I was wrong about Benny the Butcher: "Tana Talk" 4 review

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • It took me a couple listens to understand what he was doing with this one. ‪@bennythebutcher9863‬ ‪@GriseldaRecords‬
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Комментарии • 110

  • @manutrovao9530
    @manutrovao9530 2 года назад +89

    im almost shure that tana talk 1 and 2 were made in the mid 2000s, before benny went to jail, but tana talk 3 was released in 2018, and ngl I think its a modern classic and the best griselda album ever. the stories he tells there are so detailed, raw and remorseful, and the beats are really menacing and heavy, like you feel that theres a literal butcher coming for you. its amazing

    • @karimd88
      @karimd88 2 года назад +7

      Completely agree, it is the absolute perfect embodiment of Griselda

    • @MightyScruffy
      @MightyScruffy 2 года назад +2

      Preach! 👏🏾👏🏾 My exact thoughts about tana talk 3. And 'Who are you' with Royce is one of my favourite songs of the decade.

    • @Jimmy1982Playlists
      @Jimmy1982Playlists 2 года назад +1

      Absolutely. That was the second GxFR album I got into, after Westside's _Supreme Blientele_ put me on to the whole crew... followed quickly by Conway's _Grimiest Of All Time_ - arguably the best project from each artist, imo. It's no wonder they've dominated my rotation ever since. My personal favorite Griselda project is _Blientele_ but _Tana 3_ is very close.

    • @riqgeez8776
      @riqgeez8776 2 года назад

      TANA Talk 1 04', and TANA Talk 2 09' it's been a long 19yr run my favorite rapper under 40yrs old but I'm the same age as Hip-hop 48yrs old & to me Hip-hop doesn't have a age limit Jay-Z over 50yrs old and if he drops a album a month from now on Good Friday it will change the game #facts💯💯💯💯💯

    • @natethegreatreviews
      @natethegreatreviews 2 года назад +1

      Tt3 is so much better then tt4

  • @mattheweisner2938
    @mattheweisner2938 2 года назад +39

    Tana Talk 3 is a modern day Illmatic imo. I cannot praise that album enough, highly recommend you check it out. I would also recommend Butcher On Steroids from 2017, Benny himself has called it his best work!

  • @martinezjw1
    @martinezjw1 2 года назад +24

    The amazing thing about Guerrero is that Benny weaves in all these song titles from Tana Talk 3 and Burden of Proof in the rhymes, that takes skills no doubt (I'm still not sure if EVERY song from those 2 albums are mentioned, I think it might take many listens to find out 😆)

  • @MasaTheSlayer
    @MasaTheSlayer 2 года назад +31

    Tana Talk 3 is great and would be nice to see repress on vinyl.

    • @karimd88
      @karimd88 2 года назад +1

      That would be an instant cop man

  • @kogut5851
    @kogut5851 2 года назад +11

    Skye! The line you reference at 41:30 about West being the brains and Benny being the star is actually a line that Conway has said before, and Benny is saying he agrees with Conway. I think the line is originally from La Maquina.

    • @supaman432
      @supaman432 2 года назад

      You're right it was from the song 6:30 tip off from La Maquina

  • @Dodeca12
    @Dodeca12 2 года назад +4

    Professor. I'm a huge Griselda fan and I really appreciate your content. Even though you are not all the way initiated on Griselda it in no way makes your perspective any less valid or poignant. I especially love your breakdown of Billy Joe. The unpacking of the bars is so appreciated even to a hardcore fan like me.

  • @Jimmy1982Playlists
    @Jimmy1982Playlists 2 года назад +10

    Rochester has two of the best artists in this revival of classic east coast hiphop: Eto & .38 Spesh. If you haven't heard Eto & DJ Muggs _Hell's Roof,_ you gotta... after you listen to _Tana Talk 3_ & _Supreme Blientele._
    ...and maybe give us retrospective reviews of each! 😃 🙏
    Another great review, Prof!
    Can't wait for the next video, and hearing you argue for hiphop as the most important art movement in history. Been thinking of that a lot lately...

  • @aaaaaaaaaa22877u
    @aaaaaaaaaa22877u 2 года назад +8

    benny the butter!

  • @112Deniy
    @112Deniy 2 года назад +17

    Tana Talk 1 isn’t even findable anymore from how old it is and Tana Talk 2 is early early early Benny.
    Tana Talk 3 however is the best Griselda project ever and one of the most important albums in underground rap history. Genuinely the grimiest album of all time in my opinion it’s just so raw. You HAVE to get to it, Benny had some insane energy on it that’s hard to even put into words.

    • @Juline1221
      @Juline1221 2 года назад

      I'm pretty sure I saw it on datpiff Westside Gunn flyest nigga in charge is fire. Idk if it was his first mixtape but one of his first

    • @doublehsword6508
      @doublehsword6508 2 года назад

      I just wanna hear them so I can witness his progression towards today's great work.

  • @donwhite1572
    @donwhite1572 2 года назад +24

    This album is great, but it's not on the level of TT3. TT3 is an absolute classic. Every track is amazing. You could argue it's the best project ever released on the Griselda label.

    • @coleintheville117
      @coleintheville117 2 года назад +4

      In my opinion it's just as good, better production but less memorable lyricism

    • @karimd88
      @karimd88 2 года назад +2

      @@coleintheville117 Yea, had the same opinion as the OC, but this album just keeps growing on me with every listen. We should wait a little longer to make statements about albums as well lol, it has been like 2 days

    • @coleintheville117
      @coleintheville117 2 года назад

      @@karimd88 yeah I agree

    • @Swizz9
      @Swizz9 2 года назад +2

      I personally strongly disagree. In my opinion tana talk 4 easily reaches my top 10 list of all time

    • @coleintheville117
      @coleintheville117 2 года назад

      @@Swizz9 W

  • @andremackron9827
    @andremackron9827 2 года назад +6

    Tana talk 1 is a lost tape from Benny’s teen years 2001
    Tana talk 2 was a street tape he made while still in there as a local legend in like 2005-6
    Tana talk 3 was released in 2018, one of the best Griselda albums imo and the one that broke Benny to audiences. Big step, it’s when he’s fresh out the street. It’s cover is by the same artist of machinguneblack, his dead brother as a baby my first Benny record
    This one the cover is him, west and Conway as babies painted by the same guy and released while he’s famous and rich

    • @andremackron9827
      @andremackron9827 2 года назад +3

      I would really encourage listening to tana talk 3
      As for if you check out other old Griselda projects, reject 2, supreme blientele FLYGOD are essentials

    • @caiuslast
      @caiuslast 2 года назад +1

      Its not conway in the album cover its machine gun blakk and westside gunn with benny in the middle

  • @atlargeauteur
    @atlargeauteur 2 года назад +1

    Really enjoyed this review. Fentanyl is an unfortunate reality, and I'm sorry for your loss. I too have lost family and friends to Fentanyl and my heart goes out to all those affected by being poisoned by Fentanyl as well as those who suffer from drug violence, incarceration, and addiction. Since you mentioned that this is your first Tana Talk I would recommend listening to 3. Both Benny and Conway continue to amaze and set the standard for the most emotionally mature and authentic rap. The use of jux ta position on TT4 and GDMM is flawless and like you pointed out the flows are always top level. Westside is still my favorite, Guerrero- "Ayo, my dope spot got two Van Goghs in it" and he continued his trap theming from Peri Peri on HWH8 I applaud his ability to paint these pictures while using abstract flows.

  • @EayuProuxm
    @EayuProuxm 2 года назад +2

    Professor Skye and Ruff Criminal need to do a collab.
    They both my favorite music reviewers who exist on opposite sides of the review spectrum.
    Watching them combine would be amazing.

  • @rapmusicplugpod
    @rapmusicplugpod 2 года назад

    I NEED this video essay on how hip-hop is the most important artistic movement ever... can't wait!

  • @smokeythebear201
    @smokeythebear201 2 года назад

    Felt you emotion in your opening and I really enjoyed it. Appreciate your review!

  • @BCBRenny
    @BCBRenny 2 года назад +2

    Bro please listen to tana talk 3, imo I believe that TT3 is the most important album from griselda period.

  • @ComradeHB
    @ComradeHB 2 года назад +3

    Ftr I'm here because I'm a leftist and I appreciate how you "preach" and explore the politics of the rappers and how they approach political/philosophical topics in their music.

  • @ricardoediza2690
    @ricardoediza2690 2 года назад +2

    I thought the verse about the neighbor, auntie, stepdad was silly, but when you break it down like that, I was like "Damn, that's messed up."

    • @halfcuffed
      @halfcuffed 2 года назад

      This is real life for many many people. The destruction of the family / neighborhood that began with the crack era still continues.

  • @austinsmyth6448
    @austinsmyth6448 2 года назад

    Preach more, I came for some Benny content and left smarter than I started

  • @Kabullo76
    @Kabullo76 2 года назад +5

    Tana Talk 3, Flygod and Supreme blientele are the 3 best projects of Griselda in my opinion. Billie Joe beat however reminds me of Roc Marciano's Thugs prayer

    • @elliottjones8354
      @elliottjones8354 2 года назад

      idk man Grizelda Ghost gotta b top 3

    • @Kabullo76
      @Kabullo76 2 года назад +1

      @@elliottjones8354 true, I forgot about that

  • @BRANSONHOLLADAY
    @BRANSONHOLLADAY 2 года назад

    TT3 is an foundation griselda project well attest for benny as an individual artist.TT4 is absolutely on brand with production and content.

  • @Spanjop
    @Spanjop 2 года назад +2

    "They say West is the brains (uh-huh), and Benny is the star
    Conway the silliest with the bars, well, I couldn't agree more"
    He is actually quoting Conway's lines from La Maquina:
    "They say West is the brains behind it and Benny is the star
    But let's not act like Machine ain't the silliest with the bars"
    Love the album.

  • @dremant3330
    @dremant3330 2 года назад +1

    Tana Talk 3, Reject 2 and Flygod are Griselda essentials you must listen to

  • @malick4773
    @malick4773 2 года назад

    "Mr. The Butcher" LMAOO love it

  • @thorocomments
    @thorocomments 2 года назад +14

    You should definitely listen to Tana Talk 3 yesterday. Go on. Hurry up!
    FYI, you wont find Tana Talk 1. Tana Talk 2 is easy to find… but I don’t recommend it, outside of its novelty. It’s very much of it’s time…
    Edit: It’s also dope to know The Butcher is a fellow leftist. 🌹

    • @Jimmy1982Playlists
      @Jimmy1982Playlists 2 года назад +2

      I don't think he's heard _Supreme Blientele,_ either... those may just be the two greatest Griselda albums. It pains me to think any fan of their's hasn't heard either of those.
      - Another leftist fan of Benny's ✊😁

  • @MC-1177
    @MC-1177 2 года назад +2

    Back X2 means double back.

    • @Jimmy1982Playlists
      @Jimmy1982Playlists 2 года назад +3

      Was hoping somebody had left this comment. 👍
      _"...baaaaaaaack - back!"_

  • @tillzillz
    @tillzillz 2 года назад +3

    TT3 and HWH7 are the ones to listen to

  • @dynamic9016
    @dynamic9016 2 года назад

    Appreciate this analysis of TT4..

  • @ericgeneric135
    @ericgeneric135 2 года назад

    "You Diddy-d it!" 🤣 Great review. That line about not being a social worker works in context of the lines that follow it. He says no one cared or cried when he had no clothes that fit growing up, or when his addict relatives stole from him as a kid. He basically says that he became heartless because there was no one helping him growing up. Check out Tana Talk 3 if you get a chance. 👍

  • @ninjasrose1653
    @ninjasrose1653 2 года назад

    I really appreciate your deep thoughts man. But I would try and condense your reviews down a tad time wise as most of us in this modern day and age don't have 45 mins to set aside to watcha review. Maybe have a max length of 30 mins. Saying that I can talk for England, so if I were doing it. Then they'd probably be 2 hours long lol But honestly, very insightful stuff once again!

  • @mikemckenzie4016
    @mikemckenzie4016 2 года назад

    Tana Talk 3, Flygod, and Reject 2 are the crown jewels of the Griselda catalogue IMO. They are the best projects from each respective member, and if you haven't heard them yet, you are in for a treat

  • @Markblood889
    @Markblood889 2 года назад +1

    All in on the preaching!

    • @Jimmy1982Playlists
      @Jimmy1982Playlists 2 года назад

      Absolutely! Keep doing what you're doing, Prof... we're here for it.

  • @karimd88
    @karimd88 2 года назад +1

    To your point: I think the fact that he raps about dealing drugs in a glamorising way and on the next song in a way where he portraits the suffering that comes from it, can also be seen as the duality and the consequences it does bring. The fact that it definitely has its perks, but there is also another side to it. I might be giving Benny too much credit here, but I don't think so. Jay-Z used to do this a lot too, just saying it might be a conscious decision and thereby not per se undermining the album.

  • @geauxtama
    @geauxtama 2 года назад

    I hope to hear a rapper drop a Professor Skye bar sometime in the near future.
    Cilantro taste like soap. I love it as well.

  • @g-holy
    @g-holy 2 года назад +1

    Tana Talk 3 is a top 50 rap record of all-time, EASY. You kinda need to review it to take TT4 in the right context.

  • @Ritenour22
    @Ritenour22 2 года назад

    i feel like the mastered physics line is more about cooking crack my boy

  • @rondoellsworth
    @rondoellsworth 2 года назад +2

    Sammy Gravano was a Gambino...

  • @eastsidebloody
    @eastsidebloody 2 года назад

    Tana Talk 3 is a cult classic

  • @kevinreynolds3594
    @kevinreynolds3594 2 года назад +4

    Hey, I was just watching your review of Big Thief as this video dropped! I must ask you, have you heard much of Joanna Newsom? Her album ‘Have One On Me’ is one of the best albums I’ve ever heard, certainly the most poetic. I think with your interest in language you could have some fascinating insights! Anyway, have a good day

    • @Jimmy1982Playlists
      @Jimmy1982Playlists 2 года назад

      She's very talented. I first learned of her from Paul Thomas Anderson's film _Inherent Vice..._ she's plays the narrator, and friend of the protagonist. She had such presence in the role, it brought me to her beautiful music.
      One of the oddest, wackiest movies ever btw, as it's PTA adapting Thomas Pynchon - definitely takes subtitles, and 2 or 3 viewings, to decipher.

  • @thevinyltruffle
    @thevinyltruffle 2 года назад

    The only rap I listen to is underground rap, and I don’t know how in the fuck I’ve been sleeping on Griselda artists. I’m so ashamed.

  • @turbochad69
    @turbochad69 2 года назад +1

    I want that butter.

  • @stet8826
    @stet8826 2 года назад

    Tana talk 3 definitely worth checking out.

  • @bxbomber8064
    @bxbomber8064 2 года назад

    Great Review...Devil Is in the details...Benny is a wordsmith...and verbal technician.It takes an ear eith attention to details to soak up all the bars.Obviously you LISTEN in full before rendering your input...your obviously a fan.Do yourself the favor and listen to Butcher on steroids...Tt3..and the colab with him and 38 called stabed n shot...is a classic also...

  • @omnp871
    @omnp871 2 года назад

    38 Spesh has his own label Trust Music, he not in Black Soprano Family

  • @domasavpedzivin
    @domasavpedzivin 2 года назад

    *Can you review Armani Caesar "The Liz"* ❓

  • @RaBoogie1000
    @RaBoogie1000 2 года назад

    Kept it all griselda features & producers ex Cole
    Loved him 4 it
    Really loved this album
    Kinda gloomy nothing uptempo & wouldn't have it any other way

  • @domasavpedzivin
    @domasavpedzivin 2 года назад

    *Imagine a full album from Benny and Uncle Al*

  • @TheCouncilOfTheGods
    @TheCouncilOfTheGods 2 года назад

    sooooo...Prof Skye's attitude against crack rap was an inherent Len Bias...? (hah, that's a bar)

  • @adankpancake
    @adankpancake 2 года назад

    This was a good video but I think you should review the newest exociety album

  • @WheezingBobcat
    @WheezingBobcat 2 года назад

    You absolutely must review Tana Talk 3. Absolutely must. It is easily one of the most important Griselda albums, easily one of the best. That is where Benny finally solidified himself as the dude

  • @jesuswalksforyou
    @jesuswalksforyou 2 года назад

    shoutout rochester NY ;p

  • @Lo0chdali0n360
    @Lo0chdali0n360 2 года назад

    Back 2x = Back 2 times ( back, back)

  • @BigDuace
    @BigDuace 2 года назад

    I would say Tana Talk 2 thats when I knew I shouldve taken Benny more serious a long time ago

  • @GH0STS1AY3R
    @GH0STS1AY3R 2 года назад

    please for the love of god listen to light up gold and wide awake! by parquet courts

  • @coleintheville117
    @coleintheville117 2 года назад

    3 is a must listen, 1 and 2 are very old, 1 was released in 2004, I don't even know if it's available online

  • @tjtotheb
    @tjtotheb 2 года назад

    TT3 is IMO one of the greatest rap albums ever made, modern classic

  • @domasavpedzivin
    @domasavpedzivin 2 года назад

    *Conway*
    *Benny*
    *WS Gunn*
    *Armani Caesar*
    *Rome Streetz*
    *Boldy James*

  • @payforhaiti
    @payforhaiti 2 года назад

    If you could go back in time, would you major in music?

  • @thaimperial97
    @thaimperial97 2 года назад

    Benny never disappoints imo. Tana talk4 is the vibe HipHop need right now period. From the grimey street feel Griselda bring, the level of lyricism they add is necessary 💯

  • @PenpalSeff
    @PenpalSeff 2 года назад

    yo skye i really think u need to listen to TT3.... benny is very good at giving the bads and goods from his past

  • @Source9000
    @Source9000 2 года назад

    I love tana talk 4

  • @MC-1177
    @MC-1177 2 года назад

    RIP LEN BIAS

  • @hoodygod110
    @hoodygod110 2 года назад

    At least you try to understand what he's doing. If you listen to his songs he tries not to glorify it.

  • @agaagga33akacooksupbeats73
    @agaagga33akacooksupbeats73 2 года назад

    Tana talk 3 is Benny best to me

  • @cesartoro6892
    @cesartoro6892 2 года назад

    I love Benny this new album is so good can you also review iHeart Ralfy by Ralfy the plug !!

  • @Terrapin47-s8y
    @Terrapin47-s8y 2 года назад

    Tana Talk 3!

  • @thorocomments
    @thorocomments 2 года назад +3

    I’m a Harlem kid. I LOVE Diddy, and he was the best part of the song for me, too. I’ll take those downvotes.
    Also, listen to Tana Talk 3 and Burden of Proof (again) to understand the genius of Guerrero.

    • @karimd88
      @karimd88 2 года назад +1

      Yea that was a very nice touch to Guerrero and knew he sadly would miss it. Maybe he wouldn't since he did listen to BoP, but still listening to TT3 is a necessity!

  • @utahrides2903
    @utahrides2903 2 года назад

    Tana talk 3 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @fragginyt8815
    @fragginyt8815 2 года назад

    u really have to check out tana talk 3!

  • @panthersprung5161
    @panthersprung5161 2 года назад

    BRRRRR

  • @MortiferGnome
    @MortiferGnome 2 года назад

    I was with you until the Episode 1 reference. The Room (2003) has better dialogue. I reserve the right to expect better.

  • @omnp871
    @omnp871 2 года назад

    no shot you just tried to defend episode 1 there please no

  • @gayfrickinfrog7168
    @gayfrickinfrog7168 2 года назад

    Poow poow

  • @BRUMSEYBOYS
    @BRUMSEYBOYS 2 года назад

    White guy talking street music talking about what some one wants lol

    • @tomv2063
      @tomv2063 2 года назад +2

      So he’s not allowed to give he’s opinion?, he’s a music professor so I’d assume he has solid and wider range background knowledge of the topics he discusses about in his vids.

  • @TheStickyLabel
    @TheStickyLabel 2 года назад

    This white guy is disecting the alternative dialect down to a tee, whilst admitting the awe he's in by the "outsiders" struggle to survive a cruel manufactured reality

    • @tomv2063
      @tomv2063 2 года назад +3

      What?, he’s just explaining the artist’s philosophy in their music, he seems well aware of the social problems going on presented in the songs.

  • @dfwherbie8814
    @dfwherbie8814 2 года назад

    Bruh you’re ALWAYS wrong. You have bizarre opinions

  • @suckafreeyahleel
    @suckafreeyahleel 2 года назад

    Ok you want the best of Benny go to 🗣TANA TALK 3 best collection of his work