There is a link to the Bridges at Toko-Ri and Topgun. The movie is filmed and set onboard the USS Oriskany In the 1st Topgun movie When Maverick is at Vipers house and is in the living room he sees the photo of Viper and Duke (Mavericks dad) together and viper sees that maverick notices the photo he tells maverick that both he and his dad served together onboard the USS Oriskany. Oriskany was part Task force 11 during the Vietnam war and operated in designated area Yankee Station which from 64-66 operated about 100 miles east of Da Nang in south Vietnam. Maverick's dad was shot down on November 5th 1965 as part of VF-51 who flew secret combat missions between 1964 and 1965 over Laos and Cambodia. A week after the events mentioned Oriskany received orders to depart for Subic bay which it arrived at on November 30th before returning to san Diego. Task force 77 was also the designated taskforce that the USS Oriskany served with during the Korean war and is mentioned in the movie
Y mientras el F9F Panther fue el primer cazabombardeo a reacción de la legendaria "Iron Works" de Grumman...el F-14 Tomcat fue el último Caza interceptor de Grumman...
Fantastic. Bridges of Toko-Ri was the impetus of my father's going in to the USAF in 1954 - until '84. I've always thought of Top Gun as the modern-day Toko-Ri picture - incidentally, William Holden's absolute favorite of all his performances (i.e., over Bridge over the River Kwai, Wild Bunch, Sunset Boulevard, S.O.B, Stalag 17, etc...). - Excellent mash-up. Thanks for making it!
I used to do that same walk out to the bow that Bill Holden did when I was an Aviation Ordnanceman (Red Shirt) on board the U.S.S. Oriskany CVA-34 in the Tonkin Gulf in Vietnam in 1970...
This is a great presentation. There was a light show in Texas in 2001 featuring an F-4 Phantom flown by Gen Steve Ritchie USAF Ace retired. His F-4 flow by to this song at the moment of the Tomcat being launched he flow by. Something else as this is a superb intro.
Sorry flow no flew. O met the General a few years ago and told him about it and stated no one told about it until I did. He was happy about the coordination which was a mistake, but a good one.
@@Foomba “Death from Above”! - I grew up hanging out with my dad at the end of the LETO flight line, watching 401st TFW F-4s come and go. Saw an “elephant walk” once too!
Awesome parody and excellently done. This is one of my favourite military aviation films, and the music from Top Gun is one of the few things I liked about it, so a terrific combination as far as I'm concerned. Massive fan of the early jets, and the F9F's in this were so beautifully photographed, always a pleasure to watch. Great stuff!
Both movies featured the Iron Works. My dad worked there his whole life. The F9F Panther, and especially the swept wing version. The Cougar were my favorite aircraft. Saw them both at an air show at Grumman in 1968. It featured the Blue Angels flying F11 Tigers.
Thank you for this! Great tribute to one of the most underrated films of all time. I almost wish you had included the flak storm they flew through….twice if I remember it correctly. Thank you!
No apologies dude. This is an awesome movie and it really paved the way in Hollywood and the public for great movies like Top Gun. My mom used to sit in the movie theatre watching this movie and praying her fiancé would come home alive from the Korean War, which he did and why I am alive today.
The F9F Panther: the original X-Wing fighter in the original Death Star "canyon run"! Must have been very impresive to a teenaged George Lucas! Thanks for the great video!
In James Michener's novel - which the film is based on - the squadron flew McDonnell F2H Banshees which were also used in carrier-based combat during the Korean War.
This was a realistic, gut wrenching view of the limitations of technology and the ultimate human cost of war. His plane was taken down by relatively primitive AA gunfire, a lucky hit that caused a fuel leak. Once on the ground he became the hunted on a primal level. Just brutal, the fear and anguish. Great film, great performances all around. Great cinematography.
Oh MY G O D !! Followed this 'other person's Channel' on YT and noticed a clip of this movie ( which I also enjoyed ). AND Lo-and-Behold.... as I was getting ready to 'comment' ...... I ALREADY DID...How weird is That!!?? Commenting again Jan 2024!!
You watch deck operations on a carrier today and it’s a tightly knit dance on the edge of death. You watch this movie and you wonder how ANYONE survived. Everything seems so… rough. Crude. But it worked and kept working. I love the Panther but it’s so underpowered! As were most jets in those times. Great movie. And a well done video here! 👍
Wow, those shooters sure look casual compared to today. This is the first of the four great jet-war films (followed by "Flight of the Intruder," and the two Top Gun flicks).
Wow, the Oriskany. Just like Viper served on later. This is fantastic. The early days of jets were dangerous times to fly. The jet engine simply wouldn't spool up fast for you. Pilots found this out only when....they needed to spool it up fast. Usually on a go-around or aborting a landing. I can only imagine how tough it was to do this as a Naval Aviator where you're dealing with the old straight deck carriers that were years behind the planes they were carrying. The Bridges at Toko-Ri is a great flick too.
The ironic thing is that at the time William Holden played in several war movies as a soldier who hated war and couldn't wait to be out of it. Here, in Bridge Over River Kwai and Stalag 17 off the top of my head.
If you live in Orange county, Southern California, there are two Grumman Panthers that you can go sit in and play on if you like. They are real Panthers, but covered in gunite. They are in public parks, one in Costa Mesa and the other in Anaheim
Operating from a pitching carrier deck in frigid seas to make bombing runs against intense AAA fire in hostile, rugged mountainous terrain…where do we get such men, indeed!!! True heroes! RIP!!!
I hadn't heard the term and found an article that explained it. The article featured Joe Foss a WW2 US Navy pilot that flew in the Pacific Theater. Joe Foss scored all 26 of his victories flying the Grumman F4F Wildcat.
@Foomba yea but the Navy wanted something better, so Leroy and Grumman came up with the F6F Hellcat Scored over 5000 kills in WW2. My dad worked there his whole life. Love the swept wing version of the F9F Panther. The F9F Cougar. Entered the war too late to see action in Korea. Saw it fly along with all Grumman planes at an air show at Grummans Calverton plant when I was a kid in 1968.
@@Foomba yes especially for a 13 year old kid. The Blue Angels were flying Grumman F11 tigers. I also saw the Navy version of the F111 fly. Grumman built the Navy version. Sad it was a total flop, not Grummans fault , they wanted to design the plane alone from the start. They would have gotten an early version of the F14.
The Original movie is my favorite aviation movie, and one of my favorite war flicks of all times. Top Gun did nothing for me at all, to over the top, very unrealistic, Toko-Ri is 100% realism, t When I was in the USAF for 10 years I loved to talk to old time retired or served as Aircrew .And when Top Gun came out and I would ask if they liked it, and if they had ever seen The Bridges at Toko-Ri most by far would say Toko-Ri was reality, no over hype on the flight or action scenes, solid realism, good movie. And say it's for those who never flew, Top Gun is how you imagined it would be, ok or fun film . I agree with the old vets. This Mash-up or Editing or whatever it is called improves the original, even with the credits, Please do the whole movie. That would be amazing in my 61 year old war flick mind!
I have always wanted to see something less. Nice to find out it existed. In fact, I think a remake of this move would not go amiss. Of course, it would be the same war and the same time period, but maybe use Banshees instead of Panthers, like they did in the book. I would cast Mel Gibson, Julianne Moore, Gene Hackman, and Joe Pantoliano.
Excellent, video, an idea of approaching, the 1st top gun A (Bridges at Toko Ri) was strong. Very often with 2nd top gun thinking about the past time it was natural for me to think about the temporal distance, it is certainly a pity that in the film the main character died. It would have been nice if in making introduction to the course there had been the interpretation of one of these actors remembering the events of the Korea war ....
Apologies my ass, this is real navy everyone else is a computer systems operator, with mode 1 capability to land using magic carpet and AI to see through the bottom of the aircraft. This was real seat of the pants down in the weeds, having a knife fight in a telephone booth, and fly by wire then was cables to your flight controls, not to mention no GPS no no INS, no Sat comm no HUD no HOTAS, no link 16, no network management, no radar and dead reckoning back to the boat. God bless Korean war vets.
I agree 100% I asked my uncle about the top gun movie when it was on and he said it was pretty far fetched . By the way he is THE pilot of the Brubaker plane in the movie. He retired a Captain and flew off aircraft carriers for real in Korea. Top Gun is a fun movie though. I liked it. He and my Aunt got to go to the premier showing in Hollywood.
I had no idea. Curious so I found this on Wikipedia: He won Academy Awards for Best Art Direction for To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) and The Sting (1973). He was also nominated for Academy Awards for his work on Vertigo (1958) and Unforgiven (1992).
Actually it was safer. It was done in case something went wrong with the catapult and/or engine and they went into the drink. Made getting out of the cockpit a bit easier and quicker.
Director Mark Robson made an excellent film from what is mostly a disappointing, downer novel by James Mishener. The film won the Academy Award for a well-deserved effort at special effects along with 2 other nominations.
William Holden would not have taken thieir call or opened the envelope had he been there. What an absurd comparison. Mucho Class vs the pretender cult guy.
" Highway " should've STARTED when Holden LAUNCHED ......otherwise, BETTER than Top Whatever , One or Two ....... This and Flight of the Intruder , A-Ok in my book 😁👍❤🇺🇸
There is a link to the Bridges at Toko-Ri and Topgun.
The movie is filmed and set onboard the USS Oriskany
In the 1st Topgun movie When Maverick is at Vipers house and is in the living room he sees the photo of Viper and Duke (Mavericks dad) together and viper sees that maverick notices the photo he tells maverick that both he and his dad served together onboard the USS Oriskany.
Oriskany was part Task force 11 during the Vietnam war and operated in designated area Yankee Station which from 64-66 operated about 100 miles east of Da Nang in south Vietnam. Maverick's dad was shot down on November 5th 1965 as part of VF-51 who flew secret combat missions between 1964 and 1965 over Laos and Cambodia. A week after the events mentioned Oriskany received orders to depart for Subic bay which it arrived at on November 30th before returning to san Diego.
Task force 77 was also the designated taskforce that the USS Oriskany served with during the Korean war and is mentioned in the movie
I didn't know that. Thanks!
"The bridges at Toko-ri" is a great movie, and one of the most beautifully "shot" war movies of all times! A must watch!😉
The straight-wing F9F Panthers were beautiful planes.
Yes. Interesting that Mavericks F-14 is also a Grumman design
Y mientras el F9F Panther fue el primer cazabombardeo a reacción de la legendaria "Iron Works" de Grumman...el F-14 Tomcat fue el último Caza interceptor de Grumman...
Tomcat: "That's my grandpa." 🥺
That’s my ship. USS Oriskany CVA-34!
Did you ever meet Cmdr Mike "Viper" Metcalf?
That was my dad's ship too, from 1960 to 1964.
As a fan of both movies, I had the biggest foolish grin on my face the whole time. Thank you for this gem!
Absolutely love this! The Bridges at Toko-Ri was the Top Gun of the 1950s. Love the mash up!
Fantastic. Bridges of Toko-Ri was the impetus of my father's going in to the USAF in 1954 - until '84. I've always thought of Top Gun as the modern-day Toko-Ri picture - incidentally, William Holden's absolute favorite of all his performances (i.e., over Bridge over the River Kwai, Wild Bunch, Sunset Boulevard, S.O.B, Stalag 17, etc...). - Excellent mash-up. Thanks for making it!
After top gun we had an influx into the AF side, pretty funny watching fellow mechanics doing carrier launches on an AF flightline lol
I used to do that same walk out to the bow that Bill Holden did when I was an Aviation Ordnanceman (Red Shirt) on board the U.S.S. Oriskany CVA-34 in the Tonkin Gulf in Vietnam in 1970...
I have a cousin that served on the Oriskany during the Vietnam War. Thanks for serving our country!
Me too g div red shirt 67 thru 70. BUFF was my handle. Were you squadron? I was between the cats during launch.
I was G-Division Red Shirt, operated the bomb elevator under the starboard JBD (jet blast deflector) IYAOYAS!
It was only 20 years from Panthers to Tomcats. It's been 50 years since the Tomcat entered service. Ouch! .... Where did we get such men?
It was made in 1954. The Navy background extras were in the war the year before! they are playing themselves.
This is a great presentation. There was a light show in Texas in 2001 featuring an F-4 Phantom flown by Gen Steve Ritchie USAF Ace retired. His F-4 flow by to this song at the moment of the Tomcat being launched he flow by. Something else as this is a superb intro.
F-4 Phantom bar none my favorite.
Sorry flow no flew. O met the General a few years ago and told him about it and stated no one told about it until I did. He was happy about the coordination which was a mistake, but a good one.
@@Foomba “Death from Above”! - I grew up hanging out with my dad at the end of the LETO flight line, watching 401st TFW F-4s come and go. Saw an “elephant walk” once too!
@@DanielPineau I had to look up "elephant walk". 😀 I saw F4s for the first time at Alameda Naval Air Station. That was almost 60 years ago.
Awesome parody and excellently done. This is one of my favourite military aviation films, and the music from Top Gun is one of the few things I liked about it, so a terrific combination as far as I'm concerned. Massive fan of the early jets, and the F9F's in this were so beautifully photographed, always a pleasure to watch. Great stuff!
This is well done. Better film than Top Gun. Where do we get such men?
In this case - they called them back after their service in WWII.
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This was the Top Gun of my dads era
Wow very well done! Bravo Zulu!! Brought to you by Grumman Ironworks, Philadelphia Naval Ship Yards, Douglas Aircraft Co and Piseki Helicopters!!
Both movies featured the Iron Works. My dad worked there his whole life. The F9F Panther, and especially the swept wing version. The Cougar were my favorite aircraft. Saw them both at an air show at Grumman in 1968.
It featured the Blue Angels flying F11 Tigers.
Thank you for this! Great tribute to one of the most underrated films of all time. I almost wish you had included the flak storm they flew through….twice if I remember it correctly. Thank you!
No apologies dude. This is an awesome movie and it really paved the way in Hollywood and the public for great movies like Top Gun. My mom used to sit in the movie theatre watching this movie and praying her fiancé would come home alive from the Korean War, which he did and why I am alive today.
Happy for your Mom and you that he made it back alive.
The F9F Panther: the original X-Wing fighter in the original Death Star "canyon run"! Must have been very impresive to a teenaged George Lucas! Thanks for the great video!
And heavily influenced by The Dam Busters attack on the Möhne too!
In James Michener's novel - which the film is based on - the squadron flew McDonnell F2H Banshees which were also used in carrier-based combat during the Korean War.
Great re-mix. Gotta watch that movie again.
lOVE IT, 70 years ago as of today!
Amazing retro combination. Thank you fot this footage
Damn, this is impressive! A clever comparison. I watched this movie as a boy on tv. About time to watch it again.
This was a realistic, gut wrenching view of the limitations of technology and the ultimate human cost of war. His plane was taken down by relatively primitive AA gunfire, a lucky hit that caused a fuel leak. Once on the ground he became the hunted on a primal level. Just brutal, the fear and anguish. Great film, great performances all around. Great cinematography.
I really like take .Musically and Visually.Really fine work.
How the heck I only found this today, two of my favourite movies combined! You are a legend!
Make sure you see the actual film. Some great actors - William Holden, Grace Kelly, and Mickey Rooney in a great role.
The few seconds before he starts the helo engine, Rooney looks like a pilot, not an actor.
Earl Holliman is still with us in 2024 and just turned 96.
WOW! There's something timeless about that opening music and flight ops aboard an aircraft carrier. ❤️😎🫡👍
Hey Don, That was Cool Beans!!! A GREAT work on mixing the song of a Great movie with the OUTSTANDING movie of Bridges at Toko-Ri!
Oh MY G O D !! Followed this 'other person's Channel' on YT and noticed a clip of this movie ( which I also enjoyed ). AND Lo-and-Behold.... as I was getting ready to 'comment' ...... I ALREADY DID...How weird is That!!?? Commenting again Jan 2024!!
I just KNEW someone would've done this!
The water looks cold every time I see this movie!
It was and remains cold to this day!
@@jamesmunoz9090 Amen. We did a night unrep practice off Korea in winter. It was so cold that the salt sparay was freezing when it hit the non skid.
@@jaimeosbourn3616 The real thing indeed!
@@jamesmunoz9090 Brrrr
You watch deck operations on a carrier today and it’s a tightly knit dance on the edge of death. You watch this movie and you wonder how ANYONE survived. Everything seems so… rough. Crude. But it worked and kept working. I love the Panther but it’s so underpowered! As were most jets in those times.
Great movie. And a well done video here! 👍
How was it underpowered? It used the same engine as the MiG-15.
Wow, those shooters sure look casual compared to today.
This is the first of the four great jet-war films (followed by "Flight of the Intruder," and the two Top Gun flicks).
Wow, the Oriskany. Just like Viper served on later.
This is fantastic.
The early days of jets were dangerous times to fly. The jet engine simply wouldn't spool up fast for you. Pilots found this out only when....they needed to spool it up fast. Usually on a go-around or aborting a landing. I can only imagine how tough it was to do this as a Naval Aviator where you're dealing with the old straight deck carriers that were years behind the planes they were carrying.
The Bridges at Toko-Ri is a great flick too.
I was just about to do this. Yours is much better than I imagined. Awesome!
That this doesn't have three squillion views is criminal. Thanks for this, stay well.
Outstanding!
That is one beautiful plane
OUTSTANDING!!!
The ironic thing is that at the time William Holden played in several war movies as a soldier who hated war and couldn't wait to be out of it. Here, in Bridge Over River Kwai and Stalag 17 off the top of my head.
He was in a lot of good movies. Stalag 17 is a favorite.
Well done Sir.
Jolly Good Show👌
WELL DONE BRAVO ZULU
Beautifully done Sir!
Thanks!
If you live in Orange county, Southern California, there are two Grumman Panthers that you can go sit in and play on if you like. They are real Panthers, but covered in gunite. They are in public parks, one in Costa Mesa and the other in Anaheim
I remember the one in Anaheim. Nice to know it's still there.
This represents nearly the oldest phase of the Jet War. These pilots are actually wearing the old pre-composit metal crash helmets! ✈️
I gotta watch this! Without the annoyance of Kenny Logins
I loved this movie!!
Operating from a pitching carrier deck in frigid seas to make bombing runs against intense AAA fire in hostile, rugged mountainous terrain…where do we get such men, indeed!!!
True heroes! RIP!!!
Remarkable!!! This is amazing!! Well done!
This is great - thanks for doing it.
Great job, the original Top Gun
Both featured the Iron Works, Grumman.
I hadn't heard the term and found an article that explained it. The article featured Joe Foss a WW2 US Navy pilot that flew in the Pacific Theater. Joe Foss scored all 26 of his victories flying the Grumman F4F Wildcat.
@Foomba yea but the Navy wanted something better, so Leroy and Grumman came up with the F6F Hellcat
Scored over 5000 kills in WW2. My dad worked there his whole life. Love the swept wing version of the F9F Panther. The F9F Cougar. Entered the war too late to see action in Korea. Saw it fly along with all Grumman planes at an air show at Grummans Calverton plant when I was a kid in 1968.
@@RobertGraziose I have only been to one air show my entire life. The air show at the Calverton plant had to be very impressive.
@@Foomba yes especially for a 13 year old kid. The Blue Angels were flying Grumman F11 tigers. I also saw the Navy version of the F111 fly. Grumman built the Navy version. Sad it was a total flop, not Grummans fault , they wanted to design the plane alone from the start. They would have gotten an early version of the F14.
The Original movie is my favorite aviation movie, and one of my favorite war flicks of all times. Top Gun did nothing for me at all, to over the top, very unrealistic, Toko-Ri is 100% realism, t When I was in the USAF for 10 years I loved to talk to old time retired or served as Aircrew .And when Top Gun came out and I would ask if they liked it, and if they had ever seen The Bridges at Toko-Ri most by far would say Toko-Ri was reality, no over hype on the flight or action scenes, solid realism, good movie. And say it's for those who never flew, Top Gun is how you imagined it would be, ok or fun film . I agree with the old vets. This Mash-up or Editing or whatever it is called improves the original, even with the credits, Please do the whole movie. That would be amazing in my 61 year old war flick mind!
I have always wanted to see something less. Nice to find out it existed.
In fact, I think a remake of this move would not go amiss. Of course, it would be the same war and the same time period, but maybe use Banshees instead of Panthers, like they did in the book. I would cast Mel Gibson, Julianne Moore, Gene Hackman, and Joe Pantoliano.
Excellent, video, an idea of approaching, the 1st top gun A (Bridges at Toko Ri) was strong. Very often with 2nd top gun thinking about the past time it was natural for me to think about the temporal distance, it is certainly a pity that in the film the main character died. It would have been nice if in making introduction to the course there had been the interpretation of one of these actors remembering the events of the Korea war ....
This was the Top Gun of its era…
Thats cool the Tomcats grandfather
Loved it! Bravissimo!
Very good! Very good indeed : )
Great movie!
The real top guns
Sensacional! pena que faltou a cena do ataque, numa época que o Dogfight ainda era a regra... Parabéns pelo vídeo e obrigado!
Bridges at Toko Ri- More planes, more flying, No sweaty guys with out shirts. Much better acting.
Well done McLean.
Back at ya. 👍
Really good, well done.
The music made this film better😉👍
No. It didn’t
Love it!
Apologies my ass, this is real navy everyone else is a computer systems operator, with mode 1 capability to land using magic carpet and AI to see through the bottom of the aircraft. This was real seat of the pants down in the weeds, having a knife fight in a telephone booth, and fly by wire then was cables to your flight controls, not to mention no GPS no no INS, no Sat comm no HUD no HOTAS, no link 16, no network management, no radar and dead reckoning back to the boat. God bless Korean war vets.
I agree 100% I asked my uncle about the top gun movie when it was on and he said it was pretty far fetched . By the way he is THE pilot of the Brubaker plane in the movie. He retired a Captain and flew off aircraft carriers for real in Korea. Top Gun is a fun movie though. I liked it. He and my Aunt got to go to the premier showing in Hollywood.
LMFAO OMG 💀💀💀💀
Love it. Respect. 👍👍
Sweet!
Much better film tbh 😮
Very cool LOL... good fun
Excelente felicitaciones
Dennis Weaver flew Wildcats in ww2
I had no idea. Thanks
Henry Bumstead. Great designer!
I had no idea. Curious so I found this on Wikipedia: He won Academy Awards for Best Art Direction for To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) and The Sting (1973). He was also nominated for Academy Awards for his work on Vertigo (1958) and Unforgiven (1992).
War movies seldom end well for William Holden . . . Horse Soliders, Bridges at Toko Ri, Bridge on the River Kwi, Stalag 17
Maravillosa.Carlos Avila.Venezuela.
So you're telling me they launched from catapult with canopy opened !!??? Heavy cojones !!
Actually it was safer. It was done in case something went wrong with the catapult and/or engine and they went into the drink. Made getting out of the cockpit a bit easier and quicker.
Director Mark Robson made an excellent film from what is mostly a disappointing, downer novel by James Mishener. The film won the Academy Award for a well-deserved effort at special effects along with 2 other nominations.
Wowww
They're all the same breed.
Nice but we need the YANKEE STATION version
Lana
Lana
LANAAAAA!!!!!
“Danger Zone!”
GRUMMAN
I had not made the connection until reading your comment. Grumman F9F Panther >>> Grumman F-14 Tomcat. 👍
Lt. Harry Brubaker, lawyer from Denver, Colorado, recalled Navy pilot, ends up dead in a stinking ditch in Korea.
didnt remember Dennis Weaver
Top Gun meets Star Wars
a much much better movie than that romance/bromance top gun.
The best thing about this movie is that the Koreans make Mickey Rooney shut up.
More like the original Flight of the Intruder movie since both films are similar. Bombers make history!
I've always those fighter jets.
❤
Awesome stuff! You have a typo at 2:03 "Music ScoBe"
Shoot! that darn typo ruined the whole sequence for me...
@@MrGPMcMahon Gonna be embarrassing at Oscar time.
:-)
👍👍👍👍👍👍
William Holden would not have taken thieir call or opened the envelope had he been there. What an absurd comparison. Mucho Class vs the pretender cult guy.
Nice (and as Frederic March asks: where do we get such men…)
More like "Top Muskets"
" Highway " should've STARTED when Holden LAUNCHED ......otherwise, BETTER than Top Whatever , One or Two ....... This and Flight of the Intruder , A-Ok in my book 😁👍❤🇺🇸
Kenny Loggins time traveled to the 50s
Why apologize? That was real footage of people flying into a real war.
Where's Ted Williams?
He was stationed on the USS Valley Forge (CV-45) and the USS Boxer (CV-21) and flew the same F9F Panther.