DOC HARLEY: WHAT TUNER DO YOU NEED?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Doc Harley from the Service Clinic at Low Country Harley-Davidson to help you with the health of your motorcycle! This week he talks about tuners- what questions to ask yourself and the pros/cons of different ones.
We know there are other tuners out there. These are the tuners Doc has worked with and had available for filming. Like the video says - make sure you talk with your tuner/mechanic about what they are familiar with and able to work with before buying a tuner.
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Doc Harley is a motorcycle technician at Low Country Harley-Davidson with over thirty years working on motorcycles. Over the years at the dealership he has worked on Harley-Davidson, Buell, and Triumph motorcycles with a few other brands here and there from trade-ins. There are thousands of how-to videos out on RUclips and other websites across the world. Doc’s goal is to help solve problems that people run into when using their service manual, share insights only found as a certified Harley® technician, and some of the tips he’s picked up over the years.
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I've been a Harley dealership tech for 25 years. I keep watching these videos waiting for Doc to say something stupid or incorrect. I'm still waiting.....
@@jif4639 . Yes...it will work on stage 1234
Maybe you can answer this for me regarding a tuner. I have an 2009 Road King with Vance and Hines power duals, hi-output and screaming eagle high flow air intake. Is was tuned by Harley and ran fine. Now I just installed an S&S 551 cams, pushrods, lifters, oil pump with cam support plate. I tuned it with the V&H Fuelpack with their recommended mapping but is running rich on the rear cylinder and smoked out my left pipe. What should I do? Thank you in advance.
@@falconator3419 with all of the stuff done I’d get it dyno tuned
@@jif4639 dynojet powervision is the best tuner hands down
He explains stuff really well.
I bought a 2020 and had a stage 4 kit put in before I got it, with the Harley tuner. The check engine light was constantly coming on. The dealership service department could not figure out what to do, they told me the Harley tuner wasn’t designed for tuning for max power and they recommended I take it to a Dyno tuner. The Dyno tuner told me it was a waste of money to try and tune with the new Harley tuner. So basically Harley took money for an upgrade and tuner that they don’t allow you to use full power. If you go to a tuner that allows you to use full power they flag my warranty. A $5000 “gotcha”from HD. Thanks for the explanation of how they work, very informative.
Absolutely the best explanation of tuners I have heard. Thank you, Doc.
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Doc, that was the most informative explanation of tuners I've seen. You definitely have a knack for putting it in layman terms. Many thanks for your great videos. Always learn something watching them.
Yeah, he does a good job with these videos.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. They have to show you proof that what you put on the bike is what caused the problem before they can deny the warranty and your also allowed to have your certified motorcycle mechanic look at it to not just Harley and also doc I do love watching you videos
Your honesty and integrity is above anyone else I've seen.
We appreciate your support….Doc
Just ordered a new exhaust. Good to know that I don't need a tune because of the sensors ! Thanks Doc !!
No, you don't NEED to tune, but even a stock bike will benefit from a tune by a tech that knows what they are doing.
Very well explained! Thanks a lot! My 04 Heritage had 2 mufflers installed, that werent ment for this bike, as it didn't use the interference pipe. So it was running terrible. I got stock us mufflers without the catalyst. Bike ran, as it should! Now as i sold it and got a honda fury, which the previous owner had the Powercommander V pfofessionalky installed and which has been tuned on a dyno by a professinal tuner, this bike runs soft and smooth with very little fuel consumption. I got all the documents and diagrams. As I have no clue about all this stuff, i highly recommend, not to tinker like a Teenager on a moped, but go to a professional tuner and let them do the work!
2010 Superglide with a stage one only. I used a Fuel Pack with the Android App. It was super easy and took literally 4 minutes. It took a typically crappy running Harley and made it run smooth, and stronger.
This Video should be posted on EVERY motorcycle / social media forum. It's a simple but very accurate description of what to do, what to use & what not to do or use.
Excellent advice! After initially changing to mild slip ons and the HD torque cam with the HD tuner I wasn't happy with the results. I did a lot of internet research and thought Thundermax might be the right solution. I ended up going to a local shop and he recommended the TTS tuner and explained why. I changed my setup to a D&D 2-1 pipe, Redshift 472 cam, bigger air cleaner, S&S manifold, etc and went with the recommended TTS tuner. The end result was a bike that runs great and suits my riding style. My takeaway was exactly what was suggested in this video, if you're changing your tune, talk to the person who will be doing the work, they know what works for them.
Thank you for your testimony…..Doc
1st time watching g a video on tuners & especially THIS channel. If I was anywhere close to where he is located, I'd make the trip. He just comes off as THE master. The one you'd want to listen to, so you get it right. Respect!
Wow, thanks!….Doc
This is a FANTASTIC video and very cut and dry!!!!!
I've had a ThunderMaxx on 2 of my Harley's and it never let me down. That's the only tunner I'll ever use. No matter you want to do with your bike that tunner can and will handle it....💯😎
As everyone on here says, the BEST comparison of all these tuners anywhere. Thank you.
Wow! Finally a good overview of tuning. Your not trying to sell a product, just clear information. Now it's up to us on what level of tune fits pocketbook and riding style ..... thanks Doc.
This is by FAR the best HD ECM/ECU tuner vid on RUclips. Thank you for sharing your knowledge sir!💯🏍🔥🦾
Wow, thanks!....Doc
Great video Doc. Thank you. All this makes carburetors look easy.
Hey Doc, I much appreciate your expertise and how you explain everything. I've got a 2021 Fat Bob 114 with Stage 2. I put a SP Concepts Big Bore 4.5 2 into 1 exhaust, K&N Intake and the Zipper 468 cam upgrade. I put the Thunder Max tuner into it and you answered a couple of questions I had. I''ll keep watching your videos and thanks.
Thank you for your time and support. Your build looks like a lot of fun to ride….Doc
POWERVISION FROM FUELMOTO USA...BEST IN THE BUSINESS.....30,000 miles on my 2010 107 build 116/126 not 1 hiccup !!!!
ThunderMax 😎 it's on a whole different level
@@DeuceRollinChainSmokin in which way? I have a 05 fxdi pre o2 system and debating between both systems.
@@LiTLflor self learning and it tunes itself with wide band o2 sensors. You can tune out literally anything about the bike. It literally teaches itself how you ride and what fuel/air suits you best. Powervision is a close 2nd but it's limited in some areas. ThunderMax is a better option if you are BUILDING a monster. Cams, intake and exhaust get the PV. Doing compression heads and the full works get the TM.
This should be shown to future teachers. Amazing way to explain. Captivating, motivating. This shows again: you need to know what you’re talking about to make it understandable to others.
Bee thank you...Doc
I really enjoy hearing and seeing their guys with the exotic bikes. No doubt they are getting a lot out of their machines.
I believe the design team contemplated most of what a bike could be subjected to by us consumers and planned accordingly. Here in Arizona, a guy could have a long walk if he needed help. Likewise, I have never asked a gunsmith to “improve” a firearm. Sometimes it is good to have dependability as a performance goal.
Wow what a breath of fresh air. I could listen to this guy all day. What a Pro. 👌🏼
Wow, thanks!...Doc
Doc , Thanks for breaking it down for me and the rest of us weekend warriors! Lol
I’ve tried all these products and nothing come close to TTS. Steve doesn’t get enough credit, these old Harley head just like you doc are gems. I’m sure y’all speak for hrs on HD tunning. I’m blessed to live in Compton.
I agree with your choice. No warrenty..No problem.....best results...Doc
You are an absolutely fantastic doctor. Very well explained. I ride 2019 slim in London England 🏴 now in know what to choose without voiding my warranty. Cheers
This is the best and simplest explanation of EFI and aftermarket tuners i have seen. Thanx, Triumph and Guzzi owner (Ex Harley owner..)
By far the best tuner I use us the power vision 💪
Thank you so much for this great video. Just bought a 2020 Low Rider S and put Vance & Hines mufflers on it. So glad to hear I don't need a tune!
Great advice , Doc , thanks . I don’t think I’m going to mess with mine for now . I don’t feel ready to open a can of worms .
this guy exudes trust and honesty.
Jack you are too kind, Thank you....Doc
Great information delivered in a no nonsense easy to understand format. Wish I had a local dealership that believed in this approach.
That's what I am up against
I bought a super tuner for my 2008 Fatboy 12 years ago and had the local HD shop Dyno with a 211 cam. 60k miles later and it still runs great. Best money I spent .
Thanks for sharing....Doc
For the DYI person, the DynoJet Powervision, ordered from Fuel Moto is the best way to go. They have many more bike, air cleaner/exhaust combo specific canned maps than the FP3. I ran the FP3 on my last two bikes & it's a great product. But not as robust as the Powervision & Fuel Moto gives an extra year of warranty & support is terrific. Just my opinion & experience.
I ran a Power Commander and FP3 on my FXDB and eventually went for the Powervision. When I bought my FXDLS the previous owner provided a TTS with it but still I cut the bs and went right for the Powervision this time like you said from FuelMoto. The unlimited map support alone is worth the money. PV is my goto recommendation for anybody regardless of how minimal they plan on going with their upgrades.
Agreed! PV on my FXLRS and honestly a litt;e annoyed they didn't mention it on this video especially considering it's neck and neck with the FP3
Excellent video presented by an amiable knowledgeable, gifted teacher and communicator.
Wow, thank you!…..Doc
Power vision with target tune. Went from 103 to FM 107 with level b heads to a s&s 124 and never had an issue or had to see a dyno. Simply get a base map and tune.
Thanks Doc , You are a really big help for us green horns. Thank you!
Great overview of tuners. I had read the ThunderMax tuner isn’t compatible with the RDRS system. I’d love to hear how these tuning companies will deal with the RDRS system in Harley’s.
Thank you so much for the advice to reach out to the right shop to find out what tuner to invest in! Converted a 2014 Iron 883 to 1200 with the Screamin Eagle kit using the FP3 tuner. Bike didn’t run right. Called up the shop that did the work and they recommended the technoresearch maximus tuner 6 pin. After the proper tune, a beast was unleashed! This man is smart!
Thank you for taking time to watch our videos and leave this positive comment....Doc
I went with the ThunderMax....the cost of the TTS system plus to get the local dyno expert to tune my bike was very close to the cost of the ThunderMax. I did my research and installed it myself. No dyno required, and it is always searching for the correct fuel/air mixture for whatever conditions or altitude I'm at. From riding Beartooth Highway (14,000 ft) or on the coast it is in tune as opposed to the TTS where it "was in tune" the day you had it installed.
Thanks for this, Doc! Just ordered a Thundermax for my 22 Road Glide ST
Thanks Doc. Great information as always. Stock works just fine for me. Plus a little extra chrome here and there.
Not here to argue...I think Doc does a great job. I had a fi2000 EFI controller on my 08 FLHRC for +5 years and never had any issues. It increased performance but I wouldn't do it again. It wasn't a mistake...I just wouldn't do it again.
Thanks for sharing your experience...Doc
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (P.L. 93-637) is a United States federal law that governs warranties on consumer products. The Act also makes it illegal for companies to void a warranty or deny coverage under the warranty solely because an aftermarket or recycled part was used. An aftermarket part is defined as a part manufactured by a company other than the original vehicle manufacturer or original equipment manufacturer (OEM)
Quoted several times but irrelevant in real life…..Doc
Doc, I am still under warranty so I went with the SE Pro-Tuner. I did a stage I with the SE air intake, and Rinehart slip-ons. I loaded the generic Stage I, then used to VCI on a test ride, put the results back through the laptop software, its made some changes, I put it back to the bike, and it is running fantastic now, in fact I am shocked how well it is running. Also the V&H is tempting but only good for Stage I no tunes for Stage II.
Good news on your successful tuning…Doc
Another great video Doc! I feel that the Fuelpak is the way to go for 90% of DIY riders.
Agreed.
I love mine on my 16 SGS.
It's great for the person like me that cant afford to have all the upgrades done at once. A little here ,tweak, a little there ,tweak...
Dynojet power vision much more features....
BrewCityRider FuelPack sucks. Seen it burn up too many cylinders
@@@richardedwin5980 any one of them will do that when ya dont know how to use them properly.
gaknskk this is true but I've seen more problems on bikes using the FuelPack than I have using say TTS, PowerVision etc
The Doc is the best information on you tube
Thanks Doc …
Doc Harley is THE MAN!! GREAT VIDEOS 👍
After many years of listening to different ppl talk about tuners and what does what,this short video has been the most informative one to date
thanks for the very useful short video Doc... ive just subscribed to your channel look forward to many more helpful hints and tips 👍
Thank you Michael….Doc
This is why I like CV Carbs, less headaches!
Less power too
I agree, Doc is informative and well spoken. Easy to understand. There is also this-.. "Magnusson-Moss Act". Then there is the EPA.
I remember the days when you could spend 500 bucks on a set of pipes an air cleaner and some jets, i miss carburetors
Congratulations Doc and Low Country Harley Davidson for your best video yet. The tuner issue is to me, the most controversial issue in our hobby. I learned today that with slipons ONLY, you do not need a tuner. Thank you Doc. I will be on April in your area and I hope I can find you to shake your hand.
Please, no shaking hands.
Good video. I have had the Harley tuner and the FP3 but in my experience, the best so far has been the Power Vision with a Fuel Moto map. Buyers be warned that the FP3 is fine for stage 1 but it has a very difficult time with stage 2 or higher...
The Doc is a very good teacher. Explains well and knows his stuff. Thanks
It's scripted direct from Milwaukee
I've had Power Commanders on HD's for years with no problem. I've never seen any of the issues with it you have noted. My latest build I used a TTS and yep, it is a much better tuner than the Power Commander, but like I said, never had a problem with the Power Commander and I've used it on 3 bikes so far without issues.
He is selling the Harley product. In other words he is full of the ---------.
@@semperfipar1299 what part of this video was he selling the Harley products? The only part I saw was if your still under warranty !!
So correct me if I am incorrect here but basically what the doc stating that harley davidson ecm will shut down after year if PCV was installed fooling ecm?
i had popping from a dealer after stage 1 aircleaner and screaming eagle mufflers touring ones not slashcut so i installed a powercommander 3 and dynaport had the map for me exact pipes downloaded it installed it and rode all day 1 pop been 6 years still runs great original sparkplugs too golden brown
Doc, thanks for the good teaching.
You didn't mention the option of using PowerVision to flash a tune to the ECM. The autotune feature is fantastic. My local Harley dealer used a PowerVision along with a dyno to tune my bike and it worked great. I've used PowerVision on two Harleys so far and I'm very pleased. Once the ECM is flashed, you take the unit off and don't have to use it again unless you change something, like a cam.
Which power vision? Do they still sell the powervision?
Powervision is the best out there. Can only be beat by a tuner and his dyno.
yeah i was kinda surprised he didnt talk about PV.. arguably in the top 2 tuners on the market
Yup.. im a power vision guy..
Thundermax is the best by far.
Power Vision beat out my experienced dealership dyno guy using a Harley Race Tuner. Thanks Fuel Moto.
Doc, you make everything so simple and clear, thanks allot
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment...Doc
Fuel pak 3 for me love it best part if you need assistance the vendor is only. Phone call away send them the map they tweak it you use it and enjoy the results.
yes .. they are great.. and like you said.. you can download map to your phone and since its a smart phone you can send them the map and info on bike . they tweak it, send it back and you can then flash your ECM with the tweaked map.. also it can hold a few Maps in memory..
The bad part is that is not stable. The values change to previous ones in a random base, and populate large tables is a very uncomfortable thing. Both is from my personal experience with the FP3 after I do a little biggest change in my bike. Now I need to purchase a PV-1 and all is more easy and works as expected to works
FP3 is a good product, but V&H tech support is terrible.
sounds good for d.i.y noob like me
My California dealer fully honored my extended warranty with the V&H FuelPak, after a major electronics failure in my 2016 FXDB. I asked if the tuner will change the warranty, they said, emphatically, no. Nice thing about the Y&H, is you can switch back to the factory ECM tune, at will.
Hey Doc thanks for the information it was great learned a little bit more about the tuners
Honest and simple to understand explanation Doc.
Outstanding review of how tuners work!
My Roadglide just hit 10 years. I’m going Thundermax!!
This could be a good move for you. read the instructions and remember to accept the modifications the ThunderMax makes....Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson okay! Thanks Doc!
On my 04 ultra I use the vision love it
This is the year and bike I have, it works good you say?
Doc, your knowledge doesn't cease to amaze me. Thank you
Thank you Doc, it’s about time someone explained these tuners in a way most of us can understand. Is it true that after my bike is Dyno Tuned there is no need to touch anymore unless I get more work done to the motor. Rob in Australia
Doc , I have a 2013 FXDF 103 and a orange screamin eagle super tuner pro , screamin eagle air cleaner , Vance and Hines pipes and I think my idle is much to high , not happy the local tuner wont's $ 550 to tune it . I don't think so , my Evo is much easier , Quick Silver cab , points , 2 in to one S/ Steel pipes set and forget ( in the photo ) The Fat Bob is my first modern Harley and I'm not use to it yet . I sound like I'm complaining mybe I am , I was so excited when I bought it , I took the 1985 Evo out today and it said up yours and Died , flat battery and I live out in the country and yes I know . love your channel all the best from Down under
Great video! I like to hear more about the 4.5 screamingeagle street canons please!
Vance Burks I have some street cannons on my 2019 CV O Rd. guide the street cannons are nice mufflers straight through nice exhaust sound but not very loud the good mufflers but if you want louder you may Want to go in a different direction
Personally they're sub-standard at best. I "HAD" them in a 18 RGS with a Screamin Eagle Stage 3 build with FuelMoto Jackpot headers. Sound wise...I thought they sucked. Performance wise...eh. I used them plus the Pro Street tuner to stay in warranty and I got 114.3ft lb torque and 105hp. I just came out of factory warranty and installed the Vance & Hines Torquer 450 muffler and Zippers Redshift 468 cam and had it tuned using PowerVision. My numbers changed big time. I'm now pulling 134.97 lbs torque and 118hp. The Street Cannons are a Ford Pinto vs the V&H which are a Ford Mustang GT.
Awesome Video..I stop in Low Country whenever on vacation in Folly. Great people and this guys is a direct reflection of temperament and professionalism I have found there. Even rented a few bikes to tool around on back in the day from them. Great job Doc!
Dingus ✌️
Thanks for the feedback...Doc
I removed my Cat~Converter, put on V&H Twin Slash slip-ons, stage #1 & a PC~5 and it starts great & has for 6 years now! You have some good info, but it is not always correct!
How much do you ride? That’s probably why you haven’t had a issue 7 years and only ride it 15 times ? Just saying
@@TwanNikaLs LMAO, unlike you I am not a bar hopper! I ride on an average of 13,500 miles a year! LMAO, go get on your moped!
Yea I’ll go get on my paid off 2019 road glide moped lol
@@TwanNikaLs Keep dreaming Twinkie!
Yea o.k I don’t have to dream about getting money home boy I’m 100 percent the truth
this information is right on time for me. Thinking of adding Vance and Hines full exhaust system. I still do research on this subject. Thank you for sharing providing this valuable information as you do in all of your videos.
I have a 2011 Ultra Classic with no changes and it runs perfectly. What can I say?
If it's not broken, doesn't need fixing.
Thanks Doc, your explanations are for everyone from veterans to some newer HD riders. Thank you
We try our best and appreciate your feedback...Doc
Always informative and much appreciated. Thanks again doc.
Wish i was back in Charleston, Low Country is the Best Shop i've been to and after i left i managed a few up here and i think i did well, but now that i'm retired, not happy with the Dealer group dealers
Excellent explanation, thank you!
I know you're talking about newer bikes, but I have a big shot by Arlen Ness on a 2000 road glide Doc, and have had it on there for 8 9 years no issues whatsoever. And if I'm not mistaken I'm limited on choices with a 21-year-old bike. Or at least I was at the time of purchase but I'm very happy with it
Glad the bike is running well. Thanks ~ Doc
TTS for the WIN!!!
TBH TTS kinda sucks. Very old tech. PowerVision is the best for the money followed by FP3. Everything else for the most part is cumbersome junk.
I don't own a Harley, but this video has so much information great stuff. I enjoyed watching the whole video.
Also you need to call and ask your performance parts company and ask them what tuner works best with their product. Example: Rhinehart recommends Power Vision... and man does it work!!!! Bottom Line have it Dyno Tuned
All i did was put a pair of 2inch straight down pipes on my Iron 883, im thinking the Vance & Hines fp3 is my best buy for the money. Comments?
Just leave it stock & enjoy the ride !
Haha haha. That’s a good one.
Daniel Monger too simple
Hah! Worse advice has never been given.
I’m perfectly happy with the performance from my 107 . If I want speed I’ll drive my 6.4 Hemi! 😂
@@roadglide1142 oh, a hemi you say.
Well then...
Thanks Doc. I understand tuners so much better now.
So you're saying, if I swapped my exhaust from stock to v&h short shots or big radius while keeping the stock air cleaner, I don't need to tune? Not even with an FP3? I have a 2019 sportster 48.
aDRIAN pAMINTUAN Yes.
As long as your ok with the decel pop you will get then ya dont need one.
Think of your engine as a big air pump which is restricting suction with the use of a stock A/C. Just because you add some sound doesn't mean you're pulling in more air. Exhaust only will change scavenging and may even hurt performance, probably not much if any depending on type.
Doc thx you nailed it now I understand exactly what I need.
Fool me once
Shame on you
Fool me twice
Shame on me
Fool me three times
Its time to Change brands.
I'm starting to rethink getting
an aftermarket exhaust.
If the exhaust didn't look
so hideous on my Fat Bob
I wouldn't worry about
changing it out.
I like the Vance & Hines
Slash cut short shots.
They look & sound
Awesome!
If your gonna spend a lot of money on a full exhaust system. Go with a 2 into 1. They provide better performance than any duel exhaust system.
Doc is the man!
Thank you….Doc
Warranty makes zero difference. Unless they proof your changes caused the issue they have to cover it. FTC slapped Harleys hand for deceptive warranty as they should. Failure analysis has distinctive failure Moses that are identifiable. This warranty is only as good as your dealership. This is why I only buy bikes from Family owned dealerships and avoid corporate owned Harley dealers. Bottom line since the FTC slapped Harleys hands with their warranty policies applications the game has changed.
Great Info, Thank You, Had a Zippers Injection Kit Put on My 01 HD Road King Police, it comes with the Thunder Max,talk about night and day. I have a Great Tuner locally.
Just adding slips ons and air. Should I just have the dealer re map?
That was clearly covered in in the video.
Emil George people just don't pay attention
At the 2:15 mark he does start to address the issue of adding exhaust and an air cleaner. He then talks about needing a turner. However, I believe there is a less expensive option that he omits and that is the dealer downloading a possible map directly to the ECM. This is usually less costly than buying a tuner if H-D has created a map for the particular exhaust and air cleaner that you are using. Not sure why Doc didn't elaborate on this option.
Very, Very well done. Informative and stresses the need for doing your own due diligence. Doc needs a raise even if he is making big bucks.
"Black Flagging" customers motorcycles, one more way that Harley is destroying it's customer base.
Well. I for one understand them. If you use a tuner that will change the signals from the HD system you don´t know what will happend to the bike in the long run. So HD don´t want ppl coming in saying something is wrong with their "stock" Harley... It´s just comon sence for a Company. Protect your Product.
None HD tuner that is..
This was a required action forced on Harley when the Obama administration's EPA sued them. They got backed into a corner and had to agree to this practice as part of the settlement. I think John Maxwell explained it pretty good on one of his videos.
DOC is the man
Why would I use tune on a bike manufacturer’s product that’s not capable to make a timing/cam chain tensioner??😜😂
they have not made spring tension cam shoes in 14 years get out of your parent basement and turn off fox news
j Eber I rest my case! Lol
@@1957eberhart MAGA
Being as a number of us up here in Minnesota have had to call Harley directly and start an argument about local dealers not wanting to warranty anything out. I'm not too worried about avoiding my warranty anymore. If you don't want to cover anything why should I be worried about it. I wasted a good chunk of change on a 7-year warranty and had to go through the Harley corporate office because local dealers would not warranty simple things.
This video was about tuners. Was your Power Train warranty in question because of a tuner? Sad to hear of a dealer issue. Glad you went to Harley cooperate for answers and clarification….Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Yes sir and I just want to say I always enjoy your videos as they are very informative. I do most of my service on my own because of watching people like yourselves and years of watching the guys from Law Abiding Biker and Fix My Hog. I saved for a few years with lots of overtime to pay cash for my 2013 Dyna wide glide, 3in extras and a 7-year warranty. Then at my 3000 mi service I had purchased exhaust, intake and a screamin eagle tuner and stopped in to two dealerships and they both told me it would void my 7-year warranty on pretty much anything that was attached to the electrical and the motor/drivetrain. After talking with Harley-Davidson Corp one of the guys on the phone suggested I bring it to a Dyno shop that was a half mile from my house. I had heard of them at the time but thought they only worked on certain toys. Those guys were great at a great price and Harley Corp told me they would back them with any warranty issues 100%.
The only thing I put on my bikes are miles.
FP3 just use the canned map and send it back to them and they make it more efficient and flash it to your bike directly.
That is partially true. They come with the auto tune feature to dial in your specific configuration on the bike. The neat thing is once you’ve completed the auto tune session(s) you can send it to V&H for them to polish that particular tune. Even better the customer service is great and if needed, they can look at your tune values in real time to see what’s going on while the bike is running. I have one and have played with these features already and love it.
@@rubenpineiro6704 Yea I watch V&H make the maps on the dyno tune. They make every square green on the map. What do you think the difference in performance would be using the auto tune?