When insurance companies can force entire prestigious events to disappear, it's indicative of how ridiculous of a direction our country is heading in. It's personal to me, as I live in the town that this river gave its name to. It's like being told you can no longer have family reunions with more than 8 people.
It's not the racers themselves, but the spectators lining the river banks down to the river , on rocks and such that surely scare any insurance company or event organizer. Crowd control would definitely need to be done. I can see them erecting temporary fencing along the road, but then the shut down of the traffic becomes another hassle.
You gonna pay the insurance fees? You gonna pay the fees to the police and traffic authorities for road closures, extra policing? Your talking thousands of dollars for just one event like this.
Its a problem not unique to WW kayaking but to any organised sport comp in the US and also the reason many landowners shut down access to a river or rock face (for climbers) on their land as they may be liable if something goes wrong. In the hyper-legal US of today unless every possible risk is covered by insurance then you would be insane to hold a comp.
spot on. overly litigious culture. people often demonize those shutting off access, but 99% of those people aren't just grumpy, they are afraid of getting sued and having everything taken from them.
@@CyBORG1208 Yup, another great example being the demise of the Tour of California over a decade ago. It was the only top tier World Tour level road cycling stage race held in the US and was growing in popularity year on year and the teams from the European WT level peloton all used to come. It ended because the costs of holding a 7 stage road race on public roads spiralled out of control.
@@epincion I did not know that was why it ended. However, I am very familiar with it. I have been a mountain bike racer and rider since I was 9, grew up watching events like that, the giro and TDF on OLN. I always wonder how the insurance is with the explosion of bike specific gravity parks like Kanuga, Windrock, etc. Makes sense that the ski areas can handle the costs and have the USFS helping them out, but I cross my fingers that litigiousness doesn't kill these new smaller ventures
@@CyBORG1208 The other issue wth road races is that the US public are not supportive of public road closures and also the costs to pay for policing the closure.
Rob Lesser pulled my butt out of the North Fork in 1989. We were both much younger men then.
Honestly it looks fun to watch
When insurance companies can force entire prestigious events to disappear, it's indicative of how ridiculous of a direction our country is heading in. It's personal to me, as I live in the town that this river gave its name to. It's like being told you can no longer have family reunions with more than 8 people.
Hahaha yea. It is kinda like that isn’t it?!
That would be a shame 😢if it doesn’t return.
C’mon ACA 😢 so sad to see the demise of these Creek races
It's not the racers themselves, but the spectators lining the river banks down to the river , on rocks and such that surely scare any insurance company or event organizer. Crowd control would definitely need to be done. I can see them erecting temporary fencing along the road, but then the shut down of the traffic becomes another hassle.
RIP Jim Grossman!
Dissolve our relationship the ACA if they refuse to support kayaking events. We need support and results, not excuses.
You gonna pay the insurance fees? You gonna pay the fees to the police and traffic authorities for road closures, extra policing? Your talking thousands of dollars for just one event like this.
Its a problem not unique to WW kayaking but to any organised sport comp in the US and also the reason many landowners shut down access to a river or rock face (for climbers) on their land as they may be liable if something goes wrong. In the hyper-legal US of today unless every possible risk is covered by insurance then you would be insane to hold a comp.
spot on. overly litigious culture. people often demonize those shutting off access, but 99% of those people aren't just grumpy, they are afraid of getting sued and having everything taken from them.
@@CyBORG1208 Yup, another great example being the demise of the Tour of California over a decade ago. It was the only top tier World Tour level road cycling stage race held in the US and was growing in popularity year on year and the teams from the European WT level peloton all used to come. It ended because the costs of holding a 7 stage road race on public roads spiralled out of control.
@@epincion I did not know that was why it ended. However, I am very familiar with it. I have been a mountain bike racer and rider since I was 9, grew up watching events like that, the giro and TDF on OLN.
I always wonder how the insurance is with the explosion of bike specific gravity parks like Kanuga, Windrock, etc. Makes sense that the ski areas can handle the costs and have the USFS helping them out, but I cross my fingers that litigiousness doesn't kill these new smaller ventures
@@CyBORG1208 The other issue wth road races is that the US public are not supportive of public road closures and also the costs to pay for policing the closure.
I thought the Forest Service cancelled it because of the oil slick the kayakers left on the river!
Insurance companies suck ... seriously how dumb. They should crowd fund this somehow.
just make everyone sign their life on the dotted line
It's such a shame that everything in this world comes down to money.
Insurance issues.
The kayak, canoe, paddling community is big in the NW. Wont these insurance companies understand that?
Distance yourself from the ACA, crowd fund and put on the show. Time for the middle finger for these insurance companies.
This is sad news
Does the water have covid?
If it isn't one fucking thing it's another. Everyone legally has military grade weapons but watch out for that evil river.