Your German pronunciation was alright! A note about Otto von Guericke: He was mayor of Magdeburg, yes, but of course that's not what he's famous for. His more important contribution, and the reason why the city named its university after him, was as a physicist. He came up with the idea of vacuum and atmospheric pressure, and invented the first vacuum pump. The "Magdeburg hemispheres" experiment was performed by him.
I somewhat disagree. For me it was rather difficult to understand the locations where the water is sourced from. Especially for non-native German speakers that is a challenge. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind wrong pronunciation and I appreciate the effort, but I would also appreciate if such difficult to pronounce words would be printed on the screen for easier understanding.
@@Videoaccountname I can't argue with that. Putting such words on screen is always a good idea! Accurate pronunciation doesn't mean it's easy to understand for non-native speakers. The opposite may even be true.
@@ingogelhard8543 no it isn’t. It stems from the word ‘Magd’ which has a long pronunciation of the letter ‘a’ as far as I know. So a long pronunciation of Magdeburg is technically correct.
It’s so damn funny. I subbed your channel just a week ago to learn more about Asias technology and now you are talking about my hometown 🧐 I never thought in a million years that this city would ever have such an international focus in the media as of right now. Btw. the pronunciation was pretty good. Especially Colbitz-Letzinger Heide is a hard one. :D
I was born in Magdeburg and still live here, studying at Ovgu. It’s very interesting to hear an "outsiders" opinion on our situation. Thank you for making this video! (btw word around the people is that Intel choose Magdeburg over Dresden because Saxony-Anhalt was willing to give up more land and payed more but take this with a grain of salt) Intel coming to Magdeburg is especially good for us since one of our biggest industrial firms (FAM) just announced bankruptcy like two weeks ago
Magdeburg ist schon lange international. Erstens studieren Menschen aus aller Welt an den Universitäten, zweitens sind in Magdeburg Durchbrüche bezüglich der Therapie von Parkinson gemacht worden.
@@FrolleinFroschbein naja gut das mit der Internationalität muss nichts heißen, Duisburg Marxloh ist auch "schon lange international" (nur halt nicht in einer guten Art und Weise).
I subscribed to your channel and watch your videos not because they are centered on Asia, but because they are of high quality, enternatining, well researched and informative. Also you offer a unique view on the semiconductor industry - combining history, economics, (geo)politics and technology. Keep up the good work and don't fell obliged to center just on Asia or semiconductors!
I am living in Dresden and Magdeburg and I am stunned by your research! Great work man. This factory really seems to be the turning point for MD. Finally the city is back on the world map and will attract more people.
2 points to add: There are also some other big companies like IBM and T-Systems in MD for the reason of accessibility of highly educated people. Another reason may be the good location as a chip supplier for car manufacturing. Elons car factory Grünheide near Berlin is a 2h drive from MD and directly connected via the A2 and A10 Autobahn. In the western direction there is the biggest german car hub with VW and lots of its suppliers located at Wolfsburg 1.5h drive via A2 and A39 Autobahn, whereas Dresden would be in a "corner" of Germany.
You forgot, to the south, 1 hour away, is the airport Leipzig Halle, with is the DHL/Amazon main hub for transport flights. And at the same the town were Porsche and BMW have ther factory. To the north, it is a 2h drive to Hamburg, the main port of Germany, which can be directly connected by river, all time in the year
@@erbse1178 river water isn't needed for the two factories. The water pipelines and the connected water reservoir are build pre second world war for 500k citizen in Magdeburg, when the town was at there population peak with 380k. Currently, only 230k live in the town, the two factory have a demand like 80k each, so the Pipelines have a reserve for 110k more people, before the area need to add new watersupply.
Nah, Musk/tesla is way too jumpy as a (potential) customer to be worth considering by intel. The spacial distance is also very negligible in this case.
15:51 I never understood large parking lots like this. You'll need to take a bus to the front door if you're made to park at the far end of that parking lot. Are they gonna have valet service for employees?
Copy-Paste most likely and need to use whole land for something, you won't leave it empty. Unused land could be taxed extra or taken away for other users/use
It is incredible how well this understood a lot about the new history of the city, the interconnections and identity. Coming from a non German this is unbelievable and there are millions especially in the former West Germany how are a lot behind this level of knowledge on the Eastern history. I highly appreciate this video, thanks a lot.
As a resident of Magdeburg I was highly and very positively surprised to find your video. You did a solid research and a good presentation of the city. I share your conclusions about the positive impact Intel will have to Magdeburg on so many levels. The question remains how high the percentage of new jobs will be for residents of Magdeburg or the surrounding area. Berlin is not far away as well as the metropolitan area of Halle/Leipzig. So many empoyees could come from those areas. Another question that comes to mind is about the amount of taxes Intel will pay in Magdeburg. Many big companies are treaded very benevolent by governments, i.e. Tesla with its settling southeast of Berlin or Amazon. I hope the positive effects will prevail. Thumbs up for your german pronounciation!
I grew up in hillsboro when Intel chose it for a location of it's first fab, now the area is covered with Intel fabs and RnD. It has been a tremendous benefit to the local area. Intel is now Oregon's Largest employer in both number of people, and income (outpacing Nike, Adidas, Reebok Daimler)
i think so too, that parking lot looks like it would hold about 3500 to 4000 cars which is like ... 5000 people for public transport getting 5000 people somewhere is nearly trivial, so if that space was used for a bus/tram/train hybrid station instead it could be a lot cheaper for a "normal" bus with two doors you have 100 ish capacity, so that 50 buses (or lets say 80 buses for less efficient packing/non perfect staggering) if you have a bus arrive every 5 minutes in 5 lanes you can have 5000 people arrive in about 80 minutes so with tram and train, you could absolutely have the capacity to bring people into the building in the morning within an hour - completely without traffic jams
@@Maric18 I think you'd want fairly high capacity transit, since most people at the plant would be working in fixed shifts. I think a tram stop would certainly be worth it for 5k passengers a day, if it's just a simple line extension. Buses could pick up a few workers from outlying suburbs and villages, and of course there would be some who still need to drive in.
As someone who lives in Magdeburg I appreciate you making a video on the subject. By the way you mispronounced many words 😅. Also Otto von Guericke is more famous for discovering the physics of vaccume and that's what he is here celebrated for. On a positive note your informations is very accurate, I am very impressed.
I think Intel impact in Magdeburg for better or worse then TSMCs impact will depend greatly on what other functions is done there besides manufacturing (like R&D, Sales….).
I agree. Once the construction is done, there is really not that many workers needed. The ROI on jobs per dollar is much lower in semiconductors than other industries that rely less on automation.
@@excitedbox5705 I think you should broaden your ROI for Germany Intel will build up a nice supplier base and highly skilled workers. Just look at chandler in Arizona pre intel and post intel, these kinds of deals aggregate a lot of wealth to the region (IP, technical employees, suppliers, universities etc.)
@@fabianstuckmann3611 no they wont Germany is densely populated and cultivated so they dont need to make that stuff on site. Its not uncommon for a craftsmen do drive each day to a construction site in another state for example.
That the EU is funding Intel to come over in part is probably due to strategic concerns I guess, it is a bit problematic if a major trade or other incident cuts the EU off from advanced computing technology. Of course such things aren't free, so one hopes they've balanced the costs well versus the amount of risk mitigated.
I guess this initiative is not only about attracting only one major chip fab for high end nodes, but also it's about growing a future network of suppliers, research and personal, which could eventually could support a genuine european semiconductor industry. Actually, Germany is very active in semiconductor research, only thing is that most of it is concerned with things such as solar cells and exotic materials.
Don't worry, your pronounciation of the german city names is so good, that I as a German can easily understand them and they are right. Great effort! Apart from that, I am very proud you made a video about an area I very much identify with. Thank you.
I am very impressed by your research. I live in Magdeburg and most people here don't know half the facts you just presented. Hats off to you sir. I am seriously considering joining your patreon.
While the employee situation in Dresden is tight, Magdeburg can draw from northern Germany's Universities such as Hannover. H. has an EE material science, manufacturing department and of course general physics too. But Hannover has no demand for semiconductor engineers.
Heavy metals are easy to get rid of in used water discharge. They form easy unsolvable salts with sulfides and you treat the rest with Fe(II) ions that form a kind of active carbon effect at pH 9,5. They form a kind of snowflake that has huge surface and binds stuff with it.
The problem is cleaning the soils from heavy metals. it's a big problem, especially in eastern Germany. Often it is needed to carve out the soil to treat properly.
Compared to other countries, Germany is so small that it doesn't matter where you build your factory and eastern Germany is still pretty cheap. You can get skilled workers not only from Germany but especially from eastern european countries like Poland to Romania, where technical jobs are still more popular for young students then in western Europe.
Point is, you need a backbone of skilled worker from the Semiconductor-Industry to run such a hugh new factory. And for Germany, you can find these people only in Dresden.
I am from Magdeburg and it's a really appriciated thing at least for me and the people i know. I Study Cumputer science here in Magdeburg and i am born here. I really hope this will help our region and also make the EU less dependent on Asian Tech wich may be a big factor in the near future.
My grandma used to live close to Magdeburg. I learned something new about the city from your video, and you going through all the aspects of chip manufacturing and social/environmental linkages is just great. Also, take a look at Otto von Guericke in the comment below from Daniel Bamberger. While it's not the topic of your channel, just think about how frustrating it is for people living in a place where inventors such as von Guericke (but also Zeiss in Jena....) pushed forward science, while nowadays being de-industrialized due to exactly the history you laid it. It is extremely satisfying to see this heal. Re: the purpose of having a Fab here, isn't it just attractive for the EU to be less dependent on imports from overseas sites? I'd say this is the main rationale of the Fab subsidies
I live in Germany and I plan to study engineering, probably something with semiconductors, next year. This fab might be my future work space, which is really exciting. A problem I see, however, is the water situation and the car problem as shown by the huge parking space. I try to save the environment with my actions so both seem not that great.
Water from the Elbe is similiar to that in Dresden. This simplifies purification equip and removes need to install new testing stations downstream as the water is tightly monitored already because of the Dresden fab.. I guess that was one of reasons to deploy new fab along same river - it simply cuts costs . Ad transport - This is dead German city, with loads of disciplined people. Any extra local company paying taxes will create public transport . I hope that besides public transport and bicycle network they will also build "bicycle highways" shared with lightweight microcar infrastructure, as usually there is this "middle shelf" system missing, adding annoyance as it is colder climate city.
@@piotrcurious1131 didn't think about your first point, seems logical. Sure, we can hope that happens, but I don't see any bus stop or bike lanes/parking in the render of the fab. Things can and will change, it is, however, not a great sign.
@@NutellaToastOW i think the render of the fab is just stock photo. Building such a fab takes like 5 years and i bet there will be social consulting meetups in the city council to integrate it , esp it seems it will be flagship industry of the city and any infrastructure for workers will get double use for tourism too.
@@piotrcurious1131 Yeah that's true, I'll stay conservatively optimistic. I might think about those details too much in such early state of building the fab.
@@NutellaToastOW I think the render is mainly for a US audience, and the marketing department simply had to create a render of a factory that projects the idea of "many new jobs created". Still, as is seen with the Tesla/Grünheide, it may be a struggle to get all of this into harmony.
On the water topc, the waterpiplines and supply were build for 500k citizen pre second world war, when the population peaked at 380k. The current 230k citizen only use half of the capacity. So with your 80k per factory, we have 230k+160k = 390k water demand, which gives 110k water reserve for new citizen and other companies, before the area has to add new pipelines into the water market.
Great Video! As a resident of the Town, i wanna give you a kind but important hint: Its called 'Mug'-deburg People here could get grumpy if you pronounce it the wrong way😅
1:25 Small correction about the status of Berlin: The city was divided and West Berlin simply belonged to West Germany, and East Berlin was part of Eastern Germany
I live in Magdeburg. It's one of the driest regions in Germany already. We have been in drought since 2018. I'm really afraid of the future and whether we'll have enough affordable water and food. I'm active in a local community garden and we're parched. We need to water with tap water, because it doesn't rain enough. We even decided against trying to bore a well, because the groundwater is probably gone anyway. The Elbe often has low water. I don't even want to know how much area is going to be sealed again for this thing. I wish they would at least TRY to make the building eco-friendly. But I doubt it. :( The green spaces are being reduced, which takes away living space from local wildlife that had to flee the countryside because they are being poisoned and made homeless there. And we also aren't a "capital of culture". We APPLIED for that title, but weren't granted it. While there are a few theaters and an opera house, independent and sub-cultural projects are often underfunded or shut down.
Erinnerst du dich an die schlimme Überschwemmung vor ein paar Jahren? Das wär bestimmt nich so schlimm geworden, wenn die Elbe im Normalfall mehr Wasser führen würde.. Ich befürchte die nächste Überschwemmung (wann auch immer die sein mag) wird noch extremer, so ausgetrocknet wie momentan alles is..
@@reedasreh3621 2013, ja, ich erinnere mich daran. Aber ich weiß nicht, ob man das jetzt direkt auf Trockenheit zurückführen kann. 2012 und 2013 hatten wird nämlich gar keine Dürre im Raum Magdeburg. 2012 gab es Dürre im nördlichen Bayern, BaWü und eventuell Thüringen, aber dort fließt die Elbe ja nicht lang. (Quelle: Die Dürrekarten der letzten Jahre des UFZ)
Pretty good pronunciation! By Californian or Israel standards water and traffic won't be a problem at all. Intel will have to clean its waste water very thoroughly, though.
Magdeburg is a totally underrated. Living quality is high and living is cheap. Intel surprised everybody in Magdeburg. Interestingly, the OvGU has scuttled it's semiconductor manufacturing in the last years.
Another major reason why Intel chosed Magdeburg, was the central location to huge Customers. Tesla´s Gigafactory lies around 130km east, VW Headquarter lies around 100km west and Leipzig also has a big BMW and PORSCHE factory, that both lie about 100km south. Furthermore, they are all easily reachable by cars/trucks via Autobahn and also by train or even ship, because of the canal in the north of Magdeburg.
The currency exchange is not what made eastern German industry uncompetitive, it was already extremely uncompetitive in the global market. The Ostmark was worth less than a fifth of the Westmark before. The exchange was therefore a massive, unprecedented subsidy to east Germans. Imagine your liquid wealth going up 5 fold just like that. The alternative would have been to let us live in poverty with a growing economy, which would have the same effect of bleeding the country dry, since no one wants to work the same job for much less money than in the west. If Korea ever unifies, the north will become a ghost town, and probably never recover in population
after some time east Germany turned to what west germany could never have again - nature and tourism. Industry is not everything and it transforms cities and landscapes forever. Look up how well tourist resorts in the east Germany fare - with horse farms, ski resorts, permaculture farms, spa cities. Certainly not a "ghost cities" esp. after rebuilding of cities like Dresden, which get almost quarter of tourist turnover of Prague. North Korea has huge touristic potential too, and will sure serve for overcrowded and overindustrialised south Korea. North Korea has beautiful mountain ranges which are attractive to visit both for Koreans and Chineese. Also for people from europe or america it would be much easier to start sightseeing Korea starting from smaller, traditional settlements in the north, where they can get some idea about history, culture and nature, before being thrown i to some crazy place like Seoul and getting culture shock.
@@piotrcurious1131 Dude, im a Dresdener, the city is rich and vibrant. Tourism is not a major industry. That doesn't change the fact that in the early 90s, 30 years ago, there was a massive exodus of people and industry. My argument is that that industry was artificially kept alive by corrupt socialist planners and not competitive in a market. The downturn couldn't have been avoided if the people did not recieve the subsidy. You can draw parallels with North Korea, except it would be much worse, since the economic differrence is mindboggling. The only economies that can live off tourism are tiny local areas.
@@CjqNslXUcM Like Bavaria or Florence?😃 I live near Dresden and if you consider it "vibrant" then you should really travel more. I do not say Dresden is all bad, but like You say, it only survived thanks to huge subsidies as s city. Big problem after socialism was that it left everything polluted, overpopulated and in debt. Tourism is sure not main defining industry of Dresden, but it is significant part of it. It is generally impossible to expect failed states like eastern Germany to survive after collapse of communism by themselves, without subsidies , thanks to some cargo cult project like industry or tourism, yet it helps to define the sustainable future and potential of the place . Afterall after one or two generations of depopulation and subsidies goal is to reach stable state.
Thats ture ... things like a (world)war can flip things that grew for decades upside down. I see the same thing happen in Ukraine btw. because until the very recent past eastern Uraine was the industrialized and wealthy part but now there was and is the most fighting there and people migrated to the western part.
Otto von Guericke was not just a politician, he is sometimes called inventor of vacuum, because he made experiments with vacuum pumps and also other scientific work.
I suspect that car park is from some US designers template. X number of people Y number of cars. Even the Berlin Tesla factory ended up with decent public transport .
Speaking of Dresden, Global Foundry is certainly there. However, Infineon (world's largest power semiconductor manufacturer) and Bosch have much larger fabs in Dresden. Certainly worth mentioning.
I am really looking forward to Intel coming to our city! Your history on Magdeburg is very correct, I know bc my grandpa worked at SKET as a young man before he made himself selfemployed. This city really suffered during war times, a lot of very old and historical buildings were destroyed, sadly only a few stand to this day. Magdeburg used to be a giant thriving city and capital of the kingdom from Otto the Great in the 10th century. Sadly that is almost everything that Magdeburg has to offer: history - but not much left of it to impress. I hope that when Intel comes here, they bring our city out of the shadows again so that people will know this city again and we are not forgotten anymore, as we are now.. Thank you really much for this video! I am grateful that people are interessted in this topic and maybe soon young people will start to stay here or even come to work here from other parts od Germany. I will always stay here, because I love this city will all its flaws and all its beauty (nice pick of pictures btw. I was so happy to see the effort you put into researching^^)
From CV Wedgwood "The Thirty Years War": "When Christian William was reinstated in his episcopal chair, a flight of ravens wheeled screeching over the town, and in the angry sunsets of succeeding nights strange armies fought among the clouds, while under the lurid reflections of the sky the Elbe ran blood-red. Europe applauded the splendid defiance, but at Magdedburg the people sulked, quarrelled and obstructed their defenders."
Your pronunciation of the names was pretty good. Particularly considering that other Asians I met were puzzled about the name of my hometown, which is phonetically as difficult as Kolbitz Letzlinger Heide. The city of Erfurt has it easier. Just think of airport and you are pretty close to pronouncing it. I'm from Saxony-Anhalt and I had relatives in Magdeburg.
When in Magdeburg: the cathedral is a must-see Some of the best medieval sculptures can be found there. E.g. the wise and the foolish virgins ruclips.net/video/o6uso6SgOvk/видео.html It hosts also the grave of the first Holy Roman Emperor Otto I.
Intel is backing away from plans to start construction in the first half of 2023 on a “mega-fab” semiconductor plant in Germany, according to media outlet Volksstimme.
well done video and especially interesting for the facts about water needs in waver production, since Magdeburg region is one of those with the smallest rainfalls within Germany. In the last 3 or 4 years of draught ground water levels dropped dramatically. The Elbe river had such unknown low levels of water that it was not navigable by ships for several months each year. Three notes to video itself: The East German Mark were converted 2:1 to the West German Mark in 1990, with exception only small amount per person to soften hardships for poor people. Otto von Guericke should be pronounceable for two reasons: "otto" ist the city's marketing character and Mayor Otto von Guericke's unique roll as scientiest discovering and describing the effect of air pressure and vacuum. The Hundertwasser building is called Green Citadel (not Green Cathedral) refering to the cities history of the stronges fortified city of Prussia. One critical issus was not mention in the video: the position of the facility. Magdeburg is flanked in the West and Southwest by the best arable soil to be found in Germany, often twice or even three times as productive as the fields in the North or East of the city. There of all places between 300 and 500 hectars of untouched fields are reserve for the Intel facility. This would mean an area which is 15 to 25 time larger (!) than the Dresden facilities mentioned in the video. Having this precious soil in mind it was a PR disaster to me presenting the first architectural renderings with gigantic ground-level parking lots - taking up nearly 50% of the project area and illustrating the not sustainable, wasteful approach of soil sealing. This might be the norm in car dependent and extensive North America, but raises eyebrows in dense and environmentally conscious Europe.
Magdeburg do not use any river water, the Elbe was for 100 years a death river and undrinkable. Magdeburg depends on a water pipeline system, builder pre second world war, and designed for 500k citizen in Magdeburg, when the town were at the population peak with 380k. At the moment, only 230k people use this waterpiplines for 500k. There is enough water reservoir connect to the town and region.
@@aqvamarek5316 drinking water for Magdeburg is gained from ground water in the Colbitz Letzlingen heath north of the city. In order to obtain the ground water levels river water is taken from the Ohre river and seeped there. The Ohre river is a tributary river of the Elbe river - harvesting water there does have an effect consequently on the Elbe river, too. This ground water supply from the heath for Magdeburg startet in the 1960's. Before that water came directly from the Elbe river - though it was taken from the East banks of the river, since the highly polutated tributary rivers enter from the West and the river water does not completly mix for a long distance. Magdeburg never, at no time had 380 k inhabitants. The demographic peak was at 330 k in 1939.
@@henningbartels6245 directly from the source Wichtige Etappen der Entwicklung des Verbundsystems 1932Inbetriebnahme des Wasserwerk (WW) Colbitz mit der ersten Trinkwasserleitung nach Magdeburg The waterpipline is from 1932, and it was since than, that Magdeburg got independent from Elbe water 1961Bau der zweiten Trinkwasserleitung vom WW Colbitz und des Hochbehälter (HB) Dehmberg You mean the second expanding in 1961
Im from Magdeburg and we was an important industrial city in the past.The most people in Magdeburg are very exciting and hopeful for the future.Magdeburg growing up to his old size and significancity In german it calls:"Magdeburger Größenwahn" ;)
I live in the other big city in Sachsen-Anhalt and can confirm: the tab water is the best I‘ve ever drank in Germany. Especially compared to Hamburger water.. the city I live in now.
Hamburger that lived in Brunswick for 4 years - Harz water is so much better than the mineral sludge we get in Hamburg. I don't know where all the calcium comes from, but I constantly have to descale my kettle now -.- (Also: there are no big cities in SA, everything under 500K is barely a city ;) and if you can cross it with a bike in under an hour it's not big :P )
You shouldn't worry on doing videos about Europe / USA / etc at all - the modern economy is so globalized, and it doesn't make sense to focus only on one particular country, especially on your analytical level. Maybe you can take a stance "I'm kinda expert in Asian economies because i live here", but you shouldn't apologize and make excuses every time you do a video about Germany or Brazil :)
Funny thing, I've most likely been to that exact same place the deer is standing. It's that famous deer park in Japan, right? Where you can feed them with food you buy there and poop all over the place :P
Me as Magdeburger is very hapoy about the choice from Intel we also speak in the school about it mostly in history because this is a part of the Industrial revolution part 4 I think
I think it's quite tragic that a single foreign company may dictate life and death of your city. Most of the money will flow into the pockets of those who already have money...
For all the taxes, etc, I'm quite surprised to hear of the low rent prices in Germany. Really interesting to hear of all of the factors which play into a new fab, I'm quite curious how intel will support the business of 10s of billions of capex, and the cash flow restrictions which ought to be caused by this, with their main customer being themselves.
Thanks for this very interesting video. I really hope that this comes to fruition. But I see some pretty strong challenges ahead. There are speculations in some German papers that Intel might be forced to import technical talent from Taiwan and South Korea because of the lack thereof here in Germany. I dont know about that. A significant challenge will be power and its cost. I somewhat doubt the economic viability of this fab with the current prices of electrical energy and the trajectory they follow for years now (highest in OECD now and rising). Intel might be better off building their own power plant to mitigate this and the growing instability of the German grid.
@@Sedna063 I know what you mean, but it was one of the most stable not is. Up until the late 90s it was very stable, but now the energy companies need to regulate the grid several times a day to keep it stable (20 years ago they did that 3 to 4 times a month). With the prioritizing of the so-called renewable energy sources, the grid became ever more unstable. Maybe Intel will get a permit for an own power plant, but I doubt it.
If you live in Magdeburg and can afford it, buy some property. The values will go way up and you'll have no problem finding tenants. This fab, if it happens will change Magdeburg for good. Lots of construction jobs for a few years. Then lots of jobs with companies supporting the fab. Intel built a fab in my home town in Leixlip, just as I finished college. I got a job with them in 1993, I'm still with them now. Not in Ireland any more, I'm at F42 in Ocotillo. It's going to be a great opportunity for lots of young people in Germany.
Is that water usage per water a) how much total new water gets brought in per wafer or b) how much water is cycled through per water? I ask since these facilities have massive water treatment for water recycling. Thanks and great video as always
"Magdeburg had 167k workers in 1990, only 1/2 of them had jobs by 1999" inferring that people left because of a lack of jobs. I would argue that most people wanted to leave their whole lives and now they could. Pollution and low quality of life being the motivation. That critique aside, Great video content, research and story board.
Magdeburg has changed a whole lot since 1990, I came here first in '94, didn't like it much at all and left after 5 years. Came back 8 or 9 years ago and really like it. It's spacious and clean.
Very interesting as Intel is also planning to build a similarly large chip plant in Columbus, OH. I would assume that it is to help support the already booming auto, SUV, & truck manufacturing facilities in central Ohio. Magenburg ( hope that I spelled it right sounds like its a greart place to live. Columbus is getting congested and over crowded.
1hour in the east is Wolfsburg from Magdeburg, the VW (Volkswagen) main factory. 2 hours west is the new Tesla factory. Into the south, between 1.5 to 2.5 hours, you have BMW, Porsche Factory, the VW electrical main factory, and a OPEL factory. At the location of BMW/Porsche, there is also the main airport for DHL and Amazon with night transport airplanes in Germany. Roughly 5 km eastern of the factory, there is with airport more or less private for intel, with one of the longest runways (old.military airport) which can be used day and night. 2 hours into the north, is Hamburg, the main port of Germany, connect with the river Elbe, railroad and highway
@@aqvamarek5316 Sounds like it may support German auto manufacturing. I never knew that auto's, especially their engines, had so many chips in them. The high end cars have the equivalent of a fairly high powered personal computer built into their dash board. At least they do in the Accura (Asian equivalent to a BMW market wise) SUV's where our company is shipping steel parts to.
@@aqvamarek5316 I would say so since most auto chips in the Upper Midwest come out of Texas, not Arizona or California. Therefore, they are probably manufactured from a company called Texas Instruments.
@@aqvamarek5316 the airport you mentioned 5km next to the factory, you mean the Magdeburg one? If so, it wasn´t a military one. Was from the beginning on planned for post, passengers and arial survey, only during the world wars it was taken over by the military, 1950 that was over again (thank goodness!) And I assure you, its not big xD its tiny tbh.. mostly only flight school and hobby pilots are there
Your German pronunciation was alright!
A note about Otto von Guericke: He was mayor of Magdeburg, yes, but of course that's not what he's famous for. His more important contribution, and the reason why the city named its university after him, was as a physicist. He came up with the idea of vacuum and atmospheric pressure, and invented the first vacuum pump. The "Magdeburg hemispheres" experiment was performed by him.
I somewhat disagree. For me it was rather difficult to understand the locations where the water is sourced from. Especially for non-native German speakers that is a challenge. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind wrong pronunciation and I appreciate the effort, but I would also appreciate if such difficult to pronounce words would be printed on the screen for easier understanding.
@@Videoaccountname I can't argue with that. Putting such words on screen is always a good idea! Accurate pronunciation doesn't mean it's easy to understand for non-native speakers. The opposite may even be true.
…except for his rendering of Määäägdebörg, the English equivalent to the equally despised West German Maaaaagedeburg.
@@ralf391 they never get it. its a short "a" in Magdeburg.
@@ingogelhard8543 no it isn’t. It stems from the word ‘Magd’ which has a long pronunciation of the letter ‘a’ as far as I know. So a long pronunciation of Magdeburg is technically correct.
It’s so damn funny. I subbed your channel just a week ago to learn more about Asias technology and now you are talking about my hometown 🧐
I never thought in a million years that this city would ever have such an international focus in the media as of right now.
Btw. the pronunciation was pretty good. Especially Colbitz-Letzinger Heide is a hard one. :D
Hi Swiftbird do you know the address of the Intel site in Magdaburg?
@@finbarrsullivan8158 I don’t think there is an address yet, as it is planned to be build on what is now a field near a highway
@@maddoggLP Thank you
You can thank China and it’s posturing for the investment.
Würde mich für Magdeburg freuen…….bin immer gerne dort gewesen.
I was born in Magdeburg and still live here, studying at Ovgu. It’s very interesting to hear an "outsiders" opinion on our situation. Thank you for making this video! (btw word around the people is that Intel choose Magdeburg over Dresden because Saxony-Anhalt was willing to give up more land and payed more but take this with a grain of salt)
Intel coming to Magdeburg is especially good for us since one of our biggest industrial firms (FAM) just announced bankruptcy like two weeks ago
interesting to see again, the word "outsider"🤣
My beloved Magdeburg makes international headlines, what a time for this city 😊
Ja oder? Das das Mal passiert ich kann es immer noch nicht fassen 😀
Moin Männers 😄 hätte damit auch nicht gerechnet
Magdeburg ist schon lange international. Erstens studieren Menschen aus aller Welt an den Universitäten, zweitens sind in Magdeburg Durchbrüche bezüglich der Therapie von Parkinson gemacht worden.
@@FrolleinFroschbein naja gut das mit der Internationalität muss nichts heißen, Duisburg Marxloh ist auch "schon lange international" (nur halt nicht in einer guten Art und Weise).
i just now realised he has a deer as profile picture
Same
He explains it here: ruclips.net/video/zLsKh7YUvF0/видео.html
I must thank your comment. I noticed it now too 👀
It's been.... over a year...
@@johnnymatias3027 WHAT?! I swear it was a human pfp b4
I subscribed to your channel and watch your videos not because they are centered on Asia, but because they are of high quality, enternatining, well researched and informative. Also you offer a unique view on the semiconductor industry - combining history, economics, (geo)politics and technology. Keep up the good work and don't fell obliged to center just on Asia or semiconductors!
that parking lot looks scary, I hope they extend a tram line instead. My uni has a dedicated line, so why not a factory
I am living in Dresden and Magdeburg and I am stunned by your research! Great work man. This factory really seems to be the turning point for MD. Finally the city is back on the world map and will attract more people.
2 points to add: There are also some other big companies like IBM and T-Systems in MD for the reason of accessibility of highly educated people. Another reason may be the good location as a chip supplier for car manufacturing. Elons car factory Grünheide near Berlin is a 2h drive from MD and directly connected via the A2 and A10 Autobahn. In the western direction there is the biggest german car hub with VW and lots of its suppliers located at Wolfsburg 1.5h drive via A2 and A39 Autobahn, whereas Dresden would be in a "corner" of Germany.
Didn't thought about the position in-between Berlin and Wolfsburg. That's definitely important.
You forgot, to the south, 1 hour away, is the airport Leipzig Halle, with is the DHL/Amazon main hub for transport flights.
And at the same the town were Porsche and BMW have ther factory.
To the north, it is a 2h drive to Hamburg, the main port of Germany, which can be directly connected by river, all time in the year
@@aqvamarek5316 Yes you are right. And there is the Elbe river with lots of water that a chip fab would need.
@@erbse1178 river water isn't needed for the two factories.
The water pipelines and the connected water reservoir are build pre second world war for 500k citizen in Magdeburg, when the town was at there population peak with 380k.
Currently, only 230k live in the town, the two factory have a demand like 80k each, so the Pipelines have a reserve for 110k more people, before the area need to add new watersupply.
Nah, Musk/tesla is way too jumpy as a (potential) customer to be worth considering by intel. The spacial distance is also very negligible in this case.
15:51 I never understood large parking lots like this. You'll need to take a bus to the front door if you're made to park at the far end of that parking lot. Are they gonna have valet service for employees?
they are built because of fire safety. When things like fabs burn , people better be in their cars, with internal air circulation .
Copy-Paste most likely and need to use whole land for something, you won't leave it empty. Unused land could be taxed extra or taken away for other users/use
Its a 4 minute walk at worst. a short stroll outside before work does not harm anybody. you must be disabled or american.
@@gryn1s 'or american'😅
@@hanswurst5493 IF it is good weather.
It is incredible how well this understood a lot about the new history of the city, the interconnections and identity. Coming from a non German this is unbelievable and there are millions especially in the former West Germany how are a lot behind this level of knowledge on the Eastern history. I highly appreciate this video, thanks a lot.
Funny enough: Working at the science port you showed :)
@pegamini Hi everyone.
I don't care, I like the video.
As a resident of Magdeburg I was highly and very positively surprised to find your video. You did a solid research and a good presentation of the city. I share your conclusions about the positive impact Intel will have to Magdeburg on so many levels. The question remains how high the percentage of new jobs will be for residents of Magdeburg or the surrounding area. Berlin is not far away as well as the metropolitan area of Halle/Leipzig. So many empoyees could come from those areas. Another question that comes to mind is about the amount of taxes Intel will pay in Magdeburg. Many big companies are treaded very benevolent by governments, i.e. Tesla with its settling southeast of Berlin or Amazon. I hope the positive effects will prevail.
Thumbs up for your german pronounciation!
I grew up in hillsboro when Intel chose it for a location of it's first fab, now the area is covered with Intel fabs and RnD. It has been a tremendous benefit to the local area. Intel is now Oregon's Largest employer in both number of people, and income (outpacing Nike, Adidas, Reebok Daimler)
I guess it wouldn't be too much to ask to extend out one of the tram lines to the factory, if it's going to be one of Magdeburg's biggest employers.
The rendering with the parking spaces was done by an American firm, they probably never heard of public transportation.
i think so too, that parking lot looks like it would hold about 3500 to 4000 cars which is like ... 5000 people
for public transport getting 5000 people somewhere is nearly trivial, so if that space was used for a bus/tram/train hybrid station instead it could be a lot cheaper
for a "normal" bus with two doors you have 100 ish capacity, so that 50 buses (or lets say 80 buses for less efficient packing/non perfect staggering)
if you have a bus arrive every 5 minutes in 5 lanes you can have 5000 people arrive in about 80 minutes
so with tram and train, you could absolutely have the capacity to bring people into the building in the morning within an hour - completely without traffic jams
@@Maric18 I think you'd want fairly high capacity transit, since most people at the plant would be working in fixed shifts. I think a tram stop would certainly be worth it for 5k passengers a day, if it's just a simple line extension. Buses could pick up a few workers from outlying suburbs and villages, and of course there would be some who still need to drive in.
As someone who lives in Magdeburg I appreciate you making a video on the subject. By the way you mispronounced many words 😅.
Also Otto von Guericke is more famous for discovering the physics of vaccume and that's what he is here celebrated for.
On a positive note your informations is very accurate, I am very impressed.
I think Intel impact in Magdeburg for better or worse then TSMCs impact will depend greatly on what other functions is done there besides manufacturing (like R&D, Sales….).
I agree. Once the construction is done, there is really not that many workers needed. The ROI on jobs per dollar is much lower in semiconductors than other industries that rely less on automation.
@@excitedbox5705 I think you should broaden your ROI for Germany
Intel will build up a nice supplier base and highly skilled workers.
Just look at chandler in Arizona pre intel and post intel, these kinds of deals aggregate a lot of wealth to the region (IP, technical employees, suppliers, universities etc.)
@@fabianstuckmann3611 no they wont
Germany is densely populated and cultivated so they dont need to make that stuff on site.
Its not uncommon for a craftsmen do drive each day to a construction site in another state for example.
That the EU is funding Intel to come over in part is probably due to strategic concerns I guess, it is a bit problematic if a major trade or other incident cuts the EU off from advanced computing technology. Of course such things aren't free, so one hopes they've balanced the costs well versus the amount of risk mitigated.
I guess this initiative is not only about attracting only one major chip fab for high end nodes, but also it's about growing a future network of suppliers, research and personal, which could eventually could support a genuine european semiconductor industry.
Actually, Germany is very active in semiconductor research, only thing is that most of it is concerned with things such as solar cells and exotic materials.
Don't worry, your pronounciation of the german city names is so good, that I as a German can easily understand them and they are right. Great effort!
Apart from that, I am very proud you made a video about an area I very much identify with. Thank you.
I am very impressed by your research. I live in Magdeburg and most people here don't know half the facts you just presented. Hats off to you sir.
I am seriously considering joining your patreon.
While the employee situation in Dresden is tight, Magdeburg can draw from northern Germany's Universities such as Hannover. H. has an EE material science, manufacturing department and of course general physics too. But Hannover has no demand for semiconductor engineers.
Don't forget Göttingen with a superb Physics and Math Department. And DLR with advanced applied technology.
@@juliane__ Yes,
although I do not believe in "superb" ...
It isn't the place that makes people.
Well, Dresden could also draw from the same sources?
Thanx for making the video its better coverage than most local news outlets.
As a German I absolutley loved this video! Thanks for sharing your perspective and great pronounciation!
Heavy metals are easy to get rid of in used water discharge. They form easy unsolvable salts with sulfides and you treat the rest with Fe(II) ions that form a kind of active carbon effect at pH 9,5. They form a kind of snowflake that has huge surface and binds stuff with it.
The problem is cleaning the soils from heavy metals. it's a big problem, especially in eastern Germany. Often it is needed to carve out the soil to treat properly.
Thats true. Id even say inorganic polutions in general are easy to get rid of in water.
Are you studying chemestry in the second semester? :)
Compared to other countries, Germany is so small that it doesn't matter where you build your factory and eastern Germany is still pretty cheap. You can get skilled workers not only from Germany but especially from eastern european countries like Poland to Romania, where technical jobs are still more popular for young students then in western Europe.
Point is, you need a backbone of skilled worker from the Semiconductor-Industry to run such a hugh new factory. And for Germany, you can find these people only in Dresden.
I am from Magdeburg and it's a really appriciated thing at least for me and the people i know. I Study Cumputer science here in Magdeburg and i am born here. I really hope this will help our region and also make the EU less dependent on Asian Tech wich may be a big factor in the near future.
Not necessarily a decoupling, of course.
Commercialization of newer chipmaking processes should be top priority.
German here (obviously ^^), the pronunciation of the Colbitz Letzlinger Heide and Westfläming was actually pretty good!
My grandma used to live close to Magdeburg. I learned something new about the city from your video, and you going through all the aspects of chip manufacturing and social/environmental linkages is just great.
Also, take a look at Otto von Guericke in the comment below from Daniel Bamberger.
While it's not the topic of your channel, just think about how frustrating it is for people living in a place where inventors such as von Guericke (but also Zeiss in Jena....) pushed forward science, while nowadays being de-industrialized due to exactly the history you laid it. It is extremely satisfying to see this heal.
Re: the purpose of having a Fab here, isn't it just attractive for the EU to be less dependent on imports from overseas sites? I'd say this is the main rationale of the Fab subsidies
My grandma actually lived in one of the demolished cityblocks!
I'm sorry.
Wie isses euch ergangen? Hat sie damals Hilfe bekommen, ich hoffs.. müssen schlimme Zeiten gewesen sein damals
Die liebsten Grüße
as a citizen of Magdeburg I can confirm that it is a very well researched video. 👍 10/10
I live in Germany and I plan to study engineering, probably something with semiconductors, next year. This fab might be my future work space, which is really exciting. A problem I see, however, is the water situation and the car problem as shown by the huge parking space. I try to save the environment with my actions so both seem not that great.
Water from the Elbe is similiar to that in Dresden. This simplifies purification equip and removes need to install new testing stations downstream as the water is tightly monitored already because of the Dresden fab..
I guess that was one of reasons to deploy new fab along same river - it simply cuts costs .
Ad transport - This is dead German city, with loads of disciplined people. Any extra local company paying taxes will create public transport .
I hope that besides public transport and bicycle network they will also build "bicycle highways" shared with lightweight microcar infrastructure, as usually there is this "middle shelf" system missing, adding annoyance as it is colder climate city.
@@piotrcurious1131 didn't think about your first point, seems logical.
Sure, we can hope that happens, but I don't see any bus stop or bike lanes/parking in the render of the fab. Things can and will change, it is, however, not a great sign.
@@NutellaToastOW i think the render of the fab is just stock photo. Building such a fab takes like 5 years and i bet there will be social consulting meetups in the city council to integrate it , esp it seems it will be flagship industry of the city and any infrastructure for workers will get double use for tourism too.
@@piotrcurious1131 Yeah that's true, I'll stay conservatively optimistic. I might think about those details too much in such early state of building the fab.
@@NutellaToastOW I think the render is mainly for a US audience, and the marketing department simply had to create a render of a factory that projects the idea of "many new jobs created".
Still, as is seen with the Tesla/Grünheide, it may be a struggle to get all of this into harmony.
On the water topc, the waterpiplines and supply were build for 500k citizen pre second world war, when the population peaked at 380k.
The current 230k citizen only use half of the capacity.
So with your 80k per factory, we have 230k+160k = 390k water demand, which gives 110k water reserve for new citizen and other companies, before the area has to add new pipelines into the water market.
Great Video!
As a resident of the Town, i wanna give you a kind but important hint:
Its called 'Mug'-deburg
People here could get grumpy if you pronounce it the wrong way😅
I'm living in Magdeburg and am glad to see an international channel making a video about my city :D
Asianometry doing a analysis about my home state. 🧐
Now I‘m interested.
1:25 Small correction about the status of Berlin: The city was divided and West Berlin simply belonged to West Germany, and East Berlin was part of Eastern Germany
I live in Magdeburg. It's one of the driest regions in Germany already. We have been in drought since 2018. I'm really afraid of the future and whether we'll have enough affordable water and food.
I'm active in a local community garden and we're parched. We need to water with tap water, because it doesn't rain enough. We even decided against trying to bore a well, because the groundwater is probably gone anyway.
The Elbe often has low water.
I don't even want to know how much area is going to be sealed again for this thing.
I wish they would at least TRY to make the building eco-friendly. But I doubt it. :(
The green spaces are being reduced, which takes away living space from local wildlife that had to flee the countryside because they are being poisoned and made homeless there.
And we also aren't a "capital of culture". We APPLIED for that title, but weren't granted it. While there are a few theaters and an opera house, independent and sub-cultural projects are often underfunded or shut down.
Erinnerst du dich an die schlimme Überschwemmung vor ein paar Jahren? Das wär bestimmt nich so schlimm geworden, wenn die Elbe im Normalfall mehr Wasser führen würde.. Ich befürchte die nächste Überschwemmung (wann auch immer die sein mag) wird noch extremer, so ausgetrocknet wie momentan alles is..
@@reedasreh3621 2013, ja, ich erinnere mich daran.
Aber ich weiß nicht, ob man das jetzt direkt auf Trockenheit zurückführen kann.
2012 und 2013 hatten wird nämlich gar keine Dürre im Raum Magdeburg.
2012 gab es Dürre im nördlichen Bayern, BaWü und eventuell Thüringen, aber dort fließt die Elbe ja nicht lang.
(Quelle: Die Dürrekarten der letzten Jahre des UFZ)
This is really great content, doesn’t matter if it’s Asia or not. You’re always informative and also entertaining!
Sometime soon you and Techtechpotato need to collaborate it is almost destiny at this point
yes please!
Pretty good pronunciation! By Californian or Israel standards water and traffic won't be a problem at all. Intel will have to clean its waste water very thoroughly, though.
Magdeburg recieves less rainfall than Tel Aviv and just a bit more than Santa Clara - yet evaporation might be not as high due to higher latitude.
Magdeburg is a totally underrated. Living quality is high and living is cheap.
Intel surprised everybody in Magdeburg. Interestingly, the OvGU has scuttled it's semiconductor manufacturing in the last years.
Alas, wages are also really low in Magdeburg.
Another major reason why Intel chosed Magdeburg, was the central location to huge Customers. Tesla´s Gigafactory lies around 130km east, VW Headquarter lies around 100km west and Leipzig also has a big BMW and PORSCHE factory, that both lie about 100km south. Furthermore, they are all easily reachable by cars/trucks via Autobahn and also by train or even ship, because of the canal in the north of Magdeburg.
FUNFACT - BMW first wanted to settle down in Magdeburg, the same space that was planned for them was now promised to Intel.. crazy right?^^
Great video. As a German, I'm really excited about Intel's new plant in Magdeburg.
Great Video - as always :-) Thank you
Highly appreciate your video, especially as a Magdeburg citizen! Research well done!
Love how the entirety of Magdeburg decided to pull up to appreciate this video lol. Tysm for putting in the effort.
- a Magdeburger
As a German I have to say . Thank you for this video!
The currency exchange is not what made eastern German industry uncompetitive, it was already extremely uncompetitive in the global market. The Ostmark was worth less than a fifth of the Westmark before. The exchange was therefore a massive, unprecedented subsidy to east Germans. Imagine your liquid wealth going up 5 fold just like that.
The alternative would have been to let us live in poverty with a growing economy, which would have the same effect of bleeding the country dry, since no one wants to work the same job for much less money than in the west.
If Korea ever unifies, the north will become a ghost town, and probably never recover in population
after some time east Germany turned to what west germany could never have again - nature and tourism.
Industry is not everything and it transforms cities and landscapes forever.
Look up how well tourist resorts in the east Germany fare - with horse farms, ski resorts, permaculture farms, spa cities.
Certainly not a "ghost cities" esp. after rebuilding of cities like Dresden, which get almost quarter of tourist turnover of Prague.
North Korea has huge touristic potential too, and will sure serve for overcrowded and overindustrialised south Korea. North Korea has beautiful mountain ranges which are attractive to visit both for Koreans and Chineese.
Also for people from europe or america it would be much easier to start sightseeing Korea starting from smaller, traditional settlements in the north, where they can get some idea about history, culture and nature, before being thrown i to some crazy place like Seoul and getting culture shock.
@@piotrcurious1131 Dude, im a Dresdener, the city is rich and vibrant. Tourism is not a major industry.
That doesn't change the fact that in the early 90s, 30 years ago, there was a massive exodus of people and industry. My argument is that that industry was artificially kept alive by corrupt socialist planners and not competitive in a market. The downturn couldn't have been avoided if the people did not recieve the subsidy.
You can draw parallels with North Korea, except it would be much worse, since the economic differrence is mindboggling. The only economies that can live off tourism are tiny local areas.
@@CjqNslXUcM Like Bavaria or Florence?😃
I live near Dresden and if you consider it "vibrant" then you should really travel more.
I do not say Dresden is all bad, but like You say, it only survived thanks to huge subsidies as s city.
Big problem after socialism was that it left everything polluted, overpopulated and in debt.
Tourism is sure not main defining industry of Dresden, but it is significant part of it.
It is generally impossible to expect failed states like eastern Germany to survive after collapse of communism by themselves, without subsidies , thanks to some cargo cult project like industry or tourism, yet it helps to define the sustainable future and potential of the place . Afterall after one or two generations of depopulation and subsidies goal is to reach stable state.
Thats ture ... things like a (world)war can flip things that grew for decades upside down.
I see the same thing happen in Ukraine btw. because until the very recent past eastern Uraine was the industrialized and wealthy part but now there was and is the most fighting there and people migrated to the western part.
as someone who live there this is a solid video about the past of the city and the reunification of both parts
All the germans coming out of the woodwork
Otto von Guericke was not just a politician, he is sometimes called inventor of vacuum, because he made experiments with vacuum pumps and also other scientific work.
As a person living my whole life in Magdeburg, I can say that I‘m super proud 💖 Super interesting video, thank you!
I love how you said Guericke 🤣
It will be a HUGE success for Intel r&d and production within 10-12 yrs.
I suspect that car park is from some US designers template. X number of people Y number of cars. Even the Berlin Tesla factory ended up with decent public transport .
I come from Magdeburg and I very liked your video 👍
Never thought that someone would talk about Magdeburg haha. I was born and live in Magdeburg :>
Speaking of Dresden, Global Foundry is certainly there. However, Infineon (world's largest power semiconductor manufacturer) and Bosch have much larger fabs in Dresden. Certainly worth mentioning.
15:25 the tram there looks so much like those in my hometown Darmstadt
R&D will be in France though.
I am really looking forward to Intel coming to our city! Your history on Magdeburg is very correct, I know bc my grandpa worked at SKET as a young man before he made himself selfemployed. This city really suffered during war times, a lot of very old and historical buildings were destroyed, sadly only a few stand to this day. Magdeburg used to be a giant thriving city and capital of the kingdom from Otto the Great in the 10th century.
Sadly that is almost everything that Magdeburg has to offer: history - but not much left of it to impress.
I hope that when Intel comes here, they bring our city out of the shadows again so that people will know this city again and we are not forgotten anymore, as we are now..
Thank you really much for this video! I am grateful that people are interessted in this topic and maybe soon young people will start to stay here or even come to work here from other parts od Germany. I will always stay here, because I love this city will all its flaws and all its beauty (nice pick of pictures btw. I was so happy to see the effort you put into researching^^)
From CV Wedgwood "The Thirty Years War":
"When Christian William was reinstated in his episcopal chair, a flight of ravens wheeled screeching over the town, and in the angry sunsets of succeeding nights strange armies fought among the clouds, while under the lurid reflections of the sky the Elbe ran blood-red. Europe applauded the splendid defiance, but at Magdedburg the people sulked, quarrelled and obstructed their defenders."
Great Video. Greetings from Magdeburg
Fun fuct: The Microtechnology specialisation of the mentioned Master's program at Magdeburg University is not offered in the current year of studies
West Germany did not exactly do a hostile take over of East Germany. It was more of a rescue mission.
I live there and im frigging amazed about that shit. When I‘m done studying that is the #1 place for me to work there.
Great video man! Have you ever visited Magdeburg?
How Come you use X Thausand - Megaliters and not just Gigaliters?
Otherwise really interesting video once again!
Pronunciation Colbitz-Letzlinger Heide was on point!!
I wasn’t expecting to learn this much about a city in the country I live in but now I apparently know more about Magdeburg than my hometown
In one video only 🤣 by the way, are you German? I kind of need information from Germans.
Not to be rude.. but perhaps you should read a bit up on your hometown then :P
@@cek0792 I live in the City:)
@@cek0792 what information do you need?
@@hra4242 I grew up there :)
Your pronunciation of the names was pretty good. Particularly considering that other Asians I met were puzzled about the name of my hometown, which is phonetically as difficult as Kolbitz Letzlinger Heide. The city of Erfurt has it easier. Just think of airport and you are pretty close to pronouncing it.
I'm from Saxony-Anhalt and I had relatives in Magdeburg.
When in Magdeburg: the cathedral is a must-see
Some of the best medieval sculptures can be found there. E.g. the wise and the foolish virgins
ruclips.net/video/o6uso6SgOvk/видео.html
It hosts also the grave of the first Holy Roman Emperor Otto I.
generell auch was noch von der Architektur aus dem Mittelalter da is, sind wir sehr stolz drauf^^
Very good and informative video mate! Keep going like this
Intel is backing away from plans to start construction in the first half of 2023 on a “mega-fab” semiconductor plant in Germany, according to media outlet Volksstimme.
What an awesome summary!
Again: extremely well made!
Cheers!
you have a fantastic delivery. keep up the good work.
Your pronunciations of the german names are actually quite good.
well done video and especially interesting for the facts about water needs in waver production, since Magdeburg region is one of those with the smallest rainfalls within Germany. In the last 3 or 4 years of draught ground water levels dropped dramatically. The Elbe river had such unknown low levels of water that it was not navigable by ships for several months each year.
Three notes to video itself:
The East German Mark were converted 2:1 to the West German Mark in 1990, with exception only small amount per person to soften hardships for poor people.
Otto von Guericke should be pronounceable for two reasons: "otto" ist the city's marketing character and Mayor Otto von Guericke's unique roll as scientiest discovering and describing the effect of air pressure and vacuum.
The Hundertwasser building is called Green Citadel (not Green Cathedral) refering to the cities history of the stronges fortified city of Prussia.
One critical issus was not mention in the video: the position of the facility. Magdeburg is flanked in the West and Southwest by the best arable soil to be found in Germany, often twice or even three times as productive as the fields in the North or East of the city. There of all places between 300 and 500 hectars of untouched fields are reserve for the Intel facility. This would mean an area which is 15 to 25 time larger (!) than the Dresden facilities mentioned in the video. Having this precious soil in mind it was a PR disaster to me presenting the first architectural renderings with gigantic ground-level parking lots - taking up nearly 50% of the project area and illustrating the not sustainable, wasteful approach of soil sealing. This might be the norm in car dependent and extensive North America, but raises eyebrows in dense and environmentally conscious Europe.
Magdeburg do not use any river water, the Elbe was for 100 years a death river and undrinkable.
Magdeburg depends on a water pipeline system, builder pre second world war, and designed for 500k citizen in Magdeburg, when the town were at the population peak with 380k.
At the moment, only 230k people use this waterpiplines for 500k.
There is enough water reservoir connect to the town and region.
@@aqvamarek5316 drinking water for Magdeburg is gained from ground water in the Colbitz Letzlingen heath north of the city. In order to obtain the ground water levels river water is taken from the Ohre river and seeped there. The Ohre river is a tributary river of the Elbe river - harvesting water there does have an effect consequently on the Elbe river, too. This ground water supply from the heath for Magdeburg startet in the 1960's. Before that water came directly from the Elbe river - though it was taken from the East banks of the river, since the highly polutated tributary rivers enter from the West and the river water does not completly mix for a long distance. Magdeburg never, at no time had 380 k inhabitants. The demographic peak was at 330 k in 1939.
@@henningbartels6245 directly from the source
Wichtige Etappen der Entwicklung des Verbundsystems
1932Inbetriebnahme des Wasserwerk (WW) Colbitz mit der ersten Trinkwasserleitung nach Magdeburg
The waterpipline is from 1932, and it was since than, that Magdeburg got independent from Elbe water
1961Bau der zweiten Trinkwasserleitung vom WW Colbitz und des Hochbehälter (HB) Dehmberg
You mean the second expanding in 1961
Im from Magdeburg and we was an important industrial city in the past.The most people in Magdeburg are very exciting and hopeful for the future.Magdeburg growing up to his old size and significancity
In german it calls:"Magdeburger Größenwahn" ;)
I live in the other big city in Sachsen-Anhalt and can confirm: the tab water is the best I‘ve ever drank in Germany.
Especially compared to Hamburger water.. the city I live in now.
Hey, are you German? I kind of have questions to ask for Germans
So you live in Halle right?
Munich's water is also superb
Das gute Heidewasser 😀
Hamburger that lived in Brunswick for 4 years - Harz water is so much better than the mineral sludge we get in Hamburg. I don't know where all the calcium comes from, but I constantly have to descale my kettle now -.-
(Also: there are no big cities in SA, everything under 500K is barely a city ;) and if you can cross it with a bike in under an hour it's not big :P )
You shouldn't worry on doing videos about Europe / USA / etc at all - the modern economy is so globalized, and it doesn't make sense to focus only on one particular country, especially on your analytical level. Maybe you can take a stance "I'm kinda expert in Asian economies because i live here", but you shouldn't apologize and make excuses every time you do a video about Germany or Brazil :)
Funny thing, I've most likely been to that exact same place the deer is standing. It's that famous deer park in Japan, right?
Where you can feed them with food you buy there and poop all over the place :P
Nice to see a video about my home country.
I’d hope the wafer fabs would learn to recycle their water, clean and use.
Thanks for covering!
Me as Magdeburger is very hapoy about the choice from Intel we also speak in the school about it mostly in history because this is a part of the Industrial revolution part 4 I think
I think it's quite tragic that a single foreign company may dictate life and death of your city.
Most of the money will flow into the pockets of those who already have money...
at least they could safe our city from the total collapse..
For all the taxes, etc, I'm quite surprised to hear of the low rent prices in Germany. Really interesting to hear of all of the factors which play into a new fab, I'm quite curious how intel will support the business of 10s of billions of capex, and the cash flow restrictions which ought to be caused by this, with their main customer being themselves.
They still make air separators over in Dessau from what I have read.
Why does Tainan have 3 periods of traffic? Is it morning, school's end, and work's end?
Maybe nightmarket openings :D
"class to the whole thing" If i had tea in my mouth it wouldve spurted
Thanks for this very interesting video. I really hope that this comes to fruition. But I see some pretty strong challenges ahead. There are speculations in some German papers that Intel might be forced to import technical talent from Taiwan and South Korea because of the lack thereof here in Germany. I dont know about that.
A significant challenge will be power and its cost. I somewhat doubt the economic viability of this fab with the current prices of electrical energy and the trajectory they follow for years now (highest in OECD now and rising). Intel might be better off building their own power plant to mitigate this and the growing instability of the German grid.
The German grid is one of the most stable grids in the world.
But most factories this size have their own power plant - more control about prices.
@@Sedna063 I know what you mean, but it was one of the most stable not is. Up until the late 90s it was very stable, but now the energy companies need to regulate the grid several times a day to keep it stable (20 years ago they did that 3 to 4 times a month). With the prioritizing of the so-called renewable energy sources, the grid became ever more unstable.
Maybe Intel will get a permit for an own power plant, but I doubt it.
If you live in Magdeburg and can afford it, buy some property. The values will go way up and you'll have no problem finding tenants. This fab, if it happens will change Magdeburg for good. Lots of construction jobs for a few years. Then lots of jobs with companies supporting the fab. Intel built a fab in my home town in Leixlip, just as I finished college. I got a job with them in 1993, I'm still with them now. Not in Ireland any more, I'm at F42 in Ocotillo. It's going to be a great opportunity for lots of young people in Germany.
Great overview, thanks!!!!!
Is that water usage per water a) how much total new water gets brought in per wafer or b) how much water is cycled through per water? I ask since these facilities have massive water treatment for water recycling. Thanks and great video as always
"Magdeburg had 167k workers in 1990, only 1/2 of them had jobs by 1999" inferring that people left because of a lack of jobs.
I would argue that most people wanted to leave their whole lives and now they could. Pollution and low quality of life being the motivation.
That critique aside, Great video content, research and story board.
Magdeburg has changed a whole lot since 1990, I came here first in '94, didn't like it much at all and left after 5 years. Came back 8 or 9 years ago and really like it.
It's spacious and clean.
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It's all in the respelling
Ahhh yes the true metrics for economical success; McDonald’s, kfc and Starbucks.
That are facts
The Intel FAB should get a public transpüortation connection , if possible the tram
when you said tech tech potato i thought it was stutter rap
Very interesting as Intel is also planning to build a similarly large chip plant in Columbus, OH. I would assume that it is to help support the already booming auto, SUV, & truck manufacturing facilities in central Ohio. Magenburg ( hope that I spelled it right sounds like its a greart place to live. Columbus is getting congested and over crowded.
1hour in the east is Wolfsburg from Magdeburg, the VW (Volkswagen) main factory.
2 hours west is the new Tesla factory.
Into the south, between 1.5 to 2.5 hours, you have BMW, Porsche Factory, the VW electrical main factory, and a OPEL factory.
At the location of BMW/Porsche, there is also the main airport for DHL and Amazon with night transport airplanes in Germany.
Roughly 5 km eastern of the factory, there is with airport more or less private for intel, with one of the longest runways (old.military airport) which can be used day and night.
2 hours into the north, is Hamburg, the main port of Germany, connect with the river Elbe, railroad and highway
@@aqvamarek5316 Sounds like it may support German auto manufacturing. I never knew that auto's, especially their engines, had so many chips in them. The high end cars have the equivalent of a fairly high powered personal computer built into their dash board. At least they do in the Accura (Asian equivalent to a BMW market wise) SUV's where our company is shipping steel parts to.
@@informationcollectionpost3257 yeah, looks like intel wants there share in the new area of car industry.
@@aqvamarek5316 I would say so since most auto chips in the Upper Midwest come out of Texas, not Arizona or California. Therefore, they are probably manufactured from a company called Texas Instruments.
@@aqvamarek5316 the airport you mentioned 5km next to the factory, you mean the Magdeburg one? If so, it wasn´t a military one. Was from the beginning on planned for post, passengers and arial survey, only during the world wars it was taken over by the military, 1950 that was over again (thank goodness!)
And I assure you, its not big xD its tiny tbh.. mostly only flight school and hobby pilots are there
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Just keep making intresting videos irrespective of the fact they are in Asia or not.