@@THEWOKERIGHT it’s not. Yes they are lying I never said that, but I known someone with literally the best jaw I ever seen my cousin and him wisdom tooth was slanted to the side a bit, not forward. I’m not saying it’s not bc of the modern world I’m saying it doesn’t mean you have bad forward growth
@Leoniss wisdom teeth get pulled because our skulls are too small for them to grow normally. If they dont grow normally they can cause problems like shifting teeth.
It's not. When they pull teeth and retract, it makes your airway smaller and gives less space in your mouth for your tongue. This can lead to obstructive sleep apnea because your tongue has no place to go and relaxes into your throat as you sleep.
Bentist supports mewing but not a radical tho. So he still supports teeth extraction. Watch dr mike mew he is better than bentist in terms of actually understanding how the face and teeth works.
yeah but modern orthdontics still retracts the teeth inwards just not as much but it can still make an impact. It basically pushes the teeth in the wisdom teeth's space so they end up impacted. I notice kids that dont have orthodontics tend to have less impaction of wisdom teeth than kids who had braces.
Same here 24 teeth , premolars extracted as a teen. Developed sleep apnea and in constant pain. Now have to get jaw surgery at age 35 to fix all my issues...
Best thing to do if you have crooked teeth is Maxilar expansion só you have the required space together with orthodontics, i had this done at 38 years old without surgery, i just had holes drilled in the suture and used a 6 mini implant MSC and now you can even get 8 screw MSCs so anyone says that its not possible in adults is wrong
@@user-uf3ss9tc1f most people have the maxilla to small, and can just move the teeth out on the mandíbular with orthodonticsc but I have seen sergeons expand the mandíbula by making a cut in between the lower front teeth then but a expander in or metal plates in, while simultaneously expanding tha maxilar, basically with modern technology and surgery there is no excuse for not have a adequate size maxilar and mandíbular
Don’t let them pull your teeth, but I went through braces for 2 years and my entire face is better. I’m kinda questioning this guy because it seems ludicrous to say kids with crooked teeth shouldn’t get braces, well maybe they could get something “like” Invisalign. I had an overbite which was corrected through braces. So personally I believe that braces were wonderful, even if the pain was there and sometimes made me want to hurt everything around me. So I’ll stick to what happened to me. But if you’re a fan of him then listen to him.
He’s talking about extraction-retraction techniques. Not all orthodontic treatment will include these methods, and it sounds like yours may have done a wonderful job. I sadly had both extraction and retraction during mine, and I currently suffer from TMJD, an open bite, and malocclusion. I originally had a perfect bite with no crooked teeth-just needed to close gaps. I had to go see a specialist who performs reverse orthodontics to find that my tongue no longer fits into my shrunken palate, causing me a slough of symptoms. I’m due for a tongue release surgery soon to fit my tongue into my new palate. Orthodontics treatment is not a one-size fits all, and varying orthodontists can have different treatment plans for the same individual.
It’s not that simple. You can’t learn anything in A 30 second video that your counterparts spend 20 years learning. The arrogance of people, but with that said in some cases you are 💯
For the people hair questioning the validity of braces I would like to say that teeth extractions are not required in every single case. Orthodontics is vastly different and depends on the case itself. But having crooked teeth you can't always go for jaw expansion because that would make the lower jaw smaller in comparison to the upper jaw. Remember that there is no way to expand the lower jaw. It can be brought forward with surgery but it won't change it's size. So keeping that in mind upper jaw expansion is good for those ppl whose lower jaw is normal and upper jaw is smaller. Crooked teeth aren't necessarily because of a small jaw. There are many reasons to it. So don't blindly believe what ppl say.
a truly narrow lower jaw at the level of the BONE not the teeth is very rare according to Dr Richard Ting, most upper jaws are truly narrow (at the level of the bone)
@@JawHacks yes but If a person with a normal lower jaw and a relatively normal upper jaw with just crooked teeth goes for expansion it causes crossbite. Not every case is gonna get better from extraction and just like that not every case requires maxillary expansion. It all depends on the case. There is no black and white when it comes to aesthetics as it is case dependant. There are some rules but then again those rules are subject to change because of the individual person's case. Saying that a person with crooked teeth should go for expansion rather than extractions is something far fetched to say. Palatal expansion is good for ppl with small maxillas. Not for ppl with a normal maxilla but crooked teeth
@@NFKhan-eu3ff What he means is that you can fix the resulting "narrow" lower jaw by expanding its dento alveolar bone until it fits the expanded upper jaw. Invisalign, ALF, damon, etc...
@@javierduenasjimenez7930 even with that there are a lot of aesthetic concerns plus the lower jaw does not expand the same as the upper jaw. It can still result in a crossbite.
most orthodontists nowadays dont pull unless the need to, they opt for finely shaving off a bit of some teeth to create little bits of space. always get multiple opinions, nowadays most offices will do complimentary consults. orthodontics IS worth it (i waited until i was in my 20s and my teeth are suffering greatly because the damage and overbite caused)
Come to india. They’ll pull out your teeth even when its not needed because they have it fixed in their mind that extraction are absolute necessity for braces
I had 4 wisdom teeth but they grew in a way that would have made them push against my other molars. Considering this it’s safe to say that it was good to pull them.
And that is what I call BS. My orthodontist wanted to do the same to me 15 years ago with the same claim that they will push against the others and mess everything up! Now 15 years later, I still have them and nothing like that happened. It’s just a cash grab! Only pull them (or one) when they really make problems!
I had 8 teeth extracted. But maybe I'm lucky because I still have 28 teeth. My wisdom teeth are the ones they're after. I want to keep them. They have aesthetic potential. Mewing hasn't worked for me but I'm going to try a different approach. I'm going to address my entire body posture, balance of fascia through MFR. That should transfer through my spine, neck, and finally face and teeth.
@Kelvin Gevers myofascial release. Fascia is the thing you feel when your "muscles are sore." It's the thing that has 6-10x more nerves than your muscles. It's the thing that gives your movements that elestic quality yo throw, kick, sprint, jump. It's the thing that literally holds you all together so that you're not a clump of bones, muscles, organs, blood vessles all laying on the floor. It's the thing that tucks you in bed at night. It you don't take care of it, you'll feel achy, stiff, have a hard time with posture, get injured easier, all kinds of issues can happen. Your neck pain may actually start from your hips. You "release" fascia so that it can obsorbe water, glide smoothly, be more viscous and elastic and then you can eventually chance the structure of your body. Fascia is truly fascinating. Learn more at Functional Patterns. Don't address one body part. Address the system as a whole. Move the way we evolved to move. "Reminding you to train intentionally and not habitually" - Naudi Aguilar.- Does that answer your question? From: ChatbotgptPranav3
@@pranavgainz4180 My brother who is a trainer plans to do it and apply it to its clients. He has already done many others before and he is currently doing the osteopathy degree.
How to wisdom teeth have aesthetic potential? Like make your face bigger or you dont know? Obviously removing them from the jaw is going to make it less robust
@@johnnyespalahento2431 I associate more teeth with forward facial growth. Have you seen models with cheek bones more forward from a side profile? And the lower jaw matching. That's very attractive to me.
Same here... I got my braces @ 17 and they extracted 4 teeths. 2 years with braces and I lost my confidence from there . after taking out braces everyone said it was better before braces
@@hyundisy after taking off braces my jaw became long and cheeks looks sunken. Braces changed my jawline structure. I think it's happened because of teeth extraction.
I've had all my wisdom teeth out a few montha ago, not only because it was making my teeth crooked but it was also because it was causing me pain. The wisdom teeth grew under the flesh so it was impacting onto my molars but also the nerves. Everyone has their reasons, should believe that with the help of advice.
True, I got my bottom two extracted cause I needed to, but kinda wish I didn’t get my top extracted. I mistakenly thought they were all impacted so I removed once of my bottom, it healed and then top and bottom from the other side but forgot about my upper top one, then I noticed it grew out normally and got in my mouth. Turn out that only the bottom two were impacted, not the top. Had I not removed the other one (getting the top on bottom on the same side to “rush” the process) I would’ve kept both my upper cause they were actually not impacted but I ended up removing the 4th one as to not cause asymmetry. After examining my face though I know that it doesn’t have an affect on my facial structure but it sometimes upsets me cause it was 2 unnecessary extractions. My bottom ones did bother me though so those needed to go lol! I still need to get some ortho done cause I never did (I’m in my early 20s) but I’m kind of glad I never did as a kid cause I feel like with the issues I have, retractive ortho is pretty common and it would’ve definitely messed up my facial structure. Like, knock on wood, my face is pretty okay and most people don’t actually know/can’t tell I have some minor jaw and teeth alignment issues
as someone who had/has crooked teeth, they dont do that anymore, and often these teeth are causing pain, and, in my cade, cavities, because you can't clean there probably
I think my ortho is the only doctor that refused to remove all my wisdom teeth because they were not in a bad position. I have 6 visible molars in my lower jaw 😂
I got wisdom teeth surgery and after a few months my cheeks sunk in and I got that droopy eyes appearance and I have been having breathing difficulties bc of it. I'll be getting Orthotropics soon trying to solve all this mess 😭
This makes me think about doctor appointments when I was a kid I think my mom fucked me up and as I get older I’m starting to feel that 🤷🏾♂️idk I could be wrong tho
I’ve had a very narrow palette and bad breathing, braces have made my face more full, wider palette/ jaw, now I breath better then ever, the key is to never get teeth extracted.
@@barackputin no I’ve always had a narrow palette but when I got regular traditional braces it’s made it wider and I can fit more of my tongue. Mewing has helped a lot aswell
@@Vats77 aesthetic wise, I have a wider jaw and even cheek bones popped out brought my face more forward making my skin tighter on my face, since it was recessed before because of mouth breathing, function wise I’m breathing a lot better through my nose and a stronger bite when I’m chewing.
I don’t claim to be an expert but everyone I know who’s had braces has had them work perfectly fine. Seems like some people would rather fabricate conspiracies than accept that shit happens sometimes.
My husband has all his teeth. They are a little crooked, but he has the loveliest smile and a great square jaw. His parents were poor so he never saw a dentist. He went for the first time at 30. No cavities, no plaque. Our dentist was like, "well just come back when you feel like it. Like in three years or something. I'm not really worried."
For everybody using the “they don’t do that anymore” critique, have you stopped to think what are they doing today that they won’t be doing anymore in the future? That’s the point of his argument.
They are starting to venture more into Jaw Surgery territory. Which it's more invasive than retract and extract. But you keep your teeth and improve the structure.
Dental student here if the doctor removes the premolars it is just enough to fix the crooked ones or if they want a small space they will use a small saw look it up
Registered Dental Assistant here, Some People get pre-molars or wisdom teeth removed so orthodontic treatment can begin. If you have no space for your teeth to shift you'll need your teeth pulled. There are malpractice doctors who take advantage of patients for money but that's not the case for most people. I have braces and I don't need to get my wisdom teeth removed because my teeth weren't that bad to begin with.
Removing healthy teeth just so someone can have a nice business model of making a superficial appearance of straight, healthy teeth is barbaric. Where are the long term longitudinal studies proving safety and patient satisfaction? If orthodontics was held to the same standards as actual medicine it would have been shot down long ago.
@@flyondonnie9578 lmfao as if malpractice in regular medicine doesn’t happen but this isn’t common in orthodontics not even 20 years ago nobody i knew as a kid ever had to get teeth pulled for their braces this was common practice in the 80s, now it’s only really needed if the patient is an adult whose jaw is no longer growing and it’s done after they get their braces off if they end up with flared teeth if there aren’t other possible treatment options and they don’t want to get jaw surgery
Hello! I recently read a post that mentioned that after a tooth extraction, the jaw shrinks a little and I had a question. If wisdom teeth are removed, will it negatively affect the appearance?
I had 2 teeth pulled when I was 10 or so than all 4 wisdom teeth because they were impacted. No braces an every dentist said it was a good choice an I have no issues. This isn’t a one shoe fits all thing.
When you open your mouth suddenly it does a pop sound, like a vacuum that for the whole tongue. If it touches only the tip of the tongue then its a tisksound
I’m questioning what line of reasoning is correct since I’ve heard that overcrowding occurs due to people having small jaws that cannot accommodate the teeth that they have. While bone underneath may resorb due to lack of teeth, it’s not like taking out teeth that don’t fit would cause such resorption, no?
Thats crazy because at like 17 i was in the post operation block, ready to get my 4 wisdom teeth removed, « because i didnt have enough room in my mouth and they could become impacted » When the nurse came, i had the most profound intuition, like something that would happen a few times in a lifetime at best, and I knew i had to leave this place asap and not get it extracted. I just listened to this profound, pure innate knowing and just left. My mother was furious about it. Later on i discovered mike mew, started expanding with mewing, proper swallowing, some palatal expander ( i couldnt get mse unfortunately, nobody does it around where i live), and guess what all of my wisdom teeth grew perfectly straight and are now totally out Always listen to your intuition, when it happens to you and you think there is something wrong, chances most of the times there is something wrong. Thank god i still have all my 32 beautiful teeth! Spread knowledge to young parents you might know, educate them so that they can make the best decisions for their childrens!
the entire purpose of this channel is to inform people to not BLINDLY follow conventional “wisdom” when it comes to your health, “experts” can easily harm your health as well as they can help it. thanks for sharing your story!
I have an overbite and I am having braces. I have also my wisdom teeth and my orthodontist did not even say anything about pulling out my teeth. He just said that my teeth bill get back and reduce my 9mm overbite and that is it. No teeth extraction.
This can’t be any truer I never needed braces I was born with perfect teeth and when they dentist pulled a back tooth I needed out my teeth shifted and my front one moved my teeth are still straight but no where how they were he’s so right
Man I got braces at 16, My teeth looks nice when I smile but... I should have gotten a "mouth expander " with the while having the braces. Since, at currently 19, I realise that dispite my teeth are aline and put together the tongue space I have it's to narrow, my teeth structure it's too narrow. So I'll get a mouth expander, so that I can fully expand my tongue and Mew properly, It's not a big deal, I have pretty decent jawline, but I want to make sure of not regretting nothing on the future.
OrthoTropics- instead of traditional orthodontics Has helped my daughter and no teeth pulled- she has had a mouth device for 3 years now and her teeth have straightened out as well as airway expanded. Helps to prevent sleep apnea etc look up before and afters
I have 2 extra teeth i my front of the upper jaw that is causing a severe crocked teeths..... I am age 15 btw. What's your opinion jawhacks should i get them extracted???? I will appreciate if you answer.
Hello. I had 4 wisdom teeth, but last summer I removed one tooth in the lower jaw. They are almost fully grown. Should I remove the second wisdom tooth in the lower jaw?
Did you notice any facial asymmetry (i.e. the extracted side possibly more shrunken or hollow than the other) and have your top wisdoms fully erupted yet? Sometimes after pulling a tooth in the mandible, if the upper has no lower tooth contacting it anymore, it can eventually supraerupt. You should probably talk to more dental professionals regarding the matter, and make sure to include a mix of both who advocate to keep and advocate to pull. I had my two bottoms removed & definitely would have preferred to see someone who advocated to keep them instead of my old dentist.
What about those with underbites? My sister has a mild underbite and her orthodontists recommend her braces but since her face/mouth was still in the process of growing, she had to wait it out. she’s been waiting for her orthodontists to give her the go for getting her braces but when she was around 16-17 they told her apparently it’s now too late…
u r partially correct the extraction might worsen the face profile ,that's why they do extraction only if the face profile is getting some improvement with tooth extraction
He’s right about it being unnecessary, new orthodontists don’t pull out teeth to straighten them. Most cases, even bad ones can be taken care of with expanders, Invisalign or braces. Older orthodontists are used to pulling out teeth for an easy fix.
My dentist won't remove a tooth unless it is falling out on its own. Is it broken but otherwise sitting fine? We'll fix it. He had to remove my father's teeth though, because the dentist before him decided to treat periodontitis... Which my father did not have 🙃 he just pulled 13 absolutely healthy teeth with his bare fingers, because they were so loose....
Luckily for me my orthodontist never pulled any teeth when I got braces, but my fucking orthodontist isn’t listening to me when I expressed concern about the occlusal cant I have. He says the bite plane looks fine but the cant is very noticeable in pictures and in the before picture the orthodontist took and probably in the x-rays too
You can get that thing that stretches out your jaw and allows more bone to grown then if teeth are fucked after that treatment braces to straighten them out doesn't seem like an issue.
I got my 1 molar pulled that was stuck and won’t go up and in my case I’m okay since that molar was useless in the first place and I couldn’t even bite with it. So extraction can be good. The one your talking about is the one where they extract and bring the teeth together and I think that’s the bad one.
Yes, what he says is true! Some people DO need to get wisdom teeth removed and go down to 28 teeth but always be sure to do your own research and question them, question all doctors for anything in general cause it’s not safe to put blind faith in others, even if they’re considered experts, second and third opinions are always possible!
i have overbite and i got 2 upper premolars removed i got braces, they are trying to pull my front teeth back but i stopped going to dentist for a while because i wanted to get second or third opinions i am still 18 and am waiting molat teeth, my mandibular is small and my maxillary and palette is just a couple milimeters smaller rhan it has to be, i need urgent advice
i had 4 premolars extracted + 4 wisdoms teeth in preparation of a second class surgery ,my face is much worse and i look bad now,i was said that i needed to do extractions because i have both the palate and the lower arch small,i also talked with some docs and they said i will improve after the surgery....can anyone suggest to me what to do ?should i get implants after surgery?
will my jaws recess if I only got my wisdom teeth removed? i can see from the animations presented in the video that it’s only the premolars that are extracted. i wonder if the same effect will happen if only my wisdom teeth was removed
depends on your case, if wisdoms are impacted they need to be removed (or you risk serious complications). if not, leave them be. ideally you keep all your teeth but modern diets/habits have ruined jaw size(s)
@@JawHacks dentist recommended me to get my wisdom teeth pulled due to an underbite,(then braces instead of mse) they stay away from getting k9 removed. Thoughts?
@@JawHacks I see, so even if my wisdom teeth were impacted and it were removed, My jaws will still recess? But the complications of impacted wisdom teeth is much worse than the complications of a recessed face that results in extracting my impacted wisdom teeth? so sorry if I'm being vague but I hope you understand
As a dentist with basic knowledge of orthodontics I would not recommend you to get maxillary expansion if what you claim that your upper teeth overlap your lower teeth because it will only make the issue more severe. Upper jaw expansion is done in cases where the lower jaw is normal and the upper jaw is small. In cases where the lower jaw is smaller maxillary expansion will only make it look further smaller
@@NFKhan-eu3ff okay. I don't really think I have a problem with my teeth at all anymore, there is a tiny bit of overlap but not much. Dentints have always said I had good teeth and never had problems. Watching these vids just makes me overthink.
@@NFKhan-eu3ff my lower jaw is normal but my upper teeth slightly overlap, but from a visual standpoint I feel like I need to bring the upper jaw more forward even though I don’t have an underbite
@@sady1139 our facial profile but only depends on how our jaws and teeth are positioned but also depend on our other facial features as well. It can be that your teeth compensated for the upper jaw. But again I think you should see a dentist. No harm in expressing concern for it.
I have four wisdom teeth coming out 3 are coming out fine while one is coming at a bad angle and probably have to be removed. But do you think I should remove the other three if they are coming out right?
I have the same problem, one of my bottom wisdom teeth is perfectly straight and in 90% out and the other is a bit more fucked up (I don't have any upper wisdom teeth idk why). I have all of my teeth even though I had braces and my facial structure after braces got a lot better and I don't want to ruin it
I don’t have my top wisdom teeth but my bottom are coming in at a poor angle, doc is saying I gotta get them removed. Idk what do do because I don’t the money for MSE yet, I’m stuck, any tips?
if they're impacted, you may have to get them removed. there are methods to keep them but very complicated and almost no ortho/surgeon in the world is willing to use it. google "TAD molar uprighting"
I appreciate this. Thank you for explaining the truth about facial health to these health ignorant Simps. I still have and intend to keep my wisdom teeth.👍
But i mean it depends on person to person, if you have an underbite, you will have to remove two teeth from the bottom jaw just so the bottom jaw goes behind and the upper jaw overlaps the bottom... And it makes absolute sense to me if you wanna get braces done.
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Please don’t take health advice from a kid on RUclips.
Wasnt going to
But it’s true tho
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He’s right the orthodontist should use expanders
including yourself
Why do people make everything a conspiracy
It’s not
@Leoniss it literally is. The title I'd literally tilted towards the idea that the medical industry as a whole is lying to you.
@@THEWOKERIGHT it’s not. Yes they are lying I never said that, but I known someone with literally the best jaw I ever seen my cousin and him wisdom tooth was slanted to the side a bit, not forward. I’m not saying it’s not bc of the modern world I’m saying it doesn’t mean you have bad forward growth
@Leoniss wisdom teeth get pulled because our skulls are too small for them to grow normally. If they dont grow normally they can cause problems like shifting teeth.
It's not. When they pull teeth and retract, it makes your airway smaller and gives less space in your mouth for your tongue. This can lead to obstructive sleep apnea because your tongue has no place to go and relaxes into your throat as you sleep.
This was around the 80s
They don't pull much teeth anymore.
Source: I'm a RDH in a dental office
Went for an appointment they said we need to pull 4 teeth I said nope and didn’t proceed
@@dexuwastaken7079 Yea . I would get at least 3 consults / second opinions with an orthodontist.
I had to get 4 teeth pulled like 5 yrs ago for my braces and i dont think my face got changed much?
There is sadly forums of us online still suffering from these techniques 😢
@@emilynguyen5260 it still happens and it's sad.
I thought that orthodontist that randomly pops up and goes "PHEEEEHH" will come up lol.
I wish he did
Bentist really should cover this though. That’s a very deep conversation to be had. (Bentist is the guy who does the “PHEEEHH,” lol.)
Bentist supports mewing but not a radical tho. So he still supports teeth extraction.
Watch dr mike mew he is better than bentist in terms of actually understanding how the face and teeth works.
As a qualified dentist , this is correct what he is saying . Extractions should be avoided at all cost . Modern orthodontic methods avoids extraction
yeah but modern orthdontics still retracts the teeth inwards just not as much but it can still make an impact. It basically pushes the teeth in the wisdom teeth's space so they end up impacted. I notice kids that dont have orthodontics tend to have less impaction of wisdom teeth than kids who had braces.
Same here 24 teeth , premolars extracted as a teen. Developed sleep apnea and in constant pain. Now have to get jaw surgery at age 35 to fix all my issues...
sorry to hear, the goal of jawhacks is to ensure that less people go through what we’ve been through. this industry needs to change
@@JawHacks I'm with you! Will follow your channel I randomly found it while looking for jaw surgery info. Thanks ❤️❤️
Yeah guys, let that infected wisdom tooth sit at the back of your mouth forever. Big tooth is always watching
Big tooth lmaooo😭
bro if u actually have eyes it shows they take teeth out in the middle and then pull the other teeth in to close the gap
@@jameswitcher5691he’s talking about how his third molars were pulled. Which should always be done.
@@micharel937 only if they are impacted
No one is talking about infected wisdom teeth here. Use your brain.
Best thing to do if you have crooked teeth is Maxilar expansion só you have the required space together with orthodontics, i had this done at 38 years old without surgery, i just had holes drilled in the suture and used a 6 mini implant MSC and now you can even get 8 screw MSCs so anyone says that its not possible in adults is wrong
Doesn't that make a gap between the front teeth?
@@tarekkhelalfa2066 yes it’s a small gap that it easy to close with orthodontics or veneers
@@gregducati999 What about the mandibular arch ?
@@user-uf3ss9tc1f most people have the maxilla to small, and can just move the teeth out on the mandíbular with orthodonticsc but I have seen sergeons expand the mandíbula by making a cut in between the lower front teeth then but a expander in or metal plates in, while simultaneously expanding tha maxilar, basically with modern technology and surgery there is no excuse for not have a adequate size maxilar and mandíbular
Can you please post a video about your experience? I think it would help a LOT of people and there is not much normal people experience online
4 years of dental school education or a 30 second video on RUclips…you decide
Neither. I’ll take the facts and the truth.
everything in this video was factual
Go pull out all ur wisdom teeth 🤣
@@jameswitcher5691no it wasn’t lol
the guy in the video i believe was once a dental student. he also graduated cum laude from a top university
This is so true!!! Unfortunately, people don’t want to recognise that.😢
Nothing on this video was true
@@micharel937everything on this video is true
Don’t let them pull your teeth, but I went through braces for 2 years and my entire face is better. I’m kinda questioning this guy because it seems ludicrous to say kids with crooked teeth shouldn’t get braces, well maybe they could get something “like” Invisalign. I had an overbite which was corrected through braces. So personally I believe that braces were wonderful, even if the pain was there and sometimes made me want to hurt everything around me. So I’ll stick to what happened to me. But if you’re a fan of him then listen to him.
intro was clickbait, obviously everyone’s case is different. the main message was DONT let them blindly pull out your teeth to “straighten” the smile
He’s talking about extraction-retraction techniques. Not all orthodontic treatment will include these methods, and it sounds like yours may have done a wonderful job. I sadly had both extraction and retraction during mine, and I currently suffer from TMJD, an open bite, and malocclusion. I originally had a perfect bite with no crooked teeth-just needed to close gaps. I had to go see a specialist who performs reverse orthodontics to find that my tongue no longer fits into my shrunken palate, causing me a slough of symptoms. I’m due for a tongue release surgery soon to fit my tongue into my new palate. Orthodontics treatment is not a one-size fits all, and varying orthodontists can have different treatment plans for the same individual.
He’s not wrong
he wrong -_-
It’s not that simple. You can’t learn anything in A 30 second video that your counterparts spend 20 years learning. The arrogance of people, but with that said in some cases you are 💯
I'm really fighting with people in youtube comments about stupid shit like this.
Look up othrotropics
@@THEWOKERIGHT fr bro, this person speaking nonsense
i got 2 of my bottom teeth removed for braces is it gonna make me look like the people in the pictures pls hellpppppp im so scaredd dksksnkalq
@@monki1666 it's over
For the people hair questioning the validity of braces I would like to say that teeth extractions are not required in every single case. Orthodontics is vastly different and depends on the case itself. But having crooked teeth you can't always go for jaw expansion because that would make the lower jaw smaller in comparison to the upper jaw. Remember that there is no way to expand the lower jaw. It can be brought forward with surgery but it won't change it's size. So keeping that in mind upper jaw expansion is good for those ppl whose lower jaw is normal and upper jaw is smaller. Crooked teeth aren't necessarily because of a small jaw. There are many reasons to it. So don't blindly believe what ppl say.
a truly narrow lower jaw at the level of the BONE not the teeth is very rare according to Dr Richard Ting, most upper jaws are truly narrow (at the level of the bone)
@@JawHacks yes but If a person with a normal lower jaw and a relatively normal upper jaw with just crooked teeth goes for expansion it causes crossbite. Not every case is gonna get better from extraction and just like that not every case requires maxillary expansion. It all depends on the case. There is no black and white when it comes to aesthetics as it is case dependant. There are some rules but then again those rules are subject to change because of the individual person's case. Saying that a person with crooked teeth should go for expansion rather than extractions is something far fetched to say. Palatal expansion is good for ppl with small maxillas. Not for ppl with a normal maxilla but crooked teeth
@@NFKhan-eu3ff What he means is that you can fix the resulting "narrow" lower jaw by expanding its dento alveolar bone until it fits the expanded upper jaw. Invisalign, ALF, damon, etc...
@@javierduenasjimenez7930 even with that there are a lot of aesthetic concerns plus the lower jaw does not expand the same as the upper jaw. It can still result in a crossbite.
@@NFKhan-eu3ff You can match both arches with enough time. What are the esthetical concerns you are reffering to?
most orthodontists nowadays dont pull unless the need to, they opt for finely shaving off a bit of some teeth to create little bits of space. always get multiple opinions, nowadays most offices will do complimentary consults. orthodontics IS worth it (i waited until i was in my 20s and my teeth are suffering greatly because the damage and overbite caused)
They don’t do that anymore for the most part. Typically older dentists use this method.
His correct though pulling out teeth isn’t that good
@@rizzwan-42069it’s also not that bad.
Come to india. They’ll pull out your teeth even when its not needed because they have it fixed in their mind that extraction are absolute necessity for braces
@@EccentricHumanso called orthodontists who are just ignorant people.
I had 4 wisdom teeth but they grew in a way that would have made them push against my other molars. Considering this it’s safe to say that it was good to pull them.
ask yourself why did they grow out that way in the first place
And that is what I call BS. My orthodontist wanted to do the same to me 15 years ago with the same claim that they will push against the others and mess everything up! Now 15 years later, I still have them and nothing like that happened. It’s just a cash grab!
Only pull them (or one) when they really make problems!
@@tomas_altamirano because of years of evolution of the mouth/airway getting smaller. tf no one can help wisdom teeth obstructions lmao
@@tomas_altamiranoagain with the conspiracies smh
I had 8 teeth extracted. But maybe I'm lucky because I still have 28 teeth. My wisdom teeth are the ones they're after. I want to keep them. They have aesthetic potential. Mewing hasn't worked for me but I'm going to try a different approach. I'm going to address my entire body posture, balance of fascia through MFR. That should transfer through my spine, neck, and finally face and teeth.
Can you explain what MFR is and how it works please. Thanks in advance
@Kelvin Gevers myofascial release. Fascia is the thing you feel when your "muscles are sore." It's the thing that has 6-10x more nerves than your muscles. It's the thing that gives your movements that elestic quality yo throw, kick, sprint, jump. It's the thing that literally holds you all together so that you're not a clump of bones, muscles, organs, blood vessles all laying on the floor. It's the thing that tucks you in bed at night. It you don't take care of it, you'll feel achy, stiff, have a hard time with posture, get injured easier, all kinds of issues can happen. Your neck pain may actually start from your hips. You "release" fascia so that it can obsorbe water, glide smoothly, be more viscous and elastic and then you can eventually chance the structure of your body. Fascia is truly fascinating. Learn more at Functional Patterns. Don't address one body part. Address the system as a whole. Move the way we evolved to move. "Reminding you to train intentionally and not habitually" - Naudi Aguilar.-
Does that answer your question?
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@@pranavgainz4180 My brother who is a trainer plans to do it and apply it to its clients. He has already done many others before and he is currently doing the osteopathy degree.
How to wisdom teeth have aesthetic potential? Like make your face bigger or you dont know? Obviously removing them from the jaw is going to make it less robust
@@johnnyespalahento2431 I associate more teeth with forward facial growth. Have you seen models with cheek bones more forward from a side profile? And the lower jaw matching. That's very attractive to me.
For those who don't believe him, there's a ton of research on this done by Dr. John and Mike Mew. Their channel is called Orthotropics
I wish I didn't have extractions. I got to grow and live pretty well till 17. It's all downhill from there.
can you explain what's happened to you, symptom-wise? the harmful effects of premolar extractions horrify me :(
Same here... I got my braces @ 17 and they extracted 4 teeths. 2 years with braces and I lost my confidence from there . after taking out braces everyone said it was better before braces
@@fellooowhuman i'm so sorry 😭 what symptoms did you have? did it just ruin your face?
@@hyundisy after taking off braces my jaw became long and cheeks looks sunken. Braces changed my jawline structure. I think it's happened because of teeth extraction.
@@fellooowhuman brother did you had an underbite?
I've had all my wisdom teeth out a few montha ago, not only because it was making my teeth crooked but it was also because it was causing me pain. The wisdom teeth grew under the flesh so it was impacting onto my molars but also the nerves. Everyone has their reasons, should believe that with the help of advice.
True, I got my bottom two extracted cause I needed to, but kinda wish I didn’t get my top extracted. I mistakenly thought they were all impacted so I removed once of my bottom, it healed and then top and bottom from the other side but forgot about my upper top one, then I noticed it grew out normally and got in my mouth. Turn out that only the bottom two were impacted, not the top. Had I not removed the other one (getting the top on bottom on the same side to “rush” the process) I would’ve kept both my upper cause they were actually not impacted but I ended up removing the 4th one as to not cause asymmetry. After examining my face though I know that it doesn’t have an affect on my facial structure but it sometimes upsets me cause it was 2 unnecessary extractions. My bottom ones did bother me though so those needed to go lol!
I still need to get some ortho done cause I never did (I’m in my early 20s) but I’m kind of glad I never did as a kid cause I feel like with the issues I have, retractive ortho is pretty common and it would’ve definitely messed up my facial structure. Like, knock on wood, my face is pretty okay and most people don’t actually know/can’t tell I have some minor jaw and teeth alignment issues
Maybe old school orthodontists. Now they would use a spacer to create gaps then use braces to straighten them, no more unnecessary pulling
Definitely, the field is moving forward! But there are still a handful of people suffering from extraction-retraction orthodontics ):
as someone who had/has crooked teeth, they dont do that anymore, and often these teeth are causing pain, and, in my cade, cavities, because you can't clean there probably
I think my ortho is the only doctor that refused to remove all my wisdom teeth because they were not in a bad position.
I have 6 visible molars in my lower jaw 😂
Mirin😻
Yikes
You should make a video for teenagers who have crooked teeth and how to fix that without ruining health or facial aesthetics.
Will appreciate it
stay tuned
@@JawHacks For sure ,love your content because of you I didn't get extractions and braces thanks man
I got wisdom teeth surgery and after a few months my cheeks sunk in and I got that droopy eyes appearance and I have been having breathing difficulties bc of it. I'll be getting Orthotropics soon trying to solve all this mess 😭
I’m 100% positive wisdom teeth surgery didn’t cause any of those issues.
He knows you can get braces and Invisalign without removing teeth right? Right?
This makes me think about doctor appointments when I was a kid I think my mom fucked me up and as I get older I’m starting to feel that 🤷🏾♂️idk I could be wrong tho
I’ve had a very narrow palette and bad breathing, braces have made my face more full, wider palette/ jaw, now I breath better then ever, the key is to never get teeth extracted.
Did braces give you a wider palate or did you get mse?
@@barackputin no I’ve always had a narrow palette but when I got regular traditional braces it’s made it wider and I can fit more of my tongue. Mewing has helped a lot aswell
@@Vats77 my palette could be a lot wider but it’s cause it was very narrow I see a difference.
@@Vats77 aesthetic wise, I have a wider jaw and even cheek bones popped out brought my face more forward making my skin tighter on my face, since it was recessed before because of mouth breathing, function wise I’m breathing a lot better through my nose and a stronger bite when I’m chewing.
@@Vats77 I was mewing for a bit before I got braces , it’s about to be 6 months since I got them, still have 1 year left, currently 19 year old
''And ill pull your crooked teeth
You'll be perfect just like me
We must never be apart''
I don’t claim to be an expert but everyone I know who’s had braces has had them work perfectly fine. Seems like some people would rather fabricate conspiracies than accept that shit happens sometimes.
They do work fine in MOST cases. Even then, they still cost a lot, compared to something that's basically free.
Ok Dr youtube, I won’t be taking any fashion advice either
My husband has all his teeth. They are a little crooked, but he has the loveliest smile and a great square jaw. His parents were poor so he never saw a dentist. He went for the first time at 30. No cavities, no plaque. Our dentist was like, "well just come back when you feel like it. Like in three years or something. I'm not really worried."
For everybody using the “they don’t do that anymore” critique, have you stopped to think what are they doing today that they won’t be doing anymore in the future?
That’s the point of his argument.
you get it, the cognitive dissonance is unreal lol
They are starting to venture more into Jaw Surgery territory. Which it's more invasive than retract and extract. But you keep your teeth and improve the structure.
In my case my mouth was so small they decided to expand instead of remove, but only sideways and not forwards. So I still have the smooshed face. 🤦♀️
Dental student here if the doctor removes the premolars it is just enough to fix the crooked ones or if they want a small space they will use a small saw look it up
i regret getting my wisdom teeth removed. I have a lot of space and it just messed up my jaw. I did it because pressured as teen by parents
they'll just give you an expander (expands the upper or lower palate to make room for the straight teeth)
Registered Dental Assistant here, Some People get pre-molars or wisdom teeth removed so orthodontic treatment can begin. If you have no space for your teeth to shift you'll need your teeth pulled. There are malpractice doctors who take advantage of patients for money but that's not the case for most people. I have braces and I don't need to get my wisdom teeth removed because my teeth weren't that bad to begin with.
Removing healthy teeth just so someone can have a nice business model of making a superficial appearance of straight, healthy teeth is barbaric. Where are the long term longitudinal studies proving safety and patient satisfaction? If orthodontics was held to the same standards as actual medicine it would have been shot down long ago.
@@flyondonnie9578 lmfao as if malpractice in regular medicine doesn’t happen but this isn’t common in orthodontics not even 20 years ago nobody i knew as a kid ever had to get teeth pulled for their braces this was common practice in the 80s, now it’s only really needed if the patient is an adult whose jaw is no longer growing and it’s done after they get their braces off if they end up with flared teeth if there aren’t other possible treatment options and they don’t want to get jaw surgery
Hello! I recently read a post that mentioned that after a tooth extraction, the jaw shrinks a little and I had a question. If wisdom teeth are removed, will it negatively affect the appearance?
Teeth removal is coz of crowding. If i straightened my teeth without removals then id have mad flared teeth
I had 2 teeth pulled when I was 10 or so than all 4 wisdom teeth because they were impacted. No braces an every dentist said it was a good choice an I have no issues. This isn’t a one shoe fits all thing.
When i mew my mouth gets try and when do i known that my tongue is even pushen to my roof of my mouth pls give me tips
When you open your mouth suddenly it does a pop sound, like a vacuum that for the whole tongue.
If it touches only the tip of the tongue then its a tisksound
I’m questioning what line of reasoning is correct since I’ve heard that overcrowding occurs due to people having small jaws that cannot accommodate the teeth that they have. While bone underneath may resorb due to lack of teeth, it’s not like taking out teeth that don’t fit would cause such resorption, no?
Thats crazy because at like 17 i was in the post operation block, ready to get my 4 wisdom teeth removed, « because i didnt have enough room in my mouth and they could become impacted »
When the nurse came, i had the most profound intuition, like something that would happen a few times in a lifetime at best, and I knew i had to leave this place asap and not get it extracted.
I just listened to this profound, pure innate knowing and just left. My mother was furious about it.
Later on i discovered mike mew, started expanding with mewing, proper swallowing, some palatal expander ( i couldnt get mse unfortunately, nobody does it around where i live), and guess what all of my wisdom teeth grew perfectly straight and are now totally out
Always listen to your intuition, when it happens to you and you think there is something wrong, chances most of the times there is something wrong.
Thank god i still have all my 32 beautiful teeth! Spread knowledge to young parents you might know, educate them so that they can make the best decisions for their childrens!
the entire purpose of this channel is to inform people to not BLINDLY follow conventional “wisdom” when it comes to your health, “experts” can easily harm your health as well as they can help it. thanks for sharing your story!
They don’t do that unless it’s a really bee case when there is lots of crowding they usually just slightly saw teeth down so there is space to move
I have an overbite and I am having braces. I have also my wisdom teeth and my orthodontist did not even say anything about pulling out my teeth. He just said that my teeth bill get back and reduce my 9mm overbite and that is it. No teeth extraction.
This can’t be any truer I never needed braces I was born with perfect teeth and when they dentist pulled a back tooth I needed out my teeth shifted and my front one moved my teeth are still straight but no where how they were he’s so right
Man I got braces at 16, My teeth looks nice when I smile but... I should have gotten a "mouth expander " with the while having the braces.
Since, at currently 19, I realise that dispite my teeth are aline and put together the tongue space I have it's to narrow, my teeth structure it's too narrow. So I'll get a mouth expander, so that I can fully expand my tongue and Mew properly, It's not a big deal, I have pretty decent jawline, but I want to make sure of not regretting nothing on the future.
OrthoTropics- instead of traditional orthodontics
Has helped my daughter and no teeth pulled- she has had a mouth device for 3 years now and her teeth have straightened out as well as airway expanded. Helps to prevent sleep apnea etc look up before and afters
I have 2 extra teeth i my front of the upper jaw that is causing a severe crocked teeths..... I am age 15 btw.
What's your opinion jawhacks should i get them extracted???? I will appreciate if you answer.
Hello. I had 4 wisdom teeth, but last summer I removed one tooth in the lower jaw. They are almost fully grown. Should I remove the second wisdom tooth in the lower jaw?
Did you notice any facial asymmetry (i.e. the extracted side possibly more shrunken or hollow than the other) and have your top wisdoms fully erupted yet? Sometimes after pulling a tooth in the mandible, if the upper has no lower tooth contacting it anymore, it can eventually supraerupt. You should probably talk to more dental professionals regarding the matter, and make sure to include a mix of both who advocate to keep and advocate to pull. I had my two bottoms removed & definitely would have preferred to see someone who advocated to keep them instead of my old dentist.
What about those with underbites?
My sister has a mild underbite and her orthodontists recommend her braces but since her face/mouth was still in the process of growing, she had to wait it out. she’s been waiting for her orthodontists to give her the go for getting her braces but when she was around 16-17 they told her apparently it’s now too late…
I don’t know man, there’s this guy on RUclips, the bentist, and he talks all about how they don’t remove teeth anymore very much
When i mew my mouth gets try and when do i known that my tongue is even pushen to my roof of my mouth
Hey JawHacks!! Now i've got a question for you tho:
If i don't remove any premolars will my jaws become recessed or will they remain normal?
what about pulling teeth out in overbites (not underbites)? isnt it more aesthetic to have the lower jaw/chin more foward anyway?
Well my mom had crowded lower teeth and had to take away 2 teeth to make space...
She hated the look of her face so maybe this is true?
They pulled one tooth on top for braces and my molars out in my 20s and now I have a major cant and issues with swallowing food.
u r partially correct the extraction might worsen the face profile ,that's why they do extraction only if the face profile is getting some improvement with tooth extraction
If you don’t want extractions either get a pallet expander or get self ligating braces like the Damon braces
He’s right about it being unnecessary, new orthodontists don’t pull out teeth to straighten them. Most cases, even bad ones can be taken care of with expanders, Invisalign or braces. Older orthodontists are used to pulling out teeth for an easy fix.
My dentist won't remove a tooth unless it is falling out on its own. Is it broken but otherwise sitting fine? We'll fix it.
He had to remove my father's teeth though, because the dentist before him decided to treat periodontitis... Which my father did not have 🙃 he just pulled 13 absolutely healthy teeth with his bare fingers, because they were so loose....
But your face/ jaw is fine, so hows that true about teeth extraction? Did you do some other thing? Or did you just not develop that chin recession?
Luckily for me my orthodontist never pulled any teeth when I got braces, but my fucking orthodontist isn’t listening to me when I expressed concern about the occlusal cant I have. He says the bite plane looks fine but the cant is very noticeable in pictures and in the before picture the orthodontist took and probably in the x-rays too
You can get that thing that stretches out your jaw and allows more bone to grown then if teeth are fucked after that treatment braces to straighten them out doesn't seem like an issue.
As someone who has braces I really don't know what to do right now
what about clear braces? and teeth that have gaps and are stuck out?
I had crocked teeth. I got 6 removed and then braces. My teeth are much better today than back them. Am glad i did it.
Ok but how is your facial profile ?
@@tolgahangultekin8250 good:)
POV: you were waiting for the “PUUHHHHH”
I got my 1 molar pulled that was stuck and won’t go up and in my case I’m okay since that molar was useless in the first place and I couldn’t even bite with it. So extraction can be good. The one your talking about is the one where they extract and bring the teeth together and I think that’s the bad one.
Plus I’m getting a implant which is better than a actual teeth
Yes, what he says is true! Some people DO need to get wisdom teeth removed and go down to 28 teeth but always be sure to do your own research and question them, question all doctors for anything in general cause it’s not safe to put blind faith in others, even if they’re considered experts, second and third opinions are always possible!
i have overbite and i got 2 upper premolars removed i got braces, they are trying to pull my front teeth back but i stopped going to dentist for a while because i wanted to get second or third opinions i am still 18 and am waiting molat teeth, my mandibular is small and my maxillary and palette is just a couple milimeters smaller rhan it has to be, i need urgent advice
I was skeptical but then I heard the music and I knew he was legit. Thanks for looking out my guy 😂
he ain't legit dawg💀
So I should of just let my top k9 teeth take out all 4 of my front teeth? Sounds like a good idea
i had 4 premolars extracted + 4 wisdoms teeth in preparation of a second class surgery ,my face is much worse and i look bad now,i was said that i needed to do extractions because i have both the palate and the lower arch small,i also talked with some docs and they said i will improve after the surgery....can anyone suggest to me what to do ?should i get implants after surgery?
My daughter has braces and they didnt extract any of her teeth, but i gmhabe heard that some need to extract them
If your crowding you have to remove teeth but now days the use a jaw expander instead
Had 4 teeth removed , and my wisdom teeth only grew halfway, still alive so far
Now I don't know what is good,bad or safe anymore😢
Even if it’s true, I’m not taking it from this kid.
How do we know this is true, though? What’s are your sources?
will my jaws recess if I only got my wisdom teeth removed? i can see from the animations presented in the video that it’s only the premolars that are extracted. i wonder if the same effect will happen if only my wisdom teeth was removed
depends on your case, if wisdoms are impacted they need to be removed (or you risk serious complications). if not, leave them be. ideally you keep all your teeth but modern diets/habits have ruined jaw size(s)
@@JawHacks dentist recommended me to get my wisdom teeth pulled due to an underbite,(then braces instead of mse) they stay away from getting k9 removed. Thoughts?
@@JawHacks I see, so even if my wisdom teeth were impacted and it were removed, My jaws will still recess?
But the complications of impacted wisdom teeth is much worse than the complications of a recessed face that results in extracting my impacted wisdom teeth?
so sorry if I'm being vague but I hope you understand
im almost done with my braces (6 ish months left and theyre off) and i havent had any teeth pulled
But you look fine and good enough . How did the extractions affect your face?
Ok i have an overbite and i am in braces for a year now. They took 4 teeth out I had one crooked tooth. Idk but let's say it'll look good Hope so
I had my wisdom teeth pulled. Will this have an affect on aesthetics ?
If you are under a certain age you can expand the palate
What about space out teeths tho?
So if you get braces without getting teeth pulled is all right
I'm almost 23 and worried that maxillar expansion wont work and cause issues if my lower jaw stays stays thin. Upper teeth already overlap bottom
As a dentist with basic knowledge of orthodontics I would not recommend you to get maxillary expansion if what you claim that your upper teeth overlap your lower teeth because it will only make the issue more severe. Upper jaw expansion is done in cases where the lower jaw is normal and the upper jaw is small. In cases where the lower jaw is smaller maxillary expansion will only make it look further smaller
@@NFKhan-eu3ff okay. I don't really think I have a problem with my teeth at all anymore, there is a tiny bit of overlap but not much. Dentints have always said I had good teeth and never had problems. Watching these vids just makes me overthink.
@@NFKhan-eu3ff my lower jaw is normal but my upper teeth slightly overlap, but from a visual standpoint I feel like I need to bring the upper jaw more forward even though I don’t have an underbite
@@ryanmacleod2227 well as a dentist myself if another dentist says your teeth are good then you best believe they are.
@@sady1139 our facial profile but only depends on how our jaws and teeth are positioned but also depend on our other facial features as well. It can be that your teeth compensated for the upper jaw. But again I think you should see a dentist. No harm in expressing concern for it.
I have four wisdom teeth coming out 3 are coming out fine while one is coming at a bad angle and probably have to be removed. But do you think I should remove the other three if they are coming out right?
@bash er That’s interesting I will try that. Thank you for replying
I have the same problem, one of my bottom wisdom teeth is perfectly straight and in 90% out and the other is a bit more fucked up (I don't have any upper wisdom teeth idk why). I have all of my teeth even though I had braces and my facial structure after braces got a lot better and I don't want to ruin it
I don’t have my top wisdom teeth but my bottom are coming in at a poor angle, doc is saying I gotta get them removed. Idk what do do because I don’t the money for MSE yet, I’m stuck, any tips?
if they're impacted, you may have to get them removed. there are methods to keep them but very complicated and almost no ortho/surgeon in the world is willing to use it. google "TAD molar uprighting"
I appreciate this. Thank you for explaining the truth about facial health to these health ignorant Simps. I still have and intend to keep my wisdom teeth.👍
My mom didn’t let me get surgery because of this reason!
I got 6 teeth pulled out. 😞
I had braces and numerous teeth pulled. My face looks nothing like those pictures lol, it looks very similar to yours.
It'll fall and collapse slowly
But i mean it depends on person to person, if you have an underbite, you will have to remove two teeth from the bottom jaw just so the bottom jaw goes behind and the upper jaw overlaps the bottom... And it makes absolute sense to me if you wanna get braces done.
Wait what, why am I having these kind of YT shorts while I have braces on😭 This makes me so insecure!!