needle stack. It looks like your husband is a man who has found that special needle. Kudos to you, and sincere wishes for a long and happy life together.
Marriage, sex and childbirth rates are at all time lows, women file 80% of divorces and chronic social isolation drives people insane. Traditional women benefit from feminist laws and don't lobby for change, making them defacto feminists, so we see through your mask.
I believe the over correction in equalizing women in society coupled with the last 20 years of masculinity being vilified in this country allows for this now perceived extreme nature of men telling their side. The societal disingenuousness of what man feels Vs what a woman feels is the problem.
I hear you but I know better than to be influenced by angry men. What gets me is listening to women of all ages, education and incomes speak with implicit or explicit disdain for men.
So you're influenced by angry women. Not saying they're not angry, but being influenced by angry people regardless of gender is the trap the good Doctor is referring to.
@@Fredjoe5 I think he's referring to the way this contempt has become culturally engrained, almost fashionable. It's not driven by anger or personal experiences.
The billion dollar business is men worshiping women, serving women, catering to women, and hating men. It is wild that once men just start to speak about the unbalance nature of the relationships it becomes we are hating and etc. This is crazy but to disrespect men, call all men cheaters, dogs, prevs, and the list goes on, that is completely fine
Oh shit, when put that way, 90% of consumer spending being done by women makes perfect sense from an economic and political standpoint. As a dyed in the wool life long capitalist, I absolutely despise this. There is no correcting this machine.
Humanity will soon discover (again) why women were treated the way they were, througout centuries. It's a hard to swallow pill, but we are experiencing it first hand.
So true, we the viewers are the ones building our own prison by continuing to click negative content. Click positive and up lifting content and see difference it will make, not just in the algorithm but in your own life!
@@jaythenihilist4689 I’ve grown to realize it is way too easy for Women to attract men in real life… Just the mere fact of them using A dating app is A 🚩
@@jaythenihilist4689 what % of couples meet on dating apps? In a world where a man can have his life destroyed because he looked in a woman's direction would it not be wiser to use an app for dating thus removing the chance of talking to a women who finds you unattractive in that moment and potentially ruining your life! Maybe keep your advice to yourself.
It's business everywhere. Anger AT America is a big seller outside of the U.S. They're just as brainwashed as they think we are. Parochial prejudices monetized by "balanced" media. What a business model.
The RP is important despite the grifters. At no point in my life have I hated women. Having experienced some of the things the RP exposes, I'm more accepting of reality than anything.
I was thinking the same. Then I realized that the exceptions ("unicorns") are extremely rare and by and large what these channels are saying is overwhelmingly true. It was extremely hard pill to swallow.
That women are people? And people are selfish? Same is menfolk also. Chad and Tyrone don't make the rest of look good. Same naivety of yourself is the same in the women. Naivety = why would someone treat another person like that, I wouldn't....
@@williammentink that by and large women treat men in relationships as consumers treat service providers. They have no connection, no bond, no love, no attachment and very, very few common interests (because all their interests revolve around their looks). While the dude usually TRULY AND GENUINELY loves, adores, helps, cherishes and encourages. And, of course, contributes financially.
Well… my idea on unicorns (as a tale) is that there were actually 2 of them in Noah’s ark but these were male twins who decided that they neither wanted to separate nor else (like their maybe more aloof kin) and thus one mimicked the female, with Noah not getting it, of course. later on, there wasn’t procreation as species, of course, just lots of inter-species intercourse, with more or less success in offspring. Thus, expecting | looking for xx-unicorns to mate won’t get anyone very far, and disguise can be considered wired into their nature (of all with related ancestry) anyway.
Unfortunately my lived experience with dating apps, narcissists, liars, disloyalty and borderlines over multiple interactions with women led me to these channels rather than the other way around.
@@seabreeze4559 Sometimes personality disorders do attract each other. But you know who else tends to attract personality disorders? Codependent people. "Nice" people. The fact that a person is targeted by someone with a personality disorder doesn't mean that person themselves also has a personality disorder. I'd say that's a minority of all cases.
In my personal experience, most women are pretty awful. But I have removed those videos from my life because they're manipulative, tribalistic and unhelpful. I'm not mad at women any more than I'm mad at a rusty nail I stepped on by mistake. I suffered from a very common disease: unrealistic expectations. I'm cured now.
Noone hates wmn, many people cannot discern between MGTOW and MRAs MRAs capitlize on red pill rage and the rage baiting. These are male feminists. MGTOW fights a broken system, we don't hate wmn nor do we even blame them. There's a huge difference, one being MRAs are aligned to the broken system and outright advocates for men to hate and treat women like crap and never to fix yourself before persuing a healthy relationship. MGTOW advocates for men to grow,fix your trauma and to guard your wallet. We never advocate for sex outside the confines of a marriage, not do we agree or accept hurting women. Theres a huge difference and yet somehow MGTOW is labelled the extremists for advocating abstenance until healed and financialy stable
You make an excellent point. I believe it is necessary for young men to take their career, investments and minimalist lifestyle to the max until about age 35. Then, if one can find a "reasonable" woman, and proper legal advice from a professional county prosecuting attorney, then one can proceed cautiously with involvement with a woman. If one wishes something like marriage, better to have a legally drawn up contract by both parties, then a "one-size-fits-all" marriage.
Admittedly there’s a catharsis in watching these channels which are alluring. It’s not beyond me that I’ve allowed clickbait thumnails, titles, and conversations to hijack the part of my brain that’s looking for validation from past experiences in which I was unfairly treated. However, continuing to feed into that has developed a victimhood mindset that’s challenging to break. Because there is legitimate cause for concern and righteousness indignation. It requires a balance in recognizing how things are without cultivating limiting beliefs or disempowering traits. A part of me wants justice. A part of me wants revenge. A part of me wants the world to fix itself. But how likely are these things going to happen? The best thing is equipping myself with this knowledge and making better choices going forward. Learning to let go, build my own life, and position myself with leverage to do what I want unhindered.
They do that all by themselves, Men are angry or done from their own personal experiences with them, nothing more or less. Perhaps some younger guys who've never been in love or shared a home with a Woman are latching onto a movement or content, but anyone else has lived their experience and that's why they want no part anymore.
If younger men are doing as you say, then they are choosing to learn from the experiences of other men, rather than to blindly make the same mistakes. That is wisdom. Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.
I once convinced FaceBook to stop showing me dating ads by clicking on a bunch of electronics ads. Guess these companies paid FB a bunch of money for a click even though I immediately closed their webpage. Perhaps we're the ones training the algorithm.
@@ErikLiberty I was in sceptic/atheist communities on facebook and got ads for strange religious cult like pages, cause they put me in the category "interested in spiritual topics" I assume
I don’t think it’s a matter of “making men mad at women”. I think we’ve gotten to the point that if men talk about how women claim they want a nice man who treats them well, yet they ignore those men and instead choose the bad boy who treats them like crap, that’s then interrupted as “hating women”.
Women are typically more than willing to trade off being treated like crap in order to secure the attention and/or provisioning of a man that they perceive as being of equal or (ideally) higher "value" than them. Often such men already have other women indicating their interest in him and making themselves available to him/being receptive to his attention and reciprocating that attention. What is "value" ... any combination of looks, charm, intelligence/humor, income/wealth, social status and "pre-selection" by other women.
The only way to trap a man is for him to be ignorant on how things work, that way he will take maximum risks and be used until he as nothing to offer anymore. 50 years of successful brainwashing was paying off, that is until men start posting videos on how to get unplugged. You can see the rant that woman post every day, they just can not understand why men do not worship them anymore, do not wife them, do not spend $ on them . . . . this is the world that women created, men are just adapting to it very slow
The bad boy is not wanted because he treats them like crap. That's nice guy accusations. Bad boys just know how to trigger attraction, be direct, and lead the women sexually. Bad boys will try to sleep with a woman on the first date, nice guys will show up with a box of chocolate and flowers and hope to sleep with her on the 4th date. That doesn't make them 'nice', it makes them pussies.
@@max_rove So between the two she'd still rather be with the guy who treats her like crap but knows how to manipulate her into sleeping on the first date? That's the better choice? You say the bad boy isn't wanted but that's the one they always seem to pick.
@@BloodyHeck what do you mean by manipulate her into sleeping with him? I just don't understand why wanting to sleep with a woman quickly is manipulation. You don't think women enjoy sex? Do you think women always need a long courtship before they want to bang? See that kind of thought process makes one a nice guy...
The problem with speaking factually about the negative behavior of women is that you can't say it anywhere without women going nuts or people blowing you off. You either get shamed or gaslighted. Both of these are amazingly frustrating when confronting the honest assessment on female behavior, and i think only amplifies an already angry person. There's plenty to be angry at, also plenty to be grateful for. No need to add to the misery
The red pill is a wake-up call for men, you must do your due diligence, women are not sugar and spice and everything nice, just as all men are not good relationship material. But many women don't take accountability for their actions, and that makes then extremely dangerous.
Women make it way too easy to hate them. However, a natural path of acquiring wisdom involves leaving the righteous anger behind. Indifference is the ultimate goal.
No, righteous anger has its place. It's just hurt anger that we need to transform into constructive actions. Women kill societies with their behavior and it has to stop.
My turning point was when after 20 years of full-time experience in IT in different countries, roles, jobs etc. I realized that I've never seen a woman working in IT who could be called "professional" even remotely. I asked my male friends in the same field and every single one of them confirmed similar experience. It must be very sad to be "gender other than man" (don't want this comment to be deleted) - they fail at a workplace and as mothers.
@@edheldude Agreed. To expand on my original comment, anger is a valid emotion. There is rationality behind righteous anger. We can use this anger (or any other emotion) as a motivator for constructive behaviour. Instead of "leaving it behind" I should have said to not let it be your foundation. Don't let yourself be defined by it. After going through the process of sorting out our emotions and thinking critically about the relationship issue, positive objective is to lead a life with inner peace regarding the decisions we make.
I'm 44 years old and I wish this content had existed when I was younger. The amount of broken, divorced men in my age group is just sad to watch. I started to consume red pill and pick up artist content after my divorce, used it in my dating life and it actually worked. Really opened my eyes to how women actually are. Young men! Focus on yourself, the days of men working hard for their families are over. It still can work but you take a very high risk.
And by worked you mean you're just as lonely as ever? Cause I can only imagine the type of people who would fall for any of that crap unless their self esteem was already in the tanker
100%, correct. If this type of information was available 2030 years ago, my life would’ve been completely different. Better, more peaceful, more confident.
I was getting angry with women before the rise of those channels, they just helped me to understand why. More importantly though was that it was typical male vs female behaviors and how to navigate.
It's the other way around. The most tough minded men, with an above average IQ, got angry at individual women before these types of videos were a thing. Now these videos point men in the right direction and show the red flags of women and how they really think. It's more like: the customer was already ready and there, and they delivered what it wanted.
exactly. i was just thinking the same. My point(s) come from real life experience, not just because i watched some " women hater" videos, who actually describe what you already see outside in real life. Then of course these channels are made to capitalize on that (the guys explains it very well), but the core of the matter remains actually the same.
Truth in this for sure. The problem is that the Red Pill has picked up so much steam that there's definitely some people acting in bad faith and their takes are being spread and mixed in with some of the good advice. The whole "Red Pill Rage" element is very real but every man will move on from it. Where you move on from it is still pretty important though and you as an individual are the only one in control of that. Learning what you can from the experience of others and adapting your own life with that knowledge is important, but you don't want to wallow in the misery of the shit situation we're in with the current dating market. Try to gravitate to things that make you happy instead of things that make you angry. It's hard to do, but it's the correct move.
"The most tough minded men, with an above average IQ, got angry at individual women before these types of videos were a thing." I love these vast generalisations. You'd almost think that if you're not angry at women, you're not tough minded or smart. O, and btw, I can bet that the more angry these "tough" guys are, the less success they have with women. (they're not that tough or intelligent after all?) So, yeah, it's quite obviously big business to make men angry at women and to keep them that way. And yes, a lot of the customers joined the train because they already were angry. There wouldn't be a business if that wasn't the case. Just like it was being argued in this video.
@@Luykx Toughminded and smart men are one of the most likely candidates to notice female nature on their own. Less tough minded men tend to be more idealistic and buy into society's bs. While less intelligent men are less likely to notice the patterns.
Oh, yes. I noticed the same thing a few months ago, which is why I unsubscribed from several of these RP channels.I understand their message, and there is truth in what they say, but they deliver it in the most toxic and triggering way. But, at the end of the day, the dynamic is simple: they want to get your attention, keep you hooked up on their content, and then earn money from ad revenue. Not to mention their BS courses and private consultations that they advertise. I always say that RP should be a stage in every man's life because it teaches you a lot about female nature and how disposable we are as men in the eyes of a society that appears to be designed to f*ck us up in every way if we let our guard down. Given what we know about how the system works, it's understandable that most men are now refusing to play or navigate the game in a different way. My final point is to approach their content in an educational manner, learn about it, and move on. Stay away from the toxic content. Most of these "Dating Gurus," "Self Improvement Guys," and "PUAS" are a mental mess, with unresolved life issues and even actual hatred or low self-esteem. Most of them should go to therapy instead of preaching about self-improvement and other nonsense.
A man is only loved on the condition that he provides something. Women only date up (hypergamy) . They don't build with you. So why should I let one enjoy the benefits of my hard work? What's she bringing to the table ?
How many times have you met a woman who said something really, really funny? Or really insightful? Or made you see life in a different light? ...Me neither....
@@jobunny919 Well one time a woman accused me with raping her, wich was totally false. As a young man I was shocked, and didn't understand... Yes I was actually a victim, and when you are young, you don't know yourselves, you don't know woman is NOT man, you get the victim state EZ... You know... For long time I didn't understand forxample, why a lady beg for relationship, more than sex, so when I gave her more emotions, and I said okay to the relationship, she left me literally next day, and cheated on me... I don't feel like I play anything. As a young man I was shocked about womans real nature, because it looked different in the movies...
@@adriantomole1019 You're right. I reacted because I am tired of the daily beat down by m3n on the internet. I don't know his story and I was defensive.
Men are already mad at women for gaming dating and marriage. Most women go after the top 1% of men based on wealth and looks. Everybody else gets crumbs. So naturally men are going to click on men's channels in order to learn more. However, those channels do get repetitive.
@@seabreeze4559 Marriage, sex and childbirth rates are at all time lows and I'm well known for saying no to all women, like many other men I'm not stupid.
@@seabreeze4559 Only white men as a group pay net taxes so browning is collapse, thus without white children we'll collapse financially, which us already happening. Women live life on easy mode until they're childless and alone. Fortunately, chronic social isolation drives people insane.
🤔 Ten or 12 years ago I realized something was amiss in my marriage and set about correcting it. It has been an arduous task. What I’ve learned is that I am primarily responsible for the issues in my marriage because of the Crouching Tiger analogy earlier this week. Ironically the person who opened my eyes to the reality that there was indeed something horribly wrong was the comedian Bill Burr! I found myself in an endless loop (Emerson Eggrich refers to it as the crazy cycle) with my beloved when conflict arose and we would be bouncing off a bunch of non-critical path issues. Burr taught me that women can branch endlessly as a way of avoiding responsibility. They’ll go “12 deep” in an argument and guys gave up trying to track them all after 3. This required a new approach on my part so rather than addressing all of her concerns believing falsely she would address mine I thwarted her first maneuver by simply saying “we can talk about that if you want but it has nothing to do with the issue we’re discussing.” if she tried to branch 12 times I’d say the same thing 12 times. I encouraged her to get out a notepad and write down her concerns and we would come back to them after we addressed the one that I brought up to begin with. Her concerns with me were not an explanation or a justification for her behavior. It was a diversion. I’ll take ownership of my actions if you’ll take ownership of yours. It took a long long time for this to begin to come around. She was incensed that I quit playing the game. I don’t think she actually knew that I quit playing the game. She just knew that she wasn’t getting the same result as she had for the previous couple of decades. 😂 I think content creators are jumping on topics that they know resonate and it just so happens that the topics contain a lot of truth! Feminism has run roughshod over men for 60 years and we’ve allowed it to happen but now we’re mad as hell and will not take it anymore! 😠 Bring on the content. We need a constant reminder to hunker down and stay the course.
Brilliantly done. My question is this..... how is a man meant to respect anyone (let alone his wife) that consistently engages in such behavior and with such an attitude?
@@JJ-wi2uw He is not to respect them. He is to assume his authority as a man, not to oppress them but keep making them see their stupid ways. Maybe by the time you make he see how illogical her ways are over and over she'll either resent you and quit or come to her senses and accept your authority. Either outcome is good for you.
@@JJ-wi2uw it’s a matter of,as it was put to me, teaching someone the way they should behave with you and around you. I drew a line in the sand and stood firm and fought the battles focused on that line in the sand rather than everything else they tried to make it. If someone has a good heart, and good intentions, you’ll be able to tell and it’s worth staying the course with them to give them time to correct behaviors that you allowed to happen. That was the toughest pill for me to swallow that it was really my fault. I let it continue on for too long before I figured out what was happening. And the real issue I think is respecting yourself rather than worrying about whether you respect them.
I am so grateful that I encountered this video of yours - I consumed so much of these contents and as you said they're pretty much all the same. They make me so angry at women - and I am a woman myself. Dating might be hard, for men or women, but there are good men and women out there, if you work on yourself and you know where to look. These contents blow things out of proportion as they only focus on bad women. It's a good business, but if the consumer fully buys into it, believing there are no good women out there, and they're victims of this terrible world, that's not good. Keep your cool man.
I’ve been married for the past 9 years. I listen to some stuff online for entertainment purposes only. I take everything I hear with a grain of salt 🧂.
Some content, such as hard data and statistics, can be useful in getting a bearing on where you are headed in life. Divorce rate is 90% for women with 6+ bodycount, 6% for virgin at marriage. Which one is your wife? Plan accordingly for what's likely to come.
You and your wife are in control of your marriage. Fuck the world. Fuck the statistics. If you've made it 9 years you're already well beyond the length of most marriages that end in divorce. As long as you two are in it together and trust each other (and don't let outsiders fuck up what you two have control over) you'll be fine. My grandparents were married for 67 years (grandma recently died) and were married at 15. If I listened to everything I heard on the internet they'd have me not believing my own eyes and would tell me that's impossible.
I'm fascinated by this stuff, as a subject that will never hit close to home for me - I'm an old homo. I think if I were a young straight guy who'd never been successful with women, I'd find it too painful.
Red pill rage is legit and definitely can turn toxic. I had to stop watching certain creators so I could get past it and accept things as they are. I try to unplug every once in a while to go somewhere I enjoy to recharge. As with any business the man o swamp has its grifters. You encourage us to use logic and to think so we make better decisions to improve our lives. So I appreciate your objective view on many topics.
The Red Pill taught me a lot. But I take Bruce Lee’s philosophy towards it: “Absorb what is useful, discard what is not. Add what is uniquely your own.”
Making men angry in politics is big business too. I removed myself from the dating market decades ago after years of frustrations and failed attempts. Recently I stumbled onto these channels and find solace and comraderie in men who have had the same experience. They strip away the candy coating and expose the true nature of women. Still, their is a risk of becoming jaded toward all women, and this is unhealthy and unfair.
Men are not angry at women from these content creators. Men are angry at women because of their outrageous behavior in their personal lives. Men are astounded at how society is supporting the outrageous behavior of women in their personal lives. For example try talking to your wife into anything that she is completely opposed to ... ANYTHING ... and you will find out why men are angry at women.
Also, females live life in easy mode. They’re born with value. Everything is given to them and simps will always be there to give them attention and resources
This is a really good point. If there were no problems with divorce law, alimony, division of assets, legal fees, child custody, child support, child support modifications, parental alienation, heated co-parenting, these RP manosphere channels would die. The reason these RP manosphere channels are doing well is because millions of men are suffering and can relate to the content.
@@marriagecausesdivorce7540 Exactly. The knowledge side of TRP is still important, I think what this video was about was just spreading the awareness that you also don't want to just be used as a consumer to support elevating bad takes, because as he stated sensational headlines is a business. But as you stated, this stuff wouldn't be so successful if we didn't have so many men that can easily empathize with these situations that are being reported in these videos and stories.
Amazing video. I watch sensationalized videos from time to time, but keep in mind the context that the main goal the creators have is to grow and maintain an audience to make money. Not enough people look at polarizing videos through that lens and become zombified, parroting the sensationalized message. I wish we lived in a world where people thought more. Channels like this will help us get there. Thanks for what you do. :)
This is the video I've been waiting for.. in general, not specifically from you. I appreciate your knowledge, factuality and neutrality; and your desire to share. Great stuff, Orion! 👍
And doing what you do is also a business (but that is OK). Everything around here is a business, or at least advertising (which has essentially the same aim). 😄
The point is that he has credentials and can make social psychology comments as an scientist and clinical psychologist. Th red pill man most of them cannot.
I have a few friends totally wrapped up in this type of content. They deeply believe it applies to all women. I see the same beliefs on the internet. But since I became much more social I've seen the truth, the junk they circle jerk about apples to a tiny minority of women, like 1/100 or less. Women just aren't like that. The belief can't survive contact with enough real people.
I have listened to redpill & MGTOW content for years. The information, experiences and advice have been priceless. There have been good content creators and bad ones also. Overall, my experience is I am not angry with women (in general). Rather, I understand (most) womens' general female nature better. That makes me more cautious with women (in general). You did not mention most women end their marriages years after they made their contract committment to marriage. We have learned marriage means ego trips and future earnings for most women. Men lose their wives, children, house, reputation, assets, IRAs and more during divorce. I know this is true. It happened to me, too. Subtract more loss with 20+ years of child support. MARRIAGE SUCKS. Women have become undatable.
Women absolutely HAVE become undatable and marriage is a terrible deal for the vast majority of men; unless you have a rock-solid prenuptial agreement to act as a strong deterrent.
Here's my problem with this argument, most of the things manosphere accounts post content from is coming directly from women themselves. Oftentimes, the clips aren't even taken out of context, and women aren't reading off a script - they're voluntarily deciding to say what they say. Much of the content is taken straight off women's social media pages too in case people want to argue they were 'pressured' into responding a certain way. If we're being honest, the real 'issue' is the complete lack of accountability for women.
I've been saying this a lot lately. I've been trying to be less of a consumer. There's this part of me that wants to eventually become a creator (once I financially won't need it) to tell people to "get the f**k off social media," where my goal will be to grow my audience with the hope that it'll die or slowly grow soon after. I can't be the only one that's noticed its negative impact. Like you say, perverse incentives on all fronts.
I completely agree that there are many who have made men angry at women as a way to gain views on RUclips, but this does not mean that the situation is not bad and that most women are now unfit for serious relationships , The mere fact that this type of content gets many followers from men is evidence that many men are fed up with modern women
If we lived in a society where the worst of men were allowed to run rough over women with no repercussions, I wouldn't blame women at all for hating men. The world we live in at the moment is just the opposite. Your last video about Crouching Tiger was however, spot on. The reason we are in this sad state is because men willingly gave up the sword.
In time, young men and boys will be looking to societies where women are kept in check, wondering if such places might actually be onto something. Already today, our suffering breeds antipathy. It's funny how SJWs never see that the more they keep pushing, the more they amplify a black fire. The more time that keep passing, the more we will regard our feministic predecessors as absolute fools. "We gave them so much, yet they kept asking for more" will become the new narrative (as it already is gradually). Personally, I would not mind if the women were to lose anything and everything. I just hope the potential collective quest for vengeance does not go as far as child sexual abuse and genital mutilation. If anything, the children should be protected from brainwashed adults. But as for corrupted women, be my guest. They need more than just a reality check.
You do have a point but it is women themselves that give these men a whole factory of reasons for the content they relay. I must say I have learnt a great deal about female nature from many in the Red Pill community, much of it is absolutely spot on. It has made me value myself infinitely more, and know that the boundaries I set are directly related to my worth as a man and done very much for my peace of mind.
I think PsychHacks is correct. Seeing the extremes of female behavior makes it easier to see and to understand the more minute behaviors, but it is also true that most women are not doing the kinds of extreme things that we hear about so frequently in the manosphere.
@@alexp7274 I don’t know. I know a lot of women, ages 30 on up. The extreme stories I read are about women divorce-r**ing men, or going to clubs every weekend and cheating on their husbands, and so on and so forth. When I look at the 30-somethings and 40-somethings today, I do see some of that, but I also see loyal wives out there. So I don’t think every woman is divorce-r**ing and such. The figures we have are that 50% of marriages end in divorce, which means half of the time that that is NOT happening. That’s a substantial percentage.
@@LionKimbro the important question to ask is: are the 50% that are not divorced actually happy? Women initiate 80% of divorces. The cold fact is that a lot of men do not seek divorce because they know that they'll end up far worse financially and with their children, so they suck it up. I saw a study not too long ago that said only 2% of marriages are happy in the West. 2% of 50% is 1%. Which means that 99% of marriages either end up in divorce or are unhappy. Those are the real statistics for you.
@@alexp7274 well wait- the 2% wouldn’t be the unhappy ones. So it would be 4% of the non-divorced. Still grim figures, but I point it out because it’s important to remember to be cautious with statistics. As it is, I think that marriage as an institution is doomed. I have to remember that my friends are not necessarily representative of the entire country. For example, the Amish are the fastest growing us population of the United States, for a long time. Even though I never see them. The Mormons are quite solid about family as well. So, hard to say. Have to remember that when we are talking about populations, we are looking at the world from within our own sub population. But as far as the population of men that I know- I’m white, middle class, liberal- and I can see the writing on the walls: Marriage is humiliating, antagonistic to men, “word has gotten out,” and the institution is as dead as a door nail, and I can’t imagine what would bring it back. I’m seeing lots of women choosing to be single mothers, raising children with other women!, I know of one young mother who found a man to raise a child with and was quite explicit about the terms of their raising the child together- I think we are going to see institutionalized single motherhood by choice, and more pressure for state support of child rearing, and increased pushback by men. Long term: Japanese-created biosacks so that men can reproduce entirely on their own. Is it out of the question? I do not think so…. But it seems more likely to me than marriage coming back.
Yes. It is a business. And trying to stop men from getting (justifiably or unjustifiably) angry is also a business. Everything is business in this capitalistic world. The question that needs to be asked is not if it is a business. The question should be: "Are the facts and concepts that I see useful or not?"
I think there’s a period of realization and anger a lot of dudes get to, especially after being screwed over, learning everything they knew was a lie. You can’t stay in that rage forever. Some do though. Some aspects of it that I applied personally have wrecked some otherwise pretty good future prospects. Not wrong, but not exactly right. Other aspects like self improvement though are incredible what they can do for a man on his mission understanding he has to put in the work. Great channel Doc, always tune in 👍
I think the reason these content creators even exist in the first place is because there is demand. Why is there demand? Because feminism and modern media has vilified men and lawmakers with the biased court system, the dismissal of men's and boys' problems in the workplace, school have indeed angered men to a point that a lot of people have noticed that there is a possibility of monetization of this anger.
It has been surprisingly easy to spot this trend, specially on ytube. Now I cant see new content about (f.e vaxxx8nes) without getting 10 videos about women this women that, men this men that.
Doc, thank you for not limiting the content only to women and for the work you are doing on this channel. All you said is plain truth. And thanks for pointing out the fact about RUclips (besides others), I admit it's quite hard to limit time spent watching videos on various subjects, some do have some educational value, but it takes more time to learn something new as the information is somehow recycled.
There is an avalanche of "hand-picked" examples of bad female behavior. Examples of bad female behavior are so common and easy to find that it's safe to assume that women really ARE that bad.
As a fan of learning & reality, I'm so glad you made this video, it has directly allayed some of my fears for your channel which is currently providing SOLID information congruent with my own personal experiences both pleasant & unplesant. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, may the status and financial incentive never tempt you into joining the hellscape.
I would love to see a video on some aspects of cherry picking and overhype that red pill channels engage in. I understand that the information is hyped but it’s hard to understand what is true about most woman in society when your experiences also align with the red pill content.
This is my precise concern. I want men to be successful in their relationships of choice. I want men to be justifiably optimistic. I want them to be aware of potential pitfalls, but still hopeful for their futures.
This is true. Luckily for me it didn't take long to navigate Red Pill content. At first it was definitely an emotional rollercoaster. But when I looked at myself and understood we're all a product of the world we live in. By understanding this its really just as simple as being what I need to be for the outcomes i want, and only give to those that're deserving of what i offer. Which frankly is not many. Social media has deluded so many people that it's really difficult to develop mature healthy relationships. Though i can't be mad at that, rather understand it and more forward.
Dr. Taraban, your analysis of youtubers reminds me of the position of film director in the movie industry. In the early years of cinema, directors were men of age, with experience in fields outside of entertainment and they took that knowledge with them into their process of making movies. If movies did not work out for them, they could go back to another career or profession, no harm, no foul, typically. Today, most filmmakers are young, lack experience and know they want to work in the movie biz, come what may, which makes them very pliable by those in charge. I very much prefer a RUclips channel such as yours where it is obvious you are not chasing the clicks and you only explore topics that would engage you first, then your audience. We are engaged because we can tell you're fascinated by the research and reaching conclusions. Working on things that bore us simply because of money makes us slaves. Network was a great film. What are your thoughts on Marshall McLuhan and Neil Postman? I really liked your analysis on market forces leading the masses. More of this would be really interesting. Thanks again, doctor.
Or the women are making men angry at woman. The redplill content just verifies what we experienced dating as a man lol. Not all are bad but my God, so much immaturity, vanity, and hanging out at the finish line and not caring about men seems the vast majority. It is never what is best about us. That what we have to do to earn her attention which I find disgusting. Some unicorns do exist but they are with their husbands unfortunately.
it absolutely is cherry picked, and aimed at exactly people like you. Then they make money from your anger cause they portray a few women as something, and you believe its every single one, no matter what culture or country. Women are half of the world population, they are not a monolith.
@@SPACEDOUT19 I've been around for some time and have seen some things... yes, statistically "not all women are"... but overwhelmingly they're not that different and more or less their behavior is described by the manosphere channels. No, it's not related to country or times, it was always like that, but the society was keeping the truth from men (because women were always present and prevented the truth from being spread). The truth is that women can experience a true love only towards criminals, thugs etc.
@@WildMidwest1 yes, women are experiencing true, real love only toward dark triad men, preferrably with criminal history. They absolutely adore them. But they gaslight us, because it’s disgusting to tell the truth.
I have to say, as a fellow therapist in the field im usually pretty disappointed by the lack of intellect displayed, but my hat is off to you on how well you articulate and dissect these issues. Kudos to you sir.
As a husband and a father of three daughters, I wouldn't say that I am angry at women. I see what you are saying about grifting off the clickbait and algorithms, but the world has always been full of temptations. In the earliest days of the USA, the media was full of lies and slander, and the politicians played a lot of dirty games. Sound familiar? "Snake Oil" sales became a meme well over a century ago. Even so, modern feminism is full of plenty to criticize. From participation trophies to corrupted compassion in a hundred forms, toxic femininity has done a LOT of damage to society and standards of civility. "Feelings Uber Alles" is the word of the day, at the expense of logic, reason, fairness, principle, and you name it. It's more toxic than cobra venom.
People are drawn to messages that they identity with and that resonate with personal experiences or desires. Hence the popularity of prosperity preachers, get rich quick scams, and of course RP content. The first two for desires, the last from experience. RP customer's are seeking empathy, understanding and self control again and the creators albeit temporarily are providing that service.
When you have certain types of experiences with the opposite sex and you have no idea what's going on you're left to work it out yourself or talk to trusted people. Then the internet comes along and all of a sudden it all makes sense. Somebody's making bank off of this information?! Say it ain't so....
I consider myself red pilled when it comes to women. When you become red pilled you go through an anger phase when you realize that things don’t work the way you’ve been told and there are a lot of content creators profiting from that. You have to accept women for what they are and move on. Avoid watching videos of bona fide gold diggers or tatted up single moms behaving badly and focus on yourself instead. At the same time ignore the true nature of the current social order and women’s biological imperatives at your own peril.
Much needed clarity on this topic. Unfortunately not everyone has the clarity of thought to recognize their role in creating the problems they claim to oppose (bad gender relationship dynamics) and if they do not everyone has the moral fortitude to take responsibility and change their tune.
You´re not wrong, but same is true about making women angry at men and that "business" has started much earlier. Both genders are pitched against each other by the media for decades and unfortunately the most extreme opinions are often the ones who gain most traction.
I agree with this message. There's a lot of negative talk about women on the internet, but my experience in real life tells me they're mostly not that bad. They're generally not as interested in me as I would like them to be, but that's hardly a moral failing.
i have noticed myself that over the past year these channels are focusing more on showing examples of videos from tik tock and the likes of the crazy types whereas in the past channels would talk about the relationship psychology and red flags regarding XX...i suppose it gets more viewers and thus more money
Lots of truth in this video. I don't agree with all of your takes, but yea men need to remember that at some point some of the manosphere stuff just becomes an echo chamber and needs to be tapered a bit. There's a reason why "going your own way" requires you to typically step away from worrying about all this shit to begin with. Either way, as someone who spent most of my college time in Psyc courses, your takes are usually a welcome change of pace. Would love to see you sit down with Chris Williamson so he can pick your brain about the current state of things.
Just say that you and all the other Red Pillers are mad that the tables turned on them. Just say you're pissed women are taking back some power in society.
Taking back power? Sweetheart, you wouldn't have any power if it wasn't for men giving it to you. Your name is accurate because you really are silly. lol@@sillyNstressed
My main issue with the "your own way" creators for example is that the entire point of that philosophy is doing your own thing yet 95% of videos they make is about raging at a specific article or something. Yeah marriage is a raw deal and whatever but what they "should" be talking about is how to live independent happy and secure lives and they are just sparking outrage.
This is true, but most people that aren't just grifters are trying to spread awareness of WHY they had to go their own way to begin with. It's still an important message to put out there considering that 100% of main stream media informs men that they are stupid and they need to find a woman to chain themselves to but they deliver a very different message to women. This hypocrisy is exactly what "your own way" creators tend to point out. Just try to find a commercial that has a man and a woman in it that doesn't play off how stupid the man is. It's pretty hard to do.
The idea is to help _other Men_ to freedom - not just escape a trap yourself! I had no idea that the court system was _so_ biased against Men until I was alerted by knowlegeable Men.
Not exactly. BetterBachelor has bought a piece of land on the cheap and moved cross country. He is showing and talking about how he is building his house and getting to know his neighbours while cutting down on his screen time and how when the house is built how he will spend more time with manly friends hunting and riding his motorcycle while also start growing more food for himself. Leading by example.
Thanks for the content. I appreciate nuanced positions. There is however an emerging vilification of men and masculinity (see apa division wrt to this) in society that is resulting in deaths of despair, falling behind in schools, and legal/family issues (especially in divorce) for men and boys. The many who are falling behind are understandably seeking out community in these often overstated RP channels.
These things existed way before modern social media. One of the first to really delve into this world was Neil Strauss who revealed this sub-culture in his book _The Game._ The are many branches and they all prey on insecure men who are mostly looking for a meaningful relationship, tho most of the marketing is on how to get laid. For that reason alone it puts a lot of women off. They scoff at it and call it cheating, while merrily putting on their makeup themselves. With that said, a lot of the advice given on these sites is objectively bad and misleading, even though it's given with the best of intentions. Here's the best advice you'll ever get: If you're not willing to go out and learn, then you will never get anywhere. Even doing things wrong is better than not doing them at all. So, same exact advice as for hitting the gym. Just do it. 99% of the challenge of this problem is simply to meet up and do the work. From there on, you _will_ improve, almost no matter what you try. Both in the gym, and in love. Wish you the best! Skål!
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Well, the critic to be done here is that algorithms CAN/COULD be biased based on the bias of the people who MANAGE those algorithms. We get out of the "red pill" sphere to the whole "cultural war" one to understand that.
There is some truth, yes there is some money chasing. What drives it though is the culture of misandry in the west and the arrogance of western women and contempt they display for most Men. Theywere told theywere princesses as kids and now they act like it.
the red pill is not about men hating women. The 2 main components of nearly all red pill content are 1. self improvement to become more appealing to women, and 2. how to minimize the risks that come with relationships, e.g. divorce laws, pre-nups, unequal property division, alimony, child custody battles, legal fees, false allegations, common law marriage, biased judges, marriage being short term, etc. The problem is that laws and judges are extremely unfair and unfortunately many men go into things like marriage without realizing how dangerous and damaging it is. The red pill allows men who have been badly burnt by the system, to share their experiences, so that other men in the future don't get screwed over by making silly decisions. Although the guys who have been destroyed by the system can't save themselves, it's too late for them, they can help to save their sons and other guys about to make the biggest mistakes of their lives.
@@marriagecausesdivorce7540 can't tell cheek spreaders anything.
Is this not what your channel is about too. You also have a lot of redpill and black pill talking points
And making women mad at men is even bigger business for the mainstream media.
Catering to women's innate solipsistic tendencies is a massive earner.
Like getting them to postpone child rearing and working outside their homes instead, doubling the labor force and thus dropping wages (making employers massively rich) while turning them into competitors instead of cooperators and basically eradicating the family?
@@marbellaotaiza801 In the long term, Cats will be the biggest winners. 😉
@@JJ-wi2uw cats always win 😸
@@marbellaotaiza801 ....and indeed they will. Are you talking from experience?
The problem is normal well adjusted people don't rant on Tik Tok so they are invisible. Social media is a freak show
This is what I keep having to remind myself. Would be nice to encounter some of these normal people in the real world though.
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Exactly this. A lot of the reason why we think "where have the good men/ women gone??" Is because we disproportionately hear about the truly awful ones and that skews our perception
So true. I'm older and worked in public for over 30 years. I have seen vary few chick as bad as the ones I see in the videos. I feed sorry for them but we all know that bad behavior has consequences and we get to see it more every day.
I would not spend more than two minuets in a room with most of these wack jobs, perhaps we should give Sterling Cooper hazard pay?
True! It kills me to see men watching a few radical feminists on tik tok and then blowing that up to all women. Very very few women are radical feminists lol
Making everyone angry at everyone is a business 😂😢
That's called "war" and yes, it's a pretty big business...
@@marbellaotaiza801even politics and ruling do that a lot
@@DamianSzajnowski that's because war is the continuation of politics by other means.
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@@marbellaotaiza801 or politics is a tool for the continuation of war lol
We're not angry that some people act like trash, we're angry that our society enables it.
Underrated comment.
Yes, maybe its popular because it MAKES A LEGITIMATE POINT about the nature of our society and how it treats the average male vs. the average or BELOW average female
@@Purpose_Porpoise ur one of the problem
@@RKO1988 nah it just appeals to loser men who feel bad about themselves. society is as cruel and punishing to “below average” men and women alike. if women talking about feminism makes you mad that’s on you. you could choose to not care. people you consider annoying or degenerate online do not represent reality. you live in delusion if you think it does.
And since you are part of that "society", you wanna reflect just how much you might be angry at yourself. As a member of society, it is important to be aware of the extent to which we may inadvertently enable negative behaviors. At the 8:16 mark, he brings up a valid point, and I wholeheartedly agree with him. Nowadays, it appears increasingly challenging to avoid becoming part of the problem, while simultaneously easier to point fingers and criticize others for their actions. We find ourselves increasingly overwhelmed with the task of connecting the correct dots and acknowledging our individual accountability for the intricacies within the ecosystem we inhabit.
If there were no problems with divorce law, alimony, division of assets, legal fees, child custody, parental alienation, heated co-parenting, biased family court judges, etc these RP channels would go extinct. The reason these RP channels are doing so well is because millions of men are suffering and can relate to the content.
Disagree. It's at least 60% of men who have been hurt by women. Not saying RP is completely wrong, but most of the divorce narrative is cope. Many men watch this who don't even live in the US and face completely different laws and statistics...
Yeah, RP is a praxiology, a study of human behavior, for men who have been hurt and burned by women and their antisocial behavior. There's no legal recourse against women's crimes but they are free to unleash unlimited aggression toward men, destroying their lives. There's nothing you can do about it without you yourself going to jail. That's why men are walking away from this whorish insanity.
Exactly. Those are our and our friends real expiriences.
I *LIVED* through the most brutal and oppressive divorce in recorded history. I haven't seen my kids in 12 years. Women & modern f3min1sm are RUINING the world. It's so bad even Dave Chappelle had to get into the fight with some awesome jokes.
Exactly. He is ignoring the decades of unopposed male bashing that has been going on for decades, which has sparked much of the resentment toward women in some red pill videos. There are also legitimate men's issues as well, as you are saying. If he ever mentions that there is resentment against men as well, he may get a rude awakening of how taboo it is to address misandry.
I also had to quote Chris Rock: "Ain't no money in the cure. The money's in the medicine. That's how you get paid…. “
Basically getting scammed.
Good reminder, and a great quote.
Chris Rock also said only women and dogs are loved. Never men. So true
@@timgibney5590 …unconditionally. (in the quote. loved, but not unconditionally)
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The quicker you learn and accept human nature and male and female tendencies the less angry and more indifferent you become to it all.
Very true. I was angry about female nature at first, but once you accept it and don’t expect more from women than they are capable of you start to focus on yourself and the anger goes away. I was more angry about being lied to about women for the first 3 decades of life.
Goodness, I thought I was alone in this epiphany. I spent the first 30 years of my life figuring out relationships with women. I have learned more about them in these last 5 years than I ever did before. My father and grandfather tried talking to me about woman but it just didn't make sense. Once I realized it's their biology, their nature, and their preferences that made them who and what they are, I felt so much better. It's just how woman are and I'm OK with it. I know what I have to do now to better myself, be a more attractive male and actually value myself accordingly.
We have become so used to media that paints men in a bad light that we think nothing of it. Content exposing the toxic behavior we have as women is naturally provocative because it hasn't been mainstream or socially acceptable. That being said, there are content creators that take it to the extreme to purposely make it provocative and polarizing for more views. I believe men need to be educated on the tricks, manipulation, and emasculation they fall prey to from women, not to be angry at women, but to become wiser and stronger in their relationships with women. Nothing has been more transformational for me and my marriage than taking responsibility for my "dark side" as a woman and committing to change my behavior to bring out the goodness in me as a woman. As I changed and my husband became privy to my games, he began to stand up to me, which allowed me to develop respect, see him as a strong man, and continue to outgrow my bad behavior in our marriage. As a result, we have a loving, healthy marriage that continues to get even better as we both grow into the best version of ourselves.
You have a fortunate husband.
Why all the contrived drama and bad behavior directed towards the man in the first place? Why do women have to constantly "test" their men with their deliberate bad behavior. It's like women are not born with empathy or compassion but have to learn it, sometimes the hard way. Women can't love men like men can love women. I thought we were supposed to be positive, progressive, more evolved, genuine people in the 21st century. Evolutionary psychology dies hard I guess.
It has been said that finding a good woman, who will treat a man right and prioritize their relationship instead of treating the vows as mere words, and the man and the marriage as disposable, is like finding a needle in a needle stack.
It looks like your husband is a man who has found that special needle. Kudos to you, and sincere wishes for a long and happy life together.
Excellent. Shout out to Happy Wife! 👍💪
Marriage, sex and childbirth rates are at all time lows, women file 80% of divorces and chronic social isolation drives people insane. Traditional women benefit from feminist laws and don't lobby for change, making them defacto feminists, so we see through your mask.
I believe the over correction in equalizing women in society coupled with the last 20 years of masculinity being vilified in this country allows for this now perceived extreme nature of men telling their side. The societal disingenuousness of what man feels Vs what a woman feels is the problem.
I hear you but I know better than to be influenced by angry men. What gets me is listening to women of all ages, education and incomes speak with implicit or explicit disdain for men.
So you're influenced by angry women. Not saying they're not angry, but being influenced by angry people regardless of gender is the trap the good Doctor is referring to.
@@Fredjoe5 I think he's referring to the way this contempt has become culturally engrained, almost fashionable. It's not driven by anger or personal experiences.
The billion dollar business is men worshiping women, serving women, catering to women, and hating men. It is wild that once men just start to speak about the unbalance nature of the relationships it becomes we are hating and etc. This is crazy but to disrespect men, call all men cheaters, dogs, prevs, and the list goes on, that is completely fine
psyops
cultural marxism
Soon men will start marrying AI robots lmao
Oh shit, when put that way, 90% of consumer spending being done by women makes perfect sense from an economic and political standpoint.
As a dyed in the wool life long capitalist, I absolutely despise this.
There is no correcting this machine.
@@lax2121 AI will thankfully replace women first.😂 That’s why it will be banned.
Humanity will soon discover (again) why women were treated the way they were, througout centuries. It's a hard to swallow pill, but we are experiencing it first hand.
So true, we the viewers are the ones building our own prison by continuing to click negative content. Click positive and up lifting content and see difference it will make, not just in the algorithm but in your own life!
The sad fact is that 99 percent of women's dating profiles ruin it for the rest.
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Don't use dating apps. Don't use dating apps. Don't use dating apps. That's your problem right there. Just trying to help.
@@jaythenihilist4689 I’ve grown to realize it is way too easy for Women to attract men in real life… Just the mere fact of them using A dating app is A 🚩
@@jaythenihilist4689 I gave up on them years ago, but thanks.
@@jaythenihilist4689 what % of couples meet on dating apps?
In a world where a man can have his life destroyed because he looked in a woman's direction would it not be wiser to use an app for dating thus removing the chance of talking to a women who finds you unattractive in that moment and potentially ruining your life! Maybe keep your advice to yourself.
Valid points. Anger is big business in America these days. Look at our politics. Anger is $$$.
we waste our anger on internet instead of channeling productivity
It's business everywhere. Anger AT America is a big seller outside of the U.S. They're just as brainwashed as they think we are. Parochial prejudices monetized by "balanced" media. What a business model.
The RP is important despite the grifters. At no point in my life have I hated women. Having experienced some of the things the RP exposes, I'm more accepting of reality than anything.
I was thinking the same. Then I realized that the exceptions ("unicorns") are extremely rare and by and large what these channels are saying is overwhelmingly true.
It was extremely hard pill to swallow.
That women are people? And people are selfish? Same is menfolk also. Chad and Tyrone don't make the rest of look good. Same naivety of yourself is the same in the women.
Naivety = why would someone treat another person like that, I wouldn't....
@@williammentink that by and large women treat men in relationships as consumers treat service providers. They have no connection, no bond, no love, no attachment and very, very few common interests (because all their interests revolve around their looks).
While the dude usually TRULY AND GENUINELY loves, adores, helps, cherishes and encourages. And, of course, contributes financially.
@@alexeysamokhin9629 Yes, conditional loves hurts, because it doesn't feel genuine.
Well… my idea on unicorns (as a tale) is that there were actually 2 of them in Noah’s ark but these were male twins who decided that they neither wanted to separate nor else (like their maybe more aloof kin) and thus one mimicked the female, with Noah not getting it, of course. later on, there wasn’t procreation as species, of course, just lots of inter-species intercourse, with more or less success in offspring. Thus, expecting | looking for xx-unicorns to mate won’t get anyone very far, and disguise can be considered wired into their nature (of all with related ancestry) anyway.
@@alexeysamokhin9629very well said.
Unfortunately my lived experience with dating apps, narcissists, liars, disloyalty and borderlines over multiple interactions with women led me to these channels rather than the other way around.
personality disorders attract each other get tested
@@seabreeze4559 no they don't. But nice try. Cluster Bs prey on well adjusted people.
Find a bridge. Jump from it.
@@seabreeze4559 This is a prime example of basic bish psychology lmao
@@seabreeze4559 Sometimes personality disorders do attract each other. But you know who else tends to attract personality disorders? Codependent people. "Nice" people. The fact that a person is targeted by someone with a personality disorder doesn't mean that person themselves also has a personality disorder. I'd say that's a minority of all cases.
@@alwaysright3943real
In my personal experience, most women are pretty awful. But I have removed those videos from my life because they're manipulative, tribalistic and unhelpful. I'm not mad at women any more than I'm mad at a rusty nail I stepped on by mistake. I suffered from a very common disease: unrealistic expectations. I'm cured now.
Have you ever consider the posibility that the problem might be you?
Noone hates wmn, many people cannot discern between MGTOW and MRAs
MRAs capitlize on red pill rage and the rage baiting. These are male feminists.
MGTOW fights a broken system, we don't hate wmn nor do we even blame them.
There's a huge difference, one being MRAs are aligned to the broken system and outright advocates for men to hate and treat women like crap and never to fix yourself before persuing a healthy relationship.
MGTOW advocates for men to grow,fix your trauma and to guard your wallet. We never advocate for sex outside the confines of a marriage, not do we agree or accept hurting women.
Theres a huge difference and yet somehow MGTOW is labelled the extremists for advocating abstenance until healed and financialy stable
@@dificulttocure ahahha no
@@gerardo9052 Well, you're the only common thing among all your interactions with women, so...
@difficult Have YOU ever considered that so many people reporting the almost same observations might be because they *aren't* the problem?
You make an excellent point. I believe it is necessary for young men to take their career, investments and minimalist lifestyle to the max until about age 35. Then, if one can find a "reasonable" woman, and proper legal advice from a professional county prosecuting attorney, then one can proceed cautiously with involvement with a woman. If one wishes something like marriage, better to have a legally drawn up contract by both parties, then a "one-size-fits-all" marriage.
You need to add cohabitation not marriage. Never marry ever
You are dreaming! Good luck with your divorce.
Admittedly there’s a catharsis in watching these channels which are alluring.
It’s not beyond me that I’ve allowed clickbait thumnails, titles, and conversations to hijack the part of my brain that’s looking for validation from past experiences in which I was unfairly treated.
However, continuing to feed into that has developed a victimhood mindset that’s challenging to break. Because there is legitimate cause for concern and righteousness indignation.
It requires a balance in recognizing how things are without cultivating limiting beliefs or disempowering traits.
A part of me wants justice. A part of me wants revenge. A part of me wants the world to fix itself. But how likely are these things going to happen?
The best thing is equipping myself with this knowledge and making better choices going forward. Learning to let go, build my own life, and position myself with leverage to do what I want unhindered.
Word: The best thing is to equip and ready oneself for the future. It's not your fault, but it's your responsibility.
They do that all by themselves, Men are angry or done from their own personal experiences with them, nothing more or less.
Perhaps some younger guys who've never been in love or shared a home with a Woman are latching onto a movement or content, but anyone else has lived their experience and that's why they want no part anymore.
If younger men are doing as you say, then they are choosing to learn from the experiences of other men, rather than to blindly make the same mistakes. That is wisdom.
Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.
I once convinced FaceBook to stop showing me dating ads by clicking on a bunch of electronics ads. Guess these companies paid FB a bunch of money for a click even though I immediately closed their webpage. Perhaps we're the ones training the algorithm.
After I watched a few RUclipss exposing V-Shred as a scam company, I started clicking their ads to take money away from them every time.
@@ErikLiberty I was in sceptic/atheist communities on facebook and got ads for strange religious cult like pages, cause they put me in the category "interested in spiritual topics" I assume
I thumbs down all the English songs in Pandora and now I get my advertising in Spanish. Algorithm fail, lol. I have no idea what they’re selling me.
I don’t think it’s a matter of “making men mad at women”. I think we’ve gotten to the point that if men talk about how women claim they want a nice man who treats them well, yet they ignore those men and instead choose the bad boy who treats them like crap, that’s then interrupted as “hating women”.
Women are typically more than willing to trade off being treated like crap in order to secure the attention and/or provisioning of a man that they perceive as being of equal or (ideally) higher "value" than them. Often such men already have other women indicating their interest in him and making themselves available to him/being receptive to his attention and reciprocating that attention. What is "value" ... any combination of looks, charm, intelligence/humor, income/wealth, social status and "pre-selection" by other women.
The only way to trap a man is for him to be ignorant on how things work, that way he will take maximum risks and be used until he as nothing to offer anymore. 50 years of successful brainwashing was paying off, that is until men start posting videos on how to get unplugged.
You can see the rant that woman post every day, they just can not understand why men do not worship them anymore, do not wife them, do not spend $ on them . . . . this is the world that women created, men are just adapting to it very slow
The bad boy is not wanted because he treats them like crap. That's nice guy accusations. Bad boys just know how to trigger attraction, be direct, and lead the women sexually. Bad boys will try to sleep with a woman on the first date, nice guys will show up with a box of chocolate and flowers and hope to sleep with her on the 4th date. That doesn't make them 'nice', it makes them pussies.
@@max_rove So between the two she'd still rather be with the guy who treats her like crap but knows how to manipulate her into sleeping on the first date? That's the better choice? You say the bad boy isn't wanted but that's the one they always seem to pick.
@@BloodyHeck what do you mean by manipulate her into sleeping with him? I just don't understand why wanting to sleep with a woman quickly is manipulation. You don't think women enjoy sex? Do you think women always need a long courtship before they want to bang?
See that kind of thought process makes one a nice guy...
The problem with speaking factually about the negative behavior of women is that you can't say it anywhere without women going nuts or people blowing you off. You either get shamed or gaslighted. Both of these are amazingly frustrating when confronting the honest assessment on female behavior, and i think only amplifies an already angry person. There's plenty to be angry at, also plenty to be grateful for. No need to add to the misery
The red pill is a wake-up call for men, you must do your due diligence, women are not sugar and spice and everything nice, just as all men are not good relationship material. But many women don't take accountability for their actions, and that makes then extremely dangerous.
Women make it way too easy to hate them. However, a natural path of acquiring wisdom involves leaving the righteous anger behind. Indifference is the ultimate goal.
Red Pill Rage is real but only you are in control of where you go once you move on from it.
No, righteous anger has its place. It's just hurt anger that we need to transform into constructive actions. Women kill societies with their behavior and it has to stop.
My turning point was when after 20 years of full-time experience in IT in different countries, roles, jobs etc. I realized that I've never seen a woman working in IT who could be called "professional" even remotely. I asked my male friends in the same field and every single one of them confirmed similar experience.
It must be very sad to be "gender other than man" (don't want this comment to be deleted) - they fail at a workplace and as mothers.
@@edheldude Agreed.
To expand on my original comment, anger is a valid emotion. There is rationality behind righteous anger.
We can use this anger (or any other emotion) as a motivator for constructive behaviour. Instead of "leaving it behind" I should have said to not let it be your foundation. Don't let yourself be defined by it.
After going through the process of sorting out our emotions and thinking critically about the relationship issue, positive objective is to lead a life with inner peace regarding the decisions we make.
"The contrary of love isn't hate, it's indifference."
I'm 44 years old and I wish this content had existed when I was younger.
The amount of broken, divorced men in my age group is just sad to watch.
I started to consume red pill and pick up artist content after my divorce, used it in my dating life and it actually worked. Really opened my eyes to how women actually are.
Young men! Focus on yourself, the days of men working hard for their families are over. It still can work but you take a very high risk.
And by worked you mean you're just as lonely as ever? Cause I can only imagine the type of people who would fall for any of that crap unless their self esteem was already in the tanker
100%, correct. If this type of information was available 2030 years ago, my life would’ve been completely different. Better, more peaceful, more confident.
I was getting angry with women before the rise of those channels, they just helped me to understand why. More importantly though was that it was typical male vs female behaviors and how to navigate.
It's the other way around. The most tough minded men, with an above average IQ, got angry at individual women before these types of videos were a thing. Now these videos point men in the right direction and show the red flags of women and how they really think. It's more like: the customer was already ready and there, and they delivered what it wanted.
exactly. i was just thinking the same. My point(s) come from real life experience, not just because i watched some " women hater" videos, who actually describe what you already see outside in real life. Then of course these channels are made to capitalize on that (the guys explains it very well), but the core of the matter remains actually the same.
Truth in this for sure. The problem is that the Red Pill has picked up so much steam that there's definitely some people acting in bad faith and their takes are being spread and mixed in with some of the good advice. The whole "Red Pill Rage" element is very real but every man will move on from it. Where you move on from it is still pretty important though and you as an individual are the only one in control of that.
Learning what you can from the experience of others and adapting your own life with that knowledge is important, but you don't want to wallow in the misery of the shit situation we're in with the current dating market. Try to gravitate to things that make you happy instead of things that make you angry. It's hard to do, but it's the correct move.
"The most tough minded men, with an above average IQ, got angry at individual women before these types of videos were a thing." I love these vast generalisations. You'd almost think that if you're not angry at women, you're not tough minded or smart. O, and btw, I can bet that the more angry these "tough" guys are, the less success they have with women. (they're not that tough or intelligent after all?)
So, yeah, it's quite obviously big business to make men angry at women and to keep them that way. And yes, a lot of the customers joined the train because they already were angry. There wouldn't be a business if that wasn't the case. Just like it was being argued in this video.
@@Shifft-This The negative effects are the results of mainstreaming the red pill concepts when every average person has access to these concepts.
@@Luykx Toughminded and smart men are one of the most likely candidates to notice female nature on their own. Less tough minded men tend to be more idealistic and buy into society's bs. While less intelligent men are less likely to notice the patterns.
Oh, yes. I noticed the same thing a few months ago, which is why I unsubscribed from several of these RP channels.I understand their message, and there is truth in what they say, but they deliver it in the most toxic and triggering way.
But, at the end of the day, the dynamic is simple: they want to get your attention, keep you hooked up on their content, and then earn money from ad revenue. Not to mention their BS courses and private consultations that they advertise. I always say that RP should be a stage in every man's life because it teaches you a lot about female nature and how disposable we are as men in the eyes of a society that appears to be designed to f*ck us up in every way if we let our guard down.
Given what we know about how the system works, it's understandable that most men are now refusing to play or navigate the game in a different way. My final point is to approach their content in an educational manner, learn about it, and move on. Stay away from the toxic content. Most of these "Dating Gurus," "Self Improvement Guys," and "PUAS" are a mental mess, with unresolved life issues and even actual hatred or low self-esteem. Most of them should go to therapy instead of preaching about self-improvement and other nonsense.
A man is only loved on the condition that he provides something. Women only date up (hypergamy) . They don't build with you. So why should I let one enjoy the benefits of my hard work? What's she bringing to the table ?
Oh, you are polarized by the angry making videos. Be less polarizing. Stick with the women. Give away your wealth for free to women! :))
@@adriantomole1019??
You know how many men I've seen dump their women for hotter girls once they make it?
@@carlospita6442 He's obviously being sarcastic.
@@carlospita6442 Yeah, I'm sarcastic. ;)
"Now, I'm probably not going to make the channel exclusively about women because I would find that boring." Savage...lol😂
How many times have you met a woman who said something really, really funny? Or really insightful? Or made you see life in a different light?
...Me neither....
Think wider and you double your market!
Actually women made me angry without any educational, or false educational content...
Already playing victim huh
@@jobunny919 He described his experience and you showed him no compassion.
@@jobunny919 Well one time a woman accused me with raping her, wich was totally false. As a young man I was shocked, and didn't understand... Yes I was actually a victim, and when you are young, you don't know yourselves, you don't know woman is NOT man, you get the victim state EZ... You know... For long time I didn't understand forxample, why a lady beg for relationship, more than sex, so when I gave her more emotions, and I said okay to the relationship, she left me literally next day, and cheated on me... I don't feel like I play anything. As a young man I was shocked about womans real nature, because it looked different in the movies...
@@borgy7085 That's freaking horrible! She should be in jail.
@@adriantomole1019 You're right. I reacted because I am tired of the daily beat down by m3n on the internet. I don't know his story and I was defensive.
Men are already mad at women for gaming dating and marriage. Most women go after the top 1% of men based on wealth and looks. Everybody else gets crumbs. So naturally men are going to click on men's channels in order to learn more. However, those channels do get repetitive.
sexual selection read darwin
@@seabreeze4559
Marriage, sex and childbirth rates are at all time lows and I'm well known for saying no to all women, like many other men I'm not stupid.
@@forgottenfuryan it's fine if people are single.
@@seabreeze4559
Only white men as a group pay net taxes so browning is collapse, thus without white children we'll collapse financially, which us already happening. Women live life on easy mode until they're childless and alone. Fortunately, chronic social isolation drives people insane.
🤔 Ten or 12 years ago I realized something was amiss in my marriage and set about correcting it. It has been an arduous task. What I’ve learned is that I am primarily responsible for the issues in my marriage because of the Crouching Tiger analogy earlier this week. Ironically the person who opened my eyes to the reality that there was indeed something horribly wrong was the comedian Bill Burr! I found myself in an endless loop (Emerson Eggrich refers to it as the crazy cycle) with my beloved when conflict arose and we would be bouncing off a bunch of non-critical path issues. Burr taught me that women can branch endlessly as a way of avoiding responsibility. They’ll go “12 deep” in an argument and guys gave up trying to track them all after 3. This required a new approach on my part so rather than addressing all of her concerns believing falsely she would address mine I thwarted her first maneuver by simply saying “we can talk about that if you want but it has nothing to do with the issue we’re discussing.” if she tried to branch 12 times I’d say the same thing 12 times. I encouraged her to get out a notepad and write down her concerns and we would come back to them after we addressed the one that I brought up to begin with. Her concerns with me were not an explanation or a justification for her behavior. It was a diversion. I’ll take ownership of my actions if you’ll take ownership of yours. It took a long long time for this to begin to come around. She was incensed that I quit playing the game. I don’t think she actually knew that I quit playing the game. She just knew that she wasn’t getting the same result as she had for the previous couple of decades. 😂 I think content creators are jumping on topics that they know resonate and it just so happens that the topics contain a lot of truth! Feminism has run roughshod over men for 60 years and we’ve allowed it to happen but now we’re mad as hell and will not take it anymore! 😠 Bring on the content. We need a constant reminder to hunker down and stay the course.
Brilliantly done. My question is this..... how is a man meant to respect anyone (let alone his wife) that consistently engages in such behavior and with such an attitude?
@@JJ-wi2uw He is not to respect them. He is to assume his authority as a man, not to oppress them but keep making them see their stupid ways. Maybe by the time you make he see how illogical her ways are over and over she'll either resent you and quit or come to her senses and accept your authority. Either outcome is good for you.
@@JJ-wi2uw it’s a matter of,as it was put to me, teaching someone the way they should behave with you and around you. I drew a line in the sand and stood firm and fought the battles focused on that line in the sand rather than everything else they tried to make it. If someone has a good heart, and good intentions, you’ll be able to tell and it’s worth staying the course with them to give them time to correct behaviors that you allowed to happen. That was the toughest pill for me to swallow that it was really my fault. I let it continue on for too long before I figured out what was happening. And the real issue I think is respecting yourself rather than worrying about whether you respect them.
I am so grateful that I encountered this video of yours - I consumed so much of these contents and as you said they're pretty much all the same. They make me so angry at women - and I am a woman myself. Dating might be hard, for men or women, but there are good men and women out there, if you work on yourself and you know where to look. These contents blow things out of proportion as they only focus on bad women. It's a good business, but if the consumer fully buys into it, believing there are no good women out there, and they're victims of this terrible world, that's not good. Keep your cool man.
And... making women angry at men is a religion...
Government policy, educational orthodoxy
AMEN.
I’ve been married for the past 9 years. I listen to some stuff online for entertainment purposes only. I take everything I hear with a grain of salt 🧂.
Some content, such as hard data and statistics, can be useful in getting a bearing on where you are headed in life. Divorce rate is 90% for women with 6+ bodycount, 6% for virgin at marriage. Which one is your wife? Plan accordingly for what's likely to come.
@@georgedang449 😒 my wife has only been with me. I had a strict vetting process. I know most of the data you’re talking about.
You and your wife are in control of your marriage. Fuck the world. Fuck the statistics. If you've made it 9 years you're already well beyond the length of most marriages that end in divorce. As long as you two are in it together and trust each other (and don't let outsiders fuck up what you two have control over) you'll be fine. My grandparents were married for 67 years (grandma recently died) and were married at 15. If I listened to everything I heard on the internet they'd have me not believing my own eyes and would tell me that's impossible.
I'm fascinated by this stuff, as a subject that will never hit close to home for me - I'm an old homo. I think if I were a young straight guy who'd never been successful with women, I'd find it too painful.
@@etuitivemillionaire Congrats, and well done. Keep it real.
Red pill rage is legit and definitely can turn toxic. I had to stop watching certain creators so I could get past it and accept things as they are. I try to unplug every once in a while to go somewhere I enjoy to recharge. As with any business the man o swamp has its grifters. You encourage us to use logic and to think so we make better decisions to improve our lives. So I appreciate your objective view on many topics.
The Red Pill taught me a lot. But I take Bruce Lee’s philosophy towards it:
“Absorb what is useful, discard what is not. Add what is uniquely your own.”
Making men angry in politics is big business too. I removed myself from the dating market decades ago after years of frustrations and failed attempts. Recently I stumbled onto these channels and find solace and comraderie in men who have had the same experience. They strip away the candy coating and expose the true nature of women. Still, their is a risk of becoming jaded toward all women, and this is unhealthy and unfair.
It's been a LONG time since I've hit the like button that hard. This video was incredibly refreshing to watch. Thank you.
Men are not angry at women from these content creators. Men are angry at women because of their outrageous behavior in their personal lives. Men are astounded at how society is supporting the outrageous behavior of women in their personal lives. For example try talking to your wife into anything that she is completely opposed to ... ANYTHING ... and you will find out why men are angry at women.
Also, females live life in easy mode. They’re born with value. Everything is given to them and simps will always be there to give them attention and resources
This is a really good point. If there were no problems with divorce law, alimony, division of assets, legal fees, child custody, child support, child support modifications, parental alienation, heated co-parenting, these RP manosphere channels would die. The reason these RP manosphere channels are doing well is because millions of men are suffering and can relate to the content.
@marriage causes divorce Spot on! 💯
@@carlospita6442 only a few, if you ever leave your house you will find out that they are also regular people
@@marriagecausesdivorce7540 Exactly. The knowledge side of TRP is still important, I think what this video was about was just spreading the awareness that you also don't want to just be used as a consumer to support elevating bad takes, because as he stated sensational headlines is a business. But as you stated, this stuff wouldn't be so successful if we didn't have so many men that can easily empathize with these situations that are being reported in these videos and stories.
They are not MAKING men angry. Men are ALREADY ANGRY and rightly so.
Amazing video. I watch sensationalized videos from time to time, but keep in mind the context that the main goal the creators have is to grow and maintain an audience to make money. Not enough people look at polarizing videos through that lens and become zombified, parroting the sensationalized message. I wish we lived in a world where people thought more. Channels like this will help us get there.
Thanks for what you do. :)
This is the video I've been waiting for.. in general, not specifically from you.
I appreciate your knowledge, factuality and neutrality; and your desire to share. Great stuff, Orion! 👍
And doing what you do is also a business (but that is OK). Everything around here is a business, or at least advertising (which has essentially the same aim). 😄
The point is that he has credentials and can make social psychology comments as an scientist and clinical psychologist. Th red pill man most of them cannot.
I have a few friends totally wrapped up in this type of content. They deeply believe it applies to all women. I see the same beliefs on the internet. But since I became much more social I've seen the truth, the junk they circle jerk about apples to a tiny minority of women, like 1/100 or less. Women just aren't like that. The belief can't survive contact with enough real people.
I have listened to redpill & MGTOW content for years. The information, experiences and advice have been priceless. There have been good content creators and bad ones also. Overall, my experience is I am not angry with women (in general). Rather, I understand (most) womens' general female nature better. That makes me more cautious with women (in general). You did not mention most women end their marriages years after they made their contract committment to marriage. We have learned marriage means ego trips and future earnings for most women. Men lose their wives, children, house, reputation, assets, IRAs and more during divorce. I know this is true. It happened to me, too. Subtract more loss with 20+ years of child support. MARRIAGE SUCKS. Women have become undatable.
Women absolutely HAVE become undatable and marriage is a terrible deal for the vast majority of men; unless you have a rock-solid prenuptial agreement to act as a strong deterrent.
UnLovable.
Here's my problem with this argument, most of the things manosphere accounts post content from is coming directly from women themselves. Oftentimes, the clips aren't even taken out of context, and women aren't reading off a script - they're voluntarily deciding to say what they say. Much of the content is taken straight off women's social media pages too in case people want to argue they were 'pressured' into responding a certain way.
If we're being honest, the real 'issue' is the complete lack of accountability for women.
I've been saying this a lot lately. I've been trying to be less of a consumer. There's this part of me that wants to eventually become a creator (once I financially won't need it) to tell people to "get the f**k off social media," where my goal will be to grow my audience with the hope that it'll die or slowly grow soon after. I can't be the only one that's noticed its negative impact. Like you say, perverse incentives on all fronts.
I love your videos thank you for not feeding my biases and instead make me aware of them.
I completely agree that there are many who have made men angry at women as a way to gain views on RUclips, but this does not mean that the situation is not bad and that most women are now unfit for serious relationships , The mere fact that this type of content gets many followers from men is evidence that many men are fed up with modern women
If we lived in a society where the worst of men were allowed to run rough over women with no repercussions, I wouldn't blame women at all for hating men. The world we live in at the moment is just the opposite. Your last video about Crouching Tiger was however, spot on. The reason we are in this sad state is because men willingly gave up the sword.
In time, young men and boys will be looking to societies where women are kept in check, wondering if such places might actually be onto something. Already today, our suffering breeds antipathy. It's funny how SJWs never see that the more they keep pushing, the more they amplify a black fire. The more time that keep passing, the more we will regard our feministic predecessors as absolute fools. "We gave them so much, yet they kept asking for more" will become the new narrative (as it already is gradually). Personally, I would not mind if the women were to lose anything and everything. I just hope the potential collective quest for vengeance does not go as far as child sexual abuse and genital mutilation. If anything, the children should be protected from brainwashed adults. But as for corrupted women, be my guest. They need more than just a reality check.
You do have a point but it is women themselves that give these men a whole factory of reasons for the content they relay. I must say I have learnt a great deal about female nature from many in the Red Pill community, much of it is absolutely spot on. It has made me value myself infinitely more, and know that the boundaries I set are directly related to my worth as a man and done very much for my peace of mind.
How can I learn? I am a 22M.
I think PsychHacks is correct. Seeing the extremes of female behavior makes it easier to see and to understand the more minute behaviors, but it is also true that most women are not doing the kinds of extreme things that we hear about so frequently in the manosphere.
Yesterday's vvomen? No.
Today's vvomen? Yes, most of them (almost all of them) actually are.
@@alexp7274 I don’t know. I know a lot of women, ages 30 on up. The extreme stories I read are about women divorce-r**ing men, or going to clubs every weekend and cheating on their husbands, and so on and so forth.
When I look at the 30-somethings and 40-somethings today, I do see some of that, but I also see loyal wives out there. So I don’t think every woman is divorce-r**ing and such. The figures we have are that 50% of marriages end in divorce, which means half of the time that that is NOT happening. That’s a substantial percentage.
@@LionKimbro the important question to ask is: are the 50% that are not divorced actually happy? Women initiate 80% of divorces. The cold fact is that a lot of men do not seek divorce because they know that they'll end up far worse financially and with their children, so they suck it up. I saw a study not too long ago that said only 2% of marriages are happy in the West. 2% of 50% is 1%. Which means that 99% of marriages either end up in divorce or are unhappy. Those are the real statistics for you.
@@alexp7274 Do you have a reference for that? I'm curious.
@@alexp7274 well wait- the 2% wouldn’t be the unhappy ones. So it would be 4% of the non-divorced. Still grim figures, but I point it out because it’s important to remember to be cautious with statistics.
As it is, I think that marriage as an institution is doomed. I have to remember that my friends are not necessarily representative of the entire country. For example, the Amish are the fastest growing us population of the United States, for a long time. Even though I never see them. The Mormons are quite solid about family as well. So, hard to say. Have to remember that when we are talking about populations, we are looking at the world from within our own sub population.
But as far as the population of men that I know- I’m white, middle class, liberal- and I can see the writing on the walls: Marriage is humiliating, antagonistic to men, “word has gotten out,” and the institution is as dead as a door nail, and I can’t imagine what would bring it back.
I’m seeing lots of women choosing to be single mothers, raising children with other women!, I know of one young mother who found a man to raise a child with and was quite explicit about the terms of their raising the child together- I think we are going to see institutionalized single motherhood by choice, and more pressure for state support of child rearing, and increased pushback by men. Long term: Japanese-created biosacks so that men can reproduce entirely on their own. Is it out of the question? I do not think so…. But it seems more likely to me than marriage coming back.
David's Bridal goes bankrupt after 75 years. That's a *WIN* for men everywhere.
I'm sooo happy
It speaks VOLUMES. (We're winning.)
Yes. It is a business. And trying to stop men from getting (justifiably or unjustifiably) angry is also a business. Everything is business in this capitalistic world.
The question that needs to be asked is not if it is a business. The question should be: "Are the facts and concepts that I see useful or not?"
I think there’s a period of realization and anger a lot of dudes get to, especially after being screwed over, learning everything they knew was a lie. You can’t stay in that rage forever. Some do though. Some aspects of it that I applied personally have wrecked some otherwise pretty good future prospects. Not wrong, but not exactly right. Other aspects like self improvement though are incredible what they can do for a man on his mission understanding he has to put in the work. Great channel Doc, always tune in 👍
You can love women or you can understand women. It's very difficult to do both.
That is only because you are gay..
Which does God do?
I think the reason these content creators even exist in the first place is because there is demand. Why is there demand? Because feminism and modern media has vilified men and lawmakers with the biased court system, the dismissal of men's and boys' problems in the workplace, school have indeed angered men to a point that a lot of people have noticed that there is a possibility of monetization of this anger.
I applaud your transparency. You are on the road to becoming a GOAT of modern psychology
Thank you for finally addressing this!!!
It has been surprisingly easy to spot this trend, specially on ytube. Now I cant see new content about (f.e vaxxx8nes) without getting 10 videos about women this women that, men this men that.
Doc, thank you for not limiting the content only to women and for the work you are doing on this channel. All you said is plain truth. And thanks for pointing out the fact about RUclips (besides others), I admit it's quite hard to limit time spent watching videos on various subjects, some do have some educational value, but it takes more time to learn something new as the information is somehow recycled.
Very insightful as usual but tbh a lot of men were already angry at women. This is just giving men a voice we haven’t really had.
There is an avalanche of "hand-picked" examples of bad female behavior. Examples of bad female behavior are so common and easy to find that it's safe to assume that women really ARE that bad.
Most women in my life are biased against men when you see how they treat men who aren't their brother/ father or bf.
As a fan of learning & reality, I'm so glad you made this video, it has directly allayed some of my fears for your channel which is currently providing SOLID information congruent with my own personal experiences both pleasant & unplesant. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, may the status and financial incentive never tempt you into joining the hellscape.
I would love to see a video on some aspects of cherry picking and overhype that red pill channels engage in. I understand that the information is hyped but it’s hard to understand what is true about most woman in society when your experiences also align with the red pill content.
This is my precise concern. I want men to be successful in their relationships of choice. I want men to be justifiably optimistic. I want them to be aware of potential pitfalls, but still hopeful for their futures.
This is true. Luckily for me it didn't take long to navigate Red Pill content. At first it was definitely an emotional rollercoaster. But when I looked at myself and understood we're all a product of the world we live in. By understanding this its really just as simple as being what I need to be for the outcomes i want, and only give to those that're deserving of what i offer. Which frankly is not many. Social media has deluded so many people that it's really difficult to develop mature healthy relationships. Though i can't be mad at that, rather understand it and more forward.
Dr. Taraban, your analysis of youtubers reminds me of the position of film director in the movie industry. In the early years of cinema, directors were men of age, with experience in fields outside of entertainment and they took that knowledge with them into their process of making movies. If movies did not work out for them, they could go back to another career or profession, no harm, no foul, typically. Today, most filmmakers are young, lack experience and know they want to work in the movie biz, come what may, which makes them very pliable by those in charge. I very much prefer a RUclips channel such as yours where it is obvious you are not chasing the clicks and you only explore topics that would engage you first, then your audience. We are engaged because we can tell you're fascinated by the research and reaching conclusions. Working on things that bore us simply because of money makes us slaves. Network was a great film. What are your thoughts on Marshall McLuhan and Neil Postman? I really liked your analysis on market forces leading the masses. More of this would be really interesting. Thanks again, doctor.
Or the women are making men angry at woman. The redplill content just verifies what we experienced dating as a man lol. Not all are bad but my God, so much immaturity, vanity, and hanging out at the finish line and not caring about men seems the vast majority. It is never what is best about us. That what we have to do to earn her attention which I find disgusting. Some unicorns do exist but they are with their husbands unfortunately.
Probably the sharpes 'infleuncer ' video I've seen! Orion you truely bring some of the most sensible and valuable content on these topics out there!
It's not cherry picked. All women are like this. Pro women content just grooms men into being simps.
it absolutely is cherry picked, and aimed at exactly people like you. Then they make money from your anger cause they portray a few women as something, and you believe its every single one, no matter what culture or country. Women are half of the world population, they are not a monolith.
@@SPACEDOUT19 Are you going to deny hypergamy also? So many different around the world can't be wrong about women
@@SPACEDOUT19 I've been around for some time and have seen some things... yes, statistically "not all women are"... but overwhelmingly they're not that different and more or less their behavior is described by the manosphere channels. No, it's not related to country or times, it was always like that, but the society was keeping the truth from men (because women were always present and prevented the truth from being spread). The truth is that women can experience a true love only towards criminals, thugs etc.
@@alexeysamokhin9629 Do women experience true love toward dark triad men, or is it codependency?
@@WildMidwest1 yes, women are experiencing true, real love only toward dark triad men, preferrably with criminal history. They absolutely adore them.
But they gaslight us, because it’s disgusting to tell the truth.
I have to say, as a fellow therapist in the field im usually pretty disappointed by the lack of intellect displayed, but my hat is off to you on how well you articulate and dissect these issues. Kudos to you sir.
Usually, what happens is that a man is burned first and then they look into it. This starts the content bubble.
As a husband and a father of three daughters, I wouldn't say that I am angry at women. I see what you are saying about grifting off the clickbait and algorithms, but the world has always been full of temptations. In the earliest days of the USA, the media was full of lies and slander, and the politicians played a lot of dirty games. Sound familiar? "Snake Oil" sales became a meme well over a century ago. Even so, modern feminism is full of plenty to criticize. From participation trophies to corrupted compassion in a hundred forms, toxic femininity has done a LOT of damage to society and standards of civility. "Feelings Uber Alles" is the word of the day, at the expense of logic, reason, fairness, principle, and you name it. It's more toxic than cobra venom.
People are drawn to messages that they identity with and that resonate with personal experiences or desires. Hence the popularity of prosperity preachers, get rich quick scams, and of course RP content. The first two for desires, the last from experience. RP customer's are seeking empathy, understanding and self control again and the creators albeit temporarily are providing that service.
The doc with a measured, balanced and thoughtful insight.
When you have certain types of experiences with the opposite sex and you have no idea what's going on you're left to work it out yourself or talk to trusted people. Then the internet comes along and all of a sudden it all makes sense. Somebody's making bank off of this information?! Say it ain't so....
RP info prevents male self deletion.
I consider myself red pilled when it comes to women. When you become red pilled you go through an anger phase when you realize that things don’t work the way you’ve been told and there are a lot of content creators profiting from that. You have to accept women for what they are and move on.
Avoid watching videos of bona fide gold diggers or tatted up single moms behaving badly and focus on yourself instead. At the same time ignore the true nature of the current social order and women’s biological imperatives at your own peril.
Much needed clarity on this topic. Unfortunately not everyone has the clarity of thought to recognize their role in creating the problems they claim to oppose (bad gender relationship dynamics) and if they do not everyone has the moral fortitude to take responsibility and change their tune.
TBH Women seem to be doing an excellent job all on their own. Just saying.
Thank you for covering this topic. Everybody seems to just let this slide under the radar.
You´re not wrong, but same is true about making women angry at men and that "business" has started much earlier. Both genders are pitched against each other by the media for decades and unfortunately the most extreme opinions are often the ones who gain most traction.
I agree with this message. There's a lot of negative talk about women on the internet, but my experience in real life tells me they're mostly not that bad. They're generally not as interested in me as I would like them to be, but that's hardly a moral failing.
i have noticed myself that over the past year these channels are focusing more on showing examples of videos from tik tock and the likes of the crazy types whereas in the past channels would talk about the relationship psychology and red flags regarding XX...i suppose it gets more viewers and thus more money
Thank you for this video. Finally a well stated observation about how these channels operate. 👍
Lots of truth in this video. I don't agree with all of your takes, but yea men need to remember that at some point some of the manosphere stuff just becomes an echo chamber and needs to be tapered a bit. There's a reason why "going your own way" requires you to typically step away from worrying about all this shit to begin with.
Either way, as someone who spent most of my college time in Psyc courses, your takes are usually a welcome change of pace. Would love to see you sit down with Chris Williamson so he can pick your brain about the current state of things.
Let's acknowledge that feminism and modern women are what gave rise to red pill content creators. Consequences and repercussions.
Just say that you and all the other Red Pillers are mad that the tables turned on them. Just say you're pissed women are taking back some power in society.
Taking back power? Sweetheart, you wouldn't have any power if it wasn't for men giving it to you. Your name is accurate because you really are silly. lol@@sillyNstressed
My main issue with the "your own way" creators for example is that the entire point of that philosophy is doing your own thing yet 95% of videos they make is about raging at a specific article or something. Yeah marriage is a raw deal and whatever but what they "should" be talking about is how to live independent happy and secure lives and they are just sparking outrage.
This is true, but most people that aren't just grifters are trying to spread awareness of WHY they had to go their own way to begin with. It's still an important message to put out there considering that 100% of main stream media informs men that they are stupid and they need to find a woman to chain themselves to but they deliver a very different message to women. This hypocrisy is exactly what "your own way" creators tend to point out. Just try to find a commercial that has a man and a woman in it that doesn't play off how stupid the man is. It's pretty hard to do.
The idea is to help _other Men_ to freedom - not just escape a trap yourself!
I had no idea that the court system was _so_ biased against Men until I was alerted by knowlegeable Men.
Not exactly. BetterBachelor has bought a piece of land on the cheap and moved cross country. He is showing and talking about how he is building his house and getting to know his neighbours while cutting down on his screen time and how when the house is built how he will spend more time with manly friends hunting and riding his motorcycle while also start growing more food for himself. Leading by example.
I read that book, four arguments for the elimination of television! Fantastic book! Definitely helped me with raising my daughters!
Thanks for the content. I appreciate nuanced positions. There is however an emerging vilification of men and masculinity (see apa division wrt to this) in society that is resulting in deaths of despair, falling behind in schools, and legal/family issues (especially in divorce) for men and boys. The many who are falling behind are understandably seeking out community in these often overstated RP channels.
Thank you for your content and honest and lucid critique of a situation where you, yourself, are a participant.
Great commentary.
These things existed way before modern social media. One of the first to really delve into this world was Neil Strauss who revealed this sub-culture in his book _The Game._ The are many branches and they all prey on insecure men who are mostly looking for a meaningful relationship, tho most of the marketing is on how to get laid. For that reason alone it puts a lot of women off. They scoff at it and call it cheating, while merrily putting on their makeup themselves. With that said, a lot of the advice given on these sites is objectively bad and misleading, even though it's given with the best of intentions. Here's the best advice you'll ever get: If you're not willing to go out and learn, then you will never get anywhere. Even doing things wrong is better than not doing them at all. So, same exact advice as for hitting the gym. Just do it. 99% of the challenge of this problem is simply to meet up and do the work. From there on, you _will_ improve, almost no matter what you try. Both in the gym, and in love. Wish you the best! Skål!
Kudos for mentioning Jerry Mander's "Four Arguments . . ." I read it decades ago and it changed my life.
I’m not angry, just disappointed