Ms Aisha Jalal wrote manipulated history that suits imperialist powers as well as ASHRAFIA MUSLIMS of Pakistan. True history of Pakistan written by prof. Ishtiak Ahmed.
@@saliksayyar9793I am 56 now and recall my grandfather who would be 120 plus had expressed his disappointment on why people chose to create Pakistan in the first place. This coming from a Brahmin family absolutely secular religious agnostic. I can imagine that must be the sentiment of most non Muslims. Whoever lured the people I can only imagine had vested interests. It was illogical and unreasonable the partition. I have scores of Muslim friends who are looking prosperously without any fear. There are communal clashes not like what you see in Pakistan. It blows hot and cold. Minorities too are in plenty. Nobody is out to reduce their population like you see in Pakistan where the Hindus are almost extinct , the Sikh’s are still around like second grade citizens. We do have corrupt politicians like everywhere but the country is still progressing. Things are not perfect but we are one nation despite all our cultural abd traditional differences and united. To cut a long story short, those who chose to away could have also thrived with the differences.
اشتیاق حرامی کا تعلق ٹمپل روڈ لہور کی ایک کانگرسی-احراری فیملی سے ہے جو ہمیشہ سے مسلمانوں کے مفادات کے خلاف رہی ہیں اور اپنے گھٹیا عزائم کی تکمیل کے لیے مذہب کا زیادہ سے زیادہ استعمال کرتی رہی ہے۔ کانگرس صحرا اور ان کے دوسرے ساتھیوں کو مسلمانوں کی عظیم اکثریت نے بدترین شکست سے دوچار کیا تھا یہ صدمہ یہ لوگ اج تک نہیں بھولے۔ جمہوریت کے یہ دشمن اج تک مسلمانوں کے جمہوری حقوق کے خلاف سرگرم ہیں۔ پاکستان مسلم اکثریتی علاقوں کے مسلمانوں کا ایک جمہوری مطالبہ تھا اور ہندوستان نامی کسی نیشن سٹیٹ کا کبھی بھی کوئی وجود نہیں رہا تھا انگریزوں کے انے پر وہاں سینکڑوں ریاستیں یا ملک موجود تھے انگریزوں نے ان میں سے بہت سوں کو قائم رکھا ان سے خراج وصول کیا اور لڑنے مرنے اور مزدوریاں کرانے کے لیے غلام بھی لیے۔ جب مریض گئے تب بھی ہندوستان نامی چھوٹے بڑے اعظم میں 565 ریاستیں یا ملک موجود تھے جن میں سے حیدراباد جیسی ریاست یورپ کے کئی ملکوں کی مجموعی ابادی اور رقبے سے زیادہ بڑی تھی۔ ایسے میں اگر مسلمانوں نے اپنے اندر قومیت کا جذبہ محسوس کیا اور ایک خیالی فرضی ڈھکوسلے والی ہندوستانی قوم کو قبول کرنے سے انکار کیا تو کیا غلط کیا اور پھر انہوں نے اپنے ووٹ کی طاقت سے اپنی قومیت اور اپنے مطالبے کو سچا بھی ثابت کر دیا۔ اشتیاق احمد جس کا تاریخ سے دور دور کا کوئی واسطہ تعلق نہیں ہے یہ شاید پولیٹیکل سائنس کا ادمی ہے اور کسی سویڈش یونیورسٹی میں یہی مضمون پڑھاتا رہا ہے۔ پھر اسے تاریخ میں کے چھابے میں ہاتھ مارنے کا شوق چرایا اور اس نے بھارتیوں میں پاپولرٹی حاصل کرنے کے لیے ان کے نظریے کے مطابق کتابیں نہ صرف لکھیں بلکہ بھارت ہی سے شائع بھی کر ائی یہ بھارتی لابی کا بندہ ہے پاکستانی اور بنگلہ دیشی مسلمان اسے کبھی بھی قبول نہیں کریں گے۔ ہاں اگر پولیٹیکل سائنس کے نظریات کے حوالے سے کوئی بات کرے تو اس پہ بات ہو سکتی ہے تاریخ سے اس کا کوئی تعلق واسطہ نہیں ہے۔ پکا حرامی ہے پکا
Madam there are 2 salient gaps in the current understood history of Pakistan. 1.history of region of present Pakistan before 712 AD. 2. history of region of present Pakistan between 712 AD and 1857 AD which only has Moghuls in the frame. And this is followed by 3 national personalities:Sir Syed , Allama Iqbal, and Mr Jinnah. Hate towards india/hindus is persistent denominator of Pakistan history. Conversion aspect is a taboo.
हर वह शख्स जो मुसलमान के डेमोक्रेटिक राइट्स के बारे में बात करेगा आपको बुरा लगेगा और जो कोई इस सिलसिले में कांग्रेसी लाइन को तो करेगा वह आपका हीरो होगा चाहे उसकी हिस्ट्री से दूर-दूर तक का कोई ताल्लुक भी ना हो मिसाल के तौर पर इश्तियाक अहमद जो की पॉलिटिकल साइंस का आदमी है लेकिन आपको उसकी बयान की हुई डिस्टोर्टेड हिस्ट्री अच्छी लगती है क्योंकि वह आपको सूट करती है। आपको पता ही नहीं है कि यह आदमी एक ऐसी फैमिली से ताल्लुक रखता है जो पार्टीशन से पहले लाहौर में कांग्रेस और उसकी हिमायती पार्टी मछली से हरारे इस्लाम से ताल्लुक रखती थी। इन दोनों को मुसलमान ने अपने वोट के जरिए से बेहतरीन बहुत बुरी शिकायत थी विशाल के तौर पर 1946 के इलेक्शन में पंजाब जैसे बड़े सुबह में कांग्रेस को एक भी सीट नहीं मिली थी इसी तरह बंगाल में भी कांग्रेस को कोई मुसलमान सीट्स नहीं मिलीथी। अब यह उसे हार का गम है जो के इश्तियाक अहमद जैसे दो नंबर यह हिस्टोरियन को खा जा रहा है और वह उसका किसी न किसी बदला तरह बदला लेना चाह रहे हैं चाहे इसके लिए हिस्ट्री को डिस्टोर्ट ही क्यों न करना पड़े
पहले आप हिंदुस्तानी लेखक अजीत जावेद की जिना पर किताब सेकुलर जीना पड़े फिर कोई बात करें आपको पता ही नहीं है कि जिन क्या था और उसे पार्टीशन की तरफ मजबूरन क्यों जाना पड़ा इस पर कुछ बात जसवंत सिंह ने भी की है कि उसे पार्टीशन और टू नेशन थ्योरी की तरफ कांग्रेस वालों ने धकेल वह बहुत लिबरल और सेकुलर आदमीथा
i think she is one of the finest historians of the world. She has been critical of Pakistan. Just because she does not bash Pakistan as a visceral need further raise her stature. Ishtiaq Ahmad is way way lower as a historian
True, but they would like to hear to ishtiyak who has nothing to do with history and has great bias against Muslim league and its leadership because they had defeated Congress and the Ahraris to whom his family belonged before partition
Prof Pervez Hoodbhoy and Prof Ishtiak Ahmed have just blown the air of your historical balloon! You also presented biased history for so long. But these two giants, albeit late, have shown the light! Maybe an explanation or apology on the cards?
Few in comments say that Ayesha Jalal manipulate history, we need to understand that all historian has different perspective regarding history, we all know hoodbhoy and Ishtiak Sahab has a secular ideology so they say Jinnah not wanted Pakistan etc etc, Every historian not say the things which we want to hear, their no one claim that he or she know true history, everyone see the same event in different perspectives.
The more I see things around in my homeland India the more satisfied I feel about the1947 partition ofBritish India when India that is Bharat was created here and Pakistan there.. dr ShyamaPrasad Mukherjee , who declared openly that ” whether u divideIndia or not but Bengal must be divided ‘ . Mr Zinna is guilty perhaps more than that drMukherjee Why donot you tell the truth of history first before you fancy history mamm.
और इश्तियाक टकले की हिस्ट्री न्यू दिल्ली के सेक्रेटेरिएट के साउथ ब्लॉक से शुरू होकर वहीं साउथ ब्लॉक में ही खत्म हो जाती है उसे चावल का हिस्ट्री से क्या ताल्लुक वह तो पॉलिटिकल साइंस का आदमी है
Madam,the 2 pivotal points/landmarks which Pakistanis are told to be proud of are: 1. Muhammad bin Qasim of 712 AD. 2.Mughal Sultanate of 1526-1857. Phenomena of hindus conversion to muslim identity is a no-no/taboo.
Ayesha is expert in erasing actual history then giving a new self created new history that suits Pak propaganda 😀 However now antidot is available in the form of Dr Ishtiaque😂
India Loses a Lot by Not Knowing the History / Our Temples they need to be restored back- it's our Heritage , our Land !! Ms Aisha stop preaching Indians about our own History - !!
The Quran gives the history of mankind. People and nations were destroyed for their sins. This universal rule of Allah is mentioned again and again but people and nations don’t pay any attention to it, resulting in their destruction. Allah is the most patient. He gives respite so people can repent. If they don’t they bring destruction upon themselves. This history is not taught.
@ When Allah decides to destroy He creates some overt cause like Covid. Unbelievers look at the overt cause while the hidden cause is the sins of the people.
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Ms Aisha Jalal wrote manipulated history that suits imperialist powers as well as ASHRAFIA MUSLIMS of Pakistan. True history of Pakistan written by prof. Ishtiak Ahmed.
There could be more than one point of views, or inference.
Difference of opinion may be respected.
Both wrote anti Pakistan manipulated history.
Pakistan itself wrongthing in history 😂😂😂😂
@@saliksayyar9793I am 56 now and recall my grandfather who would be 120 plus had expressed his disappointment on why people chose to create Pakistan in the first place. This coming from a Brahmin family absolutely secular religious agnostic. I can imagine that must be the sentiment of most non Muslims. Whoever lured the people I can only imagine had vested interests. It was illogical and unreasonable the partition. I have scores of Muslim friends who are looking prosperously without any fear. There are communal clashes not like what you see in Pakistan. It blows hot and cold. Minorities too are in plenty. Nobody is out to reduce their population like you see in Pakistan where the Hindus are almost extinct , the Sikh’s are still around like second grade citizens.
We do have corrupt politicians like everywhere but the country is still progressing. Things are not perfect but we are one nation despite all our cultural abd traditional differences and united.
To cut a long story short, those who chose to away could have also thrived with the differences.
اشتیاق حرامی کا تعلق ٹمپل روڈ لہور کی ایک کانگرسی-احراری فیملی سے ہے جو ہمیشہ سے مسلمانوں کے مفادات کے خلاف رہی ہیں اور اپنے گھٹیا عزائم کی تکمیل کے لیے مذہب کا زیادہ سے زیادہ استعمال کرتی رہی ہے۔
کانگرس صحرا اور ان کے دوسرے ساتھیوں کو مسلمانوں کی عظیم اکثریت نے بدترین شکست سے دوچار کیا تھا یہ صدمہ یہ لوگ اج تک نہیں بھولے۔ جمہوریت کے یہ دشمن اج تک مسلمانوں کے جمہوری حقوق کے خلاف سرگرم ہیں۔
پاکستان مسلم اکثریتی علاقوں کے مسلمانوں کا ایک جمہوری مطالبہ تھا اور ہندوستان نامی کسی نیشن سٹیٹ کا کبھی بھی کوئی وجود نہیں رہا تھا انگریزوں کے انے پر وہاں سینکڑوں ریاستیں یا ملک موجود تھے انگریزوں نے ان میں سے بہت سوں کو قائم رکھا ان سے خراج وصول کیا اور لڑنے مرنے اور مزدوریاں کرانے کے لیے غلام بھی لیے۔ جب مریض گئے تب بھی ہندوستان نامی چھوٹے بڑے اعظم میں 565 ریاستیں یا ملک موجود تھے جن میں سے حیدراباد جیسی ریاست یورپ کے کئی ملکوں کی مجموعی ابادی اور رقبے سے زیادہ بڑی تھی۔
ایسے میں اگر مسلمانوں نے اپنے اندر قومیت کا جذبہ محسوس کیا اور ایک خیالی فرضی ڈھکوسلے والی ہندوستانی قوم کو قبول کرنے سے انکار کیا تو کیا غلط کیا اور پھر انہوں نے اپنے ووٹ کی طاقت سے اپنی قومیت اور اپنے مطالبے کو سچا بھی ثابت کر دیا۔
اشتیاق احمد جس کا تاریخ سے دور دور کا کوئی واسطہ تعلق نہیں ہے یہ شاید پولیٹیکل سائنس کا ادمی ہے اور کسی سویڈش یونیورسٹی میں یہی مضمون پڑھاتا رہا ہے۔ پھر اسے تاریخ میں کے چھابے میں ہاتھ مارنے کا شوق چرایا اور اس نے بھارتیوں میں پاپولرٹی حاصل کرنے کے لیے ان کے نظریے کے مطابق کتابیں نہ صرف لکھیں بلکہ بھارت ہی سے شائع بھی کر ائی یہ بھارتی لابی کا بندہ ہے پاکستانی اور بنگلہ دیشی مسلمان اسے کبھی بھی قبول نہیں کریں گے۔
ہاں اگر پولیٹیکل سائنس کے نظریات کے حوالے سے کوئی بات کرے تو اس پہ بات ہو سکتی ہے تاریخ سے اس کا کوئی تعلق واسطہ نہیں ہے۔
پکا حرامی ہے پکا
Madam there are 2 salient gaps in the current understood history of
Pakistan.
1.history of region of present
Pakistan before 712 AD.
2. history of region of present
Pakistan between 712 AD and
1857 AD which only has
Moghuls in the frame.
And this is followed by 3
national personalities:Sir Syed ,
Allama Iqbal, and Mr Jinnah.
Hate towards india/hindus is
persistent denominator of
Pakistan history. Conversion
aspect is a taboo.
Hi are you student of history?
Madame Ayesha Jalal has a highly dustorted knowledge of history. She should first correct her own perceptions of history before lecturing to others.
हर वह शख्स जो मुसलमान के डेमोक्रेटिक राइट्स के बारे में बात करेगा आपको बुरा लगेगा
और जो कोई इस सिलसिले में कांग्रेसी लाइन को तो करेगा वह आपका हीरो होगा चाहे उसकी हिस्ट्री से दूर-दूर तक का कोई ताल्लुक भी ना हो मिसाल के तौर पर इश्तियाक अहमद जो की पॉलिटिकल साइंस का आदमी है लेकिन आपको उसकी बयान की हुई डिस्टोर्टेड हिस्ट्री अच्छी लगती है क्योंकि वह आपको सूट करती है।
आपको पता ही नहीं है कि यह आदमी एक ऐसी फैमिली से ताल्लुक रखता है जो पार्टीशन से पहले लाहौर में कांग्रेस और उसकी हिमायती पार्टी मछली से हरारे इस्लाम से ताल्लुक रखती थी। इन दोनों को मुसलमान ने अपने वोट के जरिए से बेहतरीन बहुत बुरी शिकायत थी विशाल के तौर पर 1946 के इलेक्शन में पंजाब जैसे बड़े सुबह में कांग्रेस को एक भी सीट नहीं मिली थी इसी तरह बंगाल में भी कांग्रेस को कोई मुसलमान सीट्स नहीं मिलीथी। अब यह उसे हार का गम है जो के इश्तियाक अहमद जैसे दो नंबर यह हिस्टोरियन को खा जा रहा है और वह उसका किसी न किसी बदला तरह बदला लेना चाह रहे हैं चाहे इसके लिए हिस्ट्री को डिस्टोर्ट ही क्यों न करना पड़े
Right. A very regressive view of the world.
She is not a historian but a writer of fiction, where Jinnah was a secular and he never wanted a Pakistan.
Are you a judge?
Jinnah the Joker did a huge favor for India. We should be proud of him in India
पहले आप हिंदुस्तानी लेखक अजीत जावेद की जिना पर किताब सेकुलर जीना पड़े फिर कोई बात करें आपको पता ही नहीं है कि जिन क्या था और उसे पार्टीशन की तरफ मजबूरन क्यों जाना पड़ा इस पर कुछ बात जसवंत सिंह ने भी की है कि उसे पार्टीशन और टू नेशन थ्योरी की तरफ कांग्रेस वालों ने धकेल वह बहुत लिबरल और सेकुलर आदमीथा
Jinnah was a clean shaved pork eating jihadi just like clean shaved jihadi irfan habib
i think she is one of the finest historians of the world.
She has been critical of Pakistan. Just because she does not bash Pakistan as a visceral need further raise her stature.
Ishtiaq Ahmad is way way lower as a historian
True, but they would like to hear to ishtiyak who has nothing to do with history and has great bias against Muslim league and its leadership because they had defeated Congress and the Ahraris to whom his family belonged before partition
Prof Pervez Hoodbhoy and Prof Ishtiak Ahmed have just blown the air of your historical balloon! You also presented biased history for so long. But these two giants, albeit late, have shown the light! Maybe an explanation or apology on the cards?
Few in comments say that Ayesha Jalal manipulate history, we need to understand that all historian has different perspective regarding history, we all know hoodbhoy and Ishtiak Sahab has a secular ideology so they say Jinnah not wanted Pakistan etc etc, Every historian not say the things which we want to hear, their no one claim that he or she know true history, everyone see the same event in different perspectives.
The more I see things around in my homeland India the more satisfied I feel about the1947 partition ofBritish India when India that is Bharat was created here and Pakistan there.. dr ShyamaPrasad Mukherjee , who declared openly that ” whether u divideIndia or not but Bengal must be divided ‘ .
Mr Zinna is guilty perhaps more than that drMukherjee
Why donot you tell the truth of history first before you fancy history mamm.
lots of love for great historian.
Ayesha Jalal, a historian?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dr Ayesha's history start from GHQ Rawalpindi and ends in GHQ Rawalpindi😂😂
R u from Pakistan
और इश्तियाक टकले की हिस्ट्री न्यू दिल्ली के सेक्रेटेरिएट के साउथ ब्लॉक से शुरू होकर वहीं साउथ ब्लॉक में ही खत्म हो जाती है
उसे चावल का हिस्ट्री से क्या ताल्लुक वह तो पॉलिटिकल साइंस का आदमी है
She gained s lot from distorting history
Madam,the 2 pivotal points/landmarks which Pakistanis are told to be proud of are:
1. Muhammad bin Qasim of 712 AD.
2.Mughal Sultanate of 1526-1857.
Phenomena of hindus conversion to muslim identity is a no-no/taboo.
What about the Delhi sultanate ?
sufi saint preaching islam to lower castes of south asia
Ayesha is expert in erasing actual history then giving a new self created new history that suits Pak propaganda 😀
However now antidot is available in the form of Dr Ishtiaque😂
Jinnah fan girl.
India Loses a Lot by Not Knowing the History / Our Temples they need to be restored back- it's our Heritage , our Land !!
Ms Aisha stop preaching Indians about our own History - !!
madam.you are role model for me in history,i want to be like u.
The Quran gives the history of mankind. People and nations were destroyed for their sins. This universal rule of Allah is mentioned again and again but people and nations don’t pay any attention to it, resulting in their destruction. Allah is the most patient. He gives respite so people can repent. If they don’t they bring destruction upon themselves. This history is not taught.
Sorry people and nations were not destroyed for there so called sins they were destroyed due to invaders
@ When Allah decides to destroy He creates some overt cause like Covid. Unbelievers look at the overt cause while the hidden cause is the sins of the people.
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good effort
Ayesha jalal bakery of half baked history
Highly biased and frivolous stories
And Pakistanis love that half baked history, only they can digest that shit
Prove your claims! As it's to malign someone because of your own slackness & half-cooked knowledge
@@mehnazrashid172 we in india at delhi uni refer to several historians and remark hers theory on partion as flawed one !!
@@ramandhankher1574 That still is not a sufficient claim. Its your bias!
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Watch Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed with open mind then you will get the right picture of her biases :)
Without just not even once mentioning the Name of INDIA, this British Agent is talking Nonstop Nonsens.
Israel is Palestine, Pakistan is bharat do you accept me, Mongol to China do you accept.
What if your history is written by international set of crooks?
Ms. Jalal has manipulated history facts as written by Prof. Ahmed
Chai pe nahi coffee pe
Pakistan itself wrong thing in history
Ayesha Jalal is the EDHI of a true history of Pakistan. 🙌
Us ki mummy ne allowed kiya ,phir akela ,aya koi mai thamke
IRONY LOL
Your development with you but thought is asia. Sorry disrupt
U mfss will never change uneducated intellectuals love from India ❤
So jealous of other people history
If you cant accept the past , your future is blank .
Khatam shod borhya ki