What I find frustrating about a lot of smartphone reviews is how almost all review all phones as 1) needing to be for everyone, 2) must work like an iphone, and 3) that the Xperia camera system is so complicated. It would be the same as if car reviewers talked about an SUV, a sports car, and a minivan as all being for the same general audience, market and type of person. And expecting all different cars designed and engineered for a different customer to work in the same way. I think Sony knows exactly who they made this phone for. And I think it's a bit dishonest to simply call it a niche market in the sense that while it is a niche...it's also a fairly sizable one. Last time I checked there are millions of professional, prosumer, and hobbyist photographers out there. Who like and want manual control, natural looking pics, and a camera like experience. There's a reason millions of cameras 📸 are still sold each year. If anything I would argue it's a shrewd move to target that market. Not to mention the growing market for content creators. I think it's perfectly fine to make a phone for a certain type of person. Iphones are already made for the average person that knows little about photography and thus need the phone to do all of the work. Also, I think that Sony is deliberately going a different way with their camera system. They are focusing on what they do well. It's very difficult to be better than someone who already does what they do well. It's best to focus on your own strengths. Sony is never going to out iphone Apple. They already are good at making iphones. So it's a smart move for Sony to instead differentiate themselves and do what they do well. And I can't understand why so many reviewers have difficulty with the idea of a different approach. Again....the car analogy. An iphone or Galaxy camera system largely does the work for the person (and that's perfectly fine for a lot of people. Maybe most people) and is like an automatic luxury sedan. It's comfortable and does most of the work for you. The Sony Xperia by comparison is more like a manual sports car. It's a bit more tricky to operate, has a learning curve and requires some effort from you but you can push it more than a sedan and is more fun. Is it for everyone?.....no. But there is no shortage of people who love a manual sports car. I have had the Sony Xperia 1 mark ii for about a year and a half now and I am no camera guru nor tech guru and yet I was able to figure out the manual control apps in a day. I think a lot of reviewers do a disservice to a lot of people in assuming that no one can figure anything out and that every phone must dumb every part of it's function down to the lowest common denominator. I think a LOT of tech consumers are much smarter than that. After a year and a half of use I have found the camera system to be pretty good. In the sense that it gives me what I want. Full manual control and natural looking pictures. I had gotten into photography about three years ago and after having Samsungs and an iphone I was frustrated with the limitations of smartphones as well as the oversaturated colours of the phones I had been using and the phone essentially doing all the work. I frankly found the Xperia a bit of a revelation. It actually made me want to go out and take pictures because it makes me feel creative because I can use the total manual control to get exactly the look I want. If anything it's been a great practice at learning manual control before I buy a full frame mirrorless camera.
I've learned a lot about shutter speed from shooting with in manual modes over the years it actually made switching or using a traditional mirrorless much easier
Sony has always been in a leader in technology. Just that general population doesn't adapt. Japan came out with the mini disk, the laser disk. Sony auto tech came out with the Hydrogen car. They keep changing the game. I hope people can adopt this tech before its really gone.
I thought this video review a bit confusing for this particular phone model. This phone is targeted at AV professionals and not the normal consumers. Both because of its feature set/ technical software and its price tag. So, I don't see why be critical of its lack of ease of use given whose Sony's target buyers for this phone are I can understand criticism from the AV professional of professional controls and how they may use it but not from the normal consumer. That's like criticizing Sony's flagship alpha mirrorless camera because they didn't put a big red super easy to see AUTO button on it. Btw, I don't own this phone. But I know who it is for. Also, full manual is somewhat of a misnomer since it only has two physical apertures settings. It's more like a semi-manual control since the sensitivity and the shutter will have to be adjusted by the processor based on the aperture setting
I don't understand why ppl said this phone is not targeted for mass consumer and only targeted the professionals. That's not true. Every phone is targeted for mass consumer
Sony most definitely is giving you everything all in 1 phone.. there are people who love to dive in the manual modes I just feel like certain tech reviewers and there clones tech reviewers is just making sure Apple and Samsung is the only 2 phone company in the U.S which it's basically there already. No more competition. Smh
@@kevinhan721 of course it's not. Try letting the average consumer use the Xperia Pro-i and trust me they will scratch their heads trying to figure out how to use it n will not like the picture quality. I own this phone myself and i'm doing photography for a living. One day i was at a family gathering n i needed some1 to take our picture so i called one of my relative to help me and i saw him taking quite a while looking at the phone before snapping the picture. He seriously look lost and wasn't even impressed with the picture, FYI he uses basic mode with the floating shutter. 😂. Then he asked me "damn why did u buy a crappy phone that takes horrible image? My old Samsung Note 10 can take better picture than this". 😂. I just looked at him,smile and i said "it's ok coz a lot of people hate this phone except for people like me coz it's meant for us" lol.
You see, that's the problem man, you're using the camera like you would use on any other phone and that's not the point of PRO-I. The sensors and the camera applications allows you to achieve quality that you can't achieve on other cameras because they lack these controls. This is specially true in low light situations. If only you're aware of this and knows what settings to change (you can just experiment for a few minutes to figure out) than you can change quality from night to day. Of course this doesn't makes sense for those who want the "pixel experience', but this isn't what Sony is trying to deliver. And because tubers that actually do test what these phones are able are very rare the vicious circle continues.
People who would use these feature are also very rare. For most people, they would want to take quick shots, and for that, other high end phones would win. While for pros who are willing to take 5-10 mins to set up, they’d just use their dslr or mirrorless. There’s really almost no proper target audience who would utilize this phone. Plus, the 1 inch sensor is a gimmick, they are only using the center with an area almost just as big as sensors from other phones. The widest aperture is f2 which is worse than say the iphone 13 pro or pixel 6. So hardwarewise, it’s not actually better. It actually gathers less light than the iphone (taken from tony northrup vid). To get equally good shots in low light, you’d have to take longer and more stable shots. The manual controls though, are definitely great. But basically if people aren’t setting up tripods to use their phones with, the pro-i isn’t really for them, and who does that? If a photographer will bring a tripod, he’d definitely bring a proper camera.
@@kean4582 "While for pros who are willing to take 5-10 mins to set up" See, this is the problem. You don't need to be a "pro", you just need to know the phone you purchased! It takes no more than a few seconds, knowing what this camera allows you do do you can change the settings in instants naturally because you're always thinking ahead. And even when you use all setting son auto, because of the goals of this phone you have some advantages that others don't. The real time focus tracking actually works. When people actually use the focus capabilities on this phone it's actually unbeatable on those scenarios where focus is essential. That variable aperture isn't a gimmick. F2 is good enough (aperture is relative to sensor size) and the point is to have a smaller aperture anyway. The convenience to step down the aperture is an ever more essential feature that's missing on today's phones with big sensors. People are really conditioned by all the "propaganda" that insists X and Y and Z way is better that they are often blind to what their eyes are seeing. While this phone lacks the computational photography that most became used, no one noticed how excellent the video capture shown here is? At least during the day, not at the night because of the reasons I previously mentioned. With the right combination of framerate an shutter angle night videos on this phone can look as nice as the ones during the day (hard to believe but isn't far from the truth). And again, it doesn't take 5-10 minutes, it's just a matter of touching a single option with your finger, and even less, because of those projects format that this phone uses. It's just as hard as it yes to select night mode, the eraser mode, the panorama, the HDR, the slowmotion, etc, on other phones.
@@deathdoor if people are just handholding this, even with the right settings, it mostly is worse than other high end phones because it has worse iso, aperture and the 1 inch sensor isn’t fully utilized (it almost gets only half the light than an iphone 13 in its widest settings). Check Tony Northrup’s vid about this, it’ll only gonna be better on a tripod and doings edits after. Variable aperture is an extra feature but who’s gonna use f4 anyway? Phones with small sensor struggles more on low light, so why even use a higher aperture? Yes you can adjust your controls as perfect as possible, but you really are limited to its hardware. And again to match others iso and aperture, it needs to adjust on the shutter speed, which has side effects if only done handheld. For video, its even farther down the ranking than its photography because of worse computational photography (worse dynamic range) and stability. And thats the thing, if non pro’s are gonna use it, they’d just pick a samsung, pixel or an iphone. And with that price, they can even get an entry level apsc with those phones.
@@kean4582 See what I mean? You're questioning the variable aperture not understanding how and WHEN it could useful. You're repeated much of that "propaganda" I keep mentioning citing other phones with "bigger sensors", "wider apertures", etc. Of course, you're always limited buy the hardware, but hardware is not enough, the software is equally as important. Curiously enough you recognize this when you mention all the others doing "computational photography". Why can't you then recognize the good parts of the software on the Xperias? Like I mentioned those controls allows you to do a few things that you can't easily do and not with the same quality on other phones. There's one video that shows what I'm trying to say. Search "Xperia 1ii vs iPhone 12 Pro CAMERA TEST!" bu the channel "James Lavish". It's nice to be able to just point and shoot and rely on the "computational" algorithms, but on most phones the result can be a bit too artificial, with that old "HDR Look". And these algorithms and lack of controls actually prevents you from photography in certain ways, it's also limiting as you can see on that video.
Yes you can do that but many of those you tubers dont mention that becourse they are to lazy they just want it as easy as possible i say thay becourse i have the Xperia Pro-I.
Evidently this Sony Xperia Pro-I was designed for the Sony enthusiasts who's familiar with Sony's photography products and want to have a professional camera on hand without always having to take along the the primary Sony studio gear from home. Users that don't understand photography settings should probably just stick to the iPhone or something, but hope this helps 👍
Their optimization for speed and multimedia is phenomenal, their hardware is top-notch and their camera optimization is not the best, so they are like "Here are the tools to destroy the competition but figure things out yourself.". 🤷🏻
This helps. The person I want this for HATES the auto settings on most phones. She is really good at dialing in a good style, so pro use, and not just vlogs
It's a 1.0-type sensor, not 1 inch. As usual a reviewer don't understand what Sony is trying too do. There are reasons for why the whole 1.0-type sensor only used 60% the lense. It's too close. It's not software it's hardware. Sony probably didn't think people wanted a huge camera bump on the back and therefore compromised.
Buddy, the whole footage looks amazing. This is phone is a game changer with that video vlog set up. I am sure many companies will start copying. Than people will think that APPLE invented it. I think SONY deserves more credit.
The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone. If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them.
Wow, this after all is the company behind the (Sony) Clie! the most complicated digital device (from the future at the time) that nobody could use without reading a 300 page manual. This device seems to be truly tailored for the pro users, so it's not really meant for anything "auto" by default lol. Having said that, I strongly believe this is one of the rare devices worth it's price premium. Huge respects to Sony, for being the one smartphone maker that doesn't insult user's intelligence. Thanks for the review!
The only improvements I want to see on the new Xperia 1 IV is better front cameras, louder speakers (sideways if they want to go full volume) and better auto/manual combo. As much as Sony want to turn the Xperia into a camera, they need to learn the limitations exists and they can't fully expect hardware to overcome limitations without fully acknowledging software prowess. I'm not expecting an iPhone, Samsung or Pixel experience but I do expect Sony to improve the basics. I do enjoy Sony phones and hope to see then do better.
@@Justgambleit Please don't that would be the biggest blunder ever. The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
Your review is simply designed for amateurs. Professional filmmakers love using Sony. I have an Xperia 1 II, and with the exception of overheating, I love using the phone tremendously. You are the type who shouldn't be using this type of phone whatsoever.
First of all instead of buying this overpriced trash just get a DSLR boom problem solve! The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone. If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them. If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
@@samdottori yeah, cause is not an iphone. The point is, this is not a phone for everybody. If you are part of the mainstream, those are the kind of phone you avoid cause you dont understand a crap of it. Sorry, ruthless but honest.
@@oreziopancrazio3685 if i am looking at this video how can i be a mainstream/i phone person.... You are honest... Just honestly rude, not honest, I have a xiaomi redmi note pro 11 just now and i was looking at this phone as a possible upgrade, but it looks it's very good on the camera side, but not so good for other aspects like the overheating.... If you want to tell me why is so good for you, tell me, instead of insulting...
I still want it. Not going to get the most out of it because I can only see myself using those features sometimes but I still want this phone because when I want to use features like that, it'll be nice to have on hand.
I have the Xperia 1II and i love it! When they announce this i was like "i should have waited"! I am not a fan of cut outs and punch holes. Its just not my taste. I really the design of this phone too.
Niche market? How did you even forget to mention that you can go straight from ANY recording device (go pro, insta 360 etc), plug it directly into the phone's micro SD slot, which by the way NO other flagship phone is offering, do a quick edit and splatter it all over your social media. Literally the entire world is doing that these days! This implies that all I need on a trackday is my Go Pro and this phone. Upload footage on the very same day, share it between all of my race buddies, without having to spend hours transferring, editing, and uploading! Quite excited to get this!
No-no, not another bias video again? "But, but to be honest?" This entire video is a setup all the way, a Sony bash masqueraded as a review. I feel you placed Sony on a pedestal, only to flatter and possibly trash it. Every single compliments resolved in flattery; besides I feel this review is a bit late, there are way much better reviews out there; beside isn't this video review a bit late to the party? It's 2022 already. I recommend anyone to definitely get more opinions on this. I applaud you for the work it took to figure the phone; however, you aimed it in wrong direction and left it incomplete with many half truths. Those of us who actually daily drive it, think otherwise. How about those thin bezels, that keep focus on the screen and many more. It's like you could give it full credit for anything without taking back. I would add that, although this may not be for everyone, Sony has other viable options, such as the Xperia 1 III or 5 for even smaller form factor; as the Pro-i was geared towards those who want a little more, although not limited to. Guys the there's nothing wrong with the phone. I'm not really sure what the purpose of this video is, other than to make it seem less desirable. Generally, products made in Japan cost more, perhaps due to labor but there's an unmatched quality associated with that too. There is nothing trivial about it it. This video makes more sense when applied to this review, rather than the product absolutely. I couldn't take anything away from this video, other than features being conditional and problematic about it. I conclude, that many folks are actually grateful for this iteration of a product, and in addition photography, is more about being in control; not the other way around. Those cons you mentioned, are by no means a weakness. This phone is simply, way above average and for those are willing to be creative. I am afraid this video is contentious to be the least inspirational review, IMHO. Does anyone else catch that? It's such a, far from candid rhetoric. It was a hard listen in, to be honest. So yes, please check the format. That was your first problem, because if you did format it, you would see how it measures up to the competition. Sony actually leads the way.
The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone. If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them. If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
I think you could buy a fully professional camera with the same price. As much as I would love to have this phone, I just won't, I can get like everything in this phone on other high end smartphones with way less of the cost, and if the aim is to photograph/filmmake stuff I would rather invest in something real, like a DSLR or a mirrorless. it's very sad that such a great quality products can never be convenient to must people.
Comparing the Pro-I to a camera is a tough comparison because a camera is designed solely for shooting photos and videos. In contrast, the Pro-I is a complete media tool. I would compare the Pro-I to an iPhone instead. I use my iPhone 14 Pro on a daily basis to edit short clips and publish video content for TikTok and IG Reels. Both platforms' ideal video frame is vertical which is very troublesome to film on a camera as most tools are not designed for vertical filming. things like gimbal and button placement. The main problem I faced with the iPhone 14 Pro was the battery life and memory space. Tho there is iCloud which automatically syncs videos to the cloud. I can't use it on the go as the battery life spent and data taken is too heavy for 4k 60 fps videos even when I'm on a 5G connection. Delete videos on the iPhone does not instantly increase the space on the iPhone. stupidly frustrating when I have to film back-to-back basketball games in 1 day and the only way to save the files on the alternative devices would be to use airdrop to transfer the files which might get an error if the file size is too huge. The Pro-I have a MicroSD slot which can be used for video enthusiast to swap out immediately if the storage is full and transferring files to an iPad or Laptop through a micro-SD card is faster and more convenient than using Airdrop. Not to mention the ability to film in 4k 120 fps as compared to the iPhone 4k 60 fps. Still, it does not resolve the battery life issue I have with my iPhone 14 Pro. Seeing that the Video monitor is attached through a USB C, Not sure if it can be both charged by a power bank and still connected to the video monitor. Similarly to my iPhone if I use a power bank, I can't use an external mic at the same time.
Sony Fan here. Thank you for your thorough review. Question: If I have a Type C to HDMI cord, can I connect Xperia Pro I to any device for external display? Ex. Sony Portable projector?
Let's be honest though I use program or manual mode for photos 98 percent of the time with my Xperia PRO-I... I don't even use the jpegs, but video I still need to learn a bit more and use so I use auto mode on video pro... Or I will set the shutter speed and let it set iso... Just takes a little bit of learning and it becomes quite nice...
Let's be honest, the biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone. If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them. If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them.
Sounds like you're just an iPhone fan, reviewing none iPhone phones from an iPhone fan boys perspective. Tbh a bunch of your complaints are easily fixable by you switching back to iPhone.
You do need to understand, that regular people will simply just not choose Sony since Sony wouldn't be able to compete in terms of pricing. Why make phones to focus on the market that don't have Sony in their consideration?
Didn't hear one mention of the sound quality or microphone set up and performance in different conditions. Obviously, can hear some of the difference between phone and studio mic which isn't too favourable but why does no review ever mention audio quality when taking video?!
I have the S21 ultra and I'm honestly thinking about upgrading to this phone how many people would recommend this? Only thing I don't like is outerbox doesn't make cases for Sony and I can't find a case with a charging port cover.
Do not downgrade to an overpriced trash my friend. The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone. If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them. If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
@@basicallytroll2705 I already tryed to upgrade to this Sony lucky for me there was no finance available under my phone service so it was hay give us $1800 or keep what you got. I love my s21 ultra so I stuck with it I think the individualized cameras on the s22 ultra looks dumb expechaley in a case so I don't want that I'm hoping the 23 looks better or I'll just keep this one guess I'm paying extra into a upgrade package for no reason lol
"Full manual everything": tools at your exposure to create great, and unique media. "Machine Gun Full Auto Mode": average consumer...which is literally, the largest cohort. Take it for what you will.
Such a strange comment to make at the end. " Only those with a real Pro-I would actually be the people who enjoy the Xperia pro-I"🤔... How would they enjoy it if they don't own it ?? Of course owners of it enjoy it.. its a great phone. I was almost put off by reviews like this. Luckily I found a few reviews by photography enthusiasts and found a different story. This phone is designed for people that enjoy "photography" on a mobile phone not for everyday take out of pocket aim and shoot. Im not saying that other phones cant take good photos but if you like a more realistic photography experience the Pro-I is a great phone with great image quality. I love waking around with a tripod, composing , dailing in my settings and getting the best image i can iut of this camera. I own a few cameras but I enjoy trying to get the best out of this thing , its fun. Anyway thats my two cents worth. May not be perfect as no phone is but Im very happy with mine.
This reminds me of the Samsung Galaxy K Zoom. I know they had a phone like that before but I forgot it’s name, there were too many different Galaxies back then to remember :)
How is this phone for regular use. I bought the s22 plus last year after my note 20 ultra went into a coma for a day. And honestly i miss my expandable memory.
And everyone makes a big deal about the 1 inch sensor. I saw that you can only get the full benefit if it using one lens. I love my Samsung Galaxy S9 plus. It has a faster aperture than the Sony Experia Pro I. I was surprised to see that. My phone is 3 years old and costs a lot less.
I think the Vlog LCD is overpriced and another additional battery drain. I use a mirror accessory that mounts on a cold shoe clamp and it works just as well. I own the Xperia Pro-I and I love it as it gives me full manual control over my photos and video. Most important of all it has the headphone jack!
@5:56 I don't understand the complaint. There is too much in manual options for a non informed user but you also used it successfully in auto mode mostly?
In an ideal world, this phone could be the camera reference for all mobile phones. You pay much more than on a 13 pro and a S21U or double of a Pixel 6 Pro price and you should expect the best results for that money. How do they manage to produce mid-range photos and videos with this device each year is unbelievable. Is like the management ignores all the feedback from the users, amazing and sad at the same time. Sony fan here...
totally agree, I can never understand the approach they are aiming for. if we take samsung for an example, they would produce a good concept and completely miss it up in the first generation, but they will keep improving it until the product actually competes, and gets a fir share of the market or at least convenient to buy. With Sony they will just cut the product off, or change their approach completely, leading in a big loss of interest from consumers. it's just that it feels like they are going in to the same directions of HTC and LG, which is not good
this was meant to be pa enthusiast phone where the camera is meant to be manually adjusted watch Juan Bagnel video on this you would understand and it wokrs for them it sells well actually
Just because you own the best camera, it won’t make you the best photographer lol. Ur buying a manual camera control phone, learn how to take pictures lol, it’s not rocket science. Since the public is obsessed with camera, why not learn ? If it then buy iPhones lol… if I want my phone to be like iPhone or Samsung, why will I buy Sony?
"You're probably going to put the interface into auto mode..." How about an honest review. Since I don't REALLY know how to use this, I'm going to do a review assuming you're like me. This is an enthusiast level phone and people are here for a reason. Give your audience some credit.
I like the idea of this phone, I would like to ask you to test it on a telescope, if you can? Maybe take some shots of the moon. Some things that interest me is the remote controls and additional screen. Is it possible to control the focus and features without having to touch the screen? Cheers
The iPhone is like the teacher in a nursery school. It doesn't let you do anything as you wish "because it's not right and safe for you". Apple thinks you're stupid and gives you no freedom at all. Sony mobiles on the other hand are the definition of "Hey, I provide you with a tool bro! I give you the ability to CREATE things as you wish by yourself. This is YOUR device". The same goes for repairing as well.
To the reviewer: it's a PRO phone. It says so in the name. I've got the Experia 5 IV and with a little effort, it'll take the best photos you've ever seen on a phone.
the presenter is missing the point. Real video makers control the light and aperture and ISO. This camera is for those people, not for an amateur who wants to auto-shoot. Just like the alpha series, not many people would buy it.
Détecteur d'empreinte fonctionne quant il veut ...🤔 Temps de charge pas ultra rapide ( 1h50mins ) Photos au rdv très appréciables ( de vraies photos, mais peut mieux faire rien de transcendant...)
You obviously are not a pro photographer so this phone is not for you...its for me, I would never ever think about putting this thing i auto mode. The advantage of this system is not how many pixels, its the advanced focusing system, the focus area available on the sensor, the phone operating system, the aspherical glass lens of the 24mm. Go get an iPhone or S21 buddy, leave this for the real shooters.
You do know others also has full manual mode? AND better cameras to go with it. But for this price I would rather get a dedicated pro camera and not a phone that tries soooo hard but does not quite get there. The real shooters use a pro camera and not a semi-pro phone...
@@Oystein87 I also own the S21 Ultra, its crap compared to this and as for pro cameras my Q2 is in the $5000 range and lens for my A1 are way past what you consider a pro camera. If you can't make money with your cameras I understand the constraints, go buy what is being made for you.
@@webdesign6776 Saying the S22 Ultra etc is crap compared to this is a joke🤣 I would take that over the Sony most days. If you would not use it with auto mode then this is the wrong camera.. You should get a real camera instead of a phone camera with all the disadvantages it has if you are serious about photo. Nothing comes close.
@@Oystein87 Sure they have. But can you use manual mode on the other cameras like telephoto? Exactly. Sony allows manual and RAW capability on ALL of its cameras
I think Sony has some fundamental confusion. Why make a vlog monitor when they can just include a higher quality front facing camera? Why completely focus on manual adjustment and not have any AI option even on basic mode? Because if you have to make so many adjustments and have a tripod to get a decent low light photo, might as well just do it with a real camera and get even better results. I support them for continuing to give consumers hardware that other manufacturers have forgotten, but I’d be lying if I said other phones and other cameras on those phones, along with the execution, isn’t better. Samsung S21 shooting in ExpertRAW produces great, natural looking results too, so you can’t even argue for Sony on that “natural” aspect anymore.
Perhaps they would do such with the next model, but for now a lot of us prioritize those thin bezels, uninterrupted look; "mama mia! mua!!" I give Sony tons of bonus points for that and don't mind the lower res on the front facing. Everyone else seems to be struggling with the their front facing camera placement, and bio metric fingerprint sensor too. At least they gave a solution which destroys competition. It's a balancing act, as with most things in life. I think in the long run they end up catering to many groups, as opposed to having an all in one device. I remember they had a VCR which had everything you could think of, but it crumbled as a result. We can always find reason to like or dislike anything, I think this has more of the likes than dislikes if you care to add up the features. It's load with the hardware, and somewhat software too; there a few app you wont be seeing any where soon. As far as AI, that's software, and can be added at future updates. You can't say so with hardware. If you wait long enough, they'll meet your needs. I know I waited ten years, and they seem to have met a fair number of my check boxes.... Yes there are many great phones out there, which is why this shouldn't be a problem yeah? Yes the Samsung S line up and notes series are all respectable. Both of my Parents have Samsung phone, and I'm so happy for them. They take great photos and share with the family. I am blown away by their photos, at times. But this is different, it isn't for them and I wont recommend it to them. I will give them Samsung all day or even iPhone, I know they will be well taken care off. Some things are better experienced than explained. Cheers!!.
@@stevensonnwokenkwo3281 The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone. If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them. If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
This this is just bogus. They gave u a manual ""option"" n u complained abt it. Computational aspect is as best as it can get for this smartphone, see their intro video.
Sony's delusional fan base is given on the XBOX vs PS thing, but even in the smartphone market?? 😂🤡 The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
Love josh, this is kinda bad. Obviously a person that would normally shoot auto is going to opt for auto? Why would they be buying the phone if not for the camera software? Why do we want everything to just do all of the work for us?
I have been using it for 3 months in a hot country like Singapore, you would never do a proper vlog on this machine as it has an extreme overheating problem. No matter what settings you have optimized, you can not continuously shoot for over 10 mins at 4k or even downgrading to 1080p 30fps
What NONE of the reviewers mention is the atrocious Xperia System update process. Sony could learn a thing or two had they really 'studied' the competition. Huge disappointment ... considering the Price Point.
Just get a god damn DSLR boom problem solve, no need to get this overpriced trash. The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone. If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them. If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
Just get a DSLR over this overpriced hardware then BOOM problem solved. The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone. If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them. If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
What I find frustrating about a lot of smartphone reviews is how almost all review all phones as 1) needing to be for everyone, 2) must work like an iphone, and 3) that the Xperia camera system is so complicated. It would be the same as if car reviewers talked about an SUV, a sports car, and a minivan as all being for the same general audience, market and type of person. And expecting all different cars designed and engineered for a different customer to work in the same way.
I think Sony knows exactly who they made this phone for. And I think it's a bit dishonest to simply call it a niche market in the sense that while it is a niche...it's also a fairly sizable one. Last time I checked there are millions of professional, prosumer, and hobbyist photographers out there. Who like and want manual control, natural looking pics, and a camera like experience. There's a reason millions of cameras 📸 are still sold each year. If anything I would argue it's a shrewd move to target that market. Not to mention the growing market for content creators. I think it's perfectly fine to make a phone for a certain type of person. Iphones are already made for the average person that knows little about photography and thus need the phone to do all of the work.
Also, I think that Sony is deliberately going a different way with their camera system. They are focusing on what they do well. It's very difficult to be better than someone who already does what they do well. It's best to focus on your own strengths. Sony is never going to out iphone Apple. They already are good at making iphones. So it's a smart move for Sony to instead differentiate themselves and do what they do well. And I can't understand why so many reviewers have difficulty with the idea of a different approach. Again....the car analogy. An iphone or Galaxy camera system largely does the work for the person (and that's perfectly fine for a lot of people. Maybe most people) and is like an automatic luxury sedan. It's comfortable and does most of the work for you. The Sony Xperia by comparison is more like a manual sports car. It's a bit more tricky to operate, has a learning curve and requires some effort from you but you can push it more than a sedan and is more fun. Is it for everyone?.....no. But there is no shortage of people who love a manual sports car.
I have had the Sony Xperia 1 mark ii for about a year and a half now and I am no camera guru nor tech guru and yet I was able to figure out the manual control apps in a day. I think a lot of reviewers do a disservice to a lot of people in assuming that no one can figure anything out and that every phone must dumb every part of it's function down to the lowest common denominator. I think a LOT of tech consumers are much smarter than that.
After a year and a half of use I have found the camera system to be pretty good. In the sense that it gives me what I want. Full manual control and natural looking pictures. I had gotten into photography about three years ago and after having Samsungs and an iphone I was frustrated with the limitations of smartphones as well as the oversaturated colours of the phones I had been using and the phone essentially doing all the work. I frankly found the Xperia a bit of a revelation. It actually made me want to go out and take pictures because it makes me feel creative because I can use the total manual control to get exactly the look I want. If anything it's been a great practice at learning manual control before I buy a full frame mirrorless camera.
I've learned a lot about shutter speed from shooting with in manual modes over the years it actually made switching or using a traditional mirrorless much easier
@@hubbardfan same here
Sony has always been in a leader in technology. Just that general population doesn't adapt. Japan came out with the mini disk, the laser disk. Sony auto tech came out with the Hydrogen car. They keep changing the game. I hope people can adopt this tech before its really gone.
totally agree with you!
So true, like they’re not look at it from Sony’s POV at all.
The design is amazing, no stupid holes no nothing. And the rear is unique too :)
If you want to use a TV controller like phone that is impossible to use with one hand...
@@jimking81 yeah don't like it's so tall
@@jimking81 same can be said with basically every other flagship phones today. They are all big.
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@@jimking81 It's smaller than most flagships nowadays, so it's actually easier to use one handed
I thought this video review a bit confusing for this particular phone model. This phone is targeted at AV professionals and not the normal consumers. Both because of its feature set/ technical software and its price tag. So, I don't see why be critical of its lack of ease of use given whose Sony's target buyers for this phone are I can understand criticism from the AV professional of professional controls and how they may use it but not from the normal consumer. That's like criticizing Sony's flagship alpha mirrorless camera because they didn't put a big red super easy to see AUTO button on it.
Btw, I don't own this phone. But I know who it is for. Also, full manual is somewhat of a misnomer since it only has two physical apertures settings. It's more like a semi-manual control since the sensitivity and the shutter will have to be adjusted by the processor based on the aperture setting
I don't understand why ppl said this phone is not targeted for mass consumer and only targeted the professionals. That's not true. Every phone is targeted for mass consumer
Sony most definitely is giving you everything all in 1 phone.. there are people who love to dive in the manual modes
I just feel like certain tech reviewers and there clones tech reviewers is just making sure Apple and Samsung is the only 2 phone company in the U.S which it's basically there already. No more competition. Smh
@@kevinhan721 not it's not
@@kevinhan721 of course it's not. Try letting the average consumer use the Xperia Pro-i and trust me they will scratch their heads trying to figure out how to use it n will not like the picture quality. I own this phone myself and i'm doing photography for a living. One day i was at a family gathering n i needed some1 to take our picture so i called one of my relative to help me and i saw him taking quite a while looking at the phone before snapping the picture. He seriously look lost and wasn't even impressed with the picture, FYI he uses basic mode with the floating shutter. 😂. Then he asked me "damn why did u buy a crappy phone that takes horrible image? My old Samsung Note 10 can take better picture than this". 😂. I just looked at him,smile and i said "it's ok coz a lot of people hate this phone except for people like me coz it's meant for us" lol.
The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
You see, that's the problem man, you're using the camera like you would use on any other phone and that's not the point of PRO-I. The sensors and the camera applications allows you to achieve quality that you can't achieve on other cameras because they lack these controls. This is specially true in low light situations. If only you're aware of this and knows what settings to change (you can just experiment for a few minutes to figure out) than you can change quality from night to day.
Of course this doesn't makes sense for those who want the "pixel experience', but this isn't what Sony is trying to deliver. And because tubers that actually do test what these phones are able are very rare the vicious circle continues.
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People who would use these feature are also very rare. For most people, they would want to take quick shots, and for that, other high end phones would win. While for pros who are willing to take 5-10 mins to set up, they’d just use their dslr or mirrorless. There’s really almost no proper target audience who would utilize this phone. Plus, the 1 inch sensor is a gimmick, they are only using the center with an area almost just as big as sensors from other phones. The widest aperture is f2 which is worse than say the iphone 13 pro or pixel 6. So hardwarewise, it’s not actually better. It actually gathers less light than the iphone (taken from tony northrup vid). To get
equally good shots in low light, you’d have to take longer and more stable shots. The manual controls though, are definitely great. But basically if people aren’t setting up tripods to use their phones with, the pro-i isn’t really for them, and who does that? If a photographer will bring a tripod, he’d definitely bring a proper camera.
@@kean4582 "While for pros who are willing to take 5-10 mins to set up"
See, this is the problem. You don't need to be a "pro", you just need to know the phone you purchased! It takes no more than a few seconds, knowing what this camera allows you do do you can change the settings in instants naturally because you're always thinking ahead. And even when you use all setting son auto, because of the goals of this phone you have some advantages that others don't. The real time focus tracking actually works. When people actually use the focus capabilities on this phone it's actually unbeatable on those scenarios where focus is essential.
That variable aperture isn't a gimmick. F2 is good enough (aperture is relative to sensor size) and the point is to have a smaller aperture anyway. The convenience to step down the aperture is an ever more essential feature that's missing on today's phones with big sensors.
People are really conditioned by all the "propaganda" that insists X and Y and Z way is better that they are often blind to what their eyes are seeing. While this phone lacks the computational photography that most became used, no one noticed how excellent the video capture shown here is? At least during the day, not at the night because of the reasons I previously mentioned. With the right combination of framerate an shutter angle night videos on this phone can look as nice as the ones during the day (hard to believe but isn't far from the truth). And again, it doesn't take 5-10 minutes, it's just a matter of touching a single option with your finger, and even less, because of those projects format that this phone uses.
It's just as hard as it yes to select night mode, the eraser mode, the panorama, the HDR, the slowmotion, etc, on other phones.
@@deathdoor if people are just handholding this, even with the right settings, it mostly is worse than other high end phones because it has worse iso, aperture and the 1 inch sensor isn’t fully utilized (it almost gets only half the light than an iphone 13 in its widest settings). Check Tony Northrup’s vid about this, it’ll only gonna be better on a tripod and doings edits after. Variable aperture is an extra feature but who’s gonna use f4 anyway? Phones with small sensor struggles more on low light, so why even use a higher aperture? Yes you can adjust your controls as perfect as possible, but you really are limited to its hardware. And again to match others iso and aperture, it needs to adjust on the shutter speed, which has side effects if only done handheld. For video, its even farther down the ranking than its photography because of worse computational photography (worse dynamic range) and stability. And thats the thing, if non pro’s are gonna use it, they’d just pick a samsung, pixel or an iphone. And with that price, they can even get an entry level apsc with those phones.
@@kean4582 See what I mean? You're questioning the variable aperture not understanding how and WHEN it could useful. You're repeated much of that "propaganda" I keep mentioning citing other phones with "bigger sensors", "wider apertures", etc. Of course, you're always limited buy the hardware, but hardware is not enough, the software is equally as important. Curiously enough you recognize this when you mention all the others doing "computational photography". Why can't you then recognize the good parts of the software on the Xperias? Like I mentioned those controls allows you to do a few things that you can't easily do and not with the same quality on other phones.
There's one video that shows what I'm trying to say.
Search "Xperia 1ii vs iPhone 12 Pro CAMERA TEST!" bu the channel "James Lavish".
It's nice to be able to just point and shoot and rely on the "computational" algorithms, but on most phones the result can be a bit too artificial, with that old "HDR Look". And these algorithms and lack of controls actually prevents you from photography in certain ways, it's also limiting as you can see on that video.
You know you can make presets in manual mode and save them ? Then its just as fast as auto mode
I thought only I watched videos of my phone...on my phone lol
Yes you can do that but many of those you tubers dont mention that becourse they are to lazy they just want it as easy as possible i say thay becourse i have the Xperia Pro-I.
Evidently this Sony Xperia Pro-I was designed for the Sony enthusiasts who's familiar with Sony's photography products and want to have a professional camera on hand without always having to take along the the primary Sony studio gear from home. Users that don't understand photography settings should probably just stick to the iPhone or something, but hope this helps 👍
Their optimization for speed and multimedia is phenomenal, their hardware is top-notch and their camera optimization is not the best, so they are like "Here are the tools to destroy the competition but figure things out yourself.". 🤷🏻
The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
As an engineer, I'd rather tame the capabilities than not have them at all.
This helps. The person I want this for HATES the auto settings on most phones. She is really good at dialing in a good style, so pro use, and not just vlogs
It's a 1.0-type sensor, not 1 inch. As usual a reviewer don't understand what Sony is trying too do. There are reasons for why the whole 1.0-type sensor only used 60% the lense. It's too close. It's not software it's hardware. Sony probably didn't think people wanted a huge camera bump on the back and therefore compromised.
If apple or Samsung made this phone people would be all over it.
FACTS ! Bout time someone said it ! But because this isn’t these fuckbags trash it on many many lvls , smh
This would be a reason to avoid it for me.
Yep and the tech reviewers would be telling everyone how incredible the phone is
No, it doesn't work like that. But my next phone will be a sony, I love change
Buddy, the whole footage looks amazing. This is phone is a game changer with that video vlog set up. I am sure many companies will start copying. Than people will think that APPLE invented it. I think SONY deserves more credit.
For half the price
The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them.
@@TheBkdot Yeah, with the absurd price range it perform like an average mid range phone very underwhelming.
Wow, this after all is the company behind the (Sony) Clie! the most complicated digital device (from the future at the time) that nobody could use without reading a 300 page manual. This device seems to be truly tailored for the pro users, so it's not really meant for anything "auto" by default lol. Having said that, I strongly believe this is one of the rare devices worth it's price premium. Huge respects to Sony, for being the one smartphone maker that doesn't insult user's intelligence. Thanks for the review!
The only improvements I want to see on the new Xperia 1 IV is better front cameras, louder speakers (sideways if they want to go full volume) and better auto/manual combo. As much as Sony want to turn the Xperia into a camera, they need to learn the limitations exists and they can't fully expect hardware to overcome limitations without fully acknowledging software prowess. I'm not expecting an iPhone, Samsung or Pixel experience but I do expect Sony to improve the basics.
I do enjoy Sony phones and hope to see then do better.
@Tessoro Desoto thinking of switching from my 12 pro max to this one!😍
Sony needs to ditch that outdated Samsung sensor they use on the front camera.
U mean they have to know how dumb society is. You have to dumb down everything for people to understand even if they don’t mind low quality
@@Justgambleit Please don't that would be the biggest blunder ever.
The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
Your review is simply designed for amateurs. Professional filmmakers love using Sony. I have an Xperia 1 II, and with the exception of overheating, I love using the phone tremendously. You are the type who shouldn't be using this type of phone whatsoever.
First of all instead of buying this overpriced trash just get a DSLR boom problem solve! The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them.
If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
@@basicallytroll2705 are u ok? Seems a bit stressed
The best Italian reviewer of phones, Andrea Galeazzi, has been very very hard on this phone.
@@samdottori yeah, cause is not an iphone. The point is, this is not a phone for everybody. If you are part of the mainstream, those are the kind of phone you avoid cause you dont understand a crap of it. Sorry, ruthless but honest.
@@oreziopancrazio3685 if i am looking at this video how can i be a mainstream/i phone person.... You are honest... Just honestly rude, not honest, I have a xiaomi redmi note pro 11 just now and i was looking at this phone as a possible upgrade, but it looks it's very good on the camera side, but not so good for other aspects like the overheating.... If you want to tell me why is so good for you, tell me, instead of insulting...
I still want it. Not going to get the most out of it because I can only see myself using those features sometimes but I still want this phone because when I want to use features like that, it'll be nice to have on hand.
I have the Xperia 1II and i love it! When they announce this i was like "i should have waited"! I am not a fan of cut outs and punch holes. Its just not my taste. I really the design of this phone too.
Niche market? How did you even forget to mention that you can go straight from ANY recording device (go pro, insta 360 etc), plug it directly into the phone's micro SD slot, which by the way NO other flagship phone is offering, do a quick edit and splatter it all over your social media. Literally the entire world is doing that these days! This implies that all I need on a trackday is my Go Pro and this phone. Upload footage on the very same day, share it between all of my race buddies, without having to spend hours transferring, editing, and uploading! Quite excited to get this!
Big up bro nice review and respect nice Nujabes photo in the background 🔥🔥🔥
No-no, not another bias video again? "But, but to be honest?" This entire video is a setup all the way, a Sony bash masqueraded as a review. I feel you placed Sony on a pedestal, only to flatter and possibly trash it. Every single compliments resolved in flattery; besides I feel this review is a bit late, there are way much better reviews out there; beside isn't this video review a bit late to the party? It's 2022 already. I recommend anyone to definitely get more opinions on this. I applaud you for the work it took to figure the phone; however, you aimed it in wrong direction and left it incomplete with many half truths. Those of us who actually daily drive it, think otherwise. How about those thin bezels, that keep focus on the screen and many more. It's like you could give it full credit for anything without taking back.
I would add that, although this may not be for everyone, Sony has other viable options, such as the Xperia 1 III or 5 for even smaller form factor; as the Pro-i was geared towards those who want a little more, although not limited to. Guys the there's nothing wrong with the phone. I'm not really sure what the purpose of this video is, other than to make it seem less desirable. Generally, products made in Japan cost more, perhaps due to labor but there's an unmatched quality associated with that too. There is nothing trivial about it it.
This video makes more sense when applied to this review, rather than the product absolutely.
I couldn't take anything away from this video, other than features being conditional and problematic about it.
I conclude, that many folks are actually grateful for this iteration of a product, and in addition photography, is more about being in control; not the other way around. Those cons you mentioned, are by no means a weakness. This phone is simply, way above average and for those are willing to be creative. I am afraid this video is contentious to be the least inspirational review, IMHO. Does anyone else catch that? It's such a, far from candid rhetoric. It was a hard listen in, to be honest. So yes, please check the format. That was your first problem, because if you did format it, you would see how it measures up to the competition. Sony actually leads the way.
The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them.
If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
"only people with a ... _Pro EYE_ will like the *Pro-I* "
Holy Sweet Snickers, i just now realized that play on words for the name of the phone.... 😁
This is like a step between an amateur and a pro. It's like your invested enough to spend the money but don't have the money to go bigger
I think you could buy a fully professional camera with the same price. As much as I would love to have this phone, I just won't, I can get like everything in this phone on other high end smartphones with way less of the cost, and if the aim is to photograph/filmmake stuff I would rather invest in something real, like a DSLR or a mirrorless.
it's very sad that such a great quality products can never be convenient to must people.
So true, if I want iPhone , I’ll just get apple
Nice phone, though I'd really love more lens flexibility
Really wish they could figure out how to utilize the entire sensor. Is this even possible in a smartphone?
Comparing the Pro-I to a camera is a tough comparison because a camera is designed solely for shooting photos and videos. In contrast, the Pro-I is a complete media tool.
I would compare the Pro-I to an iPhone instead. I use my iPhone 14 Pro on a daily basis to edit short clips and publish video content for TikTok and IG Reels.
Both platforms' ideal video frame is vertical which is very troublesome to film on a camera as most tools are not designed for vertical filming. things like gimbal and button placement.
The main problem I faced with the iPhone 14 Pro was the battery life and memory space. Tho there is iCloud which automatically syncs videos to the cloud. I can't use it on the go as the battery life spent and data taken is too heavy for 4k 60 fps videos even when I'm on a 5G connection.
Delete videos on the iPhone does not instantly increase the space on the iPhone. stupidly frustrating when I have to film back-to-back basketball games in 1 day and the only way to save the files on the alternative devices would be to use airdrop to transfer the files which might get an error if the file size is too huge.
The Pro-I have a MicroSD slot which can be used for video enthusiast to swap out immediately if the storage is full and transferring files to an iPad or Laptop through a micro-SD card is faster and more convenient than using Airdrop.
Not to mention the ability to film in 4k 120 fps as compared to the iPhone 4k 60 fps. Still, it does not resolve the battery life issue I have with my iPhone 14 Pro. Seeing that the Video monitor is attached through a USB C, Not sure if it can be both charged by a power bank and still connected to the video monitor. Similarly to my iPhone if I use a power bank, I can't use an external mic at the same time.
Did you not think about mentioning that pixels are double the size of nearest competitors?
Sony Fan here. Thank you for your thorough review. Question: If I have a Type C to HDMI cord, can I connect Xperia Pro I to any device for external display? Ex. Sony Portable projector?
Well I'm not a point & shoot type. I'm late to the party but bought a Xperia Pro-I yesterday. Should arrive next week ... 🙏
hi, how satisfied are you with the phone ?
@@jl9365 A lot to be honest!
But selling it actually, love to flip
OnePlus 11 is next
$ 950.00 if interested
With case + screenprotector
Let's be honest though I use program or manual mode for photos 98 percent of the time with my Xperia PRO-I... I don't even use the jpegs, but video I still need to learn a bit more and use so I use auto mode on video pro... Or I will set the shutter speed and let it set iso... Just takes a little bit of learning and it becomes quite nice...
Let's be honest, the biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them.
If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
Professional and great VOICE! Clap 👏
It's hella easy to use manual mode if you know how to use
My friend: the iPhone is for you...
This phone is too advanced, complex and overkill for the standard user looking for simplicity
Totally agree with u..
The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them.
Sounds like you're just an iPhone fan, reviewing none iPhone phones from an iPhone fan boys perspective. Tbh a bunch of your complaints are easily fixable by you switching back to iPhone.
You do need to understand, that regular people will simply just not choose Sony since Sony wouldn't be able to compete in terms of pricing. Why make phones to focus on the market that don't have Sony in their consideration?
Consider getting a DSLR over this overpriced hardware.
Didn't hear one mention of the sound quality or microphone set up and performance in different conditions. Obviously, can hear some of the difference between phone and studio mic which isn't too favourable but why does no review ever mention audio quality when taking video?!
I have the S21 ultra and I'm honestly thinking about upgrading to this phone how many people would recommend this? Only thing I don't like is outerbox doesn't make cases for Sony and I can't find a case with a charging port cover.
Get s22 Ultra o vivo x70pro+
Check out Spigen... They have cases for Sony but not for Pro-I
Do not downgrade to an overpriced trash my friend. The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them.
If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
@@basicallytroll2705 I already tryed to upgrade to this Sony lucky for me there was no finance available under my phone service so it was hay give us $1800 or keep what you got. I love my s21 ultra so I stuck with it I think the individualized cameras on the s22 ultra looks dumb expechaley in a case so I don't want that I'm hoping the 23 looks better or I'll just keep this one guess I'm paying extra into a upgrade package for no reason lol
Bro you just listened to advice from a guy named "basically troll" promoting a Samsung on a Sony video
Note: Should update @1:25 that isn't not actually Quad HD+ (which is 3440x1440) but Ultra Wide Quad HD Plus (3840 × 1600)
"Full manual everything": tools at your exposure to create great, and unique media. "Machine Gun Full Auto Mode": average consumer...which is literally, the largest cohort. Take it for what you will.
Plz plz answer me is it good to buy and learn something from pro I or 1 IV is better
Awesome review, JV! I would use this phone for the PlayStation app and the vloging stick.
Si t'as un lien pour le verre trempé 9H..?? C'est la galère pour trouver ??.?.?!
Merçi par avance
They should implement variable refresh rate.
Now it's a switch between either 60Hz or 120Hz.
Or just go out of business
Such a strange comment to make at the end. " Only those with a real Pro-I would actually be the people who enjoy the Xperia pro-I"🤔... How would they enjoy it if they don't own it ??
Of course owners of it enjoy it.. its a great phone.
I was almost put off by reviews like this.
Luckily I found a few reviews by photography enthusiasts and found a different story. This phone is designed for people that enjoy "photography" on a mobile phone not for everyday take out of pocket aim and shoot.
Im not saying that other phones cant take good photos but if you like a more realistic photography experience the Pro-I is a great phone with great image quality.
I love waking around with a tripod, composing , dailing in my settings and getting the best image i can iut of this camera.
I own a few cameras but I enjoy trying to get the best out of this thing , its fun.
Anyway thats my two cents worth.
May not be perfect as no phone is but Im very happy with mine.
If you have a pro phone and you keep hitting the auto mode than that phone really isn't for uou
Exactly. Who gave him this phone. He can’t even use Manual setting! Lol. What phone for. Not basic mode lol
It’s like buying manual car but hate changing gears
If I don't have time to take the photo or video in manual, I just soak it in and wait for another opportunity
Aside from its very high price, nothing to complain by all its ports and hardware.
This reminds me of the Samsung Galaxy K Zoom. I know they had a phone like that before but I forgot it’s name, there were too many different Galaxies back then to remember :)
How is this phone for regular use. I bought the s22 plus last year after my note 20 ultra went into a coma for a day. And honestly i miss my expandable memory.
Nice review,very useful.
And everyone makes a big deal about the 1 inch sensor. I saw that you can only get the full benefit if it using one lens.
I love my Samsung Galaxy S9 plus. It has a faster aperture than the Sony Experia Pro I. I was surprised to see that. My phone is 3 years old and costs a lot less.
It doesn't matter on a wide angle camera..
I think the Vlog LCD is overpriced and another additional battery drain. I use a mirror accessory that mounts on a cold shoe clamp and it works just as well. I own the Xperia Pro-I and I love it as it gives me full manual control over my photos and video. Most important of all it has the headphone jack!
Can you please send a link or name of the accessory alternative?
Xperia PRO-I | 1-inch image sensor camera with full smartphone capabilities
@5:56 I don't understand the complaint. There is too much in manual options for a non informed user but you also used it successfully in auto mode mostly?
Very confusing for an overpriced hardware, just get a DSLR with a similar price range 😂
Not quad hd display but 4k*
Intelligent phone, not for dummies
In an ideal world, this phone could be the camera reference for all mobile phones. You pay much more than on a 13 pro and a S21U or double of a Pixel 6 Pro price and you should expect the best results for that money. How do they manage to produce mid-range photos and videos with this device each year is unbelievable. Is like the management ignores all the feedback from the users, amazing and sad at the same time. Sony fan here...
totally agree, I can never understand the approach they are aiming for. if we take samsung for an example, they would produce a good concept and completely miss it up in the first generation, but they will keep improving it until the product actually competes, and gets a fir share of the market or at least convenient to buy. With Sony they will just cut the product off, or change their approach completely, leading in a big loss of interest from consumers. it's just that it feels like they are going in to the same directions of HTC and LG, which is not good
this was meant to be pa enthusiast phone where the camera is meant to be manually adjusted watch Juan Bagnel video on this you would understand and it wokrs for them it sells well actually
@@jaschaamielmalik2245 exactly
Just because you own the best camera, it won’t make you the best photographer lol. Ur buying a manual camera control phone, learn how to take pictures lol, it’s not rocket science. Since the public is obsessed with camera, why not learn ? If it then buy iPhones lol… if I want my phone to be like iPhone or Samsung, why will I buy Sony?
Bro which camera + lens setup were you holding there to record this @ 8:21 ?
4:40 that's whom it's for, but impulse dictates defaulting to the automation settings.
Hey @Joshua Vergara What phone is your daily driver?
"You're probably going to put the interface into auto mode..."
How about an honest review.
Since I don't REALLY know how to use this, I'm going to do a review assuming you're like me. This is an enthusiast level phone and people are here for a reason. Give your audience some credit.
Pro-i means for Pro Photographers.. not for any regular users... but anyone can learn how to use manual mode instead of the crappy Auto
was that pita and tzaziki by any chance ?
Sony needs to keep the 4k Oled display but needs the same hardware specs as the Asus rog phone 6
So getting S22 or latest Iphone & pay a bit extra for app like Filmic Pro will serve the purpose !!
Does anyone know if you can change the apsect ratio of photo mode to full screen?
I like the idea of this phone, I would like to ask you to test it on a telescope, if you can?
Maybe take some shots of the moon.
Some things that interest me is the remote controls and additional screen.
Is it possible to control the focus and features without having to touch the screen?
Cheers
Man, this is like explaining Final Cut Pro to TikTokers.
Hard to see Sony getting smashed to pulp on the smartphone market very similar to the console war.
The iPhone is like the teacher in a nursery school. It doesn't let you do anything as you wish "because it's not right and safe for you". Apple thinks you're stupid and gives you no freedom at all. Sony mobiles on the other hand are the definition of "Hey, I provide you with a tool bro! I give you the ability to CREATE things as you wish by yourself. This is YOUR device". The same goes for repairing as well.
To the reviewer: it's a PRO phone. It says so in the name. I've got the Experia 5 IV and with a little effort, it'll take the best photos you've ever seen on a phone.
Can this phone accept video input through a usb-c cable coming from the Atomx Cast so i can use it for streaming direct on social media?
does it have always on display? can u wake up screen with double tap? can u unlock phone touching fingerprint scanner without pressing it? thanks.
it does yes
the presenter is missing the point. Real video makers control the light and aperture and ISO. This camera is for those people, not for an amateur who wants to auto-shoot. Just like the alpha series, not many people would buy it.
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How much price of this phone
Stop giving fake reviews you sell out, I have the phone and it's the worst phone I've purchased with so many issues
Sony should focus on mobile gaming
Man, i'd like to own one of these, at least xperia 1 iii
No
It's on sale for 1100 now. I'm gonna get it
Josh supports G4!!! Hell yes!!!
its 4k not quad hd
Yea heard that error too, hearing qhd+ is like 3440x1440 to me. should be UWQHD+ LG's naming convention
Détecteur d'empreinte fonctionne quant il veut ...🤔
Temps de charge pas ultra rapide ( 1h50mins )
Photos au rdv très appréciables ( de vraies photos, mais peut mieux faire rien de transcendant...)
You obviously are not a pro photographer so this phone is not for you...its for me, I would never ever think about putting this thing i auto mode. The advantage of this system is not how many pixels, its the advanced focusing system, the focus area available on the sensor, the phone operating system, the aspherical glass lens of the 24mm. Go get an iPhone or S21 buddy, leave this for the real shooters.
You do know others also has full manual mode? AND better cameras to go with it.
But for this price I would rather get a dedicated pro camera and not a phone that tries soooo hard but does not quite get there.
The real shooters use a pro camera and not a semi-pro phone...
@@Oystein87 I also own the S21 Ultra, its crap compared to this and as for pro cameras my Q2 is in the $5000 range and lens for my A1 are way past what you consider a pro camera. If you can't make money with your cameras I understand the constraints, go buy what is being made for you.
@@webdesign6776 Saying the S22 Ultra etc is crap compared to this is a joke🤣 I would take that over the Sony most days.
If you would not use it with auto mode then this is the wrong camera.. You should get a real camera instead of a phone camera with all the disadvantages it has if you are serious about photo. Nothing comes close.
I’ve only used auto mode when i really was in a rush to capture a photo at a moment. But overall a beast phone. Agree with you web design.
@@Oystein87 Sure they have. But can you use manual mode on the other cameras like telephoto? Exactly.
Sony allows manual and RAW capability on ALL of its cameras
No camera comparaison (photos) against Iphone 13 pro max or other ? So deceptionting...
He did Sony a favor for not showing a comparison 😂
I think Sony has some fundamental confusion. Why make a vlog monitor when they can just include a higher quality front facing camera? Why completely focus on manual adjustment and not have any AI option even on basic mode? Because if you have to make so many adjustments and have a tripod to get a decent low light photo, might as well just do it with a real camera and get even better results. I support them for continuing to give consumers hardware that other manufacturers have forgotten, but I’d be lying if I said other phones and other cameras on those phones, along with the execution, isn’t better. Samsung S21 shooting in ExpertRAW produces great, natural looking results too, so you can’t even argue for Sony on that “natural” aspect anymore.
Perhaps they would do such with the next model, but for now a lot of us prioritize those thin bezels, uninterrupted look; "mama mia! mua!!" I give Sony tons of bonus points for that and don't mind the lower res on the front facing. Everyone else seems to be struggling with the their front facing camera placement, and bio metric fingerprint sensor too. At least they gave a solution which destroys competition. It's a balancing act, as with most things in life. I think in the long run they end up catering to many groups, as opposed to having an all in one device. I remember they had a VCR which had everything you could think of, but it crumbled as a result. We can always find reason to like or dislike anything, I think this has more of the likes than dislikes if you care to add up the features. It's load with the hardware, and somewhat software too; there a few app you wont be seeing any where soon. As far as AI, that's software, and can be added at future updates. You can't say so with hardware. If you wait long enough, they'll meet your needs. I know I waited ten years, and they seem to have met a fair number of my check boxes.... Yes there are many great phones out there, which is why this shouldn't be a problem yeah? Yes the Samsung S line up and notes series are all respectable. Both of my Parents have Samsung phone, and I'm so happy for them. They take great photos and share with the family. I am blown away by their photos, at times. But this is different, it isn't for them and I wont recommend it to them. I will give them Samsung all day or even iPhone, I know they will be well taken care off. Some things are better experienced than explained. Cheers!!.
@@stevensonnwokenkwo3281 The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them.
If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
How do i get one in India
This this is just bogus. They gave u a manual ""option"" n u complained abt it. Computational aspect is as best as it can get for this smartphone, see their intro video.
If you're going for pro quality, you'll buy a proper camera. The price is way too high for what it offers.
Sony's delusional fan base is given on the XBOX vs PS thing, but even in the smartphone market?? 😂🤡 The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
Love josh, this is kinda bad. Obviously a person that would normally shoot auto is going to opt for auto? Why would they be buying the phone if not for the camera software? Why do we want everything to just do all of the work for us?
I have been using it for 3 months in a hot country like Singapore, you would never do a proper vlog on this machine as it has an extreme overheating problem. No matter what settings you have optimized, you can not continuously shoot for over 10 mins at 4k or even downgrading to 1080p 30fps
4K DISPLAY! Not QHD!
Does anyone know if this phone is compatible with T-Mobile?.
It is
Tell us you missed the point of this phone without telling us you missed the point.
It is Pro One. Not Pro Eye.
its 4K display
What NONE of the reviewers mention is the atrocious Xperia System update process. Sony could learn a thing or two had they really 'studied' the competition. Huge disappointment ... considering the Price Point.
I haven't heard about this. What is the issue? Some people have reported the update gets stuck/takes a long time?
I think it needs some growing pains to realize it’s true potential.
Just get a god damn DSLR boom problem solve, no need to get this overpriced trash. The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them.
If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
PlayStation five playable on Sony phone, that would be great
It is with the remote play app
If you think a PS5 is complicated, youre slow
let someone who actually can use sony phones how there supposed to be used review it on the channel.
Just get a DSLR over this overpriced hardware then BOOM problem solved. The biggest improvement they made was having the camera app crash on you after 15 minutes so you can be spared the embarrassment of using this phone.
If they are lucky enough in the next 5 yrs maybe Sony would finally appear on the top 20 list of best smartphone maker company...I really hope they can atleast sold 100 phone a year now that would be record breaking for them.
If this keeps up maybe its time for Sony to hang the gloves and stick on creating a next level over priced televisions.
Very good REVIEW.
If you close your eyes he sounds like the Strictly Dumpling guy
I'm waiting for Sony to make a one-camera phone that does everything from wide to macro to zoom.
then people will complain its too complcated, this guy already have problem using all the controls