Corning has been working on bendable glass for some 20 years, they're finally on to something,, Flippin cable is gd amazing, real shame about the expense though
Fun fact, everytime you had a corner in an optical cable, it slows down the speed of the signal. 50 meters of straight line is faster than 50 meters of "rolled" optical cable (because the light has to bounce on the walls of the core of the cable. It never moves in a perfect straight line inside the cable. (I learnt this in ground military equipment maintenance classes).
This looped fiber optic mechanism is used at stock exchange IEX to induce a 350ms latency intentionally: hackaday.com/2019/02/26/putting-the-brakes-on-high-frequency-trading-with-physics/
Technically, this does increase the path length of the light, but at the literal speed of light there will be no difference in a way that matters here. The only true importance in rolls of fibre is ensuring not to exceed the minimum bend radius (and ensuring the light remains inside the medium).
Wow man... If I had seen that black cable earlier... I would have totally figured out that it is Optical Thunderbolt 3 Cable by Corning. Thanks for not spoiling it until it was ready for release...
@@alfiegordon9013 Mainly a JUST IN CASE. You simply don't wanna take the risk of pissing off a huge company with and NDA, but also the Corning rightly wants to take all precautions to safeguard millions in R&D. Also, had they not blurred, people might have inferred the length of the cable and put 2 and 2 together.
yeah, a real demo would be a small dock on a table with 3 monitors, mouse, keyboard, headset and everything else. And the computer standing in another room with just this cable to the dock
@@Langben121 That's literally what he's already been doing at home (just with a single monitor) for years (since late 2015/early 2016) with Thunderbolt 2. And like he mentioned in this video, they have a whole five part series showing off that setup. This is just a better cable with the newer standard.
Jesus, I've spent hours dealing with broken fiber cable. Linus torturing that cable was basically mocking the days of my life I've lost over the years.
480USD for a 50m fibre-optics thunderbolt cable? I was actually expecting it to be somewhere like 800 to 1000. If you consider the market for a cable like that, it's not even THAT crazy. It's the 5m that's 360USD that is pretty expensive.
We ended up having to add some disk trays to one of our arrays cross-row due to poor planning, so the vendor kindly sold us two 10m 12Gb/s SAS optical cables for $15,000 USD. Sub $500 USD for a 50m optical Thundebolt cable sounds pretty sweet.
@@az2e686 I honestly didn't know polymer fiber cables were a thing. Turns out, their range, bandwidth and speeds are limited but they are mechanically more flexible and you can actually repair them! Thanks for the input!
I work at Corning and do fiber development, so it's super cool to see what our products are able to do at the consumer level, even if it is such a niche market. Thank you for reviewing this stuff Linus!
As an engineer who works with fiber, I can only shake my head at the design. The cable should be cheap and it should plug into a discrete module like a SFP or similar.
@@Shadowmaster625 You can already see that they had trouble conforming to the Thunderbolt standard - integrating the whole system of transceivers and fibers is pretty much the only way to guarantee compliance.
@@Shadowmaster625 Well, remember how big of a flop fiber-based audio was? If it's thunderbolt, it needs a TON of individual connections for signaling. This definitely increases the cost compared to a single fiber.
Looking at how it's constructed and what it has in it, it's not just another cable. It's actually insane they managed to fit 2 electrical-optical convertors inside those small connectors.
I actually had to look away when the knots got too much… I’m hella impressed! Something like this would be an incredible option as a recording studio owner too / being able to keep the PC out of the main room and isolate the noise and heat etc. stellar!
Not to mention, power supply and ground loop isolation. My first foray into optical tech was Toslink to stop a ground issue that plagued my digital coax connection.
At $400-ish USD, this thing isn't budget-friendly by any means, but it is an engineering marvel. The fact that Corning has managed to pack all that signal processing and conversion into something that just looks like a normal USB-C cable is pretty damn impressive, if you ask me.
It is not that light is not fast enough. The reason is that the medium (in this case glass) is to much of a resistance to photonic transmission after 50m for the specs of the cable!
@@Alexei_Drekker Keep in mind, the speed quoted as "The speed of light" is actually the speed of light in a vacuum. Fun fact: Cherenkov radiation (That blue glow you see around underwater nuclear reactors) is caused by particle radiation from the reactor moving faster than the speed of light in water.
Well, it is, just not when it's constantly being absorbed and retransmitted through solid matter so much. Shoot that light through a vacuum tube and you can add a smidgeon under another 25 metres to that maximum range. Although vacuum on Earth isn't quite as practical a medium as glass fibres.
This was literally EXACTLY what I was looking for. I wanted to see if an optical thunderbolt 3 cable could handle a heavy use case of monitors and peripherals so I could have my computer in another room to reduce heat. As I was watching the video I was thinking "I'd feel a lot more confident if he showed off an external GPU running on it" since I know just how short of a connection those require. Then boom, he shows exactly what I wanted to see. Thank you Linus! You made my decision very easy. An external GPU is probably the most intensive thing thunderbolt 3 could do, showing that off basically gives a big check mark to any other stress test I could think of. This might be the most influential video I've seen because with this one video showing the durability, bandwidth, and latency of the cable, I'm ready to drop the 400 bucks on one. Corning should use this video on their website because no text or reviews I could read would ever do justice even close to this video.
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The "As an engineer" is always cringy to see. Especially to those who are actually ones. But this really goes to anyone who says "As an *insert profession here*" Especially when you say that and not state what field you are in...
@@1kuhny You're right, I work at the R&D department af a company that designes ANPR cameras. It's always a hard decision to select the interfacing between a camera and a processing unit. This solution is very compact and not sensitive for EMC. That's why I love it
Can we just appreciate how large LMG has grown? The fact that he went from a house to now a large enough space that he can walk the cable all the way out is inspiring.
Also of note is he still owns that house. I recall him mentioning it on a WAN show. Thats called being good a business. Instead of spending the money on a flashy car. They purchased the other units. Instead of getting a Robot dog, they upstarted Floatplane. Floatplane and the Forum is outright about not being under the thumb of 1 corporation (aka RUclips).
I cringed just as bad and I dropped out of highschool. I'm not sure how being an engineer has anything to do with knowing that a glass fiber in a cable is delicate. Or did _you_ need to go to college to figure that out? Or more likely, are you just another real life example of the meme that engineers need to tell the whole world that theyre an engineer? Or even more likely, both?
@@elijahmitchell-hopmeier182 That doesn't even make sense... My post had zero neck beard vibes. If you want to try again with something that makes sense, I can wait.
@@herranton had you stayed in high school you might have learned that fiber optic cables are not only made of glass but also plastic and glass/plastic composite. maybe i dropped out of a better school system than you
@@hunterbear2421 most of them aer just reused. They have a pretty large archive of stuff and they breakdown and rebuild things constantly. I wouldn't be surprised if they literally have like 2 3090s tops. They've mentioned in past videos how they couldn't use a certain component cause it was in another build. You can also tell how over time they keep reusing the same hardware (like RAM sticks or graphics cards) and then when a new one comes out they keep reusing that for months.
I love it when Corning makes something in another seemingly industry they just show up and go "you know that cable you've been using? we made it out of glass and it's better now"
Corning has always been on the forefront of glass innovation. Aside from inventing fiber-optic cables, they have worked on projects ranging from glass in spaceships, to flat-screen LCDs as early as the 80s.
So this weekend I bought cables to put my PC in another room because I was inspired by your video from a year ago. And now when it is almost completely installed I see this video. Brilliant timing sir. :)
In regards to what was said at 12:22. Light traveling in fiberoptics can in fact be affected by magnetic interference. I work in Fiber optic telecommunications , and while its very rare to occur, it takes something like a lightning strike on OPGW cable for it to matter. in telco its called a transient event. while most physicists would refer to it as the Faraday Effect. it is mitigated a bit by the electronics, though specific timings and hold off timers. high end fiber optic systems that you would see in massive DWDM networks will have specific hardware deployed where OPGW cable is used in outside plant. A fun video to watch is the "Cosmos" Episode that talks about Faraday, it has a bit of history in it that helps understand this effect.
Thanks for share this nice observation, for me it was free of interference at all (and for use a timestamp, otherwise i would never have noticed it [youtube live comments addon]).
not to mention the big ass sweeping ties arent enough to damage it, now had he "pinched" it 180 degrees out, im willing to bet wed have heard a "snap" and a very red faced linus.
@@NonsensicalSpudz You must have never worked with fiber before. It’s fucking expensive and it’s basically glass on the inside. It’s not like copper where it can bend. If you bend a regular fiber cable it will break.
@@jackson_69_69 if by expensive you mean $20 for 30+m of single mode? You can most certainly bend fiber but you can't go beyond the bend radius which varies depending on who makes the cable. Corning also makes fiber cables so they definitely know what they're doing.
Considering Corning has had bend-insensitive fiber for years (Verizon even uses it in some FiOS deployments), I'm not really that surprised about what Linus was able to do to the fiber. I still wouldn't have done it, but it was good entertainment, despite the cringe factor.
Agreed. We can look at this as just an improved cable, but the fact is this is so much more, this is an absolute gamechanger in some cases. I love tech like this even though I will never need it.
I think corning should add a couple copper threads in the cable solely for the purpose of transferring power. the data will still be protected from radio interference, but the cable would be usable for a lot more general-purpose things if needed. As storage drives get faster, being able to plug them directly into that high-speed cable could prevent some bottlenecks with adapters to add power to the other end
"It might look like any other cable..." But it still had to be blurred, even if you can't tell it apart? (Not questioning Linus, but that's kind of funny)
That's how sensitive companies are with unreleased products and potential IP theft. Chip companies with literally invisible tech inside chips will tell people to blur the CPU as part of the NDA as well.
Because someone in the industry could figure out from the context of the video what it probably was, and other companies would be looking to see things like "OK, how long is that, and how small have they managed to get the plug? Dang, that's small! We need to up our game before we release our competitor product." (or, "Heh, it's not as tiny as ours! We can go ahead and launch now, grab the 'we were first' crown, and still look cooler than them when theirs ships.")
I worked for Corning years ago, great great company....I left Corning to pursue a different career path, so cool to see how far they have moved in regards to bendable fiber with consumer proof abuse. Bending fiber like this was simply impossible in the past. Linus, great video...I wish you could have talked more about what this type of technology could bring in the future. Corning is usually ahead of the game, just like Gorilla glass; it was originally used for the automotive industry (windshields) back in the 50s, and although the formula was there, it took Corning years to find a market that would mass use it (phone and TV manufacturers) to allow investing in mass production technology to lower production cost. Just like Gorilla glass, to certain degree, I think the bottleneck is today's thunderbolt's design and specs and not the optical cable itself. Watching your video makes me think of the bandwidth that was used 10 years ago in all aspects (LAN, WAN, Video, GSM, etc), now think of the bandwidth that will be required 10 years from now....I can imagine 8k (maybe higher) video in all TVs, mobile phones, professional cameras, etc. It would be super awesome to have a home network switch connected to a Thunderbolt NAS (forget RJ45), plus a GPU that can be shared though the home network to multiple computers, this would allow you to use standard laptops/computers to edit 8k video, how about streaming 8k video from the NAS to different TVs/projectors simultaneously...all with the exact same standard (thunderbolt) vs today (RJ45 for network, HDMI for video, USB for peripherals, etc). These are a few examples I can think of for home use, now imagine what can be done for business applications. If thunderbolt technology aligns with what the market needs in the future in regards to bandwidth + one plug&play solution for a wide variety of devices, it could very well allow Corning to invest in a mass production process that would drive the cost way down. Wouldn't it be great to have a single connector type/standard that you could use to hook up your SSDs (internal or external), monitors, network, shared GPU, mobile phones, professional cameras etc??? I know today's optical thunderbolt does not provide power, but who knows 2//3/5/10 years from now, thunderbolt "x" could have two standards (Powered thunderbolt and unpowered thunderbolt) both using fiber optic to maintain bandwidth capabilities....just do some research, years ago there was a fiber optic cable that had a wire in the assembly.
There was this coworker once that was, let's say unmotivated, and got fired 3 times in one day by different supervisors, he got called back for a 4th time and proudly stated, "If I get fired 1 more time, I'm going to quit".
Now this is the kind of mind blowing and bleeding edge technology that we have been waiting for! I hope they do it for every other type of USB-C; That would be amazing.
There is: www.purelink.de/en/connection-cables/usb/3891/usb-3.1-gen-2-aoc-fiber-optic-cable-20.00m I don't have any experience with this cable/fiber but it seems legit, up to 30m and includes copper for power as well (5V, 1.5A). Truth is, USB over fiber has been around for quite a bit. Mostly boxes, though: www.markertek.com/category/usb-over-fiber-extenders This is the first time I am seeing a such a small system that puts everything in such as small case for a reasonable price (the boxes usually cost just as much, but are compatible with regular fiber components...)
@@mixedup5858 I worked with these and yes. I don't really know for backbone fiber but for ftth it's aprox 2/3 which is still very quick. But i heard that a new type of fiber could carry the light at near it's void speed
08:56 he went all around the office with the cable even though the cable was still going to be 50M in the same room. He did it only to prove a point and entertain us with that awesome song 😅
Practical Use: I recently purchased a Vive Eye VR headset with WiGig Wireless, which requires that the computer be near the play area for wireless connectivity. But I also use my computer in my office across the house, and need dual monitors to work. Corning 50m cable and a thunderbolt 3 hub was the perfect solution with no performance hit. I have had no issues and love the setup, both for VR work and Office computer work flawlessly. I am blown away at this cables ability to function it does not make sense to me. This cable defies logic! Probably could have built a whole new PC for the cost though.
I've had the 25m Corning TB3 cable here for several months now so I can run two music production DAW rigs both downstairs and upstairs - all connected to a single Mac mini downstairs. Its so great not to be able to hear the fan when using the upstairs rig over optical. I use the Caldigit TB3 interface upstairs connected to optical and for a while was using another Caldigit downstairs connected directly to the Mac mini (2018). Thankfully everything ... just works. :) I have a 2560 x 1600 DELL monitor upstairs and an LG 3480 x 1600 downstairs. I also run all the audio and USB2/3 feeds over the optical for DAW use and all works fine. This wasn't cheap - costing over £400 but worth it. I had been trying a cat7 gigabit ethernet solution for this - But when doing 4k displays etc plus USB2 and audio - the solution - using DANTE, switches and special KWM type boxes just didn't work -was messy and id have had to move to 10gbe switches at which point everything becomes more expensive. Optical plus Caldigit solved the issue simply.
I was actually hoping I could run my gaming rig in my office and in my living room. This may be a solution I look to without drilling through the floor. These two rooms are basically on top of one another
This is perfect for the Faraday cage protected server room I want in my dream home. One where you have to swipe a card to get into the room. Not because I need it, but because it appeasses my inner nerd.
I like how you stretched the cable out 50 feet just to demonstrate it being in another room, in spite of it changing literally nothing regarding the distance the signal actually had to travel. I bet you had someone else roll it back up too. haha
I only discovered LTT a month ago (not 100% RUclips savvy). I’ve had so much fun going through as many videos in the channel as I can. Such fun episodes! 😁
I mean, it's definitely a niche product ... but ... sadly, I know a few people who will be delighted to see it. So ... awesome! I'm glad tech can come up with these kinds of wacky solutions for niches that need them. And at that pricing, I am REALLY glad to not be one of those people needing this. LOL
Last Video: “It’s time to Disappear Cables”
Now: *I have a BIG secret...*
@@bruh.4992 stop spamming this. this is not the right place for that
Ever wonder what music T5G or x2Twins uses? I made a video on it.
@@bruh.4992 reported
@@vivago727 just report him bro. The accounts will be banned eventually
@@TheCod3r What's the video? I'll admit I'm too scared to watch it
Colton gets fired so often even Linus can't remember if he is still around.
yeah because james fired him lol
He is the 'Kenny' (South Park) of LTT ;)
Colton is fired? Why?
Why though?
@Ur cool 😎 allahu akbar
How did they make fiber Linus proof?
Corning has been working on bendable glass for some 20 years, they're finally on to something,, Flippin cable is gd amazing, real shame about the expense though
Don't talk to me after hating on legends Arceus 🤬
This is why Corning gave him a sample over a year ago
@@gfdia35 Just wait a few more years when other companys can use this. I‘m sure the the will come
@@pogl1263 what you smokin' bruh?
Upcoming Video "Water Cooling a Thunderbolt 2 Cable"
@@bruh.4992 why the hell did you link someone talking in Arabic?
@@bruh.4992 I like it, but I'm sure you could find a better video, maybe younger people talking
@@xyz-vrtgs Just dislike it and comment asking if it's darude sandstorm. That's what i do.
My brain what are these random reply’s to some random dude on this comment
Ever wonder what music T5G or x2Twins uses? I made a video on it.
i love that its literally just a black cable
Yeah like I expected rgb on it.
me too
Way to spoil the video
@@bruh.4992 bruh moment
Lol nah it’s a pickle😂
Fun fact, everytime you had a corner in an optical cable, it slows down the speed of the signal. 50 meters of straight line is faster than 50 meters of "rolled" optical cable (because the light has to bounce on the walls of the core of the cable. It never moves in a perfect straight line inside the cable. (I learnt this in ground military equipment maintenance classes).
This looped fiber optic mechanism is used at stock exchange IEX to induce a 350ms latency intentionally: hackaday.com/2019/02/26/putting-the-brakes-on-high-frequency-trading-with-physics/
That's actually useful information, thanks bro.
Technically, this does increase the path length of the light, but at the literal speed of light there will be no difference in a way that matters here. The only true importance in rolls of fibre is ensuring not to exceed the minimum bend radius (and ensuring the light remains inside the medium).
Wow man... If I had seen that black cable earlier... I would have totally figured out that it is Optical Thunderbolt 3 Cable by Corning.
Thanks for not spoiling it until it was ready for release...
lol
Lol idk why they even bothered, everyone in the comments was saying it was that almost instantly
@@alfiegordon9013 Mainly a JUST IN CASE. You simply don't wanna take the risk of pissing off a huge company with and NDA, but also the Corning rightly wants to take all precautions to safeguard millions in R&D. Also, had they not blurred, people might have inferred the length of the cable and put 2 and 2 together.
😂👌
Sarcasm ...... I love it👍😂👍
Yesterday: "watch cables disappear"
Today: "look at my new cable"
yeah, a real demo would be a small dock on a table with 3 monitors, mouse, keyboard, headset and everything else. And the computer standing in another room with just this cable to the dock
@Matthew Lessall but can she build a PC?
@@gregtay67 probably not
@@Langben121 That's literally what he's already been doing at home (just with a single monitor) for years (since late 2015/early 2016) with Thunderbolt 2.
And like he mentioned in this video, they have a whole five part series showing off that setup.
This is just a better cable with the newer standard.
Nice to see the comment I expected to find this far up :)
did anyone explain to linus that you dont have to unspool the cable to get max distance?
Need to stretch it out to hit that 10 minute mark
I'm very precisely looking for this comment right here.
hes showing you how far you can go with it dummy
@@Bigboikilljoy 50 metre is 50 metre. We know clearly the distance it can go, 50 metre.
@@hikarinogami4990 Ever heard of an example 🙄
Jesus, I've spent hours dealing with broken fiber cable. Linus torturing that cable was basically mocking the days of my life I've lost over the years.
This. This exactly.
The future is now, we're old men.
@@matasa7463 not relatable for me but still good dude
(English isn't my main language I don't know if this an actual pun)
@@fietae It's a meme reference to a similar line that was said in Malcom in the Middle - "The future is now, old man!"
480USD for a 50m fibre-optics thunderbolt cable? I was actually expecting it to be somewhere like 800 to 1000. If you consider the market for a cable like that, it's not even THAT crazy. It's the 5m that's 360USD that is pretty expensive.
Damn, it's a good deal.
I think its not the fibre but the ends that are so expensive
@@polygorg linus literally said that lmao
that was quite the plot twist in this video
We ended up having to add some disk trays to one of our arrays cross-row due to poor planning, so the vendor kindly sold us two 10m 12Gb/s SAS optical cables for $15,000 USD. Sub $500 USD for a 50m optical Thundebolt cable sounds pretty sweet.
Zack: Glass is glass and glass, breaks.
Corning: Nope
Jup. They made a name for themselves with their durable glass.
@@gingersnaps6941 Aren't they the same people behind Gorilla Glass.
@@grn1 yup
Probavly its just polymer fiber
@@az2e686 I honestly didn't know polymer fiber cables were a thing. Turns out, their range, bandwidth and speeds are limited but they are mechanically more flexible and you can actually repair them! Thanks for the input!
I work at Corning and do fiber development, so it's super cool to see what our products are able to do at the consumer level, even if it is such a niche market. Thank you for reviewing this stuff Linus!
So were you cringing as hard as I was when he was tying six knots in the cable and banging it against the table?
Can it survive a young child?
I was using one of your pots, and somehow it's cracked inside :(
I want to give this a thumbs-up, but it has 69 likes right now, so...
Lil sussy your comment, i dont believe you
Me: "Huh, that sounds pretty neat. I think I'll look int...."
Linus: "$400 cable"
Me: "..."
LTT: $400 cable to a $4000 GPU!
Me: …..cool? I guess?
Just buy the cable, everything else will work out......maybe.
I'd definitely buy one if it was $100
@@TodorKatsarski I Would just buy the 50 meter one, there 0 point in buying something only 5 meters if its only 100 dollars less.
@@dannydivito7858 There's 1 point: you only need 5 meters. You're falling for the sunk cost fallacy.
A "Linus proofed" cable damn
Corning should put that on the box
As an optical scientist in training, I'm really hyped that a lot of my jargon is appearing in this episode!
As an engineer who works with fiber, I can only shake my head at the design. The cable should be cheap and it should plug into a discrete module like a SFP or similar.
@@Shadowmaster625 You can already see that they had trouble conforming to the Thunderbolt standard - integrating the whole system of transceivers and fibers is pretty much the only way to guarantee compliance.
@@Shadowmaster625 it likely will at some point, once the manufacturing process improves. It all has to start somewhere.
As a gamer I could of bought 40 packets of cheese chips instead.
@@Shadowmaster625 Well, remember how big of a flop fiber-based audio was? If it's thunderbolt, it needs a TON of individual connections for signaling. This definitely increases the cost compared to a single fiber.
"Looks like any other cable"
Blurs it.
yeah it looks like a cable
Looking at how it's constructed and what it has in it, it's not just another cable. It's actually insane they managed to fit 2 electrical-optical convertors inside those small connectors.
A Japanese exclusive
@@bruh.4992 noone cares about religion! The stone age is over! ...the medieval times are over... we're past the imaginary figures now
@@teemuleppa3347 ok but thats your opinion
Huh, no crap. I work for Corning. I'm actually sitting in our cafeteria right now eating lunch. Enjoy!
Rule 30. There are no [Corning employees] on the internet
Linus has got me excited over a cable. damn.
What about sandals?
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I was gonna like it but it is at the funny number, sorry?
I actually had to look away when the knots got too much… I’m hella impressed! Something like this would be an incredible option as a recording studio owner too / being able to keep the PC out of the main room and isolate the noise and heat etc. stellar!
Not to mention, power supply and ground loop isolation. My first foray into optical tech was Toslink to stop a ground issue that plagued my digital coax connection.
10gig fiber + AVB snake?
As a small studio owner, I have to say only if it doesn't overheat and die like the TB 2 version.
Please make these cables affordable.
"A cable that over heat"
Guess what? Water cooling Thunderbolt cables
"Glass is glass and (this) glass doesnt break"
*scratch
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It does though. If you bend it hard enough.
This is probably the coolest cable I have seen in about 2 or 3 years. Well done Corning, well done.
1:08 A dark mode friendly intro!
No one:
Linus: * Blurs out a black cable that looks like an ordinary USB cable *
Spoiler alert: the no one is Maiva_
@@Gepstra *you
Linus has a new skill: Making knots in the wires and dropping them
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome.
At $400-ish USD, this thing isn't budget-friendly by any means, but it is an engineering marvel. The fact that Corning has managed to pack all that signal processing and conversion into something that just looks like a normal USB-C cable is pretty damn impressive, if you ask me.
Cable length is limited to 50 meters because light ain't fast enough to meet thunderbolt's latency spec. wow!
Wait. Really?
The speed of light is actually very slow when you think about it. It has inconvenienced us humans for a long time.
It is not that light is not fast enough. The reason is that the medium (in this case glass) is to much of a resistance to photonic transmission after 50m for the specs of the cable!
@@Alexei_Drekker Keep in mind, the speed quoted as "The speed of light" is actually the speed of light in a vacuum.
Fun fact: Cherenkov radiation (That blue glow you see around underwater nuclear reactors) is caused by particle radiation from the reactor moving faster than the speed of light in water.
Well, it is, just not when it's constantly being absorbed and retransmitted through solid matter so much. Shoot that light through a vacuum tube and you can add a smidgeon under another 25 metres to that maximum range. Although vacuum on Earth isn't quite as practical a medium as glass fibres.
never felt so uncomfortable watching Linus pulling on that knot.... crriiiing!! had a cold sweat brewing for a sec XD
Day 3 of asking the editor team to add a gun cocking sound effect whenever Linus pulls out his screwdriver from now on.
Do not give up!
"Fiberglass cable need to be treated more carefully than copper ones."
Me during the intro: 👀
Daft Punk 1993-2021
1993-2021
Common sense to smart people...
@@finlandjourney6065 yeah thats why my eyes were so big in the beginning and even bigger later.
@@falcon9482 rip
As Linus starts making those knots... my heart begins to bleed
Right? I was freaking out when he was dangling it.
That was nothing. For a real stress test he should have ran it over with a chair with a person in it 500 times and then tried it again.
Nice pfp. I love ghost in the shell. Certified man of culture.
I wanted to see him hitting the knots with a hammer after that 😂
same. i couldn't look at him tying those knots. hahaha
This was literally EXACTLY what I was looking for. I wanted to see if an optical thunderbolt 3 cable could handle a heavy use case of monitors and peripherals so I could have my computer in another room to reduce heat. As I was watching the video I was thinking "I'd feel a lot more confident if he showed off an external GPU running on it" since I know just how short of a connection those require. Then boom, he shows exactly what I wanted to see. Thank you Linus! You made my decision very easy.
An external GPU is probably the most intensive thing thunderbolt 3 could do, showing that off basically gives a big check mark to any other stress test I could think of. This might be the most influential video I've seen because with this one video showing the durability, bandwidth, and latency of the cable, I'm ready to drop the 400 bucks on one. Corning should use this video on their website because no text or reviews I could read would ever do justice even close to this video.
As an engineer, I can say that this is awesome. And the industry needs this
As an engineer how much did you clench seeing Linus tug on that knot?
As a person who installs and splices fiber, I agree. More fiber for everyone.
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The "As an engineer" is always cringy to see. Especially to those who are actually ones. But this really goes to anyone who says "As an *insert profession here*"
Especially when you say that and not state what field you are in...
@@1kuhny You're right, I work at the R&D department af a company that designes ANPR cameras. It's always a hard decision to select the interfacing between a camera and a processing unit. This solution is very compact and not sensitive for EMC. That's why I love it
Man, I was hoping for a…bigger secret ;)
Oh no
I was hoping for him to reveal his real identity, I searched it up and he's a wanted criminal.
Yeah. The pickle was kinda small
@@camerong.5989😳
@@camerong.5989 oof
This literally changes my life as someone who runs a recording studio
Fellow studio nerd here. 👍
I clenched my jaw so hard when he wrenched that knotted optical cable....I must have shattered a tooth or two
My body was in full cringe mode when I saw that
Can we just appreciate how large LMG has grown? The fact that he went from a house to now a large enough space that he can walk the cable all the way out is inspiring.
Also of note is he still owns that house. I recall him mentioning it on a WAN show. Thats called being good a business. Instead of spending the money on a flashy car. They purchased the other units. Instead of getting a Robot dog, they upstarted Floatplane. Floatplane and the Forum is outright about not being under the thumb of 1 corporation (aka RUclips).
One of the coolest pieces of tech to date. Seemingly innocuous, but massive in its implications and potential.
As an electronics engineer, watching you bend the optical cable made me so anxious that now the chocolate at my house is gone
I cringed just as bad and I dropped out of highschool. I'm not sure how being an engineer has anything to do with knowing that a glass fiber in a cable is delicate.
Or did _you_ need to go to college to figure that out? Or more likely, are you just another real life example of the meme that engineers need to tell the whole world that theyre an engineer?
Or even more likely, both?
@@herranton Found the neckbeard
@@elijahmitchell-hopmeier182 That doesn't even make sense... My post had zero neck beard vibes. If you want to try again with something that makes sense, I can wait.
@@elijahmitchell-hopmeier182 Neckbeards typically finish highschool.
@@herranton had you stayed in high school you might have learned that fiber optic cables are not only made of glass but also plastic and glass/plastic composite. maybe i dropped out of a better school system than you
Can we appreciate him for never making us bored.
Ever wonder what music T5G or x2Twins uses? I made a video on it.
the only thing that makes me sad is where is he getting all thoses video cards from???
@@FortniteNewsRUclips reported for spam
@@hunterbear2421 most of them aer just reused. They have a pretty large archive of stuff and they breakdown and rebuild things constantly. I wouldn't be surprised if they literally have like 2 3090s tops. They've mentioned in past videos how they couldn't use a certain component cause it was in another build. You can also tell how over time they keep reusing the same hardware (like RAM sticks or graphics cards) and then when a new one comes out they keep reusing that for months.
@@dennispremoli7950 oh i know they keep reusing the hardware and such still sad through seeing a rtx 3080 and such and not being able to buy one
6:29 Linus gets knotty with desk-kun
What in the actual f-
I love it when Corning makes something in another seemingly industry
they just show up and go "you know that cable you've been using? we made it out of glass and it's better now"
I have to me honest, the titles and thumbnails that LTT use are brilliant
Facts
Corning has always been on the forefront of glass innovation. Aside from inventing fiber-optic cables, they have worked on projects ranging from glass in spaceships, to flat-screen LCDs as early as the 80s.
13:08 that someone was crying when you opened the cable and twisted it into knots
I can just imagine their satisfaction, however, when the transfer didn't stop.
Would have loved to see a latency test to the monitor in a final configured setup, including the dock/hub hardware.
@Ur cool 😎 What is that crap?
@@hippopotamus86 It's called a spammer
So this weekend I bought cables to put my PC in another room because I was inspired by your video from a year ago. And now when it is almost completely installed I see this video. Brilliant timing sir. :)
"You wanna get knotty?"
Ohhhh boy Linus you don't wanna be saying that.
Remember when he started an OnlyFans? And you think this crosses the line? lol.
@@williamgrove9617 whaddya think he likes to do in his OnlyFans :p
@@thebasketofgoods9753 Performance testing I hope.
Some furry is getting excited :D
“Wanna get knotty”
Linus- 2021
Furry Linus's Freudian slip
@@toxiccan175 OnO
@@toxiccan175 OwO
OwO what's that?
Woah, glad to see my a product from my hometown being reviewed. From Corning, NY cheers!
8:56 that vocals tho- linus- that's YOUR secret talent?!?
Not bagminton?
@@NineEyeRon right?!?!
Sounds like this might be an amazing VR headset cable someday!
i dont have a vr- headset, but you would need another cable for power or a batterie, right?
@@Phillybilli yup wouldn’t work well
The oculus link cable is already a 5M fibre optic USB c cable
In regards to what was said at 12:22. Light traveling in fiberoptics can in fact be affected by magnetic interference. I work in Fiber optic telecommunications , and while its very rare to occur, it takes something like a lightning strike on OPGW cable for it to matter. in telco its called a transient event. while most physicists would refer to it as the Faraday Effect.
it is mitigated a bit by the electronics, though specific timings and hold off timers. high end fiber optic systems that you would see in massive DWDM networks will have specific hardware deployed where OPGW cable is used in outside plant.
A fun video to watch is the "Cosmos" Episode that talks about Faraday, it has a bit of history in it that helps understand this effect.
Thanks for share this nice observation, for me it was free of interference at all (and for use a timestamp, otherwise i would never have noticed it [youtube live comments addon]).
Did you know: A cable gets longer when you unroll it from its spool. :D
12:40 I worked in military aviation, those prices are well within norms for those lengths
This cable has swag
The way he’s manhandling an optical cable makes me very uncomfortable
of all the things hes handled and dropped this makes you unconformable
not to mention the big ass sweeping ties arent enough to damage it, now had he "pinched" it 180 degrees out, im willing to bet wed have heard a "snap" and a very red faced linus.
@@NonsensicalSpudz You must have never worked with fiber before. It’s fucking expensive and it’s basically glass on the inside. It’s not like copper where it can bend. If you bend a regular fiber cable it will break.
@@jackson_69_69 if by expensive you mean $20 for 30+m of single mode? You can most certainly bend fiber but you can't go beyond the bend radius which varies depending on who makes the cable. Corning also makes fiber cables so they definitely know what they're doing.
Considering Corning has had bend-insensitive fiber for years (Verizon even uses it in some FiOS deployments), I'm not really that surprised about what Linus was able to do to the fiber. I still wouldn't have done it, but it was good entertainment, despite the cringe factor.
Honestly, i find those prices very acceptable for such a niche product 😂
Agreed. We can look at this as just an improved cable, but the fact is this is so much more, this is an absolute gamechanger in some cases. I love tech like this even though I will never need it.
I think corning should add a couple copper threads in the cable solely for the purpose of transferring power. the data will still be protected from radio interference, but the cable would be usable for a lot more general-purpose things if needed. As storage drives get faster, being able to plug them directly into that high-speed cable could prevent some bottlenecks with adapters to add power to the other end
USB be fallback and direct DP would be nice too.
Who could have guessed that Linus’ secret was that he had a long black thing
Who cares though if it's just a fraction of a mm wide though.
At least not a kinky one.
Every time I hear Corning now, I'm reminded of the book about Jobs' and reading how the CEO of Corning taught Job's about how glass worked.
Corning is a great little city and I feel pride whenever I see their products in the wild
14:06 I love how the editor name is "Knot Mark" 😂😂
"It might look like any other cable..."
But it still had to be blurred, even if you can't tell it apart?
(Not questioning Linus, but that's kind of funny)
That's how sensitive companies are with unreleased products and potential IP theft. Chip companies with literally invisible tech inside chips will tell people to blur the CPU as part of the NDA as well.
Because someone in the industry could figure out from the context of the video what it probably was, and other companies would be looking to see things like "OK, how long is that, and how small have they managed to get the plug? Dang, that's small! We need to up our game before we release our competitor product." (or, "Heh, it's not as tiny as ours! We can go ahead and launch now, grab the 'we were first' crown, and still look cooler than them when theirs ships.")
I worked for Corning years ago, great great company....I left Corning to pursue a different career path, so cool to see how far they have moved in regards to bendable fiber with consumer proof abuse. Bending fiber like this was simply impossible in the past.
Linus, great video...I wish you could have talked more about what this type of technology could bring in the future. Corning is usually ahead of the game, just like Gorilla glass; it was originally used for the automotive industry (windshields) back in the 50s, and although the formula was there, it took Corning years to find a market that would mass use it (phone and TV manufacturers) to allow investing in mass production technology to lower production cost.
Just like Gorilla glass, to certain degree, I think the bottleneck is today's thunderbolt's design and specs and not the optical cable itself. Watching your video makes me think of the bandwidth that was used 10 years ago in all aspects (LAN, WAN, Video, GSM, etc), now think of the bandwidth that will be required 10 years from now....I can imagine 8k (maybe higher) video in all TVs, mobile phones, professional cameras, etc. It would be super awesome to have a home network switch connected to a Thunderbolt NAS (forget RJ45), plus a GPU that can be shared though the home network to multiple computers, this would allow you to use standard laptops/computers to edit 8k video, how about streaming 8k video from the NAS to different TVs/projectors simultaneously...all with the exact same standard (thunderbolt) vs today (RJ45 for network, HDMI for video, USB for peripherals, etc). These are a few examples I can think of for home use, now imagine what can be done for business applications. If thunderbolt technology aligns with what the market needs in the future in regards to bandwidth + one plug&play solution for a wide variety of devices, it could very well allow Corning to invest in a mass production process that would drive the cost way down.
Wouldn't it be great to have a single connector type/standard that you could use to hook up your SSDs (internal or external), monitors, network, shared GPU, mobile phones, professional cameras etc??? I know today's optical thunderbolt does not provide power, but who knows 2//3/5/10 years from now, thunderbolt "x" could have two standards (Powered thunderbolt and unpowered thunderbolt) both using fiber optic to maintain bandwidth capabilities....just do some research, years ago there was a fiber optic cable that had a wire in the assembly.
OHHHHHHHH my god, the day you told it was a secret, it was an itch in my back. Now FINALLY I am satisfied.
There was this coworker once that was, let's say unmotivated, and got fired 3 times in one day by different supervisors, he got called back for a 4th time and proudly stated, "If I get fired 1 more time, I'm going to quit".
Now this is the kind of mind blowing and bleeding edge technology that we have been waiting for! I hope they do it for every other type of USB-C; That would be amazing.
There is: www.purelink.de/en/connection-cables/usb/3891/usb-3.1-gen-2-aoc-fiber-optic-cable-20.00m
I don't have any experience with this cable/fiber but it seems legit, up to 30m and includes copper for power as well (5V, 1.5A).
Truth is, USB over fiber has been around for quite a bit. Mostly boxes, though: www.markertek.com/category/usb-over-fiber-extenders
This is the first time I am seeing a such a small system that puts everything in such as small case for a reasonable price (the boxes usually cost just as much, but are compatible with regular fiber components...)
10:30 you know you wire is from the future when your limited by the speed of light
generally in fiber optic cable the light travel at 2/3 of it's void speed
I thought it's limited by the speed of decoding and encoding the signal..
@@houssamalucad753 depend how the signal is encoded. if you don't use code that transmits multiple bits per symbols then it's easier to decode.
@@deokureta108 how about fiber to the home cable? Still 2/3 speed?
@@mixedup5858 I worked with these and yes. I don't really know for backbone fiber but for ftth it's aprox 2/3 which is still very quick.
But i heard that a new type of fiber could carry the light at near it's void speed
First time ever I agree with the high price of a cable
Yeah, this is the only one worth the price.
Given that it’s pride month, I thought the title “revealing my big secret” was going to be something completely different...
I cleared a room the last time my Vertical Cavity Surface Emitting kicked in.
your surface emitting what?
08:56 he went all around the office with the cable even though the cable was still going to be 50M in the same room. He did it only to prove a point and entertain us with that awesome song 😅
Practical Use: I recently purchased a Vive Eye VR headset with WiGig Wireless, which requires that the computer be near the play area for wireless connectivity. But I also use my computer in my office across the house, and need dual monitors to work. Corning 50m cable and a thunderbolt 3 hub was the perfect solution with no performance hit. I have had no issues and love the setup, both for VR work and Office computer work flawlessly. I am blown away at this cables ability to function it does not make sense to me. This cable defies logic! Probably could have built a whole new PC for the cost though.
The way it hangs in his hand while being blurred out... I've been on the internet too much.
With this cable, I could store my laptop in the freezer, that way I could finally make use of the chips I paid for. Thanks Dell!
my i5 8250u in my HP could also take advantage of the extra cooling
Didn't LTT already try that? (Or was it Technology Connections?)
@@Formedras They did something like that many years ago. It was a computer case, not a laptop I think
That water cooled Mac, too!
"...and then he turned himself into a pickle Anthony. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
And then he turned it into a pickle, funniest shit I’ve ever seen.
You know you've watched enough Linus when you can sense the pause before the sponsor message
ill never have use for that cable but hats off to the corning people! That's incredible!
One of the coolest product innovations I have seen in a long time. Way to go Corning and way to go LTT for giving a crap about things like this.
That’s literally what Linus does. Give a crap about things like this 😅
This could be huge if they can mass produce it. You'd still see a faster speed at 5 meters
When you realize they didn't need to roll out all that cable... :D
😂 a 50m cable is a 50m cable. It could have been right next to him lol. I wonder if he just did if the optics?
@@darnellreid458 seriously! Lol
Pretty sure it was just for a visual demo and to prove a point.
if you don't want any entertainment, go read a blog, maybe RUclips isn't for you.
Oh that was just a quick LTT tour
tying a fiber optic cable into a knot is blowing my mid, the term micro fractures was one of the scariest terms in using fiber. That cable is AMZING!
Linus should have said „this cable is for sure bdsm rated“
@@GeraintDafis yes
Kinky data transfers.
@@Fullchaos40 Welcome
6:39 I see the knotty knot, and I feel bad for the one who needs to untangle it later.
I've had the 25m Corning TB3 cable here for several months now so I can run two music production DAW rigs both downstairs and upstairs - all connected to a single Mac mini downstairs. Its so great not to be able to hear the fan when using the upstairs rig over optical. I use the Caldigit TB3 interface upstairs connected to optical and for a while was using another Caldigit downstairs connected directly to the Mac mini (2018). Thankfully everything ... just works. :) I have a 2560 x 1600 DELL monitor upstairs and an LG 3480 x 1600 downstairs. I also run all the audio and USB2/3 feeds over the optical for DAW use and all works fine. This wasn't cheap - costing over £400 but worth it. I had been trying a cat7 gigabit ethernet solution for this - But when doing 4k displays etc plus USB2 and audio - the solution - using DANTE, switches and special KWM type boxes just didn't work -was messy and id have had to move to 10gbe switches at which point everything becomes more expensive. Optical plus Caldigit solved the issue simply.
I was honestly expecting like a 1000 dollar cable, so when I saw less than 400 I was blown away.
Same here. What does that say about us when $400.00 is a bargain?
I was actually hoping I could run my gaming rig in my office and in my living room. This may be a solution I look to without drilling through the floor. These two rooms are basically on top of one another
Look into Parsec and/or Moonlight. I actually end up using those more than I do actually sitting at my gaming computer.
This is perfect for the Faraday cage protected server room I want in my dream home. One where you have to swipe a card to get into the room. Not because I need it, but because it appeasses my inner nerd.
Every fiber tech is crying at the mistreatment of that poor cable. I literally screamed at my screen when he started yanking on it...
I think that was the point. It’s supposed to be durable lol
I think Linus Media owes anyone who has worked in a datacenter or Telco and watched this video a months worth of anxiety medication.
I still don't know much about fiber tech, but it really interests me and just watching him torture such an expensive cable is horrific.
@@centran The sound of fiber slapping around sounds the exact same as it cracking. You would think I'd get used to it. But I cringe every time.
FINALLY, I've been wondering about this for a long time. Like actually haha
I like how you stretched the cable out 50 feet just to demonstrate it being in another room, in spite of it changing literally nothing regarding the distance the signal actually had to travel. I bet you had someone else roll it back up too. haha
6:16
Linus: ties a knot in the cable and pulls it tight
Me: STOP IT!!!
You have to be more specific, an optical cable. "STOP IT" are not the words I would use! :D
"Glass is Glass And glass breaks"
I'm sure someone said this....
...scratches at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7
Corning been innovating in the glass industry for over 100 years. This is actually sick
I only discovered LTT a month ago (not 100% RUclips savvy). I’ve had so much fun going through as many videos in the channel as I can. Such fun episodes! 😁
When he started mistreating the cable I really started to wish I hadn't created mankind
That's where the line was crossed? Ehhhh.
I mean, it's definitely a niche product ... but ... sadly, I know a few people who will be delighted to see it. So ... awesome! I'm glad tech can come up with these kinds of wacky solutions for niches that need them. And at that pricing, I am REALLY glad to not be one of those people needing this. LOL