3 Days on a dinghy

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  • Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
  • In this bumper episode I bumble about on the Norfolk Broads for 3 days, sleeping, cooking and living onboard a 14ft sailing dinghy (a 1976 GP14 named Skismo)
    I learn a few things, discover a few things and have a few more things to add to my 'Things I need for the boat' list!
    Thanks to Hickling Broad Sailing Club for their hospitality and warm welcome. www.hicklingbr...
    Thanks to Jeremy for being my sailing buddy for the 3 days, the perfect host.
    I mentioned another YT channel, go check it out @SailingKateLouise
    Timecodes
    00:00 Welcome
    00:01 Prep gear run through
    05:47 Set off
    09:00 Day 1 lunch stop
    10:20 Day 1 sail to night stop
    14:30 Bad weather starts
    18:13 Coffee break
    18:44 Night stop end of day 1
    21:13 Day 2 morning
    26:00 Day 2 Lunch stop
    27:56 Day 2 Sail to night stop 2
    33:00 How I organise my washing up
    40:00 Day 3 morning
    43:56 13th century church ruin
    46:45 Last leg home
    47:38 My thank you's
    I used a DJI Action Camera (MKI)
    Flexi mount: www.amazon.co....
    Some of the gear onboard:
    Head torch I like because it remembers the state when last turned off: www.amazon.co....
    Waterproof phone case: www.amazon.co....
    Inflatable pilllow: www.amazon.co....
    A solar power bank (That I would NOT recommend to anybody!) but it's all I have for now.
    The Go System gas burner conversion kit: www.amazon.co....
    Collapsable washing up bowl: www.amazon.co....
    Portable toilet: www.amazon.co....
    Solar lantern: www.amazon.co....

Комментарии • 114

  • @ames477
    @ames477 17 дней назад +1

    thanks for taking me (us) along. Very peaceful. Glad the weather worked out! I'm planning a similar trip on a Peep Hen (14' also) WITH a friend (talk about tight quarters) on a part of the Chesapeake Bay this May and will use many of your tips and thoughts. Cheers.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  17 дней назад

      Thanks for watching and glad you found it useful. Your Chesapeake adventure sounds great 👍

  • @jimbojet8728
    @jimbojet8728 10 месяцев назад +1

    My pet hate, us hearing overnight campers saying, ‘oh I forgot this, or forgot to fetch that’, not once did you say it. You had all the kit you needed and no more, to be as comfortable as you could be, carry out all the ‘household’ tasks you’d expect to. You showed it’s really quite easily done. I’ve never seen that part of U.K. and don’t sail, but I just might get there on my bike. I do enjoy a bit of bike packing. Thanks for an enjoyable vid.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you, and thanks for watching. I did write a checklist of items needed for various different scenarios, like just sailing or sail camping or sleeping on the boat etc., that certainly helps 🤓⛵️

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@sailingskismo I keep an exhaustive list, but it doesn't stop me forgetting to get the food out of the fridge before I walk out the door!
      I've taken to putting the car keys in the fridge with the food just to stop me riding off without it in the morning when I leave home!!

  • @andrewwild9312
    @andrewwild9312 11 месяцев назад +2

    Seeing your GP14 takes me back! I had a full wooden GP14 in sunny Manchester where I sailed her at the local club on lakes around Bury and Blackburn. Then oddly enough you then sail past what looks like a Pandora 21 (12mins in) which was the next boat I owned in North Wales! Lovely to see the simple side of sailing again. Being on the water is being on the water! I'm currently in New Zealand enjoying boats of a slightly larger size. Great video and thanks for bringing us along!

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching! I too have a fully wooden GP14, it is STILL in a state of restoration though and probably will be for quite some time. The new season is dawning and hopefully I can share more adventures with you 😊

  • @boxer75010
    @boxer75010 Год назад +8

    I really enjoyed this video, thank you for taking the time and trouble to make it. As someone who is new to dinghy cruising, I learned a lot. And on a technical note, your camera angles are interesting - from above, from the boom, etc. Lastly, thank you for not adding any music; a refreshing change.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Thank you, very kind. Glad you enjoyed. :)

    • @kabuti2839
      @kabuti2839 Год назад

      yes, no 'music' is great!

  • @SailingKateLouise
    @SailingKateLouise Год назад +5

    Thanks Simon, I've never been to the Norfolk Broads, really enjoyed it. I loved the church and I will have to try your banana and cinnamon porridge, cheers Paul

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +1

      Thank you Paul. My food options are limited as I [ should ] follow a FODMAP diet having developed a bunch of food intolerances. It’s not easy! Thanks for watching.

    • @MandolinSunrise
      @MandolinSunrise Год назад +1

      Oh, this is confusing. I’m another Simon who usually eats banana porridge with cinnamon. 😂 (I sail at Priory Park, Bedford)

  • @coalfieldbeelovergerald3687
    @coalfieldbeelovergerald3687 Год назад +3

    Just found your sailing channel here. I’m a U.S. West Coast (Puget Sound) sailor.. it’s so different but interesting seeing a rather different waterway of rivers, channels n so on. So peaceful n scenic too.
    I do follow Paul “downunder in Australia in those large saltwater lakes there too. But hopefully now cruise video wise with you.
    At this time in life (age 78 yrs) I’m my sweetheart’s full time caregiver so my Monty 17’ is currently out of water until life changes so enjoy you, Paul, Roger n a couple other.
    Cheers n thanks for the Gorgous trip.
    Nick.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Thank you so much for your comment, very kind. I’m sorry to hear of your situation and I hope it improves for you. I will keep doing my best to document my trips of which there are plans for next season. All the best.

  • @John-je7mi
    @John-je7mi Год назад +2

    I live in th USA and I had a GP14, some of the best sailing of my lifetime. Thanks for the video. GP 14 " Miss Nancy"

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Sounds great, thanks for watching. Where is Miss Nancy now and what was the sail number? 🤓

  • @skeating2818
    @skeating2818 Год назад +1

    Thanks for sharing your cruising log. This is the kind of camp cruising that is low impact and high experience.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment, Happy New Year!

  • @SlowlySailing-lc1cs
    @SlowlySailing-lc1cs Год назад +1

    Enjoying the atmosphere... and I like all your ingenious solutions for dinghy camping.

  • @christeague7596
    @christeague7596 5 месяцев назад +1

    What a beautiful little video....really enjoyed it.....more....more...please

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you very much, I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching:)

  • @giovanni7467
    @giovanni7467 5 месяцев назад

    21.57 look at the sky!
    They are destroiyng everywhere.

  • @MandolinSunrise
    @MandolinSunrise Год назад +2

    Great vid, very enjoyable thanks. (Cinnamon’s great, I make big pots of apple and lemon peel jam that are added to everything).

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Thank you for watching and commenting :)

  • @awalk5177
    @awalk5177 7 месяцев назад +1

    Wonderful video. I had forgotten how quiet and peaceful sailing is in this form. My GP14 has been unattended for about 15 years and I am just about to start restoring it.
    Maybe I am too old to sail it now, but never the less, a good boat is always worth restoring.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, this form of sailing certainly ‘flicks my switch’. I’d say you’re never too old!

    • @SmallSailboatCruising
      @SmallSailboatCruising 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@awalk5177 Want to grow younger? Go sailing. 😀

  • @jameskemp6439
    @jameskemp6439 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for your excellent vidio
    I hope to get a tent fitted to my 17 ft half Decker so I can sail further and stay overnight.
    The way you organised and stored the hear gave me some good tips.
    Enjoy your sailing next summer.
    That boat of yours really is fast.😊

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  3 месяца назад

      @@jameskemp6439 Sounds great, it can become quite addictive. Thanks for watching. I will now go and research a “half decker”. 🤓

  • @Steve_Flight_Planes
    @Steve_Flight_Planes Год назад +4

    So relaxing watching you Simon. Looks very peaceful and at one with nature.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video 🤓

  • @jimmysqueezyronin5623
    @jimmysqueezyronin5623 Год назад +3

    Excellent 👍 enjoyed this one

  • @SmallSailboatCruising
    @SmallSailboatCruising 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video. Very tranquil and relaxing footage. I’m looking forward to checking out some of your other videos. Cheers Chris @small sailboat cruising.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@SmallSailboatCruising Thank you Chris, thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy some of the other content. :)

  • @mikeu5380
    @mikeu5380 Год назад +4

    So wonderful to sail along with you and Skismo, this time through the Broads. I particularly like how you channeled Paul (Sailing Kate Louise), and how your thoughts on dinghy cruising brought to mind Roger Barnes. Thank you so much for your generosity in sharing these trips with us, and I look forward to the next one!

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +2

      Thank you for such kind and supportive words, very much appreciated. I’m pleased the videos are being watched and appreciated by like minded people, it’s a pleasure to make them. 🤓⛵️

    • @Joburgbass
      @Joburgbass 5 месяцев назад +1

      Paul and Kate Louise indeed. 😁 - this ‘ Look how I sail, eat and sleep on my little boat’ format is really great fun to watch… we should give it an official name… let me offer: Dinghy Drift and Dine ( with hat tip to my friend GT Patch. )

  • @pottery1950
    @pottery1950 Год назад +1

    I enjoyed getting to see every day tasks being handled with grace. Thanks!

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Thank you very much, and thanks for watching, much appreciated. :)

  • @simonwells2213
    @simonwells2213 7 месяцев назад +1

    We're looking at setting up two Wayfarers for a trip to Scotland next year. We're starting to plan early so we can budget, for space in diaries and gather boats an kit. We're planning on tent camping rather than boat, there will be 3 per boat, so space is going to be fun. So after years of racing, it'll be great to cruise instead. Enjoyed the video. Thank you.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  7 месяцев назад

      @@simonwells2213 good timing! I’ve just returned from Scotland having spent 8 days on mine, living aboard for 8 days. Video will be out soon- ish. Dinghy cruising is quite special in my opinion. 🤓

  • @knucker4931
    @knucker4931 Год назад +2

    A great little film. Thank you for taking us with you. Very interesting to see some of the kit you use and how you use it. The washing up section definitely had value as a 'how I do this in a confined space' piece.
    Thanks again.
    Al

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +1

      Thanks, I’m glad it was useful. I wasn’t sure if I should include it as it’s a bit like telling people how to suck eggs ( as the saying goes ) Thank you for watching, much appreciated. 🤓

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman 5 месяцев назад +1

    There were many many more people living in Norfolk in the past.
    The black death led to the demise of entire villages.
    Then the opening up of the American prairies collapsed the price Norfolk farmers could get for their grain.
    Consequently there are many abandoned churches standing in groves of trees in wheat fields. I remember climbing the belfry of one such church in the late 1960s.

  • @DinghyCruisingTrim
    @DinghyCruisingTrim Год назад +1

    Great stuff Simon. Not a messy boat at all, a well organised adventurer.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Thanks Josh, glad you enjoyed :) Thanks as always for watching :)

  • @roberteastwood9886
    @roberteastwood9886 6 месяцев назад +1

    I was really interested in the domestic details, so thank you!

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  6 месяцев назад

      You're welcome and thank you for watching :)

  • @geoffreyshepherd5874
    @geoffreyshepherd5874 Год назад +1

    First time on your site absolutely loved. I like the simplicity of dinghy cruising and especially the idea of getting no where fast. The Norfolk broads are a wonderful peaceful place and I hope to be sailing there myself soon. Keep the videos coming best wishes Geoff.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Thankyou Geoff, that’s very kind of you to mention. I will do my best 🤓

  • @tukaopaleye8582
    @tukaopaleye8582 Год назад +1

    Great Video! The broads is also one of my favourite sailing grounds. I appreciate seeing how you do the washing up. Thanks

  • @OldJong
    @OldJong Год назад +1

    What a trip and what a fascinating place! I enjoyed this video all the way! 🙂

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +1

      Thankyou, glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching 🤓

    • @OldJong
      @OldJong Год назад

      I also suscribed to your channel. I love your sailing style. 🙂@@sailingskismo

  • @harper5892
    @harper5892 8 месяцев назад +1

    A map would have been nice.🙂

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman 5 месяцев назад

      Yes, or some links to places on google maps in the drop down below the video?

  • @andypandy955
    @andypandy955 8 месяцев назад

    The army caul it admin looking after your gear and keeping yourself clean very important.

  • @johnriley5844
    @johnriley5844 Год назад +1

    I really enjoyed that! What a great setup you have. Thank you.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Thankyou John, very kind. Glad you enjoyed and yes I’m quite pleased with my set up. Still got a bit to go but one step at a time ey? :)

  • @olivei2484
    @olivei2484 Год назад +1

    Seeing how you quoted Paul ( S/V Kate Louise) I had to subscribe. Looking forward to the library.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +1

      Thanks very much :) much appreciated

    • @olivei2484
      @olivei2484 Год назад +1

      Found the sove your using, but what is the Al frame thingy around it?

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +1

      @@olivei2484 I think you’re referring to the stove but the “AI thingy around it” has thrown me?

    • @olivei2484
      @olivei2484 Год назад

      @@sailingskismo I figured it out, its a Trangia 25 Stove, its very nice.

  • @joewilliams5396
    @joewilliams5396 Год назад +1

    Thanks it was very enjoyable to watch.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Thanks, very kind of you to say and I'm glad you enjoyed it :) Thanks for watching.

  • @pikethree
    @pikethree 8 месяцев назад

    Peaceful and interesting, thank you. Had me on amazon throughout, first thing was that mast float.

  • @lesleyforsythe5389
    @lesleyforsythe5389 5 месяцев назад +1

    Really love your boat where are you exactly

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks, I love my boat too! 🤓 I’m based in the SW of the UK

  • @Irishherbs
    @Irishherbs 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great to see your adventure.Thank you.Looking fwd to getting my gp14 on the water.Did you make or buy your boom tent? and sleeping hammock? Happy sailing.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  8 месяцев назад

      Hi Christian, thank you for watching. I do use my Genoa, if there are times I don’t use it it is probably because I’ve got the camera pointing forwards and don’t want to block the view. I made the boom tent ( that was a learning curve! ) and my bed is an off-the-shelf camp bed, slightly modified to fit the boat. There is another video all about the bed and how I made it fit. 🤓

  • @robertbiegler4815
    @robertbiegler4815 Год назад +1

    Oil spills are often broken up with detergents, and I read that the detergents may do more harm than the oil. Therefore I prefer to wash up without detergent when I can't have the washing up water go through a treatment plant, and delay washing up with detergent until I am home.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching, much appreciated. That’s a very good point you make, in hindsight I should have emptied my bowl in the field next to me or just used boiling water to sterilise instead.

  • @jimbojet8728
    @jimbojet8728 10 месяцев назад

    I think a large fishing umbrella would be very useful for you. You could hold it as you go along if it wasn’t too windy, and you’d certainly have some shelter at a lunch stop? Just a thought. Thanks for the vid.

    • @stevec-b6214
      @stevec-b6214 9 месяцев назад

      Agreed, I will be taking one on my next trip. I am also a fan of the poncho, quick to put on/off for showery weather

  • @Johnreed28
    @Johnreed28 Год назад +1

    Great film squire, thoroughly enjoyed yr content. Hoping to get out both on broads and Poole harbour next year. Keep em coming!!!

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +2

      Thank you John, you will enjoy both locations and I will try to keep them flowing. 2 more are lined up ready to go and I’ve just returned from a week’s sailing which should yield 3 more! Thanks for watching and commenting, much appreciated. 🤓

  • @jonfisher9214
    @jonfisher9214 Год назад

    Trangia's won't soot if you dilute the methylated spirits with 10% water. Great video. I used to sail a GP14 on the Orwell back in the 1980's.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Good tip, thanks for watching. More multi-day adventures planned for this year.

  • @mariajosemorenoguerrero8638
    @mariajosemorenoguerrero8638 11 месяцев назад +1

    Anda...the W.C...??!

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  11 месяцев назад +2

      Good question 🤓 The wc is either the centreboard casing slot for the easy stuff or I have a collapsible bivvy loo for the more complicated stuff 😬

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman 5 месяцев назад

      Now, the centreboard slot! Why didn't I think of that!

  • @philj3727
    @philj3727 Год назад +1

    Hi, loved it and subscribed. Intrigued by the camp bed ... what make was that? Also do mind saying what the cost of the week's membership of Hickling S.C. was and do you still need a licence on top of that? Cheers 😊

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +1

      Hi Phil, thanks for watching, much appreciated. Yes you do still need to pay the broads authority to put a craft on the water there. I believe my week’s temp. Membership was £30 and the broads authority stickers cost another £27 ish. . Hope that helps:)

    • @philj3727
      @philj3727 Год назад

      Hi, yes it does thanks. Is the camp bed mentioned in an earlier vid, i'm thinking it might just fit in my boat.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +1

      Sorry forgot to answer that bit. Bed details in this video… ruclips.net/video/pO51YNyrS9E/видео.html&feature=sharea

  • @matthysuys9084
    @matthysuys9084 Год назад

    Hi Simon!
    Can you tell me more about your boat please? Where was it build? I sail a GP14 like yours but have no info on the builder (suspect it’s from Zimbabwe). Do you have a video maybe?

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Hi, Why do you think it is from Zimbabwe? And do I have a video on what? Thanks for watching.

  • @TrumpAndKamila
    @TrumpAndKamila Год назад +1

    Hi from Sydney. The broads look so beautiful. Do all the boats have center boards etc? How deep are the canals/ broads ? Cheers

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +1

      Hi, the broads themselves are quite shallow and can be problematic for deep keel boats. The rivers in between the broads offer deeper channels but are still only about 4m deep in places. Most smaller boats have centreboards that can be retracted. I have witnessed fixed keel boats get stranded as a result of going outside of the buoyed channels. It is an amazing playground though for nautical types 🤓 Thanks for watching.

    • @TrumpAndKamila
      @TrumpAndKamila Год назад

      Are the broads man mad? What's the tidal range? do they have locks
      @@sailingskismo

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      @@TrumpAndKamila the broads are man made, a very long time ago and they do eventually connect with the East coast so the tides affect the areas closer to the coastline, further inland not so much. Tidal range near the coast can be up to 2m, further inland it is barely noticeable.

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@TrumpAndKamilathey were formed by cutting peat for fuel. Norfolk is flat as a pancake with rich "clay with flints" soil.
      The meandering streams were widened to help drain the soil in the surrounding wheat fields and the Broads were originally pockets of marshland called "carr" landscape that was excavated by hand for peat.
      The rivers are dotted with largely disused windmills.
      Wheat from the surrounding fields would be ground and bagged.
      The flour could then be shipped out along the canalised rivers on gaff rigged Norfolk punt barges to London or even across to Europe.

  • @Paul-ou1rx
    @Paul-ou1rx Год назад +1

    I had no idea people sailed on rivers that small.

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      They certainly offer a specific kind of challenge over large lakes and open water spaces! 🤓 Thanks for watching.

  • @fraserwhite73
    @fraserwhite73 Год назад

    Morning, can I ask an odd question? I’ve recently purchased a similar GRP GP 14 and am starting to fit her out for cruising. Can I ask how long your oars are 😂 I’ve found some on eBay but it’s hard to gauge how long they need to be. Appreciate your insight and thanks for the great videos

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +1

      Hi, thanks for watching :) My Oars are 7'6" and fit nicely under the foredeck/above the buoyancy tank. If I were fitting out again I would opt for an 8 foot oar. The 7'6" suits me perfectly for rowing but I feel they are 6" too short for skulling. Hope that helps :)

    • @robertbiegler4815
      @robertbiegler4815 Год назад

      John C. Harris published a formula for oar length (Wooden Boat #240) that, he says, matches a wide variety of boats that row well.
      Length in inches = (Beam at oarlocks + freeboard at oarlocks + 9) * 1.34
      Length in cm = (Beam at oarlocks + freeboard at oarlocks + 9*2.54) * 1.34
      Shaw & Tenney suggest a formula that ignores freeboard and recommends slightly shorter oars which gives what they consider the ideal ratio of lengths inboard and outboard of the oarlock of 7:18
      Length in inches = (Beam at oarlocks/2 + 2) * 25/7
      Length in cm = (Beam at oarlocks/2 + 5) * 25/7
      As far as I remember, neither of them say whether you should adjust for spoon blades versus long, thin blades, and if yes, to which kind of oar their formula applies.

  • @paulgibson7848
    @paulgibson7848 Год назад

    What do you use for rowlocks? Where are they please

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +1

      I have plastic rowlocks but I am changing to metal ones. I had to row against an F5 a few weeks ago and the plastic ones couldn’t cope. It’s probably easier to show where they are by watching my cruising dinghy set up video. But a quick answer is - I sat in the boat on the thwart and held the oars where they were comfortable for me and then marked the freeboard where the row locks needed to be. I then cut a thick piece of hardwood to use as a weight spreader underneath the freeboard and fitted the rowlocks. Hope that helps.

  • @nicholascarter2640
    @nicholascarter2640 Год назад +1

    Whats the cooker make?

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад +3

      The cooker is a Trangia spirit stove but with a gas burner conversion. The box it sits in is home-made. Thanks for watching 🤓⛵️

    • @wandererdinghysailingchann6917
      @wandererdinghysailingchann6917 Год назад +1

      Enjoyed that a lot.
      Personally I would get rid of at least half the stuff you have on the boat,ensuring that you have a safe clear deck.😁😁

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  Год назад

      Thanks for watching, much appreciated :) @@wandererdinghysailingchann6917

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@wandererdinghysailingchann6917I've moved into dinghy cruising from ultralight backpacking.
      I look on agog at all the gear dinghy cruisers use!

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'm not really sure I want to know, but a "bivvy loo"?

    • @sailingskismo
      @sailingskismo  5 месяцев назад

      Ha!, probably best if I just send a link to one 😊 amzn.eu/d/cV3rlLb

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@sailingskismo ooh er! Thanks.
      I use my rugged hard rubber bucket for that!
      I don't suppose chucking anything over board is really acceptable in fresh water conditions!