Thank you for all the support!! Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code XB2 at MANSCAPED.com! Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Getting ready to go LIVE 00:09:22 - Intro and Housekeeping 00:31:15 - Starfield arrest and review cycle 00:40:53 - Certain Affinity Lobo/Tatanka 00:55:15 - Jez at Gamescom 01:28:46 - Phil Spencer Interview - Mid Gen Upgrade, 4 Big Games A Year, Baldur's Gate 3 02:42:20 - Starfield discourse 02:51:20 - Xbox ABK Deal restructured 03:07:20 - Patreon Question and Closing
Timestamps: Getting ready to go live 0:00 Intro 9:22 Sponsor 15:53 Patreon shout outs 18:35 Superchats 21:59 Starfield arrest and insane review cycle 31:15 One chip challenge for charity 39:10 Certain Affinity and Lobo/Tatanka 40:53 Superchats 44:13 Jez at Gamescom 55:15 Xbox cloud servers 1:18:45 Jez hanging out with xbox cohort 1:20:45 More Jez at Gamescom 1:24:00 Phil's interview, Xbox series wraps & Superchats 1:28:46 Starfield discourse 2:42:20 Superchats 2:46:10 ABK deal restructured 2:51:20 Patreon Questions and Closing 3:07:20
Rand and Jez, I listen to you guys every week. Thanks for the entertainment. For the Boulders Gate segment. I don’t like how you allow Xbox / Spencer to slide with scamming people with features. No promised halo co-op, no promised red fall 60 fps, and now promising features for boulders gate after launch. I wish you guys would speak up for people on Xbox constantly promising features that should be there on launch and that are getting canceled after they make their sales.
@Rand with the success of the steam deck and rog ally maybe not this generation making a handheld, but next generation they make a handheld instead of an equivalent of the S model and an X model equivalent.
I believe Starfield is going to "Sublime" because Microsoft has focused solely on next gen and PC. This game will be fully optimized to use the lastest and greatest gaming Technology.
You guys always rush through the question from your most ardent supporters ie Patreon…I’ll wait while you look up ardent…,…that’s why I unsubbed, I’m not an inconvenience…get it together.
I have a crazy idea, but wanted to share it. Xbox should phase the series S' out. I say set a 6m to a year date and say the Series S will no longer have parity after that date. Stop production of the black Series S. And in that 6m to year window offer a deal for Series S trade ins. Say trade in your Series S and pay $100 and get a Series X. $100 off for Series S owners, and Series X owners get games that aren't held back by Series S. I get how that is $100 loss per traded Series X's for Microsoft, but they are willing to pay around 69 billion for Activision, so selling/trading for a Series X at a $100 loss and no longer having the parity headache, seems worth it. Imo, if someone can afford a $300 to $350 Series S, then they should be able to wait, save up another $200, and just get an X.
That's a terrible idea, unless you want them to kill their ability to sell any console ever again. If devs were actually wringing all they could out of the machine and coming up short it would be one thing, but they aren't. Not a single game has come out that actually uses the RDNA2 featureset built into both machines, most of which are specifically meant to *save on RAM usage*. As for games "being held back," the only example anyone can point to is Baldur's Gate 3, and that is due to the peculiar set of circumstances surrounding the game itself - it was designed for PC, and is still using DX11, more than 8 years after DX12 came out with many features that would allow them to cut down on RAM usage. The fact is that textures make up the vast majority of RAM usage for nearly every game, and 4k textures are 4x the file size of 1080p textures, and more than twice the size of 1440p textures (see Jedi Survivor, which came in at 44 GB on Series S and 140 GB on Series X).
@@ScubaSnacks How do you know that BG3 is only game to have issues? That's not what has been reported. There are a couple different dev teams that have said Similar things, but have been blown off as having a Sony bias. Along with, "rumors," devs don't like having to build games with 2 different systems on 1 platform. The Xbone one S and Series S were kind of an experiment. Phil and Xbox thought offering a cheaper version of the console, along side their more expensive, more beefy console, would lead to more people buying into the Xbox Eco system. That has basically been proven false. And overall it may have worked in selling more consoles to simply charge less money for the X. Which would mean losing more money per console, but ultimately more people bought a PS5 at $400. And with having games also available on PC, which I think is a great thing, tbh, they reduced the need for people to get a S or X, as well. Now, Xbox didn't foresee Covid, and all the supply issues that was going to create. And it certainly hurt Series X sales. I could have gotten an S, fairly close to the S and X releasing. But I didn't want an S, and I didn't want to pay almost double or slightly less than double for an X. So it took me close to a year to get my X. Literally 3 days, shy of 365 days of launch. And I've been an early new generation/premium guy, forever. I also have also typically bought the more expensive console offered. I bought the black 360 elite console, and initially bought an OG Xbox one, but upgraded to a Scorpion when made available. Had Covid not hurt supply chains, would have had an X within a week of launch. I guess what I'm trying to say is I believe I'm one of many who would prefer to have the beefiest console of every generation, and doesn't want a lesser console, from a company that demands all, "NEW," IPs be playable on both, negatively impacting, holding back, or leading to games completely skipping my console of choice.
Even CEO Swen Vinke of Larian Studios himself said that, and I quote, "I don't think the Series S is holding back gaming," but rather that it simply takes more work to develop for. If even the BG3 devs are saying the Series S isn't holding gaming back, then who are you to say that the Series S is holding gaming back?
Mojang keeps updating and supporting one of the biggest games of all time. They aren't exactly sitting on their asses doing nothing. Pretty sure they are doing a decent bit by raking in millions upon millions of dollars.
Verry easy, ubisoft is in bad financial waters. This divergence makes them a bit better and gives good relationship with xbox. Aka ubisoft gets bought after the abk deal and the streaming rights are back to xbox + all of ubisoft
When MS says 4 games a year, that is not the same as what gamers have in mind when they think about games. I mean, Spencer listing games such as Hi-Fi Rush or that new Minecraft game, what's it called? Those are not "big" games. That's not what gamers want. Gamers want 4 games a year the size of Starfield (well, that is xtra large lol) or Fable or Perfect Dark. AAA big budget games. To be fair, not even Sony manages such a cadence.
I don't like the sound of this. Rand is reading instead of playing Starfield and jez is playing armor core 6 instead of starfield. I hope this isn't a bad sign lol.
Dude, Jez literally says at 1:13:05 that he has put an absurd amount of hours into Starfield already. And Rand says earlier in the podcast that he's been playing Starfield every day. You think if the game was trash he would be doing that? Also at 1:21:40 Jez literally says that "there's a lot of good stuff going on at Xbox" and that he's "pretty excited for the future of Xbox." Again, if Starfield was mediocre or was trash, do you think Jez would say he's excited about the future of Xbox?
What? Jez literally also says earlier in the podcast that he expects that Starfield woll do really well in sales. If he thought Starfield was trash, he wouldn't say that.
With their games coming to PC day one I am not surprised Xbox is not selling as well as last gen. This was super briefly mentioned but isn't this a huge factor?
selling boxes is not the metric for xbox, if you take phil at his word. they want engagement of their games and services on whichever platform you prefer. just as Nintendo does its own thing, Xbox is now doing its own thing..
@@johncollins9438 I totally agree. Was just a little surprised that some would be surprised that Xbox is not selling as well as before when all their games are now on PC. Especially with how big PC gaming has become. For the reasons you mention I think Xbox consoles will still be around a long time, to provide that option, but unless something terrible happens in the PC space I can't see Xbox console numbers suddenly surging upwards and beyond vs last gen or anything like that.
Xbox hasn’t any unit sellers tho this gen. Starfield will definitely move Xbox units even if it’s on pc. The amount of Sony people I know buying an Xbox as well just for starfield is huge. And then IF Xbox delivers in 2024 they will close the gap with Sony more so when it comes to units sales. Pc gaming is still niche compared to how many people own consoles in the world
I can't stop laughing at all the poor toenails so triggered because sony has no games and XBOX and PC has all the games can't wait to play STARFIELD while all the poor toenails will only watch STARFIELD on RUclips and cry about it RUclips😂😂😂 great times ahead for PC and XBOX sony has no games 😂😂😂
Not everyone can afford a PC, for one, and two, PC ports aren't as consistent as console ports have been recently. There have been more awful PC ports lately than bad console ports.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Getting ready to go LIVE
00:09:22 - Intro and Housekeeping
00:31:15 - Starfield arrest and review cycle
00:40:53 - Certain Affinity Lobo/Tatanka
00:55:15 - Jez at Gamescom
01:28:46 - Phil Spencer Interview - Mid Gen Upgrade, 4 Big Games A Year, Baldur's Gate 3
02:42:20 - Starfield discourse
02:51:20 - Xbox ABK Deal restructured
03:07:20 - Patreon Question and Closing
Xbox is pretty popular in Europe now Rand and the UK :)
Can you see the synergy in having TWO "X" logos beside your names instead of the old bird from former twitter? You're the "X" box Two!
How do i always end up here? The algorithm throws me in here anytime i leave youtube running while i go to work 😅
Great introduction music 🎶
Timestamps:
Getting ready to go live 0:00
Intro 9:22
Sponsor 15:53
Patreon shout outs 18:35
Superchats 21:59
Starfield arrest and insane review cycle 31:15
One chip challenge for charity 39:10
Certain Affinity and Lobo/Tatanka 40:53
Superchats 44:13
Jez at Gamescom 55:15
Xbox cloud servers 1:18:45
Jez hanging out with xbox cohort 1:20:45
More Jez at Gamescom 1:24:00
Phil's interview, Xbox series wraps & Superchats 1:28:46
Starfield discourse 2:42:20
Superchats 2:46:10
ABK deal restructured 2:51:20
Patreon Questions and Closing 3:07:20
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You're doing the Lord's work
Jez, i don't recall you debating Colin. Rand pushed back on some of the outrageous takes Colin had.
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It's pretty hilarious everyone was expecting Starfield to be a revolutionary game compared to what we got.
Catching you guys on replay. See you Friday bro. 💪🏿
Starfield is gonna be amazing when it drops, can't wait for The Xbox Two on Friday
My birthday is on September 1st and my vacation starts on the 3rd. I will be playing Starfield on the 31st.
Are you also turning 31?
Great show Rand al Thor and Jez happy birthday Rand 🎉
Timestamps?
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@@RandomGuyNB thanks
Happy Birthday Rand
Thanks for the heads up. I want to be surprised, so I’ll wait to listen till Saturday.
Rand and Jez, I listen to you guys every week. Thanks for the entertainment.
For the Boulders Gate segment. I don’t like how you allow Xbox / Spencer to slide with scamming people with features. No promised halo co-op, no promised red fall 60 fps, and now promising features for boulders gate after launch.
I wish you guys would speak up for people on Xbox constantly promising features that should be there on launch and that are getting canceled after they make their sales.
@Rand with the success of the steam deck and rog ally maybe not this generation making a handheld, but next generation they make a handheld instead of an equivalent of the S model and an X model equivalent.
If Jez says something usually the opposite happens, the guy can't stop catching L after L
hope we see old Activision titles for backwards compatible?
2:14:24 HEYYYYY, bro, a Linux BRO but that’s my job I work IT security
GAZ is awesome! You 2 are awesome too of course!
Happy belated Rand 🎉
Any Reason Jez can't talk about Forza MS, I'm worried?
Jez, BG 3 act 1 and act 2 are way more than 50 hs of gameplay.
Act 1 last me 73 hours
The Starfield hype is unreal. Sometimes all it takes is great games, maybe someone should tell
Phil. Lol
Happy b day rand
Jez I have the same earbuds. They are awesome and better then headsets.
Hmmm not all round they aren't, but fair play.
I enjoy them just my opinion lol
Is it possible to get the opening song somewhere?
I believe Starfield is going to "Sublime" because Microsoft has focused solely on next gen and PC. This game will be fully optimized to use the lastest and greatest gaming Technology.
XBOX SUMMER SHOWCASE
You guys always rush through the question from your most ardent supporters ie Patreon…I’ll wait while you look up ardent…,…that’s why I unsubbed, I’m not an inconvenience…get it together.
I have a crazy idea, but wanted to share it.
Xbox should phase the series S' out. I say set a 6m to a year date and say the Series S will no longer have parity after that date. Stop production of the black Series S. And in that 6m to year window offer a deal for Series S trade ins. Say trade in your Series S and pay $100 and get a Series X. $100 off for Series S owners, and Series X owners get games that aren't held back by Series S.
I get how that is $100 loss per traded Series X's for Microsoft, but they are willing to pay around 69 billion for Activision, so selling/trading for a Series X at a $100 loss and no longer having the parity headache, seems worth it.
Imo, if someone can afford a $300 to $350 Series S, then they should be able to wait, save up another $200, and just get an X.
That's a terrible idea, unless you want them to kill their ability to sell any console ever again.
If devs were actually wringing all they could out of the machine and coming up short it would be one thing, but they aren't. Not a single game has come out that actually uses the RDNA2 featureset built into both machines, most of which are specifically meant to *save on RAM usage*. As for games "being held back," the only example anyone can point to is Baldur's Gate 3, and that is due to the peculiar set of circumstances surrounding the game itself - it was designed for PC, and is still using DX11, more than 8 years after DX12 came out with many features that would allow them to cut down on RAM usage.
The fact is that textures make up the vast majority of RAM usage for nearly every game, and 4k textures are 4x the file size of 1080p textures, and more than twice the size of 1440p textures (see Jedi Survivor, which came in at 44 GB on Series S and 140 GB on Series X).
@@ScubaSnacks How do you know that BG3 is only game to have issues? That's not what has been reported. There are a couple different dev teams that have said Similar things, but have been blown off as having a Sony bias. Along with, "rumors," devs don't like having to build games with 2 different systems on 1 platform.
The Xbone one S and Series S were kind of an experiment. Phil and Xbox thought offering a cheaper version of the console, along side their more expensive, more beefy console, would lead to more people buying into the Xbox Eco system. That has basically been proven false. And overall it may have worked in selling more consoles to simply charge less money for the X. Which would mean losing more money per console, but ultimately more people bought a PS5 at $400. And with having games also available on PC, which I think is a great thing, tbh, they reduced the need for people to get a S or X, as well.
Now, Xbox didn't foresee Covid, and all the supply issues that was going to create. And it certainly hurt Series X sales. I could have gotten an S, fairly close to the S and X releasing. But I didn't want an S, and I didn't want to pay almost double or slightly less than double for an X. So it took me close to a year to get my X. Literally 3 days, shy of 365 days of launch. And I've been an early new generation/premium guy, forever. I also have also typically bought the more expensive console offered. I bought the black 360 elite console, and initially bought an OG Xbox one, but upgraded to a Scorpion when made available. Had Covid not hurt supply chains, would have had an X within a week of launch.
I guess what I'm trying to say is I believe I'm one of many who would prefer to have the beefiest console of every generation, and doesn't want a lesser console, from a company that demands all, "NEW," IPs be playable on both, negatively impacting, holding back, or leading to games completely skipping my console of choice.
Even CEO Swen Vinke of Larian Studios himself said that, and I quote, "I don't think the Series S is holding back gaming," but rather that it simply takes more work to develop for. If even the BG3 devs are saying the Series S isn't holding gaming back, then who are you to say that the Series S is holding gaming back?
Xbix needs to keep any IP mojang has and sell the studio off. Mojang doesn't do shit but sit on minecraft, which doesn't need to be done.
Mojang keeps updating and supporting one of the biggest games of all time. They aren't exactly sitting on their asses doing nothing. Pretty sure they are doing a decent bit by raking in millions upon millions of dollars.
Mmmm short episode, this won't last my full shift at work 😢
Next gen in 2026 over mid gen refresh
Happy birthday rand!!
Sure ur not blushing rand........!!
Verry easy, ubisoft is in bad financial waters.
This divergence makes them a bit better and gives good relationship with xbox.
Aka ubisoft gets bought after the abk deal and the streaming rights are back to xbox + all of ubisoft
closer over them
When MS says 4 games a year, that is not the same as what gamers have in mind when they think about games. I mean, Spencer listing games such as Hi-Fi Rush or that new Minecraft game, what's it called? Those are not "big" games. That's not what gamers want. Gamers want 4 games a year the size of Starfield (well, that is xtra large lol) or Fable or Perfect Dark. AAA big budget games. To be fair, not even Sony manages such a cadence.
I don't like the sound of this. Rand is reading instead of playing Starfield and jez is playing armor core 6 instead of starfield. I hope this isn't a bad sign lol.
Dude, Jez literally says at 1:13:05 that he has put an absurd amount of hours into Starfield already. And Rand says earlier in the podcast that he's been playing Starfield every day. You think if the game was trash he would be doing that?
Also at 1:21:40 Jez literally says that "there's a lot of good stuff going on at Xbox" and that he's "pretty excited for the future of Xbox." Again, if Starfield was mediocre or was trash, do you think Jez would say he's excited about the future of Xbox?
Yes. God forbid you get tired of playing one game for many days.
It was a joke (tee hee) calm down. I know the games gunna be good
@@albertforline9175 okay lol, well I thought you were serious, my bad
3:51:41 ooff Jez must not be confident about Starfield if he thinks this.
What? Jez literally also says earlier in the podcast that he expects that Starfield woll do really well in sales. If he thought Starfield was trash, he wouldn't say that.
With their games coming to PC day one I am not surprised Xbox is not selling as well as last gen. This was super briefly mentioned but isn't this a huge factor?
selling boxes is not the metric for xbox, if you take phil at his word. they want engagement of their games and services on whichever platform you prefer. just as Nintendo does its own thing, Xbox is now doing its own thing..
@@johncollins9438 I totally agree. Was just a little surprised that some would be surprised that Xbox is not selling as well as before when all their games are now on PC. Especially with how big PC gaming has become. For the reasons you mention I think Xbox consoles will still be around a long time, to provide that option, but unless something terrible happens in the PC space I can't see Xbox console numbers suddenly surging upwards and beyond vs last gen or anything like that.
Xbox hasn’t any unit sellers tho this gen. Starfield will definitely move Xbox units even if it’s on pc. The amount of Sony people I know buying an Xbox as well just for starfield is huge. And then IF Xbox delivers in 2024 they will close the gap with Sony more so when it comes to units sales. Pc gaming is still niche compared to how many people own consoles in the world
I can't stop laughing at all the poor toenails so triggered because sony has no games and XBOX and PC has all the games can't wait to play STARFIELD while all the poor toenails will only watch STARFIELD on RUclips and cry about it RUclips😂😂😂 great times ahead for PC and XBOX sony has no games 😂😂😂
I still find it hilarious that Xbox and Sony fans fight so much. In today's market just buy a PC. More and more playstation games are dropping on PC.
Not everyone can afford a PC, for one, and two, PC ports aren't as consistent as console ports have been recently. There have been more awful PC ports lately than bad console ports.