Love the review, glad you decided to review it. At 5'-9" and 220 Lbs. I paddle the large and absolutely love it. I have terrible technique but have no problems getting this boat vertical coming out of an eddy. I was between this boat and the Axiom but liked how short the Antix was and had also heard some negative things about the Axiom 9.0. I never got to try the Axiom though. Simply because paddling the Antix just felt right. For a class 2-3 beater like myself it has everything I was looking for and wasn't 9' long...it is a slug though.
Well the beauty of whitewater boats is if you love them enough then you'll get to buy another one when you wear it out lol. If you're satisfied now enjoy it until it is time to see what else has hit the market in a few years.
I’m looking for my first boat, I have a opportunity to buy a medium rewind or a large antix 1.0. I’m 5’11 185 lbs. What Do you think would be the best to start and progress In the sports? Do you think that the antix large would fit well for my size? Thanks for your video!
The L Antix will feel big on you, but the extra width and volume will make some things easier and more predictable if you are looking for a little extra help from your gear. The M Rewind would be a boat you'll be really happy to own down the road if you stick with the sport, but in the near-term it will present some challenges as you grow into it. Given the options I tend to think long-term so I would put you in the Rewind, especially if you are athletic and driven.
@@AlexBarham it does indeed, I was thinking with this comment just a quick written comment with your thoughts and comparison between them. Although a thorough comparison between the current slicey Stern boats and the RPM would be cool. I've never really seen one like that. I personally loved my RPM Maxx but find the large medium ripper easier to do tailees with and just as fast on the Swift water but slower on the flat water
@@drewavan sure: Antix- slower and more beginner friendly. Medium is basically a freeride playboat. Enough stern volume to keep you out of trouble but enough to flirt with disaster seems to have been the goal. Axiom- high performance but middle ground in design philosophy. Ripper- Verticality seemed to be the priority. Big planning hull surfs and helps act as a wing to stay vert. Super long skinny stern with a scoop can bite and bite back if the paddler isn't wary, but if used correctly has minimal resistance and is very fast.
I was thinking once you dropped this review I’d be able to determine if I was going with the Axiom or Antix. You seem to be more excited about the Axiom over the Antix. Is that a fair assumption? I’m sure you can’t be to bias but thanks for all your reviews they have helped me a great deal. Peace
I am absolutely stoked on the Axiom because it is ideal for my weight, style, and rivers. It wedges itself into a sweet spot right in between a lot of the sizes and styles of the other options out there. Right now it is my leading contender for the Grand Canyon this winter. Ultimately my answer is always demo if at all possible and make the right decision for yourself.
Alex Barham we’re the same build and weight from what I have gathered and im paddling similar type runs here in Western MD. I’ve been paddling a Scud and a Overflow for yrs and ready for something between the 2 of them. I’m leaning to the Axiom I feel. I’ll hit that demo and let you know.
Hey Alex, I have a soul funky monkey and I am not sure if you know the boat but my question is more of a half slice boat question. Where would be the best seat position in a half slice for control and stability?
Got one as soon as it came out. Always thought the Jackson Fun series was better. Regardless I am quite anti- river running playboat. Get a full on playboat one size up instead
Love love my Antix. Love a good slicey boat, but was looking for something less slicey than my Necky Zip and something more playful than my Pyranha 9r and Dagger Animas. I totally agree with your review. 100%. It's a great boat and does so much, but does have the super steep creek and play limitations.
This is irrelevant. I never would have bought this anyway. But the new Antix 2.0 looks awesome. Where's your review? Better yet, a comparison video between the antix 2.0 and the Dagger Rewind?
I demoed the small and medium 2.0 this weekend. I am an advanced paddler but no dane jackon. I also weigh 125lbs so much lighter than most people who paddle. I was disappointed in the new design personally. In comparison to the 1.0 small vs 2.0 small it was harder to stern squirt for me. The reason for this was that extra volume hump in the back. I could get the 2.0 half vertical more easily but the 1.0 gets completely vertical more easily because it is not impeded by that hump in the back. I could feel the 2.0 wanting to go vertical but would get pushed back down by that volume hump in the back. Once vertical the 2.0 does balance better. I felt the 2.0 was better for downriver and feels like it can handle some big water no problem and it was faster and more comfortable than the 1.0. For surfing I would give the edge to the 1.0 as well. The 2.0 carves way too aggressively and due to the length will fly off the hole and it it about breaks your arm trying to get it to carve back the other way. The 1.0 also pearls less. I paddled the medium 2.0 for a few minutes and could actually stern squirt it more easily than the small. My guess is the extra surface area on the medium helps with that. But for my weight it just felt like a barge the rest of the way do it wouldn't work for me. The small rewind in comparison to both antixes surfs better, pearls less, and is faster and lighter on its feet. However, I could not get this boat all the way vertical anywhere no matter how hard I tried. . Down river I also didnt like it as much because I prefer shorter boats. The extra rocker also helps is boof better but also makes it shed side to side on big waves when going down river. So it depends on which style of water you want the boat for. Creeks I would go with rewind, downriver big water the 2.0, and downriver play the 1.0. At least for a guy that weighs 125lbs.
I flat love my antix! It is my one boat that can do everything. Super fun
It's a good boat, but I wouldn't say it is great at everything.
Love the review, glad you decided to review it. At 5'-9" and 220 Lbs. I paddle the large and absolutely love it. I have terrible technique but have no problems getting this boat vertical coming out of an eddy. I was between this boat and the Axiom but liked how short the Antix was and had also heard some negative things about the Axiom 9.0. I never got to try the Axiom though. Simply because paddling the Antix just felt right. For a class 2-3 beater like myself it has everything I was looking for and wasn't 9' long...it is a slug though.
Well the beauty of whitewater boats is if you love them enough then you'll get to buy another one when you wear it out lol. If you're satisfied now enjoy it until it is time to see what else has hit the market in a few years.
Exactly! Some pretty exciting stuff has been coming out these past couple years
I’m looking for my first boat, I have a opportunity to buy a medium rewind or a large antix 1.0.
I’m 5’11 185 lbs.
What Do you think would be the best to start and progress In the sports?
Do you think that the antix large would fit well for my size?
Thanks for your video!
The L Antix will feel big on you, but the extra width and volume will make some things easier and more predictable if you are looking for a little extra help from your gear. The M Rewind would be a boat you'll be really happy to own down the road if you stick with the sport, but in the near-term it will present some challenges as you grow into it. Given the options I tend to think long-term so I would put you in the Rewind, especially if you are athletic and driven.
How about a comparison between the antix and ripper. You had a good review on both but whats the difference between the two?
I was thinking once I get all these out maybe I would do annual season recalls and compare what's current in each class. That sound good?
@@AlexBarham it does indeed, I was thinking with this comment just a quick written comment with your thoughts and comparison between them.
Although a thorough comparison between the current slicey Stern boats and the RPM would be cool. I've never really seen one like that.
I personally loved my RPM Maxx but find the large medium ripper easier to do tailees with and just as fast on the Swift water but slower on the flat water
@@drewavan sure:
Antix- slower and more beginner friendly. Medium is basically a freeride playboat. Enough stern volume to keep you out of trouble but enough to flirt with disaster seems to have been the goal.
Axiom- high performance but middle ground in design philosophy.
Ripper- Verticality seemed to be the priority. Big planning hull surfs and helps act as a wing to stay vert. Super long skinny stern with a scoop can bite and bite back if the paddler isn't wary, but if used correctly has minimal resistance and is very fast.
I was thinking once you dropped this review I’d be able to determine if I was going with the Axiom or Antix. You seem to be more excited about the Axiom over the Antix. Is that a fair assumption? I’m sure you can’t be to bias but thanks for all your reviews they have helped me a great deal. Peace
I am absolutely stoked on the Axiom because it is ideal for my weight, style, and rivers. It wedges itself into a sweet spot right in between a lot of the sizes and styles of the other options out there. Right now it is my leading contender for the Grand Canyon this winter.
Ultimately my answer is always demo if at all possible and make the right decision for yourself.
Alex Barham we’re the same build and weight from what I have gathered and im paddling similar type runs here in Western MD. I’ve been paddling a Scud and a Overflow for yrs and ready for something between the 2 of them. I’m leaning to the Axiom I feel. I’ll hit that demo and let you know.
Hey Alex, I have a soul funky monkey and I am not sure if you know the boat but my question is more of a half slice boat question. Where would be the best seat position in a half slice for control and stability?
Very hard to give a general answer to that, but try moving it halfway forward from the stock setting.
Have you ever tried the Wavesport Fuse? Just wondering about down river hull speed and playability.
Got one as soon as it came out. Always thought the Jackson Fun series was better. Regardless I am quite anti- river running playboat. Get a full on playboat one size up instead
Yesssssss finally
Sorry man. Had some computer issues that had to be resolved. Should be able to do a lot more now though
Can you review the Lettmann Manta if you can get hold of one, I had a go and loved it but found the seat unbearable
They look a little rough. You could probably make it work with layers of thin sheet foam
I absolutely will if I can. They are super rare here
Love love my Antix. Love a good slicey boat, but was looking for something less slicey than my Necky Zip and something more playful than my Pyranha 9r and Dagger Animas. I totally agree with your review. 100%. It's a great boat and does so much, but does have the super steep creek and play limitations.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one! Solid quiver with some old schools in there too!
This is irrelevant. I never would have bought this anyway. But the new Antix 2.0 looks awesome. Where's your review? Better yet, a comparison video between the antix 2.0 and the Dagger Rewind?
Patience man. The 2.0 hasn't made it past the inner circle of the JK team yet. Reps won't even get them until late August.
I demoed the small and medium 2.0 this weekend. I am an advanced paddler but no dane jackon. I also weigh 125lbs so much lighter than most people who paddle. I was disappointed in the new design personally. In comparison to the 1.0 small vs 2.0 small it was harder to stern squirt for me. The reason for this was that extra volume hump in the back. I could get the 2.0 half vertical more easily but the 1.0 gets completely vertical more easily because it is not impeded by that hump in the back. I could feel the 2.0 wanting to go vertical but would get pushed back down by that volume hump in the back. Once vertical the 2.0 does balance better. I felt the 2.0 was better for downriver and feels like it can handle some big water no problem and it was faster and more comfortable than the 1.0. For surfing I would give the edge to the 1.0 as well. The 2.0 carves way too aggressively and due to the length will fly off the hole and it it about breaks your arm trying to get it to carve back the other way. The 1.0 also pearls less. I paddled the medium 2.0 for a few minutes and could actually stern squirt it more easily than the small. My guess is the extra surface area on the medium helps with that. But for my weight it just felt like a barge the rest of the way do it wouldn't work for me. The small rewind in comparison to both antixes surfs better, pearls less, and is faster and lighter on its feet. However, I could not get this boat all the way vertical anywhere no matter how hard I tried. . Down river I also didnt like it as much because I prefer shorter boats. The extra rocker also helps is boof better but also makes it shed side to side on big waves when going down river. So it depends on which style of water you want the boat for. Creeks I would go with rewind, downriver big water the 2.0, and downriver play the 1.0. At least for a guy that weighs 125lbs.
everyone needs a chipped tooth. gives a man character. and i really mean that! your my hero thanks for the info. did that happen kayaking?
Lol thanks man
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