Why Ayanokoji VS COTE Isn't Close.

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  • Why Ayanokoji VS All of COTE Isn't Close. How Smart is Ayanokoji Kiyotaka? And how smart is compared to his verse? well in this video we will see the feats from the ACTUAL Series.
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  • @AventSir
    @AventSir  5 месяцев назад +15

    Subscribe! Thanks for waiting
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    • @lelieutenant7386
      @lelieutenant7386 5 месяцев назад +1

      did you used a book to make the video ?

    • @AventSir
      @AventSir  5 месяцев назад

      nah @@lelieutenant7386

  • @yraehn
    @yraehn 5 месяцев назад +145

    "At first , I cried . I cried because I missed people , and then I learned that no one was coming to help me" ... Dam... That hit hard

    • @Mr.WestcottX
      @Mr.WestcottX 5 месяцев назад +6

      For real. Poor Koji 😢

  • @ishan61
    @ishan61 4 месяца назад +12

    Kiyotaka's ability to adapt any situation makes him dangerous

  • @TZILLA.
    @TZILLA. 5 месяцев назад +148

    Very good video, thank you for explaining the FSIQ categories in detail. Ayanokoji is truly underrated, his anticipation,Strat,FSIQ, manipulation is more potent then others realize it to be. I see lots of people downplay Ayanokoji by saying “he manipulates high school students” which is a bad argument since from birth koji was trained to use these skills in the actual political world. The feats koji does now can also be used against adults if needed he’s already been shown to be smarter then everyone in his verse as of now anyways.

    • @AhmadMunif694
      @AhmadMunif694 5 месяцев назад +3

      Why do I see all Lelouch PFP in a Koji video?

    • @Saul-Badman
      @Saul-Badman 5 месяцев назад

      Damn bro.​@@AhmadMunif694

    • @macaco4395
      @macaco4395 5 месяцев назад +2

      And why didn't you see what content creators from cote BR do. they take ayanokouji for shit and glorify koenji. For some Brazilians Koenji is superior

    • @phxerg9779
      @phxerg9779 5 месяцев назад

      Ayanokouji is terribly overrated, not even close to being underrated in the community

    • @TZILLA.
      @TZILLA. 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@phxerg9779 can you please give me your reasoning for thinking this ? How is he terribly overrated in terms of outsmarting qualities?

  • @hmkyomu
    @hmkyomu 5 месяцев назад +72

    Ayanokouji's feat is incredibly overpowered

    • @Yogirisolosfiction
      @Yogirisolosfiction 5 месяцев назад

      Only cpi

    • @Abdullah7536
      @Abdullah7536 4 месяца назад +6

      @@YogirisolosfictionNo, quite nearly any ability of his is overpowered….Being OP is relative to one’s verse. He slams everyone for a reason. It doesn’t include smart characters from outside verse or something like that

  • @macaco4395
    @macaco4395 5 месяцев назад +20

    Hugs from Brazil, best COTE channel. Kinugasa should give you recognition on twitter. you are incredible.

    • @AventSir
      @AventSir  5 месяцев назад +1

      Appreciate it 🙏

  • @kiasack
    @kiasack 4 месяца назад +7

    What I love about the series is that as smart as he is, his intelligence isn't physically impossible like L and Lights his is actually achievable/Possible!

  • @preemoart
    @preemoart 5 месяцев назад +27

    Avent-sama dropping bangers 🔥🔥🔥

  • @-ySaint
    @-ySaint 5 месяцев назад +22

    i really hope in year 3 we actually get to see him try

  • @user-dd7hv2sx5b
    @user-dd7hv2sx5b 3 месяца назад +2

    As Russian I Also Can Say That It's Technically Right To Say "Fyodor Dostoevskiy" On English.
    Because It Will Be More Accurate Prounoncing.
    😅
    [And If I Remember Correctly The Fact That I Know Engish On Such High Level By Being A "Regular Russian Ex Tech Student" Is Called Lingvistic Intelligense.
    :)]

  • @gamershub992
    @gamershub992 5 месяцев назад +6

    This worked more than the docs released every day regarding koji😀😀

  • @Sarim_Ibad
    @Sarim_Ibad 5 месяцев назад +13

    Avent is back!!

  • @kiptop3418
    @kiptop3418 5 месяцев назад +42

    Ayanokoji is the one piece that all are missing,
    A masterpiece 🦖

    • @smolbean2263
      @smolbean2263 5 месяцев назад +3

      One Piece???

    • @caoinismyname
      @caoinismyname 5 месяцев назад +1

      What's with the t-rex? hahaha

    • @zabranrafasandya4812
      @zabranrafasandya4812 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@smolbean2263 can we get much higher?

    • @zabranrafasandya4812
      @zabranrafasandya4812 5 месяцев назад

      T-rex 💀

    • @vexenss
      @vexenss 4 месяца назад

      @@caoinismyname he has a 11 inch yk and people call him t rex because of that

  • @years-ti7xl
    @years-ti7xl 5 месяцев назад +11

    Remember, he is trained for the political world by Atsuomi so I think that in itself paints a picture.

  • @simiclue2114
    @simiclue2114 5 месяцев назад +5

    really good video. Im excited to see a detailed video regarding the x case. Im patienty waiting :)

  • @Ray-pk7fe
    @Ray-pk7fe 5 месяцев назад +12

    Wake up babe. Avent uploaded 🔥.

    • @NonAryanDuck
      @NonAryanDuck 5 месяцев назад

      Ok pookie

    • @N-Ice_
      @N-Ice_ 5 месяцев назад

      Yooo Ray what's your DC account?

    • @Ray-pk7fe
      @Ray-pk7fe 5 месяцев назад

      @@N-Ice_Yo bro iamray_07

    • @Ray-pk7fe
      @Ray-pk7fe 5 месяцев назад

      @@N-Ice_ iamray_07

    • @Ray-pk7fe
      @Ray-pk7fe 5 месяцев назад

      @@N-Ice_ iamray_07

  • @Powerbomb323
    @Powerbomb323 5 месяцев назад +7

    The only other person who has a memory feat much greater than anyone else but still insanely far under Kiyotaka is Yagami, another WRoomer. With remembering the info on every student after hearing once. I think it was on the OAA app?

    • @xandercrow3400
      @xandercrow3400 4 месяца назад +4

      He memorised a lot more information than just that available on the OAA app. Takuya memorised all of their names, addresses, parents and friends from childhood names, all the schools they attended, clubs both school clubs and extracurricular, every single grade that they achieve from their time in school, interview answers, brief summaries of their past including Kushida destroying her class, Kei getting bullied, Hirata's friend attempted suicide, Ichinose's shoplifting and quite a decent amount more but I'm not gonna go into all of it but yes Takuya's memory feats are insane, he also has great PSI and CPI with the Tablet feat on the 2nd island exam

    • @Powerbomb323
      @Powerbomb323 4 месяца назад +1

      @xandercrow3400 that's what I thought. But yeah easily Number 2 in memory, I think.

  • @suffocatedgem
    @suffocatedgem 4 месяца назад +2

    Thank you for nineteen minutes of straight Ayanokoji glaze.

  • @WRmasterpiece494
    @WRmasterpiece494 5 месяцев назад +23

    Yea Ayanokoji basically slaps around his entire verse i think the only person who has the potential to even get near him is yagami

    • @ak-rise
      @ak-rise 5 месяцев назад +2

      And he got no diffed by koji

    • @jamalsmalls49
      @jamalsmalls49 5 месяцев назад

      Tsukishiro, Atsuomi, Kijima >>>

    • @Tyler_Durden213w
      @Tyler_Durden213w 5 месяцев назад

      HAHAHAHA bro got expelled by a love letter. Koenji #2 best

    • @Mr.WestcottX
      @Mr.WestcottX 5 месяцев назад

      Not even close, to Koji in the curriculum level 10 while he was in the curriculum 5-6.as the best 5th generation. 😂

    • @zarosderer4447
      @zarosderer4447 4 месяца назад

      @@Tyler_Durden213w who which love letter?

  • @CJ-D-GOAT
    @CJ-D-GOAT 5 месяцев назад +5

    Good video

  • @auqa232
    @auqa232 5 месяцев назад +4

    Can you do a video on Yagami vs Koenji?
    Also great video!

  • @yeikelamores6085
    @yeikelamores6085 4 месяца назад +3

    I wondered how Ayanokoji compares to the likes of Budokai Goku and Xeno Goku, both of whom are nearly omniscient.

  • @neilraphael751
    @neilraphael751 5 месяцев назад +5

    Hyouka music in the background. Yes I noticed

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 5 месяцев назад +4

    Love your content 😊😊❤❤❤

  • @Andrewsmith-qq5te
    @Andrewsmith-qq5te 5 месяцев назад +2

    w vid man keep it up

  • @reflex9238
    @reflex9238 5 месяцев назад +2

    Bruh beat me right to it, I wasn't sure if you'd get to Classroom of the Elite and scale Ayanokouji's feats. You'd think you'd ever do a L vs Ayanokouji video as they're said to be child prodigies, and both are experts in psychological warfare. Considering the types of match ups for L and Light thus far have been pretty one sided I believe this is way more even and has potential for either side to win. Great video overall and glad you got to pick up Classroom of the Elite.

  • @nameless_johan
    @nameless_johan 5 месяцев назад +4

    Where can I find the entire book list referenced in COTE?

  • @adrianskog7908
    @adrianskog7908 Месяц назад

    I know Ayanakoji's a fictional character but I just found out that there people very similar to him the condition he and other real people have is called hyperthymesia which allows that person to recall any detail of any memory even at an early age.

  • @khadramo1235
    @khadramo1235 25 дней назад

    It’s crazy how it generally just came from the white room what they taught him his skills to be honest with you if Ayanokoji didn’t go to the white room and went to ANHS he wouldn’t really be smart but he would have influence from his dad
    Anyway great vid avent🗿

  • @justinwhaley1288
    @justinwhaley1288 2 месяца назад +3

    He may be complex but he just wants a simple life

  • @Ju1ian.0205
    @Ju1ian.0205 5 месяцев назад +2

    Just finished my 9th rewatch😹🙏 next video when ?

    • @AventSir
      @AventSir  5 месяцев назад +1

      Couple days hopefully 🥲

  • @rhanimation4123
    @rhanimation4123 5 месяцев назад +2

    Yoooo let’s gooo

  • @theendofthestart8179
    @theendofthestart8179 4 месяца назад +2

    that is the most painful to read text ive seen, but also im high as a kite so maybe thats my fault

  • @Buggie5566
    @Buggie5566 4 месяца назад +2

    Takuyas table feat >FMA🤷‍♂️ but koji still takes it

  • @bhopipip9590
    @bhopipip9590 5 месяцев назад +2

    Bro the text of explaining isn t the best, it moves, is blurry and some times it feels difficult to read.

  • @Vegitooeditz
    @Vegitooeditz 5 месяцев назад +9

    Ayanokoji is actually underrated as hell , yeah he is very overhated to make him very weak that even Yuuichi solos him , that's very not good
    But you scaled him very well , he got the respect as he got

    • @_Sxoul
      @_Sxoul 4 месяца назад

      Isnt it cuz of his fanbase or something that makes him overhated?

    • @Vegitooeditz
      @Vegitooeditz 4 месяца назад +4

      @@_Sxoul Yeah because of himself's fans they overrated Ayanokoji so much that he got overhated

    • @_Sxoul
      @_Sxoul 4 месяца назад

      @@Vegitooeditz he himself as a character is goated but imo yuuichi>koji in character/enjoyability but he still a cool character

    • @Nither23
      @Nither23 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@_Sxoul enjoyability sure but as a over all character Koji>>Yuuichi

  • @Spongedbob-yh7wp
    @Spongedbob-yh7wp 5 месяцев назад +1

    Still with all of that even with his full potential he stays a yamauichi victim

  • @Blessas
    @Blessas 4 месяца назад +1

    I wonder who would win in a battle of intelligence and/ or strength. Ayanokoji or Loid from Spy x Family

    • @joses3235
      @joses3235 4 месяца назад

      Ayanokoji ez cuz he will exploit the fact Loid is a spy and do sum to Anya.

  • @margon9181
    @margon9181 5 месяцев назад +6

    4:02 Fire your audio editor 😂

  • @CMRAHEAD
    @CMRAHEAD 4 месяца назад +1

    whoa you have great background music taste. whats the song at 2:00 please?

    • @AventSir
      @AventSir  4 месяца назад

      Thantanos Grisaia

  • @notthegreenranger3726
    @notthegreenranger3726 5 месяцев назад +5

    I wanna watch the video but IDK if there's gonna be spoilers 😭

    • @user-nl3ed2vk7t
      @user-nl3ed2vk7t 5 месяцев назад

      There is, almost everything about this video has spoilers.

  • @kiri9164
    @kiri9164 5 месяцев назад +1

    when will bro make a video on phos

  • @J.U.S.T..M.O.N.I.K.A
    @J.U.S.T..M.O.N.I.K.A 4 месяца назад +1

    And people still thinks yuuichi is smarter than ayanokoji💀

  • @AhmadMunif694
    @AhmadMunif694 5 месяцев назад +3

    W edit bro,Ok outta topic question hope you answer.You know Lelouch and watched Code Geass right?Iyo does he stomp Light and Ayanokoji also L.Please answer

    • @frzy970
      @frzy970 5 месяцев назад +2

      Lelouch Is smart but I still think koji would stomp him

    • @AhmadMunif694
      @AhmadMunif694 5 месяцев назад

      @@frzy970 Even Though I like Lelouch more.I would still say that Ayano has better intellect and Potential since he was literally in a organization of geniuses.But sorry bro Lelouch still better at general outsmarting

    • @frzy970
      @frzy970 5 месяцев назад

      yeah Lelouch has had some amazing feats but I think that if koji was Lelouch's spot he would've done it better job. He wouldn't let his emotions get in the way. @@AhmadMunif694

    • @AhmadMunif694
      @AhmadMunif694 5 месяцев назад

      @@frzy970 That's a very Invalid Argument.Soem characters aren't fodder because they lose sometimes.Koji doesn't have the leadership quality and charisma like Lelouch.Koji would more likely work in the shadows more then Lelouch.Lelouch lost sometimes not because of His emotions.Sometimes it was sthe plot that made him lose.He is more emotional then Koji.But also a better manipulator and Deceptionist then Koji.He literally Conquered the Earth and Brought world peace.Koji just don't have the Real life experience to beat Lelouch

    • @Bic-daxc69
      @Bic-daxc69 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@AhmadMunif694I would say lulu is better at RLS with influence but koji wins in situations such as cat and mouse and FS as well as RLS no influecne

  • @fielpanganiban6463
    @fielpanganiban6463 3 месяца назад

    nice video i am literally ayanakoji

  • @KristopherDorsey-rq8ek
    @KristopherDorsey-rq8ek 2 месяца назад

    Potential Videos you could do in the future if you're interested is L vs cote or beyond birthday vs cote all these are not includeding koji just Canon L though.

  • @Troyzb2
    @Troyzb2 14 дней назад +1

    Yamagod solos.

  • @user-cv4lo8tg8h
    @user-cv4lo8tg8h 3 месяца назад

    No that i think of it are the perfect human?

  • @Deflamed_Sphere
    @Deflamed_Sphere 5 месяцев назад +1

    yup

  • @watts.n
    @watts.n 4 месяца назад

    I feel like if season 4 comes around he's gonna transfer to class A eventually.

    • @randomchannel609
      @randomchannel609 Месяц назад

      He’s transferring to the class that becomes the new class D (Not saying which one is the new class D cause spoilers ofc)

    • @watts.n
      @watts.n Месяц назад

      @@randomchannel609 ah okay

  • @_Sxoul
    @_Sxoul 4 месяца назад

    Can johan solo cote tho? Btw W video❤

  • @teodorsimonyan5067
    @teodorsimonyan5067 4 месяца назад +1

    Bro whats is the name of the violin OST that plays at 5:55 ?

    • @AventSir
      @AventSir  4 месяца назад +1

      psychoanalysis in tomodachi game ost

  • @lelieutenant7386
    @lelieutenant7386 5 месяцев назад +1

    against the absolute genius, only the absolute idiot can win. Black room for the W!

  • @ItzSwxzy
    @ItzSwxzy 5 месяцев назад +2

    1:14 holy shi idk koji fans actually used hypeboles as feats 😭

    • @ItzSwxzy
      @ItzSwxzy 5 месяцев назад

      @@OTK-118 yea, in other words exaggeration bc his character is fantasized as a “perfect human”

    • @ItzSwxzy
      @ItzSwxzy 5 месяцев назад

      @@OTK-118 no it aint. And it is, the narrative is using kojis perspective to support a hyperbole.

    • @ItzSwxzy
      @ItzSwxzy 5 месяцев назад

      @@OTK-118 how does this change the fact its a hyperbole?

    • @fa7355
      @fa7355 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ItzSwxzy It isn't hyperbole, and it isn't a feat exclusive to him but all late survivors from his generation. They're more mentally advanced but similarly emotionally immature than other WR generations and experienced adults. That's just the result of their curriculum

    • @darkside6610
      @darkside6610 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@ItzSwxzyi guess you don't even know what the device hyperbole even mean literally. Everything has been stated and showed in vol 0. Kid koji when he was born he could see his fingers and was aware of them and the white ceiling since his birth. Kid koji when not even understanding adult language (Japanese) when they were talking to themselves, koji thought to himself "when I'll learn the language maybe I'd know what they were talking about" and he remembered all those complicated words. He beat mercenaries, instructors of wroom with ease. Now that's hyperbole? Scientists talking about how the beta curriculum was never meant to be applied on a human because that's ridiculous and kid koji by age 11 surpassed the system. Thats hyperbole? The white room lead scientist Suzukake even said he regret that he made a curriculum this inhuman and Ayanokoji surpassing that made him realise and he said it himself that Koji is an anomaly. He is the definition of adaptation genius and he is a result of genetic mutation. Thats a hyperbole? I say Ayanokoji is god like being in front of every human if he shows his true potential what he is capable of

  • @LillaMig
    @LillaMig 5 месяцев назад +2

    What's the song name in the beginning (0:00 - 0:20)

    • @AventSir
      @AventSir  5 месяцев назад

      Manabu theme COTE s2 enryu

    • @LillaMig
      @LillaMig 5 месяцев назад +1

      tysm bro@@AventSir

  • @user-en8tt4uu3g
    @user-en8tt4uu3g 4 месяца назад

    The mount of abilities Kiyotaka use and shows to readers in to other people (mostly)
    V0 = 0%~100%
    Y1V1~Y1V2 = 5%
    Y1V3~Y1V4.5 = 10%
    Y1V5~Y1V6 = 15%
    Y1V7~Y1V7.5 = 20%
    Y1V8~Y1V9 = 25%
    Y1V10~Y1V11.5 = 30%
    Y2V1~Y2V2 = 35%
    Y2V3~Y2V4.5 = 40%
    Y2V5~Y2V7 = 45%
    Y2V8~Y2V9.5 = 50%
    Y2V10~Y2V11 = 55%

    • @Chrystianisaw
      @Chrystianisaw 13 дней назад

      How do you know these percentage

  • @alishahzad1884
    @alishahzad1884 Месяц назад

    the thing is that ayanokoji have insane feats from WR but when ayanokoji shows his planning and tactics they are not the same level as WR feats like he have insane logic feats from WR but his planning they are not same level as white room feats what i am trying to say is that ayanokoji have feats like he rmember everything when he was born he beat up fighters when he was a little kid he beat chess computers in chess match he use logic when he was a baby he saw things if adults saw they will pass out he solved math which adults find hard to solve but ayanokji does not have a feat that shows that all of these ayanokoji WR feats are real or not like the author is telling us that ayanokoji have all of these insane feat without giving us any proof just like todo the author said he have 530,000 IQ which no one is beliving that because todo does not have any feats that shows he have 530,000 if we say a character is smart because all of these feat then i can create the smartest character in anime even i find a way to outsmart ayanokoji so why ayanokji is said to be really intelligent like light yagami or L

  • @Remisaku
    @Remisaku 5 месяцев назад +2

    Doesn't matter when Subaru slams

    • @xenobreyden
      @xenobreyden 5 месяцев назад +12

      You mean the mentally impaired kid who was randomly reborn into a harem with savefiles?

    • @Remisaku
      @Remisaku 5 месяцев назад

      @@xenobreyden he doesn't have a harem he has only two people who he loves in that way and doesn't everyone bitch in vote loves ayanokoji and Subaru doesn't need to use his powers to no diff this fodder ass verse

    • @Remisaku
      @Remisaku 5 месяцев назад

      @@xenobreyden so don't never compare Subaru to this dog shit character again you god damn clown

    • @Remisaku
      @Remisaku 5 месяцев назад

      @@xenobreyden so say that shit again you dumb fuck

    • @Remisaku
      @Remisaku 5 месяцев назад

      @@xenobreyden don't never talk about Subaru again to because you obviously don't know what your bitch ass is talking about

  • @christiankylepinlac6038
    @christiankylepinlac6038 5 месяцев назад

    Idk why everyone saying that ayano can only manipulate highschool students but u guys forgot to check or read that while u guys complaining he's already manipulated adults in cote just watch it carefully and you guys will understand if u guys still cant find it ill give u a small clues do u for people who read LN
    Spoiler: remember when yagami got expelled remember who are the people involved.
    As for anime watcher
    Spoiler: when he was talking to he's father Dr. Ayanokoji the chairman came there to protect Ayanokoji strange? I am afraid not just a coincidence

  • @leqstareu3507
    @leqstareu3507 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yall are acting like what he said isnt correct. Morality is subjective to man because each human has different experiences and has grown up differently. I can sit here and say ppl like hitler are wrong cause i genuinely believe they was. But whether hitler himself or the taliban believe they’re wrong or not is entirely outside of my control.

  • @phxerg9779
    @phxerg9779 5 месяцев назад +3

    Koenji victim

    • @Bic-daxc69
      @Bic-daxc69 5 месяцев назад +6

      Keep crying lil bro get him past yagami 🥱

    • @phxerg9779
      @phxerg9779 5 месяцев назад

      @@Bic-daxc69 Yagami aayaya XDDDDD

    • @Bic-daxc69
      @Bic-daxc69 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@phxerg9779 yes cope get koenji past tsukishiro in combat
      Or nagumo in outsmarting honestly

    • @phxerg9779
      @phxerg9779 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Bic-daxc69 You are delusional if you believe that determines who is a winner between thoose two,
      -Literally, last volume.

    • @Bic-daxc69
      @Bic-daxc69 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@phxerg9779 you are delusional if you think koenji being confident proves a damn thing he still has not a single feat to outsmart takuya or nagumo in outsmarting or a single fighting feat to beat tsuki and shiba koenji having confidence while he doesn't know anything about koji doesn't prove anything especially since koji only said he would be a challenge to beat if his skills were better than his own which is already a very hard if not almost impossible condition to fulfill and even then koji only said it would be challenging not even that he would lose

  • @ConnorJones-hm1kg
    @ConnorJones-hm1kg 4 месяца назад

    Theres koenji who is a complete unknown, and sakayanagi is still not fully known on her potential. This is because the only comparison directly was a battle where kiyo had a slight advantage in position due to horikitas chess position. Too many unknowns to claim he can solo

  • @theone1246
    @theone1246 5 месяцев назад +2

    Ayanokoji is OP done wrong.
    Change my mind?

    • @Abdullah7536
      @Abdullah7536 4 месяца назад +4

      I don’t think so. People just don’t understand that he is a completely different kind of character than he are used to.
      His goal and the idea behind him is not to dominate everyone, but to how development can look like. We see Ayanokoji as a supporting character, as someone who strives for character development. Ayanokoji and Cote are so popular because it’s very intriguing, compelling and well-developed.
      He grapples with his own motivations and dilemmas.
      Ayanokoji's actions have significant consequences within the story, shaping the dynamics of the classroom and influencing the fates of other characters. His presence drives the plot forward and adds tension and suspense to the narrative.
      For a character such as Ayanokoji it would be bad written if there was someone who is a serious rival with relative strength, as that would overshadow the other characters.
      A character is OP done wrong when their abilities or characteristics detract from the narrative, diminish tension or conflict, and lead to a lack of engagement or investment from the audience. That obviously doesn’t apply to Ayanokoji.

    • @theone1246
      @theone1246 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Abdullah7536 while I agree that his goal is to develop the people around him to reach their full potential. He still dominates every obstacle that blocks his way, Ryuuen, Nagumo, Yagami. Not to mention whenever another character is met with a challenge, who do they call? AYANOKOJI! and he fixes the issue no problem. How do you expect characters to grow when they can’t do anything themselves, since they rely on him for everything it completely undermines the other characters, take Suzune for an example, the only reason she is the way she is today is 100% Ayanokoji’s doing, he babied her throughout her entire character arc to point where Manabu acknowledged him more than her. I bet you can’t name a single Suzune feat that did not include Ayanokoji.
      Idk what your definition of OP done right or wrong is, but personally I believe when a character is impossible to defeat, when there’s not only a gap in power levels but a complete wall separating him and every other character, it completely removes all tension and the villains don’t feel like threats. Imo that’s what OP done wrong is, an example of OP done right would Saturo Gojo, even his power and abilities far exceed other characters but we are SHOWN that there ways to defeat him, as seen from Toji and Sukana. You understand what I’m trying to say? This is my opinion of course and your opinion is an interesting one and I respect that. I just hope to add my perspective on the topic.

    • @Abdullah7536
      @Abdullah7536 4 месяца назад +2

      @@theone1246 Good to know that you are not a hater or anyone that throws baseless accusations in.
      While there are people that are getting annoyed or tired of Ayanokoji’s dominance, to many people there is still a lot of thrill.
      It is thrilling and exciting to see his outsmarting plays. However, it only appeared that the tension goes away, even though it’s only temporary(due to Y2V8,9,9.5,10,11). There is and was even in Y2 a lot of tension, considering the WR students and now that Ayanokoji’s plans are threatened due to Ryuuen and Sakayanagi’s bet. It is still very interesting and exciting to see him navigating those challenges, coupled with factors like Nagumo and more.
      While Ayanokoji helps people out of their problems pretty often, it still shouldn’t be denied that the other students have no own merit. For example, Horikita managed the class throughout the exams of Y2V9-10. She also beat Ryuuen’s class in Y1V6, or when she managed the tension in the class and directed everyone to expel Yamauchi. There are other instances as well, in which Ayanokoji only needed to correct slight mistake to make it “perfect”.
      There are several cases also for other characters.
      It is not to be denied that many characters benefited only due to Ayanokoji, though I see it as a way for Kinu to portray development in a different way, and definitely in contrast to something like the WR.
      Ayanokoji also encourages more healthy and natural development, even if he manipulates the circumstances. He allows the students to realize their own faults instead of blatantly pointing it out.
      An overpowered character done wrong is one that lacks depth, development, logical consistency within the story's context, limitations, effort to resolve situations and of consequences or impact on the story.
      While I believe it’s clear that none of that above applies to Ayanokoji, some people seem to think that he doesn’t have limitations. That’s not true though.
      Aside from Ayanokoji being limited by his understanding of the outside world(like in social trends), he also has times where he has inaccurate judgements(like in V7 of what choice Kei would make or in Y2V9 the telephone call with Satou where he misread her feelings), or where he faces backlashes due to the uncertainty of the future. Ayanokoji can obviously not predict what exactly the future offers for him. This has been shown by the bet in Y2V11, Sakayangi’s first appearance, Atsuomi and Tsukishiro…..

    • @theone1246
      @theone1246 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Abdullah7536 I guess at the end of the day it’s just a matter of preference. I’m not trying to be a hater and I don’t necessarily hate his character but obviously he’s not my favourite, you make a strong argument and given me a lot to think about. You can’t blame people for believing that Ayanokoji doesn’t have limitations, technically he does have them but they don’t affect the main story in a big way, making him appear perfect. Maybe Kinu is waiting for year 3 for his limitations to come to light but we’ll have to wait and see. As for Ryuuen and Sakaynagi’s bet, I don’t think kinu has the balls to expel one of his more popular characters especially since there’s a whole year left. I’m curious to know what you think of that.
      But my biggest gripe with Ayanokoji, is that it’s safe to assume that by the end of the series, he will suffer a genuine loss. Which is impossible as of right now, especially since Vol 0’s release, and the character who I believe the narrative is rooting for is Suzune and I think most of the fandom agrees with that. It’s hinted throughout the series that Ayanokoji wants to lose and Suzune being the one person who spent the most time with him to the point where she straight up read his mind, you think it would be possible but after Vol 0 there’s no way in hell. That’s why I think Ayanokoji’s OP abilities will a have a negative impact on the story. But I’m curious to know what you think?

    • @Abdullah7536
      @Abdullah7536 4 месяца назад +1

      @@theone1246 Well, I believe Kinu mentioned in an interview a few months ago that a major character will be expelled at the end of the year(it has been translated and sent in the Reddit server as well). But we will see what happens.
      Here I will also wait and see what happens. Ayanokoji also aims at marking his name on the students and letting them go through his social experiment. We only have a vague idea what that is.
      But I think it will show itself what might happen throughout the next volumes. I don’t believe in the Horikita beating Ayanokoji thing though, and I don’t know what Kinu has to offer, but it is more interesting for him to stay unpredictable, I guess.

  • @Ju1ian.0205
    @Ju1ian.0205 5 месяцев назад +3

    W but shikamaru victim