11:44 you might want to rethink that analogy, a lot of transphobes absolutely DO think all autistic people are bad and to be eliminated. Have you not seen the right wing think pieces that tried, unsuccessfully, to link mass shootings and incel culture to autistic people? In fact, the idea that "autistic people = mentally ill, mentally incapable and inferior and bad because not normal" is one of the most common and widespread forms of ableism we have to contend with.
@@robokill387 I'm not sure what's worse. Them or parents of trans autistic people who think they're "confused" about their gender due to autism. No matter how capable their offspring might be in their lives, they still think they have the right to "parent-splain" their sons/daughters ' gender identity to them.
This closeted trans person appreciates this well researched and knowledgeable debunk 🥺💜. Hopefully this may help my family not wanna disown me when I come out ~
@@lillily4655 Not as much as the L you've taken for being disowned from your entire family. Chances are, you won't even see them placed in a nursing home.
@@lillily4655 some people I bet you do, I'm "transphobic" or I get called that. I love everyone, including trans people, I just feel bad for you because I know it's not a happy life. It's not a happy existence It's and illogical emotional argument that's just ruining lives
Hey I had to say this. First who I am I am not ultra conservative or super liberal but this was very informative. I have little to no exposure to the trans community but I am a very tolerant person. Between this and the athlete video I learned a lot and realized maybe I am a bit transphobic due to lack of exposure to these ideas. Thanks I strive to be tolerant but ignorance can be a valid excuse as long as it is not malicious. Thank you for dispelling some ignorance I left left. None of us know and understand everything and every one.
Honestly it’s seeing people like you that adds to my hope jar. A thing I noticed is that some people acting transphobic aren’t vile at heart, but they don’t know enough to be aware of how cruel their actions can be. They can grow, but the damage they caused won’t heal so easily. Thank you for listening instead of reacting with fear and hatred :)
@@Rykojames Actually, a lot of biology textbooks support trans people and explain their existence. Plus, the chromosomes don't prove that there is a sexual binary because chromosomal anomalies exist.
@DuncanCantDie thanks for this! Before I start, I don't know if these arguments are necesarily valid but these are some arguments agianst transphobes. They might be wrong or ineffective...(Sorry if it's a lot) - If hormone blockers or hormone therapy is as bad as they say should people stop from taking chemotherapy if they are a cancer patient? Chemotherapy generates hair lose, illnesses, fatigue and people have died in some cases because of certain sicknesses. Both chemotherapy and hormone blockers are reversable but only one can have the potiential to kill you. - Without mentioning the name Kaitlyn Genner, tell me how Kaitlyn doing. By default most of time, people including transphones will say she/her. So they just disproved the argument that what defines a woman is solely their biolody. Another way is just them asking who someone is not kwowing they are a trans man or trans woman, later on refering to them as he/him or she/her again without any knowledge of that person's chormosomes, genitalia, etc. So a woman/man is only defined by biology? - Kids don't and shouldn't transtion at the age of five. To determine if they are going through gender dysphoria, it is sometimes (but not always) linked to anxiery, suicidality, anorexia, and or depression because of the discomfort of having physical characterisitcs or expressing in a way that you don't feel is appropriate. Of course parents or guardians can be radical and force these onto children which I'm not a fan of. - "What is a woman?" - Some who feels discomfort, in our defitnion, being a man (this also includes Non-binary I suppose) If it's diffcult to give a defitnion, think of being trans as sexuality. Cis is straight and trans is gay. But it's not that black and white either thus a gender spectrum. I don't think there's anything wrong with asking questions, but when people ask that and refuse to ackwoledge it's existance, that's the sign who is trying to fufil a poltiical agenda and or is unwilling to adapt to different people now having rights as well. - If occasionally trans surgeroy, hormone therapy, etc. goes wrong, why should that mean we should ban it? Should we ban all surgeories, not just for those who are trans but just in general, if only a few of them go wrong? - I can't imagine a scenireo where people's literal human rights will literally be stripped away from them. What exactly is the end goal? What is the overarching moitvation? What's the gameplan? I don't suspect will get killed (hopefully) but why does it matter how someone identifies as? Even if it is "inacurrate", these people know how physical biology works so what's the big deal here? The only people who need to know this infomaion is in a bioloical setting. - I know people who are trans or non-binary so even if people believe it's not based in a bioloigcal truth, it's something some have adapted to and hasn't affected our views of how men and women operate. If anything, we've gotten a better understanding of their overall defintions because of the discovery of trans. Transphobia was only created because of people who don't like it. I know the same thing would apply if rascism was never a thing we wouldn't refer to people as white, black, brown, etc. What else has the left "created" that seems to be made for pushing progressivness if being trans is the only thing people don't like? We are not censoring what a woman is. We've just realized that a woman (or man) is not a linear term. Fingers crossed that in the next few decades (or even just years) this will be accepted as a reality.
As a person on side with you, I agree with everything you said, but I’d be careful taking this kind of guns-blazing approach with someone you’re trying to convince. When I was fired up with conservative rhetoric, the last person I’d listen to is the one calling me horrible or evil or stupid. Does that sound like a secure confident person who is seeking a genuine discussion, or “a triggered libtard”? To be clear, I am *NOT* suggesting we should coddle bigotry: as you yourself point out, bigots are usually scared of the outside world, so if we want them to calm tf down and stop voting for awful stuff, we can’t give them any of the reasons they’re looking for to confirm their fears. It really does fall to us to “be better than them”. If they’re worth your effort, all of the shame you’re trying to lump on them here will come naturally to them through the course of respectful dialogue. If they aren’t, then neither your shame nor their own consciences will do the trick. What this kind of brow-beating does do, however, is further radicalize people by driving them away from what appears to be a bunch of delusional hostiles, facts be damned. Your information is excellent, but your presentation could stand to be a little less scathing
Excellent point, Vincent. As someone who inevitably sides with the perceived "underdog" and tries to mediate interactions between diverse parties, I thank you deeply.
THANK YOU DUNCAN!!! :3 Am currently stuck with stupid parents and have to wait till college to do anything and need videos like this to lift my spirits. Thank you.
@@blacktigerpaw1Cool! I just bought you from your parents. Since you're parents have ownership over you!, they have the right to, and they basically view you as a bad investment.
@@donaldbarber3829 Cool, Donald! You're an adult, you don't need to live with ucky parents anymore! Now you can spend your time 'cracking eggs' for young trans teens because of leprechauns like this!
Last month, WHO changed the diagnosis of transexualism as a mental health issue, to gender incongruence and is now classed as sexual health, in hopes that it will help people seek the appropriate help they need. Meaning there really shouldn't be an argument anymore. Trans people have, and always will be, here to stay. As a fellow scientist, I loved this video and will definitely share!
@@djjahhz1037 you understand that for an official change to a diagnostic book used by many countries, there must have been many studies that had to make a strong enough case against a board of top scientists the world over, right? And considering the last diagnostic book came out 18 years ago, that's a lot of research that has been recorded to prove a change is needed. Fascinating how you think that a 1%~ population of the world bullied a global organisation to change one thing though and use it to diminish the work of many scientists to fit your narrative.
@@justaninkling No. There was zero new study. Nothing was proven. It was purely targeted harassment. You cannot be something you're not just because you want to be. Has been this way since time begin and it will continue to be.
What uni did you go to study genetics? I'm just interested, I don't mean to come off in a condescending way Edit:Why does every other serious comment get a reply except mine😭
Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben was the person who created the basis for military drill during the American revolution. He was being persecuted in Prussia for being homosexual and the American gave him a very important job. Almost all American military drill and ceremony is heavily based off what he made for them almost 250 years ago.
The problem with the argument: "just say you don't like it", is that they don't like it because they don't understand it. If they would, they would see no problem with it...
Indian pronunciations were fine. Important note: While "hijra" is term of some historicity and relgiousity it is also used as a slur because even independant of Victorian era prudishness the LGBTQIA+ community were and are still treated as deviants and outcastes. As an upper caste brahmin cisgender male, after I was born there was a ritual involving visits from trans women (trans men are under-represented even within this group) and as I grew up my parents were able to show me how poorly they are and have been treated despite being an inalienable part of the "hindu" community. I'm glad you brought them up, but I would caution against interpreting their acknowledgement, presence in some folklore and myths as any form of normalization of the trans experience because there are major strides still needed to break phobias and prejudices even in India. Being a step ahead means very little when it comes to trans liberation. Edit: Reworded some bits as I didn't like how they read.
oh for sure! trans people around the world are still suffering from british imperialism ): it's a shame the traditional term became a slur, is there a better term or is it trying to be reclaimed? :)
@@missberyl Tricky, that, because I think most inclusive terms are mostly the same english ones. Plus, its India, I'm fluent in two of its several dozen languages, and Bangla / Hindi don't really have many gender inclusive terminology afaik. I would happily defer to anyone better educated on this from India to share their comments.
I will point out as an Trans ally that your first “Debunk” is “words change meaning overtime.” Argument is terrible because If I say someone who has Cancer and define it someone who can’t drive and then justify it by saying “words change.”
Respectfully, you're not getting it. Of course you can use words differently from their commonly accepted meaning, but that doesn't mean that you changed their meaning, just that you're using them wrong. The 'correct' meaning of words is, in practice, determined by consensus of the speakers. A word means what people agree it means, because if it didn't, it couldn't be used to communicate this agreed-upon meaning. What's meant by "Words can change meaning over time" is that if enough people use a word wrong, over time this new usage can become equally as correct as, or even replace the original 'correct' meaning. We can even observe this with words like 'gay', which previously meant 'happy' but through continued usage to describe homosexuals gained the meaning of 'homosexual'.
@@husky0098 huge problem with the language argument is in order for this to work speakers have to argee on a word the problem being the people your debating are also speakers of the language which determines what words mean (their a big enough population to matter absolutely.)
@@carved6749 Slang is not codified by people democratically voting it, it makes its way into “official” vocabulary through everyday usage and exposure. This isn’t France man, we don’t have a dedicated language board, it’s just a matter of time until new words get added into “official” dictionaries. There is a reason Urban Dictionary exists: It has a wide slew of problems and there’s a lot of memes that destroy the experience, but it still fulfills the role of defining new slang and its usage. “Awesome” was slang. Now it’s considered an informal but perfectly valid adjective to use. “You” was the formal way to address subjects, with thee and thou being informal and usage as a subject and an object respectively. Many modern translations of the Bible still use thee and thou, and the original intention was to make God seem more personable and close to the average, non-noble person. Now, we associate the terms thee and thou with fancy, flowery language, due to the drift in language and gradual phasing out of old vocabulary. English as a language has evolved greatly, with Early Modern English being a bit hard but definitely possible for the average modern speaker to understand, Middle English being recognizable only ever couple words, and Old English seeming downright indecipherable to anyone who hasn’t studied it. Language is going to change. It always will. That doesn’t mean words don’t still have the original meaning in their original contexts and knowing that definition isn’t important in literary analysis, but refusing to acknowledge linguistic change is, to put it in Modern English, cringe.
@@carved6749But words also have different definitions depending on the subject discussed. If I mention that this person I know is a racist, I'm clearly referring to personal attitudes and possibly beliefs that they hold and express. Whereas if I refer to racism as a concept, I'm generally referring to systemic aspects of society, that will certainly be INFORMED by people's personal attitudes and beliefs, but cannot be reduced to it.
I have an interesting perspective on the other definition of woman, where a woman is "someone who has qualities traditionally associated with females." I think that definition works for all women, because you could say one of those qualities is simply just being female. Another could be the societal norms and social constructs of gender. Either way, it works, and I think that should be the definition as society progresses along. It's the one I always subscribe to (and I use a similar one for men as well).
@@blacktigerpaw1 I am a trans male but enjoy stereotypical feminine things I identify as a man because I prefer my body to be as close to a biological man's body as it can get
@@eehee2428 You don't have a 'biological male body' because you don't have a Y chromosome or an SRY gene. You underwent Mullerian development. What about your transition will make you 'closer to a biological man'?
Thank you so much for making this video Duncan. Very educational and super important content like this is being made and shared. I went ahead and marked the timestamps to the best of my ability for the arguments you debunked to make it as easy as possible for people who need to come back to this as a resource to navigate: 1:30 - Debunking the “What is a Women?” argument 3:40 - Duncan’s Scientific Qualifications 4:11 - Debunking the “biological” / “genetics” arguments against trans people 13:39 - Debunking the “trans people didn’t exist in history” argument/ sociological arguments against trans people 20:50 - Conclusion/ Outro
Transwomen are male, that is their sex. We know because their sex was determined at fertilization. A woman is an adult human female. Duncan knows what females are in lab mice when he experimented on them. He didn't come from a 'birthing person', he came from a woman. Yes, he's got an MA in genetics but isn't doing anything with it, and thinks karyotypes are separate sexes.
Hey Duncan can you not always bring up the "dropped out of highschool" thing. It really devalues those (like myself) who dropped out for mental health reasons or other non "you just stupid" reasons. I consider myself a leftist and agree with most things you say...but the "dropout" stereotype really gets on my nerves
Strongly agree with this. I dropped out my second year to enroll in college, finished my degree before 19. People who drop out don't always do it because they can't hack it. Hell, my dad was kicked out of highschool, in his senior year, cause he got my mom pregnant.
As a "transphobe" I found this video to be extremely underwhelming and unconvincing. 0:50 He starts off by equivocating on the word transphobe. He has defined transphobe in other videos as "anyone who is not willing to say that trans women are women". He then defined transphobe here as someone who "is scared of people and ideas that are different, and want to blame trans people for their own pathetic existence". Why is he pretending that these two are the same things? Believing in the first definition does not necessitate belief in the second 1:50 He almost immediately contradicts himself by now saying that defining woman as "adult human female" is a valid definition. So does this mean accepting this definition makes you a transphobe? Because saying "trans women are not women" fits perfectly into that admitted valid definition He then goes to lay out an example of why sex is not binary, but in the process actually proves that sex is binary 7:27 He says if "Sox9 is active, you'll get a "boy" (I don't know why he using a gendered term when should have just said "male"). 7:37 He again conflates sex and gender by referring to this person as a "boy" despite the fact that this is a gender term 8:14 For a third time, he refers to this person as a "boy", instead of properly using the sex term "male". I can't tell if this is a mistake, or if he believes "boy" is a sex term He then explains the process of how we can have an XX male and an XY female based on the presence of Sox9. But guess what? This only further proves that sex is binary. An XX male and XY female perfectly fits within the idea that every human is either male or female, and it seems that Duncan agrees, so how exactly does he see this as an argument against the sex binary? 9:04 He then concludes that "sex is super complicated". What he really should have said is "for a small minority of people who develop atypically, sex determination can be very complicated and technical to determine. However, each of these people are still determined to be either male or female". But of course, saying that would be "transphobic" Then he goes on to his brain example 12:07 He claims that the existence of a male body in a female brain proves transgenderism, but this is simply untrue. Just like someone can have male-typical chromosomes despite still being considered a female (as he explained earlier), someone with a male-typical brain would still be considered female. I don't how this is a knock-down argument. 12:20 Then he says "if you agree that male brains and female brains are basically the same, then gender identity is just a social construct". First of all, you can accept and believe that gender is a social construct while still being critical of transgenderism if you believe that gender is still grounded and dependent on sex. Secondly, proving that something is a social construct does not prove that is it simply a matter of subjective personal identity. Take race for example, it is very much a social construct that humans have devised, and where we draw the boundaries is ultimately arbitrary. And while a Japanese brain is "basically the same" as a Nigerian brain, it's a huge logical to leap to say "therefore, you can be a Japanese person in a Nigerian body". And "trans-Nigerians are Nigerians" and anyone who disagrees is a transphobe.
@@watchmebonkit2168 Can you explain more? My impression was that male/female were sex, and man/woman boy/girl were gender terms. So I accepted the distinction, and showed how he failed to stay consistent with it.
@@Seethi_C honestly the whole trans movement feels like a religion or cult of some sort. They say ask questions, then get triggered by basic questions or commonly used words such as period. As someone whose trying to understand these people and hopefully come to some sort of compromise, when I ask questions I dont understand, I'm called transphobic. I've also gotten a lot of hate and threats for not wanting to and turning down dating trans woman. Why should I or anyone else be forced into accepting a lifestyle that I wouldn't or ever be associated with?
What do you mean, there are multiple definitions of woman? There is no such thing as a male wife, when a man gets married they become a husband. What makes women different from men?
I mean there are literally multiple definitions of the word woman. As listed in every dictionary known to man. Many words have multiple meanings. Are you ok?
@@BlueAxeRacer I literally read the definition out from the Oxford English Dictionary in the first 2 mins of the video. Are you OK? Do you need help? Do you have some kind of memory issue?
@@BlueAxeRacer … no because I don’t personally decide the definition of words in the English language. I’m not delusional like you are. I accept the reality of the meaning of words.
As a trans girl who came out like 2 and a half months ago, I hope this video will help my family understand me (I didn’t watch it yet, I’ll reply to this comment once I’m finished watching).
If your purpose was to educate or meaningfully "debunk" any arguments you wouldn't be making a clown out of yourself by wearing your bad faith badges of condescension and eagerness to insult from the get-go. Transphobia and transphobic arguments are as true to the people believing them as "wokeness" is true to those who believe it. Insulting, pretending to know better and whatnot doesn't "debunk" an argument, it adds fuel to the fire.
Awww. Did it hurt your Wickle feewings snowflake? Doesn’t matter if it did. Science is fact based. Something “being as true” to bigots because they ignore science is meaningless. What a pile of drivel lmao.
@@ambientjohnny Why do you keep ignoring pro-trans research, huh? Seriously, we could be having the same argument about Eugenics. Nobody is listening to your claims because they are outdated and proven incorrect by anyone with more than five IQ points. Stay in your lane.
@@ambientjohnny He is talking about the concept that people are trans are real not that they transition. Is the transition process perfect? No but if that's the case, should we stop giving cancer patients chemotherapy? It can lead to hair lose, infertility, illnesses, infections, and even die in some cases. It's obviously not perfected either. So should we halt anyone from using them? Hormone blockers or hormone therapy is incapable of literally killing the person who is taking it. What's the difference here?
Speaking of definitions...doesn't Phobia mean fear? I can disagree with a person's ideologies without fearing them, right? We don't call democrats republicanphobes..so why are we labeling people who disagree with trans ideologies "transphobes"?
Because the justification for disagreeing with the ideologies is always a fear. Explain why you’re against trans rights, ideologies and acceptance without fear mongering. The scientific community says trans people are valid so you can’t use the “it’s against science” excuse, so why are you against it?
@@DuncanCantDie I am telling you the absolute truth when I say that I feel bad for them. The belief that they need to change something so fundamental ( of course in most cases changing your ways or bettering yourself is an important thing) to their being just makes me feel sorry for them. As far as being against trans rights..I just dont think confusing topics should be pushed on younger children. If a child is curious about the opposite gender..and then their parents say they could become the opposite sex that could confuse them. However I am not against them having the basic rights all humans deserve. And thanks for taking the time to respond. (I do believe in intelligent design as well..just full disclosure)
@@jessegarnertheopinionated544 ah, so you’re afraid of the “trans agenda” “corrupting children”. Sounds like an unreasonable and unfounded fear to me. That’s a phobia my friend. You are a transphobe.
@@jessegarnertheopinionated544 no, disliking people for what they’re choosing to do is not a “phobia”. You are scared of the existence of trans people. You’re scared of a myth about indoctrination and conversion, something that is the opposite of fact. Republicans are just pieces of shit. They’re just shitty people who want to oppress and control people with a theocratic state. There’s no myth there. It’s their outspoken messaging. They literally claim it to be their plan.
This video is a great summary of some basic scientific concepts around the theme. It would be cool to have some reading recommendations of scientific articles in the description too for anyone who wants to start learning more about it from here.
LONG BUT WORTH READING 1) every definition refers to the normal state. Otherwise you cant define anything, for example you wouldn't be able to say that humans have 5 fingers because some have 6. About the fact that men and women have differnt brains, thats a fact, but there cant be a male brain in a female body without any genetical abnormality since body and brain are essentially developed simultaneously and dependent on the same genetical factors. 2) The inaccuracies and fallacies dont end here, they also exstends to the cultures you so desperately try to convince us were widespread through history and the world. First of all just because some women/men lived their lives fullfilling roles that are usually associated with the opposite gender it doesn't mean they were trans in any way. (And don't get me started on Greco-Roman gods, it's simply unfair and absurd to portrait them as proof that trans people existed or "were praised" since anyone who is well educated can tell you that greek gods origin stories and myths are absolutely crazy, just as a reference a goddess was born from the amputated penis that was thrown in the sea. Same for northern Gods, they had the power to disguise themselves in anything, just because they disguised themselves as women, that doesn't mean they were trans 🙄) Furthermore you can't claim that Thai/indian culture recognises these practices since Thailand and india or basically any country that you mentioned has or has had vastly different cultures and religious practices depending on the region and time period. So no, thai culture for example doesnt include transgenderism. (Btw transgenderism as intended by the videos author (modern transgenderism) is definitely NOT what the cultures transgenderism is about if it can even be called that way since i already explained how in most cases it doesnt even have anything to do with what the author inteds) 3) Stop saying gay/black people invented things they haven't invented or acomplishments they havent achieved Alan turing hasnt invented the computer (it was the Antikythera machine if we talk about computer in the broad term) ( the first modern computer was invented by Charles Babbage) And Germany would have lost the war even if the allies would have cracked the enigma code. (I could explain why but ill just state: soviet union) 4) Christianity isnt about hating gay people or trans people, its about the word of the gospel which doesn't say explicitly that being gay is bad, but it is listed as adultery which is a sin. [Exodus 20:14 ten commandments]. Same goes for transgender people, God created man and woman [Genesis 1:27]. Christianity isn't even about persecuting people, [Leviticus 19:18] “Love Your Neighbor as Yourself”. Many people then will say that telling gay/trans people they shouldn't sin is hateful and by the same logic it goes against loving your neighbour. This is also wrong because by saying that being gay is a sin we are actually helping these people redeem themselves in Jesus Christ and Faith. Hope i shined some light on this very biased video.
Lmaoooo the Babbage machines were all single purpose. Alan Turing invented the multipurpose computer which is the father of modern computers. The Babbage machines used completely different mechanisms and processes and relate to modern computing very little. I’m a geneticist. I’ll trust my professors, my supervisors and the scientific community on what makes up a scientific definition. Not some idiot who calls things “genetical factors” (which is not a term and genetical isn’t even a word) Transgenderism has existed and does exist in their cultures. There is no difference at the core between any of these cultures because they’re all just acknowledging a group of people that exists. It was a long post of yours. It was not worth the read. You spouted unsubstantiated nonsense filled with logical, spelling and grammatical errors in a desperate attempt to seem intelligent enough to discuss this topic with me. You are not.
@@DuncanCantDieit's nice to see your answer, and I can't pretend to be a biology expert, I'm just citing what other experts have said on the matter, I wasn't rude to you while writing it, I just underlined the fallacies that are in your videos. By pointing out my grammatical mistakes (English is not my first language) and your opinion that "I'm not smart" You haven't posed a threat to my claims, you have also ignored the fact that my points are factual and cannot be debated, completely forgetting that big historical "whoops" of yours. If Alan Turing invented the computer depends on your definition of computer, I'd say he contributed to it greatly, but didn't invent it even if it did, that wasn't my point, you just used the fact that he was a very intelligent person that got basically killed because he was gay to discredit Christianity and Christian theology. Ps genetical factors being XX and XY genes, and no, not all Indian cultures acknowledge transgenderism and I said in my first comment that even the ones who do cant be compared to modern day transgenderism.
@@chadhuman982 you might not be an expert in biology but I am. I have a masters degree in genetics specialising in medical molecular genetics. You haven’t backed up any of your arguments at all. You haven’t posted one study. You haven’t posted one piece of evidence. You have only given unsubstantiated claims. If that is your standard for proof then I challenge you to disprove the following statement: Every Wednesday night Jesus Christ descends from heaven so I can fuck him in the arse until he cums buckets. By your own logic and premise *if you cannot disprove this you are admitting it is true* Which means I’m balls deep in your lord and saviour every Wednesday so if you ever want to go to heaven you better be careful how you speak to me.
@@pileobones2842 why are you such a coward? I responded to your other comment. Why did you run here instead? Did my reply hurt your feelings so you had to pretend it didn’t exist?
@@pileobones2842 “I didn’t need the last bit of info” The bit where I pointed out that you’re a failure in every aspect of your life. You do need that info little bro. So you can get your life together.
one thing that i absolutely dont like as a enby trans woman is that most of the time the transphobes are also very ableist as well and go after autistic trans people like myself and call us the r word and just infantilize us by stating that "we are too dumb to know what sex and gender is" in their eyes which ofc is complete bollox as any autistic person would tell you cos we see gender completely differently than neurotypical people which is why some of the community uses neopronouns like xie/xer (even though transphobes hate neopronouns cos according to them neopronouns dont exist which i always laugh at since most neopronouns are from Old English). i found this video very informative and it certainly debunked everything what the transphobes always say, also another thing to add to the history of trans people part is the Institute of Sexual Research (which researched anything and everything to do with LGBT) which was founded by Magnus Hirschfeld (who was gay himself) in the 1910-20s Germany and was based in Berlin where trans people where treated like any other human being until ofc 1933 (which ofc everyone knows about what happened that year). seeing this video has helped me be happy for the first time in awhile cos im so scared about what the UK (our home country government i mean) will do next to screw over my rights to exist so thank you for that Duncan, keep up the great content and i hope this ramble kinda made sense since i was typing without thinking XD
@@fransliszt the terminally online sock puppet account troll commenter is telling me to seethe and get social skills? OK. Go cry on twitter some more about how no women will fuck you. Lmao.
Uh, yeah, random internet guy here. If sex isn't binary then why is it that every mammal that has ever lived only has TWO biological parents, a male and a female? Am I the only one who noticed how he seamlessly moved from gametes into chromosomes? Little slight of hand allowing you to make a conclusion you wouldn't otherwise be able to make. Cute!
@@DuncanCantDie I’ve already done better than provide definitions. I’ve provided evidence. All mammals have only *TWO* biological parents, a male and a female. No exceptions. Parse that however you want, but it demonstrates sex is binary. Your turn! Please provide the exception, a homo sapien with more than two biological parents. If sex is non-binary "it should be very easy"!
@@jasonlongton1876 The virgin mary. Ok for real though, while not mammals, there are plenty of aninals that can reproduce parthenogenically or hermaphroditically. The only reason mammals can't reproduce parthenogenically is because of this weird thing embryos do during gestation called genomic imprinting. Not to mention, intersex people literally exist and can reproduce. Like. Are you stupid? But anyway thats besides the point. As the creator literally said in this very video, what you are describing is sex determination on a species wide level (smaller vs larger gametes). Sex determination in individuals works differently
Because sexual dimorphism is an excellent way for a population to retain both diversity and stability in that population. Essentially, it's a lucky accident, reinforced by millions of years of evolution, which also resulted in mutations to our brains that in most cases "set" both orientation and gender identity.
I've already said why this isn't a good idea (though I understand why you'd want to do it) in a reply to a comment like this, so I'll just copy and paste my point here: I've seen a lot of trans people and allies say that arguing with transphobes is a bad idea because it gives them an opportunity to squeeze in more of their rhetoric and possibly convince more people that they're right. The best thing to do when seeing transphobia online is to block/report the offender (if you're on a site that allows you to do that) without engaging them, as denying them a platform is far more effective than trying to convince them to let go of their hate.
This is like a super nit picky point, but for who Duncan is addressing it makes sense they wouldn't know this. But technically the male seahorse does not give birth per say. The female deposits the eggs in the males pouch and fertilizes the eggs, then when the eggs hatch the baby seahorses leave the pouch. So to the dummies he's addressing it would make sense to say the male seahorse gives birth because it looks that way. But in broad stroke of an example it basically right without getting technical. Now to finish watching the video :D
So the argument is that a seahorse doesn't accept his sex, takes hormones, calls himself male and goes on to have babies because he's actually female but wants to be called she? Cos if not, I don't see how it's relevant to the trans situation.
This is excellent, though I'm a Trans ally, I found difficult to answer how if you look at chromosomes blah blah blah.... To be honest I didn't look deep enough into the topic, but now you have provided me with the missing piece of the puzzle. Thx a lot for educating me.
You used the *_appeal to authority_* logical fallacy when you declared that you're a geneticist. If that's what you're using override people's arguments, who "wins"? *"As a biologist, there are two sexes and that's all there is to it." - Richard Dawkins, world famous evolutionary biologist*
That’s not how appeal to authority works you dumbass lmao. Saying “I’m a geneticist so I know about genetics, here’s some genetics facts” is not an appeal to authority. I really wish idiots like you had never been taught that logical fallacies exist. You get it wrong so often it’s embarrassing. I’m sure you even think this comment is “ad hominem” just because it contains insults.
@@DuncanCantDie But why resort to insults tho? Weird how trans ppl and trans allies are more hateful than "transphobes". Most "transphobes" simply think that there are 2 genders and you cant switch gender, it doesnt come from hate. But here you go misrepresenting our point and making us even less convinced of the gender ideology
If I see someone as ugly should I be forced to call them pretty? I would say to me a male and female are based on a persons reproductive roll, the reason I go based off this is that beyond this these words have no meaning otherwise in my mind. As for pronouns I believe them to be similar in nature to words like cool, pretty and ugly, by that I mean that one doesn't denote whether that they are these things, one can call themselves pretty and ask other too as well, but these thing come from how others identify you rather then you identifying yourself. Basically two people can call the same person both a he or she and neither would be wrong, same way two people can call the same person ugly or pretty and neither would be wrong.
Luckily what “you see” as the meaning of things doesn’t determine their meaning. You’re wrong. You’re stupid. You’re delusional. Stay fucking mad you loser. Lmaoooooo.
@@DuncanCantDie Ah but it does, as the meaning of what is pretty is different from person to person and changes era to era based on society, these are words that purely get their definition from how people define them. I must say as a so called debater you bring a lot of emotion and ad hominems to your reply with no attempt at backing up your argument, this does a disservice to trans people or any other you might support as the way you conduct yourself allows no discourse, which leads to no progression in your favour and infact would more likely lead to the reverse thus harming the trans ideology. One last question if I were to call you a she and say I saw you as a woman how would you convince me otherwise?
@@liquid47 let me clarify a few things for your dumb ass: 1) I refuted every point you made because you made precisely one point. 2) yes, society as a whole determines the definition of words, however you as an individual deciding your definition, which doesn’t line up with any societal norm, does not. 3) ad hominem is a term you morons throw around a lot. At no point have I engaged in ad hominem. You should do some reading and try to figure out the difference between ad hominem and insults. They are in fact different things. Ad hominem is when you use the insult *as your argument* which I’ve done at no point. So again. Stay mad you dumb fuck lmao.
@@DuncanCantDie So then lets say if a large majority of people defined a woman as an adult human female as in relation to their reproductive role, would that not now make it accurate to say that a man thus cannot be a woman as society has deemed it so. Also ad hominem definition: (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining. "an ad hominem response" adverb 1. in a way that is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining. Now tell me in what way is this "You’re wrong. You’re stupid. You’re delusional. Stay fucking mad you loser. Lmaoooooo." attacking my position? Even then if most people use ad hominem as to mean, attack a person character rather then their argument, does this not also define its definition, as this is how society uses these words, words their meaning or gain new meanings constantly as is being done now with the definition of woman, by no means is this bad, this is just what happens with time.
@@liquid47 because I didn’t say “you’re wrong. You’re stupid. Etc” *instead* of addressing your argument. I did it *as well as* therefore it is not an ad hominem logical fallacy. Again, if you don’t understand a term then don’t use it. In response to your first question… I answer that *at length* in this video. Is your memory defective?
Completely unrelated to your main argument but Alan Turing didn’t invent computers, that was Ada Lovelace who was not given the credit she deserved because she was a woman
Ada Lovelace definitely did a lot of work and laid down the fundamentals of coding using Charles Babbages machines, which laid the foundation for computers but the first “computer” in the modern sense, as in the basic functional layout with “processors” and “ram” was enigma. Obviously Turing built on existing concepts and was a fan of Lovelaces work but I think that there is a point where making something actually function as a general “logic engine” is where you have to draw the line of “this is where computers started” Otherwise we have to go all the way back to BC for the first computers. (The ancient computer from antikythera)
@@DuncanCantDie the enigma is not a computer in the modern sense. A computer needs to be programmable. The theoretical machine of Ada was a computer and so was bubbage's. But if it can't be programmed in some way, it's not a computer, it's just a machine. The enigma could be configured to change the encryption "key" but it still only did one type of encryption. Computer scientists use "turing-completeness" as a test to see if something is a computer or not. Minecraft redstone is turing complete. The enigma machine is not. (also the enigma doesn't have a processor nor does it have "ram" though it does has memory in the form of the rotors)
@@BeeLy1011 So funny you are now crying genocide whenever you don't get what you want. But go ahead, cite the Potato Man here. We'll laugh at these shitty arguments.
Because when you use that dumbfuck argument you’re not actually talking about “race” as a social construct, you’re talking about it as an ethnicity, race is used to mean both in modern language. You absolutely can grow up in any culture and be part of it regardless of your ethnicity, but ethnicity is biological. You can’t change your biology, no one is claiming you can change your biological sex, just like you can’t change your biological “race” (ethnicity). It’s an obfuscating argument used by idiots to try and dodge the facts rather than address them but it is easily countered if you don’t let the idiots shout over you. Hope this helped.
@@DuncanCantDie Yes I agree you cannot change your biological sex or ethnicity. I hate how transphobes think biological sex=gender. Gender is both social and biological, however the mistake transphobes make is thinking that chromosomes determine the gender of a person. I think that the way the brain works plays a big factor your gender. But I may be wrong. I'm not really a biologist, but even I know more than transphobes who thinks sex=gender.
Thank you for making this video. This is both fascinating and (for lack of a better word) reassuring. Coming from a family full of people with STEM backgrounds (biology and chemistry included), transphobes' "science is on my side" arguments are the ones that always intimidated me most because of my own biases. Turns out, those arguments rely on a surface-level and/or twisted understanding of science. It reminds me a little of how super-capitalists often claim "economics* is on their side" and when you press them further all they have to justify themselves with is "supply and demand" (much like how transphobes parrot "boy XY girl XX" sound bites) and nothing deeper. *I was an economics major as an undergraduate and continue to study it on the side as a grad student.
You’re letting your fantasies get ahead of you again. I know I’m hot but sadly for you I’m already married. You can continue to thirst from afar though.
@@blacktigerpaw1 I don’t acknowledge it. It’s a made-up term used as a political club to attack anyone who doesn’t accept their wracked ideology. They think they can just slap “phobe” at the end of a word and make it some kind of legitimate “condition”…when they encounter resistance to their social re-programming.
@@Draglox that's pretty easy, a man is someone who exhibits masculine qualities and a woman is someone who exhibits feminine qualities. Fem qualities are usually submissiveness, emotional sensitivity, things like that. Masc qualities are usually competitiveness, stoicism, and a lot of the time aggression but that's been changing. The truth is what it means to be a man or a woman is changing. It has been changing for at least the past century and probably longer than that. If you opened your mind and accepted that things change regardless of what you feel you'd see how truly good our world is and can be
Hey, Duncan! You've always been a favorite of mine, but recently I've really enjoyed your content. I suppose it helps that I'm trans myself, but regardless: Thank you for your work!
I've never thought about the brain biology argument that way I mean if your mind functions as a gender are does the reality of what the self is categorize as within that aspect? Why does EVERY political issue have a point wherein an important idea rests on whether a person's physical aspect is a brain or a body 😭😿
5:48 every definition refers to the normal state. Otherwise you can't define anything. How many fingers does a human hand have? We don't know because there are people who have 6 fingers
I’m an idiot and don’t know much about this subject, but I would love to hear you and Ben Shapiro go head to head. If I were a betting man, my money would be on Shapiro to prove you wrong. Again, I’m an idiot just stating my opinion.
At least you’re aware that you’re an idiot. Shapiro, a failed lawyer turned failed actor turned right wing demagogue and mouthpiece role playing as a “good jew” while ignoring the Torah debating biology with me, a guy with a masters degree in genetics. If you think he would “prove me wrong” then you care about feelings, not facts.
Duncan, I hope this isn't too ignorant of a question: You have noted that gender identity is entirely a social construct, and is effectively immutable after a certain age. Would that not suggest that a person's brain could be predisposed to develop in some range on the spectrum of gender identity but highly influenced by external factors? Or is brain development so complex that making such a conclusion is a hopeless task? The reason I ask is that I find the concept of "abnormality" a little strange. It may be useful as a handy categorization for a specific characteristic, but as I live in deep red Texas, "abnormality" is almost a pejorative term. Yet we wouldn't be here without millions of years of gajillions of "abnormalities". And that includes the non-beneficial ones. So why are some of them vilified? I mean - would I be correct by saying that "having some sort of abnormality" is the norm? In the context of the trans discussion, I want to be on solid ground in arguing that not only would it be normal to see a number of people whose gender identity is different from their birth sex, we should actually expect it.
Gender is a social construct that is *informed by* societal norms that are pushed on/expected of members of a certain sex. That means there will always be people who identify outside of these norms or who identify with the norms not expected of their biological sex. When it comes to whether it should be “expected” or not I think it’s not really a valuable point to consider. It happens, it has happened throughout history, in every culture that has ever existed.
The lack of right-wing lunatics in the comments is damning proof that the CEO of transphobia on RUclips had to send his goons after a much smaller channel to defend his fragile view of reality. Great content as always Duncan. Keep fighting the good fight.
Yeah I’m not trans but I just rlly appreciate how I revisited a Pokémon RUclipsr only to see how he’s been trying to make a really good impact on the world.
Don't let transphobes bully and harass you. You are beautiful and valid and should be allowed to identify as the gender you are most comfortable with. Thats called freedom, which I thought right wing conservatives were in favor of LOL
While there is good information in this video good luck changing peoples minds while insulting them. Probably better to just give the information and educate people. I also have a question. I define sex as the method you use to reproduce. Isn't the method you use to reproduce more important than the genes? As there can be xy or xx male or female that to me doesn't seem to be what actually ends up defining what you're born as. Just as a side note I support trans rights.
@@user-ve7hn2dh8h No that's not what I said. Is an eye that can't see not an eye? Obviously it's still an eye. Same with a woman or man that can't reproduce they still have the parts they just don't function properly. Asking the question is fine putting words in my mouth is not.
Can we also mention that mtf stands for “male to female” so by the definition of trans women, they’re female. So yes, they’re “adult human females” by their own argument The fact the people try and use a dictionary definition to determine their bigotry is ridiculous
As for assuming I don't understand biology, you are wrong. That being said, I totally argee with you, as you are absolutely correct, and you explain it beautifully! Thank you for you insight!
@@DuncanCantDie As a "transphobe" I found this video to be extremely underwhelming and unconvincing. 0:50 He starts off by equivocating on the word transphobe. He has defined transphobe in other videos as "anyone who is not willing to say that trans women are women". He then defined transphobe here as someone who "is scared of people and ideas that are different, and want to blame trans people for their own pathetic existence". Why is he pretending that these two are the same things? Believing in the first definition does not necessitate belief in the second 1:50 He almost immediately contradicts himself by now saying that defining woman as "adult human female" is a valid definition. So does this mean accepting this definition makes you a transphobe? Because saying "trans women are not women" fits perfectly into that admitted valid definition He then goes to lay out an example of why sex is not binary, but in the process actually proves that sex is binary 7:27 He says if "Sox9 is active, you'll get a "boy" (I don't know why he using a gendered term when should have just said "male"). 7:37 He again conflates sex and gender by referring to this person as a "boy" despite the fact that this is a gender term 8:14 For a third time, he refers to this person as a "boy", instead of properly using the sex term "male". I can't tell if this is a mistake, or if he believes "boy" is a sex term He then explains the process of how we can have an XX male and an XY female based on the presence of Sox9. But guess what? This only further proves that sex is binary. An XX male and XY female perfectly fits within the idea that every human is either male or female, and it seems that Duncan agrees, so how exactly does he see this as an argument against the sex binary? 9:04 He then concludes that "sex is super complicated". What he really should have said is "for a small minority of people who develop atypically, sex determination can be very complicated and technical to determine. However, each of these people are still determined to be either male or female". But of course, saying that would be "transphobic" Then he goes on to his brain example 12:07 He claims that the existence of a male body in a female brain proves transgenderism, but this is simply untrue. Just like someone can have male-typical chromosomes despite still being considered a female (as he explained earlier), someone with a male-typical brain would still be considered female. I don't how this is a knock-down argument. 12:20 Then he says "if you agree that male brains and female brains are basically the same, then gender identity is just a social construct". First of all, you can accept and believe that gender is a social construct while still being critical of transgenderism if you believe that gender is still grounded and dependent on sex. Secondly, proving that something is a social construct does not prove that is it simply a matter of subjective personal identity. Take race for example, it is very much a social construct that humans have devised, and where we draw the boundaries is ultimately arbitrary. And while a Japanese brain is "basically the same" as a Nigerian brain, it's a huge logical to leap to say "therefore, you can be a Japanese person in a Nigerian body". And "trans-Nigerians are Nigerians" and anyone who disagrees is a transphobe.
I have a question, when someone describes themselves as "trans men" or "trans women" are they saying they are now men/women or that they used to be men/women and are now the other? I don't want to end up calling someone the wrong thing if I end up making friends with a trans person in the future.
The easy way to think about it is that people call themselves what they want to be, so a trans man wants to be a man, hence they are male and use he/him pronouns
Kickball and just boy stuff he lived in the same neighborhood I'd see him going to and from school, one day I'm heading home and some kids had gathered around him and was picking on him i approach he looks in the eyes you could the terror he looks at me like please help me?, he never did anything to me and I was a scraper i wasn't going to let my class mate get knocked i phuqen sorted it out, he had black eye i got noses a little bloody normal day, but I asked why mate? you ask for trouble mate! He burst into tears and said i don't know i tried my dad hates me and I never wanted to disappoint him but I'm not trying I'm just me, a sissy? Well I don't think I like boys, my best friend's are girls, aright sissy years good with me just makes sure you're I shooting distance from now on.. but he has or had no choice he was what he was i never questioned anyone ones compose and it their needle was pointing Northern or not i got my own needle i like the navigation why would I give phuq,, about who the the phuq ever, their not bugging me who the phuq am I to judge it's none of my personal business if it was now that would mean you took the time to put self in the place of the person you were lowering your brow on so you would have to fantasize your in that moment and make it evil to revisit it without guilt. I mean that's the psychology behind that, thou does protest too much! why would you give a shit? That's what I want to know? why you? see thats the real question? Why are you obsessed and why is it your business? you do hnow there is a solid psychology behind what people are doing over obsessing on this very subject right? if I was you I'd run and change my email address.. dumb ass I swear.. a closeted sissy again..
I was in 4th grade use to walk to school there was a kid in my class who was in every way feminine I found it weird but never gave it a second thought, he played tether ball hopscotch he played with the girls, I was playing
@@JohnSmith-xw4yb This was painful to try and read. Even after reading it twice I'm still not sure exactly what your point was. Were you trying to say the guy who originally posted is a dumb ass?
I really, from the bottom of my heart, are thankful for you. For being so compassionate, sharing your knowledge, giving us as well the tools to argue with these people. I really am. But, still, your video makes me kind of sad, because it shouldn't be neccessary.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 Duncan: makes an entire video calling a female biologist a bigoted TERF because she says karyotypes aren't separate sexes Also Duncan: calls himself a feminist Note that Hilton is an accomplished scientist working in her field, and Duncan has to beg for $200 on Twitch, lol
@@blacktigerpaw1 i mean, Duncan is 100% correct tho. Just because you are a feminist, doesn't mean you must accept anything a woman says as true. You *really* have no idea what you're talking about and the second hand embarrassment I have for you is getting out of control.
@@blacktigerpaw1 bruh just say you hate trans people and that you think all trans people are groomers. If that’s what you legit believe, say it with your chest. If you keep it real, you at least earn more respect points in my book (however minuscule they may be) more than your fake ass appeal to authority which is fueled by an agenda and has BEEN thoroughly debunked here already. Don’t larp as if you give a fuck about biology when this very video debunked that MuH bIolOgY angle. As well as the history angle… and the definition of woman angle…
Imagine being such a soft little feather, that you call someone who disagrees with you on any subject, a transphobe, a homophobe, a racist, a sexist, like come on. Common sense and tradition will reign victorious, and you will seek mental help when common sense is common once more!
the only thing i disagreed with is whether or not gender is purely social. You can use human behaviour biology to argue differences between male and female behaviour in groups. From this perspective, trans is a series of variations in these behaviours characteristics. What people don't get on the right is that there is the rule of thumb and then there is variation. And any one characteristic that any organism can have can mutate. Btw sex and gender have to be different because one can vary while the other remains the same
I understand why you'd want to do that, but I've seen a lot of trans people and allies say that arguing with transphobes is a bad idea because it gives them an opportunity to squeeze in more of their rhetoric and possibly convince more people that they're right. The best thing to do when seeing transphobia online is to block/report the offender (if you're on a site that allows you to do that) without engaging them, as denying them a platform is far more effective than trying to convince them to let go of their hate.
Yeaa Eliogabalus was Emperor during a time of chaos, they were murdered and replaced quite quickly, which was the norm at the time, so everything in that time period is smushed together and lacks details
"Let me explain why transphobes are wrong about gametes..." uses the word 'gamete' them moves directly to chromosomes, then on to genes, and closes out having said nothing about gametes, explains nothing about them, and thinks he made some point. There are two gametes, an egg and a sperm. There is no third. That's why sex is binary. An infertile or undeveloped sperm or egg is not a third sex. Sex is all about reproduction. Things like hormonal sex and such are termed that way only because of their relationship to reproduction. That's why testosterone is considered a sex hormone and insulin is not. Because insulin plays no role in reproduction and testosterone does. See, when you keep it simple (gametes, reproduction, etc.) the conclusion is clear, but not the one you wanted. That's why you need all this obfuscation and confusion.
@@DuncanCantDie People with dysgenetic gonads (or "steak gonads") have gonads which are underdeveloped. These conditions often have painful complications. Sexual development involves more than just the gonads, so obviously these unfortunate people are clearly distinguishable as the sex into which they were developing. The gonads of children are not fully developed either. Are you often confused by the sex of children? Or do you think they represent a third, or even fourth, sex? (_eyeroll_)
@@jasonlongton1876 I’ve never said there’s a third or fourth sex. That would be a strawman argument. Streak gonads are gonads that contain cells for both female gamete production and male gamete production. Neither functions but it’s impossible to say which one is the “right one”. Are you too stupid to understand what I’m saying? It might be the only explanation here. For something to be a binary there can be *no exceptions*. You don’t need a third option. Someone who is between the two would stop something being a binary. Almost nothing in biology is a binary, biology is far too messy. Sex is a bimodal system, not a binary system. That means there are 2 sexes but people can fall in the middle, with a combination of both characteristics to varying degrees. You’re literally trying to argue genetics with a geneticist, insisting I’m wrong because you’re too stupid to understand the science doesn’t make you right.
@@DuncanCantDie A geneticist?! LOL! Yeah right! Cite your thesis or gto. Ad hominems, appeals to authority, false dichotomies .... Yeah, all the indicia of a charlatan. Let's get this out of the realm of word play. I'll cite some evidence. All mammals have only TWO biological parents, a male and a female. No exceptions, as you demanded. Parse that however you want, but that is evidence of the claim that sex is binary. Calling me stupid does nothing to prove your point. Nobody is doubting that developmental issues sometimes arise. The fact that they do, and that we can diagnose them, describe them, explain how and why they malfunction the way they do, and even sometimes correct them PROVES that they are developmental disorders. Citing unhealthy people does not refute the concept of heath itself! Your argument is the equivalent of disputing that humans are bipedal because you saw a few people getting about in scooters at Walmart.
@@jasonlongton1876 That was fantastic! At this point you should consider making your own video so your refutation of this nonsense isn't buried in the comment section...
This guy can't even keep sex and gender straight within his own video. It seems you guys need to work on that before telling other people how to speak.
i really appreciate the explanations/education of this topic, but as a critisism, i would say there's a lot of jabs and insults thrown in that feel kinda eh. like all the times u mention people dropping out of highschool, or how people disagreeing are always just miserable awful people. that may be the case for many, but many people simply genuinely don't understand this stuff, and get very angry reactions to not understanding. It's all a radically different understanding of things than they'v spent their whole lives with, so take that into account and treat them with respect too. to anyone reading: everyone's still human and deserves a certain amount of decency. you'll want it coming your way when you're on the wrong side of a debate/argument, so pls give it to others
@@DuncanCantDie I love how you started with a lecture on words and women & how you understand them but we don’t… and then you proceeded to call us transphobes 😂😂😂😂 why would we be scared of trans people (and don’t say we are scared of them because we don’t understand them)
@@clashshorts9073 what is the primary issue people like you have with trans people? “They’re indoctrinating our children” “They’re a danger to women in bathrooms” “They make me uncomfortable” Sounds like fear to me.
@@DuncanCantDie Maybe if you were a really man (which I’m not btw) you’d understand that it’s a man’s duty to protect women and in the case of men in women’s sports and men in womens bathrooms. I think if you weren’t a condescending asshole who isn’t so focused on saying a bunch of Gobldygook transgender propaganda speaking points you realize that men don’t belong in womens bathroom for womens safety. Just my opinion 😁
@@DuncanCantDie The one I hate the most is when people say 'they identify as Trans to prey on their victims' So, they're not Trans then. They are Cis people. That only proves to show Cis people being complete shit and is not a reflection of the trans population.
So I have a question after listening to the video and This isn't a topic I normally think about but I have no issue with trans people except maybe on one topic and that is male athletes sex changing into females and then participating in women's sports. So my question to you all is does this make me a transphobe?
Studies show that after 2 years of estrogen almost all advantages left from a male puberty no longer exist. This is the science. You can be upset about it but it’s not a scientific standpoint. I’m assuming this upset is over Lia and her recent win? Btw if someone transitioned without ever experiencing a male puberty (hormone blockers to prevent puberty and then HRT to experience a female puberty) there is *no difference at all* from someone who experienced a regular female puberty, should those people be allowed to compete in womens sports? I’m planning a whole separate video on the trans women in sports question because it’s a lot more complex. Hopefully you’ll watch it with an open mind.
@@DuncanCantDie actually I don't know the story about Lia and her recent win. Is this the swimmer that I have been seeing on social media as of late? But I think this opinion had stemmed from way back when a male had transitioned into a female and was competing in mixed martial arts in The female division
11:44 you might want to rethink that analogy, a lot of transphobes absolutely DO think all autistic people are bad and to be eliminated. Have you not seen the right wing think pieces that tried, unsuccessfully, to link mass shootings and incel culture to autistic people? In fact, the idea that "autistic people = mentally ill, mentally incapable and inferior and bad because not normal" is one of the most common and widespread forms of ableism we have to contend with.
Wth?😭
Yeah it turns out hateful people are hateful to most people
I was going to comment exactly that when I heard it. Anti autism bigotry not only exists, but is on the rise.
@@robokill387 I'm not sure what's worse. Them or parents of trans autistic people who think they're "confused" about their gender due to autism. No matter how capable their offspring might be in their lives, they still think they have the right to "parent-splain" their sons/daughters ' gender identity to them.
Ginger people are more rare than intersex people which means they must be anomalies that deserve zero human rights 🤣
“I feel like a lot of the hate is also specifically towards trans women. I hardly see anything on trans men.” Ong though.
similar how people only seem to target homosexual males
oh, Duncan, i love you. As a trans person i'll say: thanks
Good to see Aphex Twin weighing in on the debate.
This closeted trans person appreciates this well researched and knowledgeable debunk 🥺💜. Hopefully this may help my family not wanna disown me when I come out ~
They're still gonna disown you, bud.
@@blacktigerpaw1 always glad to see I live in you peoples’ heads rent free lol.
@@lillily4655 Not as much as the L you've taken for being disowned from your entire family. Chances are, you won't even see them placed in a nursing home.
I just debunked his debunk, one by one. Welcome!
@@lillily4655 some people I bet you do, I'm "transphobic" or I get called that. I love everyone, including trans people, I just feel bad for you because I know it's not a happy life. It's not a happy existence
It's and illogical emotional argument that's just ruining lives
Hey I had to say this. First who I am I am not ultra conservative or super liberal but this was very informative. I have little to no exposure to the trans community but I am a very tolerant person. Between this and the athlete video I learned a lot and realized maybe I am a bit transphobic due to lack of exposure to these ideas. Thanks I strive to be tolerant but ignorance can be a valid excuse as long as it is not malicious. Thank you for dispelling some ignorance I left left. None of us know and understand everything and every one.
That's why we need to teach them.
Thank *you* for striving for self improvement and respecting us!
Honestly it’s seeing people like you that adds to my hope jar. A thing I noticed is that some people acting transphobic aren’t vile at heart, but they don’t know enough to be aware of how cruel their actions can be. They can grow, but the damage they caused won’t heal so easily.
Thank you for listening instead of reacting with fear and hatred :)
@@spambox3624 I get that. Some of them are misguided or just don't know any better.
@@Rykojames Actually, a lot of biology textbooks support trans people and explain their existence. Plus, the chromosomes don't prove that there is a sexual binary because chromosomal anomalies exist.
@DuncanCantDie thanks for this! Before I start, I don't know if these arguments are necesarily valid but these are some arguments agianst transphobes. They might be wrong or ineffective...(Sorry if it's a lot)
- If hormone blockers or hormone therapy is as bad as they say should people stop from taking chemotherapy if they are a cancer patient? Chemotherapy generates hair lose, illnesses, fatigue and people have died in some cases because of certain sicknesses. Both chemotherapy and hormone blockers are reversable but only one can have the potiential to kill you.
- Without mentioning the name Kaitlyn Genner, tell me how Kaitlyn doing. By default most of time, people including transphones will say she/her. So they just disproved the argument that what defines a woman is solely their biolody. Another way is just them asking who someone is not kwowing they are a trans man or trans woman, later on refering to them as he/him or she/her again without any knowledge of that person's chormosomes, genitalia, etc. So a woman/man is only defined by biology?
- Kids don't and shouldn't transtion at the age of five. To determine if they are going through gender dysphoria, it is sometimes (but not always) linked to anxiery, suicidality, anorexia, and or depression because of the discomfort of having physical characterisitcs or expressing in a way that you don't feel is appropriate. Of course parents or guardians can be radical and force these onto children which I'm not a fan of.
- "What is a woman?" - Some who feels discomfort, in our defitnion, being a man (this also includes Non-binary I suppose) If it's diffcult to give a defitnion, think of being trans as sexuality. Cis is straight and trans is gay. But it's not that black and white either thus a gender spectrum. I don't think there's anything wrong with asking questions, but when people ask that and refuse to ackwoledge it's existance, that's the sign who is trying to fufil a poltiical agenda and or is unwilling to adapt to different people now having rights as well.
- If occasionally trans surgeroy, hormone therapy, etc. goes wrong, why should that mean we should ban it? Should we ban all surgeories, not just for those who are trans but just in general, if only a few of them go wrong?
- I can't imagine a scenireo where people's literal human rights will literally be stripped away from them. What exactly is the end goal? What is the overarching moitvation? What's the gameplan? I don't suspect will get killed (hopefully) but why does it matter how someone identifies as? Even if it is "inacurrate", these people know how physical biology works so what's the big deal here? The only people who need to know this infomaion is in a bioloical setting.
- I know people who are trans or non-binary so even if people believe it's not based in a bioloigcal truth, it's something some have adapted to and hasn't affected our views of how men and women operate. If anything, we've gotten a better understanding of their overall defintions because of the discovery of trans. Transphobia was only created because of people who don't like it. I know the same thing would apply if rascism was never a thing we wouldn't refer to people as white, black, brown, etc. What else has the left "created" that seems to be made for pushing progressivness if being trans is the only thing people don't like?
We are not censoring what a woman is. We've just realized that a woman (or man) is not a linear term. Fingers crossed that in the next few decades (or even just years) this will be accepted as a reality.
I've made * Hormones are Real * stickers after watching this video.
Thank you Duncan ! You deserved the mention !
As a person on side with you, I agree with everything you said, but I’d be careful taking this kind of guns-blazing approach with someone you’re trying to convince. When I was fired up with conservative rhetoric, the last person I’d listen to is the one calling me horrible or evil or stupid. Does that sound like a secure confident person who is seeking a genuine discussion, or “a triggered libtard”?
To be clear, I am *NOT* suggesting we should coddle bigotry: as you yourself point out, bigots are usually scared of the outside world, so if we want them to calm tf down and stop voting for awful stuff, we can’t give them any of the reasons they’re looking for to confirm their fears. It really does fall to us to “be better than them”. If they’re worth your effort, all of the shame you’re trying to lump on them here will come naturally to them through the course of respectful dialogue. If they aren’t, then neither your shame nor their own consciences will do the trick. What this kind of brow-beating does do, however, is further radicalize people by driving them away from what appears to be a bunch of delusional hostiles, facts be damned. Your information is excellent, but your presentation could stand to be a little less scathing
@@ambientjohnny that's a lot of crack you've been smoking, friend.
Duncan supports trans conversion therapy
Excellent point, Vincent. As someone who inevitably sides with the perceived "underdog" and tries to mediate interactions between diverse parties, I thank you deeply.
I totally agree with this! I tried to say something similar, but you're wording is great! (He did not agree with me tho lol)
Thank you for this, I often can't put my feelings about being trans into words so this definitely helped me.
They're not feelings, you're just mentally unwell.
THANK YOU DUNCAN!!! :3 Am currently stuck with stupid parents and have to wait till college to do anything and need videos like this to lift my spirits. Thank you.
Poor you. Those stupid parents, paying your tuition!
@@blacktigerpaw1 automatically assumes they are paying their tuition with no evidence
@@blacktigerpaw1Cool! I just bought you from your parents. Since you're parents have ownership over you!, they have the right to, and they basically view you as a bad investment.
@@donaldbarber3829 Cool, Donald! You're an adult, you don't need to live with ucky parents anymore! Now you can spend your time 'cracking eggs' for young trans teens because of leprechauns like this!
If you're debunking every argument wouldn't it be a 100% speedrun?
truuuu
Who gave you the right to have such an amazing username
It would be, but this clearly wasn't _every_ argument lol
impressive any% though
Duncan supports trans conversion therapy. So he’s not debunking them all.
@@Reisen_Inaba these are just the ones in his comment section.
Last month, WHO changed the diagnosis of transexualism as a mental health issue, to gender incongruence and is now classed as sexual health, in hopes that it will help people seek the appropriate help they need. Meaning there really shouldn't be an argument anymore. Trans people have, and always will be, here to stay.
As a fellow scientist, I loved this video and will definitely share!
Because they were harassed to hell. There was no new science, no new study. They only changed it to make it go stop.
@@djjahhz1037 you understand that for an official change to a diagnostic book used by many countries, there must have been many studies that had to make a strong enough case against a board of top scientists the world over, right? And considering the last diagnostic book came out 18 years ago, that's a lot of research that has been recorded to prove a change is needed. Fascinating how you think that a 1%~ population of the world bullied a global organisation to change one thing though and use it to diminish the work of many scientists to fit your narrative.
@@justaninkling No. There was zero new study. Nothing was proven. It was purely targeted harassment. You cannot be something you're not just because you want to be. Has been this way since time begin and it will continue to be.
@@djjahhz1037 great job not watching the video you commented on.
@@Blaze-nm1uh because it is stupid. Can't be something you're not because you simply want to
What uni did you go to study genetics? I'm just interested, I don't mean to come off in a condescending way
Edit:Why does every other serious comment get a reply except mine😭
Currently writing a thesis for my non-accepting father. This really added a page or more. Thanks!
Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben was the person who created the basis for military drill during the American revolution. He was being persecuted in Prussia for being homosexual and the American gave him a very important job. Almost all American military drill and ceremony is heavily based off what he made for them almost 250 years ago.
c...cool?
Just a note; the word "wif", from which "woman" partly descends, does not mean "wife". It means "woman"; so the word wifman meant "woman-person".
The problem with the argument: "just say you don't like it", is that they don't like it because they don't understand it. If they would, they would see no problem with it...
That trans emperor of rome story sounds like it would make a sick anime.
I don't know why.
i agree 10/10 would watch
i'd watch it
You know I’m personally not too interested in anime but that would be really cool
It's kinda sad they got murdered after 5 years of being emperor. Rome was a complete mess during that period
@@Ly.. Elagabalus has many public sex scandals and supported slavery and eunuchs alongside mainly partying instead of running the country
Indian pronunciations were fine. Important note: While "hijra" is term of some historicity and relgiousity it is also used as a slur because even independant of Victorian era prudishness the LGBTQIA+ community were and are still treated as deviants and outcastes. As an upper caste brahmin cisgender male, after I was born there was a ritual involving visits from trans women (trans men are under-represented even within this group) and as I grew up my parents were able to show me how poorly they are and have been treated despite being an inalienable part of the "hindu" community.
I'm glad you brought them up, but I would caution against interpreting their acknowledgement, presence in some folklore and myths as any form of normalization of the trans experience because there are major strides still needed to break phobias and prejudices even in India. Being a step ahead means very little when it comes to trans liberation.
Edit: Reworded some bits as I didn't like how they read.
oh for sure! trans people around the world are still suffering from british imperialism ):
it's a shame the traditional term became a slur, is there a better term or is it trying to be reclaimed? :)
@@missberyl Tricky, that, because I think most inclusive terms are mostly the same english ones. Plus, its India, I'm fluent in two of its several dozen languages, and Bangla / Hindi don't really have many gender inclusive terminology afaik. I would happily defer to anyone better educated on this from India to share their comments.
Fun fact: hijira is a separate gender, Indians weren't crazy like the woke and called them women.
That's worth pointing out but how they are or were treated is irrelevant to the argument that they have existed historically in nearly all cultures.
@@wyntyrmute What has not existed is the concept of gender fluid or that there is such thing as gender.
I will point out as an Trans ally that your first “Debunk” is “words change meaning overtime.” Argument is terrible because If I say someone who has Cancer and define it someone who can’t drive and then justify it by saying “words change.”
Respectfully, you're not getting it. Of course you can use words differently from their commonly accepted meaning, but that doesn't mean that you changed their meaning, just that you're using them wrong. The 'correct' meaning of words is, in practice, determined by consensus of the speakers. A word means what people agree it means, because if it didn't, it couldn't be used to communicate this agreed-upon meaning. What's meant by "Words can change meaning over time" is that if enough people use a word wrong, over time this new usage can become equally as correct as, or even replace the original 'correct' meaning. We can even observe this with words like 'gay', which previously meant 'happy' but through continued usage to describe homosexuals gained the meaning of 'homosexual'.
@@husky0098 huge problem with the language argument is in order for this to work speakers have to argee on a word the problem being the people your debating are also speakers of the language which determines what words mean (their a big enough population to matter absolutely.)
Then the word changed and it does not have to original meaning cuz the first one is not being used anymore so you agree😂
@@carved6749 Slang is not codified by people democratically voting it, it makes its way into “official” vocabulary through everyday usage and exposure. This isn’t France man, we don’t have a dedicated language board, it’s just a matter of time until new words get added into “official” dictionaries. There is a reason Urban Dictionary exists: It has a wide slew of problems and there’s a lot of memes that destroy the experience, but it still fulfills the role of defining new slang and its usage. “Awesome” was slang. Now it’s considered an informal but perfectly valid adjective to use.
“You” was the formal way to address subjects, with thee and thou being informal and usage as a subject and an object respectively. Many modern translations of the Bible still use thee and thou, and the original intention was to make God seem more personable and close to the average, non-noble person. Now, we associate the terms thee and thou with fancy, flowery language, due to the drift in language and gradual phasing out of old vocabulary. English as a language has evolved greatly, with Early Modern English being a bit hard but definitely possible for the average modern speaker to understand, Middle English being recognizable only ever couple words, and Old English seeming downright indecipherable to anyone who hasn’t studied it.
Language is going to change. It always will. That doesn’t mean words don’t still have the original meaning in their original contexts and knowing that definition isn’t important in literary analysis, but refusing to acknowledge linguistic change is, to put it in Modern English, cringe.
@@carved6749But words also have different definitions depending on the subject discussed. If I mention that this person I know is a racist, I'm clearly referring to personal attitudes and possibly beliefs that they hold and express. Whereas if I refer to racism as a concept, I'm generally referring to systemic aspects of society, that will certainly be INFORMED by people's personal attitudes and beliefs, but cannot be reduced to it.
I have an interesting perspective on the other definition of woman, where a woman is "someone who has qualities traditionally associated with females." I think that definition works for all women, because you could say one of those qualities is simply just being female. Another could be the societal norms and social constructs of gender. Either way, it works, and I think that should be the definition as society progresses along. It's the one I always subscribe to (and I use a similar one for men as well).
What are qualities associated with women?
@@Draglox I've asked under what parameters is a transwoman a woman, and all I get are sex stereotypes and "because I say so."
@@blacktigerpaw1 someone who identifies as a woman/ and someone who would like their sex characteristics to appear as female
@@blacktigerpaw1 I am a trans male but enjoy stereotypical feminine things
I identify as a man because I prefer my body to be as close to a biological man's body as it can get
@@eehee2428 You don't have a 'biological male body' because you don't have a Y chromosome or an SRY gene. You underwent Mullerian development.
What about your transition will make you 'closer to a biological man'?
Thank you so much for making this video Duncan. Very educational and super important content like this is being made and shared. I went ahead and marked the timestamps to the best of my ability for the arguments you debunked to make it as easy as possible for people who need to come back to this as a resource to navigate:
1:30 - Debunking the “What is a Women?” argument
3:40 - Duncan’s Scientific Qualifications
4:11 - Debunking the “biological” / “genetics” arguments against trans people
13:39 - Debunking the “trans people didn’t exist in history” argument/ sociological arguments against trans people
20:50 - Conclusion/ Outro
Transwomen are male, that is their sex. We know because their sex was determined at fertilization.
A woman is an adult human female. Duncan knows what females are in lab mice when he experimented on them. He didn't come from a 'birthing person', he came from a woman.
Yes, he's got an MA in genetics but isn't doing anything with it, and thinks karyotypes are separate sexes.
Hey Duncan can you not always bring up the "dropped out of highschool" thing. It really devalues those (like myself) who dropped out for mental health reasons or other non "you just stupid" reasons. I consider myself a leftist and agree with most things you say...but the "dropout" stereotype really gets on my nerves
This guy seems to be sabotaging his own message by insulting the people hes trying to convince to change their minds.Its a shame.
Strongly agree with this. I dropped out my second year to enroll in college, finished my degree before 19. People who drop out don't always do it because they can't hack it. Hell, my dad was kicked out of highschool, in his senior year, cause he got my mom pregnant.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 yeah it also is insulting toward those, like me, who needed to for mental health reasons
@@MelodyTCG sorry, didn't mention that cause you already brought it up, though I probably should have.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 oh I was just adding to yours didn't know I already mentioned it
I love this! Another one I typically see is “archeologists will not care when they dig up your bones in the future”. Ridiculous transphobes
TIL about trans and gay historical figures. Thanks for this Duncan.
Duncan supports trans conversion therapy
I know I'm hella late, but I just got the joke that you used to name your tyranitar short bus cuz it was the special attacker...HA HA HA...I'm sorry
As a "transphobe" I found this video to be extremely underwhelming and unconvincing.
0:50 He starts off by equivocating on the word transphobe. He has defined transphobe in other videos as "anyone who is not willing to say that trans women are women". He then defined transphobe here as someone who "is scared of people and ideas that are different, and want to blame trans people for their own pathetic existence". Why is he pretending that these two are the same things? Believing in the first definition does not necessitate belief in the second
1:50 He almost immediately contradicts himself by now saying that defining woman as "adult human female" is a valid definition. So does this mean accepting this definition makes you a transphobe? Because saying "trans women are not women" fits perfectly into that admitted valid definition
He then goes to lay out an example of why sex is not binary, but in the process actually proves that sex is binary
7:27 He says if "Sox9 is active, you'll get a "boy" (I don't know why he using a gendered term when should have just said "male").
7:37 He again conflates sex and gender by referring to this person as a "boy" despite the fact that this is a gender term
8:14 For a third time, he refers to this person as a "boy", instead of properly using the sex term "male". I can't tell if this is a mistake, or if he believes "boy" is a sex term
He then explains the process of how we can have an XX male and an XY female based on the presence of Sox9. But guess what? This only further proves that sex is binary. An XX male and XY female perfectly fits within the idea that every human is either male or female, and it seems that Duncan agrees, so how exactly does he see this as an argument against the sex binary?
9:04 He then concludes that "sex is super complicated". What he really should have said is "for a small minority of people who develop atypically, sex determination can be very complicated and technical to determine. However, each of these people are still determined to be either male or female". But of course, saying that would be "transphobic"
Then he goes on to his brain example
12:07 He claims that the existence of a male body in a female brain proves transgenderism, but this is simply untrue. Just like someone can have male-typical chromosomes despite still being considered a female (as he explained earlier), someone with a male-typical brain would still be considered female. I don't how this is a knock-down argument.
12:20 Then he says "if you agree that male brains and female brains are basically the same, then gender identity is just a social construct". First of all, you can accept and believe that gender is a social construct while still being critical of transgenderism if you believe that gender is still grounded and dependent on sex. Secondly, proving that something is a social construct does not prove that is it simply a matter of subjective personal identity. Take race for example, it is very much a social construct that humans have devised, and where we draw the boundaries is ultimately arbitrary. And while a Japanese brain is "basically the same" as a Nigerian brain, it's a huge logical to leap to say "therefore, you can be a Japanese person in a Nigerian body". And "trans-Nigerians are Nigerians" and anyone who disagrees is a transphobe.
gender ≠ sex. just answered like half of your questions.
@@watchmebonkit2168 Can you explain more? My impression was that male/female were sex, and man/woman boy/girl were gender terms. So I accepted the distinction, and showed how he failed to stay consistent with it.
@@Seethi_C even if they could, it would most likely raise more questions and doubts than answers and confirmations.
@@Seethi_C honestly the whole trans movement feels like a religion or cult of some sort. They say ask questions, then get triggered by basic questions or commonly used words such as period. As someone whose trying to understand these people and hopefully come to some sort of compromise, when I ask questions I dont understand, I'm called transphobic.
I've also gotten a lot of hate and threats for not wanting to and turning down dating trans woman. Why should I or anyone else be forced into accepting a lifestyle that I wouldn't or ever be associated with?
@@jamelholmes885 Agreed, it's like a brand new religion that still hasn't crafted a coherent view or used consistent vocabulary
1:30 Definition of woman
3:39 Biology
13:38 History
That is an incredible video title. Seeing that pop up on my phone had me click immediately
What do you mean, there are multiple definitions of woman? There is no such thing as a male wife, when a man gets married they become a husband. What makes women different from men?
I mean there are literally multiple definitions of the word woman. As listed in every dictionary known to man. Many words have multiple meanings. Are you ok?
@@DuncanCantDie If there are multiple definitions, what are they then? How do you explain what a woman is without using the word woman?
@@BlueAxeRacer I literally read the definition out from the Oxford English Dictionary in the first 2 mins of the video.
Are you OK? Do you need help? Do you have some kind of memory issue?
@@DuncanCantDie That's the OED definition. Can you put it in your own words?
@@BlueAxeRacer … no because I don’t personally decide the definition of words in the English language. I’m not delusional like you are. I accept the reality of the meaning of words.
Preach it
As a trans girl who came out like 2 and a half months ago, I hope this video will help my family understand me (I didn’t watch it yet, I’ll reply to this comment once I’m finished watching).
So it’s good 👍 nice
If your purpose was to educate or meaningfully "debunk" any arguments you wouldn't be making a clown out of yourself by wearing your bad faith badges of condescension and eagerness to insult from the get-go. Transphobia and transphobic arguments are as true to the people believing them as "wokeness" is true to those who believe it. Insulting, pretending to know better and whatnot doesn't "debunk" an argument, it adds fuel to the fire.
Awww. Did it hurt your Wickle feewings snowflake?
Doesn’t matter if it did. Science is fact based. Something “being as true” to bigots because they ignore science is meaningless.
What a pile of drivel lmao.
@@ambientjohnny Why do you keep ignoring pro-trans research, huh?
Seriously, we could be having the same argument about Eugenics.
Nobody is listening to your claims because they are outdated and proven incorrect by anyone with more than five IQ points. Stay in your lane.
@@ambientjohnny He is talking about the concept that people are trans are real not that they transition. Is the transition process perfect? No but if that's the case, should we stop giving cancer patients chemotherapy? It can lead to hair lose, infertility, illnesses, infections, and even die in some cases. It's obviously not perfected either. So should we halt anyone from using them? Hormone blockers or hormone therapy is incapable of literally killing the person who is taking it. What's the difference here?
Tell me about it... I can't even count how much misinformed ignorance I see in RUclips shorts regarding trans people and LGBT over all.
Speaking of definitions...doesn't Phobia mean fear? I can disagree with a person's ideologies without fearing them, right? We don't call democrats republicanphobes..so why are we labeling people who disagree with trans ideologies "transphobes"?
Because the justification for disagreeing with the ideologies is always a fear. Explain why you’re against trans rights, ideologies and acceptance without fear mongering. The scientific community says trans people are valid so you can’t use the “it’s against science” excuse, so why are you against it?
@@DuncanCantDie I am telling you the absolute truth when I say that I feel bad for them. The belief that they need to change something so fundamental ( of course in most cases changing your ways or bettering yourself is an important thing) to their being just makes me feel sorry for them. As far as being against trans rights..I just dont think confusing topics should be pushed on younger children. If a child is curious about the opposite gender..and then their parents say they could become the opposite sex that could confuse them. However I am not against them having the basic rights all humans deserve. And thanks for taking the time to respond. (I do believe in intelligent design as well..just full disclosure)
@@jessegarnertheopinionated544 ah, so you’re afraid of the “trans agenda” “corrupting children”.
Sounds like an unreasonable and unfounded fear to me. That’s a phobia my friend. You are a transphobe.
@@DuncanCantDie So therefore would all democrats be a ( made up word here) republicanphobe..or vice versa?
@@jessegarnertheopinionated544 no, disliking people for what they’re choosing to do is not a “phobia”. You are scared of the existence of trans people. You’re scared of a myth about indoctrination and conversion, something that is the opposite of fact.
Republicans are just pieces of shit. They’re just shitty people who want to oppress and control people with a theocratic state. There’s no myth there. It’s their outspoken messaging. They literally claim it to be their plan.
Duncan, what's the best argument for when someone says that sex is a spectrum and they come up with the stupidity "Oh but having 1 or 3 arms isn't".
@@pootakhu Binary means no exceptions, tell them to use a computer with binary code but with the occasional 2 in it. See how it works out for them.
This video is a great summary of some basic scientific concepts around the theme. It would be cool to have some reading recommendations of scientific articles in the description too for anyone who wants to start learning more about it from here.
LONG BUT WORTH READING
1) every definition refers to the normal state. Otherwise you cant define anything, for example you wouldn't be able to say that humans have 5 fingers because some have 6.
About the fact that men and women have differnt brains, thats a fact, but there cant be a male brain in a female body without any genetical abnormality since body and brain are essentially developed simultaneously and dependent on the same genetical factors.
2) The inaccuracies and fallacies dont end here, they also exstends to the cultures you so desperately try to convince us were widespread through history and the world.
First of all just because some women/men lived their lives fullfilling roles that are usually associated with the opposite gender it doesn't mean they were trans in any way.
(And don't get me started on Greco-Roman gods, it's simply unfair and absurd to portrait them as proof that trans people existed or "were praised" since anyone who is well educated can tell you that greek gods origin stories and myths are absolutely crazy, just as a reference a goddess was born from the amputated penis that was thrown in the sea. Same for northern Gods, they had the power to disguise themselves in anything, just because they disguised themselves as women, that doesn't mean they were trans 🙄)
Furthermore you can't claim that Thai/indian culture recognises these practices since Thailand and india or basically any country that you mentioned has or has had vastly different cultures and religious practices depending on the region and time period.
So no, thai culture for example doesnt include transgenderism.
(Btw transgenderism as intended by the videos author (modern transgenderism) is definitely NOT what the cultures transgenderism is about if it can even be called that way since i already explained how in most cases it doesnt even have anything to do with what the author inteds)
3) Stop saying gay/black people invented things they haven't invented or acomplishments they havent achieved
Alan turing hasnt invented the computer (it was the Antikythera machine if we talk about computer in the broad term) ( the first modern computer was invented by
Charles Babbage)
And Germany would have lost the war even if the allies would have cracked the enigma code.
(I could explain why but ill just state: soviet union)
4)
Christianity isnt about hating gay people or trans people, its about the word of the gospel which doesn't say explicitly that being gay is bad, but it is listed as adultery which is a sin. [Exodus 20:14 ten commandments].
Same goes for transgender people, God created man and woman [Genesis 1:27].
Christianity isn't even about persecuting people, [Leviticus 19:18] “Love Your Neighbor as Yourself”.
Many people then will say that telling gay/trans people they shouldn't sin is hateful and by the same logic it goes against loving your neighbour. This is also wrong because by saying that being gay is a sin we are actually helping these people redeem themselves in Jesus Christ and Faith.
Hope i shined some light on this very biased video.
Lmaoooo the Babbage machines were all single purpose. Alan Turing invented the multipurpose computer which is the father of modern computers. The Babbage machines used completely different mechanisms and processes and relate to modern computing very little.
I’m a geneticist. I’ll trust my professors, my supervisors and the scientific community on what makes up a scientific definition. Not some idiot who calls things “genetical factors” (which is not a term and genetical isn’t even a word)
Transgenderism has existed and does exist in their cultures. There is no difference at the core between any of these cultures because they’re all just acknowledging a group of people that exists.
It was a long post of yours. It was not worth the read. You spouted unsubstantiated nonsense filled with logical, spelling and grammatical errors in a desperate attempt to seem intelligent enough to discuss this topic with me.
You are not.
@@DuncanCantDieit's nice to see your answer, and I can't pretend to be a biology expert, I'm just citing what other experts have said on the matter, I wasn't rude to you while writing it, I just underlined the fallacies that are in your videos.
By pointing out my grammatical mistakes (English is not my first language) and your opinion that "I'm not smart" You haven't posed a threat to my claims, you have also ignored the fact that my points are factual and cannot be debated, completely forgetting that big historical "whoops" of yours.
If Alan Turing invented the computer depends on your definition of computer, I'd say he contributed to it greatly, but didn't invent it even if it did, that wasn't my point, you just used the fact that he was a very intelligent person that got basically killed because he was gay to discredit Christianity and Christian theology.
Ps genetical factors being XX and XY genes, and no, not all Indian cultures acknowledge transgenderism and I said in my first comment that even the ones who do cant be compared to modern day transgenderism.
@@chadhuman982 you might not be an expert in biology but I am. I have a masters degree in genetics specialising in medical molecular genetics.
You haven’t backed up any of your arguments at all. You haven’t posted one study. You haven’t posted one piece of evidence. You have only given unsubstantiated claims. If that is your standard for proof then I challenge you to disprove the following statement:
Every Wednesday night Jesus Christ descends from heaven so I can fuck him in the arse until he cums buckets.
By your own logic and premise *if you cannot disprove this you are admitting it is true*
Which means I’m balls deep in your lord and saviour every Wednesday so if you ever want to go to heaven you better be careful how you speak to me.
@@pileobones2842 why are you such a coward? I responded to your other comment. Why did you run here instead? Did my reply hurt your feelings so you had to pretend it didn’t exist?
@@pileobones2842 “I didn’t need the last bit of info”
The bit where I pointed out that you’re a failure in every aspect of your life.
You do need that info little bro. So you can get your life together.
one thing that i absolutely dont like as a enby trans woman is that most of the time the transphobes are also very ableist as well and go after autistic trans people like myself and call us the r word and just infantilize us by stating that "we are too dumb to know what sex and gender is" in their eyes which ofc is complete bollox as any autistic person would tell you cos we see gender completely differently than neurotypical people which is why some of the community uses neopronouns like xie/xer (even though transphobes hate neopronouns cos according to them neopronouns dont exist which i always laugh at since most neopronouns are from Old English).
i found this video very informative and it certainly debunked everything what the transphobes always say, also another thing to add to the history of trans people part is the Institute of Sexual Research (which researched anything and everything to do with LGBT) which was founded by Magnus Hirschfeld (who was gay himself) in the 1910-20s Germany and was based in Berlin where trans people where treated like any other human being until ofc 1933 (which ofc everyone knows about what happened that year).
seeing this video has helped me be happy for the first time in awhile cos im so scared about what the UK (our home country government i mean) will do next to screw over my rights to exist so thank you for that Duncan, keep up the great content and i hope this ramble kinda made sense since i was typing without thinking XD
3:57 me who hated biology but instead of dropping out of highschool I went to college to major in math like a psychopath
Math at uni is hell. I feel for you.
(opens up a textbook)
*_I have the power!_*
*starts the video with ad hominem screeching*
Yeah I'm not watching.
No one asked you too dumbfuck. Transphobes are terrified of science anyway, you wouldn’t have made it all the way through.
@@DuncanCantDie LMAO seethe harder. I suggest touching some grass to gain social skills before trying to be Vaush 2.0.
@@fransliszt the terminally online sock puppet account troll commenter is telling me to seethe and get social skills?
OK. Go cry on twitter some more about how no women will fuck you. Lmao.
"Wut is wahmen???"🤣🤣🤣
You're doing the lord's work. Thank you for being our ally.🏳️⚧️❤
gotta be world record
Uh, yeah, random internet guy here. If sex isn't binary then why is it that every mammal that has ever lived only has TWO biological parents, a male and a female?
Am I the only one who noticed how he seamlessly moved from gametes into chromosomes? Little slight of hand allowing you to make a conclusion you wouldn't otherwise be able to make. Cute!
Define male and female in a way that has 0 exceptions.
That’s what a binary is, if sex is binary it should be very easy.
@@DuncanCantDie I’ve already done better than provide definitions. I’ve provided evidence. All mammals have only *TWO* biological parents, a male and a female. No exceptions.
Parse that however you want, but it demonstrates sex is binary.
Your turn! Please provide the exception, a homo sapien with more than two biological parents. If sex is non-binary "it should be very easy"!
@@jasonlongton1876 The virgin mary. Ok for real though, while not mammals, there are plenty of aninals that can reproduce parthenogenically or hermaphroditically. The only reason mammals can't reproduce parthenogenically is because of this weird thing embryos do during gestation called genomic imprinting.
Not to mention, intersex people literally exist and can reproduce. Like. Are you stupid?
But anyway thats besides the point. As the creator literally said in this very video, what you are describing is sex determination on a species wide level (smaller vs larger gametes). Sex determination in individuals works differently
Because sexual dimorphism is an excellent way for a population to retain both diversity and stability in that population. Essentially, it's a lucky accident, reinforced by millions of years of evolution, which also resulted in mutations to our brains that in most cases "set" both orientation and gender identity.
Perfect now i can just link this video everytime i argue with transphobes
I've already said why this isn't a good idea (though I understand why you'd want to do it) in a reply to a comment like this, so I'll just copy and paste my point here: I've seen a lot of trans people and allies say that arguing with transphobes is a bad idea because it gives them an opportunity to squeeze in more of their rhetoric and possibly convince more people that they're right. The best thing to do when seeing transphobia online is to block/report the offender (if you're on a site that allows you to do that) without engaging them, as denying them a platform is far more effective than trying to convince them to let go of their hate.
@@zaphhydro actually i would argue sending this video and then ignoring would be better in hopes it educates them
Expecting the transphobe to watch 22 minutes of video about how they're wrong is wishful thinking just ratio them on twitter
i dont think any normal person would gladly watch a video with a guy calling them an idiot
@@pit_solitayrh3718 I'll do it, and then I'll tell the people thinking this is an own this guy knows what a woman is when he wants to get them fired.
Hey, nothing major, but the native American tribe you spoke about, the Iroquois, is pronounced like eerie-koi and not ear-a-kwa
appreciate it. I suck at pronunciations lol.
@@DuncanCantDieNative American words are extremely difficult to learn.
I expected a lab coat but hey I love a good science discussion.
This is like a super nit picky point, but for who Duncan is addressing it makes sense they wouldn't know this.
But technically the male seahorse does not give birth per say. The female deposits the eggs in the males pouch and fertilizes the eggs, then when the eggs hatch the baby seahorses leave the pouch.
So to the dummies he's addressing it would make sense to say the male seahorse gives birth because it looks that way.
But in broad stroke of an example it basically right without getting technical.
Now to finish watching the video :D
So the argument is that a seahorse doesn't accept his sex, takes hormones, calls himself male and goes on to have babies because he's actually female but wants to be called she? Cos if not, I don't see how it's relevant to the trans situation.
This is excellent, though I'm a Trans ally, I found difficult to answer how if you look at chromosomes blah blah blah.... To be honest I didn't look deep enough into the topic, but now you have provided me with the missing piece of the puzzle. Thx a lot for educating me.
@@Ken-ki no worries :)
You used the *_appeal to authority_* logical fallacy when you declared that you're a geneticist. If that's what you're using override people's arguments, who "wins"?
*"As a biologist, there are two sexes and that's all there is to it." - Richard Dawkins, world famous evolutionary biologist*
That’s not how appeal to authority works you dumbass lmao. Saying “I’m a geneticist so I know about genetics, here’s some genetics facts” is not an appeal to authority.
I really wish idiots like you had never been taught that logical fallacies exist. You get it wrong so often it’s embarrassing. I’m sure you even think this comment is “ad hominem” just because it contains insults.
@@DuncanCantDie None of your genetic facts refuted the sex binary
@@Seethi_C sex =\= gender
@@DuncanCantDie So you agree that sex is binary?
@@DuncanCantDie But why resort to insults tho? Weird how trans ppl and trans allies are more hateful than "transphobes". Most "transphobes" simply think that there are 2 genders and you cant switch gender, it doesnt come from hate. But here you go misrepresenting our point and making us even less convinced of the gender ideology
The part about Joe Rogan being on HRT is the most based
If I see someone as ugly should I be forced to call them pretty?
I would say to me a male and female are based on a persons reproductive roll, the reason I go based off this is that beyond this these words have no meaning otherwise in my mind.
As for pronouns I believe them to be similar in nature to words like cool, pretty and ugly, by that I mean that one doesn't denote whether that they are these things, one can call themselves pretty and ask other too as well, but these thing come from how others identify you rather then you identifying yourself. Basically two people can call the same person both a he or she and neither would be wrong, same way two people can call the same person ugly or pretty and neither would be wrong.
Luckily what “you see” as the meaning of things doesn’t determine their meaning.
You’re wrong. You’re stupid. You’re delusional.
Stay fucking mad you loser. Lmaoooooo.
@@DuncanCantDie Ah but it does, as the meaning of what is pretty is different from person to person and changes era to era based on society, these are words that purely get their definition from how people define them.
I must say as a so called debater you bring a lot of emotion and ad hominems to your reply with no attempt at backing up your argument, this does a disservice to trans people or any other you might support as the way you conduct yourself allows no discourse, which leads to no progression in your favour and infact would more likely lead to the reverse thus harming the trans ideology.
One last question if I were to call you a she and say I saw you as a woman how would you convince me otherwise?
@@liquid47 let me clarify a few things for your dumb ass:
1) I refuted every point you made because you made precisely one point.
2) yes, society as a whole determines the definition of words, however you as an individual deciding your definition, which doesn’t line up with any societal norm, does not.
3) ad hominem is a term you morons throw around a lot. At no point have I engaged in ad hominem. You should do some reading and try to figure out the difference between ad hominem and insults. They are in fact different things. Ad hominem is when you use the insult *as your argument* which I’ve done at no point.
So again. Stay mad you dumb fuck lmao.
@@DuncanCantDie So then lets say if a large majority of people defined a woman as an adult human female as in relation to their reproductive role, would that not now make it accurate to say that a man thus cannot be a woman as society has deemed it so.
Also ad hominem definition:
(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
"an ad hominem response"
adverb
1.
in a way that is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
Now tell me in what way is this "You’re wrong. You’re stupid. You’re delusional. Stay fucking mad you loser. Lmaoooooo." attacking my position?
Even then if most people use ad hominem as to mean, attack a person character rather then their argument, does this not also define its definition, as this is how society uses these words, words their meaning or gain new meanings constantly as is being done now with the definition of woman, by no means is this bad, this is just what happens with time.
@@liquid47 because I didn’t say “you’re wrong. You’re stupid. Etc” *instead* of addressing your argument. I did it *as well as* therefore it is not an ad hominem logical fallacy. Again, if you don’t understand a term then don’t use it.
In response to your first question… I answer that *at length* in this video. Is your memory defective?
Completely unrelated to your main argument but Alan Turing didn’t invent computers, that was Ada Lovelace who was not given the credit she deserved because she was a woman
Ada Lovelace definitely did a lot of work and laid down the fundamentals of coding using Charles Babbages machines, which laid the foundation for computers but the first “computer” in the modern sense, as in the basic functional layout with “processors” and “ram” was enigma. Obviously Turing built on existing concepts and was a fan of Lovelaces work but I think that there is a point where making something actually function as a general “logic engine” is where you have to draw the line of “this is where computers started”
Otherwise we have to go all the way back to BC for the first computers. (The ancient computer from antikythera)
@@DuncanCantDie the enigma is not a computer in the modern sense. A computer needs to be programmable. The theoretical machine of Ada was a computer and so was bubbage's. But if it can't be programmed in some way, it's not a computer, it's just a machine. The enigma could be configured to change the encryption "key" but it still only did one type of encryption.
Computer scientists use "turing-completeness" as a test to see if something is a computer or not. Minecraft redstone is turing complete. The enigma machine is not. (also the enigma doesn't have a processor nor does it have "ram" though it does has memory in the form of the rotors)
@@Metruzanca i think Duncan just made a mistake when saying Enigma and actually meant Bombe, seeing as he was talking about what was created by Turing
@@kittengold9814 Ah yeah, does look like he was talking about Bombe. I just got caught up on the name.
There is not one inventor of the computer. Like it is with most inventions, there were several people who worked on different early kinds of computers
Thank you for this!
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bro thought he cooked with this one
The fact you said this unironically makes you about as pathetic as a human can be.
Touch grass, get laid, stop living a life of hate.
@@DuncanCantDie he isn’t coming back from this one, DAMN!
really cool video! it was educational AND entertaining. Very epic, will be my goto to explain trans stuff to people
Good luck, we'll laugh
@@blacktigerpaw1 You've been coming back to this video for two months just to reply with your bigotry
God transphobes are so funny
@@BeeLy1011 So funny you are now crying genocide whenever you don't get what you want.
But go ahead, cite the Potato Man here. We'll laugh at these shitty arguments.
@@BeeLy1011 when he has nothing else in life to look forward to, what do you expect? Lol
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What is your counter argument to, “you can’t change your race. So why can you change your gender?”
Because when you use that dumbfuck argument you’re not actually talking about “race” as a social construct, you’re talking about it as an ethnicity, race is used to mean both in modern language. You absolutely can grow up in any culture and be part of it regardless of your ethnicity, but ethnicity is biological.
You can’t change your biology, no one is claiming you can change your biological sex, just like you can’t change your biological “race” (ethnicity).
It’s an obfuscating argument used by idiots to try and dodge the facts rather than address them but it is easily countered if you don’t let the idiots shout over you.
Hope this helped.
@@DuncanCantDie Yes I agree you cannot change your biological sex or ethnicity. I hate how transphobes think biological sex=gender. Gender is both social and biological, however the mistake transphobes make is thinking that chromosomes determine the gender of a person. I think that the way the brain works plays a big factor your gender. But I may be wrong. I'm not really a biologist, but even I know more than transphobes who thinks sex=gender.
Thank you for making this video. This is both fascinating and (for lack of a better word) reassuring. Coming from a family full of people with STEM backgrounds (biology and chemistry included), transphobes' "science is on my side" arguments are the ones that always intimidated me most because of my own biases. Turns out, those arguments rely on a surface-level and/or twisted understanding of science. It reminds me a little of how super-capitalists often claim "economics* is on their side" and when you press them further all they have to justify themselves with is "supply and demand" (much like how transphobes parrot "boy XY girl XX" sound bites) and nothing deeper.
*I was an economics major as an undergraduate and continue to study it on the side as a grad student.
nothing like lying about human evolution to own the TERFs.
Transwomen aren't women.
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Dude if you're gay, just own it! No need to make a whole video about it.
You’re letting your fantasies get ahead of you again. I know I’m hot but sadly for you I’m already married. You can continue to thirst from afar though.
Thank you. I need this to help my friends
@Liam Parkos Exactly
@Liam Parkos Lying about human evolution doesn't help your cause.
@Liam Parkos What, exactly, do you define as Transphobia?
@@blacktigerpaw1
I don’t acknowledge it. It’s a made-up term used as a political club to attack anyone who doesn’t accept their wracked ideology. They think they can just slap “phobe” at the end of a word and make it some kind of legitimate “condition”…when they encounter resistance to their social re-programming.
@@Draglox that's pretty easy, a man is someone who exhibits masculine qualities and a woman is someone who exhibits feminine qualities. Fem qualities are usually submissiveness, emotional sensitivity, things like that. Masc qualities are usually competitiveness, stoicism, and a lot of the time aggression but that's been changing.
The truth is what it means to be a man or a woman is changing. It has been changing for at least the past century and probably longer than that. If you opened your mind and accepted that things change regardless of what you feel you'd see how truly good our world is and can be
Hey, Duncan! You've always been a favorite of mine, but recently I've really enjoyed your content. I suppose it helps that I'm trans myself, but regardless: Thank you for your work!
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This was a great video Duncan, explained everything extremely well, enjoyed watching it 🙌
I've never thought about the brain biology argument that way
I mean if your mind functions as a gender are does the reality of what the self is categorize as within that aspect?
Why does EVERY political issue have a point wherein an important idea rests on whether a person's physical aspect is a brain or a body 😭😿
5:48 every definition refers to the normal state. Otherwise you can't define anything. How many fingers does a human hand have? We don't know because there are people who have 6 fingers
Exactly he’s arguing for the exception usually the first definition is the pre-eminent
The point is defining a human based on how many fingers they have is silly.
I fucking love you dude
I’m an idiot and don’t know much about this subject, but I would love to hear you and Ben Shapiro go head to head. If I were a betting man, my money would be on Shapiro to prove you wrong. Again, I’m an idiot just stating my opinion.
At least you’re aware that you’re an idiot.
Shapiro, a failed lawyer turned failed actor turned right wing demagogue and mouthpiece role playing as a “good jew” while ignoring the Torah debating biology with me, a guy with a masters degree in genetics. If you think he would “prove me wrong” then you care about feelings, not facts.
@@DuncanCantDie hey 💩face let's talk about Lia Thomas😀
Shapiro would win very easily.
No response? Typical.
@@mw4262 Has it occured that one person might be busy?
Duncan, I hope this isn't too ignorant of a question: You have noted that gender identity is entirely a social construct, and is effectively immutable after a certain age. Would that not suggest that a person's brain could be predisposed to develop in some range on the spectrum of gender identity but highly influenced by external factors? Or is brain development so complex that making such a conclusion is a hopeless task?
The reason I ask is that I find the concept of "abnormality" a little strange. It may be useful as a handy categorization for a specific characteristic, but as I live in deep red Texas, "abnormality" is almost a pejorative term. Yet we wouldn't be here without millions of years of gajillions of "abnormalities". And that includes the non-beneficial ones. So why are some of them vilified? I mean - would I be correct by saying that "having some sort of abnormality" is the norm?
In the context of the trans discussion, I want to be on solid ground in arguing that not only would it be normal to see a number of people whose gender identity is different from their birth sex, we should actually expect it.
Gender is a social construct that is *informed by* societal norms that are pushed on/expected of members of a certain sex.
That means there will always be people who identify outside of these norms or who identify with the norms not expected of their biological sex. When it comes to whether it should be “expected” or not I think it’s not really a valuable point to consider. It happens, it has happened throughout history, in every culture that has ever existed.
Another great video Duncan, keep up the good work.
commenting to help with the algorithm. great video duncan!!
The lack of right-wing lunatics in the comments is damning proof that the CEO of transphobia on RUclips had to send his goons after a much smaller channel to defend his fragile view of reality.
Great content as always Duncan. Keep fighting the good fight.
Yeah, didn’t mention Matt Walsh specifically so he didn’t send the squad.
No wonder this guy doesn't have a real job despite a degree in genetics. He can't even grasp the fundamentals.
god tier bait right here
@@veerigo he's arguing in circles the whole video lmao
Thank you for this. I saw this clicked on it immediately and it made me smile seeing this since I'm trans.
Yeah I’m not trans but I just rlly appreciate how I revisited a Pokémon RUclipsr only to see how he’s been trying to make a really good impact on the world.
Ywnbaw
YWNBAW
Don't let transphobes bully and harass you. You are beautiful and valid and should be allowed to identify as the gender you are most comfortable with. Thats called freedom, which I thought right wing conservatives were in favor of LOL
@@msprague91 a phobia would assume someone suffers from a irrational fear of Trans people. You're confusing disgust with fear.
While there is good information in this video good luck changing peoples minds while insulting them. Probably better to just give the information and educate people. I also have a question. I define sex as the method you use to reproduce. Isn't the method you use to reproduce more important than the genes? As there can be xy or xx male or female that to me doesn't seem to be what actually ends up defining what you're born as.
Just as a side note I support trans rights.
So are woman and men who are not capable of reproducing no woman and men?.. Weird theory buddy
@@user-ve7hn2dh8h No that's not what I said. Is an eye that can't see not an eye? Obviously it's still an eye. Same with a woman or man that can't reproduce they still have the parts they just don't function properly. Asking the question is fine putting words in my mouth is not.
*eh-herm*
Transphobia is bad!
*mic drop*
Saying transwomen aren't women isn't hate.
cap
@@blacktigerpaw1 do you refer to them using female pronouns?
@@reptile1687 No, because they are male.
@@blacktigerpaw1 because you hate the idea of them identifying as female?
Positive comment for the algorithm
Can we also mention that mtf stands for “male to female” so by the definition of trans women, they’re female. So yes, they’re “adult human females” by their own argument
The fact the people try and use a dictionary definition to determine their bigotry is ridiculous
I just call them troons, to deny them that. :)
@@alchapwn you call people slurs for just existing?
@@mossypawprints they make up words and definitions and so can I.
@@alchapwn all words are made up :P
@@Pancajayna what are you talking about? When did I “deny” that people are “labelled” differently? What does that even mean?
Thank you!!❤
Bears repeating: this is incredible. Thank you!
Gonna leave a comment here because I can.
I actually learned a lot from this video. I wonder what's the next thing to be vilified.
Transrace.
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As for assuming I don't understand biology, you are wrong. That being said, I totally argee with you, as you are absolutely correct, and you explain it beautifully! Thank you for you insight!
Thank you, Duncan. Love your fervor and passion.
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I’m with you but as someone who didn’t finish highschool I gotta say, don’t punch down.
It’s impossible to insult a transphobe without punching down. They’re practically sub-human.
@@DuncanCantDie As a "transphobe" I found this video to be extremely underwhelming and unconvincing.
0:50 He starts off by equivocating on the word transphobe. He has defined transphobe in other videos as "anyone who is not willing to say that trans women are women". He then defined transphobe here as someone who "is scared of people and ideas that are different, and want to blame trans people for their own pathetic existence". Why is he pretending that these two are the same things? Believing in the first definition does not necessitate belief in the second
1:50 He almost immediately contradicts himself by now saying that defining woman as "adult human female" is a valid definition. So does this mean accepting this definition makes you a transphobe? Because saying "trans women are not women" fits perfectly into that admitted valid definition
He then goes to lay out an example of why sex is not binary, but in the process actually proves that sex is binary
7:27 He says if "Sox9 is active, you'll get a "boy" (I don't know why he using a gendered term when should have just said "male").
7:37 He again conflates sex and gender by referring to this person as a "boy" despite the fact that this is a gender term
8:14 For a third time, he refers to this person as a "boy", instead of properly using the sex term "male". I can't tell if this is a mistake, or if he believes "boy" is a sex term
He then explains the process of how we can have an XX male and an XY female based on the presence of Sox9. But guess what? This only further proves that sex is binary. An XX male and XY female perfectly fits within the idea that every human is either male or female, and it seems that Duncan agrees, so how exactly does he see this as an argument against the sex binary?
9:04 He then concludes that "sex is super complicated". What he really should have said is "for a small minority of people who develop atypically, sex determination can be very complicated and technical to determine. However, each of these people are still determined to be either male or female". But of course, saying that would be "transphobic"
Then he goes on to his brain example
12:07 He claims that the existence of a male body in a female brain proves transgenderism, but this is simply untrue. Just like someone can have male-typical chromosomes despite still being considered a female (as he explained earlier), someone with a male-typical brain would still be considered female. I don't how this is a knock-down argument.
12:20 Then he says "if you agree that male brains and female brains are basically the same, then gender identity is just a social construct". First of all, you can accept and believe that gender is a social construct while still being critical of transgenderism if you believe that gender is still grounded and dependent on sex. Secondly, proving that something is a social construct does not prove that is it simply a matter of subjective personal identity. Take race for example, it is very much a social construct that humans have devised, and where we draw the boundaries is ultimately arbitrary. And while a Japanese brain is "basically the same" as a Nigerian brain, it's a huge logical to leap to say "therefore, you can be a Japanese person in a Nigerian body". And "trans-Nigerians are Nigerians" and anyone who disagrees is a transphobe.
I don’t think he said there was anything wrong with not finishing high school. You just need to shut up about “basic biology” if you haven’t.
Now that we have acknowledged their existence.
Any chance of a well researched trans sports video?
yeah its coming soon
I have a question, when someone describes themselves as "trans men" or "trans women" are they saying they are now men/women or that they used to be men/women and are now the other? I don't want to end up calling someone the wrong thing if I end up making friends with a trans person in the future.
A trans woman is female. They use female pronouns
A trans man is male. They use male pronouns
hope it helps.
The easy way to think about it is that people call themselves what they want to be, so a trans man wants to be a man, hence they are male and use he/him pronouns
Kickball and just boy stuff he lived in the same neighborhood I'd see him going to and from school, one day I'm heading home and some kids had gathered around him and was picking on him i approach he looks in the eyes you could the terror he looks at me like please help me?, he never did anything to me and I was a scraper i wasn't going to let my class mate get knocked i phuqen sorted it out, he had black eye i got noses a little bloody normal day, but I asked why mate? you ask for trouble mate! He burst into tears and said i don't know i tried my dad hates me and I never wanted to disappoint him but I'm not trying I'm just me, a sissy? Well I don't think I like boys, my best friend's are girls, aright sissy years good with me just makes sure you're I shooting distance from now on.. but he has or had no choice he was what he was i never questioned anyone ones compose and it their needle was pointing Northern or not i got my own needle i like the navigation why would I give phuq,, about who the the phuq ever, their not bugging me who the phuq am I to judge it's none of my personal business if it was now that would mean you took the time to put self in the place of the person you were lowering your brow on so you would have to fantasize your in that moment and make it evil to revisit it without guilt. I mean that's the psychology behind that,
thou does protest too much!
why would you give a shit? That's what I want to know? why you? see thats the real question? Why are you obsessed and why is it your business? you do hnow there is a solid psychology behind what people are doing over obsessing on this very subject right? if I was you I'd run and change my email address.. dumb ass I swear.. a closeted sissy again..
I was in 4th grade use to walk to school there was a kid in my class who was in every way feminine I found it weird but never gave it a second thought, he played tether ball hopscotch he played with the girls, I was playing
@@JohnSmith-xw4yb This was painful to try and read. Even after reading it twice I'm still not sure exactly what your point was. Were you trying to say the guy who originally posted is a dumb ass?
I really, from the bottom of my heart, are thankful for you. For being so compassionate, sharing your knowledge, giving us as well the tools to argue with these people. I really am.
But, still, your video makes me kind of sad, because it shouldn't be neccessary.
Go ahead and argue how Karyotypes are separate sexes and how males are women. We have to repeatedly tell you how female biology works.
@@blacktigerpaw1 tell me you don't know what you're talking about without saying "I have no idea what I'm talking about".
@@casteanpreswyn7528 Duncan: makes an entire video calling a female biologist a bigoted TERF because she says karyotypes aren't separate sexes
Also Duncan: calls himself a feminist
Note that Hilton is an accomplished scientist working in her field, and Duncan has to beg for $200 on Twitch, lol
@@blacktigerpaw1 i mean, Duncan is 100% correct tho. Just because you are a feminist, doesn't mean you must accept anything a woman says as true.
You *really* have no idea what you're talking about and the second hand embarrassment I have for you is getting out of control.
@@blacktigerpaw1 bruh just say you hate trans people and that you think all trans people are groomers. If that’s what you legit believe, say it with your chest. If you keep it real, you at least earn more respect points in my book (however minuscule they may be) more than your fake ass appeal to authority which is fueled by an agenda and has BEEN thoroughly debunked here already. Don’t larp as if you give a fuck about biology when this very video debunked that MuH bIolOgY angle. As well as the history angle… and the definition of woman angle…
A positive comment, oh also thor crossdressed
Love the videos. Keep it up
Imagine being such a soft little feather, that you call someone who disagrees with you on any subject, a transphobe, a homophobe, a racist, a sexist, like come on. Common sense and tradition will reign victorious, and you will seek mental help when common sense is common once more!
Are you people offended by the english language? And we’re the snowflakes? lmfao
imagine insulting and hating minorities, and when they say that you hate them get offended.
rightwingers really are the real snowflakes
Thank you for this video!! Only people who don't watch or understand it are spewing hatred.
Duncan supports trans conversion therapy
the only thing i disagreed with is whether or not gender is purely social. You can use human behaviour biology to argue differences between male and female behaviour in groups. From this perspective, trans is a series of variations in these behaviours characteristics.
What people don't get on the right is that there is the rule of thumb and then there is variation. And any one characteristic that any organism can have can mutate.
Btw sex and gender have to be different because one can vary while the other remains the same
I'm going to start just linking this video when I get in an argument with a transphobe
I understand why you'd want to do that, but I've seen a lot of trans people and allies say that arguing with transphobes is a bad idea because it gives them an opportunity to squeeze in more of their rhetoric and possibly convince more people that they're right. The best thing to do when seeing transphobia online is to block/report the offender (if you're on a site that allows you to do that) without engaging them, as denying them a platform is far more effective than trying to convince them to let go of their hate.
@@zaphhydro You don't seem to understand. I AM trans. And I thrive on calling out how stupid they're being.
Lia Thomas😀
@@queen_nat4586 Go ahead sir, we'll laugh at it and your neovaginal disaster.
@@zaphhydro I just debunk their arguments easily. They usually cherry pick and hover around like, one drug test so they aren't hard to pick apart.
Also, I did not know about the trans Roman Emperor. Awesome
Yeaa Eliogabalus was Emperor during a time of chaos, they were murdered and replaced quite quickly, which was the norm at the time, so everything in that time period is smushed together and lacks details
"Let me explain why transphobes are wrong about gametes..." uses the word 'gamete' them moves directly to chromosomes, then on to genes, and closes out having said nothing about gametes, explains nothing about them, and thinks he made some point.
There are two gametes, an egg and a sperm. There is no third. That's why sex is binary. An infertile or undeveloped sperm or egg is not a third sex.
Sex is all about reproduction. Things like hormonal sex and such are termed that way only because of their relationship to reproduction. That's why testosterone is considered a sex hormone and insulin is not. Because insulin plays no role in reproduction and testosterone does.
See, when you keep it simple (gametes, reproduction, etc.) the conclusion is clear, but not the one you wanted. That's why you need all this obfuscation and confusion.
So people who have streak gonads are male or female?
@@DuncanCantDie People with dysgenetic gonads (or "steak gonads") have gonads which are underdeveloped. These conditions often have painful complications. Sexual development involves more than just the gonads, so obviously these unfortunate people are clearly distinguishable as the sex into which they were developing.
The gonads of children are not fully developed either. Are you often confused by the sex of children? Or do you think they represent a third, or even fourth, sex? (_eyeroll_)
@@jasonlongton1876 I’ve never said there’s a third or fourth sex. That would be a strawman argument.
Streak gonads are gonads that contain cells for both female gamete production and male gamete production. Neither functions but it’s impossible to say which one is the “right one”.
Are you too stupid to understand what I’m saying? It might be the only explanation here.
For something to be a binary there can be *no exceptions*. You don’t need a third option. Someone who is between the two would stop something being a binary.
Almost nothing in biology is a binary, biology is far too messy.
Sex is a bimodal system, not a binary system. That means there are 2 sexes but people can fall in the middle, with a combination of both characteristics to varying degrees.
You’re literally trying to argue genetics with a geneticist, insisting I’m wrong because you’re too stupid to understand the science doesn’t make you right.
@@DuncanCantDie A geneticist?! LOL! Yeah right! Cite your thesis or gto. Ad hominems, appeals to authority, false dichotomies .... Yeah, all the indicia of a charlatan.
Let's get this out of the realm of word play. I'll cite some evidence. All mammals have only TWO biological parents, a male and a female. No exceptions, as you demanded.
Parse that however you want, but that is evidence of the claim that sex is binary.
Calling me stupid does nothing to prove your point.
Nobody is doubting that developmental issues sometimes arise. The fact that they do, and that we can diagnose them, describe them, explain how and why they malfunction the way they do, and even sometimes correct them PROVES that they are developmental disorders. Citing unhealthy people does not refute the concept of heath itself!
Your argument is the equivalent of disputing that humans are bipedal because you saw a few people getting about in scooters at Walmart.
@@jasonlongton1876 That was fantastic! At this point you should consider making your own video so your refutation of this nonsense isn't buried in the comment section...
This guy can't even keep sex and gender straight within his own video. It seems you guys need to work on that before telling other people how to speak.
Your language challenges dont make you correct.
@@Super-BallSharp That’s exactly my argument
i really appreciate the explanations/education of this topic, but as a critisism, i would say there's a lot of jabs and insults thrown in that feel kinda eh. like all the times u mention people dropping out of highschool, or how people disagreeing are always just miserable awful people.
that may be the case for many, but many people simply genuinely don't understand this stuff, and get very angry reactions to not understanding. It's all a radically different understanding of things than they'v spent their whole lives with, so take that into account and treat them with respect too.
to anyone reading: everyone's still human and deserves a certain amount of decency. you'll want it coming your way when you're on the wrong side of a debate/argument, so pls give it to others
Nah, bigots don't deserve decency.
Paradox of tolerance, look it up.
@@DuncanCantDieWell I'd argue you making this video was a decency towards them in itself, because it exists to educate them no?
What a lot of contradictory arguments this person spouts,
Lmao. Sure.
@@DuncanCantDie I love how you started with a lecture on words and women & how you understand them but we don’t… and then you proceeded to call us transphobes 😂😂😂😂 why would we be scared of trans people (and don’t say we are scared of them because we don’t understand them)
@@clashshorts9073 what is the primary issue people like you have with trans people?
“They’re indoctrinating our children”
“They’re a danger to women in bathrooms”
“They make me uncomfortable”
Sounds like fear to me.
@@DuncanCantDie Maybe if you were a really man (which I’m not btw) you’d understand that it’s a man’s duty to protect women and in the case of men in women’s sports and men in womens bathrooms. I think if you weren’t a condescending asshole who isn’t so focused on saying a bunch of Gobldygook transgender propaganda speaking points you realize that men don’t belong in womens bathroom for womens safety. Just my opinion 😁
@@DuncanCantDie The one I hate the most is when people say 'they identify as Trans to prey on their victims'
So, they're not Trans then. They are Cis people. That only proves to show Cis people being complete shit and is not a reflection of the trans population.
So I have a question after listening to the video and This isn't a topic I normally think about but I have no issue with trans people except maybe on one topic and that is male athletes sex changing into females and then participating in women's sports. So my question to you all is does this make me a transphobe?
Studies show that after 2 years of estrogen almost all advantages left from a male puberty no longer exist. This is the science. You can be upset about it but it’s not a scientific standpoint. I’m assuming this upset is over Lia and her recent win?
Btw if someone transitioned without ever experiencing a male puberty (hormone blockers to prevent puberty and then HRT to experience a female puberty) there is *no difference at all* from someone who experienced a regular female puberty, should those people be allowed to compete in womens sports?
I’m planning a whole separate video on the trans women in sports question because it’s a lot more complex. Hopefully you’ll watch it with an open mind.
@@DuncanCantDie actually I don't know the story about Lia and her recent win. Is this the swimmer that I have been seeing on social media as of late? But I think this opinion had stemmed from way back when a male had transitioned into a female and was competing in mixed martial arts in The female division
I love science time and this time word time with Duncan
Tempted to show this to my problematic parents. Thank you.
Don't do this! If they have half a brain and some knowledge, you can easily debunk this.
@@manunderyourbed debunk it then