You know you got your ass beat when you think you almost won. I don’t even blame Cane honestly that was sinister. Having him run like HE was a survivor.
@@ironcane i just thought about it but voice lines might be the play at level 1 to keep people from hearing you moving around and about, as well as jumping to avoid being identified by footsteps ain't gonna work too much on premades tho, still a fun idea.
@@Thatguyyoudontknow594 You know what would actually suck imagine if Season 7 those changes especially Dodges don't get reverted but of course now after finally realizing the actual problems decides to do 2 things 1. Reduce the Damage of SOME Super Attacks "but somehow Special Beam Cannon isn't touched" 2. Raiders now have a higher resistance to Stuns making them able to get out of them much faster then normal "probably by something like 3-4 seconds after being stunned"
Been enjoying the slightly longform videos that are an hour or longer. Just seeing you do games back-to-back, either in practice or in regular queue, is very entertaining.
The thing about the current balance of the game is that it just made things worse for solos and did nothing against premades. In solo being able to vanish feels so necessary and they didn't nerf any stun nor gacha skills that caused problems.
It is most likely they are in voice chat really efficiently knowing where you are when you were at Level 1 at all times. It's always the same player going Level 4. They probably have high mobility build with tanky ST passives. Raiders in general still getting killed by super attacks so devs didn't hit that spot. Would have been nice to see Baby Level 3 fighting them but they never allowed it. "sigh"
devs have never commented on why changes are made especially “the core issue with raider” it’s just a quick, easy change that would have a big impact by comparison. changing one line of code makes level 4 do something other than hitting 1 button for 3 minutes. that’s more healthy imo
hmm,i'm on match 3 and so,it seems the issue is,you are trying to fight the pre-made head on aside from the level 4,the transformations are temporary,so trying to force them to activate them and then just avoiding them seems like a good strategy
Quick story time: I DID play against a pre-made (I believe) on the Snowy Mountain map. They summoned Shenron after finding about three keys, and I JUST got to level 2, so obviously they jumped me. I have two counters I use when being jumped like this: 1. I pull back towards my screen, going with the flow wherever they knock me, but I ensure I move back and shoot my ki blasts. Second, I aim for the Shenron. I will admit, I had two bars of health left after the jump, so I fled. My big brain play was sending out all three servants I had, each pointing towards a different area, because I didn't want to chance them killing me if I searched for where they hid. And when they got their change power back and tried jumping me again, I led them TOWARDS my servants, so I could safely kill them with my own "team". Not sure if this will help anyone, and if you think I'm a coward, I agree 🤣
47:50 i would say these matches are really not a good example to use for balancing, 1st that this is a pre made team, 2nd, these players, or/and you, are lagging, you can see that you are hitting them and its not connecting, while you are taking damage from stuff you dodged, and 3rd, these players are prepared to face a baby raider, and know how to do that as a team. You cant really balance the game with such conditions.
The point of the video was to show off a premade vs Baby And you can be prepared even in regular matches for a baby raider its called running a preset sense you do see what raider your going to face when raider que up
Premades Roll Lobbys Solo Q you just lose Raider is NOT fun its sweep the lobby or die without being able to do anything about it The devs 10000000% do not play the game
Geez, I dont know how you do this, lol. I was losing my marbles. Anyways. Its a good format and showcases the extreme situations of the game. Of course we shouldnt be looking to balance the game out of these artificial situations, but i think its clear that Baby needs to get out of lvl 1 with less Civs, and that his blast voley needs to be able to move. Everything else was VPN shenanigns, or maybe needing a bit more of strategy, like fighting survivor in aras with obstacles, so you can try and run away from the lvl4 kamehameha regular ki blasts
Bruh your going against PC premade those guys can snipe you from so far away with their ki blasts and super attacks also flying around is much easier on PC
They should fr make it that even if u make a queue with freinds u can still use the raider flex queue imagine being able to go against ur freinds and strangers lol
I know Baby's the new Raider and they haven't seen what exploits can be done against him... but they seriously left this torture fest in, but took out the entire dodge mechanic? We better get *two* new maps for the anniversary. One for the Season 7 Raider, and another as compensation for where they fucked up.
@@gicaeptBasically Jaco spaceship with instant rise and grappling hook. It creates a huge distance extremely fast most raiders will just give up chase. Floating device was amazing but with all the raiders speed buff it won't be enough anymore. Raiders can also use your own Floating device. This combo is more safe to use compared to barrier IT since raiders will just cancel you out of IT. If you lack instant rise you could substitute it with smoke bomb so the raiders has a harder time blowing up your ship.
In my opinion I don't think they thought Dodge was a core issue The problem is is people pay money sometimes to roll for skills so just based on a small percentage if the devs started to tamper with the skills in a major way like they did the Dodge it would be a outroar and people might actually stop playing If they touch the skills once you pay for it it's like stealing if they take it away
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"lvl 4 almost died" - missing like 5% of his health
LOL
You know you got your ass beat when you think you almost won. I don’t even blame Cane honestly that was sinister.
Having him run like HE was a survivor.
@@ironcane i just thought about it but voice lines might be the play at level 1 to keep people from hearing you moving around and about, as well as jumping to avoid being identified by footsteps ain't gonna work too much on premades tho, still a fun idea.
It's the little things one must Cherish
I hope this becomes like a series with each raider, it was a really great vid for me to see the faults and benefits of baby
yeah i gotta see this format with the other raiders
Same
22:11 the guy in the nimbus:"alright guys, he is in E. He is the guy with a red shirt and the dweev heair cut"
As crazy as teams like this are idk how you could balance around teams like this without making the base survivor experience unplayable
Easy just remove Survivors Only lmfao
But no really this Game is just cooked straight up October 11th might as well be Breaker's Doomsday calendar
just make premades over 2 players limited to practice mode
They could just give some boost to the raider if the pre made has like, 4 or more people.
I think the solution is easy never balance a game around excellent players in my opinion especially one like this
@@Thatguyyoudontknow594 You know what would actually suck imagine if Season 7 those changes especially Dodges don't get reverted but of course now after finally realizing the actual problems decides to do 2 things
1. Reduce the Damage of SOME Super Attacks "but somehow Special Beam Cannon isn't touched"
2. Raiders now have a higher resistance to Stuns making them able to get out of them much faster then normal "probably by something like 3-4 seconds after being stunned"
Been enjoying the slightly longform videos that are an hour or longer. Just seeing you do games back-to-back, either in practice or in regular queue, is very entertaining.
@jonspider9 appreciate man! I think I will try to do these more!!
The thing about the current balance of the game is that it just made things worse for solos and did nothing against premades. In solo being able to vanish feels so necessary and they didn't nerf any stun nor gacha skills that caused problems.
It is most likely they are in voice chat really efficiently knowing where you are when you were at Level 1 at all times.
It's always the same player going Level 4. They probably have high mobility build with tanky ST passives.
Raiders in general still getting killed by super attacks so devs didn't hit that spot.
Would have been nice to see Baby Level 3 fighting them but they never allowed it. "sigh"
devs have never commented on why changes are made especially “the core issue with raider” it’s just a quick, easy change that would have a big impact by comparison. changing one line of code makes level 4 do something other than hitting 1 button for 3 minutes. that’s more healthy imo
Dababy raider before GTA 6
DB The Breakers premades be like: "Shower? What's that?"
Looooooool😂 accurate
No they take a shower alright.
A shower of their own sweat.💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦
so this is how ranked is gonna be this season. cool
they have to limit the amount of people you can queue up for rank or in general
36:31 I don't know if that jaco ship was intentionally used as a decoy like that but geez that was crazy
this is why premades should be limited to 3 people at the most in public matches... this shit is just sad
hmm,i'm on match 3 and
so,it seems the issue is,you are trying to fight the pre-made head on
aside from the level 4,the transformations are temporary,so trying to force them to activate them and then just avoiding them seems like a good strategy
You and cool moeny working together?! This gonna be terrifying. Also a whole hour long! Sweet!
37:20 godlike combo
19:25 the level 4 was, in fact, not almost dead
Now imagine this once every hour and its in ranked.
You know what, games like these make the dodge nerf completely justified.
Quick story time: I DID play against a pre-made (I believe) on the Snowy Mountain map. They summoned Shenron after finding about three keys, and I JUST got to level 2, so obviously they jumped me. I have two counters I use when being jumped like this: 1. I pull back towards my screen, going with the flow wherever they knock me, but I ensure I move back and shoot my ki blasts. Second, I aim for the Shenron. I will admit, I had two bars of health left after the jump, so I fled.
My big brain play was sending out all three servants I had, each pointing towards a different area, because I didn't want to chance them killing me if I searched for where they hid. And when they got their change power back and tried jumping me again, I led them TOWARDS my servants, so I could safely kill them with my own "team". Not sure if this will help anyone, and if you think I'm a coward, I agree 🤣
25:03 Lean in reminded me of the Virtual Insanity music video.
This be me when I’m playing Baby, it takes me too long to find people lol
Not even a single game. Good god.
47:50 i would say these matches are really not a good example to use for balancing, 1st that this is a pre made team, 2nd, these players, or/and you, are lagging, you can see that you are hitting them and its not connecting, while you are taking damage from stuff you dodged, and 3rd, these players are prepared to face a baby raider, and know how to do that as a team.
You cant really balance the game with such conditions.
The point of the video was to show off a premade vs Baby
And you can be prepared even in regular matches for a baby raider its called running a preset sense you do see what raider your going to face when raider que up
I love the anti baby strat for premades is someone with nimbus turns into a Lakitu from Mario 64
Watching Baby get clapped over and over is so funny, stay strong Iron
bro was farmed
35:20 lol
"I forgot lvl 4's were a thing" Man you've been playing since season one.
Bubbles has to be the funniest skill in the game, from both a gameplay point and a lore point.
Finally ironcane has found a worthy opponent. And as a raider as well
The water zone match had me cringing why were you doing the civ melee instead of hitting the instant kill button
those survivors really said come to the streets☠️
5:26 That's what she said
Tournament when ? 👀
2:36 to 3:26 listen how many civ he miss
Is it just me or has hit detection been wonky this season.
Yeah there seems to be actual server issues because what ever servers breakers uses are ass and also a mix of people playing from eu
I guess raiders aren’t OP at all
Premades Roll Lobbys
Solo Q you just lose
Raider is NOT fun its sweep the lobby or die without being able to do anything about it
The devs 10000000% do not play the game
First match felt like getting Jumpkaisened 😂
Geez, I dont know how you do this, lol. I was losing my marbles.
Anyways. Its a good format and showcases the extreme situations of the game.
Of course we shouldnt be looking to balance the game out of these artificial situations, but i think its clear that Baby needs to get out of lvl 1 with less Civs, and that his blast voley needs to be able to move.
Everything else was VPN shenanigns, or maybe needing a bit more of strategy, like fighting survivor in aras with obstacles, so you can try and run away from the lvl4 kamehameha regular ki blasts
Bruh your going against PC premade those guys can snipe you from so far away with their ki blasts and super attacks also flying around is much easier on PC
Devs are going to see videos like this and buff lv 1-2 baby
13:37?
Bro is so bad at hunting civis. Ho-lee, shiet! 😂
ironecane is allergic to getting his level 3 man
They should fr make it that even if u make a queue with freinds u can still use the raider flex queue imagine being able to go against ur freinds and strangers lol
But the thing is the friends can team with the raider if one of their friends get picked
@@ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od true that’s the only problem
Wasnt that how it was at start? And yeah, people would help ghe raider.
It was like that and people teamed a lot
I guess having baby be op is not op anymore. It's like the vegeta and buu all over again. So next time a raider is out don't say it's op ever again.
And survivors got nerfed crazy and people still gonna say survivors op.
I kinda lost faith in Baby after seeing this 😂
His lv 1-2 needs help
@@JinxKitzune His Lv 1 depends on survivors fucking up and his Lv 2 is just Vegeta Lv 3 without Nappa.
It's ass.
This is really dragon ball the baby´s
How can you so the instant desent as Raider? I don't know how.
Double tap the jump button
@@therevolutioniscoming315Well thank You.
Bro never made to level 3
silent clap redo the video
I know Baby's the new Raider and they haven't seen what exploits can be done against him... but they seriously left this torture fest in, but took out the entire dodge mechanic?
We better get *two* new maps for the anniversary. One for the Season 7 Raider, and another as compensation for where they fucked up.
Iron cane why don,t you use jump pad anymore is it not meta?
There are better options.
@@Ahappysandwich i haven't play this for months so i don't know what's meta
@@gicaeptBasically Jaco spaceship with instant rise and grappling hook.
It creates a huge distance extremely fast most raiders will just give up chase.
Floating device was amazing but with all the raiders speed buff it won't be enough anymore. Raiders can also use your own Floating device.
This combo is more safe to use compared to barrier IT since raiders will just cancel you out of IT.
If you lack instant rise you could substitute it with smoke bomb so the raiders has a harder time blowing up your ship.
@@Ahappysandwich oh i couldn't get jaco ship i stop playing in that season i only run IT pad grappling hook and fake death
got owned by puar? how embarrassing lol XD
Whoa! Respect Puar!
In my opinion I don't think they thought Dodge was a core issue The problem is is people pay money sometimes to roll for skills so just based on a small percentage if the devs started to tamper with the skills in a major way like they did the Dodge it would be a outroar and people might actually stop playing If they touch the skills once you pay for it it's like stealing if they take it away
they nerf gacha skills/units in almost every other game. In shinobi striker they nerf both gacha and abilities you pay for
DBTB on hard mode
This is why survivors are still OP
Because they nerfed the wrong things.
lol you gotta stop using the big fancy moves and use the civilians in these type of ranks.
Ironcane I'm watching and I'm remember what you said out of all the things the Premades have they Turn off Dodging in General
Tell me u nerf survivors without nerfing survivors
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@@looney1283 you are my favorite person
bro is dedicated to the hate
@@expomkr7506 ik right? lol XD
@@ironcane aw thank you, and you too Ironcane :)
Sparking Zero about to be the death of this game fr.
survivors still op
VPN cope?
first
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Watching Baby get clapped over and over is so funny, stay strong Iron