IDRIVEACLASSIC reviews: Sinclair C5

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024

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  • @Parknest
    @Parknest 2 года назад +15

    RIP Sir Clive Sinclair. I remember these back in the day. They cost exactly the same brand new as a BBC Model B and the QL (another SInclair product) at £399. I had a 48K ZX Spectrum back in the 1980s. I still have a +2A which has been featured on my channel. These days, I get my fix on an emulator.

    • @tdp2612
      @tdp2612 2 года назад +2

      Sadly there is no emulator for the C5 experience, other than sitting in the middle of a busy road and hoping you don't get hit :)

    • @Parknest
      @Parknest 2 года назад

      Matt of Furious Driving owns a C5 and Steph of "idriveaclasic" has featured one on her channel.

  • @dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697
    @dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697 2 года назад +6

    It was an 80's suicidal death trap that a bicycle could beat on any terrain, you couldn't jump out off it like you could with a bicycle either, nor could you mount a curb etc. etc. etc. It was an invention with no redeeming qualities and harder to store away.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 2 года назад

      There’s a reason modern electric bicycles just look like mountain bikes.

    • @kyle8952
      @kyle8952 2 года назад

      @@kaitlyn__L A decent electric bike looks nothing like a mountain bike. What would you want knobbly off road tyres and tree stump climbing suspension on a bike for the elderly?

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 5 месяцев назад

      @@kyle8952 I mean the frame. Though the wheels are much thicker than road bike tyres, approaching motorbike territory, they’re generally not knobbly.

  • @Stephenb033
    @Stephenb033 2 года назад +5

    A kid at school had one of these, it was just the coolest thing ever.

  • @petersimpson5859
    @petersimpson5859 2 года назад +11

    These would make a lot of sense where there is decent cycling infrastructure like the Netherlands, especially with modern battery and motor technology. A suspension fork would aid comfort and braking too. I'd love a go in one.

    • @dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697
      @dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697 2 года назад +1

      Nah mate, a bicycle was faster, more controllable, and easier to store away, you couldn't even mount a curb with one. They were catastrophically poorly designed and when we're talking about modern tech, a simple E-bike would completely destroy it in everyway... Still, a go on one would be fine but you wouldn't catch me on a road in one, maybe an empty carpark at best.

    • @lasskinn474
      @lasskinn474 2 года назад +2

      The part where it falls apart is that an ebike thats in bike form factor is better in every single way(speed, visibility, cargo, ease of pedaling etc), even around a track, if you're not disabled in which case the c5 still sucks.

    • @petersimpson5859
      @petersimpson5859 2 года назад

      Not to mention the price. £400 in 1985 is about 1.5k now, which buys a lot of better alternatives. It was a brave move by Sinclair but I remember seeing them when new on TV and thinking how hazardous they seemed.

  • @Musician-Lee
    @Musician-Lee 2 года назад +2

    A friend of mine was one of a group of ladies who drove three C5s from Marble Arch to Paris for charity. They replaced the nylon drive gears with steel ones and carried spare 12v batteries in the support vehicle. They made it and raised thousands for a cancer charity. She still has her C5.

  • @Phiyedough
    @Phiyedough 2 года назад +2

    I used to repair washing machines for a living and these were built at the Hoover washing machine factory.

  • @timpearson5086
    @timpearson5086 2 года назад +3

    When they were newly released in 1985 a local shop in Leicester, where I was a student, sold them and also bought one which could be hired by the hour. For a dare with my mates I hired one for an hour and drove it around the city centre. Probably a a bigger head turner than a Ferrari would have been.

  • @robertlambert8719
    @robertlambert8719 2 года назад +2

    I remember these little machines coming out! I've only ever seen one in use once when they were current. Sir Clive Sinclair was a genius in many ways, perhaps a little ahead of his time with electric transport. How he must be laughing from Upstairs when he looks down at all the e-bikes, scooters etc! Very brave, Steph, for having a go in one on the road!👍👍

  • @stephenberry1205
    @stephenberry1205 2 года назад

    This Aussie was privileged to have an English friend in Bristol in 1990 with two Sinclair C5s.
    We explored parks and back roads having great fun and huge interest everywhere we ventured.
    I felt very vulnerable. I believe it was powered by a washing machine motor. It was rather feeble in power, speed and range. Limited battery needed pedal assist on hills.
    My friend Stephen said an enthusiast had souped one up getting 30 mph out of it... scary to contemplate.

  • @simonmayes7074
    @simonmayes7074 2 года назад

    Great video Steph as always 😁 was great to meet you at the practical classics show at the NEC as well 😊

  • @kieran1844
    @kieran1844 2 года назад +3

    Love the C5. Such a great review Steph and looked like you had a lot of fun.

  • @EVguru
    @EVguru 2 года назад +2

    15mph is the legal top speed for an ectrically assisted bicycle/tricycle (pure electrics are not currently legal). Tricycles were alowed to have more power than a bicycle, 250 Watt (1/3hp) rather than 200 Watt for a bicycle. In reality, the Hoover made motor (I had a Hoover brand motor on my old drill press), was more like 325 Watt continuous and double that peak. The British Standard for a motor said that it could not producess LESS than it's rated output, whilst the power assited regs just specified a power limit, a typical British regulatory ballsup. Harmonisation with European regs brought a small power increase, which was the continuous rating of the motor, not the peak.

    • @tdp2612
      @tdp2612 2 года назад

      Yeah the motor is actually pretty good, even on the sticker it says '250w' and yet '12v 29a' which doesnt exactly add up. If you have a look at the enthusiast created manual, the instant peak power can be up to 1000w for a second before stalling, which is why the gearboxes rip themselves apart on slow starts. Good old bureaucracy and a little incompetence mixed in

  • @neilbedford5082
    @neilbedford5082 2 года назад +1

    I clearly remember these when they were new. As youngsters into fast Mini's, Escorts & Capris, we never regarded the C5 as anything but naff (even then). It was a piece of history though - a well-intentioned novelty item and doubtless decades ahead of its' time, but a decent push-bike was a much better all-round deal. I don't blame you for keeping the test drive so short - but you can at least now say that you've driven one - and very few people can do that - Well done Steph!

  • @autisticlife
    @autisticlife 2 года назад +2

    I bought one new in 1985. I enjoyed it and owned it for 20 odd years. It is a bit limeted in town and I found riding a bicycle more practical and versatile.

  • @99cachorro
    @99cachorro 2 года назад +1

    The weather was also a problem. Make these a little bigger, enclosed and modern battery technology and you will have something

  • @richardhowlett9424
    @richardhowlett9424 2 года назад +2

    I remember the Sinclair C5 when it came out , I actually wanted one !

  • @blackpool321
    @blackpool321 2 года назад +4

    I remember when these came out , I'm sure there is an age limit of 14 yrs to drive /ride one of these powered bikes .

  • @volvo30
    @volvo30 2 года назад

    My Sunday just got a lot brighter after watching you have such fun driving the c5 lol. Hope you are enjoying the spring!

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool 2 года назад +1

    Sir Clive was a great British eccentric and maybe even a genius, no question. The C5 was just nuts. Well done for having a go, I don't think I would have!

  • @alastairwatson3201
    @alastairwatson3201 2 года назад +1

    Wow! A product before its time. If only it had had the benefit of today’s battery tech.

  • @geoffdundee
    @geoffdundee 2 года назад +1

    they would be brilliant if launched today however the potholes on roads would have to be sorted first

  • @philipeaton3102
    @philipeaton3102 2 года назад +2

    had a go in one when they first came out was terrifying

  • @Markustajahoyrylaiva
    @Markustajahoyrylaiva 2 года назад +2

    greetings from Poland

  • @fishrecharge
    @fishrecharge 2 года назад

    Love my C5's! Fitting it with gears is a great idea. Great video!

  • @11carbuff19572011
    @11carbuff19572011 2 года назад

    Hiya Steph. I saw one of these Sinclair C5s turn up on the TV series Dickinson's Real Deal, driven out of the location building by dealer Mark Stevens who bought it from someone who had it almost 40 years ago. Mark paid the seller only £300 for the product, this was in 2016, the show came from the City Hall in Sheffield.

  • @TPerry2828
    @TPerry2828 2 года назад

    At the Aviemore Centre in the mid 1980s they had a fleet of C5's (I say 'fleet' but when I visited half of them were out of action awaiting motor repairs) and I was fortunate enough to hire one for an hour. To be honest I spent more time actually peddling the thing than I did under electric power, the electric motor struggling with the hilly terrain at Aviemore. Being at / below car bumper height can be pretty terrifying in traffic. Despite the C5's many flaws it really was ahead of its time in many ways, and could be great fun on the flat and downhill. Bravo to the late Sir Clive for being brave enough to believe it might work.

  • @alistairshaw3206
    @alistairshaw3206 2 года назад

    I remember a local school teacher used to drive a C5 to his School. He was a technical teacher. He must have had a big heart to drive that!

  • @LiveSteamMad
    @LiveSteamMad 2 года назад

    I was more interested in that Westfalia VW T2 pop top roof Campervan behind you in the opening shot... lovely thing, would love to see a review on that one.

  • @bondbug73
    @bondbug73 2 года назад

    I remember two sales people driving these around Harrogate desperately trying to flog them for the original price of £399. They were selling for £99 by mid 85. Thirty years too soon. I read Sir Clive once owned a Bond Bug, hence the similarity of the shape.

  • @andyarmstrong1493
    @andyarmstrong1493 2 года назад +1

    You and Matt should have a race!

  • @iivaridark6850
    @iivaridark6850 2 года назад

    Nice!
    And, I couldn't believe it - it is snowing here while I watched this video and when I looked closely, it looked like it is snowing at Your place too! Best Regards from Finland!

  • @Mortimer50145
    @Mortimer50145 2 года назад

    OK, Steph, next vehicle to road test is a Segway! They are great fun once you get the hang of balancing. I hired one in La Corunna (Spain) where it is legal to ride them on cycle tracks and on (quiet) roads around town. But the killjoys in the UK won't allow them to be used *anywhere* in public - neither on a cycle track nor a road.

  • @lucythemoggy1970
    @lucythemoggy1970 2 года назад

    love the green outfit steph! reminds me of a certain 70's british leyland hue

  • @trevorlack6565
    @trevorlack6565 2 года назад

    I was 14 at its launch and really desperately wanted one especially after you could pick them up for less than £200 shortly after launch. Sir Clive was a brave man who brought computers to the masses and hoped he could do the same with the C5

  • @TheClockwise770
    @TheClockwise770 2 года назад

    Well done for sharing this remarkable little car with us Steph. I wouldn't attempt to fdr one even if paying

  • @allanmollison6971
    @allanmollison6971 2 года назад +1

    When I first saw that thing. I thought it was a large waterblaster. 😆👏

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L 2 года назад

    I always wondered if they’d started with the planned high-end full-size car models rather than starting with the low-end electric bike whether they’d have had a different fortune. Even a few niche sales of the high-end model might’ve been enough to keep it going financially?

  • @johnjtm1097
    @johnjtm1097 2 года назад

    An unusual one there Steph. I must say I was pleasently surprised to see this on the channel.

  • @gazp2194
    @gazp2194 2 года назад +1

    Wow, you certainly vary your content Steph. Please never change.

  • @OXOtwo
    @OXOtwo 2 года назад

    Certainly didn't expect to see that !

  • @davidmartin6735
    @davidmartin6735 2 года назад +1

    Thank U for this Wonderful Impulsive review 😍 .. I think, 😉 the C5 is the 4runner to the EVs that are available now .. .. however I am sticking with my Issigonis babies and thank U for making me Smile this morning. Take Care and Stay Safe.

    • @lasskinn474
      @lasskinn474 2 года назад +1

      Its a forerunner to mobility scooters except its unfriendly to the disabled.

  • @Tawny6702
    @Tawny6702 2 года назад

    I actually saw one of these in use around 1986 in Leeds and the guy was wearing a suit going round city square, and in the age of the Yuppie it didn’t look that out of place! Clive Sinclair was certainly a visionary and sadly i think way ahead of his time by about 20 years!

  • @argonaut6386
    @argonaut6386 2 года назад

    Blimey....I remember my classmates at primary school talking about these as one of them was talking about getting one. I remember them being featured on John Craven's Newsround and everyone was extremely concerned about the safety of using one. It was only battery technology at the time that stopped him making something smaller like today's ebike or scooter.....and to think he was laughed at back then. Total genius in my eyes.

  • @tomdodds3876
    @tomdodds3876 2 года назад

    A few mods starting from basic chassis /revision and some charging development would likely
    make this a solid urban runabout. Quality effort and video as always .

  • @edwardgwatterson1618
    @edwardgwatterson1618 2 года назад +7

    Got to credit whoever used one of these with huge courage, Todays Lorrys wouldn't even spot it even with the flag up. Well done again Steph for bringing the weird and wonderful to the channel

  • @carstenweiland7896
    @carstenweiland7896 2 года назад

    There is even a picture with young Ayrton Senna driving it in a JPS style. Awesome strange thing.

  • @philtaylor9038
    @philtaylor9038 2 года назад

    Short & Sweet Steph, just like the video ha,ha. I remember the first time I saw a C5 it was passing a double-decker bus picking up passengers. Driver would never of seen it had he pulled out was smaller than bus wheels.

  • @robsterbob580
    @robsterbob580 2 года назад

    I seem to remember at the time Sinclair's plan was to launch the C10 and later the C15, which were bigger electric vehicles that were more like proper small cars.

  • @knifetrain3118
    @knifetrain3118 2 года назад

    It looked like Steph was giving a friendly wave to other people on the road but I think it was more of "I'm down here please don't' flatten me" !!!

  • @peterriggall8409
    @peterriggall8409 2 года назад

    Good one Steph. but I think I would prefer that MG ADO16 I saw on the road. 😍

  • @manofthehour6856
    @manofthehour6856 2 года назад

    When I first saw this, I questioned it's presence here, but of course Sinclair was a well-known eighties icon, and it demonstrates how something from nearly 40 years ago shows the early thoughts regarding contemporary travel. And yes, well said when you say you were aware of your own mortality in this. This would be undriveable in the USA where people would either not see you from 8 feet off the ground in a lifted pickup, or distracted by handheld mobile phone / texting (illegal, but common), or just general indifference to other vehicles on the road. I can certainly see the concern just among the "small" vintage British cars like the white 1100.

  • @PaulinesPastimes
    @PaulinesPastimes 2 года назад

    Good on you for trying it, particularly in the cold and rain. As an invention, very close, but no cigar. It's great that they exist though and top marks to the late, great Sir Clive Sinclair for the forward thinking. ✔

  • @arunchakkaravarthi9554
    @arunchakkaravarthi9554 2 года назад

    I am in India...my language Tamil but i regular watching ur video...mam...

  • @Darwinion
    @Darwinion Год назад

    The biggest drawback is how vulnerable most will feel. So low down like a recumbent cycle. Hardly any cyclist chooses one of those, so there you have it. Other than that, as you say, with decent modern batteries it could be improved a lot. I did consider one to upgrade and take to car shows where I could chuck it in the back of a van or estate. Never did it though.

  • @MGBetts1
    @MGBetts1 2 года назад

    Nice MG 1100/1300 in the film. 👍🏻 Anyway, I'm glad a few of these C5s have been saved, they're part of automobile history and the development of the electric car!

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc 2 года назад +1

    The idea behind the handle bar position was your hands would naturally fall there when seated. Making it less tiring to steer. The electric motor was serviceable by Hoover (I believe). If it hadn't been the 80's with the expectation of what would happen to the C5 in traffic, it could have succeeded.

    • @CaseyJonesNumber1
      @CaseyJonesNumber1 2 года назад +1

      I think the electric motors were actually made by Hoover.

    • @Markycarandbikestuff
      @Markycarandbikestuff 2 года назад +2

      It's basically a recumbent bicycle with bodywork and electric assist.

    • @ptonpc
      @ptonpc 2 года назад

      @@CaseyJonesNumber1 I think so :) I remember a big part of the marketing was how simple the servicing and repairs were.

  • @JessShanahan
    @JessShanahan 2 года назад

    This is the crossover we should’ve made together! 😃

  • @tonygiraldes7848
    @tonygiraldes7848 2 года назад

    You’re one brave person 😊 I wouldn’t enjoy taking this out into traffic one bit!
    Just the greatest channel 😊❤️

  • @georgegaming1182
    @georgegaming1182 2 года назад

    I want one it looks so cool

  • @p24hrsmith
    @p24hrsmith 2 года назад

    I think the biggest cause of it's failure was the steering under the legs it was a step out the box to far

  • @chrispenn715
    @chrispenn715 2 года назад

    Good fun! Must say that white Honda Key car (4min24) looks much more exciting tho! 🙂

  • @drwho534
    @drwho534 2 года назад

    As usual Steph surprises us with something completely different and Steph is looking fab!

  • @iana6713
    @iana6713 2 года назад

    I have always wanted a shot of one of these! Brave of you to go on the road with it, but it looks like you had fun nonetheless... Way, way ahead of its time in some ways, and I am a little jealous of the young man who bought it!

  • @alansharp1528
    @alansharp1528 2 года назад

    Another great vid Steph. Well done for accepting the challenge of a C5. You are more suited to a Bentley for sure.😎

  • @manfacilitymetalworks1296
    @manfacilitymetalworks1296 2 года назад

    These things were awesome but were 35 years too early. Launch them now and they would sell well.

  • @bladesofdestruction5405
    @bladesofdestruction5405 2 года назад

    Will you make also videos of classic oldtimer motorcycles?

  • @briforks7681
    @briforks7681 2 года назад +1

    Was terrible how media turned against him,ok the C5 and zike weren't successes but he tried to help the environment decades before it became fashionable instead of doing the easy thing and buying land and sitting on it till a supermarket or developer wanted it like some of his contemporaries did.

    • @Markycarandbikestuff
      @Markycarandbikestuff 2 года назад +2

      Even more terrible how Sir Alan Sugar bought his company for peanuts and left him with nothing, Sir Clive was a very clever man but not good at business.

  • @georgeratcliffe7752
    @georgeratcliffe7752 2 года назад

    Yes yes yes yes,
    Great video, I have been waiting for this,
    Thank you

  • @keviemac
    @keviemac 2 года назад

    Check out the "Cautionary Tales with Tim Hartford" pod cast. he does a great run down on the story of the Sinclair C5.

  • @ScubaSteveM45
    @ScubaSteveM45 2 года назад

    Why did they make this an open vehicle without at least a roof cap or even a windshield given all the rain in the UK?

  • @CarputingYT
    @CarputingYT 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video!

  • @johnhiggin7424
    @johnhiggin7424 2 года назад

    There's a blast from the past. I remember when they came out as you rightly said they were supposed to be the future but bombed. OMG they look vulnerable you're a brave lady, I'd have definitely stayed in the car park!! Well done 👏

  • @jurivlk5433
    @jurivlk5433 2 года назад

    I love these weird vehicles! I'm not sure I would dare to drive a Sinclair C5 on a road or even a city street!

  • @michaeltutty1540
    @michaeltutty1540 2 года назад

    Definitely an oddball. The first time I heard of these was when Matt at Furious Driving bought one and had it on his channel. Strange wee beastie, but definitely fun!

  • @michaelhalsall5684
    @michaelhalsall5684 2 года назад

    Always something different getting revued each week! So different to the Bentley reviewed recently!

  • @lrs3
    @lrs3 2 года назад

    Would love a C5

  • @plunkervillerr1529
    @plunkervillerr1529 2 года назад

    I like your jacket it`s very colorful .

  • @jonnycando
    @jonnycando 2 года назад

    I wonder what Sir Clive thought folks would do when the weather was….British…..or possibly one needed a ton of groceries?

    • @tdp2612
      @tdp2612 2 года назад

      Wear the official C5 poncho and install the side panels. Have a google of them, you couldn't look any sillier while wearing them. Also very rare now and worth some real money

  • @kjeldlarsen912
    @kjeldlarsen912 2 года назад

    Thx

  • @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain
    @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain 2 года назад

    Love it Steph, I have these on my watch list on eBay just in case one comes up at a reasonable price!

  • @fruitychink
    @fruitychink 2 года назад

    What a fascinating review . Brilliant

  • @theoriginaljc-j
    @theoriginaljc-j 2 года назад

    Couldn't get a bigger contrast against the Bentley you tried last week with the C5. Still think the Bentley suits you, but ultimately the Rolls-Royce 😉

  • @Saskue78
    @Saskue78 2 года назад

    Interesting but possibly the most dangerous to use compared to the other stuff you have on the channel. Cool video. 🙂

  • @MrPlanetman
    @MrPlanetman 2 года назад

    Love it!

  • @stephenricketts7764
    @stephenricketts7764 2 года назад

    I think it was ahead of its time. I also think that if lithium batteries were available back then it could have been a best seller for light recreation. Sir Clive was always an adventure and he did acknowledge that he made some mistakes. He wasn't pretentious in any way quite humble I would say, so RIP Sir Clive Sinclair. I saw somewhere that these have a club or at least an advisory group not that there is much to go wrong, just change the brushes every so often and you are good to go! Thanks Steph for bringing us a snippet of UK history which some would prefer to forget. 👍👍

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 6 месяцев назад

    Was invented in England and yet has no roof or any rain protection

  • @philipdavis5572
    @philipdavis5572 2 года назад

    You're brave

  • @prep0wer
    @prep0wer 2 года назад +1

    These types of cars only need decent roads.

  • @edwardsp1916
    @edwardsp1916 2 года назад

    Lovely stuff!

  • @MartysWhiteSuit
    @MartysWhiteSuit 2 года назад

    I wish I'd been there to give you a wave.

  • @paullacey2999
    @paullacey2999 2 года назад

    Make it a little bigger you could sell it today!Sir Clive was decades ahead of the curve.....Imagine if he had a foresighted government give him some help to build these instead of a dodgy DeLorean....

  • @neilsradios
    @neilsradios 2 года назад

    Sinclair was a legend, for many years I dismissed him as an "ideas man" who couldn't deliver, but in retrospect he was better than that. I still like reading his early books like this one :
    worldradiohistory.com/BOOKSHELF-ARH/Author-Groups/Clive-Sinclair/Practical-Transitor-Receiver-Book-1-Bernard-148-Clive-Sinclair.pdf
    And this is an excellent docudrama: ruclips.net/video/XXBxV6-zamM/видео.html . But on the car itself, I salute your courage in driving it, even for that short distance, on a public road :-)

  • @robertlloyd7493
    @robertlloyd7493 2 года назад

    Well done....more nerve than me!

  • @tristanpage6805
    @tristanpage6805 2 года назад

    Dangerous, slow, impractical. Do I want one still? YES

  • @pennywood9676
    @pennywood9676 2 года назад

    Trolls Royce silver shadow

  • @adeh503
    @adeh503 2 года назад

    😂😂😂 you were definitely enjoying that Steph

  • @markc1921
    @markc1921 2 года назад

    I think the Bentley suited you better. 😃

  • @dmodeboy
    @dmodeboy 2 года назад

    Ha looked like fun!. Although driving in busy traffic in a city with buses and lorries going past possibly wouldn't be...the look on your face might be different! A quirky invention, with a few flaws 🤣

    • @johnf3326
      @johnf3326 2 года назад

      In theory great, in practise a no-go

  • @dcarbs2979
    @dcarbs2979 2 года назад

    Sinclair was an engineering and conceptual genius but terrible at marketing. As a product, the C5 is great and has it's place. If was marketed as a toy (much like a Segway was in later years), rather than the future of urban transport, it would have been seen and remembered in a better light. It may even have sold for long than just 1 year that it was.

  • @richardharrold9736
    @richardharrold9736 2 года назад

    I can't look at this without hearing the song Richard Stilgoe and the late Peter Skellern did satirising it. It was a terrible idea to start with and the design and execution were even worse.