Its not scr, its chariot requiem, it doesn't get its full name because the arrow wasnt fully absorbed, it was merely punctured, not deemed worthy by the requiem arrow so it had to protect the arrow But yes, chariot requiem is incredibly powerful, if they didn't notice the shadows they would have been fucked, they would have all died and there would be a roaming death zone around wherever charriot requiem meanders to
Chariot requiem is technically an incomplete requiem, which is even referenced by the name being incomplete(no silver chariot requiem, just chariot requiem). Chariot requiem goes rogue because polnareff dies during the transformation and is barely saved by CR's ability. It is implied that it would be controllable by polnareff if it had ample time to properly evolve
@@EmenussGOamazing when the fuck did it ever mention bringing the arrow to Jotaro??? His wish was that NOBODY obtains the arrow that's why CR ability indiscriminately triggers when anyone goes near. Pretty sure not even Jotaro could get close
@@GlizzyGoblino what was the last command polnareff gave it? protect the arrow and bring it somewhere safe, which is why CR started walking out and heading somewhere else where the arrow would be safe
Purple haze requiem: 2020 pendemic King crimson requiem: forget-my-identity ability Sex pistols: never shoots a fourth bullet and somehow skips the number 4 no matter what
Bohemian Rhapsody requiem: Ungalo discovered that he is a fictional character and makes himself in to the real life (our reality) and makes jojos real.
Requiems are something we don’t completely understand, and I think that is a reason they don’t get talked about often. Their is another RUclipsr, Kaleb AI, who did theory videos of what stands abilities would be if they became Requiems. Like Hierophant Green from part 3. To my understanding, after part 5, the Arrows were never talked about again. Instead going to different universes/alternate realities. So this certainly doesn’t help on us understanding how these items work, and introduce new Requiems. But honestly, with D4C, The World, and Made In Heaven being the standard Stands, we don’t need anything more powerful.
METAs Cool! I’ve gotten into JoJo about last month, and I’ve been binging videos a few years old. And Holy Shit, what the hell have I been missing out on?
"Worthy" in JoJo is actually very easy to understand, alot of people didn't gain a stand due to they being weak (not Holy btw because she is worthy is just that her stand itself being forced out making it slowly killing her, the same case as Josuke) example of this is Koichi Hirose, he didn't gain Echoes on his 1st trial due to being not compatible with the stand virus nor a strong will to do whatever situation he was in (not really sure about strong will anyway because Angelo and his Geb but eh).
actually, the reason why the mutations happen is because it *controls the souls of all living beings* and turning these souls into unidentifiable, otherworldly creatures and nothing else, not because it's a defensive ability. with enough time, it's theorized that all life on earth would've been completely different if they didn't pursue chariot requiem also, the reason why chariot requiem was an automated stand was because polnareff died before it completely transformed, so it had gone rogue without a stand user *also* the shadow you see on chariot requiem is always opposite to your position no matter where you are and that's why everyone sees it differently *also also* king crimson doesn't skip time, it obliterates time for about 10 seconds so diavolo can escape his own fate within the erased time. everyone else will move as fate declares them to move but diavolo moves freely and cannot interact with anything during this time. fortunately, fate eventually corrects itself, so diavolo eventually got the punishment he deserved for trying to escape fate all those years ago. *also also also* GER kills you over and over infinitely without you reaching your death because of its "return to zero" ability, not because it's just something random
Yeah Diavolo's ability is a Fate ability like Made in Heaven, not a temporal one And yeah GERs infinite death loop is a combination of its revert to 0 and life giver ability. The entirety of those infinite deaths likely happens within an instant
i think fate really did favour diavolo, in his battle against risotto we see him in his epitaph getting his feet cut off and having a hole through his head. And we still see that happen to him, just not what we expected (like instead of his foot, it's risotto's). Either way it still happened just as he saw it. And in his battle against GER we saw in his epitaph that king crimson busted a hole through Giorno's chest, epitaph is always right. In conclusion, i think GER isn't favoured by fate, it's more like GER is immune to fate. We also heard GER saying "what you are seeing is indeed the truth but i'll never let you reach that truth" he didn't say his epitaph is wrong, he said his epitaph is right but he won't let that happen.
I always wondered if GER put Diavolo in a somewhat pocket dimension where all he does is die. As we saw in the show, as soon as Diavolo was about to die he was instantly put into another situation in a whole different place and he couldn’t control any of it. Maybe it is just my brain going oof.
i think diavolo"s death loop ended the moment it started cuz his mind and his body would be reset to the point right before he dies and the he gets killed again
"GERs stand ability is Perfect Zero/Set everything back to zero" This is kind of a half-serious half-joke question, but what if you had the power to "divide by zero" or had the power to go below zero (-1).
That sounds interesting, i'll try to theorize how that could translate into a stand ability. I‘ll use Golden Experience Requiem vs Diavolo as an example. 1. Mathematically, dividing by zero would mean that you approach (but also never reach) infinity and negative infinity at the same time. Maybe reality for Diavolo would be split in two, one where the fated outcome happens and one where the exact opposite outcome happens. Diavolo has only one soul and would experience both of them simultaneously. To Giorno and everyone else, Diavolo would be in a permanent state of "equilibrium" where he continues to be technically alive but can't do anything anymore because both of his realities cancel each other out to zero. 2. Resetting to -1 would be "negative fate", at least if what was fated to happen was 1. Golden Experience Requiem resets to 0 and doesn‘t allow Diavolo to get to 1. If Gold Experience Requiem did reset to -1, Diavolo wouldn't end up killing Giorno because epitaph did predict him killing Giorno before the ability was activated. This one would be underwhelming, all Diavolo would now have to do is to wait for a prediction where he fails to kill Giorno. From that point onwards, it would be a cat-and-mouse game between Giorno and Diavolo.
Diavolo is still stuck in the infinite death loop and is unaffected by the universe reset because GER is constantly resetting time to zero, which means that Diavolo lies outside the linear timeline. He is constantly dying again and again in a single moment that is unaffected by anything outside his timeloop
I don't really think the reason why Polnareff "isn't worthy" is simply because he's a cripple, mainly because of how, at least in the anime, Diavolo notes how Silver Chariot "hasn't lost any of its power". Even beyond that you could argue the Silver Chariot that fought Diavolo is slightly stronger than the one that fought DIO, considering more years of experience, though that's pure speculation. Either way, I think mobility was the main drawback to Polnareff being crippled, rather than any loss in power. I'd argue the arrow chooses beings more on their resolve, considering that's what Giorno's character basically embodies. It could also be that Polnareff's body dying broke away the distinction from full-fledged stand to automatic (in the manga, since the anime clearly shows Polnareff briefly saw Requiem beforehand), but that goes more into the speculation territory. For Chariot Requiem's ability, at the very least from the Colored Manga Scans, which I find to be pretty accurate (though correct me if I'm wrong), when Polnareff starts to swap he says "The ability to switch souls between bodies is, in other words...the ability to switch creatures from our world with something else!". I think the keywords here are "our world", which implies souls from other dimensions are being brought in, rather than creating life. Honestly, I find that to be a more OP ability than creating life lol. I also looked over how Chariot Requiem was defeated in the manga and while Diavolo did figure out destroying the light behind his soul would kill Chariot Requiem, he specifically didn't do that so he would stay in his own body. This is shown when Bruno completely destroyed the light. Again, I quote from the Colored Manga Scans: "You found it yourself...the way to destroy Requiem...behind your head...no, there is something behind each one of our spirits...looks like I just need to break it...you didn't finish Requiem off because you wanted the arrow. But if I completely destroy this...that will extinguish the ability of the Berserk Stand Requiem...and all our swapped souls will [return to normal]". It isn't a major distinction, but I find it very noteworthy when discussing the power of Chariot Requiem. Sorry for the super SUPER long comment, I know these things are an absolute chore to read. I just really love part 5 and want to make sure I fully understand the intent of the story. Again, correct me if you think I'm wrong on any of these points, I'm free to change my mind on things lol.
Tear Drop It has been shown that your soul is your identity, which is why F.F. has a human soul and why Doppio and Diavolo have separate souls despite being the same person with a split personality. Heavy Weather makes you believe with a constant subliminal image that you are a snail so much your soul actually makes you a snail
@@theancientone7798 interesting analysis! Also quick note, we’ve never seen diavolo’s soul, only doppio’s ;) all representations of Diavolo’s soul have been through KC, make of that what you will haha
I think Polnareff is worthy of the arrow, but not strong enough to control it when he discovered it, and can't control it at all in the Requiem arc because, well, he died.
Diavolo lies outside the linear timeline since GER resets time to zero . So it doesn't matter since nothing in the original universe can affect Diavolo since he is constantly stuck in a timeloop
I've seen someone make a parallel between ger and king crimson, That kc erases the consequences of something and ger erases the cause , which of course leads to erasing the consequence. But what if there was a stand that could move objects through time and effectively changing the order of cause effect. Maybe this could be a stand that can beat ger but would still lose to kc and would create a JoJo stands rock paper scissors. Interesting right
You forgot about Killer Queen: Bites the Dust, personally I think he counts because it was a result of a stand user being pierced by the arrow a second time
Part 6 Never??? Yeah I know, and it's gained when Kira is pierced by the arrow a second time. The arrow also automatically came to him deeming him worthy exactly the way it did Giorno. So I feel like Killer Queen technically became a requiem stand.
I think it's a sun requiem,fate in jojo is said to follow justice,kira have the will but he doesn't follow justice,so the arrow only give a tatse of the requiem arrow
Requiem was only introduced until part 5, and it has a whole category of it with some other stabbed stand users as it examples (eg. Pucci and DIO) and since requiem are only obtainable by the perfect arrow (aka requiem arrow) it make sense that Yoshikage Kira's Killer Queen: Bite The Dust would rather be known as a sub stand or another stand if you might say
The only way I think giorno could die would if he died by accident like in a natural disaster as there would be no intent/willpower or action to reduce to zero but that's only a guess
Anything that isn't considered an attack could possibly have a chance at bypassing GER's defence. The age manipulating stands might work. If Giorno is unlucky enough to make the first move, WOU's calamity might do the trick. And I'm pretty sure Superfly could metalize Giorno, considering that it's a constant passive effect with no "intent"
No, he could be killed by anything else, that anything else just needs to blitz him, or catch him off guard. If he dies, or Requiem dies, so does the other.
@@MManiaZone GER literally has a mind of its own and works instantaneously and is trigger by the mere intent of a opponent not even waiting for their actions
It waited until Diavolo was like, an inch from Giorno's face, so I don't know what you're talking about. And yes, it does have a mind of its own, but if someone's capable of, for example, blitzing Giorno, the exact same would apply to GER.
He forgot to mention that if you attack the life that gold experience creates the damage gets instantly redirected to you. Tbh i think Araki forgot this as well since giorno only used this ability like twice lmao.
The rebirth ability idea could possibly apply golden wind ability to already existing life like golden wind gives life/birth to objects like turning a brick into a snake GER could do the same but to already existing life instead like turning a person into something like a crab or monkey (which might rival or even be stronger than the power of ultimate Kars)
At 6:09 I'm pretty sure that the way you are to be worthy, you have to have a strong desire, and it has to feel that you have the strongest desire of anyone. That's probably why chariot requiem protects the arrow, is because that polnareffs desire to protect the arrow carried to requiem and will do anything to protect it.
I think the requiem arrows do 2 things, the first is it evolves your stand and give it a new ability that’s consistent every time you use the arrow, the second is that it gives your stand an ability that helps you with what you want at the moment, like with silver chariot, the first time it got pierced by the arrow everyone was knocked out like the second time in rome, so that’s his constant ability, and the ability to control stands to protect itself and the arrow is the second ability because polnareff wanted to keep the arrow away from diavolo, with GER, perfect zero is the first ability and the infinite deaths is second one
I think Polnareff not being able to control chariot requiem is because he died when it turned and the arrow made it automatic, a stand’s strength is tied to your mental strength not physical. Since a stand is usually supposed to die when the user does, chariot somehow didn’t register that Polnareff was dead when it was pricked. And how to defeat it would explain the light, because if the light is your soul (or what ties your soul to the world), destroying it would make chariot think it was Polnareff was dead and die too. That’s just what I think.
this is my theory is. since requiem stands are sentient, you need to tame it first. like ger rtz diavolo's action, that's not giorno protect himself or ger protect giorno to keep him alive. ger protect giorno cause he want it, he got ger's respect, he's worthy to be protected by him.
GE:R is so absurdly overpowered that his abilities theoretically soft-lock any battles he has with the vast, vast majority of overpowered characters in fiction.
The way i've learned to interpret GER's infinite death is just an expansion of the previous hightened mental functions of hitting a living being. Its like turning that up to infinity, such that the experience of death is repeated forever in the infintesimally small period of time before complete death. If GER was to punch a person experiencing any sensation, it could lock in that sensation for an infinite amount of time from the perspective of the punchee. due to the nature of this ability, i suspect it would have to kill whoever it touches as there can be no "After" infinity.
I always saw the reset to zero ability as an extension of giving life and infinite death concept, in that if a stand has essentially complete control over the spectrum of life and death or even cause and effect, surely it would stand to reason that it would be able to find the perfect zero point of that scale
To anyone who reads this comment warning ⚠️ ⚠️⚠️ spoilers ahead if you don’t wanna be spoiled on part 6 jojoba please don’t read this you have been warned now to those who don’t know this in part 6 the villain Pucci did not necessarily reset the universe there’s a big misunderstanding about part 6 partly due to a lot of people speed reading through stone ocean and not understanding context in the story 1st. Pucci heaven plan involved making a world where everyone knows their fate this is what dio and Pucci idea of heaven is and after achieving made in heaven Pucci sped up the universe to the singularity point to create the exact same universe with the biggest difference being that people know their fate/future and accepting it now before he did this JoJo and the gang were all killed accept one and after finding this out Pucci rewinded time undoing the heaven plan and going back to the start of part 6 meaning everything that happened after Jotaro and Jolyne met in the prison room didn’t happen and after Pucci was defeated the dead soles of our heroes were reincarnated into different lives but the good news is that there all still friends the only difference being name changes and no more ⭐️ birth marks and no stands now let me be clear Jotaro and his daughter are different from there original selfs but despite this Mr. Joestar , Josuke ,and Giorno are still their regular selfs meaning they still have ⭐️ birth marks and stands while Jotaro and Jolyne don’t . Yes all of what I said in this comment is 100% true it’s not a fan theory part 6 and 7 have nothing to do with each other part 7 Steel ball run just pays homage to the original parts , part 7 and 8 are there own cannon meaning both are cannon if you don’t believe me watch Hamon Beat RUclips channel if don’t believe me, I hope this helps ⭐️
I call g.e.r.'s ability time reversal and time looping, basically g.e.r. manipulates the flow of time negatively turning it back and based on what ability is being used you can say I invades the realm of exelorated time slowing and reversing it, making it as though you cant see the true outcome anymore because g.e.r. changed it with his ability to rewind time.
10:26 Probably answered already, but. It’s not hard to see how the infinite death loop works. I’ll use Killer Queen: Bites The Dust as an example in a Point A/B fashion. Kira using the stand for the first time can be considered Point A. An hour after activation, Rohan tried to extract information about Kira from Hayato, leading to his spontaneous combustion and the marking of Point B. Time resets to point A after that. Rohan, in this series of events, will no longer survive beyond one hour (Point B) without exploding because that’s what Kira’s twist of fate set out for him. Same thing with Diavolo, but instead of Point A, Diavolo’s death is returning to a state of 0, despite being fated to die. GER and Fate work in tandem in this way and chain together the phenomenon we now know as the infinite death loop.
Something a lot of people seem to get wrong is how the infinite death loop is started. Giorno doesn't have to kill someone to send them into a death loop, he only needs to hit them. Because we see at the end, diavolo survived the barrage, this is also backed up by Trish saying she can still feel his presence.
If I remember right, Pornalef said that he doesn´t have the strength to control his requiem stand, probably not only physically but also mentally, taking into account that he had to live for years in a villa in his condition, having to isolate himself, since Diavolo could discover him at any time.
the infinite death thing is reflects how brutal Giorno is and it is a metaphor for Diavolo as a character And nah it wouldn't have stopped the reset since Pucci had no bearing over the events of part 5, so him not existing would not affect the events of parts 1-5
I like to think of requiem as plot armor because the stand ability you get from the requiem arrow depends on what your desire is at the time polnareff wished to get the arrow away from diavolo so that’s the ability he obtained and GIORNO wanted to defeat diavolo and get past his time erasure and hence gained the ability to return to zero.
1 thing I did notice was they way you worded how Chariot Requiem's secondary ability works. The whole Stand control thing. Chariot Requiem does control Stands, but only when you get close to *The Arrow*, not Chariot Requiem itself. If you don't have a Stand and you try to pick up the arrow, Chariot Requiem will actually charge at you, and while yeah you could fight Requiem since it's physically there, simply throwing a rock at the arrow will make the rock come straight back and attempt to kill you.
@@Quimbee257 definitely not. otherwise his body would be dead while his soul keeps dying. But that didn't happen. gold experience requiem has explained his ability and he will know best what he can do.
I was under the impression myself that GER's ability was to make it so a person would not be able to reach an outcome unfavorable to the stand itself or it's user, forever, while the event still being 100% guaranteed to happen. It's a logarithmic curve where the line gets infinitely close to 0 but never reaches it. As a result Diavollo is trapped in that infinite death hell as a result of him still being under the effect of GER's ability but still destined to reach that outcome where he kills Giorno, forever.
Giorno literally is shown walking away once the fight was over, and he's still alive following the end of part 6 if we go by data books stats still showing ger's (which they show all concurrent stands in, can't remember which one off the top of my head) Edit; Able to be read w/o redundancy in wording now
Also, also. If that was how that worked, he could just send him in the loop again if the battle started again since it's an automatic defensive ability
@@Lucien_M oh yeah but like it would've made more sense to say part 8 cuz sbr is an event after all and yes its set in the same universe but it ended wait I just realized that the base universe is where the corpse parts are right so is that universe like the original one while the universes with all the other jojos are not well idk how to say it cuz its not like they aren't real
Requiem is basically Jojo's way of making your strongest desire to come true, in the bizarrest way possible. You want power? It'll give you power, but perhaps a bit altered. You want to protect people? You'll become an aegis.
I recently came from a video explaining Bites the dust, doesn't the fact that Kira used the arrow on himself (twice if I remember the vid correctly). doesn't that make Killer Queen a Requiem too?
Actually, he does have a third power, it’s also displayed in part 5. His healing is buffed up and he can basically make the balls of power you see in dragon ball
It’s not pol’s crippledness that makes him unworthy it is his resolve he has seen the power of the arrow and doesn’t want it to fall into the wrong hands and thinks he would get too drunk on power from it. Because of this fear he is unworthy.
Just realized what would happen if a non attack stand like coco jumbo or cheap trick or hey ya stand user would do if they tryed to get the arrow like maybe becuase there stands won’t hurt them maybe they could get the arrow much easier
giorno has a weakness, only one, just one, and that is... *drumroll please* ZA WARUDO, OVAAAHEAVEN! YOU EXPECTED A LACK OF BATTLE IQ, BUT IT WAS ME, DIO OVER HEAVEN!
I think that Killer Queen: Bites the Dust is a requiem too because Kira gained the ability after he got stabbed with the stand arrow even though he had already a stand.
I think that for the infinite dying ability for ger, its becuase ger also prevents the enemy from reaching yhe truth, and for most people (like diavolo) dying once is enough and they want to reach the truth of non-existence, which they will never get.
The requiem arrow grants the user a stand designed whit the wishes of the user. Giorno wanted to stop/fight king cremson and he gaind GER which is a perfect counter for king cremson, in contrast Ponaref wanted to protect the stand arrow so he gaind a stand witch protects the arrow without the need of a stand user. If you look at it this way Killer Queen Bite the dust is a requiem stand becouse when Kira got poked white the arrow he was trying not get his identity reweld so he got the ability to explode time to a previose spot when exposed.
Wasn't Chariot Requim described as being a berserk stand? It was implied that if you aren't a person with strong enough will you can't actually control the requiem version of your stand and it goes berserk, so to speak, which of course wasn't an issue with GER.
I can't remember the exact line but I believe there was a panel where it stated chariot reqium could caused people to swap body's with people from a different universe also I'm pretty sure infinite deaths is a pocket dimension ability
Requiems are crazy just crazy & has an no limit on what it can do. Now I wonder what would Made in heaven Requiem be, or if 'Heaven Stands' can achieve Requiem, or even if other Stands can have 'heaven' Counterparts. I just love talking about this stuff.
The dying forever ability is the energy giving ability but better basically it makes you mind percive not only a few seconds faster but years faster even after death the brain works for around 10 more min.Basically Diavlo brain functions for 10 min our time but for him it is millenia because of the energy boosting ability.
From my understanding, the requiem arrow is just a big "NO!" button for anything. You want to protect something no matter what? Here's an automatic Stand that's "untouchable" and won't die even if you die. You want to beat a stand that could attack you through bizzarre means? How about an invincible stand that could send opponents to literal infinite death. How fun!
I think tusk act 4 can do something against GER because the power of 0 is more a concept of nothless and the infinite of tusk is a concept of fullness so maybe the universe goes blue screen. Come to Brasil
I would argue the point that it's based on pure circumstances. If Johnny hits Giorno gets hit by Act 4 due to not pulling off Requiem in time. Let's be fair Johnny can just nail bullet shoot the arrow out of Giorno's hand and since his hand got hit by the infinite energy he's gonna become pasta til death. If Giorno pulls of GER and Johnny gets hit by giorno. It's basically a no rematch.
if giorno pulls off requiem against tusk act 4 i believe its a free win for giorno but if he doesnt pull it off in time well we know what would happend
There are 2 stands that are probably capable of defeat Ger that come to my mind: Bohemian Rhapsody: just create a character which story consist in canceling Ger abilitys or trap Giorno soul in a story, Ger probably cant reset to 0 bohemian rhapsody stories meanwhile Giornos body cannot use his stand if his soul is traped. Underword: Similar case to bohemian rapsody, the events created by underword cannot be change and will happen no matter what, countering Ger reset to 0 ability.
The worthy situation mainly depends if you survive the arrow just look at koichi but also if you are not worth and just survive the arrow like koichi did it would come out in some incomplete form
Yes that's right, however it's also extremely dangerous due to the wound that it give out as well so for a person like Polnareff who should be easily quality for something like a normal arrow, the requiem arrow evolved his stand into a requiem stand and he couldn't control it
@@yousefkhouryduckman it's different than other arrow, or it is what we would called the complete arrow, the one that will be able to fulfill what the creator of the arrow want to achieve, to create a god (Gold Experience Requiem)
GER can perform infinite death isn't a thing out of nowhere, GER ability is to decide when one start and end for every living being, so it went from easy to understand things like action, to ambiguous things like life and death
Polnareff confirmed that the requiem has the ability to manipulate soul on reality level already, we has other examples such as The World able to freeze soul, White Snake steal soul, Made in Heaven rewrite soul, and GER able to decide when thing end and start for pretty every living being
And Atum and Osiris being able to steal souls and put them in objects. Requiem being related to soul manipulation is just.... what? That's like saying Atum and Osiris are already requiem when they're not. That's like saying Black Sabbath can stab and grab soul because of what we've seen happen to the old man.
Here is my own opinion of SCR and the JPP power level debate. Imo, the argument the JPP can't control SCR or SCR being weak because it's automatic is kind of crazy because if you look at the situation that lead to SCR being awakened the first time, it was by share accident, he didn't know what had happened and what the power was so there was no way to know how it worked. So being afraid, he decided not to explore it further because he was crippled and older at that point, hence why he was trying to find someone worthy of the arrows power to defeat Diavolo. The second time SCR was awakened, JPP was literally being killed, so he summoned it and instructed it to protect the arrow. And this is just my opinion, the instructions given to automatic stands are by shear will of the user. Black Sabbath for example was instructed to pierce people trying to join Passione with the arrow, if they lived and got a stand, they were worthy to join, if they didn't, they died. But at no point is Polpo aware of where and how Black Sabbath completes this, it was given the command and it does what it was programmed to do. In SCR's case, right before JPP is about to be killed he instructs it to keep the arrow safe by any means necessary, so at that point he didn't really get to know if Giorno and Co. could be trusted, so he didn't add any special clauses like hey, give the arrow to this specific person, which explains why it defends the arrow from Diavolo and the good guys, it doesn't know who can be trusted and who is worthy because JPP is subdued before he could find out. Now, what I found interesting about it is the fact that SCR put JPPs mind in the turtle to save his life even though it protected the arrow from him too. Im not quite sure whether the ability is a mind swap or soul swap, but if it's just a mind swap then technically the turtle is still the turtle but with JPP's mind, so maybe it didn't listen to him because it doesn't see the turtle as it's master. Either way, if I was about to die and I gave my stand a dying wish, I'd expect it to do just that, and SCR is working ad intended. Now in regards to whether or not JPP could control it in his prime or as a cripple or whatever scenario, the answer is we will never know. The first time it was awakened, it was an accident, the second was near death, so we would never know. But seeing as Giorno was able to control GER, I'd would think JPP would eventually learn to control SCR if he had practiced and perfected Requiem activation. But with being an automatic stand, I'm sure commanding it through your Will to do something like defeating Diavolo or saving the world, SCR would work towards that, but if it is like Black Sabbath which it appeared to be, you would have to leave it up to the stand as to how those goals would be accomplished since you can't control its every action. Long-winded, I know, but tldr JPP perfecting SCR in theory is possible, but being an automatic stand, SCR can't be controlled in the same way as other types of stands. We saw this with Black Sabbath in the beginning of the series where you guve the stand a goal and its up to the stand on how that goal is met, so that's what makes SCR totally different from GER.
W+also there is a big problem'bout dio oh beat ger cuz dio must touch the thing to rm it but if he just have the intention to attack ger Automatically ger will use rtz on him and if we avoid this ger abillty itself is like rm so it should give him a resistance at least
correction in the SCR- Silver chariot can go requiem he is chosen by it but cant handle the power like code and jigen u know, he's capable of learning it but well every char in every season either get nerfed or buff so thats the reason why SCR is just automated stand but if actually polnareff can control it no one stand can defeat him
1. The reason Araki named it Chariot Requiem was because of Polnareff's inability to control his stand thus deemed it an incomplete stand, similar to how Mozart's requiem is also an incomplete song and was picked up by Sussmayr and became a complete requiem, similar to Giorno picking up the Requiem Arrow and finishing the Requiem Polnareff has started 2. CR even in full control wouldn't be able to beat GER as GER absorbed the requiem arrow thus absorbing the virus within it as well and able to freely control and manipulate souls in every possible ways
The one person who disliked was diavolo who didn't get the requiem arrow
Hahaha
@Ward Ulens nope its doppio
lolby the undying no it’s doppio
@@butters18no its doppio
12 dislikes are the times diavolo got the time to dislike before he died
SCR is underrated
As it is being overshadowed by GER
@@ironicjason257 lmfao
True
@@ironicjason257 true but scr is powerful too bro
Its not scr, its chariot requiem, it doesn't get its full name because the arrow wasnt fully absorbed, it was merely punctured, not deemed worthy by the requiem arrow so it had to protect the arrow
But yes, chariot requiem is incredibly powerful, if they didn't notice the shadows they would have been fucked, they would have all died and there would be a roaming death zone around wherever charriot requiem meanders to
Chariot requiem is technically an incomplete requiem, which is even referenced by the name being incomplete(no silver chariot requiem, just chariot requiem). Chariot requiem goes rogue because polnareff dies during the transformation and is barely saved by CR's ability. It is implied that it would be controllable by polnareff if it had ample time to properly evolve
Ye I wonder what would of happened if polnareff was not tragically injured and was able to stab silver chariot fully
It didn't go rogue. Its fulfilling Polnareff's final request. To keep the arrow safe and bring it to someone he trusts, in this case Jotaro.
@@EmenussGOamazing the thing is CR *kill* Polnareff
@@EmenussGOamazing when the fuck did it ever mention bringing the arrow to Jotaro??? His wish was that NOBODY obtains the arrow that's why CR ability indiscriminately triggers when anyone goes near. Pretty sure not even Jotaro could get close
@@GlizzyGoblino what was the last command polnareff gave it? protect the arrow and bring it somewhere safe, which is why CR started walking out and heading somewhere else where the arrow would be safe
Kore Ga Requiem, great vid and I agree that Chariot Requiem especially is very underrated in the community
Purple haze requiem: 2020 pendemic
King crimson requiem: forget-my-identity ability
Sex pistols: never shoots a fourth bullet and somehow skips the number 4 no matter what
Bohemian Rhapsody requiem: Ungalo discovered that he is a fictional character and makes himself in to the real life (our reality) and makes jojos real.
@@luisloaiza6796 sounds like a win to me
Sex pistols requiem is just a desert eagle with the ability you described
Aerosmith requiem: F-22 fighter jet
Requiems are something we don’t completely understand, and I think that is a reason they don’t get talked about often. Their is another RUclipsr, Kaleb AI, who did theory videos of what stands abilities would be if they became Requiems. Like Hierophant Green from part 3.
To my understanding, after part 5, the Arrows were never talked about again. Instead going to different universes/alternate realities. So this certainly doesn’t help on us understanding how these items work, and introduce new Requiems. But honestly, with D4C, The World, and Made In Heaven being the standard Stands, we don’t need anything more powerful.
lmao i know kaleb
METAs Cool! I’ve gotten into JoJo about last month, and I’ve been binging videos a few years old.
And Holy Shit, what the hell have I been missing out on?
a lot check out the homeboy meti
"Worthy" in JoJo is actually very easy to understand, alot of people didn't gain a stand due to they being weak (not Holy btw because she is worthy is just that her stand itself being forced out making it slowly killing her, the same case as Josuke) example of this is Koichi Hirose, he didn't gain Echoes on his 1st trial due to being not compatible with the stand virus nor a strong will to do whatever situation he was in (not really sure about strong will anyway because Angelo and his Geb but eh).
I was about to beat you because I thought you said Holly was weak
@@Solarballs77he was weak
actually, the reason why the mutations happen is because it *controls the souls of all living beings* and turning these souls into unidentifiable, otherworldly creatures and nothing else, not because it's a defensive ability. with enough time, it's theorized that all life on earth would've been completely different if they didn't pursue chariot requiem
also, the reason why chariot requiem was an automated stand was because polnareff died before it completely transformed, so it had gone rogue without a stand user
*also* the shadow you see on chariot requiem is always opposite to your position no matter where you are and that's why everyone sees it differently
*also also* king crimson doesn't skip time, it obliterates time for about 10 seconds so diavolo can escape his own fate within the erased time. everyone else will move as fate declares them to move but diavolo moves freely and cannot interact with anything during this time. fortunately, fate eventually corrects itself, so diavolo eventually got the punishment he deserved for trying to escape fate all those years ago.
*also also also* GER kills you over and over infinitely without you reaching your death because of its "return to zero" ability, not because it's just something random
Yeah Diavolo's ability is a Fate ability like Made in Heaven, not a temporal one
And yeah GERs infinite death loop is a combination of its revert to 0 and life giver ability. The entirety of those infinite deaths likely happens within an instant
@@Aj-py8en Ok
i think fate really did favour diavolo, in his battle against risotto we see him in his epitaph getting his feet cut off and having a hole through his head. And we still see that happen to him, just not what we expected (like instead of his foot, it's risotto's). Either way it still happened just as he saw it. And in his battle against GER we saw in his epitaph that king crimson busted a hole through Giorno's chest, epitaph is always right. In conclusion, i think GER isn't favoured by fate, it's more like GER is immune to fate. We also heard GER saying "what you are seeing is indeed the truth but i'll never let you reach that truth" he didn't say his epitaph is wrong, he said his epitaph is right but he won't let that happen.
1:29 R.I.P Jotaro’s little friend. Wonder how he got Jolyne
Hmm good question
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He got stabbed in the belly
@@Guest-qo5nl it kinda lower than that
I always wondered if GER put Diavolo in a somewhat pocket dimension where all he does is die. As we saw in the show, as soon as Diavolo was about to die he was instantly put into another situation in a whole different place and he couldn’t control any of it. Maybe it is just my brain going oof.
No I completely agree!
i think diavolo"s death loop ended the moment it started cuz his mind and his body would be reset to the point right before he dies and the he gets killed again
So Diavolo never actually died, after the fight, Giorno says that he will never reach the truth, even his death so its not infinite death loop
@@justaguywithamask6505 ye right before he died his body was reset to before he died
@@justaguywithamask6505 it’s an infinite near death loop. Infinite loop of suffering.
"GERs stand ability is Perfect Zero/Set everything back to zero"
This is kind of a half-serious half-joke question, but what if you had the power to "divide by zero" or had the power to go below zero (-1).
Good question but I’m not a theoretical physicist😅
That sounds interesting, i'll try to theorize how that could translate into a stand ability. I‘ll use Golden Experience Requiem vs Diavolo as an example.
1. Mathematically, dividing by zero would mean that you approach (but also never reach) infinity and negative infinity at the same time. Maybe reality for Diavolo would be split in two, one where the fated outcome happens and one where the exact opposite outcome happens. Diavolo has only one soul and would experience both of them simultaneously. To Giorno and everyone else, Diavolo would be in a permanent state of "equilibrium" where he continues to be technically alive but can't do anything anymore because both of his realities cancel each other out to zero.
2. Resetting to -1 would be "negative fate", at least if what was fated to happen was 1. Golden Experience Requiem resets to 0 and doesn‘t allow Diavolo to get to 1. If Gold Experience Requiem did reset to -1, Diavolo wouldn't end up killing Giorno because epitaph did predict him killing Giorno before the ability was activated. This one would be underwhelming, all Diavolo would now have to do is to wait for a prediction where he fails to kill Giorno. From that point onwards, it would be a cat-and-mouse game between Giorno and Diavolo.
black hole ?
Or a paracausal ability where zero is the result. Resetting it back to zero doesn't avoid the result because it is the result.
Diavolo is still stuck in the infinite death loop and is unaffected by the universe reset because GER is constantly resetting time to zero, which means that Diavolo lies outside the linear timeline. He is constantly dying again and again in a single moment that is unaffected by anything outside his timeloop
I don't really think the reason why Polnareff "isn't worthy" is simply because he's a cripple, mainly because of how, at least in the anime, Diavolo notes how Silver Chariot "hasn't lost any of its power". Even beyond that you could argue the Silver Chariot that fought Diavolo is slightly stronger than the one that fought DIO, considering more years of experience, though that's pure speculation. Either way, I think mobility was the main drawback to Polnareff being crippled, rather than any loss in power. I'd argue the arrow chooses beings more on their resolve, considering that's what Giorno's character basically embodies. It could also be that Polnareff's body dying broke away the distinction from full-fledged stand to automatic (in the manga, since the anime clearly shows Polnareff briefly saw Requiem beforehand), but that goes more into the speculation territory.
For Chariot Requiem's ability, at the very least from the Colored Manga Scans, which I find to be pretty accurate (though correct me if I'm wrong), when Polnareff starts to swap he says "The ability to switch souls between bodies is, in other words...the ability to switch creatures from our world with something else!". I think the keywords here are "our world", which implies souls from other dimensions are being brought in, rather than creating life. Honestly, I find that to be a more OP ability than creating life lol.
I also looked over how Chariot Requiem was defeated in the manga and while Diavolo did figure out destroying the light behind his soul would kill Chariot Requiem, he specifically didn't do that so he would stay in his own body. This is shown when Bruno completely destroyed the light. Again, I quote from the Colored Manga Scans:
"You found it yourself...the way to destroy Requiem...behind your head...no, there is something behind each one of our spirits...looks like I just need to break it...you didn't finish Requiem off because you wanted the arrow. But if I completely destroy this...that will extinguish the ability of the Berserk Stand Requiem...and all our swapped souls will [return to normal]".
It isn't a major distinction, but I find it very noteworthy when discussing the power of Chariot Requiem.
Sorry for the super SUPER long comment, I know these things are an absolute chore to read. I just really love part 5 and want to make sure I fully understand the intent of the story. Again, correct me if you think I'm wrong on any of these points, I'm free to change my mind on things lol.
I think Heavy Weather and it's weird uhhh..."snail power"...would be a fun video.
Well now I have three videos planned POG
Tear Drop
It has been shown that your soul is your identity, which is why F.F. has a human soul and why Doppio and Diavolo have separate souls despite being the same person with a split personality. Heavy Weather makes you believe with a constant subliminal image that you are a snail so much your soul actually makes you a snail
@@theancientone7798 interesting analysis! Also quick note, we’ve never seen diavolo’s soul, only doppio’s ;) all representations of Diavolo’s soul have been through KC, make of that what you will haha
@@rishic1030 probably to emphasize that Doppio is the original and diavolo is the alternate identitiy
I think Polnareff is worthy of the arrow, but not strong enough to control it when he discovered it, and can't control it at all in the Requiem arc because, well, he died.
Na the Diavolo/giorno fight is unafected in the ireneverse (only the pt 6 cast got changes) so yea he is still dying
Yes, only the people that died while made in heaven is active will get changed
Diavolo lies outside the linear timeline since GER resets time to zero . So it doesn't matter since nothing in the original universe can affect Diavolo since he is constantly stuck in a timeloop
@@moderncrusader1150 i suppose you got a point
Damn poor guy can't even catch a break
I've seen someone make a parallel between ger and king crimson,
That kc erases the consequences of something and ger erases the cause , which of course leads to erasing the consequence. But what if there was a stand that could move objects through time and effectively changing the order of cause effect. Maybe this could be a stand that can beat ger but would still lose to kc and would create a JoJo stands rock paper scissors. Interesting right
Kill Queen bites the dust will always be a requiem stand in my eyes...
You forgot about Killer Queen: Bites the Dust, personally I think he counts because it was a result of a stand user being pierced by the arrow a second time
Part 6 Never??? Yeah I know, and it's gained when Kira is pierced by the arrow a second time. The arrow also automatically came to him deeming him worthy exactly the way it did Giorno. So I feel like Killer Queen technically became a requiem stand.
I think it's a sun requiem,fate in jojo is said to follow justice,kira have the will but he doesn't follow justice,so the arrow only give a tatse of the requiem arrow
I’m pretty sure it is it’s just an early concept of a requiem stand
Requiem was only introduced until part 5, and it has a whole category of it with some other stabbed stand users as it examples (eg. Pucci and DIO) and since requiem are only obtainable by the perfect arrow (aka requiem arrow) it make sense that Yoshikage Kira's Killer Queen: Bite The Dust would rather be known as a sub stand or another stand if you might say
Sorry Johnny But I'm Quarintined the requiem arrow isn’t required it just give more powerful requiems since it has more mass
You should analyze infinite rotation and ta4 next
Infinite Death is kind of a developed version of the life shot; it just gives you life again and again
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The only way I think giorno could die would if he died by accident like in a natural disaster as there would be no intent/willpower or action to reduce to zero but that's only a guess
Yeah
Anything that isn't considered an attack could possibly have a chance at bypassing GER's defence.
The age manipulating stands might work. If Giorno is unlucky enough to make the first move, WOU's calamity might do the trick. And I'm pretty sure Superfly could metalize Giorno, considering that it's a constant passive effect with no "intent"
No, he could be killed by anything else, that anything else just needs to blitz him, or catch him off guard. If he dies, or Requiem dies, so does the other.
@@MManiaZone GER literally has a mind of its own and works instantaneously and is trigger by the mere intent of a opponent not even waiting for their actions
It waited until Diavolo was like, an inch from Giorno's face, so I don't know what you're talking about. And yes, it does have a mind of its own, but if someone's capable of, for example, blitzing Giorno, the exact same would apply to GER.
He forgot to mention that if you attack the life that gold experience creates the damage gets instantly redirected to you. Tbh i think Araki forgot this as well since giorno only used this ability like twice lmao.
The rebirth ability idea could possibly apply golden wind ability to already existing life like golden wind gives life/birth to objects like turning a brick into a snake GER could do the same but to already existing life instead like turning a person into something like a crab or monkey (which might rival or even be stronger than the power of ultimate Kars)
At 6:09 I'm pretty sure that the way you are to be worthy, you have to have a strong desire, and it has to feel that you have the strongest desire of anyone. That's probably why chariot requiem protects the arrow, is because that polnareffs desire to protect the arrow carried to requiem and will do anything to protect it.
I think the requiem arrows do 2 things, the first is it evolves your stand and give it a new ability that’s consistent every time you use the arrow, the second is that it gives your stand an ability that helps you with what you want at the moment, like with silver chariot, the first time it got pierced by the arrow everyone was knocked out like the second time in rome, so that’s his constant ability, and the ability to control stands to protect itself and the arrow is the second ability because polnareff wanted to keep the arrow away from diavolo, with GER, perfect zero is the first ability and the infinite deaths is second one
It gives soul domination abilities
Scr: has a pretty op ability
Also scr: gets killed by hitting your back
I think Polnareff not being able to control chariot requiem is because he died when it turned and the arrow made it automatic, a stand’s strength is tied to your mental strength not physical. Since a stand is usually supposed to die when the user does, chariot somehow didn’t register that Polnareff was dead when it was pricked. And how to defeat it would explain the light, because if the light is your soul (or what ties your soul to the world), destroying it would make chariot think it was Polnareff was dead and die too. That’s just what I think.
He couldn't control it before, and it was when it wasn't even fully evolve like the 2nd times
this is my theory is. since requiem stands are sentient, you need to tame it first.
like ger rtz diavolo's action, that's not giorno protect himself or ger protect giorno to keep him alive. ger protect giorno cause he want it, he got ger's respect, he's worthy to be protected by him.
Wonder of u requiem would be the most broken thing ever
simply knowing its existance without even thinking about pursuing it immediately puts you in the calamity
Weaker or equal to GER, no higher (unless your stand is sort of an evolution already like Kars's Ultimate stands but we won't talk about that)
it's nice that you add Franklin Richards in this 10:04 moment
Truly Excellent as always in your videos.
And i never thought bout if Diavolo infinite DeathLoop stopped after the Rest Universe
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So basically god in arrow form
GE:R is so absurdly overpowered that his abilities theoretically soft-lock any battles he has with the vast, vast majority of overpowered characters in fiction.
Kore Ga Requiem!
yes
The way i've learned to interpret GER's infinite death is just an expansion of the previous hightened mental functions of hitting a living being. Its like turning that up to infinity, such that the experience of death is repeated forever in the infintesimally small period of time before complete death.
If GER was to punch a person experiencing any sensation, it could lock in that sensation for an infinite amount of time from the perspective of the punchee. due to the nature of this ability, i suspect it would have to kill whoever it touches as there can be no "After" infinity.
I always saw the reset to zero ability as an extension of giving life and infinite death concept, in that if a stand has essentially complete control over the spectrum of life and death or even cause and effect, surely it would stand to reason that it would be able to find the perfect zero point of that scale
There was also that whole 'stands get stronger after they've been body swapped' for chariot requiem that got super briefly touched on.
To anyone who reads this comment warning ⚠️ ⚠️⚠️ spoilers ahead if you don’t wanna be spoiled on part 6 jojoba please don’t read this you have been warned now to those who don’t know this in part 6 the villain Pucci did not necessarily reset the universe there’s a big misunderstanding about part 6 partly due to a lot of people speed reading through stone ocean and not understanding context in the story 1st. Pucci heaven plan involved making a world where everyone knows their fate this is what dio and Pucci idea of heaven is and after achieving made in heaven Pucci sped up the universe to the singularity point to create the exact same universe with the biggest difference being that people know their fate/future and accepting it now before he did this JoJo and the gang were all killed accept one and after finding this out Pucci rewinded time undoing the heaven plan and going back to the start of part 6 meaning everything that happened after Jotaro and Jolyne met in the prison room didn’t happen and after Pucci was defeated the dead soles of our heroes were reincarnated into different lives but the good news is that there all still friends the only difference being name changes and no more ⭐️ birth marks and no stands now let me be clear Jotaro and his daughter are different from there original selfs but despite this Mr. Joestar , Josuke ,and Giorno are still their regular selfs meaning they still have ⭐️ birth marks and stands while Jotaro and Jolyne don’t . Yes all of what I said in this comment is 100% true it’s not a fan theory part 6 and 7 have nothing to do with each other part 7 Steel ball run just pays homage to the original parts , part 7 and 8 are there own cannon meaning both are cannon if you don’t believe me watch Hamon Beat RUclips channel if don’t believe me, I hope this helps ⭐️
Oh, a video about golden chariot requiem and silver experience requiem!
I call g.e.r.'s ability time reversal and time looping, basically g.e.r. manipulates the flow of time negatively turning it back and based on what ability is being used you can say I invades the realm of exelorated time slowing and reversing it, making it as though you cant see the true outcome anymore because g.e.r. changed it with his ability to rewind time.
"you'll never reach the truth" even at death, every action Will never reach its truth, thats the real ability of GER
Golden Experience Requiem and his abilities never gets old
10:26 Probably answered already, but. It’s not hard to see how the infinite death loop works.
I’ll use Killer Queen: Bites The Dust as an example in a Point A/B fashion. Kira using the stand for the first time can be considered Point A. An hour after activation, Rohan tried to extract information about Kira from Hayato, leading to his spontaneous combustion and the marking of Point B. Time resets to point A after that. Rohan, in this series of events, will no longer survive beyond one hour (Point B) without exploding because that’s what Kira’s twist of fate set out for him.
Same thing with Diavolo, but instead of Point A, Diavolo’s death is returning to a state of 0, despite being fated to die. GER and Fate work in tandem in this way and chain together the phenomenon we now know as the infinite death loop.
GER decide when things end and begin for a person
Something a lot of people seem to get wrong is how the infinite death loop is started. Giorno doesn't have to kill someone to send them into a death loop, he only needs to hit them. Because we see at the end, diavolo survived the barrage, this is also backed up by Trish saying she can still feel his presence.
GER doesn't even need to hit them, they only need to be affected by RTZ
If I remember right, Pornalef said that he doesn´t have the strength to control his requiem stand, probably not only physically but also mentally, taking into account that he had to live for years in a villa in his condition, having to isolate himself, since Diavolo could discover him at any time.
Chariot was awakened before the diavolo fight polnareff just took the arrow from it
the infinite death thing is reflects how brutal Giorno is and it is a metaphor for Diavolo as a character
And nah it wouldn't have stopped the reset since Pucci had no bearing over the events of part 5, so him not existing would not affect the events of parts 1-5
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@@METAsMETAs what's confusing?
I'll think it is the punishment for anyone who try to best fate
I would love to see more canon requiem forms, Hopefully in part 9
I like to think of requiem as plot armor because the stand ability you get from the requiem arrow depends on what your desire is at the time polnareff wished to get the arrow away from diavolo so that’s the ability he obtained and GIORNO wanted to defeat diavolo and get past his time erasure and hence gained the ability to return to zero.
man if polineriff controlled his requiem he definitely wouldn’t need to avoid stairs anymore 💀
What i expected: more info on best boi Pol
What i get: unworthy cripple
1 thing I did notice was they way you worded how Chariot Requiem's secondary ability works.
The whole Stand control thing.
Chariot Requiem does control Stands, but only when you get close to *The Arrow*, not Chariot Requiem itself.
If you don't have a Stand and you try to pick up the arrow, Chariot Requiem will actually charge at you, and while yeah you could fight Requiem since it's physically there, simply throwing a rock at the arrow will make the rock come straight back and attempt to kill you.
What I see in requiem is that it boost normal abilities and adds a new ability involving manipulation over souls.
gold experience requiem has nothing to do with souls.
@@florianschneider3982 clearly you haven't done your research
@@florianschneider3982 infinite deaths is soul manipulation
@@Quimbee257 definitely not.
otherwise his body would be dead while his soul keeps dying.
But that didn't happen.
gold experience requiem has explained his ability and he will know best what he can do.
@@florianschneider3982 dude his body is dead. His soul is being replayed in a place of zero then to death and then resetting. His body is long dead.
i feel like if MIH was a requiem nothing would matter
MiH is already a persudo-requiem
In Jorge Joestar there's a Requiem version of MiH
@@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838 novel and stuff are uncanon, Araki only illustrated them
Plot twist. Diavolo only started dying faster for eternity after made in heaven
I was under the impression myself that GER's ability was to make it so a person would not be able to reach an outcome unfavorable to the stand itself or it's user, forever, while the event still being 100% guaranteed to happen. It's a logarithmic curve where the line gets infinitely close to 0 but never reaches it. As a result Diavollo is trapped in that infinite death hell as a result of him still being under the effect of GER's ability but still destined to reach that outcome where he kills Giorno, forever.
Giorno literally is shown walking away once the fight was over, and he's still alive following the end of part 6 if we go by data books stats still showing ger's (which they show all concurrent stands in, can't remember which one off the top of my head)
Edit; Able to be read w/o redundancy in wording now
Also, also. If that was how that worked, he could just send him in the loop again if the battle started again since it's an automatic defensive ability
What if Wonder of You is just the SBR version of SCR?
Huh? Wdym sbr version
@@jojobizarrelivingstone594 the SBR Universe
@@Lucien_M but wonder of u isnt from sbr its from jojolion lol or do you mean in terms of looks cuz stands can look like anything
@@jojobizarrelivingstone594 the SBR Universe is the universe in which parts 7-8 take place
@@Lucien_M oh yeah but like it would've made more sense to say part 8 cuz sbr is an event after all and yes its set in the same universe but it ended wait I just realized that the base universe is where the corpse parts are right so is that universe like the original one while the universes with all the other jojos are not well idk how to say it cuz its not like they aren't real
Requiem is basically Jojo's way of making your strongest desire to come true, in the bizarrest way possible. You want power? It'll give you power, but perhaps a bit altered. You want to protect people? You'll become an aegis.
It gives soul manipulate abilities
@@hainguyn948 I'm talking about how acquiring requiems and how they work in general.
@@ReiAkaris yes... And I'm correcting it 😐
@@hainguyn948
I don't think you understood what I mean. I'm not talking about Chariot Requiem, I'm talking about the concept of requiems.
@@ReiAkaris and I'm also talking about the concepts of Requiem 😐
And I have the scan for that as well
I recently came from a video explaining Bites the dust, doesn't the fact that Kira used the arrow on himself (twice if I remember the vid correctly). doesn't that make Killer Queen a Requiem too?
No, only the scarab arrow is the one that can make a requiem stand, it's stated by polnareff, and Trish(kinda) in part 5.
Thinking about the idea of a stand without a user is spine tingling
Would any other Shonen be affected by CR's counter attack with a hamon like spirit energy like chi or nen if they went for the arrow?
Gers third ability is to fly
GER reset gravity to zero
The way I like to imagine it:
Gold Experience Requiem
Ability: *No.*
Actually, he does have a third power, it’s also displayed in part 5. His healing is buffed up and he can basically make the balls of power you see in dragon ball
Hehe balls
It’s not pol’s crippledness that makes him unworthy it is his resolve he has seen the power of the arrow and doesn’t want it to fall into the wrong hands and thinks he would get too drunk on power from it. Because of this fear he is unworthy.
Chariot Requiem is honestly pretty terrifying
Just realized what would happen if a non attack stand like coco jumbo or cheap trick or hey ya stand user would do if they tryed to get the arrow like maybe becuase there stands won’t hurt them maybe they could get the arrow much easier
giorno has a weakness, only one, just one, and that is...
*drumroll please*
ZA WARUDO, OVAAAHEAVEN!
YOU EXPECTED A LACK OF BATTLE IQ, BUT IT WAS ME, DIO OVER HEAVEN!
@@Pumpk1nh3ad ik
I think that Killer Queen: Bites the Dust is a requiem too because Kira gained the ability after he got stabbed with the stand arrow even though he had already a stand.
I think that for the infinite dying ability for ger, its becuase ger also prevents the enemy from reaching yhe truth, and for most people (like diavolo) dying once is enough and they want to reach the truth of non-existence, which they will never get.
The requiem arrow grants the user a stand designed whit the wishes of the user. Giorno wanted to stop/fight king cremson and he gaind GER which is a perfect counter for king cremson, in contrast Ponaref wanted to protect the stand arrow so he gaind a stand witch protects the arrow without the need of a stand user. If you look at it this way Killer Queen Bite the dust is a requiem stand becouse when Kira got poked white the arrow he was trying not get his
identity reweld so he got the ability to explode time to a previose spot when exposed.
Wasn't Chariot Requim described as being a berserk stand? It was implied that if you aren't a person with strong enough will you can't actually control the requiem version of your stand and it goes berserk, so to speak, which of course wasn't an issue with GER.
what about gold experience's damage reflection ability
I can't remember the exact line but I believe there was a panel where it stated chariot reqium could caused people to swap body's with people from a different universe also I'm pretty sure infinite deaths is a pocket dimension ability
its not hes creating new universes/dimensions every milisecond to give diavalo a new death
Requiems are crazy just crazy & has an no limit on what it can do. Now I wonder what would Made in heaven Requiem be, or if 'Heaven Stands' can achieve Requiem, or even if other Stands can have 'heaven' Counterparts. I just love talking about this stuff.
I wonder if the infinite death ability always activate when killing someone or if you can make it so they just dies once
The dying forever ability is the energy giving ability but better basically it makes you mind percive not only a few seconds faster but years faster even after death the brain works for around 10 more min.Basically Diavlo brain functions for 10 min our time but for him it is millenia because of the energy boosting ability.
GER can decide when things begin and end for every living beings, so it can literally decide a person's status of life and death
Tusk requiem, anything jonny or tusk requiem touch, they can choose to spin, and yes, that means ALL matter they touch
i think what it means by infinite deaths is your first death gets reset and you die again and this always repets
From my understanding, the requiem arrow is just a big "NO!" button for anything.
You want to protect something no matter what? Here's an automatic Stand that's "untouchable" and won't die even if you die.
You want to beat a stand that could attack you through bizzarre means? How about an invincible stand that could send opponents to literal infinite death.
How fun!
GER can manipulate soul in every possible ways
Why nobody says about the "ilussion power" Of the ger? Is this real or a translation error?
I think tusk act 4 can do something against GER because the power of 0 is more a concept of nothless and the infinite of tusk is a concept of fullness so maybe the universe goes blue screen.
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It depends on how you look at infinity.
As a concept, or as a number.
As infinity times 0 is still 0
I would argue the point that it's based on pure circumstances. If Johnny hits Giorno gets hit by Act 4 due to not pulling off Requiem in time. Let's be fair Johnny can just nail bullet shoot the arrow out of Giorno's hand and since his hand got hit by the infinite energy he's gonna become pasta til death.
If Giorno pulls of GER and Johnny gets hit by giorno. It's basically a no rematch.
if giorno pulls off requiem against tusk act 4 i believe its a free win for giorno but if he doesnt pull it off in time well we know what would happend
Infinity will have no end, but have a start, simply put GER returns it to where Johnny never shot at him ever.
There are 2 stands that are probably capable of defeat Ger that come to my mind:
Bohemian Rhapsody: just create a character which story consist in canceling Ger abilitys or trap Giorno soul in a story, Ger probably cant reset to 0 bohemian rhapsody stories meanwhile Giornos body cannot use his stand if his soul is traped.
Underword: Similar case to bohemian rapsody, the events created by underword cannot be change and will happen no matter what, countering Ger reset to 0 ability.
It'd be cool if we got a what if of jjba, and we get to see kcr, spr, twr, cdr some requiem stands.
The worthy situation mainly depends if you survive the arrow just look at koichi but also if you are not worth and just survive the arrow like koichi did it would come out in some incomplete form
Yes that's right, however it's also extremely dangerous due to the wound that it give out as well so for a person like Polnareff who should be easily quality for something like a normal arrow, the requiem arrow evolved his stand into a requiem stand and he couldn't control it
@@hainguyn948 requiem has different properties than a normal arrow even if it’s the same exact arrow
@@yousefkhouryduckman it's different than other arrow, or it is what we would called the complete arrow, the one that will be able to fulfill what the creator of the arrow want to achieve, to create a god (Gold Experience Requiem)
GER can perform infinite death isn't a thing out of nowhere, GER ability is to decide when one start and end for every living being, so it went from easy to understand things like action, to ambiguous things like life and death
Polnareff confirmed that the requiem has the ability to manipulate soul on reality level already, we has other examples such as The World able to freeze soul, White Snake steal soul, Made in Heaven rewrite soul, and GER able to decide when thing end and start for pretty every living being
And Atum and Osiris being able to steal souls and put them in objects. Requiem being related to soul manipulation is just.... what? That's like saying Atum and Osiris are already requiem when they're not. That's like saying Black Sabbath can stab and grab soul because of what we've seen happen to the old man.
Here is my own opinion of SCR and the JPP power level debate. Imo, the argument the JPP can't control SCR or SCR being weak because it's automatic is kind of crazy because if you look at the situation that lead to SCR being awakened the first time, it was by share accident, he didn't know what had happened and what the power was so there was no way to know how it worked. So being afraid, he decided not to explore it further because he was crippled and older at that point, hence why he was trying to find someone worthy of the arrows power to defeat Diavolo. The second time SCR was awakened, JPP was literally being killed, so he summoned it and instructed it to protect the arrow. And this is just my opinion, the instructions given to automatic stands are by shear will of the user. Black Sabbath for example was instructed to pierce people trying to join Passione with the arrow, if they lived and got a stand, they were worthy to join, if they didn't, they died. But at no point is Polpo aware of where and how Black Sabbath completes this, it was given the command and it does what it was programmed to do. In SCR's case, right before JPP is about to be killed he instructs it to keep the arrow safe by any means necessary, so at that point he didn't really get to know if Giorno and Co. could be trusted, so he didn't add any special clauses like hey, give the arrow to this specific person, which explains why it defends the arrow from Diavolo and the good guys, it doesn't know who can be trusted and who is worthy because JPP is subdued before he could find out. Now, what I found interesting about it is the fact that SCR put JPPs mind in the turtle to save his life even though it protected the arrow from him too. Im not quite sure whether the ability is a mind swap or soul swap, but if it's just a mind swap then technically the turtle is still the turtle but with JPP's mind, so maybe it didn't listen to him because it doesn't see the turtle as it's master. Either way, if I was about to die and I gave my stand a dying wish, I'd expect it to do just that, and SCR is working ad intended. Now in regards to whether or not JPP could control it in his prime or as a cripple or whatever scenario, the answer is we will never know. The first time it was awakened, it was an accident, the second was near death, so we would never know. But seeing as Giorno was able to control GER, I'd would think JPP would eventually learn to control SCR if he had practiced and perfected Requiem activation. But with being an automatic stand, I'm sure commanding it through your Will to do something like defeating Diavolo or saving the world, SCR would work towards that, but if it is like Black Sabbath which it appeared to be, you would have to leave it up to the stand as to how those goals would be accomplished since you can't control its every action.
Long-winded, I know, but tldr JPP perfecting SCR in theory is possible, but being an automatic stand, SCR can't be controlled in the same way as other types of stands. We saw this with Black Sabbath in the beginning of the series where you guve the stand a goal and its up to the stand on how that goal is met, so that's what makes SCR totally different from GER.
10:00 when talking about ger losing to reality manipulation, actually i would argue that ger would beat dio oh if it wasnt nerfed af in that game
W+also there is a big problem'bout dio oh beat ger cuz dio must touch the thing to rm it but if he just have the intention to attack ger Automatically ger will use rtz on him and if we avoid this ger abillty itself is like rm so it should give him a resistance at least
Doesn't GER have it's own conscience, it's like an angel. It has thought, but it's dedicated to their master.
no fucking clue, after part 5 we get nothing on GER
Bro TRUE NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THESE well not anymore and by not anymore nobody tries to explain it
What if Giorno was up against Goku and Giorno had ge with the arrow in hand? What power would it pick to counter Goku?
SCR was only an automatic stand bc its user was non existant (Reminds me of someones father)
In theory you could trap giorno in a place he can't escape and starve him out. The question is what would that place be?
Would any other Shonen be affected by CR's counter attack with a hamon like spirit energy like chi or nen if they went for the arrow?
And if so how
CR is basically use your soul against you so sort of, I can think of jujutsu kaisen would have struggle against CR
correction in the SCR- Silver chariot can go requiem he is chosen by it but cant handle the power like code and jigen u know, he's capable of learning it but well every char in every season either get nerfed or buff so thats the reason why SCR is just automated stand but if actually polnareff can control it no one stand can defeat him
1. The reason Araki named it Chariot Requiem was because of Polnareff's inability to control his stand thus deemed it an incomplete stand, similar to how Mozart's requiem is also an incomplete song and was picked up by Sussmayr and became a complete requiem, similar to Giorno picking up the Requiem Arrow and finishing the Requiem Polnareff has started
2. CR even in full control wouldn't be able to beat GER as GER absorbed the requiem arrow thus absorbing the virus within it as well and able to freely control and manipulate souls in every possible ways
Tbh Superfly could beat GER because it's "metalfitication" is an effect, not an attack, just my opinion
GER can reset time , so it would just reset the action of Giorno entering Superfly to zero
I don't think Diavolo escaped his infinite death loops fate despite resetting an entire universe because Diavolo will never reach the truth.
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