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I was always able to make rail to rail shots (like these) using Inside English (with the tip closest to the rail, on the cue ball) on the cue ball. That always allowed the cue ball to remain on the rail, in order to pocket the ball. I never hit these shots hard though (just a nice, easy pocket speed follow through). I never had this shot come up in an actual game though.
The cue ball doesn't stay on the rail. It squirts away from the rail due to deflection, and then swerves back on line due to the spin. Dr Dave explains it in this very video at 4:39
Really, the best way to shoot these frozen rail shots is like this. If you're on the right hand rail, apply right spin on cue ball to hold the rail better and use pocket speed. Vice versa for the left side. That's helped me a lot.
Good video Dr Dave you are one of the best ,and a good instructor your videos help us learn I always thought shoot with inside English and shoot easy and that's most of it but not all of it .thanks!
Thanks. Inside is the trick, but you are right about there being more to know. Be sure to also check out the "follow-up" video with additional info and techniques here: ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
I saw straight rail and got excited, then i watched the vid lol, the us could really use someone like you doing these types of videos for carom billiards
For those commenting, and Dave feel free to chime in, Dave is merely trying to impress upon the special near rail effects that this particular shot presents as opposed to the exact ball alignment square into a pocket away from the rail. Dave is fully aware HOW to compensate and make this shot, even when implenting draw on the stroke. Identical to: ruclips.net/video/q87RaibKZLo/видео.html
Thanks for another informative video Dr Dave,. You present this "acquired knowlede"that usually comes from years of play and missing balls very clearly.
I'm glad to hear it, and I hope you enjoy your table. FYI, if you want to stream or download my instructional videos, you can do so here: drdavebilliards.com/stream_vimeo.html If you prefer physical DVDs, package deals are available here: drdavebilliards.com/
Id prefer dvd's I'm putting a table in my loft so I can watch the DVD and pause it and practice each shot... I can't wait!! They have a table at my job so I watch your RUclips stuff and practice base off memory is there a book you have that explains all the terms?
One last question you had a video where you where using top right English to bank off the left rail into the right side pocket I thought I saved it but I didn't which video was that?
Sorry, but you need to be a little more specific. Where was the CB? (close to the same rail as the OB?, in the middle of the table?), where was the OB? (on the rail?, close to the side pocket?), was the english being used to help the bank of to get position on the next shot?
That is a relief, because that's how I play these (usually with a touch of swerve to make a little upwards force on object ball and cb contact -I was told it minimises the deflection from the ob starting in contact with the rail). Especially on the tight tables where I am trying to tool some extra motion to get off the rail. I have been doing this after being told to but without real understanding. I love RUclips and I especially love niche-experts like this. Thanks for the explanation and excellent slo-mo footage which gives a plonker like me a chance to see all the dynamics of the shot. I love how such a simple game holds such beautiful complexity... use this stick to hit this ball into those balls and put them into the third dimension. so simple you'd think it is easy. lol It also puts into perspective the observation made by a chap I play snooker with sometimes... 'snooker is a game that takes a great deal of skill even to play badly.'... I have so much to learn...
I already have some online masse shot videos here: billiards.colostate.edu/threads/masse.html and I have lots more on Disc V of the Video Encyclopedia of Pool Shots (VEPS): drdavebilliards.com/veps/disc_V.html and Disc II of How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS): drdavebilliards.com/aiming/disc_II.html
So Dave, you could have used that last "swerve" technique on the other rail shots in the video. Though I imagine this is trickier to master with varying distances between cue and object ball.
I like all your videos. I have a question about 9 ball. I was watching a recent RUclips 9 ball tournament with Shane V. Boening and F. Groust and Shane racked the 9 balls. He Aligned the 9 ball with the middle Diamond on. the rail with the 1 ball out in front, I've never heard of this, the 1 ball is supposed to be on the Apex dot aligned with the middle diamond. I watched this RUclips video many times and that's the way they racked the balls. Any idea what's going on here?
Racking the 9 on the spot is a common rules variation to make it more difficult to master the break. See the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
@@DrDaveBilliards How does is stack up to a Diamond table or a Brunswick table ? From what I've seen in pro events, Diamond tables are the best out there.
Michael Trumph All tables can have different pocket geometry and can play a little differently, even tables from the same manufacturer, so it is important to be able to adjust to any table.
"Self-adhesive hole reinforcement labels" used for spotting ball positions for the Billiard University Playing-Ability Exams: billiarduniversity.org/exams.html
im starting to win games againts players whos been beating me over and over thanks to your videos, and i play better now than those whove been playing regularly at the shop i use to go every weekend and they are teasing me that ive been practicing secretly wc is nit true cause the only time i could play pool is sunday together with them haha sorry but iwont tell them about ur tips un i mastered them hahahaha
Using bhe with correct bridge lenght, when I do a 3 or 4 ft cut shot deflection is making me over cut the shot. I thought we did not have to worry about deflection. What do you recommend . Thankyou
CB deflection (the net effects of squirt and swerve) requires aim compensation that varies with the cue, shot distance, shot speed, cue elevation, and conditions. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/FAQ/sidespin/aim/compensation/
It is less likely that both the white and a color would end up frozen to a cushion like this in snooker, and the flat cushion surface surface doesn't push the CB away, but the technique can be used to shoot past a middle (especially if the cushions aren't perfectly aligned, or if a rolling ball tends to roll toward the middle pocket as it goes by).
I tried using a left english if both balls are frozen at the left cushion and right english if they're both frozen at the right and I must say that it also works.
I think I can do better. If you are playing on older cloth there will be a ditch or trough so to speak along the rail. Play outside the worn area to come back in. New cloth is a similar approach. Come back in as if you are playing a typical angled rail shot. Shooting past side pocket same approach. The rail points are due to how the rails are cut. A knife is drawn through, when reaching the end stretches the material then when snapping back the ends protrude slightly. As in most things there are different grades of rail material whether it be natural rubber or synthetic.
I think the follow-up video shows the most ideal way for the draw shot. Check it out: ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html For other types of rail shots, see: billiards.colostate.edu/threads/rail_cut_shots.html
Not sure how I feel about this one. I feel like there are parts that are missing and this should be a longer video due to that and not the same “keep it under 6 minutes” kind of thing.
@@DrDaveBilliards First off thank you for even paying attention to the comment much less to reply, also know that I am a proud owner of your earlier dvd's. I mention that to let you know that i'm a fan and not just some random internet keyboard worrier. Let's begin, I will come up with way to send you a video of a shot i do but until then would like to ask two questions. (1) what is the reaction if "right" was to be used on your example? and (2) what is the reaction when not on the rail with the CB? Basically part of my curiosity was from not seeing the OB travel straight down the rail as have been witnessed
@@400fps Right would be a poor choice in this situation. The CB would tend to swerve away from the rail, and the right would throw the CB into the CB, both of which are bad. When the CB is not on the rail, the reaction depends on whether you hit the ball or cushion first. Rail cut shots are covered in detail, with numerous videos, here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/rail-cut/
DrDaveBilliards I would love to get into a discussion with you on this and other topic as I have always favored your detailed engineering approach. Part of my problem has been trying to be too robotic or scientific and not allowing time to “feel” certain shots or end find my true comfort playing style. I always try to teach “finding yourself” but my brain won’t allow me to do this, chronic over thinker here
Dave, your stroke is not straight at all. Although I picked up on this in other videos, it's very apparently in this video. When pulling back the cue on your back stroke, you have the tendency to veer the butt of the cue towards your body. (You arc the cue back towards your body, and then follow that arc back outwards on your cue delivery.) This is noticeable on both front-facing and rear-facing camera angles in the video itself.
I have noticed a non-straight follow-through with power shots in some of my other recent videos, but I just watched this entire video, and the strokes look pretty straight to me. I wonder if the camera angle is causing a slight illusion. I use a pendulum stroke, with my elbow still, so the butt of the cue goes up and the tip goes down on the back stroke, and the butt comes up and the tip go down during the follow through. With the camera at an angle, this up/down motion might be perceived as left/right motion, but I think the strokes in this video are fairly straight. Watch again and let me know what you think.
Michael Lucas I already have a bunch of info and videos dealing with both masse and the 9-ball break here: billiards.colostate.edu/threads/masse.html#technique and here: billiards.colostate.edu/threads/break.html#9-ball Check them out.
Correct, especially for the shot to get past the side pocket. But this won't work very well for fast-speed straight rail shots, where the swerve doesn't have time or distance to take.
On the last shot in the video, bottom-right english is used. For more examples of how rail-side english is used on shots like these, see my follow-up video here: ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
The comparison on the small level cue stick for position as to the high downward shots was not a fair demonstration. The level shot was hit with little force and the down ward shot was hit hard. You must hit with the same force. I think that table is in need of under cloth cleaning, the balls wriggle.
I disagree. I think the demonstration clearly delivered the messages I was trying to get across, even if the speeds might have been different, and even if the cloth is not perfect.
@@DrDaveBilliards hi, if I had a product that you were trying to sell , is it fair to hit your product 4 times as hard as I hit mine and breaking yours in an effort to show mine is more robust. The test was not a fair one. A ball hit gently has a much greater chance to go in than one struck hard. The hard shot you played had no way of getting shape on the next ball, it was clearly hit overly hard to miss. Increasing the force aplied to one product 4 fold is not fair on the other. Explaining the science of how a ball moves off cussions and bounce , you know more about it than I do , I learned from it, I thank you for that . The high and low strike on the cue ball comparison can be a fair one only if they are both hit with the intention of getting possition on the next ball. This shot would not be played hard if trying to get position on the next ball, it was hit to miss and look messy, not a fair comparison. Think on it a while, you know your game realy well, explaining it is a whole new ball game. You helped me with my game. Let me help you with how to explain it. I must admit, its not easy to demonstrate the science behind your lesson. I think it's more of a lesson of odds , maybe that should be the emphasis on this one. You may still get it , but your chances increase if you strike level avoiding the hop , especially if you must hit hard.
5 and a half minutes and never told you how to make the shot... Aim straight, but put half the draw on it as you normally would. Then crank it. Hard. The speed of the shot cancels out all the bullshit he's yapping about in the video and the half-draw is the same as if you hit it with normal full draw power.
FYI to those who watched this video, check out the "follow-up" video with additional info and techniques here:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
*Subscribe to Dr. Dave's RUclips Channel:*
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Yep. See the last shot of the follow-up video here:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
In 4:55 at this example can i use mass shot ?
DrDaveBilliards x
@@H_I_T That's basically what I demonstrate ... a swerve shot (which is slight masse).
Straight railed shot needs inside spin to stay along the rail.
This is by far the best demonstration of what's going on with these shots. I'm so glad I watched it. Thanks DrDave!
Thanks. Be sure to check out the follow-up video:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
I was always able to make rail to rail shots (like these) using Inside English (with the tip closest to the rail, on the cue ball) on the cue ball. That always allowed the cue ball to remain on the rail, in order to pocket the ball. I never hit these shots hard though (just a nice, easy pocket speed follow through). I never had this shot come up in an actual game though.
The cue ball doesn't stay on the rail. It squirts away from the rail due to deflection, and then swerves back on line due to the spin. Dr Dave explains it in this very video at 4:39
I thought I was going insane after missing these shots all my life! Never really realized the balls are positioned ever so slightly under the rail.
But always give top + side spin towards the rail with normal speed it will always go in.
Thank you , I think this is the best video on the subject !
You're welcome, and thank you! Be sure to check out the follow-up video also:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
Very much appreciated, sir!
I'm glad you liked it.
Really, the best way to shoot these frozen rail shots is like this. If you're on the right hand rail, apply right spin on cue ball to hold the rail better and use pocket speed. Vice versa for the left side. That's helped me a lot.
Curtis Petit See the follow-up video link in the video description above.
Good video Dr Dave you are one of the best ,and a good instructor your videos help us learn I always thought shoot with inside English and shoot easy and that's most of it but not all of it .thanks!
Thanks. Inside is the trick, but you are right about there being more to know. Be sure to also check out the "follow-up" video with additional info and techniques here:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
This is another RUclips video detailing a shot you already know and never miss.
Michael Lucas I’m not sure who you mean by “you,” but it is certainly not “most people.”
please make a video without editing or cutscenes. a good 10 minute video shooting these type of shots without missing. then Ill believe you.
Im surprised you didn't mention inside spin for frozen straight shots. That technique works a high percentage of the time for me.
It is in the follow-up video linked in the video description:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
You are correct. This is a useful technique.
I saw straight rail and got excited, then i watched the vid lol, the us could really use someone like you doing these types of videos for carom billiards
For those commenting, and Dave feel free to chime in, Dave is merely trying to impress upon the special near rail effects that this particular shot presents as opposed to the exact ball alignment square into a pocket away from the rail.
Dave is fully aware HOW to compensate and make this shot, even when implenting draw on the stroke.
Identical to: ruclips.net/video/q87RaibKZLo/видео.html
Good stuff, always good stuff.
Dr. Dave you are great for You Tube.
Some of your calm responses to idiots is to be commended!!
They can't drag you down to their level.
Thanks. When they go low, I go Colorado High! :)
I always use bottom inside english for frozen balls shots. With a bit of practice you can manage the swerve depending of the object ball distance.
That's a good approach. See my "Straight Cushion-Frozen Shots and Techniques ... Follow Up" video:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
Do you ever consider how fantastical this all is when considered from a particle physics standpoint? Not crazy. Just fantastical.
No
No bruv
You are genius. Congrats for the great work!
Thanks. Be sure to check out the follow-up video:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
Thanks for another informative video Dr Dave,. You present this "acquired knowlede"that usually comes from years of play and missing balls very clearly.
I think this is an example of knowledge that some people don't "acquire," even after playing for many years.
Interesting. Right hand spin/english transfers left hand spin but throws to the left. Side spin especially is hard to get my head around.
The illustrations, articles, and videos here should help:
billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/throw/spin-transfer/
So the question I have is how do we shoot the object ball past the side pocket
Hope the point doesn't stick out or shoot the OB slightly into or away from the rail so it clears the point but still goes in the corner.
As Always a great Video Thanks✌💯
Thank you, and you're welcome. Be sure to also check out the follow-up video:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
Excellent!
Thanks!
Awesome footage
Thanks! I aim to swerve. :)
Lol
.I see you’re playing with the Revo Cue ...Can you please give some insight of what you think of the shift...thanks Dave
I like it. It is smooth, stays clean, doesn't scratch or ding, has the amount of CB deflection I prefer.
Love your videos bro buying my table in a few months and I'm buying all your dvds
I'm glad to hear it, and I hope you enjoy your table.
FYI, if you want to stream or download my instructional videos, you can do so here:
drdavebilliards.com/stream_vimeo.html
If you prefer physical DVDs, package deals are available here:
drdavebilliards.com/
Id prefer dvd's I'm putting a table in my loft so I can watch the DVD and pause it and practice each shot... I can't wait!! They have a table at my job so I watch your RUclips stuff and practice base off memory is there a book you have that explains all the terms?
Sounds like a smart idea.
FYI, I have a free online glossary of all pool/billiards terms/phrases here:
billiards.colostate.edu/glossary.html
One last question you had a video where you where using top right English to bank off the left rail into the right side pocket I thought I saved it but I didn't which video was that?
Sorry, but you need to be a little more specific. Where was the CB? (close to the same rail as the OB?, in the middle of the table?), where was the OB? (on the rail?, close to the side pocket?), was the english being used to help the bank of to get position on the next shot?
Level cue with inside spin.
Agreed. Check out the follow-up video:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
That is a relief, because that's how I play these (usually with a touch of swerve to make a little upwards force on object ball and cb contact -I was told it minimises the deflection from the ob starting in contact with the rail). Especially on the tight tables where I am trying to tool some extra motion to get off the rail.
I have been doing this after being told to but without real understanding. I love RUclips and I especially love niche-experts like this. Thanks for the explanation and excellent slo-mo footage which gives a plonker like me a chance to see all the dynamics of the shot.
I love how such a simple game holds such beautiful complexity... use this stick to hit this ball into those balls and put them into the third dimension. so simple you'd think it is easy. lol
It also puts into perspective the observation made by a chap I play snooker with sometimes... 'snooker is a game that takes a great deal of skill even to play badly.'... I have so much to learn...
The finger tip grip is interesting to me. In your opinion can this grip have the potential to be your main grip?
I have seen some decent players do this, but it is certainly not recommended.
Can you do a video on game situation masse shots?
I already have some online masse shot videos here:
billiards.colostate.edu/threads/masse.html
and I have lots more on Disc V of the Video Encyclopedia of Pool Shots (VEPS):
drdavebilliards.com/veps/disc_V.html
and Disc II of How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS):
drdavebilliards.com/aiming/disc_II.html
Great video
Lafaele Robertson Thanks. Be sure to also watch the follow-up video:
ruclips.net/video/DnmAwgv-yKY/видео.html
very good and interesting lesson
Jere616 Thanks. I’m glad you liked it.
Jere616 Be sure to check out the follow-up video:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you. Will do
So Dave, you could have used that last "swerve" technique on the other rail shots in the video. Though I imagine this is trickier to master with varying distances between cue and object ball.
Exactly. Also, the swerve approach doesn't work very well for faster-speed shots.
Thanks 😊
You're welcome. Be sure to check out the follow-up video:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
Enjoy!
I like all your videos. I have a question about 9 ball. I was watching a recent RUclips 9 ball tournament with Shane V. Boening and F. Groust and Shane racked the 9 balls. He Aligned the 9 ball with the middle Diamond on. the rail with the 1 ball out in front, I've never heard of this, the 1 ball is supposed to be on the Apex dot aligned with the middle diamond. I watched this RUclips video many times and that's the way they racked the balls. Any idea what's going on here?
Racking the 9 on the spot is a common rules variation to make it more difficult to master the break. See the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
Never knew this. Great video.
Dave can please tell us the brand of table u are playing on ? Thank u
steve vranas It’s a 9’ Olhaussen that was previously owned by the late, great Robert Byrne.
@@DrDaveBilliards
How does is stack up to a Diamond table or a Brunswick table ?
From what I've seen in pro events, Diamond tables are the best out there.
Michael Trumph All tables can have different pocket geometry and can play a little differently, even tables from the same manufacturer, so it is important to be able to adjust to any table.
This situation very rarely ever comes up. I really can’t remember the last time.
Richard Nicholas Agreed, but good players are prepared for all types of shots, even the ones that come up rarely.
@@DrDaveBilliards That's true. Thanks for all the great content!
@@richardnicholas2957 You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
Do you have a 9' table? Or does it just look big from that angle?
xenomonk1 Yes. The table in all of my new videos is a 9’ Olhaussen, previously owned by the late, great Robert Byrne.
@@DrDaveBilliards What a treasure!
Thx ... Big help.
You're welcome. I'm glad. Be sure to also check out the follow-up video:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
Enjoy!
100% correct sir, use the same English with long rail shots without pocket interruptus too😉
Agreed. FYI, I demo this in the follow-up video:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
@@DrDaveBilliards oops, sorry, I didn't get that far
...thanks for teaching, you are great at it Doc!
@@leninmi7579 You're welcome ... and thank you! I aim to swerve. :)
@@DrDaveBilliards little play on words? 😁, Yw
You're the reason why I'm getting good at pool, you might be generous enough to give me a cue stick
I'm glad you like my videos. Sorry, but I am not a cue stick charity organization.
@@DrDaveBilliards I did try, but thanks anyways
Nice vid
Thanks. Be sure to also check out the "follow-up" video with additional related info and techniques here:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
whats the white spots on the table ?
"Self-adhesive hole reinforcement labels" used for spotting ball positions for the Billiard University Playing-Ability Exams:
billiarduniversity.org/exams.html
im starting to win games againts players whos been beating me over and over thanks to your videos, and i play better now than those whove been playing regularly at the shop i use to go every weekend and they are teasing me that ive been practicing secretly wc is nit true cause the only time i could play pool is sunday together with them haha sorry but iwont tell them about ur tips un i mastered them hahahaha
Using bhe with correct bridge lenght, when I do a 3 or 4 ft cut shot deflection is making me over cut the shot. I thought we did not have to worry about deflection. What do you recommend
. Thankyou
CB deflection (the net effects of squirt and swerve) requires aim compensation that varies with the cue, shot distance, shot speed, cue elevation, and conditions. For more info, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/FAQ/sidespin/aim/compensation/
Great!
I'm a snooker player, how can I apply this to snooker?
It is less likely that both the white and a color would end up frozen to a cushion like this in snooker, and the flat cushion surface surface doesn't push the CB away, but the technique can be used to shoot past a middle (especially if the cushions aren't perfectly aligned, or if a rolling ball tends to roll toward the middle pocket as it goes by).
@@DrDaveBilliards I see but I'm quite worry with the nap effect or when I'm shooting for the middle pocket on a half ball or more cuts
I tried using a left english if both balls are frozen at the left cushion and right english if they're both frozen at the right and I must say that it also works.
Josef Santolaja Check out my follow-up video, where I cover this approach:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
I agree with what he’s saying. I use English to make that shot. 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🎱
MrRex1949 Thanks. FYI, the english technique is shown in the follow-up video:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
It looks difficult to me
That’s why we practice … to make the many difficult things in pool easier.
I think I can do better. If you are playing on older cloth there will be a ditch or trough so to speak along the rail. Play outside the worn area to come back in. New cloth is a similar approach. Come back in as if you are playing a typical angled rail shot. Shooting past side pocket same approach. The rail points are due to how the rails are cut. A knife is drawn through, when reaching the end stretches the material then when snapping back the ends protrude slightly. As in most things there are different grades of rail material whether it be natural rubber or synthetic.
So basically there is no IDEAL way to hit rail shots?
I think the follow-up video shows the most ideal way for the draw shot. Check it out:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
For other types of rail shots, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/threads/rail_cut_shots.html
Mahdee : Use left English draw. That will make your ball in. Allowing your ball to come down to your next ball to shoot.
Not sure how I feel about this one. I feel like there are parts that are missing and this should be a longer video due to that and not the same “keep it under 6 minutes” kind of thing.
Marvin St John Did you see the follow-up video yet? It s linked in the video description. After watching both, let me know what you think is missing.
@@DrDaveBilliards First off thank you for even paying attention to the comment much less to reply, also know that I am a proud owner of your earlier dvd's. I mention that to let you know that i'm a fan and not just some random internet keyboard worrier. Let's begin, I will come up with way to send you a video of a shot i do but until then would like to ask two questions. (1) what is the reaction if "right" was to be used on your example? and (2) what is the reaction when not on the rail with the CB?
Basically part of my curiosity was from not seeing the OB travel straight down the rail as have been witnessed
@@400fps Right would be a poor choice in this situation. The CB would tend to swerve away from the rail, and the right would throw the CB into the CB, both of which are bad. When the CB is not on the rail, the reaction depends on whether you hit the ball or cushion first. Rail cut shots are covered in detail, with numerous videos, here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/rail-cut/
DrDaveBilliards I would love to get into a discussion with you on this and other topic as I have always favored your detailed engineering approach. Part of my problem has been trying to be too robotic or scientific and not allowing time to “feel” certain shots or end find my true comfort playing style. I always try to teach “finding yourself” but my brain won’t allow me to do this, chronic over thinker here
Thanks! 🇳🇿👍
You’re welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
Dave, your stroke is not straight at all. Although I picked up on this in other videos, it's very apparently in this video. When pulling back the cue on your back stroke, you have the tendency to veer the butt of the cue towards your body. (You arc the cue back towards your body, and then follow that arc back outwards on your cue delivery.) This is noticeable on both front-facing and rear-facing camera angles in the video itself.
I have noticed a non-straight follow-through with power shots in some of my other recent videos, but I just watched this entire video, and the strokes look pretty straight to me. I wonder if the camera angle is causing a slight illusion. I use a pendulum stroke, with my elbow still, so the butt of the cue goes up and the tip goes down on the back stroke, and the butt comes up and the tip go down during the follow through. With the camera at an angle, this up/down motion might be perceived as left/right motion, but I think the strokes in this video are fairly straight. Watch again and let me know what you think.
It's not about how straight your stroke is it's about how good you get with what you got.
I got it my second try
Nice!
Wait what?
@0:51 where do we upload proof that we ARE better than Dr. Dave? 😂😂😂
Check out the "follow-up" video with additional info and techniques here:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
Is that what you have in mind?
Go advanced. Masse and 9 ball breaks. Show us what you know. You'll make money in the process.
Michael Lucas I already have a bunch of info and videos dealing with both masse and the 9-ball break here:
billiards.colostate.edu/threads/masse.html#technique
and here:
billiards.colostate.edu/threads/break.html#9-ball
Check them out.
Why are you Doctor Dave??? ARE AN MD???
PhD. For more info, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/dr-dave
Spin
*inside english
Correct, especially for the shot to get past the side pocket. But this won't work very well for fast-speed straight rail shots, where the swerve doesn't have time or distance to take.
Right translates better to other cultures that don't say "inside and outside", like those of us from a snooker background.
In this specific example, it was right-low.
On the last shot in the video, bottom-right english is used. For more examples of how rail-side english is used on shots like these, see my follow-up video here:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
s-l-o-w m-o-t-i-o-n reveals the truth
Agreed. Check out this video featuring some of the best slow-motion stuff available:
ruclips.net/video/NWkX9JCWCK0/видео.html
Enjoy!
You're like Yoda, except much taller.
Play pool, he does.
I'll make a better pool player would be able to deal with this shot.
The comparison on the small level cue stick for position as to the high downward shots was not a fair demonstration. The level shot was hit with little force and the down ward shot was hit hard. You must hit with the same force. I think that table is in need of under cloth cleaning, the balls wriggle.
I disagree. I think the demonstration clearly delivered the messages I was trying to get across, even if the speeds might have been different, and even if the cloth is not perfect.
@@DrDaveBilliards hi, if I had a product that you were trying to sell , is it fair to hit your product 4 times as hard as I hit mine and breaking yours in an effort to show mine is more robust. The test was not a fair one. A ball hit gently has a much greater chance to go in than one struck hard. The hard shot you played had no way of getting shape on the next ball, it was clearly hit overly hard to miss. Increasing the force aplied to one product 4 fold is not fair on the other.
Explaining the science of how a ball moves off cussions and bounce , you know more about it than I do , I learned from it, I thank you for that . The high and low strike on the cue ball comparison can be a fair one only if they are both hit with the intention of getting possition on the next ball. This shot would not be played hard if trying to get position on the next ball, it was hit to miss and look messy, not a fair comparison.
Think on it a while, you know your game realy well, explaining it is a whole new ball game. You helped me with my game. Let me help you with how to explain it. I must admit, its not easy to demonstrate the science behind your lesson. I think it's more of a lesson of odds , maybe that should be the emphasis on this one. You may still get it , but your chances increase if you strike level avoiding the hop , especially if you must hit hard.
You’re doing it all wrong it’s called a stroke shot you need inside English and stroke The cue
See the follow-up video:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html
Espanis
5 and a half minutes and never told you how to make the shot...
Aim straight, but put half the draw on it as you normally would. Then crank it. Hard. The speed of the shot cancels out all the bullshit he's yapping about in the video and the half-draw is the same as if you hit it with normal full draw power.
Michael Lucas You must not have seen the follow-up video yet:
ruclips.net/video/PceeYGubVIA/видео.html