The online hate Joyce has received is ridiculous! People just love to jump on trends and either hate or love someone they have no clue about and it's really sad. Without her locked in would not have been as entertaining and that's facts. Angry Ginge may see things s a joke but her mental health is being sacrificed for this :(
@@Bartholomyso what tbh let’s say she was rude(which obviously wasn’t unprovoked) you guys are acting like she is the worst person on the world racial slurs, comparing her to footballers and bullying her for being rude to the biggest hater ever. Literally acting like she murdered someone when she was nothing but nice to the other cast mates
@@Bartholomy did you listen to the podcast?? She clearly explained how he aggravated her before and hurt her but they chose to cut that scene. And that's why she reacted in that way.
I just wanna appreciate how this podcast genuinely allows you to get to know and understand the perspective of the guests rather than just going straight into the drama for the views like other podcasts x ( max is also such a sweetheart for checking in on Joyce like tha )
Joyce is a class act. She has received racial abuse from angry ginge fans and has the right to say a lot worse but she showed grace. Hopefully he can learn from this and not harass people and call out his fans when they are racially attacking people.
Who made it racial? I'm not saying she deserves any hate but claiming that people hate me cause of my skin color when that wasn't the case at all is kinda lame.@@katiethescammer
Well having watched locked in and never fully understanding the context behind why Joyce got so mad. Now she has explained her side I really actually understand completely where she has came from. If you do not know what angry ginge is about then you of course are going to have your guard up and think who is this man? Like people we need to be real …. I get ginge as a character but then understanding that he has fans who don’t actually do it as a joke (like ginge does) they do it to just be nasty.
The worst part is that these boys are trying to gaslight her into thinking she’s overreacting when they are literally inciting racial and misogynistic abuse.
@@mqk135the intent behind it can be seen that have ACTUALLY experienced racism and misogyny.... you're just unintelligent and unexperienced. And instead of sitting down and letting people that actually know what they're talking about... you're here... ew.
54:51 She made valid points about the fans that you attract based on the content you put out. Absolutely love the grace that you have amongst all the hate you’ve been receiving. Big love Madame Joyce ❤
I love the awareness this podcast brought. It’s crazy how fans can paint a person to be one way and not consider that maybe they are genuinely good people
she deflects everything and doesnt take any accountability and lies about multible things maybe shes nice and all but shes the only one saying someones whole fanbase is toxic etc. while i think his fanbase is a lot bigger then she even understands
Yeah and I think he knew saying Ginge is a “lovely bloke” is a bit pointless cause of course people like Ginge are gonna be nice to other men…especially ones in their friendship circle or who is endorsed by other men.
She also didn't need to press charges on someone for being hit with a crumpet, while she threw ketchup and eggs at fu, or laughing when Danny hit tenn in the face with the orange....
honest to god max you are so amazing, i love that you gave joyce the space to rant and tell her side, you are such an important part of this pod, haters gonna hate!
Joyce was rightfully defensive because ginge came in attacking, if you need to be convinced that ginge had no good intentions going in you should watch his reactions and how vocal he was being with the hate towards Joyce. I hope she can move on from this with her head held high, everyone can choose not to like someone but to base it in bias and prejudice is uncalled for. ❤
Never heard of Madame Joyce, I'm only a few minutes in and she already seems great (especially as a fellow Londoner). I've also got a spare ticket for the first London show if anyone wants to buy it (obviously only asking face value for it), now that I've got a M&G for the last night (still got to book a hotel, which is difficult coz you can't filter by how good the beds are 😅).
LOVE Joyce! Listen to her podcast all the time, no idea how people can hate on her, give her podcast a listen and tell me you didn’t laugh all the way through!
George found a mysterious beep deep within a garage easier than he finds a sentence when a woman speaks to him. Bless him. He needs a wingman. Or a re-evaluation 😂😂 EDIT: I'm glad that George made the jokes I was thinking of with the cats and teabags - the best jokes are often the most simple and obvious 😅
I swear this happened or I’m going crazy. Max had a drunk argument on a train to Manchester. They were going to pride then I was anxiously looking around and Joyce looked at me and smiled shaking her head 😅
1:19:03 - I can't hear George's joke. Did he say "I could use some 'top' men"? 😂🤦🏻♂️ Also, I swear those Raglan shirts were worn exclusively by homosexuals, boy bands (much of the same), and basic bitches? 😂😂
Ginge has zero responsibility here. He’s addressed it. She’s gotta realize they’re all twelve. No matter what he says twelve year olds will act twelve. It’s not what he is is what he attracts. What kinda garbage personal attack is that😂😂 quit holding people accountable for whatever other individuals say. The lad has never promoted any hate, he’s produced an extremely loyal base and she took the show personally when all he did was a job. She then continues to back it during and after the show. So what do you expect from diehard 12 year old stans. Just firm the L and move on. Zero of this is Ginge’s fault or “responsibility”. If ya say the word assault expect some blowback when there wasn’t any. By hour three when no one “knew” Danny or “his content” beamed ten in the face with an actual solid object wasn’t anyone wildin from that. Oh and they did show him saying the elevator shagging bit btw.
Like there’s a reason all the house mates have only addressed hate comments and either backed Ginge or stayed silent about the actual argument followed by insta beef. And that reason ain’t cause of Danny splitting up the boys and girls😂😂
I like both Joyce and Ginge but ngl if I had fans and they were acting as disgusting as they were to joyce I would definitely feel some responsibility bc without me someone wouldnt be getting racist abuse. Even if they are 12 it shouldnt excuse the things they say. Its so f'ed that racism and this behaviour is seen as something you grow out of like a right of passage, at 12 I knew the difference between right and wrong. It should just never be done in the first place. Also Danny was actually there to be in the show, they knew he was acting up for the cameras whereas she had no clue who ginge was so if he comes, doesn't introduce himself then suddenly starts saying everyone on the outside hates you and slut shames you then lobs a crumpet at you, ofc youre gonna be like wtf and defend yourself. Also, the amount of abuse she's getting doesnt equate to simply an 'L', getting racially online isn't an L its evil, if hundreds of people are doing that she has a right to respond rather than just taking it, shes a human being i dont know why we make it seem that influencers have no right to respond to these things just because they have a following, if 10 people passed you on the street and started hurling racist abuse at you youre gonna say something back so imagine it being hundreds of people on the internet, it's horrible, evil and pathetic
@@NayNay-rj6rf yes and Ginge as I’ve said has addressed that. He’s openly said he doesn’t condone it. That along with never advocating for it. He holds zero responsibility to this as I said it’s her action of calling assault over bread that has received the blow back. And does it matter if she knows who Ginge is when every guest brought onto the shows objective is to disrupt the players? They’re literally in the challenge room so I don’t buy the whole oh she thought he’s a producer therefore it’s all good. They were in the box mid challenge. It’s an obvious windup. One that she bare overreacted to. Again no one called assault on Danny when they didn’t know him, or for any other object thrown in the house, last season they didn’t call assault on destiny for literally bruising maxs ribs and having a medic team come in, or for max cutting destiny’s face with a tortilla shell (they said this afterwards not included in the episodes). So she overreacts during the challenge. Apparently 15 minutes worth of it according to every single housemate. She only apologizes once she realizes what’s happening and who he is according to every housemate. Then after her apology goes on ig plays two face and calls it assault. Ginge does the funny two minute bit having the lawyer phone call skit. Amidst all this fans are hating on her because of her false life ruining, career ending, objectively false accusation. She took it too far so now the fans all collectively have a goal of taking it too far. Yes the collective makes it worse than what she’s done. But on an individual basis not at all. It’s a bunch of individuals each matching her ridiculous behavior. During all of this Ginge says he doesn’t condone the hate. Which btw he didn’t have to do, because he only operated within the bounds of his job on the show, to cause a windup. Everything after that he literally has nothing to do with other than defending himself not assaulting a twat. How are those actions responsible for what 1,000 twelve year olds say? He didn’t invite it and doesn’t condone it and I cannot stress enough his only input on this is defending himself through a lawyer phone call skit showcasing how stupid the allegation is. Which if I might add is totally fair, and he had the right to clap back with much more than that😂 she still would’ve gotten the abuse because of if it wasn’t Ginge winding her up it would’ve been filly or max or whoever. Like he came in with a nerf gun shooting. You think she’d of had a different reaction if it was Max that shit her in the eye like Ginge did Danny? At least then she couldn’t be saying the content creator is at fault for racist insults from individuals acting on their own will against the content creators wishes. The point where everything goes sideways is claiming assault. Not when Ginge enters a challenge room mid challenge then proceeds to do his dang job😂
@@Charles-j6vit’s not obvious just because they were mid challenge. The producers come in and out all the time that we don’t see because it’s edited out. People like filly, max khadar etc introduced themselves. Ginge didn’t.
George is definitely holding back the tougher questions to keep the peace. She doesn't seem like a bad person but she should have probably just laughed off the stuff with Ginge instead of trying to defend herself.
Maybe u don’t have the back bone to defend urself in this situation but u shouldn’t advise people to accept people’s shit. If people wanna go around attacking people for a laugh then they should expect to be attacked back. What a silly little comment
So max’s suggestion is footasylum are in the wrong because they shud tell contestsnts thst the person coming in has fans and clout so dont be rude and a prick too them like u wud if they didnt have clout. Nice one max 👍. Ermm just a heads up everybody, this person coming in has clout so make sure ur nice with them, anyone else dont worry just treat them like shit like u normally do they are irrelivant.
thats not what he is saying, he's just saying they should say we have a guest coming today so people are aware. If you have a random guy come in who doesn't introduce himself or say anything then suddenly goes you talk too much, everyone on the outside hates you and shames you for past sexual encounters you're gonna be like who tf is this and defend yourself. Also, ginge lobbing a crumpet at her is so unnecessary, considering his content and the fact that he knows the reason why he is there is to stir things up why would he get so that annoyed that someone said hes ginger with a fringe...its pathetic
@@NayNay-rj6rf ginge wasnt arsed lol.. i get ur point but from EVERYBODY elses version (not even the 2 minute clip of them arguing that was shown) all said joyce had attitude with him because she didnt know who he was. Even if she thought it was a producer, she knows its a gamseshow and his job, even if it was someone workinf for the show, they are doing it as part of the gsme too try and get them out. Thsts a fact. She was happy being a bitch and a stinking attitude because she thought he worked for the show, nd u want too talk shit about the crumpet, once she found out he had followers she wasnt thst notherd by it then was she ? She apologised even! Saying sorry ginge blah blah blah.. why would she apologise if she was so bothered by it and it wasnt her being stuck up. Come on? I do understsnd ur point, but u also know she apologised and changed her tune once they told her he has followers. You should treat ginge or anyone from the staff the same knowing there job is too get ppl out of the game. She should ever not comment on it or admit she messed up and was rude too someone she thought was part of the staff doing their job. She cant play the victim like she has it makes no sense
yeah but is saying 'have your ten minutes' deserving of racial abuse tho? its the equivalent to a your mum joke and people are literally being so disgustingly racist to her...she didn't even say have your 10 minutes in a way which was aggressive or serious. I like both ginge and joyce but its true what she said, his ride or die fans are not good people if they think their behaviour is justified by her only saying that
@@NayNay-rj6rf sorry but i have not seen an racist comment maybe there is but most of it is just making here a meme bc of the crumpet or calling her mark henry so she couldn’t get her 10 mins of fame anything racist is bad ofc but she only acknowledges the 1% and not the 99% making a meme of her
Didn't Madame Joyce literally say she wouldn't bring up or discuss about the locked in drama ever again in her own podcast? It's just... hypocritical of her... She could just decline talking about it....
@@blayke9994 Hey dude looks like chatgpt can answer that for you. There are ways to minimize unnecessary bias and present your account in a more balanced and objective manner: 1. Acknowledge Your Bias: Recognize and acknowledge that you may have a bias. Being aware of this can help you approach the storytelling process with a degree of self-awareness. 2. Stick to the Facts: Focus on presenting the facts as accurately as possible. Stick to the events that occurred and avoid adding interpretations or assumptions that may introduce unnecessary bias. 3. Use Neutral Language: Be mindful of the language you use. Choose words that are neutral and avoid language that may carry strong emotional connotations. 4. Include Different Perspectives: If relevant, consider including other perspectives or viewpoints to provide a more well-rounded account of the situation. This can help mitigate the perception of bias. 5. Separate Fact from Interpretation: Clearly distinguish between the facts of the situation and your interpretation or feelings about those facts. This helps readers or listeners understand what is objective information and what is your subjective experience. 6. Offer Context: Providing context can help others understand the circumstances surrounding the events. This context can contribute to a more comprehensive understanding of the situation. 7. Encourage Dialogue: Rather than presenting your side as the definitive truth, invite open dialogue. Acknowledge that there may be other perspectives and be open to discussing them. Perhaps this clears things up for you.
@@blayke9994 Even chatgpt can answer that for you lmao. There are ways to minimize unnecessary bias and present your account in a more balanced and objective manner: Acknowledge you may have a bias, focus on presenting the facts as accurately as possible, use neutral language, include different perspective, separate fact from interpretation, offer context, invite open dialogue, etc. Perhaps this clears things up for you fella
@@busterbaxter828 this is about a reality show? A person wouldn't have to defend themselves like this at all if it wasn't for what seems like overly attached fans going after them bc they don't realise reality shows are not real and are edited for drama.
Ginges content literilly is comedy? The problem joyce hasnt realised is the people commenting and shit too u. Is CHILDREN. The onces doing that are 12 year old boys and the reason they do it is because their kids. And thats only a % of his fans. His content is being funny. He is very funny thats why he has such a big following
He’s an adult he could have easily told his fans to stop the ridiculous amount of pure hatred she’s receiving from them + A LOT of his audience are grown men too who are behaving like high schoolers let’s not play dumb.
@@CarlyGayJepsen why is it his job too stop his fans, including my own opinion.. it was her actions clout chasing brutal personality. She was so high and mighty untill she realised he had fans and clout then shit herself. She did that? No1 else? Thats her actions why should ginge try and protect her like nahhhhh shes not a clout chasing vile person, he doesnt know her. She wpuldnf give a fuck if it wasnt blew up and showed her personality for who she is
It isn’t about it hurting her. He came in with fighting words then threw something at her, I doubt everyone would be Kiki’ng after that. I know I’d be fighting.
the biggest joke is that ginge never did attack her after locked in and she did attack him! and she still says its his fault for everything she never did anything wrong, joyce thats the reason people wil never like you and the hate keeps coming bc nothing is ginge his fault and his content isnt only harmfull its just that you only see the negative in things
the biggest joke is that ginge never did attack her after locked in and she did attack him! and she still says its his fault for everything she never did anything wrong, joyce thats the reason people wil never like you and the hate keeps coming bc nothing is ginge his fault and his content isnt only harmfull its just that you only see the negative in things
We gotta appreciate Max for giving Joyce the space to share her thoughts and feelings on everything towards her lockedIN experience
defo - it's nice to see someone backs her
Yeah, I'm so proud of him. He fully empathise with what Joyce is going through. Honestly, love Max😊
i'm sorry but George's face going bright red after she complimented him was the Funniest thing 😭💀
Joyce so shamelessly hitting on George is all of us. Get it girl
The online hate Joyce has received is ridiculous! People just love to jump on trends and either hate or love someone they have no clue about and it's really sad. Without her locked in would not have been as entertaining and that's facts. Angry Ginge may see things s a joke but her mental health is being sacrificed for this :(
I was more shocked to see some of the other locked in people jump on the hate when she has done nothing wrong to them.
@@0003-t6x for realllll its so upsetting to know nobody had her back apart from Shannon and ash
She is fake, hated on ginge when he came in then when everyone told her who he was she switched up lol
@@Bartholomyso what tbh let’s say she was rude(which obviously wasn’t unprovoked) you guys are acting like she is the worst person on the world racial slurs, comparing her to footballers and bullying her for being rude to the biggest hater ever. Literally acting like she murdered someone when she was nothing but nice to the other cast mates
@@Bartholomy did you listen to the podcast?? She clearly explained how he aggravated her before and hurt her but they chose to cut that scene. And that's why she reacted in that way.
I just wanna appreciate how this podcast genuinely allows you to get to know and understand the perspective of the guests rather than just going straight into the drama for the views like other podcasts x ( max is also such a sweetheart for checking in on Joyce like tha )
Joyce is a class act. She has received racial abuse from angry ginge fans and has the right to say a lot worse but she showed grace. Hopefully he can learn from this and not harass people and call out his fans when they are racially attacking people.
Nothing was racial about this, they both don't like each other and angry ginge fans took it far, that's it.
yeah they made it racial so...@@Jaquise_
Hahahahaha class act wtaf
Who made it racial? I'm not saying she deserves any hate but claiming that people hate me cause of my skin color when that wasn't the case at all is kinda lame.@@katiethescammer
If you’ve not seen the plethora of racial abuse and body shaming that’s been spewed , I suggest you keep your opinions to yourself Jaquise.
Cl Joyce’s side of the story makes a lot of sense
Well having watched locked in and never fully understanding the context behind why Joyce got so mad. Now she has explained her side I really actually understand completely where she has came from. If you do not know what angry ginge is about then you of course are going to have your guard up and think who is this man? Like people we need to be real …. I get ginge as a character but then understanding that he has fans who don’t actually do it as a joke (like ginge does) they do it to just be nasty.
Thank you Joyce for hitting on George for us all
The worst part is that these boys are trying to gaslight her into thinking she’s overreacting when they are literally inciting racial and misogynistic abuse.
frrrr all the boys use the "its not that deep" excuse but racially harassing someone is serious. ginge's humour is so dry and unfunny
@@georgelazar_ what did ginge do
She is tho
Shes crying about a crumpet being thrown at her 😂
the worst part is that that is 0.01% of the people and thats the only ones she says are there is a bit manipulative
@@mqk135the intent behind it can be seen that have ACTUALLY experienced racism and misogyny.... you're just unintelligent and unexperienced. And instead of sitting down and letting people that actually know what they're talking about... you're here... ew.
54:51 She made valid points about the fans that you attract based on the content you put out.
Absolutely love the grace that you have amongst all the hate you’ve been receiving.
Big love Madame Joyce ❤
I love the awareness this podcast brought. It’s crazy how fans can paint a person to be one way and not consider that maybe they are genuinely good people
she deflects everything and doesnt take any accountability and lies about multible things maybe shes nice and all but shes the only one saying someones whole fanbase is toxic etc. while i think his fanbase is a lot bigger then she even understands
@@hgirjiofebunsjbkshe answered everything and gave her side to it.
The vendetta against outspoken black women on these reality shows is truly crazy! These producers are going to hell
Honestly if you see the trend of it since the 90s and 00s even. The same bs all the time.
Love how Max handled this. Joyce is amazing and he really reassured her. And max your voice is amazinggg babes x
43:34 -the synchronized “mmm” was satisfying😭
You can see how conflicted George is as he knows Danny and ginge
Yeah and I think he knew saying Ginge is a “lovely bloke” is a bit pointless cause of course people like Ginge are gonna be nice to other men…especially ones in their friendship circle or who is endorsed by other men.
@@annaclare88 what do u mean
@@davidmcinnes8144 men stick up for other men.
@@davidmcinnes8144exactly what they said
Joyce didn’t need all that hate it was unnecessary
She also didn't need to press charges on someone for being hit with a crumpet, while she threw ketchup and eggs at fu, or laughing when Danny hit tenn in the face with the orange....
Joyce getting Niall’s name wrong and the camera panning to her reaction was such an “the office” moment I loved it😭😭😭
honest to god max you are so amazing, i love that you gave joyce the space to rant and tell her side, you are such an important part of this pod, haters gonna hate!
MADAME JOYCE IS THE GOAT! BAD GYAL WE GOT YOU❤
Goat☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
i love Joyce and everything she represents so happy max and george gave her space to talk
Joyce was rightfully defensive because ginge came in attacking, if you need to be convinced that ginge had no good intentions going in you should watch his reactions and how vocal he was being with the hate towards Joyce. I hope she can move on from this with her head held high, everyone can choose not to like someone but to base it in bias and prejudice is uncalled for. ❤
how did ginge come in attacking
Its just a crumpet love 😂
💯💯💯 i just wish she'd won . F them
@@AlecsApple oh no a crumpet hit my face how sad
She kicks a girl out of the house and then cries bc she thinks the boys were teaming up 😂
@@mqk135 y u minimizing assault? I bet ur one of those people who find it funny.. pity u
You know what I actually like Max's voice today😊
Absolutely love Joyce!! Such a down to earth lovely girl!! Wish her all the best🙏🏼
Never heard of Madame Joyce, I'm only a few minutes in and she already seems great (especially as a fellow Londoner). I've also got a spare ticket for the first London show if anyone wants to buy it (obviously only asking face value for it), now that I've got a M&G for the last night (still got to book a hotel, which is difficult coz you can't filter by how good the beds are 😅).
Yes this is why I love you guys cause I had d to block the entire locked in cast except a few
Can guarantee you they won’t lose sleep over night.
Ooh sorry
This is my first time meeting Madam Joyce and im glad i did in this podcast. Very mature, very demure
I’m watching for Joyce !!!
Never heard of Joyce before this but GOD I LOVE HER SM
LOVE Joyce! Listen to her podcast all the time, no idea how people can hate on her, give her podcast a listen and tell me you didn’t laugh all the way through!
Madame Joyce!!! I'm sat😌🫡
Can't lie I want to see Ash on this show now love her!
I am happy that Max knows Joyce and their friends already. Max, you gave justice for Joyce; I'm so proud of you.😊🫶
George found a mysterious beep deep within a garage easier than he finds a sentence when a woman speaks to him. Bless him. He needs a wingman. Or a re-evaluation 😂😂
EDIT: I'm glad that George made the jokes I was thinking of with the cats and teabags - the best jokes are often the most simple and obvious 😅
MADAME JOYCE WILL ALWAYS BE MOTHER THAT MY HOOCHIE MOMMA FR
love the sound of Max’s voice today
9:29 oh she gets it
We love youuuu Joyce ❤
No
9:38 IM DYING 😭😭😭😭 PURR??????? I CANT BREATHE
I swear this happened or I’m going crazy. Max had a drunk argument on a train to Manchester. They were going to pride then I was anxiously looking around and Joyce looked at me and smiled shaking her head 😅
hope they finally make george real in this episode
The bad boys and bad girls need Max in our new studio set up.!!!!
Best guest interview !
"Jaackmate" was one of the people who go in just to fuck things up on a previous "Locked In"
I really like ginge and danny and joyce, but the way that ginges fans have come for joyce is disgusting
Joyce iss the most hilarious woman idek🤣🤣
We love Joyce ❤
I am so involve with this episode
Joyce was my favorite from the jump. But I also don’t judge people I don’t know.
Nah I love madam Joyce ❤such an icon
Exactly where were those Crumpets hidden? Good Pod today :)
Ginge himself verified that he threw them at her
@@GailNkadimengthe ones max pulled out
@@GailNkadimeng nah he threw it at tennessee and it came of tennessee and hit joyce anny daarons etc all confirmed this
shxtsngigs x useless hotline crossover next 👀
George finding someone being shot by a nerf gun hilarious, is so embarrassing
max’s voice is so beautiful 😢
George might not be a virgin anymore
this was wholesome.
What’s the ticket link pls?
New episode!! 🎉
Rather observant
Lmao we love you Max
George where is that hoodie from?
1:18:37 madam joyce: practically says she's dtf george
george to max: i'd top you instead
❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓ 😭😭💀 this is why george is single
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD YAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
If I was a pay pig, all this free Stephanie slander would be 🔥
This has me DONE 😭
omg 😂😂
Slay Joyce!!! I kinda ship Joyce and George 😳❤️❤️❤️
i love me Madame Joyce😍
1:19:03 - I can't hear George's joke. Did he say "I could use some 'top' men"? 😂🤦🏻♂️ Also, I swear those Raglan shirts were worn exclusively by homosexuals, boy bands (much of the same), and basic bitches? 😂😂
And now he(Max) just tops men
George pls come home , the kids miss you
Damn I have a friend called Stephanie but I guess not after this 😮💨
I never knew you were going to Edi 😢 I’ve got tickets for Glasgow but live in Edinburgh
They aren’t I think they’ve got Glasgow and Edinburgh mixed up x
You guys should come to Cali at some point for tour!
They should get ginge on to hear his side of the story
think he’s already been on every podcast and made a million vids on it
@@annaclare88 but it doesn’t seem fair to have 1 on without the over you know
I’m not saying I’m on ginge side I’m just saying if they want to talk about what happened better to have both on
@@xrate2974 just watch his streams/vids if u wanna know his take
@@xrate2974 well ginge and everyone has been doing that all along
Please have Jordan and Henry on xx
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BELFAST WHAT
Ginge has zero responsibility here. He’s addressed it. She’s gotta realize they’re all twelve. No matter what he says twelve year olds will act twelve. It’s not what he is is what he attracts. What kinda garbage personal attack is that😂😂 quit holding people accountable for whatever other individuals say. The lad has never promoted any hate, he’s produced an extremely loyal base and she took the show personally when all he did was a job. She then continues to back it during and after the show. So what do you expect from diehard 12 year old stans. Just firm the L and move on. Zero of this is Ginge’s fault or “responsibility”. If ya say the word assault expect some blowback when there wasn’t any. By hour three when no one “knew” Danny or “his content” beamed ten in the face with an actual solid object wasn’t anyone wildin from that. Oh and they did show him saying the elevator shagging bit btw.
Like there’s a reason all the house mates have only addressed hate comments and either backed Ginge or stayed silent about the actual argument followed by insta beef. And that reason ain’t cause of Danny splitting up the boys and girls😂😂
I like both Joyce and Ginge but ngl if I had fans and they were acting as disgusting as they were to joyce I would definitely feel some responsibility bc without me someone wouldnt be getting racist abuse. Even if they are 12 it shouldnt excuse the things they say. Its so f'ed that racism and this behaviour is seen as something you grow out of like a right of passage, at 12 I knew the difference between right and wrong. It should just never be done in the first place. Also Danny was actually there to be in the show, they knew he was acting up for the cameras whereas she had no clue who ginge was so if he comes, doesn't introduce himself then suddenly starts saying everyone on the outside hates you and slut shames you then lobs a crumpet at you, ofc youre gonna be like wtf and defend yourself. Also, the amount of abuse she's getting doesnt equate to simply an 'L', getting racially online isn't an L its evil, if hundreds of people are doing that she has a right to respond rather than just taking it, shes a human being i dont know why we make it seem that influencers have no right to respond to these things just because they have a following, if 10 people passed you on the street and started hurling racist abuse at you youre gonna say something back so imagine it being hundreds of people on the internet, it's horrible, evil and pathetic
@@NayNay-rj6rf yes and Ginge as I’ve said has addressed that. He’s openly said he doesn’t condone it. That along with never advocating for it. He holds zero responsibility to this as I said it’s her action of calling assault over bread that has received the blow back. And does it matter if she knows who Ginge is when every guest brought onto the shows objective is to disrupt the players? They’re literally in the challenge room so I don’t buy the whole oh she thought he’s a producer therefore it’s all good. They were in the box mid challenge. It’s an obvious windup. One that she bare overreacted to. Again no one called assault on Danny when they didn’t know him, or for any other object thrown in the house, last season they didn’t call assault on destiny for literally bruising maxs ribs and having a medic team come in, or for max cutting destiny’s face with a tortilla shell (they said this afterwards not included in the episodes). So she overreacts during the challenge. Apparently 15 minutes worth of it according to every single housemate. She only apologizes once she realizes what’s happening and who he is according to every housemate. Then after her apology goes on ig plays two face and calls it assault. Ginge does the funny two minute bit having the lawyer phone call skit. Amidst all this fans are hating on her because of her false life ruining, career ending, objectively false accusation. She took it too far so now the fans all collectively have a goal of taking it too far. Yes the collective makes it worse than what she’s done. But on an individual basis not at all. It’s a bunch of individuals each matching her ridiculous behavior. During all of this Ginge says he doesn’t condone the hate. Which btw he didn’t have to do, because he only operated within the bounds of his job on the show, to cause a windup. Everything after that he literally has nothing to do with other than defending himself not assaulting a twat. How are those actions responsible for what 1,000 twelve year olds say? He didn’t invite it and doesn’t condone it and I cannot stress enough his only input on this is defending himself through a lawyer phone call skit showcasing how stupid the allegation is. Which if I might add is totally fair, and he had the right to clap back with much more than that😂 she still would’ve gotten the abuse because of if it wasn’t Ginge winding her up it would’ve been filly or max or whoever. Like he came in with a nerf gun shooting. You think she’d of had a different reaction if it was Max that shit her in the eye like Ginge did Danny? At least then she couldn’t be saying the content creator is at fault for racist insults from individuals acting on their own will against the content creators wishes. The point where everything goes sideways is claiming assault. Not when Ginge enters a challenge room mid challenge then proceeds to do his dang job😂
@@Charles-j6vit’s not obvious just because they were mid challenge. The producers come in and out all the time that we don’t see because it’s edited out. People like filly, max khadar etc introduced themselves. Ginge didn’t.
being twelve years old isnt an excuse for racism
George is definitely holding back the tougher questions to keep the peace.
She doesn't seem like a bad person but she should have probably just laughed off the stuff with Ginge instead of trying to defend herself.
why would she not defend herself after being attacked online since the start??
@@heidiclarice Exactly! And he was specifically attacking her no one else.
@@heidiclaricethis!
why shouldn’t she defend herself against someone attacking her who she doesn’t know. the situation was flight or fight and she fought.
Maybe u don’t have the back bone to defend urself in this situation but u shouldn’t advise people to accept people’s shit. If people wanna go around attacking people for a laugh then they should expect to be attacked back. What a silly little comment
So max’s suggestion is footasylum are in the wrong because they shud tell contestsnts thst the person coming in has fans and clout so dont be rude and a prick too them like u wud if they didnt have clout.
Nice one max 👍.
Ermm just a heads up everybody, this person coming in has clout so make sure ur nice with them, anyone else dont worry just treat them like shit like u normally do they are irrelivant.
thats not what he is saying, he's just saying they should say we have a guest coming today so people are aware. If you have a random guy come in who doesn't introduce himself or say anything then suddenly goes you talk too much, everyone on the outside hates you and shames you for past sexual encounters you're gonna be like who tf is this and defend yourself. Also, ginge lobbing a crumpet at her is so unnecessary, considering his content and the fact that he knows the reason why he is there is to stir things up why would he get so that annoyed that someone said hes ginger with a fringe...its pathetic
@@NayNay-rj6rf ginge wasnt arsed lol.. i get ur point but from EVERYBODY elses version (not even the 2 minute clip of them arguing that was shown) all said joyce had attitude with him because she didnt know who he was.
Even if she thought it was a producer, she knows its a gamseshow and his job, even if it was someone workinf for the show, they are doing it as part of the gsme too try and get them out. Thsts a fact. She was happy being a bitch and a stinking attitude because she thought he worked for the show, nd u want too talk shit about the crumpet, once she found out he had followers she wasnt thst notherd by it then was she ? She apologised even! Saying sorry ginge blah blah blah.. why would she apologise if she was so bothered by it and it wasnt her being stuck up. Come on?
I do understsnd ur point, but u also know she apologised and changed her tune once they told her he has followers. You should treat ginge or anyone from the staff the same knowing there job is too get ppl out of the game. She should ever not comment on it or admit she messed up and was rude too someone she thought was part of the staff doing their job. She cant play the victim like she has it makes no sense
free up ginge
i think she doesnt understand that saying have your ten minutes is why she got hate
yeah but is saying 'have your ten minutes' deserving of racial abuse tho? its the equivalent to a your mum joke and people are literally being so disgustingly racist to her...she didn't even say have your 10 minutes in a way which was aggressive or serious. I like both ginge and joyce but its true what she said, his ride or die fans are not good people if they think their behaviour is justified by her only saying that
@@NayNay-rj6rf sorry but i have not seen an racist comment maybe there is but most of it is just making here a meme bc of the crumpet or calling her mark henry so she couldn’t get her 10 mins of fame anything racist is bad ofc but she only acknowledges the 1% and not the 99% making a meme of her
Who is she what she do 😂
Watch the video.
@@Qrestu7 I have some random awful woman
Didn't Madame Joyce literally say she wouldn't bring up or discuss about the locked in drama ever again in her own podcast? It's just... hypocritical of her... She could just decline talking about it....
she has the choice to change her mind. must she let u know u first?? stop having such an opinion on someone who doesn't even know u exist lol
But everyone else is making her the topic of conversation, so why shouldn’t she
everyone has been talking about her she just wants to defend herself shutup
She said after filming hers. This is all prerecorded, homegurl is on holiday minding her own.
Last time talking about it on HER platform. Plus, this episode could have been recorded BEFORE that.
She’s telling the story unbelievably bias
How has she supposed to say it without it being biased it’s literally just her side
Literally what telling YOUR side of the story is. You didn’t experience it from anyone else’s point of view
@@blayke9994 Hey dude looks like chatgpt can answer that for you.
There are ways to minimize unnecessary bias and present your account in a more balanced and objective manner:
1. Acknowledge Your Bias: Recognize and acknowledge that you may have a bias. Being aware of this can help you approach the storytelling process with a degree of self-awareness.
2. Stick to the Facts: Focus on presenting the facts as accurately as possible. Stick to the events that occurred and avoid adding interpretations or assumptions that may introduce unnecessary bias.
3. Use Neutral Language: Be mindful of the language you use. Choose words that are neutral and avoid language that may carry strong emotional connotations.
4. Include Different Perspectives: If relevant, consider including other perspectives or viewpoints to provide a more well-rounded account of the situation. This can help mitigate the perception of bias.
5. Separate Fact from Interpretation: Clearly distinguish between the facts of the situation and your interpretation or feelings about those facts. This helps readers or listeners understand what is objective information and what is your subjective experience.
6. Offer Context: Providing context can help others understand the circumstances surrounding the events. This context can contribute to a more comprehensive understanding of the situation.
7. Encourage Dialogue: Rather than presenting your side as the definitive truth, invite open dialogue. Acknowledge that there may be other perspectives and be open to discussing them.
Perhaps this clears things up for you.
@@blayke9994 Even chatgpt can answer that for you lmao. There are ways to minimize unnecessary bias and present your account in a more balanced and objective manner: Acknowledge you may have a bias, focus on presenting the facts as accurately as possible, use neutral language, include different perspective, separate fact from interpretation, offer context, invite open dialogue, etc. Perhaps this clears things up for you fella
@@busterbaxter828 this is about a reality show? A person wouldn't have to defend themselves like this at all if it wasn't for what seems like overly attached fans going after them bc they don't realise reality shows are not real and are edited for drama.
"Neil from one direction" she really doesn't know anyone does she?
Who cares
@@Qrestu7 you, that's why you replied
@@Qrestu7 also your mother
Ginges content literilly is comedy? The problem joyce hasnt realised is the people commenting and shit too u. Is CHILDREN. The onces doing that are 12 year old boys and the reason they do it is because their kids. And thats only a % of his fans. His content is being funny. He is very funny thats why he has such a big following
Half of them are adults so stop infantilising them
@@user-td8wc6hz9ghow do you know lmao
He’s an adult he could have easily told his fans to stop the ridiculous amount of pure hatred she’s receiving from them + A LOT of his audience are grown men too who are behaving like high schoolers let’s not play dumb.
@@CarlyGayJepsen why is it his job too stop his fans, including my own opinion.. it was her actions clout chasing brutal personality. She was so high and mighty untill she realised he had fans and clout then shit herself. She did that? No1 else? Thats her actions why should ginge try and protect her like nahhhhh shes not a clout chasing vile person, he doesnt know her. She wpuldnf give a fuck if it wasnt blew up and showed her personality for who she is
As if an old crumpet hurt her ?!!! 😂
if someone through something at you it hurts like ??
It isn’t about it hurting her. He came in with fighting words then threw something at her, I doubt everyone would be Kiki’ng after that. I know I’d be fighting.
@@GailNkadimenggood thing u aint on there 😂
he threw it at her boob, do you have any idea how much that would hurt??
Angry ginge is hilarious x I love his banter
Read the room.
Maybe you wouldn’t love it if you were on the receiving end of it despite just being entertaining on a reality show
Beg
the biggest joke is that ginge never did attack her after locked in and she did attack him! and she still says its his fault for everything she never did anything wrong, joyce thats the reason people wil never like you and the hate keeps coming bc nothing is ginge his fault and his content isnt only harmfull its just that you only see the negative in things
Her voice just grates on me !!
Most people would just click off if they heard a voice they didn’t like.. seems like you want the attention.. here x
she's so jarring idec
That's your mother's business xx.
@@Cinemasthesiology literally makes no sense
Yet you clicked and watched?
20:32 madam joyce clocking the work husbands tea 🫡
We love youuuu Joyce ❤
Whos we
@@yahyamansour3343 u kids r still going kmt give it a rest
the biggest joke is that ginge never did attack her after locked in and she did attack him! and she still says its his fault for everything she never did anything wrong, joyce thats the reason people wil never like you and the hate keeps coming bc nothing is ginge his fault and his content isnt only harmfull its just that you only see the negative in things