Accelerator also “ *USED TO* “ have no charge up and do more damage in the hardcore update and it *USED TO* have drones Now it doesn’t anymore Edit: there’s this guy who said that accel never had drones, go watch Wikiacolours
@@kyrsoul1 what did I just say? You just said it more complicated and I know how accel worked in hc testing as well as I've played tb so I know how phaser also works And they were quite similar
fallen king: hahaha just 6 golden mini I can easily got through golden minis: look carefully noob fallen king: wat? wait... you guys look classic... waiT waIT WAIT, DAMN RUNNNN golden minis: you think you have a chance?
That IS true, when phaser kills an enemy it takes a bit to attack another enemy so it would be like a charge-up but instead it's just that it takes a sec to find an enemy to target
@@cheeseworld9525 bro you are somehow logic problem we are talking about roblox game if you are not only talking about roblox there is still a lot flash td games release before btd
You forgot: Patrol: Military base Zed: Mecha base Railgunner: Ranger Scout and Sniper have the same name Gold scout and commando Graveyard: Graveyard farm (not the same functions but similar looks) Tuber: Rocketeer
People are starting to use there brains! Pyro you better fry them again. WAIT NO DONT SPEED IT UP! NO PYRO YOU CREATED THIS COMMENT! GENIUS NOW WE GONNA GET SMART COMMENTS THAT MAKE SENSE
Tds towers vs Tb towers in a nutshell: Tb tower: I have 20000 damage per shot and 0.0000001 fire rate and no placement limit Tds tower: I have 10 damage per shot and I fire each 0.2 seconds so I have 50 dps and a placement limit of 3 Tb tower: noob
2:10 Man, Phaser doesn't kill Void that fast, all of TB enemies is much stronger than TDS enemies also Void has too much hp that low amount of people can beat him
Fact: Tds pyro's speedup is barely noticable, and an update completely removed it. But tb pyro is way better on dps, flame duration, and slowdown effect. Aviator is more expensive for just 80 dps?? Somewhat decent aoe and free hidden detect. Ace deals more than double of the dps but ability is worse. both are heavily affected by placement. Militant is bad before, but the update made militant deal more dps than merc. Merc is better on price but militant has better upgrades on early level(Hidden detect at lvl1?! Damage doubles at lvl2?), there for can hold on for better. I can reach all the way to final wave with militant now(tds enemies are weak). Commando is definably better. Deals almost the dps as a G.mini. But it is super duper expensive compared to mini and gets completely destroyed by mini statswise until max level( 20 dps on 3rd upgrade, mini has double the dps for a little bit more). Also lags can Decrease commando's dps to around 70. Also commando becomes obsolete on later waves due to high hp enemy spam, while minigunner can kill molten boss with commanders, and mixed with other dps towers allows you to beat fallen king. Tds mortar is jut so bad compared to tb mortar. It is still usable in tb for its damage and splash. The entity update buffed mortar's targeting system and grouped up enemies more, but tds mortar is still bad. Phaser deals almost the same dps as accelerator( around 300 or so). But accel performs way better on hordes while phaser will struggle a lot. But phaser is cheaper and has no limit.
All tower work best together. Phaser has more dps (404 at max)but only target 1 enemy. Extremely good for single target and bosses. Work best with tower that can easily clear enemy like zed , and also has really far range so i give it a tie for both phaser and accel Bc the void have 500k hp so phaser need to be strong. Talking about void reaver, 700k hp, spawn 2 of them. Only possible for a team of 3 player with accel(they spam more accel tho). So yea, a tie + tower of tds or tb only work best on their own game, it maybe worst or better on other game Talking about zed, tds player still crying and waiting for mecha base Golden tower, both game require very high price or requirements for the tower
I’m not going to argue with you because that would be childish, but if you want to see some examples then just search up “Tower Battles vs Tower Defense Simulator.”
Below: Nerf, Copy and Do bad things to make the game harder so the community feeds raz robux Planet: Balances the game, Makes better supports and allows better use than spending robux
but zombie have no feeling and they don't scared even they burned and the fire will just burn the muscles or something on leg and make them harder to move which make them go slower also idk why Im replying 1 month ago comment
Fun fact: tower battle was made in 2011 and some of the tower defense simulator’s towers are directly the same from tower battles, take Fragger for example
Phaser needs to charge up every time he kills an enemy unlike Accelerator after he kills an enemy he switch to the next enemy. He still sometimes need to charge up after killing an enemy for some reason
Do DJ, im pretty sure theres a big difference in range cuz it felt wayyy shorter when i started to play tds Do farm too (limit, duh) Zed, Dont need to explain that one You gotta do golden scout cuz tds pretty sure has a better golden scout Aswell as enforcer, (enforcer matched with sledger) enforcer isnt that great Rn im join tower battles to see what others i can do Cyro-gunner (with freezer) Both garbage Shotgunner, im not quite sure abt that one but i think tds has a better one Patrol (with Military Base) Idk abt that one either thats all i can think of. Have fun makin part 2! And anyone stumbling upon this then i recommend that u should subscribe and while ur at it, hit that bell! have a good day!
Fun fact: When tds was released all towers has the same stats of the tb towers
Yup. The game was directly inspired by tb...
bc it started being a copy, so makes sense
@CyborgKing200 source: trust me bro
@@Theking0fgg inspired….. do you know the difference between inspired and copying?
@@minecraftbossbattle4007 yes, why?
Military base in tower defense and tower battle kinda good to do part2
Also the rocketeer and the tuber
the military base has more upgrades but less hp on tank, it has like only 400 or sumthing (not talking to max railgun tank) and tb tank has 800 hp
patrol has no placement limit (patrol = mil base
Yes
@Mad Mechanic when
25 likes 0 view seems legit
most liked moment
You have to watch till the end if skip there is no view
@@Null.xinety no is logic youtube
@Dhruv playz my internet is fine its youtube being laggey
RUclips on drugs
@@duck4578 yes
Fun fact: pyro used to slow enemy once
Mortar used to have a very huge explosion radius
Militant doesn't have reload once also was john tower once
Good ol days
did you mean mortar, not motor?
*M O R T O R*
Im not realy an og to the game but the only thing ik is john tower (the first tower ive ever bought)
@@farhi411 my bad
Mark:nah no one copy me
Zed:sure?
Mark:are you xr901 how you here?
But Mark is the copy of zed
@@kv4staliniumscythe751 exactly
@MMI👇😍 s h u t b o t
@@nvs0p bruh why you pointing at the dislike button
@MMI👇😍 heck
“My expectations were low but DAMN” that’s a lot of damage
Lol
Not just damage,
*INHALE*
*”EMOTIONAL DAMAGE-“*
Alternative title: towers meeting their original version
Nobody:
Max tier Graveyard in TB: Y E S
Accelerator also “ *USED TO* “ have no charge up and do more damage in the hardcore update
and it *USED TO* have drones
Now it doesn’t anymore
Edit: there’s this guy who said that accel never had drones, go watch Wikiacolours
Yes cuz else hee was going to be insanely copied
@@nvs0p no it’s becuase it was really unoriginal becuase of the aspects, they were really similar to tb phaser
@@kyrsoul1 what did I just say?
You just said it more complicated and I know how accel worked in hc testing as well as I've played tb so I know how phaser also works
And they were quite similar
Below knows to only nwrf towers and replacing them
Yeah
imagine playing tds with tb towers that will be legendary
epicly spams zeds*
Very cool:))
fallen king: hahaha just 6 golden mini I can easily got through
golden minis: look carefully noob
fallen king: wat? wait... you guys look classic... waiT waIT WAIT, DAMN RUNNNN
golden minis: you think you have a chance?
Then everybody would just be wondering how the hell I managed to get an elf lol
@@omegg656 you ca have 5 zeds and it is very expensive you need dj to make it cheaper and have faster fire rate
Yooooo Elite this is sick man!
Shotgunner: I just do splash damage and have hidden detect
Enforcer: I hit stuff
Gladiator: What the hell
what
enforcer is not a copy of gladiator, for - fact, but the game needs a melee tower so thats what they came up with
@III Slasher
@Nome I assume you spread peanut butter and I splash jam whats the difference?
@Nome Its the same with different letters
I feel like pyro would be pretty good if he could do 10 damage
too op idiot
@@microphon1549 Not that op only 40 dps also small range
@Toast militant has more dps Than that now with more range and no Speed up so its still trash
Actually pyro speeding enemies makes sense. When you are on fire you would run so yeah it makes sense.
Gta logic :
FIRE FORCE
They're zombies they're brain dead and don't feel anything also means they don't need stamina they can run really fast for hours but ofc tds logic
Its gta logic guys!!1!!11!
Cus whenever i put gasoline on them they run fast!1!!11!
Realism doesnt make a game better all the time.
Fun Fact: TB was the first tower defense game, TDS is technically the copy, but TB isn’t updated anymore.
True
Rampart
I knew tower battles before tower defense,my young brother and me usually play tower battles it’s our childhood game
There is a thing about the phaser, every time he kills an enemy he needs to charge up again
When he is upgraded he wont do that.
@@cheemaha m ok
@@cheemaha He still does.
@@cheemaha he still does, but it's very short
For 2 seconds
the pyro can actually be useful for big loop maps to quickly bring back enemies to the center to DIE while taking fire damage along the way
That’s actually a good use ngl
U are smurter than albert einstien
Good for crossroads
People thinking Tower battles is copying tds, but ITS not.Tower battles is more older than tds
Nice video elite all the videos you made you made was amazing and I love your comtent
alternate title: tds players ranting to the devs about all the towers needing buffs(they dont.)
This video was revolutionary for tds nutshell videos
As a proud tower battles and tower defense simulator fan, I can say this is oddly way too true.
Same!
Pyromancer does not speed up enemies that much, especially with one puff.
And flamethrower cannot slow down the void, and also not that much.
Did you forget it’s a joke
flamethrower does slow void and it’s a lot
Dude the flame thrower never even slowed
...... pyro can speed them up.........
@@jennifermoon7985 ruclips.net/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/видео.html
Sick noice perfection
Flamethrower: and i slow them down
**Old pyro appears**
Old pyro: me too
bedwars pyro: amatures
Plot twist: phaser have to reload again when boss is died while accelerator just change some times
That IS true, when phaser kills an enemy it takes a bit to attack another enemy so it would be like a charge-up but instead it's just that it takes a sec to find an enemy to target
phaser just copy inferno tower from clash of clans
Fun fact Tb was second and the first tower defense was bloons tower defense
@@cheeseworld9525 bro you are somehow logic problem
we are talking about roblox game
if you are not only talking about roblox there is still a lot flash td games release before btd
@@benedictlim3028 accel too he copy of terraria too but worse
all of tb units - toxic as heck
phaser - hmm yes cool
True the strongest guy was the coolest here ngl
They should be nice bc Tds towers are almost trash (or not)
lol
Phaser wasnt toxic to accel
@@GamerBrixFilms read the comment again but "CAREFULLY" my dude
"My expectations were low but Damm." My favorite part right there. Also great video.
Ace pilot’s hidden detection ability can go up to 45s.
k n o w l e d g e
But how
@@cupppppppppp Why not?
@@0ok02ThePerson it just 30 secomd bruh
@@cupppppppppp it does impact a lot for towers that don't have hd
You forgot:
Patrol: Military base
Zed: Mecha base
Railgunner: Ranger
Scout and Sniper have the same name
Gold scout and commando
Graveyard: Graveyard farm (not the same functions but similar looks)
Tuber: Rocketeer
Damn bro i work hard on tb just to get Railgunner and phaser and be a pro one
he will be doing a part 2 bruh, also editing these are hard
Graveyard?
@@andriusrusilas7288 Graveyard farm
@@dhimy9172 not the same. Graveyard in tower battles spawns jack o boss which has 10k health
I was waiting for something like this :D
Oh man i wish i got a teammate to farm with so i can get good troops
Which game lol
Militant now:HOW ABOUT NOW MERCENARY???
it's still the same thing 💀
0:51 the ace pilot would then be able to detect the hidden. How does the hidden pass by anyway?
People are starting to use there brains! Pyro you better fry them again. WAIT NO DONT SPEED IT UP! NO PYRO YOU CREATED THIS COMMENT! GENIUS NOW WE GONNA GET SMART COMMENTS THAT MAKE SENSE
@@thetruesakitenma wha?
@@thetruesakitenma dude go get some brain
Tds towers vs Tb towers in a nutshell:
Tb tower: I have 20000 damage per shot and 0.0000001 fire rate and no placement limit
Tds tower: I have 10 damage per shot and I fire each 0.2 seconds so I have 50 dps and a placement limit of 3
Tb tower: noob
Suggestion: Tds enemies meet Tb enemies
they should compare which enemies are harder to beat
@@Shoehorn_ Tb enemies is literally hell
Omg your vids get so much better each time will done
Phaser: LOL u need to rechrage everytime you attack
Accel: You too
Phaser: When the enemy died....
Accel:Wdym?
like old accel did
I hate phaser when he phasong me :( THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE)
OMG I WAITING FOR THAT THANKS ELITE!1!!!!1
2:10 Man, Phaser doesn't kill Void that fast, all of TB enemies is much stronger than TDS enemies also Void has too much hp that low amount of people can beat him
Plot twist : other tb towers helped kill
true
Normal + molten + fallen = TB gameplay
Yeah even fallen king haves less hp than void
btw if someone says void reaver: grim
Nice vid keep up the good work
Fact: Tds pyro's speedup is barely noticable, and an update completely removed it. But tb pyro is way better on dps, flame duration, and slowdown effect.
Aviator is more expensive for just 80 dps?? Somewhat decent aoe and free hidden detect. Ace deals more than double of the dps but ability is worse. both are heavily affected by placement.
Militant is bad before, but the update made militant deal more dps than merc. Merc is better on price but militant has better upgrades on early level(Hidden detect at lvl1?! Damage doubles at lvl2?), there for can hold on for better. I can reach all the way to final wave with militant now(tds enemies are weak).
Commando is definably better. Deals almost the dps as a G.mini. But it is super duper expensive compared to mini and gets completely destroyed by mini statswise until max level( 20 dps on 3rd upgrade, mini has double the dps for a little bit more). Also lags can Decrease commando's dps to around 70. Also commando becomes obsolete on later waves due to high hp enemy spam, while minigunner can kill molten boss with commanders, and mixed with other dps towers allows you to beat fallen king.
Tds mortar is jut so bad compared to tb mortar. It is still usable in tb for its damage and splash. The entity update buffed mortar's targeting system and grouped up enemies more, but tds mortar is still bad.
Phaser deals almost the same dps as accelerator( around 300 or so). But accel performs way better on hordes while phaser will struggle a lot. But phaser is cheaper and has no limit.
Ok so what do we have here
All tower work best together.
Phaser has more dps (404 at max)but only target 1 enemy. Extremely good for single target and bosses. Work best with tower that can easily clear enemy like zed , and also has really far range so i give it a tie for both phaser and accel
Bc the void have 500k hp so phaser need to be strong. Talking about void reaver, 700k hp, spawn 2 of them. Only possible for a team of 3 player with accel(they spam more accel tho). So yea, a tie
+ tower of tds or tb only work best on their own game, it maybe worst or better on other game
Talking about zed, tds player still crying and waiting for mecha base
Golden tower, both game require very high price or requirements for the tower
man ı lazy ı dont look this💀
i also love the fact that commando even tho is better than g mini its still far worse than marksman in ters of cost efficiency
pls update., The tables have turned a lot now
Why does flamethrower look like sussy amongus
commander be like : my tips are better /commander from tb be like : wtf
TB bettee
TB betteer comander tower battles is. Better
I thought void is telling us what is coming on last wave he say "I've done with you im gonna kill you myself"
@@pansebacheckmark yes void is narrating the game
wtf commander isnt the narrator in tb
Do it again because tower got upgraded or like something atleast!
accelerator isnt a copy of the phaser its actually a copy of the exterminator.
fun fact:accelrator was made before exterminator
This isn’t tds vs TBBF ok
Tower Battles deserves all the recognition Tower Defence Sim. and then some for all the troubles it had with TDS directly copying it
Tds wasn't really copying TB in 2019
I’m not going to argue with you because that would be childish, but if you want to see some examples then just search up “Tower Battles vs Tower Defense Simulator.”
The truth about mortar: his explosion radius is 2 enemies
E
Wow
Nice editing
Below: Nerf, Copy and Do bad things to make the game harder so the community feeds raz robux
Planet: Balances the game, Makes better supports and allows better use than spending robux
Ofc yes i wanna go to tb bc below never buff units
But still tb doesn't have targeting for some stupid reason
@@swampertfan5598 the targeting is kinda useless tho
ay yo elite can you make a tds series like you start off with fresh account and then you start to proceed to get better stuff?
fun tb fact:
in 2019 you could spam mortar so hard it lags the void to not move on borderlands when on the bridge near cliff
Ok so it's just that one milli base glitch on steroids yet* it still works
kinda nostalgic for some reason even though its just 2 years
hey nice elite also I sub
sniper: trash
sniper tb: actually can defend if spammed enough
And good as heck when use with fragger
Im watching this after the ace rework so a lot is outdated
Same
1:46 - 1:55 this damage is enough to lose game
An Fun Fact Is That Pyro From Tds Has More Logic Than Other Because We Would Run If We Burn Us
but zombie have no feeling and they don't scared even they burned
and the fire will just burn the muscles or something on leg and make them harder to move which make them go slower
also idk why Im replying 1 month ago comment
''All the successful person cannot reach their destination in one try, So we must keep on doing what we want to be! 🔥❤❤ '
I don’t know why you commented this on a meme video but yea!
@@EliteElite i have just commented cause i like that's simple if it hurts then say i will remove my comment
Old tds towers:finally a good challenger our battle will be legendary
Tb tower and enemy has no face while tds has
@Not RickRoII👇❤️ me is gonna get rickroll
Tb towers:We are better HAHA
Old tds towers:Are you challenging us?!
Very true...
Yes finally my two fav meet in an animation
2:06
Supercell:nice mechanic may we steal it
What you talking about it's literally a different company plus they don't know tds or whatever (if it's a joke then I'm sorry if not then still sorry)
The pyro speeding up enemies actually makes more sense
How tf does that make sense?
“Imitations they may be, but together they make a fine spectacle”
-Yusuke Kitagawa
Fun fact: tower battle was made in 2011 and some of the tower defense simulator’s towers are directly the same from tower battles, take Fragger for example
On release each and every tds tower had the same stats as the ones they were copied from in TB
TB troops:we are the best haha!
tds troops:we are the worst noo!
monster from tds:alllow me to introduce myself
me: watches this video
Also me: baby Idc I still want plai tower *DeLaY* simulator
0:52 HOOOO HO HOO
VIDEO IDEA: I heard this idea from alot of comments so credits to them anyways the idea is to meet tds enemies meet tb enemies
elite ı have a question. what animator or other thing you using? pls can som1 say?
militant:may be i got no more reload update
mercenary:what the fuck
Fun fact: pyromancer is literally flamethrower with inverted color slightly edited and no mask
Merceny when this vid came out: looser! Mercenary now: *fades into void*
6 sec in the vid already knows the vid is gonna be sick
FINALLY SOMEONE MADE THIS
Phaser needs to charge up every time he kills an enemy unlike Accelerator after he kills an enemy he switch to the next enemy. He still sometimes need to charge up after killing an enemy for some reason
Phaser is good for shred final boss and not for crowd
@@CalamityAgent you underestimate how phaser works, bet you didnt even use phaser in tb lol
@@gogus2553 i didnt use it but i did see how it works we did have like 15 of these and we lose bruh while 8 accels would do that easy
@@CalamityAgent phaser is meant for a single tanky enemy while accel is different
@@CalamityAgent ruclips.net/video/1vH_XBSDsK8/видео.html 10 phaser vs void
Wow is so amazing
But ace pilot only gives hidden detection for 15 seconds
Pyromancer ❎
Speedomancer ✅
Enemy fire buffer ✅
as a person who plays tower battles and tds I feel this exact video.
People: accel's charge up SUCKS IT TAKE SO LONG
People: dude r u serious? 1 minute? *s h o r t t i m e*
I like it when flamethrower slow down enemies like toxic gunner
This was a good one
The reason why people leaving tower battle: tower kinda good and mainly use strat or self strat solo Void
haha copied comment go brrr
@@saddle_pan6430 🤣
Old motar vs tb motar
Old motar: I used to rule this world..
Phaser Takes A While To Charge Up Phaser And Accel Are Amost The Same
1:12 even wiht that mercenary is still less useful
Idea Video:What if Old tds Towers meet tb towers
I think I know why TDS pyro speeds up enemies, it’s because in real life when your on fire you need to run faster
Ranger : Hey shoot that balloon
Accel : D O Y O U R S E L F
TDS is a good simulator-looking game; but only OGs will remember TB
What if the towers were in each other games? Like TB towers in TDS and vise versa.
Tb towers would shred while tds towers would struggle (because the void in tb is really strong)
Idea : tds towers meet Evolution Evade tower
Me after watching the video:
Time to play tower battles
The motar from TB was so nice he didn’t judge the TDS motar
ill sub if you make part 2
Do DJ, im pretty sure theres a big difference in range cuz it felt wayyy shorter when i started to play tds
Do farm too (limit, duh)
Zed, Dont need to explain that one
You gotta do golden scout cuz tds pretty sure has a better golden scout
Aswell as enforcer, (enforcer matched with sledger) enforcer isnt that great
Rn im join tower battles to see what others i can do
Cyro-gunner (with freezer) Both garbage
Shotgunner, im not quite sure abt that one but i think tds has a better one
Patrol (with Military Base) Idk abt that one either
thats all i can think of. Have fun makin part 2!
And anyone stumbling upon this then i recommend that u should subscribe and while ur at it, hit that bell!
have a good day!
@MMI👇😍 wth
Patrol wins cause it has no place limit and tb golden scout can be used as a mid game tower
this is why I'm go play Tb
0:54
The hidden:hahahhahahah
The hidden 1 sec later:*dies because Ace*