Apollo 17 Lunar Liftoff (Re-Oriented Perspective)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- The lunar liftoff of Lunar Module Challenger during the Apollo 17 mission.
I have re-oriented the footage taken from the lunar module so that it looks like what the astronauts saw at the time.
Note: The DAC was faulty (hence the crewa comment just before ignition) and the actual liftoff was missed. I have used the Lunar Rover view at that point. The replay is added to show the whole of the Lunar Rover sequence. This was not in the original broadcast.
Audio is the air to ground
Farewell, Taurus-Littrow. A perfect mission. I still remember Apollo 17 warmly. I was 14.
It just looks epic when the LEM floats off from the decent stage.
I remember watching this sequence live. Absolutely mesmerizing. I met Eugene Cernan many years later - a true American hero. Also talked to Ron Evans by phone. He was so funny. Told me he loved doing the spacewalk to retrieve the film cassette during the trans-earth insertion portion of the mission.
Doing a spacewalk while in orbit around the moon! That's a long way out there.
Thanks for your wonderful videos ! I lived through all of this and it was indeed great, it affected my entire life for the better.
ur most welcome dks - thanks for the comment
Thanks for posting this. It was neat to see the descent stage sitting there all by itself on the lunar surface! In my opinion,Apollo was the greatest time in our nation`s space program! It`s too bad that Apollo applications and later Constellation were cancelled.
Thanks for the comment JP - and I think most of us wish we had kept going - we would be so much further ahead than we are now
Do you feel the Space shuttle wasn't worth it in the end and stopped NASA from going much further ahead?
I was 12 when this happened. I can remember how bad I felt knowing it was the last one. sadder now all this time later seeing that we never went back. thanks for work on these.
ps. like the mission patch.
I wish I had seen the flights you saw - you lived thru an amazing era. Thanks for the comment - and as for the patch, well a little self promotion does no-one any harm!
The Grumman lunar module. IMO...the greatest engineering achievement in history. Is there any other craft invented by humans that rivals it..pound-for-pound?
yes it was a sophisticated pressure hull like a sub [no airlock,it was pressurized ] the exterior panels are part of the shielding,thermal,micrometeorite protection,so they don't need to be pretty [hoaxer liken it to cardboard.
Seen without the outer shielding the structure is quite beautiful to behold. It's a bit like an F-14 turned inside out. The way they machined the panels and ribs from single pieces, then chemically milled them to thickness is quite amazing.
Spock said it best..."Fascinating!"
Another great effort, LM5.... We really appreciate everything you do. Keep em coming! Thanks again.
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.
Awesome footage
You are most welcome dis. I am currently putting together all the landings with the same re-orientation. Hope you like those too.
On a somewhat philosophical note, I've often wondered if Command Module Pilots Collins, Gordon, Roosa, Worden, Mattingly, and Evans of Apollo missions 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17, respectively, ever harbored any resentment or disappointment for not having walked on the Moon.
I mean, to draw that assignment, to come that close to the Moon and not get to walk on it....
None ever complained,they had a every important job to do
Who would they resent? It was an honor to be among the three-man crew that was going to the moon to begin with. It would seem pretty spoiled to be honored by being picked, and then complain that you're not going to get to walk on the moon, don't you think?
Besides, at the time, they all assumed they would get their chance eventually. Had the Apollo program not been cancelled, many of the command module pilots very well would have been commanders or lunar module pilots on future missions, so in their eyes - even if there was any resentment at all (which there is no evidence there was), they would very likely had viewed it as a means to an end.
Willoughby Krenzteinburg I believe the Command Module Pilots were more senior in terms of experience than the LMPs. Their next chance if any would have been as Commander.
eventcone Richard Gordon, CM pilot for Apollo 12 was the backup commander for Apollo 15 and was slated to be the commander on the prime crew of Apollo 18.
Time (seconds)
10 to 15 16 to 59 60 to 119 120 to 179 180 to 239 240 to 319 320 to 419 420 to cutoff
The simulation yields the following at orbit insertion:
Burn time: 446.1 seconds
Altitude: 18,520 m (10 n.mi.)
Velocity: 1,686.96 m/s (5,534.6 ft/s)
Spot on ... history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_11g_Lunar_Orbit_Phase.htm
Hi Steven - you are most welcome! I think its back to the Apollo 13 series now....I have had a mini break lol
Love the replay footage at the end... Do you know how long Mission Control had access to the camera afterward?
Christopher Moran They had access until the battery on the LRV ran out - I have seen a discussion on this here www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/001391.html
Late to the party here, but the camera on 17 worked for an additional 27 hours. They had planned to catch the lunar lander crash into the surface but it landed too far away but they did manage to capture a science explosive package detonate and observe the results
Any chance you could upload the other launches as well? I've never seen the 14 lunar launch completely, nor 16 or 12 for that matter. Did they do this for 11 as well?
ruclips.net/video/gfDCC4d6zec/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/zZDdYD2hLUo/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/JEFxZNqFlN0/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/8HNOtbCwiHI/видео.html regards LM5
Why can't I see this video never more? Each time I enter this video the screen is just black, but I can hear it.
What are the blinking light things on on the descent stage at 9:09?
I'm pretty sure that those are scraps of Kapton film still oscillating in the vacuum.
awsome
This was great. I was wondering where did you get the original footage?
+Allium Physicanum hi allium ~ have had it in my collection for years ~ regards lm5
Those magnificent americans in their flying machines.
Oh they did slip from time to time :-) I forget which mission one of them complained to his colleague, forgetting he could be heard by the universe, that he'd got the farts. One or two expletives during Apollo 10, and a blaspheme on Apollo 11 :-)
So I just had a really morbid realization.
What if the ascent engine failed, say, as they were pitching over? The ascent stage would have come falling down within visual range of the TV camera. Upon hitting the ground the mostly full propellant tanks would rupture and the hypergolic contents would mix, resulting in the worlds quietest explosion. (Not to the seismometer of course)
All broadcast on live TV assuming nobody pulled the plug soon enough. I don't think I wanna be an astronaut anymore....
this was incredibly risky,the fact they did it so many times,shows you the amount of effort put into the project.people don't realize how big the apollo program was,400,000 people working 10 years.
The type of fuel used,with its own oxidizer helped them achieve the 100 percent success rate.one flight,they broke the arming switch,had they not been able to repair it,they would of been stuck on the surface
That was Apollo 11. And they had the ability to circumvent the breaker. Aldrin just stuck a feltpen in the hole, and flipped the switch.
What a ride,they all worked,a testament to good design and engineering.this was drafting boards Apollo had the ultimate team of cool people,from scientists to guys that could build race cars, they could build anything out of aluminum ,titanium,etc
Those guys were badass, calmly handling shit that would have left lesser men crying for mommy.
The farts - John Young - Apollo 16 - Hot Mike!
Pardon my ignorance with this question. When the astronauts are lifting off from the Moon, are they standing up?
hopykat Hey hopykat - in the LM the Apollo astronauts were "standing" - there were no seats in the LM. To help with their stability they were tethered to the cabin -this helped keep them in position, not specifically when on the lunar surface when they were waiting for liftoff, but during the times they were in orbit and weightless, during the powered descent and during ascent. Hope that helps - LM5
I bet their knees buckled alittle when they blasted off. I also bet they were glad when that engine fired.
hopykat I think you're confused. The visible "blast" during lift off is debris from explosive bolts. The bolts do not propel the craft; they attach the craft to the decent stage, and detach just prior to ascent.
All that is required to lift off from the moon is a modest ~0.3G (you're experiencing ~1 G right now). Anything much less would be inefficient ("gravity drag"); anything much more would also be inefficient because the engines would be prohibitively heavy.
Not only that, with no atmosphere, they could accelerate constantly, get up to speed very quickly and could reach orbit at very low altitude. That's a lot less fuel required. And 0.3g isn't small. In 100 sec, you would be over 600 mph. In 6-7 min you'd have reached orbital velocity. The LM Ascent stage weighed just about 1700 lb on the moon and had a 3500 lbf engine, so it had easily enough thrust.
Ditto on the 'thumbs up' and thanks (again).
As a pilot myself, I just had to chuckle at Schmitt's restraint on-air, when he was fiddling with the DAC, and said "shoot"! I'd probably have slipped and said something scatological. Of course, given time spent training and their cognizance of the historicity, they surely had a lot of practice at censoring what is usually common pilot's salty language.
"Hoax-nuts" are just unable to comprehend this reality. Comm problems: Who'd "fake" that??
So was the camera Digital??
RC Jones thank you rc Jones, it's amazing the adventures they had. And all captured on film. They went to the moon and back. But today with lightweight and powerful cameras and computers the moon is out of reach!
+Scott Wheeler
The moon isn't out of reach. That's just silly. Look, the facts are quite simple to understand. NASA isn't funded today the way it was in the 1960s. During the height of the space race with the Soviets in the 1960s, NASA's budget was between 3 and 5 percent of the total federal budget. That is HUGE. Nowadays, NASA's budget is less than half a percent of the federal budget. Sending manned missions to the moon is expensive, very expensive. They employed 400,000 people back in the 1960s to accomplish it, and NASA only got that kind of money because it was at the forefront of representing our technological power during the cold war. Sending men to the moon wasn't just about doing science, it was mainly about telling the Soviets, "hey, we can accomplish anything we want to accomplish, so you had better not mess with us." Today, there is no cold war. And, with NASA's relative budget only a tiny fraction of what it was back then, sorry, but they can't justify the cost of sending men to the moon. It's really that simple to understand.
tim sims
YOU SAID: "'very complicated and delicate camera' - amazing that the one on the moon was not effected by the explosion of bits when the module took off"
== Please, spare the world your nonsense.
YOU SAID: "Yes of course. 24 years after huge wars in Europe and Japan the US must have had stacks of money to waste on going to the moon"
== This is 100% public information. NASA is a government funded entity, and NASA's budget is public information.
YOU SAID: "( how many missions were there?)."
== This is very easy information to find yourself. If you don't even know how many missions there were, why do you think you know enough about the space program to make your snotty little sarcastic comments?
YOU SAID: "These days US only has a poor economy"
== I explained this already. Back in the 1960s, during the height of the cold war, NASA's budget ranged between 3 and 5 percent of the total federal budget. Almost all of that money went into the moonshot program. Nowadays, NASA's budget is less than 0.5% of the federal budget. And, NASA spreads that over regular aeronautics programs, probes to Mars, probes to asteroids, probes to shoot past Pluto, probes to photograph the moon with the new orbiter, the International Space Station, the shuttle program (when it was active), Hubble space telescope, and the list goes on and on. See, there's a big difference between getting up to 5% of the federal budget to spend on one goal, vs. getting 0.5% of the federal budget to spread over a hundred different goals. If you can't do the basic math here, your mind is lost.
YOU SAID: "apple, google, amazon - none of those companies would have any money nor interest to get to the moon"
== Oh, good freekin' grief. What ARE you talking about?? Those are publicly traded companies. The net worth of any of those companies is roughly equivalent to what it would cost to start a new manned moon program. It cost $20-billion to send men to the moon in the 1960s. People have estimated that it would cost between $200 billion and $400 billion today. What COMPANY would spend that kind of money? Hell, Apple's entire net worth is in that neighborhood. What EXACTLY are you expecting? Someone over at Apple will say to all of its stockholders, "Hey everybody, we're going to drain the entirety of Apple's net worth to send 12 guys to the moon, hope you don't mind that your stock is all worth ZERO now."??? Good freekin' gods, how ridiculous can you be??? No, don't be stupid. Sheesssshhhh.
Look, child, when you don't know what you're talking about, don't come on RUclips and spew snotty comments promoting utter garbage. You just make yourself look stupid.
tim sims Sorry, you're too stupid for words.
brad mack Oh, good freekin' grief. Where do you get this nonsense?? Ed Fendell had a monitor and the controls to the camera. All he had to do is practice. The tilt functionality on the camera broke on Apollo 15, so he couldn't make it tilt on that one. He tried on Apollo 16, but didn't get the timing quite right. So, he tried again on Apollo 17 by doing a few practice simulations right before the lunar surface launch, and then got it right. What "calculations" are you talking about?? He had a remote control and a monitor, and just had to time it a couple of seconds in advance. Sheeessshhhh. Another know-nothing idiot pretending to know things. Congratulations. You've joined the Dunning-Kruger ranks with the rest of the idiotic moon hoaxers who don't know anything, and base their idiotic conclusions on nothing.
The men has the capacity to spread garbage and pollute the moon? Of course, not! Who was filming during the time that lunar module explode to reach the skyes?
Ed Fendall was the man.
Glaube Mut Liebe .
Did they leave some spam and tang up there so when cows and humans cause too much global warming we can go back and live there?
PIGS IN SPACE!!!!