Tampa, Florida - Traveling Robert
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- In this final installment of the Tampa Bay travel vlog we are going to visit Tampa proper over the course of three afternoons. We are attending the Florida Rv Supershow in the morning.
On the first day we stay in the car most of the time, just getting a little bit of the lay of the land. We drive on the street that claims to have the longest sidewalk in the world, Bayshore Boulevard. We also drive through Hyde Park, a historic district, home to the famous Bern’s Steakhouse. The southernmost point of our exploratory trip is Ballast Point Park, from where we get extraordinary views of downtown across the bay.
On our second day we have lunch at the oldest continuously operating restaurant in Florida. Also the oldest Spanish restaurant in the United States, and one of the largest in the wold. Its name is The Columbia. While we are in Ybor City we explore some of the historic sites and take a round trip on the TECO line street car to downtown.
On our third day, we eat at a trendy restaurant called Ulele, on the riverfront. We also explore downtown a little bit and the University of Tampa on the other side of the Hillsborough River. The Henry B. Plant Hall, is a historic building, formerly the legendary Tampa Bay Hotel. Nowadays it hosts the Henry B. Plant Museum as well as some of the University services.
Overall it was a great time. On our way out we bid farewell to one of Americas iconic roadside attractions, the Airstream ranch, which was demolished just a few days after our visit.
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Well done! I live in Tampa. Excellent tour of my city, and wonderful narration.
I love my hometown Tampa Bay! So glad you showed Columbia, that place is so good!
Mike Bird you only go to ybor at night to get drunk, high, or shot. Daytime is all about the cigars baby
Hi Robert! I know you hear it all the time, but I really want to thank and congratulate you on your videos! I discovered you through your California road trip video, because I am planning on moving there soon, and then I saw these Tampa Bay videos and had to watch. I lived in Clearwater and Tarpon Springs up until last year, so watching these videos felt like going home again. Thank you for your incredible work, and I wish you all the success in the world with your channel. It truly is awesome!
Thank you so much. Glad you liked it
Videos are very helpful, it will help me decide where I will be going on my next Florida vacation, thanks!
Thanks for the great Tampa video. There aren't a lot of good Tampa tourist videos on the RUclips. Yours is great.
I lived in Tampa for 12 years and loved every inch of it and its history
Cool.
Wow
Excellent tour. Thank you once again ❤
im going to Tampa next month and so glad I came across this video. im so excited to go!! Thanks for sharing!
Have a great time in Tampa
Very nice robert highly educational you must be a history buff you sure do know your
history learn something today from watching your video thank you ,
Thanks for the videos Robert. You are giving me great ideas for future retirement destinations.
+Dax C Thanks. Glad to help
I really enjoy traveling with you! I live Michigan City, Indiana and its cold and rainy today. I know I'll never see the places you take us, except for you. Thank you, I feel as though I know you!😉
morning robert another fantastic vlog. thanks for reading my comments on the live feed the other day it made my daughters evening .keep up the good work .only 433 day till were back it florida .
Thanks!
This is a great video! Very detailed and informative. Moving to the Tampa area next year. Very Helpful! Thank you!!😊
Did I end up moving to Tampa?
thanks Robert, that was neat to see Tampa and Ybor City and all the cool things.
Glad you liked it
Can't wait to be in Tampa this November for 5 months from Canada! We will be exploring Florida as much as we can!
Nice video and excellent narration! As a Tampa native, it was a pleasure to watch. Your comments were spot on with Ybor too, it has so much potential, but just lacks residents. This is something that seems to be changing for the better though. Downtown and Ybor have been seeing an increase in residential development in recent years and I hope that trend continues. Tampa so much potential and many hidden jewels. Thank you for highlighting a few!
NaqoyqatZ Tampa born and raised ❣
Do any of you have any tips for someone coming there for the first time to spend a weekend? Thanks
I agree with you completely! I am also a native of the area and this video was wonderful. As for the condition of the neighborhood around Ybor...... Wait until they built that new baseball stadium!
Glad they did not build the stadium down there, it would had brought the place down nothing but business and rich people will move in driving up everything
Nooooo!! Not the air stream roadside site gone!! That sucks! So glad you filmed it, thank you Robert. Another interesting vlog from you, thank you so much
Thank you!
Love this video! The fancy restaurant is wonderful. You always have a wonderful time.
+Kustomcity Drag Buses Glad you liked it 😀
Great video Robert, thanks for posting
Great video, I enjoyed from the beginning to the end. Keep up the good work.
I’m a Tampa native although I moved to PA at the end of 2011. You paint a great picture of my hometown. And great choice of restaurants with Columbia and Ulele, 2 of my personal favorites.
Thanks for your videos Robert.
That round skyscraper is affectionately referred to as 'the beer can'. I've been to the Ybor City Columbia Restaurant a few times. The food is excellent and the service is impeccable. It's the closest experience I've had to fine European dining. I really enjoy your videos. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for sharing your videos!!!! I LOVE to watch them! :)
+Sheshe661972 Thank you!
Another superb, high quality production.
You are the best, Robert
Great Video, i hope the travel channel hires you one day ,you have the talent to do so.
I go to Tampa about 3 times a year to visit my son, I love it there great video 👍
Thank you Robert! You're Tampa video inspired my wife and me to park in Ybor City and take the Trolley downtown and tour the Plant Museum. We live just north of Tampa but don't do the tourist thing very often. Great video. Thanks again.
Cool. Glad to be of service 🤓
Verry nice video Robert :D I reminds me of my last Holiday in Tampa. It was a wonderfull time and i love this place. I really hope that i can move someday to Florida it would be a so nice it is a wish for life :D You guys really lives in paradise
Very Good. Robert .I love your videos.
I am very surprised you don't have a lot more subscribers. At least 100k. Your videos are very good, and I look forward to them. Try to do a collaboration with other you tubers so that your name gets out there.
I would say it's because of the music... it really puts me off. So informative, though.
Robert, you won't believe how many videos I had to go through to find this one. I watched this video while my husband was gone. I told him about the Columbia Restaurant. Then I did research on line about the restaurant. So fascinating! You are to do a video documentary about the Restaurant and the 6 generation involved. Columbia Restaurant
Florida’s Oldest Restaurant History
Founded in 1905 by Cuban immigrant Casimiro Hernandez, Sr., the Columbia Restaurant is Florida’s oldest restaurant℠, and the largest Spanish restaurant in the world.
It began in Tampa’s Ybor City, (pronounced EE-bore) as a small 60-seat corner cafe known for its Cuban coffee and authentic Cuban sandwiches, frequented by the local cigar workers.
As the Prohibition movement gained steam, Casimiro Sr. faced a bitter dilemma. He could lose his saloon or find a new use for the Columbia. He did not have to look far. Manuel Garcia, who owned La Fonda, the restaurant next door, agreed in 1919 to join him and retain the name “Columbia.” The size of the Columbia doubled overnight. Also in 1919, his son, Casimiro Hernandez Jr., joined the business. Following the death of Casimiro Sr. in 1929, Casimiro Jr. took over ownership and operation of the restaurant.
Casimiro Jr. aspired to take the Columbia beyond its humble beginnings and envisioned an elegant dining room with music and dancing, the likes of which were unheard of in this part of the country at the time. During the height of the Depression in 1935, he took a chance by building the first air-conditioned dining room in Tampa, complete with an elevated dance floor. He named it the Don Quixote Room.
Casimiro Jr. and his wife, Carmen, had one child, Adela Hernandez Gonzmart. Adela was a concert pianist who was trained at the Juilliard School of Music. In 1946, Adela married Cesar Gonzmart, a concert violinist. They traveled throughout the United States while Cesar performed in famous supper clubs during the early 1950s. In 1953, Adela’s father, Casimiro Jr., was in failing health, so they returned to Tampa. They divided the business duties of operating the restaurant and raising their two sons, Casey and Richard.
The family persevered in keeping the restaurant open during the late 1950s and all through the 1960s when Ybor City was dying. Many of the row houses that once housed the cigar workers had decayed into slums. Urban renewal cut the heart from the Latin Quarter. More families moved out. Businesses closed. Cesar Gonzmart realized they had to do something to bring people back to Ybor City.
Cesar had a flair for the artistic, and upon taking over direction of the restaurant, he built the Siboney Room in 1956. Some of the top Latin talent during that era came to perform in this large showroom. Who would have thought that world class entertainment could be found at a restaurant? Columbia survived those lean years and came back stronger than ever. The entertainment tradition continues today at Columbia Restaurant in Ybor City, where Spanish flamenco dancers perform every night except Sunday.
During Cesar Gonzmart’s reign, the Columbia also expanded to other locations in Florida. In 1959, Columbia Restaurant opened on St. Armands Circle in Sarasota. Today it is Sarasota’s oldest restaurant.
Cesar and Adela’s sons, Richard and Casey, began working at Columbia Restaurant in Ybor City when each turned 12-years-old. They started off with receiving merchandise in the restaurant & stocking shelves, and worked their way through all the different cooking stations within the kitchen.
Casey’s formal education in hotel and restaurant administration continued at the Ecole Hoteliere in Lausanne, Switzerland, and at La Escuela Sidical de Hosteleria in Madrid, Spain. He apprenticed at the Ledoyen Restaurant in Paris, France, and the Inter-Continental Hotel in Geneva, Switzerland.
Richard graduated high school from Tampa’s Jesuit High School in 1971 and continued at the University of Denver School of Hotel and Restaurant Management and attended the University of Madrid, Escuela de Hosteleria.
Both Casey and Richard returned to Columbia Restaurant upon completion of their education and worked in the family business with their father. Casey managed the Sarasota location for many years. Richard and Casey, along with their father, opened additional Columbia Restaurants. In 1983 they opened a Columbia Restaurant in St. Augustine’s Historic District, and Richard managed this location for two years. The business continued to grow, and they opened at Sand Key in 1989 and in Central Florida’s town of Celebration in 1997. In 2009 the Columbia Cafe on the Riverwalk in Tampa at the Tampa History Center opened. And in May 2012, the family opened the Columbia Restaurant Cafe at Tampa International Airport.
Following Cesar Gonzmart’s death in 1992, his sons, 4th generation brothers Casey and Richard assumed leadership of the Columbia Restaurants.
To this day, more than 114 years since it first opened, the Columbia remains in the same family.
Richard is the CEO/President and Casey serves as the Chairman of the Board. The 5th generation is also involved; Richard’s daughter, Andrea, and Casey’s son, Casey Jr., work in the corporate office.
Richard and his wife, Melanie, live in Tampa. Their daughters, Lauren and Andrea, also live in Tampa. Lauren has four children, twins Michael and Isabella, Maximilian and Alexander, and daughter Andrea has one child, Amelia. Their children represent the 6th generation.
Casey and his wife, Heidi, live in Tampa and have a son, Carson. Casey has seven children who represent the 5th generation, Cassandra, Casey Jr., Jessica, Charlie, Christian, Marlena and Carson. Casey’s daughter, Jessica, has two children, and his son, Casey has one child who represent the 6th generation.
Over the years, Columbia Restaurant has attracted some of the most well known athletes and entertainers from yesteryear to today. From Babe Ruth to Derek Jeter, Lou Piniella, Ken Griffey Jr. and Barry Larkin, from Liberace to Bruce Springsteen, Steven Tyler of Aerosmith and Brian Johnson of ACDC, from Jack Dempsey and Rocky Marciano to Evander Holyfield, from Marilyn Monroe and Liza Minelli to Bo Derek, everyone enjoys the Columbia. Other recent visitors include George Clooney, Stephen King, Bryant Gumbel, Brooke Shields, and Lauren Hutton.
Richard and Casey Gonzmart have completed several rewarding projects, including building a building in 2001 to house a 5,000+ square foot kitchen in the Ybor City restaurant founded by their great-grandfather in 2001. The new kitchen was built in what was a parking lot/delivery area on the south side of the restaurant. The Gonzmart’s made a close to $2 million investment in building the new kitchen to sustain growth at the restaurant and to keep pace with the city's growth.
The old kitchen space was remodeled and turned into two new dining rooms; the Andalucia and the Familia de Casimiro. These are the first new dining rooms built in the restaurant since 1956. The Familia de Casimiro was named in honor of Richard & Casey’s great-grandfather and the founder of the restaurant, Casimiro Hernandez Sr., and is designed to resemble a Spanish wine cellar, with space for private meetings.
The Andalucia seats up to 80 people, and the Familia de Casimiro seats up to 30 people. These two new dining rooms add an additional 110 seats to the restaurant, and bring the total number of dining rooms to fifteen, with seating for up to 1,700 people. The restaurant has a grand total of 52,000 square feet, and encompasses an entire city block.
The new kitchen and dining rooms were part of a $6.5 million renovation project that prepared the restaurant for its 100th anniversary in 2005. Other completed projects include new state-of-the-art bathrooms for men and women with toilets that automatically flush, and faucets that automatically turn on and off. Additional finished projects include the renovated Siboney Banquet Room, new wine cellars, and a new, energy efficient air conditioning system.
Since 1905, the Hernandez/Gonzmart family has owned and operated the Columbia Restaurant in Ybor City.
The Columbia Restaurant was founded in 1905 and is Florida’s oldest restaurant℠. Locations include the flagship restaurant in Tampa’s Historic Ybor City, additional locations include St. Armands Circle in Sarasota, the Historic District in St. Augustine, Sand Key on Clearwater Beach, Central Florida's town of Celebration, the Columbia Cafe on the Riverwalk in Tampa and the Columbia Restaurant Cafe at Tampa International Airport.
All Columbia locations are owned and operated by 4th and 5th generation members of the founding family; except for Columbia Restaurant Cafe at Tampa International Airport; which is operated in partnership with HMSHost.
Great video I'm sure we have visited Tampa from the uk was Busch gardens there a few years ago
Hey @travelingrobert. I realize that this is an older video and that someone may have already answered this and you've fixed it, but incase you haven't I know that when there are two or more "auto-stabilization" functions turned on (like if i had "auto-stab" featured turned on on both the smartphone itself and the gimbal/stabilizer that it's on, it is usually the reason that the jerking footage is being captured because both auto-stab functions are turned on but they don't communicate/coordinate with one another and so whenever the camera tries to stab the footage one way it's munting is stabbing the footage in the opposite way. And therefore, the solution is to turn one of them off so that only one auto-stab function is in control. It's either that or it was windy or a combination of both. Great video!
For all those saying stuff negative about Tampa if you drive in the morning there is not much traffic but it starts getting heavy around 1 in the afternoon but it isnt as bad is Orlando. Tampa is amazing so many latins and hispanics its full if culture and quite affordable. There is enough to do here and i love it!!!! Its a very alive city with a hispanic vibe to it. There is some closer signs here and there like other citys but lots of developments are coming in replacing those old storefronts. I love this city and everything about it!!!!
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You sir are an awesome tour guide!!
Great job! was just in Tampa and you hit the nail on the head. Was disappointed that many streets were empty. Thought it was more going on.Keep up the great work
Thanks! I remember it being livelier in previous trips... but it may have been my perception.
Tampa is just very spread out. It has it's moments, but until the Vinik project is complete or there is a major event don't expect much street activity.
I MISS TAMPA. I WANT TO MOVE BACK TO FLORIDA. I SHOULD HAVE NEVER LEFT. THANKS FOR POSTING
Hi! Wow, Im going to visit Tampa for a few days, do you think its worth visiting St. Petes and book a separate hotel/apt to check it more thorough or if I stay in Tampa I shall just stick to my Tampa booking? Thanks in advance :)
i think it's worth it to book a hotel in St. Petersburg. I would spend more time in St. Petersburg, it's a nicer city for tourism and closer to better beaches
@@sterlingblake7655 thanks so much.
for sure. i wish i could go with you. San Diego is ok, but it never rains here and i like Clouds
TAMPA the greatest city on [planet earth]!!!
I like how you used the Hispanic music while showing the Columbia Restaurant. I am a Tampa native. Good video, Robert.
Joan Hazelgrove you mean Latin
Yes, Corwin, thank you.
Excellent narration and information!
Verry educational. Great job.
You narration and voice is amazing!!
Thank you!
Fantastic video as always... I got a bit of a laugh out of that banner for the Dead Kennedys. If it weren't for the copyright issues, it would have been funny to hear one of their tunes while you were walking around.
Thanks!
Thank you. Very interesting !
Hi Robert. Have you been to Big Cat Rescue in Tampa. They save and protect big cats. If you time your visit to their schedule you can see them feed the cats. My favorite cat is Tabu a white tiger. Thank you for your great videos!
Awesome video as always. C u on the road! Happy travels: )
+1970boobear Happy travels!
ps. It's paella & sangria tonight, thanks to you haha
Pretty cool Video, could get some good ideas about the city !
Robert, u mention the downturn in Ybor city, am genuinely concerned, have things picked up recently or is this a more permanent trend?
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Glad you liked it
Thanks lots for the video. :)
Hola.. I must say that I really like this video-just because it gave me some ideas about this city of Tampa. Furthermore, because for a long while now I was thinking about relocating to this city after I graduate from college and use my degree in this city, so on.. Plus, I want to know if you have any more and updated videos about Florida? Such as in St. Petersburg, Clear-water and Jacksonville.. Let me know something soon & again thanks for your videos and time today..
Yes, I have a bunch of videos on St. Pete, Clearwater... no Jax yet
Thank you very much for replying back to me today.. Also, I will look thru your videos and hopefully while watching it'll give me some ideas or details about my planning of relocating..Again, I thank you and always God Bless ya..
Looks beautiful. I plan to move about an hours drive from there in the next few years. Coming from Texas which I also love, but have always had moving to Florida in the back of my head. Robert do you just make a living off your vids? I was just wondering if you are always on the road.
Next time you go to Ybor, try Brogato's. Also, check out the Tampa historical museum.
I like it, He sings the intro, does the narration & probably edits the the clips...Good Production lol
+RedNiNo Fioz Yes, I'm a one man show
TravelingRobert Wonderful, I loved the video where you drove from Miami to New York. That was sweet man keep up the good work lol
Ok, that Columbian restaurant is a maze, wow.
+Zoed Vega It is huge
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Tampa, was my home for over 30 yewrs love it
Cool town
Hi! Wow, Im going to visit Tampa for a few days, do you think its worth visiting St. Petes and book a separate hotel/apt to check it more thorough or if I stay in Tampa I shall just stick to my Tampa booking? Thanks in advance :)
I use to always see the air streams ranch going to Orlando ever since I was a kid, well guess I can't anymore 🙁 anyways great video, 👌🏾
Thanks!
Tampa vs cities like Fort Lauderdale, Doral, what are 3 features that make Tampa or the Western side of South Florida a happier place to live?
I love tampa grew up in the Hyde park area such a great place
Hyde Park is beautiful
Hi! Wow, Im going to visit Tampa for a few days, do you think its worth visiting St. Petes and book a separate hotel/apt to check it more thorough or if I stay in Tampa I shall just stick to my Tampa booking? Thanks in advance :)
Thanks heaps for this. 👍
I would go to Tampa just for the trolley. I didn't know that Ybor City had such a strong connection of the Cuban Revolution of the 1800s. Do they have signs pointing out the points of guided tour? It's funny that I don't normally think of Tampa as a big tourist area, but I'm planning a Florida road trip some time in the future and Tampa might be on my list of things to do, along with parts of the Florida Trail, Cape Canaveral National Seashore, of course Miami.
I didn't see many signs pointing the historic points of interest, just a few. Enjoy your Florida trip
Have u ever been to la terasita? Authentic Cuban food. There is one in Tampa and also St.Petersburg, FL.
You're vids remind me of Sinatra's great song ...Nice and easy does it every time....
Thanks!
We enjoyed that, maybe next time you guys can stay at the Fort De Soto campground in St. Petersburg.
That's the plan. Thanks!
Thanks for the upload , it is strange that hookups are on the wrong side. it seems like they had the concrete put on the wrong side of the up the hookups... Has usual great job of editing..
I love Ballast Point park. Go there several times a month. How ever even though I live here I have to admit I never go to Ybor. Just do not feel safe there anymore.
I love Florida
da't right bro you know where the flow is!!!
Love the voiceover! Such a smooth voice!
+Lindziller Thanks!
I'm a new fan of yours Robert! Your commentary and footage is very interesting!!!
+MoDiva38 Thank you. I'm glad you like it
Hey you went to my University. The University of Tampa. Many memories of old Plant Hall. Ybor City is so cool. Did you check out Busch Gardens, Carollwood Mall, Davis Island etc? I love ol Tampa Bay.
+Scarpia9111 Yes very cool. Been to Busch Gardens before. Different trip. It was very cool.
My City has come so far as a native Ybor city any time of the year is beautiful. Stop by the Columbia Restaurant any location Enjoy .
Thumbs up!!
Ybor city is pretty sleepy during the day. It's a good place to go bar hopping at night.
You were so close to Portillos. 😊 Great video!
Didn't remember there was a Potillos in Brandon....next time for sure.
TravelingRobert You don't have to go to Brandon. There is one in Tampa. On Fowler ave right in front of University Mall.
Arlene Corsini that's in the hood though
Next week i'm going to Tampa! 😊
I the presence of giants you enjoy the shade !
+alsatful 😀
Great video, good job.
Thank you!
Narration voice is incredible!
Thanks!
Tampa looks rather Sleepy and boring. You commented that the streets in Ybor something felt off. I felt something a bit off about all of Tampa. Would you really recommend it as a place to visit or Miami Beach? Looking to take a trip soon. I haven't been to either yet.
+Angela Chanel Miami Beach is completely over the top. Of money is no object Miami Beach every day. You've got a pretty nice beach, and great nightlife. Very touristy though. Miami people don't usually go there anymore. Tampa, maybe I didn't visit the right places, maybe the time of the week or the year. I don't know. Restaurants were great but there was something "quiet" about it.
YES!! that is what I always hear about Tampa and St.Petersburg...I hear it's DEAD, that It is quiet. Downtown Tampa is so small as well. My sister went a year ago, for a job offer and she turned it down. She said it was over rated and the marketing and advertising was amazing but it is nothing like it makes it seem. I am starting a company Culinary and Events. I need over the top, so people will buy these services!! I think I will look to North Beach to rent for a while. I have a 10 year old daughter so I need a good school and active but not too crazy neighborhood.
You went in the middle of the day, no shit it's quiet. Ybor while historic is now a nightlife spot, emphasis on NIGHT. You also skipped SoHo, another great nightlife spot and that's slightly more college age.
+Angela Chanel I don't know where you heard that but it's wrong. Tampa's downtown is dead, although that will be changing in the coming years with Jeff Vinik's huge redevelopment project going on around the arena there. However Soho and Ybor are two seperate great nightlife spots in Tampa that are popping at night with numerous nightclub and bar options.
As for St Pete, they have an awesome downtown, even during the day. there is always people and stuff going on along Beach Drive and Central Avenue
Good afternoon. I am Douglas and I am from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. I always watch your videos and i love it. I have an aunt in Fort Lauderdale,FL. I love watch videos in Miami. I never was in U.S.A. but, i would like if u could to make a sightseen in Ft. Lauderdale. I would like to make a trip around south Florida. Fort Lauderdale has a beautiful beaches. Las Olas Boulevard.... If a day you will could come on in Brazil mainly in Rio you' ll like. We have the beautiful views. I'm sorry with my english is not perfect yet, but i am studying so much to improve. Thanks!
+Douglas Ribeiro I've been to Ft. Lauderdale many times. Maybe next time I'll make a video.
Enjoyed
I love Ybor
Nice video!
this restaurant is crazy big
Awesome Video Brother
+Drory Nadav Thanks!
Very nice.
Thank you
That Cuban coffee looked like hot water you forgot the cafe . What happened?
In Australia 50% of our cars and at least 90% of our utes ,buses.trucks and vans are diesel .We love diesel over here.
For some reason diesel has never been accepted in the USA. I love the torque of diesel vehicles
like just because of the intro music. haha.
is a nice video ;-)
HA! you had the paella y pael jejeje :)
i went to ybor city 18 times out of 12 years in Tampa
I'm 12 yrs btw
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ovet priced AND over rated ...if u traveled around u know this vid-ad is 90% push of bull-crappy miss information / fake misleading advertising.
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billy kobilca you think his video review was fake or filled with misinformation?
Love u guys! :)
+icollectstuffdude 😀
Well done.
just watched on new 4K TV looks great. my family always enjoys you channel. how do we donate
Hey, thanks! I have never actually seen my own stuff in 4K. I monitor in "3K" I guess
Round building nicknamed the beer can...
I will miss the Airstream ranch.
Me too