Thank you so much for this tutorial! I've gotten better and understanding spacing over time, but this tutorial truly helps me understand the full science of it.
This is very helpful. I love how you always explain why you do this and why you do that, and also I appreciate you give the example of the padding used in the design. I'd love to see more of those real-life example more in-depth in the future, e.g where and when to use 4px padding, visualized in the design. Thanks again!
You’re an example mate! One of the better design channels out there: clean, minimal and very clear instruction videos🔥 Please never stop. On topic: how would you space text blocks? I’m struggling with spacing text elements on a 4pt baseline grid. Don’t know whether to space them from baseline to baseline or do I space them from container border to containerborder? And if I space them from border to border is it better practice to apply leading trim or not? Developers probably have a specific preference in this as well. Thanks a lot in advance mate! Great work💪🏻
Sorry for the late response here! I think this is a case by case basis. I personally don’t bother with leading trim and I always space from container to container. But, every dev is different. For me and my dev framework that would be a pain in the arse. When I’m designing for another dev I always check in with them first if there are any specific things they need me to do. Good practice to get into, makes you look really professional and willing.
Thanks for elaborating on this man! Appreciate it! I think with leading trim you can be precise with the spacing in Figma but like you say you can run into problems in other areas like development. Framer also doesn't seem to have an option for it. So I guess I'll just stick to the old ways of doing as well:) Love your videos man, learning a ton of it! Cheers.@@wearestudiotonic
Hey, @Tonic, this is your first video I watched on your channel. But guess what, I was lost in your contents when I decided to skim through the playlist. I don't even know where to start 😊. I subscribed to learn more from you.❤❤
The reason why multiples of 4 are used is because the number 4 means 'structure' which is evident when you think of geometry the most stable and structurally strong shape is a square with all 4 sides supporting each other, and when you're trying to structure a website or literally anything else, multiples of units of 4 are always going to be the quickest way to layout a website. 3 is unbalanced and means catalyst, 2 means duality which is like a 2-Dimensional design if you use steps of 2, and 5 is also unbalanced meaning change like you can't have a symmetrical 5 sided geometric shape. So you see 4 really is the only choice. I think it's really cool that the synchronicity of 4 being the step of units for structuring websites just so happens to mean 'structure' which is exactly what it's used for in this context.
Some grids layout tutorial in the future? I have problems with lateral sidebar in dashboard webapps, i dont know if apply 12 columns in total frame or 12 in the space after sidebar.
Thanks a lot for the sharing @Tonic! I have 1 question @5:59 : How can i fit the 12 columns with 32px apart into a 1200px width? The column width should be 70.666px in order to fit to that setting. How would you overcome that? Thanks.
40px padding on left and right, 32 px gutter, 12 columns. Content width should be 1120px at that breakpoint assuming you have static and not dynamic resizing.
I`m struggling to reconstruct your grid. 12 columns with a gutter width of 32 px and padding of 120 px left and right I don`t get 1440 px for the page width. This adds up to 1432. Am I missing something? What`s the width of each of your columns?
In future videos are you able to share the Figma file? Your tutorials are extremely helpful to me. I've struggled with the logic behind perfect spacing for web design and this video was a great resource. You do a really good job explaining ideas and topics. Thank you☺💛!
Hey sorry I didn’t actually reply to this. Will have a think about this. Currently working on a web design paid course which will have our Figma file set up in with all the style pages etc.
Sure, this one in particular had 32px gutters. We tend to go for that, 20 or 40 most of the time but I think it really depends on the brand and the look you’re trying to create.
Hi Thanks for your videos, I would like to ask you have you ever used a website as your reference for Typography sizes or spacing? I need to have a website to use it as my guide. Thanks alot
What do you mean by using a website as a reference? When I see a website I like, I inspect the type sizes, measure the gaps and generally try and direct it to see how it was built. I must admit that I do this less now than I used to when I was first learning the skill.
Is that section really "breaking" the column layout tho? I think the whole point is staying true to the 8pt rule. Which is why the space to the left of that text works-it's now relative to its parent container width and not the width of the page (the 12 columns). Pretty good advice overall 😊
This is a very good video. Are there some guides that provide recommended amounts of spacing between sections or between elements inside sections? or maybe some websites that can be used as references?
I believe you should follow the 32px gutter whenever possible, as he did in the video. But if the UX isn't working well, try something organic as he did with that "50% + 80px spacing" container
You completely disregarded the optical correction that we require when you're using the rounded corner. Paddings can't always be the same both top and bottom.
Amazing video but your sound is terrible to the point its painful to listen to. I think its the room, too much eco, you need som sound pads to absorb the sound, are you on a really small room with a lot of windows? Im no expert, at all, my office seems like about the same as yours and its also a problem for me, sony earbuds mic seems to cancel out some of the eco and I think now Adobe as an ai to clean the audio up, might help fix this without the sound proofing of the room.
you're welcome@@wearestudiotonic - the content is great, thank you! Try a lapel mic, or put some towels over the windows while you record, plus the adobe ai software, might fix it while you work on this. Some pads can be put up with that blue tack that does not ruin the walls.
The video is not very usefull. You first create three section with three different paddings but you have nowhere use it. And each section had other vertical spaces so its not whery coding friendly and systematic. Ad the end each time hold your thumb in the air and check wheres the wind comes from….
Okay, this really broke a barrier for me where I was making life hard trying to make EVERY horizontal vector start or end at a column edge. Thank you.
Great vid. Master tip: "It's ok to break the rules sometimes" We all struggle with when it's ok to do that!
Thank you so much for this tutorial! I've gotten better and understanding spacing over time, but this tutorial truly helps me understand the full science of it.
Very well explained, thank you!
This is exactly the type of content I was searching for. Thank you for sharing!
This is very helpful. I love how you always explain why you do this and why you do that, and also I appreciate you give the example of the padding used in the design. I'd love to see more of those real-life example more in-depth in the future, e.g where and when to use 4px padding, visualized in the design. Thanks again!
Really impressed, great work!
This is a really great tutorial. Clearly explained the reasons behind the design decisions. Thank you! Subscribed and please keep it up!
What a video my man, so calm and explanatory, thanks for that (and a big hug from Brazil!!)
This is a very useful video. Thank you. And your design looks pretty cool too!
Haha thank you! 🙏
You’re an example mate! One of the better design channels out there: clean, minimal and very clear instruction videos🔥 Please never stop.
On topic: how would you space text blocks? I’m struggling with spacing text elements on a 4pt baseline grid. Don’t know whether to space them from baseline to baseline or do I space them from container border to containerborder?
And if I space them from border to border is it better practice to apply leading trim or not?
Developers probably have a specific preference in this as well.
Thanks a lot in advance mate! Great work💪🏻
Sorry for the late response here! I think this is a case by case basis. I personally don’t bother with leading trim and I always space from container to container.
But, every dev is different. For me and my dev framework that would be a pain in the arse.
When I’m designing for another dev I always check in with them first if there are any specific things they need me to do. Good practice to get into, makes you look really professional and willing.
Thanks for elaborating on this man! Appreciate it! I think with leading trim you can be precise with the spacing in Figma but like you say you can run into problems in other areas like development. Framer also doesn't seem to have an option for it. So I guess I'll just stick to the old ways of doing as well:) Love your videos man, learning a ton of it! Cheers.@@wearestudiotonic
Finally! The video about spacing makes sense!!! Thank you!!!
Hey, @Tonic, this is your first video I watched on your channel. But guess what, I was lost in your contents when I decided to skim through the playlist.
I don't even know where to start 😊.
I subscribed to learn more from you.❤❤
Finally, that's what I needed 🎉 Thanks
Awesome. You’re welcome!
Wow! Great tutorial. Thank you ❤. Looking forward more tutorials 😊
I really love your videos, keep up the good work
Thanks so much!
Would be cool to see a similar spacing guide for mobile and tablet screens!
The reason why multiples of 4 are used is because the number 4 means 'structure' which is evident when you think of geometry the most stable and structurally strong shape is a square with all 4 sides supporting each other, and when you're trying to structure a website or literally anything else, multiples of units of 4 are always going to be the quickest way to layout a website. 3 is unbalanced and means catalyst, 2 means duality which is like a 2-Dimensional design if you use steps of 2, and 5 is also unbalanced meaning change like you can't have a symmetrical 5 sided geometric shape. So you see 4 really is the only choice. I think it's really cool that the synchronicity of 4 being the step of units for structuring websites just so happens to mean 'structure' which is exactly what it's used for in this context.
so fookin underrated
Using figma for a year and only just realized the shortcut to bump spacing up in 8's. Thanks! very helpful :)
Game changer isn’t it!
We need space
Some grids layout tutorial in the future? I have problems with lateral sidebar in dashboard webapps, i dont know if apply 12 columns in total frame or 12 in the space after sidebar.
Thank you!
Thank you for the content. It helps a lot
You’re welcome, I’m glad it helps!
Thanks a lot for the sharing @Tonic!
I have 1 question @5:59 : How can i fit the 12 columns with 32px apart into a 1200px width? The column width should be 70.666px in order to fit to that setting. How would you overcome that?
Thanks.
40px padding on left and right, 32 px gutter, 12 columns. Content width should be 1120px at that breakpoint assuming you have static and not dynamic resizing.
Great video, lots of free value here I only found from paid courses. Nice work.
This is amazing! Thanks~
I`m struggling to reconstruct your grid. 12 columns with a gutter width of 32 px and padding of 120 px left and right I don`t get 1440 px for the page width. This adds up to 1432. Am I missing something? What`s the width of each of your columns?
I think it's 73px
It shouldn't matter. If you fit everything inside that 1200px container, anything that comes out (as the header) should work out for bigger monitors.
In future videos are you able to share the Figma file? Your tutorials are extremely helpful to me. I've struggled with the logic behind perfect spacing for web design and this video was a great resource. You do a really good job explaining ideas and topics. Thank you☺💛!
Hey sorry I didn’t actually reply to this. Will have a think about this. Currently working on a web design paid course which will have our Figma file set up in with all the style pages etc.
Great video. What about the mobile spacing of the same example? Is there a connection someone should follow for the spacing across breakpoints?
Hey, I’m glad you liked it. This is actually the next video I’m going to record. My new mic arrived today so will get to work on it soon!
Great content!!! Can I ask for the margin size you use for the column lines?
Sure, this one in particular had 32px gutters. We tend to go for that, 20 or 40 most of the time but I think it really depends on the brand and the look you’re trying to create.
Hi Thanks for your videos, I would like to ask you have you ever used a website as your reference for Typography sizes or spacing?
I need to have a website to use it as my guide.
Thanks alot
What do you mean by using a website as a reference? When I see a website I like, I inspect the type sizes, measure the gaps and generally try and direct it to see how it was built. I must admit that I do this less now than I used to when I was first learning the skill.
@@wearestudiotonic Ok thanks for your response So, you don't have a fixed reference, and it can vary from one project to another.
Great video.
Thank you!
Is that section really "breaking" the column layout tho? I think the whole point is staying true to the 8pt rule. Which is why the space to the left of that text works-it's now relative to its parent container width and not the width of the page (the 12 columns).
Pretty good advice overall 😊
thanks!
Pleasure!
Is your cheat sheet available for download somewhere? Thanks for this video, wonderfully explained!
Sorry it’s not no, but you could screenshot it and design your own for a ‘fun’ task? 😃
Can you share that spacing guide
Thanks!
This is a very good video. Are there some guides that provide recommended amounts of spacing between sections or between elements inside sections? or maybe some websites that can be used as references?
I believe you should follow the 32px gutter whenever possible, as he did in the video. But if the UX isn't working well, try something organic as he did with that "50% + 80px spacing" container
what a great video
I can get this figma link
I like color fresh good UI
Can you just tell me where you bought your Tshirt? Please share the link if you have bought online.
lol this is a Cos “classic tee” but I can recommend True Classic brand for a better fit 👌
wow incredibly useful
nice
Hey! Thank you so much, That helps a lot!!
Pleasure! Glad it helped!
Where can I get the cheat sheet? :O
Dope
cool
Space is the final fontier
It really is.
What font is that?
Hey man, it’s called Tenon.
@@wearestudiotonic Thanks very much!
Lol it would have been great to include the cheat sheet in the description
You completely disregarded the optical correction that we require when you're using the rounded corner. Paddings can't always be the same both top and bottom.
Could you please build this in webflow and make a tutorial?
For sure! Good idea. Going to film all the hero design challenges first and then I’ll get onto this one for you.
Amazing video but your sound is terrible to the point its painful to listen to. I think its the room, too much eco, you need som sound pads to absorb the sound, are you on a really small room with a lot of windows? Im no expert, at all, my office seems like about the same as yours and its also a problem for me, sony earbuds mic seems to cancel out some of the eco and I think now Adobe as an ai to clean the audio up, might help fix this without the sound proofing of the room.
Thanks man. Well aware. I can’t put pads up in here but building a garden office so will be upgrading soon.
you're welcome@@wearestudiotonic - the content is great, thank you! Try a lapel mic, or put some towels over the windows while you record, plus the adobe ai software, might fix it while you work on this. Some pads can be put up with that blue tack that does not ruin the walls.
@@wearestudiotonicthen it's your mic settings or recording settings. Or you are not fixing in post.
95% of this problem will be solved by moving the mic close to the mouth.
Thanks, we tried that. Tried lots and lots of things. The latest video from Tom is a lot better with a different kind of mic 👍
video idea: transition this website design to mobile view
Nice, adding it to the content list now!
The video is not very usefull. You first create three section with three different paddings but you have nowhere use it. And each section had other vertical spaces so its not whery coding friendly and systematic. Ad the end each time hold your thumb in the air and check wheres the wind comes from….
Figma file
heavens sake, Get a good mic
lol, well this was a year ago! And we have new mics now 👌 Although the issue isn’t the mic, it’s the room sadly. Working on a new garden office plan.
You've got design down.
Next let's work on your audio.
Very hard to understand you with headphones on.
Currently working on it, that’s why we’ve had a break
thank you
thank you