@@Kaltag2278 As a fellow spectrum rider, I hear you, friend -- and all too often, it's the same drive to have a perfect trophy-offspring that ultimately underlies those who would also prefer a dead child to, say, a gay or (worse, to them) a trans child. (I speak here, alas, from experience, having had a mother who firmly rejected me as a "freak" for all of these parts of myself -- but seemed to value me on report-card day, when she could brag about my straight As to people who didn't really matter; enough said.)
It may help the last caller to remember that the institutions he doesn’t trust are run by fellow humans. The larger the organization, the more humans know about it. I believe that our neighbors and friends who work at these institutions as civil employees want what’s best for their neighbors, families and friends across our entire country. It is my hope that in this era of instant communication and fact availability, rational goodness prevails.
Very true, and one must also recognize that the enemies of America will actively challenge any scientific breakthrough discovered by an American scientist. Not only to set the scientific record straight, but to embarrass the scientist, the American institution and America overall. The fact that the scientific communities of enemy nations achieved the same analysis of the Covid-19 pandemic is an extremely strong indication that there was no American government conspiracy against the citizens of the U.S. Scientists throughout the world recognized the danger of the virus, researched and developed similar vaccines to combat the virus, put forth the the same recommendations of masks and social distancing and they all reported a similar decline in infections when the vaccines and protocols were implemented.
When school started after summer I overheard some parents talking about how their child had had whooping cough and how they wished there was something that could be done to prevent it as it was awful seeing their child suffer, It was ridiculous they just look at each other shrugging their shoulders like they couldn't think of anything.
Instead of deciding for themselves whether or not to vac their kids. Instead they let some dumb ass public figure,with no knowledge, tell them what to do.
@@damianpinnington5477 is there a possibility they didn’t know about it, to be honest I only heard about it a week ago. Maybe that’s because I don’t have kids, but there are also other possibilities,bad diagnosis by a doctor, and f’ed up health care system causing the parents to not get a second opinion. Did you let them know about it, and they poo poo’ed the idea?
I love how whenever you made a succinct and sober point, Daniel just went off on a tangent about semantics. That dude didn't want a constructive conversation. People like him make me sad for our future.
One of my 1st grd. classmates had an older brother on a stretcher, because the polio vaccine hadn't come out. I read about the blowback to Jenner using cowpox to vaccinate against smallpox. People would rather be sick or dead than prevent the stuff. Thankfully I've never had MMR, polio, smallpox, and whatever else I vaccines I had to have so I could go to school.
I'm visiting the US right now and quite surprised by the amount of ads that pop up during videos I watch on a regular basis in my home country. A religous ad popped up during this vid.
That happens a lot. Whatever system is used to determine ads, it will often push ads for something onto videos likely to be anti-that thing, for some unknown reason.
It's difficult to exchange ideas when one person is set on sending and refusing to receive any information. Hearing someone complain that no one is listening while refusing to listen delivers my daily dose of irony. Way to hang in there and try communicating Seth!!
The caller Daniel thought something he could not quite deliver. When someone says to you ‘you’ve said so many (wrong) things, I can’t give you an example’ they are trying to stay away from a specific point on purpose. Daniel seemed to try to go to the ‘gotcha’ points over and over again. His ‘the climate would change even if humans weren’t here’ is true. But it has nothing to do with our current predicament.
Also, educate yourself by paying attention to actual experts. The U.S. population is basically scientific illiterate. They'd rather listen to faith healers and other conmen than learn from those with the actual knowledge.
Re another technical/medical term for the penis: if you are down with Latin, _membrum virile_ (literally, "virile member") has been used in older medical textbooks for male genitalia; the euphemistic "member," in English, also has some current use (notably in the memorable, punning simile "white as a Klan member's member," from a long-forgotten if witty source), as does "manhood," which makes for far more of a biology-is-destiny vibe than is necessary or useful. And if the noun in question feels odd to you, the word derives directly from the Greek word for "tail," so blame ancient anatomists for that choice of nomenclature. As a huge fan of your channel, Seth, I'm honored to be able to serve a brother atheist with a bit of linguistic knowledge; keep up your clever, thoughtful work, and all good to you & Natalie.
Oh my goodness! The last caller wanted to be listened to, but didn't want to listen! Interrupting constantly. He was probably offended when you hung up, but constructive dialog was not hsppening.
Phallus. You can always use phallus instead, Seth. LOL 😆 I’m with you on not loving the word penis, and I don’t know why. It just sounds awkward and dorky, has a strange mouth feel- pun not intended. Or intended if you prefer. 🤣
@@Ashaliyeva Delightful mouth-feel joke there, friend -- and, yes, "phallus" works too in context, even if its major usage leans toward the literary and/or psychoanalytic. BTW, the amateur linguist in me feels compelled to point out as well that "dork" is also a word (thought to derive from Celtic roots) whose original denotation was, yes, "penis," so I suppose there's no escaping the man-root, as it were, in discourse.
According to a book I read years ago, there are over 200 different slang terms for "penis" in the American tongue. Tallywhacker is one of my favorites. There's also John Thomas. The latter sounds proper, meaning that it won't trigger any flags when you post a comment with it.
Yes! Phallus is the word I use. I'm not a traditionally educated person, but I like reading so when I have used that word, most people didn't know what I was talking about so to further avoid using 'penis' I'd have to say 'male genitalia '.
Daniel is not an honest interlocutor. Seth, you made a valiant effort, but in the end I agreed with your decision to stop entertaining his half baked narratives.
Daniel's problem in a nutshell is that he doesn't understand the difference between argument from authority and respect for credentials. I don't think people with a PhD are the only people who should be able to talk about something. But if your uncle on Facebook says they're all wrong, and doesn't have any evidence for why, guess who I'm going to believe? Daniel is mad about having to establish credibility before experts will debate him personally 😢
Absolutely! I've been saying this the past few years. If you choose a career in politics or the media, you lose some of your first amendment rights. You should not be able to intentionally lie or mislead and call it hyperbole. People look to you for the facts, period.
I hate people who talk for over a minute with no interruptions then complain that they can’t get a word in edge wise… also… I’m on 1.75x and im even saying slow the fuck down and be calm!
Underlying questions...why would the wealthy want the population to remain undereducated and denying the very science that has improved lives for generations? Additionally, why would the same wealthy heavily promote blind obedience to religion? Please, deeply consider these questions. Be well, be kind to one another❤
They want the masses undereducated and when their religious, it's even easier to control them with fear. They assume that some will have enough intelligence and/or luck to break through all the obstacles that are holding most people back and they're fine with that.
Do your homework. For one, an uneducated population doesn’t know the wealthy can make and use laws against them to benefit the oligarchs. Good example is trickle down economics. Look into that. Another is the wealthy and power brokers use religion for their same gain because now you have “god” involved telling you the same. Since 1980, 60 % of the population or more can just barely make it in life. This was all predicted by the economists . Your oligarchs and religions told you the opposite.
Blind obedience to religion prepares you to believe other stuff "on command". Gets you accustomed to take one's word as true just because he has some image of authority. That makes you more susceptible to believe things like advertisement, buy some product just because you saw it on TV and the guy (the actor) was so enthusiastic. Or on the documentary channels, believe all these reports that are fantastically inscened with lots of experts that tell you God is real, aliens come to earth, free energy and and and other nonsense. "They" (a good portion of the ultra-wealthy business elite) love to have people that are great at exactly that task you need him for and NOTHING else - what we germans call "Fachidiot". The less he knows about anything else, the more he is dependant on you and the job you give him. Especially do not teach them critical thinking, to look over the rim of your dish plate, so that you can maintain a healthy dose of scepticism AND a healthy dose of openness as you know how to quickly factcheck some claim. Obviously dozens of millions of US people have not the ability to look at Trump beyond his entertainment facade and how he appeals to ANY audience with what these want to hear, that he is a saleman and actor in TV advertisements, that his slogans have been hot air hundred,s thousands of times. That he ranges between "That is only because of ME, ME, ME" (not of what he did, but that he exists) and "I am not responsible for ANYthing", sometimes about an issue in minutes. In short, that such a person is absolutely untrustworthy and totally unpredictable, outright dangerous. Quote from Trump: "I love the poorly educated".
My thoughts for Daniel...I have watched almost every episode of Grey's Anatomy, I am furious that Cardiothoracic surgeons don't consult me on difficult cases. I mean despite not going to medical school, I certainly have an opinion too!
I will also add, for the conversation around the 50 minute mark- I heard a new argument someone made recently that might tie it all together. Paul keeps using these weird keywords that he would only be using if he had gone through a specific ritual in Jewish mysticism that is wrapped up into several other practices we now call Kabbalah. Back then, the Jews had just come out of the revolts against Rome & were working to repair their relationship. They were considering the ethical dilemma of whether or not all Romans counted as Jews & whether outsiders would or should convert to Judiasm, but when they tried, very few outsiders were interested in converting. During the revolts, several leaders had claimed to be the Messiah & this was started around the end of the reign of Herod by a Rabbi named Judas of Galilee, who founded a new order of priests called the Zealots. After the revolts ended, they threw Judas & the Zealot order under the bus & outlawed every form of thought in Rabbinical study that favored Judas' teachings- which included the form of mysticism in question. So, here is the funny part. This mysticism had a cultural memory of polytheism amongst the Jews & professed that Yahweh was secret two gods at the same time named the Father & the son (El & Yahweh), that they could take you on a tour of heaven to meet God & there your mind, body & soul would be transformed & an angel would be assigned to teach you everything anyone could possibly ever know about Judaism. By the end of the ritual, you should be a fully trained Rabbi, with all the knowledge of years of Rabbinical school imbued within you all at once. So Paul comes out of this thinking he is a fully trained Rabbi, immediately confuses the Messiah with the Son, mixed together about five different Jewish heroes, including what seems to have been a very influential & beloved Rabbi named Ieshua Ben Hananiah who was still alive at the time into a since person named Ieshu who was the Messiah & also gets into fights with several other such leaders popping up all around the exact same time for teaching false information.
Regarding flat earth, the "Final Experiment" has just been performed, where a bunch of flat earthers were shipped to Antarctica to experience the midnight sun (that would be impossible on the FE model). Quite interesting
The last caller rambles on and then accuses Seth of "talking too long"... Sure he's mad that he _feels_ like he's not being heard, he thinks his questions aren't being answered, when he probably is being heard AND answered and just ignores it.
51:00 This guy rambles all over multiple subjects for minutes at a time, and yet wants to criticize you for talking too long for him to answer. Curious
Yeah the last guy was another one where I believe he's lying about being something. "My field of research". Please tell me what field of research uses the logic of "If you don't personally have access to 100% of all data ever collected, and haven't personally reviewed it all, then it can't be afforded any significant level of trust". Complete BS. He wanted to soapbox. Also his take on global warming research. Maybe it would warm up anyway? Did you misunderstand the whole point about believing something based on the weight of evidence or do you believe the scientists are just guessing? There's no way he has any even remotely advanced science education. He's just convinced he's so much smarter than everyone else, that they just don't see what he sees.
Bro im seconding the shin megami tensei games! I will note that the games have different alignment based endings 4 and 4A are on the 3ds, so you might need an emulator. SMT5 has 2 versions on the modern consoles and i think that one is peak gameplay, but the story isnt as good as 4. Some of the best turn based combat ive played. 5 is also very referential to smt3, but its not needed to play 3.
When we ask the theist for the evidence of just one of their claims, we either find that their evidence does not meet the definition of evidence, or their evidence leads back to the Bible, or scripture as their accepted authority, which does not meet the standard of evidence. When a scientist makes a claim, whether they represent the scientific community solely, or they work to provide data to governments, we find that the evidence for their claims is legitimate evidence and that evidence can be traced back to their original hypothesis. The research, their experiments and their conclusions can be verified and tested. In the majority of cases, your conclusions will match the conclusions of the scientist through logical analysis. If you discover a conflict in the scientists data, they will need to rationalize the conflict, or dismiss their claim.
Regarding the flat earth boy friend: If this boyfriend is open to changing his mind if presented with evidence, maybe you are ok. Decide whether you can trust this person to make good, rational decisions for you if it ever comes to that.
25:40 I've been in a cult, against my will, a real cult, one which it is very hard to leave - in a very physical way: you are supervised all the time, even at night sort-of, and you cannot leave the premises. All the brainwashing techniques you can think of were employed, except for direct physical torture - but I'm sure it has happened, it's just not the standard way. You were physically brutalized don't get me wrong, but through the useless and extremely physically demanding tasks you were forced to accomplish from dawn till dusk. Every morning when I woke up I was depressed to still exist. Obviously it was a deviant organization rooted in the Catholic church. Not in the US. I found my way out eventually, I'm fine, the trauma mostly subsided even though some stuff is still holding me back. I don't take offense when people loosely use the term cult, but I do agree with the caller that even though cults and religions go hand in hand, it probably doesn't do good to anyone to call anything with a bunch of rules and a charismatic leader a cult. My point of view might be skewed from yours, Seth, by my experience of religion. In my country Catholicism (the dominant religion, even though most people are atheists) is extremely relaxed in general. It does quite often turn to hell in small groups which unite around it, this is true. But from what I'm seeing on RUclips about the US, our relation to religion is way less cultish than yours, I think. So maybe you're not abusing the term that much, in the context of the US at least.
I don't think the discussion is bannable or should be... Wether someone agrees or disagrees about cults and cultism and or how all religions are cults.. But they are clearly cults. Every church, of every religion is a cult.. those involved are in a cult, the ideologies and concepts and practices are of cultism. Not every part is dangerous or harmful and not everyone is as harmful as another part. But it still is cultism. It qualifies under the BITE model..it does have behavior control, information control, thought control and emotional control. Just because some aspects are not as harmful or it has developed into a religious institution ..it does not step out of being a cult and being in cultism ideologies. Just because someone can leave or step away does not mean it is not a cult. Mormonism is clearly a cult..I walked away from it.. me being able to walk away and escape it doesn't change it from being a cult. Often those in cults don't see it as a cult..that's why they are comfortable in it. Very few people go in looking and saying...I think I will join a cult today .😂 I think the exposure of how each religion and denomination is a cult .. exposing the areas that make it a cult.. educating people what a cult is, what cultism is and how to identify cult ideology is very critical to taking another huge leap forward to getting people to step away from religion and its ideologicalisms and beliefs and following in it. Make them aware, get them to start looking. All religions, in all denominations qualify as a cult.. pure and simple.. clear as day. You can test the bite model to ideologies and concepts and things of beliefs held taught..the way it is taught. Positions held, ideologies about things, the way they govern themselves and followers..the ideals behind all these things.. you will clearly see they fit all areas of the bite model and taking each individual specific area, subject, and point as a score card and scoring it on a scale..all of these areas will score in various areas of the bite model and in every area multiple times. I shared this before in a discussion with someone who argued the same point as the caller. I shared that even if the test group scored just one point in each area of the bite model . It is a cult. It does not matter if you compared it to the one that scored 100 points in each area or ten points or five ..or a few points here and there and more points in one area and just one point in this one spot.. it scored points in each category area and thus it is a cult Give it the label it deserves and fits.. educate people about cultism in general and what it is..then guide them through the steps to watch and put whatever denomination of whatever religion through the tests.. let them score it.. get them to be honest. Honest to themselves and about the subject..be neutral about it. I did this to a friend who was a Protestant Christian and had him write up a test scale of questions and areas to each of the categories of the bite model and sub categories.. branch it out.. then I told him to test it with Mormonism...then Catholicism and the areas of other Christianity... Methodist, Lutheran, Calvinism, Protestant, JW, and others.. He saved his for last and got only half way through and started to see his has all to most of the same answers and scoring as all the others. Now he is still a believer..but it shook him up.. he rather just forget about it than address it
I think some people, like Seth, use the most expensive definition of religion. I don’t consider those expansive beliefs as religion, they are beliefs or communities (ie the UU’s). Religions are cults because religion needs the control, the coercion, and the power disparity to make it a religion separate from a belief system or cultural group.
Sociology makes an easy and accurate distinction between a religion and a cult. Religion is a belief system that offers believers a way to view reality and accepts that there are other valid views. A cult believes that it has the exclusive and only valid answers for reality and believes that all who don't see it their way are wrong and damned in some way. By this definition, only Christianity among the major religions is a cult. In the text it clearly says the ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER IS THROUGH THE SON....it is an exclusive view of belief that is undeniable. Islam believes itself to be the "final" revelation, but does not believe Jews, Christians etc. to be excluded.
In original Eslaum you get what you deserve. The Truth/Justice...Goodness is above all/Allauh/Lord or call Him/It whatever you want, a true believer does not love even their own son if the son acts in opposition to Allauh, so if his or her own son wrongs a stranger then the true believer protects the stranger and punishes the guilty son. In the Qur'an Allauh did not even order Ebrahem or Abraham to slaughter his innocent son. Islam on TV with a moon symbol is fake, its Judaism and Freemasonry. Also, blind following is forbidden in Eslaum as it is same as worshiping, it is idolatry/sherk, there is no "sheikhs" in Eslaum, there is no rabbis/experts/gods/masters and laymen like in Judaism. Images are not forbidden in Eslaum. The Zion "news" is lies. There is no evidence of invisible thing floating around that can make you die if you dont let the sorcerers inject something in your blood, just like there is no evidence that Osama destroyed Jew York with civilian airplanes, and he even said in a video that he and Afghan people did not do it, and then the Zionists killed him in 2001 and used an actor with a rubber mask or whatever to say crazy things on TV. Kabbalah teaches conformism. USA, Russia, Saudi, Iran, China...are all one same thing acting to be different and enemies of each other. Biden, Trump, Putin, etc are actors. The elections are not only rigged like that actor Trump said and then won the elections trying to convince you that elections are not rigged and Democracy is real. The elections are completely fake, it is a TV show. They have these actors to act like clowns, and then the Zionists associate these clowns and their dumb supporters and their stupid and fake conspiracy theories to real people who were saying for years that elections are fake and that the news is literally fake. Palestine is a trick. We are ALL occupied.
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Seth, you have the patience of a goddamn saint with Daniel because I think I would at a certain point just go "wtf are smokin, my guy?!"
As an autistic person it makes me sad to think some people would rather have a dead kid than an autistic one.
@@Kaltag2278 As a fellow spectrum rider, I hear you, friend -- and all too often, it's the same drive to have a perfect trophy-offspring that ultimately underlies those who would also prefer a dead child to, say, a gay or (worse, to them) a trans child. (I speak here, alas, from experience, having had a mother who firmly rejected me as a "freak" for all of these parts of myself -- but seemed to value me on report-card day, when she could brag about my straight As to people who didn't really matter; enough said.)
❤ I have an autistic son, and I would never trade him. He is such an amazing individual.
vaccines DON'T CAUSE AUTISM. yes, autism is certainly far better than a dead child.
AMAZING POINT! The Christians would also rather have a dead kid than a gay one!
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It may help the last caller to remember that the institutions he doesn’t trust are run by fellow humans. The larger the organization, the more humans know about it. I believe that our neighbors and friends who work at these institutions as civil employees want what’s best for their neighbors, families and friends across our entire country. It is my hope that in this era of instant communication and fact availability, rational goodness prevails.
Very true, and one must also recognize that the enemies of America will actively challenge any scientific breakthrough discovered by an American scientist. Not only to set the scientific record straight, but to embarrass the scientist, the American institution and America overall.
The fact that the scientific communities of enemy nations achieved the same analysis of the Covid-19 pandemic is an extremely strong indication that there was no American government conspiracy against the citizens of the U.S. Scientists throughout the world recognized the danger of the virus, researched and developed similar vaccines to combat the virus, put forth the the same recommendations of masks and social distancing and they all reported a similar decline in infections when the vaccines and protocols were implemented.
When school started after summer I overheard some parents talking about how their child had had whooping cough and how they wished there was something that could be done to prevent it as it was awful seeing their child suffer, It was ridiculous they just look at each other shrugging their shoulders like they couldn't think of anything.
Just hurts your brain doesn't it? My sister is anti-vax. I fear for my nephews 😪
Instead of deciding for themselves whether or not to vac their kids. Instead they let some dumb ass public figure,with no knowledge, tell them what to do.
@@damianpinnington5477 is there a possibility they didn’t know about it, to be honest I only heard about it a week ago. Maybe that’s because I don’t have kids, but there are also other possibilities,bad diagnosis by a doctor, and f’ed up health care system causing the parents to not get a second opinion. Did you let them know about it, and they poo poo’ed the idea?
These skeptics won't trust scientists but they will trust their auto mechanic and their insurance agent.🤦🤦🤦🤦
Amen, people do not know who to trust, they trust holy men just because they say (I am a man of god)?
I love how whenever you made a succinct and sober point, Daniel just went off on a tangent about semantics.
That dude didn't want a constructive conversation.
People like him make me sad for our future.
Yeah, sad for his future😂. Lots of people aren’t like him at all
I'm 5 minutes in and got tears from laughing about the penis/Santa moving around on someone's lawn 😂 🤣
Penis On Earth, Goodwill To Men.
One of my 1st grd. classmates had an older brother on a stretcher, because the polio vaccine hadn't come out. I read about the blowback to Jenner using cowpox to vaccinate against smallpox. People would rather be sick or dead than prevent the stuff. Thankfully I've never had MMR, polio, smallpox, and whatever else I vaccines I had to have so I could go to school.
I'm visiting the US right now and quite surprised by the amount of ads that pop up during videos I watch on a regular basis in my home country. A religous ad popped up during this vid.
The number of ads HAS been ramped up by YT, but not on every video.
That happens a lot. Whatever system is used to determine ads, it will often push ads for something onto videos likely to be anti-that thing, for some unknown reason.
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Yes. I've seen a lot of comments about ads for the ex LIAR-IN-CHIEF being played before left leaning channels.
Great that you're on Bluesky, Seth! It really is a superb alternative to that other place. :)
It's difficult to exchange ideas when one person is set on sending and refusing to receive any information. Hearing someone complain that no one is listening while refusing to listen delivers my daily dose of irony. Way to hang in there and try communicating Seth!!
Keep taking those Covid Boostas. Maybe they'll start working 🤣
The are to busy thinking about what they are going to say next to hear a single word you say
The caller Daniel thought something he could not quite deliver. When someone says to you ‘you’ve said so many (wrong) things, I can’t give you an example’ they are trying to stay away from a specific point on purpose. Daniel seemed to try to go to the ‘gotcha’ points over and over again.
His ‘the climate would change even if humans weren’t here’ is true. But it has nothing to do with our current predicament.
Some good points@@forrestgossett
I can’t understand people who would endanger their child. Think for yourselves!
Also, educate yourself by paying attention to actual experts. The U.S. population is basically scientific illiterate. They'd rather listen to faith healers and other conmen than learn from those with the actual knowledge.
Love the show. Keep it up!!!
Re another technical/medical term for the penis: if you are down with Latin, _membrum virile_ (literally, "virile member") has been used in older medical textbooks for male genitalia; the euphemistic "member," in English, also has some current use (notably in the memorable, punning simile "white as a Klan member's member," from a long-forgotten if witty source), as does "manhood," which makes for far more of a biology-is-destiny vibe than is necessary or useful. And if the noun in question feels odd to you, the word derives directly from the Greek word for "tail," so blame ancient anatomists for that choice of nomenclature.
As a huge fan of your channel, Seth, I'm honored to be able to serve a brother atheist with a bit of linguistic knowledge; keep up your clever, thoughtful work, and all good to you & Natalie.
Oh my goodness! The last caller wanted to be listened to, but didn't want to listen! Interrupting constantly. He was probably offended when you hung up, but constructive dialog was not hsppening.
He was a total sociopath
Was he a troll or an honest spaz? The mind boggles.
He is “sealioning.” As Seth quoted, the perfect is the enemy of the good, and Daniel will not tolerate anything less than the perfect.
This is one of Seth's most spontaneously witty videos. Very funny.
Phallus. You can always use phallus instead, Seth. LOL 😆
I’m with you on not loving the word penis, and I don’t know why. It just sounds awkward and dorky, has a strange mouth feel- pun not intended. Or intended if you prefer. 🤣
@@Ashaliyeva Delightful mouth-feel joke there, friend -- and, yes, "phallus" works too in context, even if its major usage leans toward the literary and/or psychoanalytic. BTW, the amateur linguist in me feels compelled to point out as well that "dork" is also a word (thought to derive from Celtic roots) whose original denotation was, yes, "penis," so I suppose there's no escaping the man-root, as it were, in discourse.
According to a book I read years ago, there are over 200 different slang terms for "penis" in the American tongue. Tallywhacker is one of my favorites. There's also John Thomas. The latter sounds proper, meaning that it won't trigger any flags when you post a comment with it.
Yes! Phallus is the word I use. I'm not a traditionally educated person, but I like reading so when I have used that word, most people didn't know what I was talking about so to further avoid using 'penis' I'd have to say 'male genitalia '.
Hmm... that's a good alternative, but he asked for a NEW word for it and 'phallus' is a very old word. I suggested 'fuxtick'... What do you think? 😉
Wow!! ... Seth is really in his element here 😅👏❤️😂
Great way to spend a very snowy day in WNY. Thanks Seth.❤
I had to pause the video, every single time you "said dude take a breath", to compose myself from laughter.
Daniel is the kinda guy who calls into an atheist podcast to debate evolution instead of presenting his case to evolution biologists.
I'm surprised you're not familiar with the term phallus. It's a common older term for the penis that's still pretty much in current usage.
@@DrachenGothik666 Older, yes, and mostly technical, be it literary or psychoanalytic -- or embryologic, no kidding.
Seth you are a figurative saint! Daniel - glad you let him talk and then cut him off when he wouldn’t take a breath!😟😜
I getting on Info Wars on his source list.
I don’t think Daniel even stopped talking when he was muted, because when he was unmuted he was mid sentence.
Daniel is not an honest interlocutor. Seth, you made a valiant effort, but in the end I agreed with your decision to stop entertaining his half baked narratives.
👋Seth!💙💙💙👍👍👍
Daniel's problem in a nutshell is that he doesn't understand the difference between argument from authority and respect for credentials. I don't think people with a PhD are the only people who should be able to talk about something. But if your uncle on Facebook says they're all wrong, and doesn't have any evidence for why, guess who I'm going to believe?
Daniel is mad about having to establish credibility before experts will debate him personally 😢
Make LAWS against lying to the public!!
That, more than anything, is what I believe we need. Especially from people in the government and media/news sources.
Absolutely!
I've been saying this the past few years.
If you choose a career in politics or the media, you lose some of your first amendment rights.
You should not be able to intentionally lie or mislead and call it hyperbole.
People look to you for the facts, period.
I hate people who talk for over a minute with no interruptions then complain that they can’t get a word in edge wise… also… I’m on 1.75x and im even saying slow the fuck down and be calm!
Underlying questions...why would the wealthy want the population to remain undereducated and denying the very science that has improved lives for generations? Additionally, why would the same wealthy heavily promote blind obedience to religion? Please, deeply consider these questions. Be well, be kind to one another❤
They want the masses undereducated and when their religious, it's even easier to control them with fear. They assume that some will have enough intelligence and/or luck to break through all the obstacles that are holding most people back and they're fine with that.
Do your homework. For one, an uneducated population doesn’t know the wealthy can make and use laws against them to benefit the oligarchs. Good example is trickle down economics. Look into that. Another is the wealthy and power brokers use religion for their same gain because now you have “god” involved telling you the same. Since 1980, 60 % of the population or more can just barely make it in life. This was all predicted by the economists . Your oligarchs and religions told you the opposite.
Think for yourselves, that’s what your brain is for.
These upperty educated poor people just don't know their place... ;-)
Blind obedience to religion prepares you to believe other stuff "on command". Gets you accustomed to take one's word as true just because he has some image of authority.
That makes you more susceptible to believe things like advertisement, buy some product just because you saw it on TV and the guy (the actor) was so enthusiastic.
Or on the documentary channels, believe all these reports that are fantastically inscened with lots of experts that tell you God is real, aliens come to earth, free energy and and and other nonsense.
"They" (a good portion of the ultra-wealthy business elite) love to have people that are great at exactly that task you need him for and NOTHING else - what we germans call "Fachidiot".
The less he knows about anything else, the more he is dependant on you and the job you give him.
Especially do not teach them critical thinking, to look over the rim of your dish plate, so that you can maintain a healthy dose of scepticism AND a healthy dose of openness as you know how to quickly factcheck some claim.
Obviously dozens of millions of US people have not the ability to look at Trump beyond his entertainment facade and how he appeals to ANY audience with what these want to hear, that he is a saleman and actor in TV advertisements, that his slogans have been hot air hundred,s thousands of times. That he ranges between "That is only because of ME, ME, ME" (not of what he did, but that he exists) and "I am not responsible for ANYthing", sometimes about an issue in minutes.
In short, that such a person is absolutely untrustworthy and totally unpredictable, outright dangerous.
Quote from Trump: "I love the poorly educated".
That last caller is a classic contrarian.
Game recommendation: Baldur's Gate 3. One of the best soundtracks ever, heavy on role-playing, plenty of stuff to explore if you want.
I PLAYED BRAMBLE THE MOUNTAIN KING, i love that game ❤
That's one of the craziest sounding titles I think I've ever seen LOL
Daniel.
What is causing the current global warming 🤔?
I think global warming is caused by man. Others think it's just god hugging us closer.
My thoughts for Daniel...I have watched almost every episode of Grey's Anatomy, I am furious that Cardiothoracic surgeons don't consult me on difficult cases. I mean despite not going to medical school, I certainly have an opinion too!
Bwahaha we made our child (age 20 now) start on the Atari so that he could appreciate how awesome games are now!
Seth, my first gaming console was the Atari 5200 which I enjoyed for a while but eventually got bored with. Traded it for a good used lawn mower.
Good show, Bubs.
I will also add, for the conversation around the 50 minute mark- I heard a new argument someone made recently that might tie it all together. Paul keeps using these weird keywords that he would only be using if he had gone through a specific ritual in Jewish mysticism that is wrapped up into several other practices we now call Kabbalah. Back then, the Jews had just come out of the revolts against Rome & were working to repair their relationship. They were considering the ethical dilemma of whether or not all Romans counted as Jews & whether outsiders would or should convert to Judiasm, but when they tried, very few outsiders were interested in converting. During the revolts, several leaders had claimed to be the Messiah & this was started around the end of the reign of Herod by a Rabbi named Judas of Galilee, who founded a new order of priests called the Zealots. After the revolts ended, they threw Judas & the Zealot order under the bus & outlawed every form of thought in Rabbinical study that favored Judas' teachings- which included the form of mysticism in question.
So, here is the funny part. This mysticism had a cultural memory of polytheism amongst the Jews & professed that Yahweh was secret two gods at the same time named the Father & the son (El & Yahweh), that they could take you on a tour of heaven to meet God & there your mind, body & soul would be transformed & an angel would be assigned to teach you everything anyone could possibly ever know about Judaism. By the end of the ritual, you should be a fully trained Rabbi, with all the knowledge of years of Rabbinical school imbued within you all at once. So Paul comes out of this thinking he is a fully trained Rabbi, immediately confuses the Messiah with the Son, mixed together about five different Jewish heroes, including what seems to have been a very influential & beloved Rabbi named Ieshua Ben Hananiah who was still alive at the time into a since person named Ieshu who was the Messiah & also gets into fights with several other such leaders popping up all around the exact same time for teaching false information.
Regarding flat earth, the "Final Experiment" has just been performed, where a bunch of flat earthers were shipped to Antarctica to experience the midnight sun (that would be impossible on the FE model). Quite interesting
34:02 I had a friend whose parents named him fish. 😵💫
34:55 oh wow, didn't expect to hear shin megami tensei
I still don’t understand the point Daniel was trying to make. I’m glad you understood it😂
The last caller rambles on and then accuses Seth of "talking too long"...
Sure he's mad that he _feels_ like he's not being heard, he thinks his questions aren't being answered, when he probably is being heard AND answered and just ignores it.
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51:00 This guy rambles all over multiple subjects for minutes at a time, and yet wants to criticize you for talking too long for him to answer. Curious
Yeah the last guy was another one where I believe he's lying about being something. "My field of research". Please tell me what field of research uses the logic of "If you don't personally have access to 100% of all data ever collected, and haven't personally reviewed it all, then it can't be afforded any significant level of trust". Complete BS. He wanted to soapbox. Also his take on global warming research. Maybe it would warm up anyway? Did you misunderstand the whole point about believing something based on the weight of evidence or do you believe the scientists are just guessing? There's no way he has any even remotely advanced science education.
He's just convinced he's so much smarter than everyone else, that they just don't see what he sees.
Bro im seconding the shin megami tensei games! I will note that the games have different alignment based endings 4 and 4A are on the 3ds, so you might need an emulator. SMT5 has 2 versions on the modern consoles and i think that one is peak gameplay, but the story isnt as good as 4. Some of the best turn based combat ive played. 5 is also very referential to smt3, but its not needed to play 3.
Damn Daniel!
Daniel is such an annoying caller. Refusing to listen and avoiding question
When we ask the theist for the evidence of just one of their claims, we either find that their evidence does not meet the definition of evidence, or their evidence leads back to the Bible, or scripture as their accepted authority, which does not meet the standard of evidence.
When a scientist makes a claim, whether they represent the scientific community solely, or they work to provide data to governments, we find that the evidence for their claims is legitimate evidence and that evidence can be traced back to their original hypothesis. The research, their experiments and their conclusions can be verified and tested. In the majority of cases, your conclusions will match the conclusions of the scientist through logical analysis.
If you discover a conflict in the scientists data, they will need to rationalize the conflict, or dismiss their claim.
Regarding the flat earth boy friend: If this boyfriend is open to changing his mind if presented with evidence, maybe you are ok. Decide whether you can trust this person to make good, rational decisions for you if it ever comes to that.
...and their not multibillionaires pushing buttons of the common people.
Where does that last caller draw the line between skepticism and misanthropy?
25:40 I've been in a cult, against my will, a real cult, one which it is very hard to leave - in a very physical way: you are supervised all the time, even at night sort-of, and you cannot leave the premises. All the brainwashing techniques you can think of were employed, except for direct physical torture - but I'm sure it has happened, it's just not the standard way. You were physically brutalized don't get me wrong, but through the useless and extremely physically demanding tasks you were forced to accomplish from dawn till dusk. Every morning when I woke up I was depressed to still exist. Obviously it was a deviant organization rooted in the Catholic church. Not in the US.
I found my way out eventually, I'm fine, the trauma mostly subsided even though some stuff is still holding me back. I don't take offense when people loosely use the term cult, but I do agree with the caller that even though cults and religions go hand in hand, it probably doesn't do good to anyone to call anything with a bunch of rules and a charismatic leader a cult.
My point of view might be skewed from yours, Seth, by my experience of religion. In my country Catholicism (the dominant religion, even though most people are atheists) is extremely relaxed in general. It does quite often turn to hell in small groups which unite around it, this is true. But from what I'm seeing on RUclips about the US, our relation to religion is way less cultish than yours, I think. So maybe you're not abusing the term that much, in the context of the US at least.
I don't think the discussion is bannable or should be... Wether someone agrees or disagrees about cults and cultism and or how all religions are cults..
But they are clearly cults. Every church, of every religion is a cult.. those involved are in a cult, the ideologies and concepts and practices are of cultism.
Not every part is dangerous or harmful and not everyone is as harmful as another part. But it still is cultism. It qualifies under the BITE model..it does have behavior control, information control, thought control and emotional control.
Just because some aspects are not as harmful or it has developed into a religious institution ..it does not step out of being a cult and being in cultism ideologies. Just because someone can leave or step away does not mean it is not a cult.
Mormonism is clearly a cult..I walked away from it.. me being able to walk away and escape it doesn't change it from being a cult. Often those in cults don't see it as a cult..that's why they are comfortable in it. Very few people go in looking and saying...I think I will join a cult today .😂
I think the exposure of how each religion and denomination is a cult .. exposing the areas that make it a cult.. educating people what a cult is, what cultism is and how to identify cult ideology is very critical to taking another huge leap forward to getting people to step away from religion and its ideologicalisms and beliefs and following in it. Make them aware, get them to start looking.
All religions, in all denominations qualify as a cult.. pure and simple.. clear as day. You can test the bite model to ideologies and concepts and things of beliefs held taught..the way it is taught. Positions held, ideologies about things, the way they govern themselves and followers..the ideals behind all these things.. you will clearly see they fit all areas of the bite model and taking each individual specific area, subject, and point as a score card and scoring it on a scale..all of these areas will score in various areas of the bite model and in every area multiple times.
I shared this before in a discussion with someone who argued the same point as the caller. I shared that even if the test group scored just one point in each area of the bite model . It is a cult. It does not matter if you compared it to the one that scored 100 points in each area or ten points or five ..or a few points here and there and more points in one area and just one point in this one spot.. it scored points in each category area and thus it is a cult
Give it the label it deserves and fits.. educate people about cultism in general and what it is..then guide them through the steps to watch and put whatever denomination of whatever religion through the tests.. let them score it.. get them to be honest. Honest to themselves and about the subject..be neutral about it.
I did this to a friend who was a Protestant Christian and had him write up a test scale of questions and areas to each of the categories of the bite model and sub categories.. branch it out.. then I told him to test it with Mormonism...then Catholicism and the areas of other Christianity... Methodist, Lutheran, Calvinism, Protestant, JW, and others.. He saved his for last and got only half way through and started to see his has all to most of the same answers and scoring as all the others.
Now he is still a believer..but it shook him up.. he rather just forget about it than address it
All religion, apart from mine, is a cult... Said by everyone in a religion
I think some people, like Seth, use the most expensive definition of religion. I don’t consider those expansive beliefs as religion, they are beliefs or communities (ie the UU’s). Religions are cults because religion needs the control, the coercion, and the power disparity to make it a religion separate from a belief system or cultural group.
Sociology makes an easy and accurate distinction between a religion and a cult. Religion is a belief system that offers believers a way to view reality and accepts that there are other valid views. A cult believes that it has the exclusive and only valid answers for reality and believes that all who don't see it their way are wrong and damned in some way. By this definition, only Christianity among the major religions is a cult. In the text it clearly says the ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER IS THROUGH THE SON....it is an exclusive view of belief that is undeniable. Islam believes itself to be the "final" revelation, but does not believe Jews, Christians etc. to be excluded.
In original Eslaum you get what you deserve. The Truth/Justice...Goodness is above all/Allauh/Lord or call Him/It whatever you want, a true believer does not love even their own son if the son acts in opposition to Allauh, so if his or her own son wrongs a stranger then the true believer protects the stranger and punishes the guilty son.
In the Qur'an Allauh did not even order Ebrahem or Abraham to slaughter his innocent son.
Islam on TV with a moon symbol is fake, its Judaism and Freemasonry.
Also, blind following is forbidden in Eslaum as it is same as worshiping, it is idolatry/sherk, there is no "sheikhs" in Eslaum, there is no rabbis/experts/gods/masters and laymen like in Judaism.
Images are not forbidden in Eslaum.
The Zion "news" is lies. There is no evidence of invisible thing floating around that can make you die if you dont let the sorcerers inject something in your blood, just like there is no evidence that Osama destroyed Jew York with civilian airplanes, and he even said in a video that he and Afghan people did not do it, and then the Zionists killed him in 2001 and used an actor with a rubber mask or whatever to say crazy things on TV.
Kabbalah teaches conformism.
USA, Russia, Saudi, Iran, China...are all one same thing acting to be different and enemies of each other. Biden, Trump, Putin, etc are actors.
The elections are not only rigged like that actor Trump said and then won the elections trying to convince you that elections are not rigged and Democracy is real. The elections are completely fake, it is a TV show.
They have these actors to act like clowns, and then the Zionists associate these clowns and their dumb supporters and their stupid and fake conspiracy theories to real people who were saying for years that elections are fake and that the news is literally fake.
Palestine is a trick. We are ALL occupied.
These skeptics won't trust scientists but they will trust their auto mechanic and their insurance agent.🤦🤦🤦🤦