MG Metro 6R4 on the Goodwood Rally Stage made me SCREAM !
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- I get to meet a childhood hero...the legendary Group B monster that is the MG Metro 6R4. A 400 horsepower, mid-engined AWD Mini Metro that was born from the 1980's Group B Rally era. With an 11,000 RPM red line experiencing this car around the Goodwood Festival of Speed Rally Stage is something I will remember for a very long time !
A huge thanks to the owner Martin for enabling me to share to wonderful and historic car with you guys !
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Love the 70s style golden wonder script,I’m old enough to remember it,when a packet of crisps was filled to the top.
Michael Pegasiou , golden days!
Michael Pegasiou
And cheese and onion flavour was in a green bag , like god intended
And they weren’t nearly a quid a bag!!!
LOL !
Loved it.still spent my pocket money crisp and I'm 47.
I remember the sound of these blasting through the welsh forests in the 80’s, you could hear them coming for miles !
Amazing !
You lucky lucky sod. They were the best times of rally.
They were 👍
Rs200 as well 🤤
@@thewippit2400 Not forgetting the beautiful Lancia 037
@@PetrolPed He had to get a move on Ped, he'd left his razor at the finish line. !!
A great nostalgic moment ! I remember those days, watching the RAC rally ,the best times. Sad day , the demise of the group B rally cars. Kudos to Martin for preserving this car, and for staying cool with you screaming down his ear, and waving your arms about insanely!!!!
I did scream a bit 😜
The car club I was in during 85/86 was asked if we could Marshall some local stages in Wales as Tony Pond and Rob Arther were testing the MG 6r4. You could hear the car coming well before you saw it. It was an incredible time. When Tony arrived at our control, we had a quick chat with both crew. Tony was full up with the flu, but when asked about how it was affecting his driving, he said as soon as the clutch dropped, the adrenalin kicked in and just drove as he usually did!! Flat out. Great guys to meet 👍😎
Wow...what a great story 👍
Similar story, during the 1985 Lombard RAC Rally. Not long a member of my motor club (8 months) and we were asked to marshal Stang forest (stage before Hamsterly). As I was carrying on into the rally with some lads, I got to marshal arrivals. Every grp B coming in was amazing to stand beside (like the waste gate ports on the Lancia Delts S4 or the marshal warmers as we nick named them) but the Metro even more so.Tony, Rob and Malcolm (can't remember Malcolm's nav) were fairly chatty whilst getting ready, unlike the rest of the foreign drivers. The feeling stood next to the ticking over Metro was felt through the body.
One day I'll get a ride in one
That was brilliant , your reaction and the pure pleasure you showed as you crossed the finish line was magic 👍
Thanks Andy...it was a very special moment 👍
In my opinion.. the greatest sounding rallycar ever!! Would love to have been in your shoes!
It sounded mega 👌
Yep !
naaahhhh.........Audi Quattro forever .....THE SOUND FROM HELL !!
I ADMIT THO THIS IS DEFFO SECOND !!
Takes me right back to Lydden rallycross circuit 1986 watching Will Gollop sling it round like a loony... Great memories of one of my all time favourite cars, cheers!
Will Gollop...total legend !
And his rival Martin Schanche ......... great times
Spent many days down there watching those two. Was there when gollop crashed. Massive
@@fuzzy1237 The power of those cars always astounded me.
Went a little way to keep the Group B dream alive.
Anyone who tows a 962 with a blower Bentley fully deserves the title ‘Legend’.
Oh yes 👏
What a sound, in that Bentley blower
Yeah, he is a "Legend"
ruclips.net/video/n3KKSnOJP_c/видео.html
The hell does this guy do for work..
or just a lucky posh boy
Brain drain he owns a building company that builds and renovates pubs, clubs and restaurants.
Thanks Pete, that was epic. As a very old rally driver (late 1960s / early 1970s) I was long retired by the Group B era but that had my feet twitching like a goodun. I wonder if I still have it in me......
You never lose it my friend 👍
I`m sure you do, David, once a rally driver, always a rally driver!
wow Martin - what a great guy, and he wants to share his passion, if your reading this Martin you have my respect, nice one.
I'll let him know. Hope to do more with him in the future as he had an amazing car collection 👍
Definitely my all time favourite of the incredible Group B race cars. The 6R4 looks absolutely insane, sounds like a supercar (which is appropriate with the engine ending up in the XJ220!) and is frighteningly rapid!!! Awesome car!!!
Totally agree. All the group B cars were fantastic, but the 6R4 holds a special place in my memory. The noise of that V6 wailing through a cold Welsh forest is unforgettable.
just perfect dont make them like that bring back group B and the metro a joke in its day but not the 6r4 legend car nver to be forgotten
Watched these leave and arrive @Bath during the SW stage of the Lombard RAC rally up until they stopped in 86. Tony Pond brought his to our school and ripped up the playground as a special treat and a petrolhead was born in me forever!!
I’ve been lucky enough to have a ride in one of these too. My dads boss had one and took me for a spin around his fields back in the early 90’s when I was in my early teens. He called his the ratmobile as it was pink and white!!!! What a machine, the noise, the ride the adrenaline rush, just amazing. Definitely my favourite rally car of all time. Nice one ☝️
That is so cool !
What a brilliant fast drive from a genuinely nice and truly down to earth bloke. That was awesome Pete thankyou. Many Regards Steve. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
He sure is a top bloke !
I was once driven round a special woodland rally stage in Wales, by a professional driver, at night ... It was absolutely terrifying/amazing! just missing trees by inches at 100mph.
It's difficult to convey on video the feeling of driving on a knife-edge of control.
I so agree 👏
Back in the 80s I worked for a well known Ferrari dealer in Surrey I used to pick allsorts of cars from all over the country and drive them back to base I picked up one of these 6R4s This video brought it all back to me the transmission noise I thought I would open it up just to see what it had .......and the throttle stuck open ! I s**t myself I managed to take it out of gear and stop it and the throttle unstuck itself Needless to say I took it really slow back for the rest of my journey scared it might happen again if I booted it
OMG !!! I bet you kept that to yourself 😂
Great vid Pete, I have great memories of that very car, working late nights bringing it out of hibernation and getting it on the button before it was sold to its current owner about 5 years ago. It is a privilege to work on such cars and to see them being enjoyed properly, gathering dust the exciting way!
No way !
I used to watch this very car testing around the industrial estate as I was in comp school around 20 year ago, good to see the old girl cuz of this my first car had to be a metro gti with a vvc lump loved it smashed some serious cars with that.
Bring back group B rally cars , brings back such great memories !
I went to a private test session of Metro 6R4's recently. A guy who was testing his 6R4 brought a 100 litre fuel tank with him. I said to him that's lot of fuel for a test session. He replied "Not really it uses 1 litre per mile when driven like this, so I might get a 100 miles out of it!"
Also the car in the video is not a works spec 3.0 410bhp one it's a 2.5 version 370bhp @10,75rpm
WOW !😳
So glad they kept the Metro gearbox whine. Love that sound
lol
Lol
What a machine ...the scream of the straight cut gearbox is just fantastic! No wonder Group B ended when manufacturers were putting this sort of stuff into cars like a metro! Absolute legend Martin - have stayed at the Hotel de France - real enthusiasts hotel and would recommend! Thanks for taking us along Pete
My pleasure 👍
The Golden Wonder 6R4 was owned and driven by Ken Wood in the Scottish Rally championship back in the 1980's. The original registration number was 261 GWC (for Golden Wonder Crisps)
Don't know if this is the same car.
BTW - cheese n onion are the best ❤
Have to disagree with you Andy, I think Tomato Ketchup was better.....
Cheese and onion 👍. Bloody strong flavour if I remember right
Think this car was owned in the 90's by welsh man Peter lloyd,hence the number plate,PLR Peter Lloyd Rallying
Duh!! 🤦♂️ As he said 😂👍
Greetings from 🇫🇷 ! What a car ! even my heart beat for Peugeot, I always loved this iconic car which I was able to recognize instantly on the stages through his V6. Glorious days. MERCI !!
mon plaisir 👍
To quote The Life Of Brian
“You lucky Bastard!”
Sorry 😪😜😂
the only rally car that gets my vote.. i had goose bumps just watching. awesome car .
Cheers Andy 👍
The best sounding v6 of all time, shame this car didn't have a longer career, it had huge potential in those anything goes group b days, glad to see that enthusiasts are still campaigning them.
This 6R4 was not even driven at a fraction of full potential and yet it still gives goose-bumps & cheerful screaming to the passenger bloke..🙂
imagine same stage in full-rain and pedal to the floor.. madness.. here is the 6R4 owned & driven by Colin McRae that was restored but detuned by the specialists who restore it from alarming 13.000rpm to 9500 rpm it still sounds pretty epic.. ruclips.net/video/pa3yEQGEV5w/видео.html
Welsh Rally Clocaenog Forest 1985 a 6R4 went off and a friend and I helped lift it back onto the fire road. Then it wouldn't start so we pushed it for a bump start. It felt as if it weighed 5 tons. Then I remembered that it had three locked diffs.
The driveline friction was incredible. You must need 400 bhp just to turn the transmission!
Wow !
Hi Ped
Epic👍👍👍
Sheer nostalgia, yes I have to admit I am old enough to remember Group B rally cars, bl...y marvellous.
Thanks mate for sharing the ride. Loved the picture of the blower towing the race car that is in the true spirit of the Bentley Boys😁😁
Hope to do more with Martin. He has some very special cars 👍
My all time favourite group b car and very underrated imo. What a sound . I love it
Used to Marshall in the South Wales forests back in the 80's and the Metro 6R4 was by FAR the best car off a standing start imo, BEAST!!! Peter LLoyd Rallying? from the South Wales Valleys, he used to have a rally shop up Pontycymer way if I remember correctly.
Thanks for this 👍
Absolutely loved that - enthusiasm of both you and the guy who owned the car are why I love motorsport - not corporate! Just big grins driving proper cars!
Absolutely 💪
I used to be back up support crew for my Dads boss’s son who had one of these and it was mad and John couldn’t half drive it and we one several rally’s back in the mid 1980s..... good times 👍
Fantastic 👏
what a real nice guy, lucky you. Love the Lada Riva he parked next to also, rear wheel drive fun inexpensive car. Were there, and will be going back every year now.
You need to get yourself a ride in a 2019 new era WRC now mate, you won't believe how technology has changed rally cars, the new era cars with the aero packages are just as epic as group B just a lot more controllable lol. I'm officially jealous, excellent video 👍🏁
That would be cool. Hopefully have a drive in a gravel spec Lancia Delta later this year 👍
@@PetrolPed
Lancia Delta Integrale HF, even the name is breaking the speed limit lol. You will absolutely love it Pete, awesome car whether in road or rally spec 👍🏁
Batshit boring to watch tho.
Love video brings back memories. I used to test drive them at Unipart test center Cowley. 1983 to 84👍
WOW...cool !
The Pug from the same period was a 205 T16 not 206 T16 but i'll let that go as you were so excited about going for a blast in the 6R4
I was indeed just getting excited. My bad for the slip of the tongue 😪
@@PetrolPed no worries fella I've never seen a 6R4 in real life tbh :(
I'd just like to add that some of the videos on youtube about the MG Rover rallying project i.e the 6R4 are amazing tbh.
I doubt either that I'll ever see one down here in Perth Western Australia.
I lived in the UK from 1974 to 2009 until I emigrated!
Brilliant run! Anyone who complains about the engine on the Jaguar XJ220 just need to watch this to get it.
Indeed 👍
Your best video yet!!! Always loved the 6R4 myself. (First saw them on Grandstand on their rallycross coverage,mid to late 1980s)and is my all time favourite rally car also. You are 1 very lucky person 👍👍👍
Oh wow, thanks Graham 🙏
I loved the Class B cars. 🏁💕
Me too 👍
Megga what cars they were... monsters that & rs200 & 205 t16 rally my ultimate dream cars...
no Lamborghini or Ferrari can compare for this man...
Totally agree. If I won the lotto my car garage would be 70s and 80s only! And the only Italians allowed would be wearing a Lancia badge!!
They are so old skool too 👌
I’m smiling as wide as I think you were just watching how much you enjoyed that!
What a top bloke for taking you with him. Bravo that man.
He’s a top chap 👍
Petrol Ped hope I get to meet him one day & he’s feeling just as charitable cos that’s an opportunity I would jump at too!
Thanks for the reply!
I remember will gollops 6r4 back in the 90’s phenomenal speed
Oh yes 👍
Wow...i remember the 6r4 as a teenager in wales and was amazed by it...how lucky to get to go in one great vid thanks for sharing 👍👍
I am. A childhood dream come true 🙏
Hated the metro but loved the 6r4, and along with the rs200 it was my favourite rally car
The RS200 was ace !
I had blue one that was put into storage for 20 years and when I opened up the garage to take it for a spin all that was found of it was a little pile of rust in the middle of the garage floor. Best little 1.0 litre I’ve ever driven. 😃
Lucky man!
The 6R4 is my all time favourite rally car, so well done for getting a ride. Group B rallying days were the very best!
You need to get a drive in one next!
RS200 next, or maybe the Delta S4...???
What a guy that Martin is with that Bentley..! And a hotel!
Glad you enjoyed it, Peter!
I hope to be doing more with him in the future. He has an amazing car collection 👌
The group b cars were such emotive, raw and crazy cars.....the noise ❤ , the 6R4 and Quattro were my favourites. For wonderful noise it has to be the 6R4, even better than the warbling Audi ! Great video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
I was lucky enough to get a ride in the same car on the Sunday when it was much wetter. Still it was an amazing experience and thanks to Martin for making it so much fun. Roll on next year at the FoS.
That track in the wet must have been terrifying !
It was exciting that's a fact. It was so slippery it was what I imagine driving on ice must be like. It wasn't fast, obviously, but still incredible. I hope to get the chance to ride with Martin again next year if he's there.
Great video, thanks so much for sharing your incredible experience! I've also had the pleasure of meeting Martin at an event (Oulton Park Gold Cup 2018) and he's such a nice guy, a genuine petrolhead with impeccable taste in cars. Best wishes from Leeds 🙂
Cheers Gary. A top bloke indeed 👍
I went to the British motor museum this weekend Pete for the Ford festival, anyway they have got a 6R4 in the museum and I completely share
your excitement for this Metro. Awesome group B machine.
I've always loved them 👍
I worked for BT in Oxford in the 80’s got called to a portacabin in a compound at the Cowley factory. Outside we’re all 200 homologation 6R4’s. My question to head of Motorsport John DAVENPORT. Me “Is that the 6R4” JD “Yes” Me “can I go and have look at them” JD “No. Next question”. Awesome car Awesome video
Brilliant 👏
Been in one of these fast as hell but couldn't hear myself think when in it a truly great experience
So loud !
Love goodwood for the car owners like this. Got to love this guy for the tow bar on the Bentley blower. As British as they come. One for thinking it was a good idea, two, for knowing it would do it with ease.
He’s a top bloke 👍
What a privilege....
Thanks to you AND the owner for sharing. I love old school tearaways!! 😎😎😎
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I bought the hotel after two bottles of red wine.I put a towbar on the Bentley 😂😂😂excellent! What a bloke🤙
Legend !
Wow, echoing an earlier comment, your best vlog yet. What an experience !!. Amazing to see the drivers view of the rally course, especially in something as iconic as a 6R4.
Back in the day group B was as big as formula 1 and the cars were nuts. I never got to see them back in the day, so the rally stage at Goodwood is my chance to see the 6R4s, RS200s, Lancias etc in action.
It was such a special experience 👍
I don't care what the so called experts say about that car; it is still one of the best rally cars ever made. Made for the purpose of going fast on a stage, nothing else. Noise, smell, speed! Job done!
It sure was 👏
I saw one of these cars when I was at the Snowman Rally must have been 1985, I think I was 11 at the time.
I've had a few fast cars but driving a metro 6r4 from my era when I was a little kid would have been my dream come true bro!!!
Sure was 👍
It is Tony Pond's 6R4 in the museum Pete :-) and what a bloke, towing at 95mph in a blower how cool.
Too cool for school 😜
I was lucky to get a vip ride with the national rally champion in his 6R4, on the press and media day years ago in the Forest of Dean, wow what a ride it was like a missile down the forest tracks,the noise and hearing the sounds hitting the underside of the car. It sthe best 2 mins in my life unreally and a British engineering masterpiece.
Awesome 👏
Love then Group B ,Grizedale forrest 1985 Rac Rally, just down the road from my house.
Oh wow...that place was legendary !
1986 was a good year for the 6R4, David Llewellin and Phil Short won the Circuit of Ireland, giving Austin Rover's 6R4 it's first International Rally win.
I used to like the Metro GTI in racing green.God how old mate 😂 Great stuff this is what it is all about 😍🏎💨
I think this body type is maybe more like the MG Metro Turbo???...which is even older. :D
I just watched Harry's Garage Peter at Silverstone Auctions, They had a 6R4 , The price tag was just under £250,000 , Serious car This video was super awesome
Cheers Lee...it is a very valuable car 👌
My all time favourite car!!!!!
That was soooo cool. Considering how rare these 6r4's are and parts that are literally unobtainable unless u have them made, it's great to see it still being used for us all to enjoy... loved the jump👍🤗
Glad you liked it!
That seemed a proper stage, was expecting a short "demo" stage. Please more of these if possible, especially in a modern rally car.
It was designed by Hannu Mikkola 👍
What a sound ... !
My sound goes to a 250 watts amplifier and to big floorstanding speakers. I think I got the same sound experience as you, and the rest. The video and a good passion helped med with it. Thank you both.
I bet that sounded ace 👌
Patrick Head was the project leader for this. He went on to be top dog at Williams F1. The engine was a rover V8 with 2 cylinders chopped off.
Yes correct a 90 degree v6 (ilo 60 or 120 degree) with shared big end pins (so no flying webs normal to 60 deg v6 cranks), so I believe has uneven firing pulses.
Absolutely fabulous.........yes I remember Tony Pond in 'his' Metro 6R4 during the BBC RAC Rally report, introduced by a very young looking J. Clarkson. Those were the days!!!!
They were indeed 👏
I watched them in action in the 80s ,,, memory’s
Also I live nr a place were they worked on the trim on the rs200 ,,used to see them regular driving along, as well as the tickford capri ,
I remember that car when I was younger loved it
Love that car it was somerhing speciell when it wery on a rally the sound is crazy nice
Without a doubt the greatest Group B rally engine noise ever!!
Oh yes !
Pete, could your life get any better chap😆 'What's that'...you've just been invited onto Bernie Eccleston Mega Yacht for a week! Holy Moly......it maybe just around the corner👍👍👍
LOL...that would be cool 👍
Amazing Metro 6R4 is my fave group B rally car but good lord its lethal 400bhp in such a tiny car is insane 0-60mph in 3 secs too lol
You two look so alike you could be brothers!
That was great! Really enjoyed this trip back in time to my marshalling days. Big thanks to the owner as well 👍
Thanks Gary 🙏
I did wonder if Martin was there this year! Martin is a good friend and i have worked on a few of his cars!
A top bloke 👍
Absolutely brilliant you must be as enthusiastic about the 6r4 as I am I love them I'm envious that it wasn't me in the passenger seat that would be a dream come true for me
I SAW A ROAD LEGAL FORD RS200 THE OTHER WEEK DRIVING WHERE I LIVE IN ESSEX.
There are quite a few copies/kit RS200 but still always great to see them 👍
Amazing video. 6R4 is a true legend. Thank you for taking us onboard. What a fantastic chap! did not realise he owned Hotel de France! Went there during the last Le Mans Classic. looking forward to going next year too!
Martin is a top bloke 👍
Group B was the pinnacle of all motorsport including F1 in my opinion, it just became a victim of it's own success. Too many crazy spectators lining the stages in ridiculously dangerous positions, consequently accidents were sadly unavoidable leading to deaths and the banning of group B 👍🏁
90s and early 00s BTCC was the pinnacle followed by group B I'd say 👍
@@DaleSteel
Alright Dale, I agree the BTCC was exciting during that period but Group B rallying will always be tops for me, so we agree to disagree lol. Ultimately all motorsport with 4 wheels is what I'm passionate about, I don't understand that 2 wheel business lol. All the best mate 👍🏁
100% correct, so good they had to ban it.
That was nothing short of EPIC!! Loved the 6R4 forever as had an old B reg MG Metro in white, wasn't the Turbo but loved it as was my first car. How I'd love to have had that passenger ride. Well chuffed for you Peter.
Thanks Alan, it was an amazing experience 👍
Amazing mate!!! I was there at goodwood on Saturday. It was so hot, i can't believe u had to wear all that gear! 😅 Well worth it though for a ride in that! Thanks for sharing 👍
I was a tad hot !
Fantastic event and great to see this car again I used to service crew a friends rally car when Peter lloyd used this car on many stage rallies..
No way...that's amazing 👍
Local shopkeeper has a 6R4 and it costs him a fiver just to get to the petrol station from where we are. They're thirsty beasts. Yes it's road legal for those wondering.
Very cool !
@@PetrolPed
I'm guessing they're worth a few quid nowadays too?
Awesome! Love all the Group B cars, especially the Metro!
Such cool little cars 👍
Really cool. It reminded me of James May doing 200mph+ in a Veyron and saying "When I had to slow down, I was still doing 70mph, but it felt slow enough to step out". That thing is brutal. You can see how hard he's working the wheel just to keep it going vaguely straight :)
Like riding a rocket 😂
That was very cool ! - I Enjoyed watching this great video of the Metro 6R4 experience !! Well done to you and Martin **Thumbs Up**
Thank you 🙏
@@PetrolPed You're very welcome man :-)
There's something very Ranulph Fiennes about the guy driving.
Definitely a Mini monster!!! As far as I can recall, basically Rover took the biggest engine from their biggest car at the time, the Rover 800, and shoved it in their smallest car, the Metro! A mate at work had a tuned Metro turbo for a while and that wasn't slow, even with an engine half the size of the 6R4's.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Metro
Engine was ' . It was powered by a David Wood designed bespoke 3-litre V6 powerplant which used some of the engine architecture of the Cosworth DFV. It.
800s had Honda v6 engines.
@@fastra3621 Crikey! Interestinger and interestinger! So it really was almost no holds barred!!!
@@wordreet amazingly so, makes you wonder where the money came from.
@@fastra3621 Good point and we may never know. All "British" car makers now are specialists so those days may never come again. Pretty nostalgic when you think about it.
@@wordreet that's the way all British industries now though, we've been reduced to men in sheds again. Governments have a lot answer to.
Casually, "Did I mention I own a hotel in France?" LOL
Not only A hotel, but pretty much the most famous one at LeMans. Wow.
Yes. about 3 or 4 times.
Yes i was there taling a shit But its an ok Hotel for 10 dollars a night and a bawl of beans in the morning .Nice ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@@myname7558 10 dollars the night? no way
@@zekkai1005
9$ but no beans ...😁
Well I’m glad the sound of that engine drowned out the screams, what a magical sound and it’s how an engine should sound, purrrrrrfect.
LOL !
That sound, i myself grew up loving the 6R4 its one of my all-time dream cars, never will i own one though, would love to know what happened to Will Gollops monster. very jealous
His had turbos and lots more ponies !!
@@PetrolPed yeah all the cars late 80's were beasts.....pretty sure Pat Doran RS200 was around 950bhp.
Legends
The drivers look of relief at the finish line says all you need to know about the nature of the 6r4.
Widow makers.
Oh yes !