Thank-you Doc for all your fabulous videos and explanations, I genuinely enjoy watching them and learn so much. I feel bad for you as a Harley Tech though as HD seems to always be cutting off their nose to spite their face - and the poor techs are the front line people who have to explain it to the customers! The Motor Company has not been doing themselves any reputation or marketing favours as of late......😕
I just changed over after 17 years as a Diesel Mechanic to a Harley Tech and I have learned more by watching your videos than from anyone I've ran across. Very knowledgeable and I appreciate your willingness to educate and mentor. You make it very easy to take my experience as a Diesel Technician and apply it to Harley applications. Keep up the awesome videos!
Thanks for another great Vid Doc! Just learned how to do my first tune on a '22 Low Rider S with the stage 1. And only my third week in as a Jr Tech with Harley!
Thanks Doc. On my 12 FLHTK I use a TTS Mastertune. I have several copies of my stock (stage 1) and the tune that Mike Roland created for the Kuryakyn Prefect Storm. USB drive in the box with the tuner, a USB in my safe and copies on my Mac and the Windows Computer with the application. You can never have too many copies.. I'm thinking about switching to the Power Vision (hell DynoJet is only 10 miles from my house) and Fuel Moto exhaust. Love your content...
Great advise as when I put true duels an pipes on an an had it tuned they said well how do you know what I set your bike at.Well I'm not a young blood so I said You don't know what I backed up an he said now your playin hard ball
I have a 2019 FXLR I bought new in 2019. After several fitment adjustment, It is perfect for me. Just before the the 1K service, I installed a HD Stage 1 air clean and higher capacity S&S slip on mufflers and bought a HD Pro Street Tuner. So, at the 1k service, I had a HD dealer do a dyno tune. Fast forward to now; I have about 22k miles on my bike. I want to go to a Stage 2 but I don't want to lose the mapping from the 2019 dyno tune. How do I retain the mapping/tune currently on my bike for future reference and as the start point for my Stage 2 upgrade?
Was your bike Dyno tuned? If so the Tuner might have a copy in his lap top. The tuning module ( small black box) no longer stores the final tune and let’s you retrieve it. Your bike does store what base map you started with. This is the reason I made this video….Doc
What if i brought my 08 Dyna with the orange, i guess older flash tuner, to a dealership to determine the what the last tune was. Will i have the same challange? Will the "older" tuner still work with a modern computer or do i need to upgrade my Harley tuner? Keep posting great content!
I am sad to inform you HD no longer supports the Orange Box. They have removed the needed software from their web site. So many dealers won’t be able to use or retune with it……Doc
Thank you for this information. Software / tuneing on newer HDs are super sensible. Just for information what happened on my FLDE: After the battery broke down, the tuneing for stage 1 was lost also - why...??? maybe due to jump starting ??? The engine ran very rough. The HD dealership wasn't able to fix the problem. The tuner had to copy the programming (Mastertuner / TTS) again and after this everything ran smooth again.
This video was intended for those that are having their Harley-Davidson Dyno tuned. Opening the Software at home will have you start from a basic map,NOT what is in your bike…..Doc
Good afternoon from Spain and congratulations on your videos and professionalism. I have a query please if you could help me. I have two harley and a single scream eagle super pro switchboard, the problem that being twinned with one does not recognize the other. please know how to reset it. I apologize for the letter since I use the translator. A cordial greeting from Spain
What if it was tuned(Stage 1) with the screamin eagle tuner with an old exhaust(V&H slip-ons), Arlon Ness air cleaner, and I am adding a new 2-1 Cobra El Diablo. How would I go about using the tuner(same one in this video) in that case
Harley-Davidson does not offer a 2-1 performance exhaust. So there is no down load and go mapping. Bring your bike with tuner to your local dyno tuner hoping they can tweak an available map to your combination….Doc
DynoJet Power Vision w/auto-tune module and wide band sensors has the stage one on my 103 is fantastic. Thought about screaming eagle but just went another route.
Good video doc.. was wondering.. I had this tuner on my street glide and took it out. Dealer did the tuning… can I give it to a friend with a street glide and he be able to use it if hooked up to the computer first? Thanks for your time…..
I am not sure by your description. Once a tuner is used on a bike it is marred to that bike. Can not be used by another bike. Now tuners that fool the ECM like power commander can be switched….Doc
Hello Doc. Thank you very much. All your videos have a lot of interesting information. I'm looking for a device for only doing maintenance to my HD Street Bob 2021. I'm not able to find one compatible with my bike and I have to go to the dealer (for example ABS Brake bleeding). Twin Scan 4 only works with 2011-2018 Softail models, not 2021. Greetings from Spain.
Wow, Thanks for watching our videos in Spain. Your 2021 Street Bob has the latest Software and the aftermarket companies have not caught up. Keep in touch with Twin Scan. I am sure they are in development. BTW the 2018 model software might work....Doc
2020 Road King Standard, Oil Cooler Fan flashed by dealer, worked fine if unplugged speedometer will give a warning fan not connected which confirms its flashed.. Recently upgraded to stage 1 and flashed the bike at home with street tuner pro from harley and now my fan does not seem to be ENABLED, do I have to get it refreshed at the dealer for the fan ?
Hey Doc just wanna ask you about the valve lash clearance on my Harley Street 750, In the service manual it is given for the intake 0.15mm-0.20mm and for exhaust 0.20mm-0.25mm, so how much should i set my valve lash at Minimum or Maximum or In Middle ?
Mine is saved in my laptop but yeah you can download it to a portable. All my tunes are the staged maps then I always auto tune it a couple times from that while riding.
Hello Doc, I just purchased a 2006 Fat Boy with a 120R. The guy I purchased it from upgraded everything to this bike, from the intake all the way down to the exhaust. The bike came with an old school Super Tuner Pro (the orange one) but I can't find the software for it. I went to my local HD dealer and they said my tuner was obsolete. I inquired about getting a new tuner (like the one featured on this video) but they said it wouldn't work on the 120R. What are your thoughts?
Have you checked on HD.Net. It will ask you for the numbers on your tuning box. If that does not work, ask around for the CD that came with the original Orange box. I have not looked in a long time for a 120R map. But once you get the basic software you can download the current map from the bike….Doc
Awesome information Doc. Your thoughts on Screamin' Eage Smart Tune Pro Automatic Tuning Module? I want to bump up my 2022 Fatboy to Stage 1, Tabs Performance Zombie and modifying Air Cleaner to be External Breather w/catch can. I will ask my dealership since I've only had my Fatty for 1 month and don't want to hose up my warranty. What are your thoughts?
Definitely work with your dealer. They will have to check the latest SE Tuning Software to see if your model is in the Pro Street wide band software….Doc
Smart tune pro is still limited by the EPA and you will not get the full benefit of your motor using the screaming eagle product. The most dealerships won't mention it. Those that do are the honest ones
Hi Doc hope all is well. Really appreciate all the great information! I have maybe an odd question I have a 2016 SGS with the latest GTS with a WHIM. I only use the Harley Stamped Sena Headsets. When I hear Boom Audio Connected then plug my Phone in it will connect.... As soon as I start my bike it disconnects and I have to unplug and plug it back in and it will work. Also with Apple Car Play connected the Rider and Passenger Intercom do not work well at all. Can I not have both working at the same time? Thanks
Thanks for the video, I just bought a 2006 dyna 35 anniversary model and it didn’t come with a key fob but everything works and runs fine, did this model come with the fob or not ?
This might be a dumb question, but does that mean that the tuner is no longer "married" to the bike? I have a 2009 Rocker C with the Orange Tuner, 2014 Wide Glide with the Orange Tuner and a 2021 Street Glide with the black tuner. The orange tuner is a better tuner but no longer available
I had this tuner with a screaming eagle stage 2 cam. My bike ran like shit. The tune could never get right through the dealership. I had that crap removed and replaced with a woods xe cam and a power vision tuner. My bike has never run so good since the change over. I did not have a dealer do the rework.
A little harsh. It's not a dealer fault if it hands are tied with EPA and Harley. You did not say what year your bike is. Trying to get max power under warrenty is tough. Glad you found a combo that fit....Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Its a 2017 FLTRU. I agree about dealers following epa regs but then they should not be selling items that make the bike run worse then leaving it stock. Just my experience.
Hey Doc, I've got a question for you. What size is the left rear axle nut on the 2018+ Softails? I can't find any information about it, best I can measure is it's around 1 1/8th inches, but I want too be sure before I go buying expensive big sockets.
Hello Doc. if i'm understanding you correctly this is only a problem with the new tuners and new bikes. The screamin eagle tuners in my 2012 and 2016 are not affected by this. Does this mean that I could bring my bikes and tuners to get updated? Do I need to have them updated?
You are correct. The Orange box SE Tuner does not seem to be effected. any time you attatch the Tuner to your computer and the bike the software will tell you if the unit must be updated...Doc
I wish that was my only tuner problem, when I connect to the laptop and turn the ignition switch on the light comes on for a second on the Vci but goes off and the computer doesn’t sense the tuner. So I’m convinced that it’s the bike or tuner that’s messed up 😢
I am sorry to read about your issue. How old is your computer? HD Tuners won't work with anything older than window 7. I have heard there are a few issues with Windows 11 but can not confirm....Doc
I just had a local Harley Davidson dealer installed a stage two kit on my 2015 road glide 103 they called me and said the screaming eagle tuner is not tuning the bike that it doesn’t work for the 103 does anyone know why?
I see there are several calibration for a 2015 103. Basic stage 2, stage 2 with HD 585 cams. Now if you chose an aftermarket set of cams with a high flowing exhaust with air cleaner ( all aftermarket) then YES the SE Tuner won’t allow enough to tuning ability for your combo. Remember SE is for HD parts that meet EPA standards….Doc
Hey Doc...I have a problem....this is kinda of a long explanation, so I'm sorry....I have a 2018 Ultra limited Low...a few weeks ago I went out to go riding...bike wouldn't start...so I put a charger on it for about 3 hrs (12v)...started...went riding...when I came home I rode up on my grass (gravel driveway), and went to put the bike up on my sidewalk..it had rained a few day before...I had the front tire up, but the back slid sideways, and I layed the bike down...gently...no damage...when it went down I immediately hit the kill switch...about 1/2 hr later i got the bike back upright, and started it... went to ride the next day, and it wouldn't start...figured my battery was bad...since then I've ordered and installed a new Lithium battery, from Harley Davidson...the website said the battery had to be charged...so i charged the battery last night...said 100%....However, the bike won't start...info screen won't even come up...and all i get is my 4 way flashers on....H E L P!!!! PLEASE THANKS...Phil King philktn@outlook.com
Sounds like security is acting up. Yes after a bike falls over an owner must cycle the ignition switch without starting so the BCM knows the bike is safe. But you said the bike started. So with the 4 way coming on that indicated the security does not see the key fob.....Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson thanks Doc… that was the problem.. evidently one of my key fobs has a dead battery..got the 2nd one out and the bike started right up!!! Thanks for your help!!!
Strange you can't update the firmware while just connected to laptop like my tuner does. Meaning then it wouldn't delete the tune you've already flashed to your ECM. It's just a tuner module software/firmware update, not an ECM update if I'm understanding correctly.
Doc I don’t understand if I go with a better tuner and cam and have my Harley dealership do all the work why should that impact the warranty Everyone knows on the new M8 engine a better tuner and torque cam that engine comes to life. Those Dyno results don’t lie
Vivid Black I agree there are other options that will give you more. But how can you ask Harley-Davidson to warranty a part that they did not design or test to know the compatibility or longevity?.....Doc
I was thinking the same thing. I'm going to my Harley dealership Tomorrow but I'm a little worried they won't be completely honest with me about what I can now do to my Harley and still keep the warranty valid. What's your opinion? Can we safely put on after market tuner that's not a screaming eagle and not void our warranty?
All these questions are being hashed out. Only time will tell. My opinion is How can Harley-Davidson Warranty a combo YOU put together that they have not tested?....Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Its no different than the current rules that every other manufacturer in the auto and bike commutiy have to follow, HD just has to start following them.
I don't know how they can warranty a mishmash of aftermarket parts that everyone seems to put on. Maybe the drivetrain if it's stock. Gonna be a hot mess.
@@jeffreygraf3358 they can't/won't warranty other manufacturers parts unless the failure of their part damaged the after market part. If an aftermarket part damaged one of their parts they will not warranty either part. But they have to prove the aftermarket part damaged their part. It is either on the owner or aftermarket manufacuturer. People seem to think its complicated and it really is simple and nothing else has changed with probably the biggest thing being able to use better cam/cam chests and tuners than the epa restricted ones harley sells.
Sounds like harley just keeps over complicating the screamin eagle tuner. You spend that much on a tuner that is limited it should be able to do all of that.
Here is my question for you. Other Tuners sell you the unit and then have you down load the software for your model so there is room for programs. Would you be ok with this? ( of coarse you will need internet and computer)…Doc
You should be a little more careful while plugging in and unplugging tuners. That kind of carelessness is how bikes get scratched and beat up and it sucks for us who try and take great care not to do things such as this and get our bikes back from a service and low and behold damage appears but nobody did it……
Could you find out what the rubber cover is all about on the brake lines of the 2022 models as per this video? He has replies that I feel are hurting Harley as you will read. It is just a rubber or shrink tubing cover over the brake line connection and some reviewers are saying how terrible it is and will never buy a Harley and all kinds of stupid guesses as to why it is there. He has over 2500 views and counting with this nonsense. ruclips.net/video/2snZ7-K8jIw/видео.html
Thank-you Doc for all your fabulous videos and explanations, I genuinely enjoy watching them and learn so much. I feel bad for you as a Harley Tech though as HD seems to always be cutting off their nose to spite their face - and the poor techs are the front line people who have to explain it to the customers! The Motor Company has not been doing themselves any reputation or marketing favours as of late......😕
I just changed over after 17 years as a Diesel Mechanic to a Harley Tech and I have learned more by watching your videos than from anyone I've ran across. Very knowledgeable and I appreciate your willingness to educate and mentor. You make it very easy to take my experience as a Diesel Technician and apply it to Harley applications. Keep up the awesome videos!
Wow. Such kind words. Thank you and good luck on your new career....Doc
As always Doc, great and timely information.
Thanks again...Doc
Thanks for another great Vid Doc!
Just learned how to do my first tune on a '22 Low Rider S with the stage 1. And only my third week in as a Jr Tech with Harley!
That is great. I wish you a great future keeping the Eagle Flying...Doc
Thanks Doc. On my 12 FLHTK I use a TTS Mastertune. I have several copies of my stock (stage 1) and the tune that Mike Roland created for the Kuryakyn Prefect Storm. USB drive in the box with the tuner, a USB in my safe and copies on my Mac and the Windows Computer with the application. You can never have too many copies.. I'm thinking about switching to the Power Vision (hell DynoJet is only 10 miles from my house) and Fuel Moto exhaust. Love your content...
Thanks for sharing.....Doc
Thanks Doc.
That is crazy..everyone wants to keep their data..glad you told me
Great advise as when I put true duels an pipes on an an had it tuned they said well how do you know what I set your bike at.Well I'm not a young blood so I said You don't know what I backed up an he said now your playin hard ball
This is why I use a Power Vision Tuner Doc i am well past worrying about warranty issues
DynoJet Power Vision is accelerating in advancements in Tuning. Just wish their sampling was double for more accurate tuning decisions....Doc
That’s good to know thanks alot
Hi Doc, thanks for the information, great idea.
Thank you for watching George.....Doc
I have a 2019 FXLR I bought new in 2019. After several fitment adjustment, It is perfect for me. Just before the the 1K service, I installed a HD Stage 1 air clean and higher capacity S&S slip on mufflers and bought a HD Pro Street Tuner. So, at the 1k service, I had a HD dealer do a dyno tune. Fast forward to now; I have about 22k miles on my bike. I want to go to a Stage 2 but I don't want to lose the mapping from the 2019 dyno tune. How do I retain the mapping/tune currently on my bike for future reference and as the start point for my Stage 2 upgrade?
Was your bike Dyno tuned? If so the Tuner might have a copy in his lap top. The tuning module ( small black box) no longer stores the final tune and let’s you retrieve it. Your bike does store what base map you started with. This is the reason I made this video….Doc
Hey Doc, do you have a video out using the new mini Pro Street Tuner?
No. I am curious on the questions needed answering…..Doc
Where can i get that program . I want to be able to change stuff my self
At any dealer or on line with Harley….Doc
What if i brought my 08 Dyna with the orange, i guess older flash tuner, to a dealership to determine the what the last tune was. Will i have the same challange? Will the "older" tuner still work with a modern computer or do i need to upgrade my Harley tuner? Keep posting great content!
I am sad to inform you HD no longer supports the Orange Box. They have removed the needed software from their web site. So many dealers won’t be able to use or retune with it……Doc
Thank you for this information.
Software / tuneing on newer HDs are super sensible. Just for information what happened on my FLDE:
After the battery broke down, the tuneing for stage 1 was lost also - why...??? maybe due to jump starting ???
The engine ran very rough. The HD dealership wasn't able to fix the problem.
The tuner had to copy the programming (Mastertuner / TTS) again and after this everything ran smooth again.
Yes, violent voltage will do crazy things to hardware and software....Doc
Hi Doc, can you do it yourself or do you have to take it to the dealer?
This video was intended for those that are having their Harley-Davidson Dyno tuned. Opening the Software at home will have you start from a basic map,NOT what is in your bike…..Doc
Good afternoon from Spain and congratulations on your videos and professionalism. I have a query please if you could help me. I have two harley and a single scream eagle super pro switchboard, the problem that being twinned with one does not recognize the other. please know how to reset it. I apologize for the letter since I use the translator. A cordial greeting from Spain
The Pro Tuner is married to the first one. It will only work with that bike. Just like life when you marry. Your heart only works with that One…..Doc
Have a great weekend Doc!
You too!....Doc
I am new to thus Doc and late to the party. Is saving the tune as simple as copy and pasting to the thumb drive?
Yes
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson thank you for your response sir. Much appreciated
What if it was tuned(Stage 1) with the screamin eagle tuner with an old exhaust(V&H slip-ons), Arlon Ness air cleaner, and I am adding a new 2-1 Cobra El Diablo. How would I go about using the tuner(same one in this video) in that case
Harley-Davidson does not offer a 2-1 performance exhaust. So there is no down load and go mapping. Bring your bike with tuner to your local dyno tuner hoping they can tweak an available map to your combination….Doc
Thank you Doc, any specific size thumb drive size ? 32GB 128GB?
32 should be fine….Doc
DynoJet Power Vision w/auto-tune module and wide band sensors has the stage one on my 103 is fantastic. Thought about screaming eagle but just went another route.
That is what I love about owning a Harley-Davidson…it is Your Choice…Doc
Made probably the best choice with performance in mind.
I refused to use a screaming eagle tuner..I used a maximum tuner..thumb drive..
Why would Harley do this? don't they realize people will go to aftermarkets to get a tuner then to deal with added headaches....thank you for the info
The Software needed for 2022 models with RDRS, ABS and EPA just got too much for their current knowledge. (others have been able).....Doc
Doc,can you not buy a tuner and take it to a Dino tuner! And just so that! With our buying a thner
First talk with the Tuner you want to dyno tune. Not all Tuners are family with ALL tuning devices or have the software….Doc
how do you load the software onto laptop? It doesnt seem to accept the sn of the VCI do you know if this software works with Windows 11?
Have you gone on their website? You are always welcome to call customer service so they can walk you through it…Doc
Good video doc.. was wondering.. I had this tuner on my street glide and took it out. Dealer did the tuning… can I give it to a friend with a street glide and he be able to use it if hooked up to the computer first? Thanks for your time…..
I am not sure by your description. Once a tuner is used on a bike it is marred to that bike. Can not be used by another bike. Now tuners that fool the ECM like power commander can be switched….Doc
Hello Doc. Thank you very much. All your videos have a lot of interesting information. I'm looking for a device for only doing maintenance to my HD Street Bob 2021. I'm not able to find one compatible with my bike and I have to go to the dealer (for example ABS Brake bleeding). Twin Scan 4 only works with 2011-2018 Softail models, not 2021. Greetings from Spain.
Wow, Thanks for watching our videos in Spain. Your 2021 Street Bob has the latest Software and the aftermarket companies have not caught up. Keep in touch with Twin Scan. I am sure they are in development. BTW the 2018 model software might work....Doc
2020 Road King Standard, Oil Cooler Fan flashed by dealer, worked fine if unplugged speedometer will give a warning fan not connected which confirms its flashed.. Recently upgraded to stage 1 and flashed the bike at home with street tuner pro from harley and now my fan does not seem to be ENABLED, do I have to get it refreshed at the dealer for the fan ?
The tuning with S.E. tuner should not effect the fan operation. Is it possible your bike is running cooler with the addition of more fuel? …Doc
Are those tuners limited to one bike? Can I use it to tune multiple bikes?
One bike only…..Doc
Powervision can buy a license for each bike. Can tune multiple bikes on one device. And is not capped by the EPA.
@@ihatesjws669 you have a link to it?
Iv owned my last harley if I get another it will be a 90s model
Hey Doc just wanna ask you about the valve lash clearance on my Harley Street 750, In the service manual it is given for the intake 0.15mm-0.20mm and for exhaust 0.20mm-0.25mm, so how much should i set my valve lash at Minimum or Maximum or In Middle ?
Intake Minimum and exhaust Middle....Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Thanks Doc 👍🏻
Mine is saved in my laptop but yeah you can download it to a portable. All my tunes are the staged maps then I always auto tune it a couple times from that while riding.
How do you download it to your laptop? Does it ask you during the setup
This won't help HD sales or image will it ?
It's not helping....Doc
My point exactly.
I’ve heard that when it does the update, the SE software on the computer will download the map file before it wipes the VCI, is that true??
Doc, what if tyou decline to update the VCI initially - can the current tune be saved to a USB drive from the software?
Thx for awesome videos.
I believe so out of the computer you have been tuning with not the VCI….Doc
Hello Doc, I just purchased a 2006 Fat Boy with a 120R. The guy I purchased it from upgraded everything to this bike, from the intake all the way down to the exhaust. The bike came with an old school Super Tuner Pro (the orange one) but I can't find the software for it. I went to my local HD dealer and they said my tuner was obsolete. I inquired about getting a new tuner (like the one featured on this video) but they said it wouldn't work on the 120R. What are your thoughts?
Have you checked on HD.Net. It will ask you for the numbers on your tuning box. If that does not work, ask around for the CD that came with the original Orange box. I have not looked in a long time for a 120R map. But once you get the basic software you can download the current map from the bike….Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Thanks Doc. I'll check it out!
As always doc u r very informative, but that tuner seems so complicated. So i got me a vance and hines. Fuel pac
Glad you found a tuner you can work...Doc
Awesome information Doc. Your thoughts on Screamin' Eage Smart Tune Pro Automatic Tuning Module? I want to bump up my 2022 Fatboy to Stage 1, Tabs Performance Zombie and modifying Air Cleaner to be External Breather w/catch can. I will ask my dealership since I've only had my Fatty for 1 month and don't want to hose up my warranty. What are your thoughts?
Definitely work with your dealer. They will have to check the latest SE Tuning Software to see if your model is in the Pro Street wide band software….Doc
Smart tune pro is still limited by the EPA and you will not get the full benefit of your motor using the screaming eagle product. The most dealerships won't mention it. Those that do are the honest ones
Hi Doc hope all is well. Really appreciate all the great information! I have maybe an odd question I have a 2016 SGS with the latest GTS with a WHIM. I only use the Harley Stamped Sena Headsets.
When I hear Boom Audio Connected then plug my Phone in it will connect.... As soon as I start my bike it disconnects and I have to unplug and plug it back in and it will work. Also with Apple Car Play connected the Rider and Passenger Intercom do not work well at all. Can I not have both working at the same time? Thanks
You are correct. Not at the same time. The disconnect happens because a few systems are turned off when starter is applied....Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson thanks 👍
So to clarify if the tune is in my SE tuner and it works fine( it dose). No need to update my tuner, which wipes it?
YES you are fine.....Doc
Thanks for the video, I just bought a 2006 dyna 35 anniversary model and it didn’t come with a key fob but everything works and runs fine, did this model come with the fob or not ?
Was optional.....Doc
Hmm. 2010 Electra glide ultra classic???😁
Your probably using the Orange SE Tuner and this update does not effect it....So Far.....Doc
This might be a dumb question, but does that mean that the tuner is no longer "married" to the bike?
I have a 2009 Rocker C with the Orange Tuner, 2014 Wide Glide with the Orange Tuner and a 2021 Street Glide with the black tuner.
The orange tuner is a better tuner but no longer available
At this time the Tuner is still married to a bike. I can tell you the Orange Tuner still holds the Tune....Doc
I had this tuner with a screaming eagle stage 2 cam. My bike ran like shit. The tune could never get right through the dealership. I had that crap removed and replaced with a woods xe cam and a power vision tuner. My bike has never run so good since the change over. I did not have a dealer do the rework.
A little harsh. It's not a dealer fault if it hands are tied with EPA and Harley. You did not say what year your bike is. Trying to get max power under warrenty is tough. Glad you found a combo that fit....Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Its a 2017 FLTRU.
I agree about dealers following epa regs but then they should not be selling items that make the bike run worse then leaving it stock.
Just my experience.
Hey Doc, I've got a question for you. What size is the left rear axle nut on the 2018+ Softails? I can't find any information about it, best I can measure is it's around 1 1/8th inches, but I want too be sure before I go buying expensive big sockets.
1 1/8....Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Hey thanks a million Doc 👍
Love your videos Doc.
Thank you for watching....Doc
Hello Doc. if i'm understanding you correctly this is only a problem with the new tuners and new bikes. The screamin eagle tuners in my 2012 and 2016 are not affected by this. Does this mean that I could bring my bikes and tuners to get updated? Do I need to have them updated?
You are correct. The Orange box SE Tuner does not seem to be effected. any time you attatch the Tuner to your computer and the bike the software will tell you if the unit must be updated...Doc
I wish that was my only tuner problem, when I connect to the laptop and turn the ignition switch on the light comes on for a second on the Vci but goes off and the computer doesn’t sense the tuner. So I’m convinced that it’s the bike or tuner that’s messed up 😢
I am sorry to read about your issue. How old is your computer? HD Tuners won't work with anything older than window 7. I have heard there are a few issues with Windows 11 but can not confirm....Doc
I just had a local Harley Davidson dealer installed a stage two kit on my 2015 road glide 103 they called me and said the screaming eagle tuner is not tuning the bike that it doesn’t work for the 103 does anyone know why?
I see there are several calibration for a 2015 103. Basic stage 2, stage 2 with HD 585 cams. Now if you chose an aftermarket set of cams with a high flowing exhaust with air cleaner ( all aftermarket) then YES the SE Tuner won’t allow enough to tuning ability for your combo. Remember SE is for HD parts that meet EPA standards….Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Thank you for your feedback much appreciated
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Everything is screamin eagle except the slip on
I like and want to use this tune ut having it run lean to me is a waste of the money to use it
And your suggestion with your money for a bike under warranty?…..Doc
Doc will the update effect 2020 models not saving the tune
If you have this black box SE Tuner, YES....Doc
One of the reasons I did not go with a screaming eagle tuner
It is a game changer.....Doc
i got a brand new screaming eagle tuner for sale only used once
Humor is good....Doc
what about the SE Super Tuner Pro?
I was thinking the same, 2 of my 3 harley's were tuned using the super tuner pro. does this mean that the tenders are no longer "married" to the bike?
Bikes and Tuners are always married. Just no long term memory. bikes will continue to run fine......Doc
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Hey Doc...I have a problem....this is kinda of a long explanation, so I'm sorry....I have a 2018 Ultra limited Low...a few weeks ago I went out to go riding...bike wouldn't start...so I put a charger on it for about 3 hrs (12v)...started...went riding...when I came home I rode up on my grass (gravel driveway), and went to put the bike up on my sidewalk..it had rained a few day before...I had the front tire up, but the back slid sideways, and I layed the bike down...gently...no damage...when it went down I immediately hit the kill switch...about 1/2 hr later i got the bike back upright, and started it...
went to ride the next day, and it wouldn't start...figured my battery was bad...since then I've ordered and installed a new Lithium battery, from Harley Davidson...the website said the battery had to be charged...so i charged the battery last night...said 100%....However, the bike won't start...info screen won't even come up...and all i get is my 4 way flashers on....H E L P!!!! PLEASE
THANKS...Phil King philktn@outlook.com
Sounds like security is acting up. Yes after a bike falls over an owner must cycle the ignition switch without starting so the BCM knows the bike is safe. But you said the bike started. So with the 4 way coming on that indicated the security does not see the key fob.....Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson thanks Doc… that was the problem.. evidently one of my key fobs has a dead battery..got the 2nd one out and the bike started right up!!! Thanks for your help!!!
Strange you can't update the firmware while just connected to laptop like my tuner does. Meaning then it wouldn't delete the tune you've already flashed to your ECM. It's just a tuner module software/firmware update, not an ECM update if I'm understanding correctly.
The SE Tuner gets it power from the bike. Most Tuners are this way. DynoJet use to sell a 9volt battery adapter to power up units on the bench. ...Doc
Gr8 información thanks!
Thank you Kyle....Doc
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Doc I don’t understand if I go with a better tuner and cam and have my Harley dealership do all the work why should that impact the warranty Everyone knows on the new M8 engine a better tuner and torque cam that engine comes to life. Those Dyno results don’t lie
Vivid Black I agree there are other options that will give you more. But how can you ask Harley-Davidson to warranty a part that they did not design or test to know the compatibility or longevity?.....Doc
This all might change with the FTC ruling.
I was thinking the same thing. I'm going to my Harley dealership Tomorrow but I'm a little worried they won't be completely honest with me about what I can now do to my Harley and still keep the warranty valid. What's your opinion? Can we safely put on after market tuner that's not a screaming eagle and not void our warranty?
All these questions are being hashed out. Only time will tell. My opinion is How can Harley-Davidson Warranty a combo YOU put together that they have not tested?....Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Its no different than the current rules that every other manufacturer in the auto and bike commutiy have to follow, HD just has to start following them.
I don't know how they can warranty a mishmash of aftermarket parts that everyone seems to put on. Maybe the drivetrain if it's stock. Gonna be a hot mess.
@@jeffreygraf3358 they can't/won't warranty other manufacturers parts unless the failure of their part damaged the after market part.
If an aftermarket part damaged one of their parts they will not warranty either part. But they have to prove the aftermarket part damaged their part. It is either on the owner or aftermarket manufacuturer.
People seem to think its complicated and it really is simple and nothing else has changed with probably the biggest thing being able to use better cam/cam chests and tuners than the epa restricted ones harley sells.
Did I miss how to download to the USB drive?
No....Doc
My app update keeps failing...
It’s a software clitch. HD is trying to fix.
HD 2 steps forward/ then 9 steps backwards! 🙄
It a dance for sure....Doc
Sounds like harley just keeps over complicating the screamin eagle tuner. You spend that much on a tuner that is limited it should be able to do all of that.
Here is my question for you. Other Tuners sell you the unit and then have you down load the software for your model so there is room for programs. Would you be ok with this? ( of coarse you will need internet and computer)…Doc
You should be a little more careful while plugging in and unplugging tuners. That kind of carelessness is how bikes get scratched and beat up and it sucks for us who try and take great care not to do things such as this and get our bikes back from a service and low and behold damage appears but nobody did it……
Did you have a bad experience and felt you needed to be heard on our videos?….Doc
Could you find out what the rubber cover is all about on the brake lines of the 2022 models as per this video? He has replies that I feel are hurting Harley as you will read. It is just a rubber or shrink tubing cover over the brake line connection and some reviewers are saying how terrible it is and will never buy a Harley and all kinds of stupid guesses as to why it is there. He has over 2500 views and counting with this nonsense.
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