Now it's Samsung's turn. Also, my wife is wondering when the JerryReadsEverything channel will be released? (Her name idea) Us adults need soothing bedtime stories too.
Since I very rarely take a selfie I wouldn't mind it at all - they could even omit the front camera as far as I care. I realize I'm far from the typical case however.
i have tape over my camera to keep my screen protector on my phone anyway it also comes with the bonus of never having to worry about accidentally sending a bad angle selfie to someone on snapchat
I really like the idea of shifting the camera ever so slightly to take 2-4 photos and then merging them to remove the smudges we'd get from the pixels being in the way.
Putting such a small and intricate mechanics inside the phone is a recipe for disaster. Imaging what would happen with it even after a single drop? And phones are getting dropped quite often.
@@MeGaDwarf2008 They could do that in software, like Pixels started with your simple hand shaking while taking pictures and use those multi shots for improving digital zoom, remember? They should do something like that, just to improve clarity, not zoom.
that's what apple and pixel cameras already are doing. they take multiple shots and calculate a better image from the small micromovements you are doing while trying to hold it still
As much as the underdisplay camera tech is commendable, the image and video quality still looks bad enough. But this is a perfect phone for someone who hardly uses the front cam. Would love to have such a device cuz it looks gorgeous.. the all screen look is amazing... they have done a fantastic job camoflauging the camera hole.
That Intro, I had to stop and see if my eyes were ok, then I checked the upload day, and then refreshed the page after changing the resolution before realizing what was going on 🤦🏾♂️😅😂😂😂 Very nice what you did there
@@romano5785 When I do video calls, I don't care if I don't look amazing. I'm doing it with people that know me anyway. As long as they can see my expressions, see me talking, smiling at them, laughing at their jokes it's all good. This is not a beauty contest. On the other hand, having a hole in a display that I use every day pisses me off
@@romano5785 I'll be honest, I don't use my phone for video calls implying work. I do those calls on my laptop, sitting on a desk. And even if I did, I don't really care. They're coworkers. Their job is to share important informations, not look at my skin care in 4k. The Axon's soft image is decent enough. That will do.
Impressive! It's amazing how they have figured out the screen so the hole punch ain't visible anymore. I do agree that the camera doesn't look good but I would say that there's people out there that don't care about selfies and would rather have a screen like this. Looking forward to more improvements!
Its still not great, you can still see it. but dont really notice it in most apps. also the screen is prone to loss of pixles, as welll as ghost touches
This is commendable. They will nail the picture/video quality soon. That is when Apple and Samsung will copy the technology and release a wickedly masterminded version of it.
Samsung might use the rear cameras as a solution, it's been done on the Flip and Fold ultra-premium line up via an OLED panel as a rear viewfinder. A very expensive premium solution but I think it works very well!
The image quality hasn't improved, but holy heck have they hidden the sensor well. I really hope something like this becomes the norm in the US. Invisible selfie cam is probably the next big smartphone leap that I'll buy into.
Ya, I'd honestly rather they just put a freaking top bezel on phones. Then we can still have a perfect rectangle screen without holes or notches blocking it, AND we can have high quality cameras.
I don't use the front camera at all, so it wouldn't bother me. I hope other Brands come up with this tec as well. For now, i don't see any good reason to switch from my Galaxy S10. It's nice to have a headphone jack in case I need it ;)
THIS PHONE IS GOOD IN TERMS OF BUILD QUALITY. THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER VIDEO MISTER JerryRigEverything. THIS GIVES ME ANOTHER OPTION OF WHAT PHONE SHOULD I BUY.👍
ZTE nailed the ascetics of the under screen camera and now just have work on image quality. I am not a picky person when it comes to camera quality but it’s pretty bad. Since I almost never use my front camera it is just good enough for me. Can’t wait to see them improve it.
I think Jerry is on hustler mode! The phone said 6:32 AM at 7:04 😂👍 Edit: Really nice design and very innovative, espiacally in the current boring Smartphone market! 😎
Front cameras are the quintessential "survivorship" bias in phones today. It appears to the CEOs that it's used, when in reality it's only a fraction. I've seen people not even as much as touch theirs a relative's friend having broken his (from before the days of in screen visible cameras) and never fixed it. There's even businesses that offer to disable the camera all together, for privacy reasons. Such a stupid feature. Edit: also, the obvious answer is out there, it just seems that manufacturers are absolutely clueless. Point the camera body upwards, to the top of the phone. Use cut lenses to reduce thickness and as an advantage you also gain a lot of space for optical zoom. Then put a triangle prism with an optical optical blocker on either side. If it cuts light from the front, it's a main camera. If it cuts light from the back, it's a selfie camera. It's absurdly simple to pull off and all the tech involved is ancient at this point (spy cams had this decades ago, there's cameras out there that used film that are pen sized, with brackets to make the camera fit up inside the bigger pen body. So no question of size issues considering spies could take pictures that blown up took in all the information they needed. The engineers could even go three steps into 4D chess and put another prism at the other end that splits the camera duty between either two smaller but high density CMOSes or more sensors with varied packages, like basic infrared or more FLIR (brand) like features. Could even put 4 sensors in a global arrangement and have multiple angle imagery for a very dense picture.
While not the best quality, it's impressive how much the technology has improved in just 3 generations. I guess that in 2 more generations we aren't going to find any noticeable difference between photos taken with an under-display camera an a normal one... Also, in 5 years, apple is going to release their own under-display camera and say that they invented the whole concept...
Pop-up cameras were the way forward if poeple wanted all-screen phones. Its not like phone manufacturers are stuffing the phone with the headphone jack anymore.
Old phone was a OnePlus 7pro5g, the pop up was cool and took decent photos but it just added more stuff that could go wrong and was practically impossible to repair/replace and took up too much space, hole punch works perfectly fine
@@edwindungdung1998 took up too much space and more moving parts means higher chance of something going wrong if it failed you couldn’t use that camera unless you got it fixed
First ZTE was the company with the first modern flip phone, now improving under display camera's. Won't be surprised if we see other companies release better versions within the next couple years
Pretty impressive. I am waiting for years for a phone with NO front facing camera. I don't need it, I don't use it. And I certainly am not willing to accept a notch for it. So this phone is pretty cool, I can just forget that the camera even exists and don't have to be annoyed by a notch or holepunch for something I don't use. Nice work, ZTE.
My phone has a pop up camera which is also an option. You can also look at something like the asus zenfone 8 flip. It has all the bells and whistles but the front camera is actually the back camera
@@xkonstantin5 I think I'll take worse quality camera with tight water proof instead of great quality flip/popup camera with bad water proof. The amount of times I actually rinse my phone with water deliberately or accidentally is too great for me to ever consider a phone without good water proofing.
Some random person asking him when he has a mask up his face : Who're you, sir? Him : "It scratches at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7" Person : Ah. It's JerryRigEverything !
@@Unknownuserhtps I'd much rather have one of the phones that has the pop-up motorized front camera than an in-screen one. It does what the in-screen one is trying to do, and more. It hides the camera so there's no notch or hole punch in the screen, and it also uses a regular non-blurry camera so the pictures you do take with it look good. It also hides the camera and blocks the image so you can't get spied on without knowing it, lol.
@@kasper_429 you can still get spyed on regardless of if your front camera is motorized, all they have to do is make the area the motorized camera sits behind transparent But that out of the way, there are 3 cons to having a motorized camera setup 1.) Less space inside an already cramped phone, fitting in components would be more of a challenge so your sacrifice would be worse specs 2.) Durability, things such as the IP rating automatically drop down because moving parts could allow dust or water into the phone causing massive damage for people that work in dirty job sites *edit* - or the risk of the motor failing at some point in the phones lifespan 3.) Higher price, having moving parts in a phone would raise the price by a bit, making it less accessible for more people. Meaning the company might not want to sacrifice sales so they'd go for under display or normal cameras I like the look of the OnePlus 7 pro, but the idea is horrible Think about it, in 2-5 years this technology will be fully mastered and midrange phones will have it, I wouldn't want companies to take the easy way and in 2030 we are all stuck with crap motorized cameras because they didn't take risks back in 2020🤷♂️
8:12 Image softness from selfie cam is ok, image quality looks quite usable too. For those like me who rarely / don't use the selfie cam except for basic work type video calls & meetings that quality level wouldn't be a major deal. In fact I'd prefer this over the hole punch & notch pandemic that has been with smartphone design for a while now. One thing I also didn't expect like 4:46 is how good they got in hiding it while keeping it still practically usable. Really amazing for real. Maybe compared with the last gen 'pixel binning' a higher resolution 16MP front cam did the trick. Samsung must have overhead your tips to improve image quality Zack. Afterwards Apple will pay them (Samsung) a bundle to manufacture it then call it 'their best screen ever' 😁
@@panrex2451 I'm a bit disappointed how some people get their mind blown or don't believe me when I tell them their OLED iPhones (nearly all iPhones from generation 10/X onwards) are manufactured from Samsung and it's ironic when people say Samsung phones suck when their panels is smacked right in their phone.
@@QuackZack i don't think you realise that they aren't actually just buying shit off the shelf. Samsung manufactures the displays based on what instructions apple says. All Samsung does is MANUFACTURE the screens so, it's still designed by apple. It's so wrong to call it a "Samsung" screen
Same here. My front camera is for skype calls to my grandparents, and few work meetings over teams at most. So quality is good enough for me. The notch or that hole punch just ruins the screen for me. I would agree that it is a pandemic for the phones these days, as every phone has adopted it... I will consider this phone as a viable replacement for my OnePlus7 pro, as this is actually one of the very few phones without the notch or hole in the screen.
As someone who rarely use my front camera, this phone is already perfect. The invisible camera means I can use my entire screen when playing games. In terms of watching video.... I dont think there will be much difference when watching from this phone because you almost always watch all video at 16:9 ratio.
For me particularly, this phone looks amazing, because I'm not very used to take selfies, it appears for me good enough for some quick selfies for some profile pictures. Most of the time that I want a really good photo I probably would use the rear cameras. Would love to have money to buy one of these btw.
I think the front camera is one of the big misunderstandings of recent years. We can see the people who use it, to post online pictures of themselves. So it seems like it's a desired feature, but it's like a survivorship bias in that we only see the people who use it, while the wast majority probably do not. So ditching the regular front camera, for something like this might not affect sales negativity in any meaningful way. Personally I couldn't care less about front camera photos, but I do still want it for it's features of unlocking and such. This seems like a great development and I hope more brands start to migrate over to using it.
My parents never take selfies, but they do use zoom and video call quite often. My grandma even uses her front camera to video call us grandkids. A good quality front camera is actually useful for more than just selfies
I don't know if you got lighting, but I prefer 30, sure it is dark, but 40 makes it look like your glowing. So I think when they make the 50, having more of a middle ground would be the way to go (if it isn't just a lighting thing)
Looks kinda nice. And as i never use selfie camera but it is nice to have every now and then. So having it hidden without any trace on the screen is nice👍 Picture quality on it was kinda crap (as expected) but as it have good rear cameras i have no issue with it.
I can’t wait for this to be released in the UK. I don’t take pictures of myself (why?) and it reminds me of the Xiaomi Mi Mix which I ordered from China. Loved that phone.. nice bend test mate.
I'm personally someone that never uses the front facing camera on my phone so these are not really issues for me. So as far as I'm concerned getting a phone without that "annoying" notch or hole punch is a win. On the other side though I don't really feel comfortable spending more than a couple hundred bucks on a phone, so I'll stick with my Poco X3 pro for awhile longer I think.
@@graywolf2694 That is very much true, I could never see myself pay more than €300 for a phone cause at this price you basically have a phone that can do everything you want it to do
Even for a guy who rarely takes selfish but watches a TON of stuff on his phone having a tiny dot front camera on the S21 doesn't bother me enough to warrant an invisible front camera. I'll stick with the tiny dot and better camera quality.
Probably true for the vast majority of people. Even those that do the occasional video calls probably don't care enough about the quality compared to how much they care about the ugly hole punch when viewing everything else.
For me the best full screen experience it’s a pop-up camera. I know i trade waters resistance for this but for me it’s worth. My OP 7 Pro have almost 3 years and still feel like an new phone.
I think the best of all worlds is the rear camera for selfie via a rear screen viewfinder. This is the most expensive solution out of all but: 1) UPGRADES the picture quality rather than degrades, 2) doesn't compromise water resistance, 3) no moving parts or software tricks needed.
Using sensor shift stacking would be difficult to use, though using a mixture of physical sensor shifting, and electronic shifting with pixel binning might work, though it would probably only ever be for still photos, because video would require one hell of a geniva drive
It isi very much useable and heading towards the right path. Under display front cameras are the future, everybody loves a large screen panel with nothing covering it up.
I stillt hink using the main camera for everything is the best. We saw a lot of phones a few years ago with pop up or flip up cameras but with ever shrinking bezels and ever growing cameras thats not possible anymore. So if I had to guess we will see displays on the back for taking selfies.
Hey Zack, I’ve been a fan for a few years now. If there was one thing that I would like to see on your channel is a twist test. Although not as common of an accident, a similar event could occur with everyday use.
I love how they went on different way in the design copying the note 20 ultra from Samsung rather than the iPhone 12/13 design that nearly every other company is copying, very neat design
@@The_MEMEphis well they definitely can't make as good quality as the actual iPhone thus it doesn't look that much similar to the iPhone but the design language is basically the exact same (sharp edges with flat front and back) in companies like vivo,oppo, xiaomi, realme, and there are many other companies that I don't recall at the moment but you will find alot of them.
I almost never use the front facing camera for taking pictures, mostly just for video calls (doesn't really need hi-res video). The invisibility on this generation is pretty much perfect. I'd rather have a cleaner screen with lower camera quality.
This is very concerning the facts people barely talk about privacy with this stupid camera designed behind the screen, this is totally nightmare for privacy because you can't cover the camera at all. People nowadays are so stupid, they only cares about aesthetic but not thinking about privacy or functionality.
My opinion its never gonna be the same as glass when it comes to clarity it most likely will come really close to clarity of glass but since its underneath a display i feel like its not gonna be same as a camera underneath glass
Before this phone the only good full screen phone was the OnePlus 7 pro which is starting to get pretty old. I'm happy to say I just purchased this phone and I cannot wait for it to arrive. I never use my front facing camera and would much rather have a fully uninterrupted display
Jerry I think your excellent, and the axon 40 is actually a real eye catcher But what I don't get is why I can't find out much about the gorgeous Nubia z40 pro and why it's not on zte's online store, absolutely no mention of it and correct me if I'm wrong but it to is made by ZTE? Cheers Jerry and still waiting for the x5 pro to snap in half!
Now it's Samsung's turn. Also, my wife is wondering when the JerryReadsEverything channel will be released? (Her name idea) Us adults need soothing bedtime stories too.
What a good idea!
Yes we need that
Samsung won't do it until it's perfected. Probably the S24 or S25.
lmaooo that would be great
As long as there isn’t the screeching sound of a razor against metal😬🤣
Since I very rarely take a selfie I wouldn't mind it at all - they could even omit the front camera as far as I care. I realize I'm far from the typical case however.
i have tape over my camera to keep my screen protector on my phone anyway
it also comes with the bonus of never having to worry about accidentally sending a bad angle selfie to someone on snapchat
I don't think you're far from typical.
Me too, I wouldnt mind if they remove selfie camera completely
I totally agree with you! Would prefer a jack above a useless selfie camera
@@readypone Apple made a shit thing and people followed it. I’m still mad
I really like the idea of shifting the camera ever so slightly to take 2-4 photos and then merging them to remove the smudges we'd get from the pixels being in the way.
Putting such a small and intricate mechanics inside the phone is a recipe for disaster. Imaging what would happen with it even after a single drop?
And phones are getting dropped quite often.
@@MeGaDwarf2008 a lot of phones use OIS for it and that generally works just fine
@@MeGaDwarf2008 They could do that in software, like Pixels started with your simple hand shaking while taking pictures and use those multi shots for improving digital zoom, remember? They should do something like that, just to improve clarity, not zoom.
that's what apple and pixel cameras already are doing. they take multiple shots and calculate a better image from the small micromovements you are doing while trying to hold it still
@@MeGaDwarf2008
this thing already exists in many consumer cameras, it's called "pixel shift", he's not asking to invent a new technology.
0:45
When you look at the knife - this is exactly how astigmatism looks like
The explanation on holes at 5:40 is wholesome 😍
"holesome"
As much as the underdisplay camera tech is commendable, the image and video quality still looks bad enough. But this is a perfect phone for someone who hardly uses the front cam. Would love to have such a device cuz it looks gorgeous.. the all screen look is amazing... they have done a fantastic job camoflauging the camera hole.
It'll most likely evolve, phone cameras didn't start with 4k
Let's give axom time to improve ;D
@@theodorelow4487 true, underdisplay cameras are fairly new technology lets give them time
Camowhat? Isn't it camouflage? it's a french word right?
I'm one of those people who never uses the selfie camera
The earlier one looks kinda better. Too much softening on the new one..😵
Rather, it feels like it has too much sharpening applied
agreed. the 2nd gen looks better. what is going on?!
wait. i can get behind it if the screen portion is SO INVISIBLE. wow
@@itemushmush yeah.. it seems they focused more on the invisibility part this year.
People aren't necessarily buying this for it's camera quality. I would much rather have a cleaner look and garbage front camera.
This camera perfectly encapsulates the "save for web" quality lmao
Zack, I'm so glad you made a whole video for the holes! A very wholesome thing to think about all these holes 🤩
I love the quality of this video, just in a very interesting resolution for phone
That Intro, I had to stop and see if my eyes were ok, then I checked the upload day, and then refreshed the page after changing the resolution before realizing what was going on 🤦🏾♂️😅😂😂😂 Very nice what you did there
I did the exact same lmao
Lol same 😂
The improvement in hiding the camera is mind blowing!!!!
I dont take that many selfies and always have preferred the back ones anyways
Is not about selfies is about video calls
@@romano5785 I don't use video calls either , if I do, I'm usually on my PC
@@romano5785 When I do video calls, I don't care if I don't look amazing. I'm doing it with people that know me anyway. As long as they can see my expressions, see me talking, smiling at them, laughing at their jokes it's all good. This is not a beauty contest.
On the other hand, having a hole in a display that I use every day pisses me off
@@TheOxiongarden For work, looking good is important.
@@romano5785 I'll be honest, I don't use my phone for video calls implying work. I do those calls on my laptop, sitting on a desk.
And even if I did, I don't really care. They're coworkers. Their job is to share important informations, not look at my skin care in 4k. The Axon's soft image is decent enough. That will do.
3:55 that one girl we all know on Instagram 🤣
haha hilarious! I’m honestly surprised I don’t see more comments about this!
About who he is talking about?
@@impulsechannel6957 its generic. most girls uses filters for their instagram posts.
I litterally said this hidden cam idea back 4 years ago.... I am glad someone is working to achieve it
Honestly, for video, this is good enough. I couldn't actually tell it was an "undercam" till you mentioned it. This should become mainstream.
Impressive! It's amazing how they have figured out the screen so the hole punch ain't visible anymore. I do agree that the camera doesn't look good but I would say that there's people out there that don't care about selfies and would rather have a screen like this. Looking forward to more improvements!
Yes, me, either pop-up camera or this, I really don't like holes in screen... :(
Me
Its still not great, you can still see it. but dont really notice it in most apps. also the screen is prone to loss of pixles, as welll as ghost touches
@@timgoodliffe Bruh, you literally have to get it to perfect angle to see it.. Did you even watch the video?
@@timgoodliffe do you have anything credible to back up your statement? Theory or credible sources?
This is commendable. They will nail the picture/video quality soon. That is when Apple and Samsung will copy the technology and release a wickedly masterminded version of it.
Apple is good at it.
Samsung might use the rear cameras as a solution, it's been done on the Flip and Fold ultra-premium line up via an OLED panel as a rear viewfinder. A very expensive premium solution but I think it works very well!
@@QuackZack sorry, still a copied idea
The image quality hasn't improved, but holy heck have they hidden the sensor well. I really hope something like this becomes the norm in the US. Invisible selfie cam is probably the next big smartphone leap that I'll buy into.
Why US specifically?
@@AhabHyde Cuz the US is the Only country that Matters obviously 😄
@@AhabHyde Because it's the only country maybe
but would u buy it tho :)
@@AhabHyde because it's the only country that alien attack ?
Your head is shining like the razor knife with that under display camera🤣
I love what they have managed to pull off here. It's amazing to see just how well hidden all the under-screen magic is.
Ya, I'd honestly rather they just put a freaking top bezel on phones. Then we can still have a perfect rectangle screen without holes or notches blocking it, AND we can have high quality cameras.
I don't use the front camera at all, so it wouldn't bother me. I hope other Brands come up with this tec as well. For now, i don't see any good reason to switch from my Galaxy S10. It's nice to have a headphone jack in case I need it ;)
Same, but I'm currently rocking a note 20 ultra
Yeah tbh I'd get a phone with an under screen camera. I don't use the front camera often
😂 me trying to turn up my pic quality
😭😭i felt this
Pop-up selfies is still the way to go for me because of the full privacy when it's off and will very much be obvious when it got secretly used.
Yup. That privacy thing is hella nice.
I got one of the last pop up camera phones that came on the market, it still is a nice party trick haha
Honestly the best type of front cameras, its cool and it gives a full display.
Still got my 3 year old mi9tpro
Front pop up cam still good
I still have my OnePlus 7 pro. I love this fucking phone.
3:55 the yassification of jerryrigeverything
THIS PHONE IS GOOD IN TERMS OF BUILD QUALITY. THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER VIDEO MISTER JerryRigEverything.
THIS GIVES ME ANOTHER OPTION OF WHAT PHONE SHOULD I BUY.👍
Wait the older one looks better! Uh oh
I can freely trade the image quality with the screen. Looks amazing. Am in for an order
The most beautiful smartphone to ever exist, notch is such a disgrace in 2022.
I Like Notch Though
You Aren't The Only Human
Wouldn't sacrifice camera quality for slightly more display thou
@@GaryGaryGaga Just buy a phone with bezels?
ZTE nailed the ascetics of the under screen camera and now just have work on image quality. I am not a picky person when it comes to camera quality but it’s pretty bad. Since I almost never use my front camera it is just good enough for me. Can’t wait to see them improve it.
I think Jerry is on hustler mode! The phone said 6:32 AM at 7:04 😂👍 Edit: Really nice design and very innovative, espiacally in the current boring Smartphone market! 😎
Thought the same too with the slightly lengthy sponsor plug's! - but it's ok - Linus of Linus tech tips would be proud.
Front cameras are the quintessential "survivorship" bias in phones today. It appears to the CEOs that it's used, when in reality it's only a fraction. I've seen people not even as much as touch theirs a relative's friend having broken his (from before the days of in screen visible cameras) and never fixed it. There's even businesses that offer to disable the camera all together, for privacy reasons. Such a stupid feature.
Edit: also, the obvious answer is out there, it just seems that manufacturers are absolutely clueless. Point the camera body upwards, to the top of the phone. Use cut lenses to reduce thickness and as an advantage you also gain a lot of space for optical zoom. Then put a triangle prism with an optical optical blocker on either side. If it cuts light from the front, it's a main camera. If it cuts light from the back, it's a selfie camera. It's absurdly simple to pull off and all the tech involved is ancient at this point (spy cams had this decades ago, there's cameras out there that used film that are pen sized, with brackets to make the camera fit up inside the bigger pen body. So no question of size issues considering spies could take pictures that blown up took in all the information they needed.
The engineers could even go three steps into 4D chess and put another prism at the other end that splits the camera duty between either two smaller but high density CMOSes or more sensors with varied packages, like basic infrared or more FLIR (brand) like features. Could even put 4 sensors in a global arrangement and have multiple angle imagery for a very dense picture.
Cost of R&D and then software development for it probably outweighs using your option versus this half baked options we get from Samsung and co
While not the best quality, it's impressive how much the technology has improved in just 3 generations. I guess that in 2 more generations we aren't going to find any noticeable difference between photos taken with an under-display camera an a normal one...
Also, in 5 years, apple is going to release their own under-display camera and say that they invented the whole concept...
... and the crowd will go wild.
@@TheCrazyhumans iSheep be like 😲😲😲👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Legend says that Apple invented 120hz display in 2022😂
Always one person that can't keep Apple out of their mouth lol
@@superiortoall22 well they do say it keeps the doctor away
I barely use the front facing camera, so i don't mind the quality being worse than normal, reason i wish the pop up cameras lived for longer
Pop-up cameras were the way forward if poeple wanted all-screen phones. Its not like phone manufacturers are stuffing the phone with the headphone jack anymore.
Still holding strong on my Xiaomi 9T Pro and I really don't want to switch away from it.
@@edwindungdung1998 the mechanism took a lot of space inside the phone
Old phone was a OnePlus 7pro5g, the pop up was cool and took decent photos but it just added more stuff that could go wrong and was practically impossible to repair/replace and took up too much space, hole punch works perfectly fine
@@edwindungdung1998 took up too much space and more moving parts means higher chance of something going wrong if it failed you couldn’t use that camera unless you got it fixed
Lookin amazing congratulations ZTE.
Just put up a mirror on the back and no need for a front camera. Just use the back camera for selfies 😂
I hate the hole punch cameras but I don't think I'd sacrifice quality for a full display; even though I rarely use it, there is still times where I do
There is room to put the camera above the screen they just don't want to
@@fl1ntlock1 you meant that 1mm bezel on top?
@@fl1ntlock1 Yeah I'm still using my s9+ lol
And that is exactly why I went with a Xiaomi Mi9T a few years ago. Still works perfectly and a pop-up camera is still the best option in my opinion.
At first I thought a hole punch would bother me but after using my Poco X3 Pro for months, now a year I barely cared. It just, doesn't exist!
First ZTE was the company with the first modern flip phone, now improving under display camera's. Won't be surprised if we see other companies release better versions within the next couple years
same with oppo, first with quad core cpu, first with fhd display, rotation cam, 4000mah batterie etc, they are always first and the best 🤘🏻
Already has a alternative version, the mix 4 has one.
Pretty impressive. I am waiting for years for a phone with NO front facing camera. I don't need it, I don't use it. And I certainly am not willing to accept a notch for it. So this phone is pretty cool, I can just forget that the camera even exists and don't have to be annoyed by a notch or holepunch for something I don't use. Nice work, ZTE.
What phone do you use then now?
honor 9x...
My phone has a pop up camera which is also an option. You can also look at something like the asus zenfone 8 flip. It has all the bells and whistles but the front camera is actually the back camera
@@xkonstantin5 I think I'll take worse quality camera with tight water proof instead of great quality flip/popup camera with bad water proof. The amount of times I actually rinse my phone with water deliberately or accidentally is too great for me to ever consider a phone without good water proofing.
What about the slow charging Iphone? They still big bezels fugly notch.
THIS is innovation, the image quality may suck but you cant see *anything* on the display
That knife on side/bottom of phone noise will never fail to make me grima
The previous version image quality actually looks better.
0:01 i thought I was watching at 144p.😂
the best were pop up camera, you got the full front display and a good quality camera. Don't know why they didn't stick around
I just love this phone because it's display is just impressive , and now i am using resmi k20 pro it's display is also just impressive .
Some random person asking him when he has a mask up his face : Who're you, sir?
Him : "It scratches at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7"
Person : Ah. It's JerryRigEverything !
Sorry but the old one looks better quality-wise.
2:43 They just pack the leftovers 😂😂😂
I would gladly trade the blurry selfie for the amazing screen if I could afford it
Just wait for them to show up on ebay
@Backroad Runners why? With this method you're getting fullscreen and a camera
Yes it's bad but it'll do its job for a facetime call or something 🤷♂️
@Backroad Runners then get an iPhone
@@Unknownuserhtps I'd much rather have one of the phones that has the pop-up motorized front camera than an in-screen one. It does what the in-screen one is trying to do, and more. It hides the camera so there's no notch or hole punch in the screen, and it also uses a regular non-blurry camera so the pictures you do take with it look good. It also hides the camera and blocks the image so you can't get spied on without knowing it, lol.
@@kasper_429 you can still get spyed on regardless of if your front camera is motorized, all they have to do is make the area the motorized camera sits behind transparent
But that out of the way, there are 3 cons to having a motorized camera setup
1.) Less space inside an already cramped phone, fitting in components would be more of a challenge so your sacrifice would be worse specs
2.) Durability, things such as the IP rating automatically drop down because moving parts could allow dust or water into the phone causing massive damage for people that work in dirty job sites *edit* - or the risk of the motor failing at some point in the phones lifespan
3.) Higher price, having moving parts in a phone would raise the price by a bit, making it less accessible for more people. Meaning the company might not want to sacrifice sales so they'd go for under display or normal cameras
I like the look of the OnePlus 7 pro, but the idea is horrible
Think about it, in 2-5 years this technology will be fully mastered and midrange phones will have it, I wouldn't want companies to take the easy way and in 2030 we are all stuck with crap motorized cameras because they didn't take risks back in 2020🤷♂️
that pop up camera was way better then indisplay
And a new Chanel Jerry-speaks everrything...!
The old one looks better not to be mean
8:12 Image softness from selfie cam is ok, image quality looks quite usable too.
For those like me who rarely / don't use the selfie cam except for basic work type video calls & meetings that quality level wouldn't be a major deal.
In fact I'd prefer this over the hole punch & notch pandemic that has been with smartphone design for a while now.
One thing I also didn't expect like 4:46 is how good they got in hiding it while keeping it still practically usable. Really amazing for real. Maybe compared with the last gen 'pixel binning' a higher resolution 16MP front cam did the trick.
Samsung must have overhead your tips to improve image quality Zack. Afterwards Apple will pay them (Samsung) a bundle to manufacture it then call it 'their best screen ever' 😁
apple doesnt ever say it's their screen since samsung makes them
@@panrex2451 I'm a bit disappointed how some people get their mind blown or don't believe me when I tell them their OLED iPhones (nearly all iPhones from generation 10/X onwards) are manufactured from Samsung and it's ironic when people say Samsung phones suck when their panels is smacked right in their phone.
@@QuackZack i don't think you realise that they aren't actually just buying shit off the shelf. Samsung manufactures the displays based on what instructions apple says. All Samsung does is MANUFACTURE the screens so, it's still designed by apple. It's so wrong to call it a "Samsung" screen
Same here. My front camera is for skype calls to my grandparents, and few work meetings over teams at most. So quality is good enough for me. The notch or that hole punch just ruins the screen for me. I would agree that it is a pandemic for the phones these days, as every phone has adopted it...
I will consider this phone as a viable replacement for my OnePlus7 pro, as this is actually one of the very few phones without the notch or hole in the screen.
5:45 That's what she said
30 looks so much better idk why
I was rubbing my eyes , checking what's wrong with my eyes for 2 minutes into the video 🤣🤣 , until the intro
As someone who rarely use my front camera, this phone is already perfect. The invisible camera means I can use my entire screen when playing games. In terms of watching video.... I dont think there will be much difference when watching from this phone because you almost always watch all video at 16:9 ratio.
Every year ZTE just spits out a note clone, without the S pen 😂
For me particularly, this phone looks amazing, because I'm not very used to take selfies, it appears for me good enough for some quick selfies for some profile pictures. Most of the time that I want a really good photo I probably would use the rear cameras. Would love to have money to buy one of these btw.
Mermaid Man would be proud of that invisible camera.
That's great. I don't really use the front camera anyways and I HATE the hole punch cameras.
I think the front camera is one of the big misunderstandings of recent years. We can see the people who use it, to post online pictures of themselves. So it seems like it's a desired feature, but it's like a survivorship bias in that we only see the people who use it, while the wast majority probably do not.
So ditching the regular front camera, for something like this might not affect sales negativity in any meaningful way.
Personally I couldn't care less about front camera photos, but I do still want it for it's features of unlocking and such.
This seems like a great development and I hope more brands start to migrate over to using it.
My parents never take selfies, but they do use zoom and video call quite often. My grandma even uses her front camera to video call us grandkids. A good quality front camera is actually useful for more than just selfies
@@jeffgayzose8129 Hmm, a good to have function but not really necessary for many 🤔
I don't know if you got lighting, but I prefer 30, sure it is dark, but 40 makes it look like your glowing. So I think when they make the 50, having more of a middle ground would be the way to go (if it isn't just a lighting thing)
@@nobodylmportant that's a good point
If you look at the knife at the start of the ad (0:46) you can see there's definitely some image doubling I don't think it's the lighting
In the beginning I thought to myself "why the hell is jerry having that high saturation?"
How would the screen protectors work over the camera? Usually there is a cut on it over the camera, even if the screen is going over it
Several years later: APPLE INNOVATION - INVISIBLE FRONT CAMERA
Looks kinda nice.
And as i never use selfie camera but it is nice to have every now and then.
So having it hidden without any trace on the screen is nice👍
Picture quality on it was kinda crap (as expected) but as it have good rear cameras i have no issue with it.
Leaving the front camera aside can we admire the beautiful design of this phone.
Wow this camera looks like such throwback to the days we had VGA cameras on flipphones
Still got my Sagem flip, the size of a matchbox.
Me: dying to get a new phone
Jerry: scratching the new phone.... Bending the phone
seriously this is scary, hidden ffc right now its so good that we dont know if our phone secretly monitoring us
I can’t wait for this to be released in the UK. I don’t take pictures of myself (why?) and it reminds me of the Xiaomi Mi Mix which I ordered from China. Loved that phone.. nice bend test mate.
I'm personally someone that never uses the front facing camera on my phone so these are not really issues for me.
So as far as I'm concerned getting a phone without that "annoying" notch or hole punch is a win.
On the other side though I don't really feel comfortable spending more than a couple hundred bucks on a phone, so I'll stick with my Poco X3 pro for awhile longer I think.
Funny thing is we now pay more for a feature we never use.
@@graywolf2694 That is very much true, I could never see myself pay more than €300 for a phone cause at this price you basically have a phone that can do everything you want it to do
Even for a guy who rarely takes selfish but watches a TON of stuff on his phone having a tiny dot front camera on the S21 doesn't bother me enough to warrant an invisible front camera. I'll stick with the tiny dot and better camera quality.
_Much_ better camera quality*
Same here
It bothers me quite a lot actually. I'll stick with no notch/hole punch and better camera quality.
I like the ending part of testing bending 🤗😅 when u start to say nw it's time for bending test 😎👏
I rarely use a front facing camera, so getting the screen real estate back is way more important to me than image quality.
Probably true for the vast majority of people. Even those that do the occasional video calls probably don't care enough about the quality compared to how much they care about the ugly hole punch when viewing everything else.
@@zxbc1 If they offered versions of phones without a FF camera, I would totally pick that.
Instead of hiding the hole punch camera that takes bad pics, why not make the entire front screen a camera lens, problem solved.
Why
Huh?
For me the best full screen experience it’s a pop-up camera. I know i trade waters resistance for this but for me it’s worth. My OP 7 Pro have almost 3 years and still feel like an new phone.
I think the best of all worlds is the rear camera for selfie via a rear screen viewfinder. This is the most expensive solution out of all but: 1) UPGRADES the picture quality rather than degrades, 2) doesn't compromise water resistance, 3) no moving parts or software tricks needed.
@@QuackZack for photos and videos yes, you are right but what about video calling? :)
Using sensor shift stacking would be difficult to use, though using a mixture of physical sensor shifting, and electronic shifting with pixel binning might work, though it would probably only ever be for still photos, because video would require one hell of a geniva drive
It isi very much useable and heading towards the right path. Under display front cameras are the future, everybody loves a large screen panel with nothing covering it up.
I stillt hink using the main camera for everything is the best. We saw a lot of phones a few years ago with pop up or flip up cameras but with ever shrinking bezels and ever growing cameras thats not possible anymore. So if I had to guess we will see displays on the back for taking selfies.
0:15 Huge improvements over last year. Literally filters sky blue 💙 to red ❤️
Blue to Red
I think they added a litmus paper
And for a second I was wondering why you're using a beauty filter 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
Hey Zack, I’ve been a fan for a few years now. If there was one thing that I would like to see on your channel is a twist test. Although not as common of an accident, a similar event could occur with everyday use.
Can you try the flame on the general area where the front camera is placed and see how the photo's turn up?
This guy gave the answer to the softness issues omg. They should pay you for what you said.
I love how they went on different way in the design copying the note 20 ultra from Samsung rather than the iPhone 12/13 design that nearly every other company is copying, very neat design
Yeah note 20 design is more industrial looking, more of a tool than most rounded of screen corners making them look like toy
What companies are coping the iPhone design I feel like most phones look more like Samsung
@@The_MEMEphis well they definitely can't make as good quality as the actual iPhone thus it doesn't look that much similar to the iPhone but the design language is basically the exact same (sharp edges with flat front and back) in companies like vivo,oppo, xiaomi, realme, and there are many other companies that I don't recall at the moment but you will find alot of them.
@@gamech9866 very few phones have flat sides and screen combo with flat back, the new nothing phone is pretty much the only one
Yeah, the XZ Premium design was ahead of its time.
I almost never use the front facing camera for taking pictures, mostly just for video calls (doesn't really need hi-res video). The invisibility on this generation is pretty much perfect. I'd rather have a cleaner screen with lower camera quality.
Gotta be honest tho I'd be a bit ashamed when popping into a video call with that kinda quality... :/
@@samskleibrok2023 Same here. Wish bezels would make a comeback, they were never a problem to begin with.
I almostnever use the self camera, so this screen is great to me.
Video from that camera looks like a TV show from the 90s.
camera looks like what your eye will be after bully maguire put's some dirt in your eye
Here is an idea, use 2 cameras under the display and merge them to make better quality.
This is very concerning the facts people barely talk about privacy with this stupid camera designed behind the screen, this is totally nightmare for privacy because you can't cover the camera at all. People nowadays are so stupid, they only cares about aesthetic but not thinking about privacy or functionality.
Figured out one thing
1080p: Jerry
480p: Hitman
My opinion its never gonna be the same as glass when it comes to clarity it most likely will come really close to clarity of glass but since its underneath a display i feel like its not gonna be same as a camera underneath glass
Before this phone the only good full screen phone was the OnePlus 7 pro which is starting to get pretty old. I'm happy to say I just purchased this phone and I cannot wait for it to arrive. I never use my front facing camera and would much rather have a fully uninterrupted display
The day Zack will upgrade his phone, I'm gonna shave my head bald.
By the way, the smartphone is cool and very beautiful according to the design.
Invisible under screen camera is cool and scary at same time! Wait for technology to be so commom that it is misused in hotel rooms.
I think maybe the guys down at McMurdo Station need to have a few knives shipped to them.
Jerry I think your excellent, and the axon 40 is actually a real eye catcher
But what I don't get is why I can't find out much about the gorgeous Nubia z40 pro and why it's not on zte's online store, absolutely no mention of it and correct me if I'm wrong but it to is made by ZTE? Cheers Jerry and still waiting for the x5 pro to snap in half!