Thank you so much for sharing this video, was battling with handles without fitting instructions or a template, made myself and jig and have been much less sweary. Thank you so much.
A handy tip for cutting down machine screws, put then into the combi drill chuck at the desired length, hold the hacksaw against the end of chuck and spin the drill anti clockwise.
Omg thank you so so much for this. Been losing my mind trying to replace a handle when the new handle came with zero instructions or any of the hardware labeled. Thank you.
Hi del you saved me today got asked to go to job in knightsbridge today and fit door furniture on high quality polished panel doors worth fortunes one slip and run bolt through high end handles had gig i bought on eBay but i didn’t fit lockes etc so couldn’t trust them to be square to door edge then remembered your video brilliant simple worked perfectly been in game now 50 years and still learning any youngsters i meet who are coming into our trade I always tell them if you get stuck with anything go on your channel I know you and i both think its very important to pass on our knowledge sorry gone on a bit but i do a lot of cut roofs in north London and saw dans roofing jig but im left handed and wondered if it would suit me thanks
Hi Terry🖐Great comment and appreciate your kind words🤗I always think the way I'm doing something, (and may well been for many years), is only temporary, until someone shows me a better way👍And when that day comes, it's always exciting now matter how long we've been at it🤓 I'm not sure about Dan's square and being a leftie, and perhaps you can reach out to him on Instagram for his advice👊Thanks again😎Cheers Del
Thank you so much. I was about to buy a really expensive Ryobi/Dewalt jig. Not only would the hole have been too big, I would have wasted £40 - 50! You’ve saved me! Happy days!
That jig idea is so sleek that you could just drill the screw dia one side of door and the drill barrel dia hole other side...but useful tips from video and all comments...Thank you
That's made me so happy to see this jig mate. I've struggled this morning with one privercey set out of alinement thank you so much can't belive I'm looking forward to my next one next week been a a apprentice since 1978 haha still learning. Thanks so much Mate
Hi Mark😎 I know exactly how you feel bud, as I hated doing bolt through handles until I made this little jig👊 Thanks for your super comment and great to have a fellow tradesmen watching my video🤩 Cheers Del
Just fitted the same handles and latch to same doors but without the aid of your video I didn't think I could fit the outer through bolt as I thought it would go through the latch. I can now go back tomorrow and complete the job. And as I have four more doors to fit I will make a jig. Many thanks for the video.
Hi John. Its satisfying for me that my video has helped you out, and its the main reason I post them up😁Thanks for watching and all the best finishing your doors😎Cheers Del
wish i'd have seen this a few weeks ago. I am a complete novice. I have 17 doors to hang in my house, i made a hinge jig, a lock jig, but for some unknown reason ( in hindsight) i was freestyling this like a fool! thankfully i have only done 5 doors so far.
Hi Xan🖐You're house must be massive😆Sounds like you're doing a good job and hopefully using a jig for the handles will help🤞Thanks for your comment and for watching 😎 Cheers Del
There's a way without having to feel around with the screw. With the handle off and the spindle in one handle, put the long screws in the door handle holes and thread both the metal rods on about 3 or 4 turns. Now you can just push that handle and the 2 rods all the way through to the other side, with enough to make the ends of the rods poke out the 2 holes on the other side. At least on my door the rods could poke out, they taper slightly thinner at the ends. This way there isn't any feeling around for the hole inside the door - the rod is there poking out - you can just put the short screws in the other handle and be able to see the ends get screwed in.
I'd say you were lucky thus time, I went fishing for half an hour on my last handle. Success came when I switched sides for some reason, and fished from the left instead of the right
That's a great tip, thank you. I've struggled with drilling accurate holes for these handles in the past, and have also seen so many customers where the long screws have been left of then the small trim screws fail and ruin the door. I have 11 doors to do in a house soon so. 👍🏻
You're spot there Eric.😃 In many cases, these bolt through screws get left off in favour, as you say, for just the tiny wood screws, and these are not really up to the job.😬 Great comment.👍
Just fitted 7 bang same doors & the identical handle and your "fishing 🎣" analogy is bang on 🤣 I had 2 bathroom locks with thumb turns so was twice the flustrasion 😡 trying to get the through bots to line up spent far too long messing around with them. Great video 👍 thanks for the great tip.
Hi Rob. The thumb turns are awful to line up. Even slightly out and makes it hard to turn.😬 Yeah, sometimes you can be, 'fishing', around for ages trying to get the screws lined up.😝 Great comment mate, now get yourself a beer.🍻 Cheers
Apologies for my inconsiderate timing sammcm91.😂 These are Ironmongery Direct handles and latches and they are decent quality.😎 Thanks for your comment.👍
@@darrenroche9225 Couldn't even imagine what it would have been like in the 80,s if everyone and anyone could have filmed themselves🤪 My youth was awesome in my memory and keeps getting better. I would hate to spoil those memories with actual video evidence of how it really was!!!!. 🤯 Cheers.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Previous attempts measuring and levelling from the door edge have been, erm, interesting particularly with 3 year old 'helpers'.... This made it so much easier and quicker!
Hi QuickDraw🖐 Glad you've found the tip useful, you'll just have explain to your helper how to use it, VERY slowly using big shapes and bright colours🤪 Thanks for your comment 😎 Cheers Del
Hi RC. Thanks for your comment.🤩 I know everyone has different ways and opinions, but I don't think those little screws are enough on their own to withstand the large leverage forces put on rose/fixing plate if the handle is over turned, so I always fit them bolt through.😎 Thanks for your comment mate.👍
That's a great little jig. Another good idea to speed up lining up the pesky screws is to push a straw in hole first so it acts as sleeve. I'm definitely keeping a few straws in my box now.
Great idea.😎 Trouble is, the old plastic straws are getting harder to find nowadays, as apparently, someone's been chucking them in the sea, so we now have to use big chunky cardboard ones.😁 Great comment.👍
Watching your videos like Coronation street at the minute loving the detail. Im a time served joiner learning lots from the extra tips from the detail your giving. Great stuff. Fancy making myself a trusty set of old school saw horses like you have there. Would love a video of them old school bad boys. 👍🏻
Hi Ben🖐I hope you don't get fed up of my voice😵Appreciate you watching my stuff and I may well make a new set of saw horses, which I will, obviously, video👊Thanks for your great comment 😎 Cheers Del
Great video. Some electricians linesman’s pliers have integrated bolt cutters for shortening machine screws. We use them when fitting pattress boxes/ light switches/plug switches. The screw screws in and is cut with the action of the plier, you then screw the screw out which maintains the screw thread. This would save you so much time with guess work and filing down post cut. Thanks for a great video, I’ve got some door handles to fit and your channel has been so useful.
Hi Liam🖐Thanks for the heads up on those pliers bud, Ill definitely look into them👊I'm glad my videos are helpful and thanks for watching and your great comment😎Cheers Del
Hi James. My videos are sort of aimed at guys like you mate.👊I'm hoping that, as my channel builds, I can pass on many of the little, (and big), bits of knowledge that I have accumulated over the past 35 years as a carpenter.😎 Cheers.
Hi Del. Right video this time. So use a jig to get through bolts. But then you get this sort of nonsense. You have done the holes square, put the handle level(square to the door) but now the bloody holes in the handle are not in the square position, they are cocked over a d you have a right job to get the handle right.
@@thetallcarpenter they're always great to watch and to pick up some tips, in my view as Carpenter we're always learning from each other. Amazes me of the tips we can pick up after doing something the hard way for years lol. But yep, keep the videos coming. Appreciate them. Cheers from Australia.
@@bartbug1 You're so right mate. The more we interact with each other the more knowledge gets transferred. Great to have you watching from down under.🤩 Cheers.
That’s brilliant - haven’t fitted bolt-through handles before so came across your video really just to see how they worked, this video is so much more than that. Clever idea with the jig, superb! Thank you for sharing 👍
@@thetallcarpenter and I get to have a play with my relatively new trend skeleton jig and my new robin clevett jig. I should be paying them for tomorrow!
There it is great job lol. Lucky you got them in the rite place first time... coz they can be a rite pain in the hole at times. Love the gig must make one of them up for myself.... all the best big man
Hi Boots. 👋 Yeah, you're absolutely right, they are a nightmare if the fixing holes don't line up 😵 Thanks for watching and your great comment 😎 Cheers.
Hi Andrew. Videoing that was pretty straight forward.🤩 Most of what I cut out is either me waffling on too much or someone barging in or shouting swear words.🤬 Cheers.
On point as usual, always nice to see a job well done. Cute workbench btw, clearly sees aome real use. I'm one of those cowboys who still locates on the mechanism/faceplate.
Great idea. Will make one for my remaining doors. The only problem I had was spindle hole size as I commented in previous vid. I opted for 19mm instead of 20mm recommend but when the bolts were nipped up circlip and washer on the back of the rose protrudes and binds. I ended up running a burr around the spindle hole to accommodate the circlip. I doubt the 20mm recommended would have cleared it. Thanks again👍
Hi RG🖐Yes, sometimes the circling and handle boss to protrude proud of the back of the backplate, and I usually just pair around the hoke a bit to accommodate it👊Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter oh thanks Del...thought I was going mad. I will be prepared on the next ones. Had considered a 22mm forstener bit first, then drilling spindle to 19mm, but a Stanley blade may do nicely without overcomplicating. 😆 You make it look too easy 😎👍
I like your simple, easy to understand videos, and your non-condescending attitude to us viewers. I have a question though - when it comes to fitting the handles, couldn't you just attach the handles to the spindles, then attach them to the door by the three screws, THEN mark and drill the two bolt-through holes (from one side if one is careful not to break out the other side), remove the 3 screws and then fit the two bolts, then screw the three screws back to finish up the handle? Or am I being dumb? I am a DIY'er with a little experience, and I have 8 of these exact doors to fit, with corresponding bolt-through handles almost identical to the ones you fitted, so am somewhat apprehensive. Also, what size auger would you suggest for the spindle and and mechnism, and could I use a spade bit instead of an auger bit? Oh yeah, I've subscribed! Cheers.
Hi there🖐You could mark the holes for the through bolt's as you describe, but I'd definitely drill in from each side as the bolt holes are VERY close to the edge of the back plate rose. Check outmy video on fitting these latches, and the drill sizes are in the comments section👍Thanks for watching and your comment 😎 Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter Thanks for the quick reply. Yes I get what you're saying, and can understand the risk of drilling through and having the holes on the other side come through outside of the rose. I think therefore a jig, like you have made, will be the best method, as then drilling through both sides should ensure the holes are in alignment. I hope.
Good vid!.. I do the same technique.. although I made a jig out of MDF with the same 40mm holes and bolt hole it wraps around both sides of the door and has the non slip car mats on the inside and I clamp them in place.. great minds!
Hi Craig. I did make an elaborate jig just as you describe, and it was perfect. Unfortunately I left it on a job, and by the time I returned to pick it up, the labourer had had a clear up and burnt it.🤬I couldn't be arsed to make a new one, (as it was made out of laminate floor offcuts), so I just made this ply one instead.👊 Thanks for watching and your great comment.👍
Lovely job. What latches would suit a 1939 door for bolt-through handles 38mm apart? I used one I picked up and mangled the first door fitting it. Old latches were quite shallow so I would prefer a small/shallow one. .
Hi Lynda🖐Sorry, bit it's virtually impossible for me to advise what handles would suit your application without seeing what you already have🤔Cheers Del
Love your videos so helpful am doing my Apprenticeship however not with w carpentry firm so am having to teach myself at home so your videos are literally teaching me all the things I need to know was wondering if you could door a door latches installation video
Hi there. Sorry to hear that you are not working on a firm to do your apprenticeship. I did a latch fitting video on these very doors, but, due to me being a beginner at film making, I lost some of the footage, so couldn't complete it.😬 It wont be that long before I start on the next plot, and there will be door lining and latch fitting videos from that.👍 I am aware that there is many guys in your situation, which is mainly why I am posting videos of my work.😎 Well done mate.
Excellent content. Fitting with non-connecting screws should be illegal imo. Atleast the handles should only be sold with connecting bolts. I recently got locked in through that, but luckily there was no emergency Tell me if you agree
Hi James🖐I hadn't really thought about it bud, but you have got a point, and a handle coming off, as you found out, could easily lead to you getting stuck in a room😩Yes, you're also right that maybe all handles should clamp to the spindle, especially on fire doors etc🤔Great comment and thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
I'm struggling with the bolts, preexisting holes every 18 months I'm fiddling about trying to fix handles hanging off the door with tiny screws. I bought new latches in order to fix back to back bolts but the handles line up with the holes making it difficult to get a screwdriver in.
Great Video. Thank you for taking the time to make the video. I have few silly questions that I want to ask 😂 is the door a hollow door or is it solid? I have hollow door that I need to put handles on it. Similar to yours but worried that it won't hold it. And second question is what drill size do you use to make the holes? Once again thank you 🙂
Hi Tazul 🖐 These doors are solid core, but even hollow core doors will have a fairly decent sized lock block in the the edge which will be solid timber and easily take a bolt through latch👊From memory, I think I am using a 4.5mm drill bit for the bolt though bolts, but do use a drill that suite the particular bolt size as they can differ in diameter👍Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
That looked a lot easier than when I did it 😂😂 Are you able to tell me how you managed to get square through bolt to sit "square" in the jig? many thanks, great video
Hi there🖐The round hole in the jig is quite tight for the square spindle to fit through, and this keeps it pretty square when lining the jig up. There is a certain amount of tolerance to be expected which is why I drill the holes for the bolts slightly bigger than then need to be👍Cheers Del
Hi Jazz🖐In my experience, just securing these lever on rose handles with screws handles only, can lead to them twisting when to the lever is turned👍Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
I had a hell of a job lining the screws up... couldn't find the female end with the bolt... finicky work! I ended up with stub screws on one door instead! Retirement on the cards!🤣
It's a fiddly old job lining those bolts up Andrew😩Sometimes you can one that seems to take forever😲Thanks for watching and happy retirement😆Cheers Del
Great idea , but iv fucked around with them bolts longer than it takes to swing the door they don’t even screw in when there in your hands so they go in the bin😂 great vid mate 👍
Hi there. To be fair, these are good quality handles and the machined screws are very good.😎 BUT, I agree with you about the length of time you can mess about with the poorer quality ones, and it can infuriating trying to fit them.🤬 Thanks for your comment.👍
If the doors solid wood I don't use them wood screws only if the door is veneer over chipcboard I always use them no matter what or you would have a slack Handel in a short space of time
Almost all caught up with all the vids. Ive actually been noting all the tips. Really Ace channel! will you consider putting up a link to send some tea bags your way
Hi Jim. Fortunately, as these were on a tubular latch, the screws positions in the handle rose actually miss the latch body.👍 I did have to file a tiny bit of the end of the screw for the bathroom lock though.😉 Great comment.👍
Yeah this caught me out too. Gave up on the bolts as wasn’t bothered cutting down after all of the faffing around to try line them up. Moved onto the screws instead and once fully tightened the latch stuck and lock wouldn’t come out…took me a minute to realise the bloody screws were too long also. Wish I’d watched this video and read this comment before I started 😂
@@TYLERCONSTRUCTION Well done Tyler. It takes a lot of balls to make and post videos, and especially if you have challenges that don't make it straightforward.👍
Have you had the handle where the rose won't go past the handle! What a bloody pain especially when the spindle to hole locations weren't accurate enough for template/jig. Had to cut a pencil to 18mm long and hold with a pair of pliers. It was crazy. Took soooo long.😖 Ironmongery and materials my biggest bugbear for the last decade.
Hi Benjamin. YES, that and all sorts of issues due to poorly made ironmongery.😩 When I work for developers now, they always get better quality stuff for me now, as its quicker to fit, works better, looks better and lasts longer that cheaper, contractors stuff.👊 No matter what stuff you have though, sometimes one of these latches/locks/handles/privacy knobs, just seems to take miles longer than the rest cause you just cant get it to, 'click'.😣 Cheers.
@@thetallcarpenter ah, thank you for your reply! I'm just looking for something that's easier than the very old fashioned hammer and chisel XD do you know of any tools like that?
@@skywolfx76 Hi there. I don't know of anything that might replace a hammer and chisel for this other than a router, which could take the bulk of the material out, leaving the rest to be tidied up by hand tools🔨👍Cheers Del
Iv always wandered why they dont alternate the hole position on the handles on each side so you could put thicker screw in door as you can only put a screw half thickness of door sondont hit other side screw. Ive got young kids and they nearly hanf off the door handles and have to keep tightening at times
Not a stupid question Ray.🤩 The latches and locks that are to be used with this handles have holes in their bodies to allow the screws/bolts to pass through them. They are known as, 'bolt through', latches/locks. They provide a better fixing for the handles, particularly when they are on a circular back plate.👍 Cheers.
Thanks for a speedy reply 👍🏻 love your steady approach and the carport build was fantastic. Keep them coming as my son loves watching as well. He’s a first year carpentry student at tech and is only allowed to use hand tools so he’s learning the trade ground up.👍🏻
@@raysmith6891 Hi Ray. If my videos are helping your lad, then that makes me feel really good, as its the main reason I'm making the videos.🤩 What's his name?
@@thetallcarpenter I love a jig mate. I made one for to adapt the souber door latch jig to enable me to fit concealed door latches, and when something works, it’s a good feeling. The very best jigs are the ones you make in minutes that save you hours. Lovely job bud!!!
Great minds Benjamin.😉 The rubber is gasket material I use for fixing glass balustrading in stair construction which I just contact glued onto the ply. You could even use kitchen door buffers as the are pretty, 'non slippy'.😎 Cheers. (saw horses rule👊)
Hi Lisa🖐It's a tricky one to advise without seeing what you've got😬If tge screws are sloppy in the holes, you will need to try and fill them with some small bits of wood and matchsticks can be good👍Cheers Del
Hi Sean. Its actually 1mm rubber that I use for gaskets when fitting glass balustrading on stair jobs.🤩 Any rubber would do though, or you could even just stick a few kitchen door buffer things on the ply to stop it slipping about.👍 Cheers
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Thank you so much for sharing this video, was battling with handles without fitting instructions or a template, made myself and jig and have been much less sweary. Thank you so much.
Hi Jon🖐It's my pleasure that my video has helped to ease you handle fitting stress👊Thank you for your donation🤗that's very kind👍Cheers Del
Lovely Del!!
Hi Robin. I know you like a jig mate.🤩 Cheers.
A handy tip for cutting down machine screws, put then into the combi drill chuck at the desired length, hold the hacksaw against the end of chuck and spin the drill anti clockwise.
Hi Darren. I have heard about this tip for cutting down machine screws. I must give it a try.👍 Cheers.
Lol did you get that tip from skill builder
@@fireblaster9961 I did see a two minute tip like this on SB.
Omg thank you so so much for this. Been losing my mind trying to replace a handle when the new handle came with zero instructions or any of the hardware labeled. Thank you.
It's my pleasure Karen😎and I'm glad my video helped🫡Cheers Del
Hi del you saved me today got asked to go to job in knightsbridge today and fit door furniture on high quality polished panel doors worth fortunes one slip and run bolt through high end handles had gig i bought on eBay but i didn’t fit lockes etc so couldn’t trust them to be square to door edge then remembered your video brilliant simple worked perfectly been in game now 50 years and still learning any youngsters i meet who are coming into our trade I always tell them if you get stuck with anything go on your channel I know you and i both think its very important to pass on our knowledge sorry gone on a bit but i do a lot of cut roofs in north London and saw dans roofing jig but im left handed and wondered if it would suit me thanks
Hi Terry🖐Great comment and appreciate your kind words🤗I always think the way I'm doing something, (and may well been for many years), is only temporary, until someone shows me a better way👍And when that day comes, it's always exciting now matter how long we've been at it🤓 I'm not sure about Dan's square and being a leftie, and perhaps you can reach out to him on Instagram for his advice👊Thanks again😎Cheers Del
“Let’s go Fishing” 🤣. That is so true. Great tips.
Hi GG🖐Yeah, you're always hoping when you put those screws in🤞Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Thank you so much. I was about to buy a really expensive Ryobi/Dewalt jig. Not only would the hole have been too big, I would have wasted £40 - 50! You’ve saved me! Happy days!
Hi Nita🖐That's great that this might help you AND save you money🤩Thanks for your comment 😎 Cheers Del
That jig idea is so sleek that you could just drill the screw dia one side of door and the drill barrel dia hole other side...but useful tips from video and all comments...Thank you
Hi DJ🖐You're quite right, and with a little more effort, could easily be able to mark both sides👍Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
That's made me so happy to see this jig mate. I've struggled this morning with one privercey set out of alinement thank you so much can't belive I'm looking forward to my next one next week been a a apprentice since 1978 haha still learning. Thanks so much Mate
Hi Mark😎 I know exactly how you feel bud, as I hated doing bolt through handles until I made this little jig👊 Thanks for your super comment and great to have a fellow tradesmen watching my video🤩 Cheers Del
Just fitted the same handles and latch to same doors but without the aid of your video I didn't think I could fit the outer through bolt as I thought it would go through the latch. I can now go back tomorrow and complete the job. And as I have four more doors to fit I will make a jig. Many thanks for the video.
Hi John. Its satisfying for me that my video has helped you out, and its the main reason I post them up😁Thanks for watching and all the best finishing your doors😎Cheers Del
wish i'd have seen this a few weeks ago. I am a complete novice. I have 17 doors to hang in my house, i made a hinge jig, a lock jig, but for some unknown reason ( in hindsight) i was freestyling this like a fool! thankfully i have only done 5 doors so far.
Hi Xan🖐You're house must be massive😆Sounds like you're doing a good job and hopefully using a jig for the handles will help🤞Thanks for your comment and for watching 😎 Cheers Del
There's a way without having to feel around with the screw. With the handle off and the spindle in one handle, put the long screws in the door handle holes and thread both the metal rods on about 3 or 4 turns. Now you can just push that handle and the 2 rods all the way through to the other side, with enough to make the ends of the rods poke out the 2 holes on the other side. At least on my door the rods could poke out, they taper slightly thinner at the ends. This way there isn't any feeling around for the hole inside the door - the rod is there poking out - you can just put the short screws in the other handle and be able to see the ends get screwed in.
Hi there🖐I think I get what you're saying and thanks for leaving your comment🤩Cheers Del
The right latch. Kept wondering why I could never get the bolts through. Latch was always in the way.
Yes, you definitely need bolt through latches to work with bolt through handles👍Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
I'd say you were lucky thus time, I went fishing for half an hour on my last handle. Success came when I switched sides for some reason, and fished from the left instead of the right
Oh yeah, it can make you want to pull your hair out sometimes trying to get the bolt located😵💫Thanks for watching and your comment 😎 Cheers Del
Top class tip. Thank you.
My pleasure Pete👍Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
That's a great tip, thank you. I've struggled with drilling accurate holes for these handles in the past, and have also seen so many customers where the long screws have been left of then the small trim screws fail and ruin the door. I have 11 doors to do in a house soon so. 👍🏻
You're spot there Eric.😃 In many cases, these bolt through screws get left off in favour, as you say, for just the tiny wood screws, and these are not really up to the job.😬 Great comment.👍
Brilliant seen sum snagging videos with people leaving out the bolts..and wondered why...🙌🙌🧐💡
It can be a fiddly and time consuming job Maxwell, hence the get left out😬Cheers Del
Just fitted 7 bang same doors & the identical handle and your "fishing 🎣" analogy is bang on 🤣 I had 2 bathroom locks with thumb turns so was twice the flustrasion 😡 trying to get the through bots to line up spent far too long messing around with them. Great video 👍 thanks for the great tip.
Hi Rob. The thumb turns are awful to line up. Even slightly out and makes it hard to turn.😬 Yeah, sometimes you can be, 'fishing', around for ages trying to get the screws lined up.😝 Great comment mate, now get yourself a beer.🍻 Cheers
Needed this 6 months ago! i did them on the exact same cottage doors and handles! 😂 now i know a better way! 🙏 thank you!
Apologies for my inconsiderate timing sammcm91.😂 These are Ironmongery Direct handles and latches and they are decent quality.😎 Thanks for your comment.👍
Great video, tackling this tomorrow, 10 doors to do.
All the best with your doors👍and thanks for watching🤩Cheers Del
Genius Del, that's a great jig!
Cheers Remlok👊Thanks for watching
Good little tips there Del. Thank you.👍
Thanks for watching Frank, and your comment.🤩
Great tip, fast clean effective, I hope all the young carpenters take these tips on board
Hi Darren. I really hope so too.🤞 Thanks for your comment mate.👍
@@thetallcarpenter could you imagine if we had RUclips back in the day?? I wonder would we be better or worse carpenters
@@darrenroche9225 Couldn't even imagine what it would have been like in the 80,s if everyone and anyone could have filmed themselves🤪 My youth was awesome in my memory and keeps getting better. I would hate to spoil those memories with actual video evidence of how it really was!!!!. 🤯 Cheers.
That was a great well explained lesson. Thanks.
Thanks for watching Michael🤩Cheers Del
Great logic centering on the spindle and a handy jig too.
Hi Mark. Yeah, it made sense to me to use the spindle as the marking/reference point.😎 Thanks for your comment and for watching.👍
Very neat. Thanks for sharing the tip about the jig 👍🏻
Hi Tony. No sweat mate, and thanks for watching.👍
So simple, yet so effective . . . . Nicely presented Video
Thank you Pete🤗 Cheers Del
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Previous attempts measuring and levelling from the door edge have been, erm, interesting particularly with 3 year old 'helpers'.... This made it so much easier and quicker!
Hi QuickDraw🖐 Glad you've found the tip useful, you'll just have explain to your helper how to use it, VERY slowly using big shapes and bright colours🤪 Thanks for your comment 😎 Cheers Del
Nice tip this can make all the difference on these jobs
Sure can PA.🤩 Thanks for your comment.👍
this is dam useful fitted today using a jig bolts are lining up nicely thank you
That's great, and glad this simple guide has made fitting these fiddly screws easier🤩Cheers Del
Great tip and impeccable timing - Have got a load of these coming up to fit so will be making this jig, many thanks
Salad Dodger. (great name🤩). It'll definitely speed up the fitting.💪 Happy door swinging.👍 Cheers.
Good idea for the bolt through fixings.much better than those short screws that always come loose
Hi RC. Thanks for your comment.🤩 I know everyone has different ways and opinions, but I don't think those little screws are enough on their own to withstand the large leverage forces put on rose/fixing plate if the handle is over turned, so I always fit them bolt through.😎 Thanks for your comment mate.👍
That's a great little jig.
Another good idea to speed up lining up the pesky screws is to push a straw in hole first so it acts as sleeve.
I'm definitely keeping a few straws in my box now.
Great idea.😎 Trouble is, the old plastic straws are getting harder to find nowadays, as apparently, someone's been chucking them in the sea, so we now have to use big chunky cardboard ones.😁 Great comment.👍
@@thetallcarpenter Earth sleave works ok too 👍
@@jrsuk1170 Nice.🤩
Watching your videos like Coronation street at the minute loving the detail. Im a time served joiner learning lots from the extra tips from the detail your giving. Great stuff. Fancy making myself a trusty set of old school saw horses like you have there. Would love a video of them old school bad boys. 👍🏻
Hi Ben🖐I hope you don't get fed up of my voice😵Appreciate you watching my stuff and I may well make a new set of saw horses, which I will, obviously, video👊Thanks for your great comment 😎 Cheers Del
Will look forward to that one! Keep them coming 👍🏻👍🏻👌
Great video. Some electricians linesman’s pliers have integrated bolt cutters for shortening machine screws. We use them when fitting pattress boxes/ light switches/plug switches. The screw screws in and is cut with the action of the plier, you then screw the screw out which maintains the screw thread. This would save you so much time with guess work and filing down post cut. Thanks for a great video, I’ve got some door handles to fit and your channel has been so useful.
Hi Liam🖐Thanks for the heads up on those pliers bud, Ill definitely look into them👊I'm glad my videos are helpful and thanks for watching and your great comment😎Cheers Del
Been watching your stuff for a while Your helping me through my apprenticeship many thanks
Hi James. My videos are sort of aimed at guys like you mate.👊I'm hoping that, as my channel builds, I can pass on many of the little, (and big), bits of knowledge that I have accumulated over the past 35 years as a carpenter.😎 Cheers.
This video is brill! Saved me so much time, made myself a homemade jig and away I was, Thankyou 👍🏽 checking out how to fit it actual latch now! 👍🏽👍🏽
That's great Brett, and I'm really pleased my video has helped 😀 Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Great video, very useful jig and tips. Thank you for sharing.
Hi Stephen. No problem. Thanks for watching mate.👍
Very nice. I have learned a lot from you! Thanks!
Hi there🖐I'm glad my videos are of interest to you🤩Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Hi Del. Right video this time. So use a jig to get through bolts. But then you get this sort of nonsense. You have done the holes square, put the handle level(square to the door) but now the bloody holes in the handle are not in the square position, they are cocked over a d you have a right job to get the handle right.
I tried to put a photo so you could have a laugh but I don't think it got attached.
@@benjaminhunt283 Message me at thetallcarpenteruk 👍
Hi Benjamin🖐 That's sounds like a right pain mate, and real ball ache to now get right😬
Great tip mate, keep them coming. Love your videos.
Its great that you watch them mate.🤩 Cheers.
@@thetallcarpenter they're always great to watch and to pick up some tips, in my view as Carpenter we're always learning from each other. Amazes me of the tips we can pick up after doing something the hard way for years lol. But yep, keep the videos coming. Appreciate them.
Cheers from Australia.
@@bartbug1 You're so right mate. The more we interact with each other the more knowledge gets transferred. Great to have you watching from down under.🤩 Cheers.
Put the screw in to the chuck of the drill put the hacksaw against the screw and forward with the cordless 👌👌👌👌👌.
Hi Mark. I've seen that done and it looks pretty quick.👊 Cheers
Great to have a ‘system’ for doing these sorts of jobs 👌
Hi Mat. You're dead right mate.🤩 Thanks for your comment.👍
very nice, good detail and well filmed.
Hi Gary. Appreciate your comment and thanks for watching. 😎
Great tip really enjoy your content more jigs please
Hi James. Thanks for watching and your comment.😎
Well done we would be lost without or jigs mate !!👌👌
You know that Simon.🤩 Best thing about site made jigs is they are free and usually made out of scraps.😜 Cheers.
Simple ideas are the best and no pencil marks GREAT
Some guys over mark the door, and its almost impossible to remove, especially on unfinished wood.😩 Cheers
Really appreciating the insights to your process... Really helpful to me..
Its my pleasure bud.🤩 Thank you for your comment.👍
Brilliant Video. Many Thanks For Sharing.
Hi there🖐Thanks for watching and your comment😎Cheers Del
That’s brilliant - haven’t fitted bolt-through handles before so came across your video really just to see how they worked, this video is so much more than that. Clever idea with the jig, superb! Thank you for sharing 👍
Hi Simon🖐I'm glad you found it interesting and thanks for watching and your great comment 😎 Cheers Del
excellent demonstration sir, great way of making things easy for yourself..👌👌
Always looking to make things a little easier Errol😉 Thanks for your comment mate.👍
Just in time for me to do a load of Oak pre finished doors tomorrow. 👍😀
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@@thetallcarpenter and I get to have a play with my relatively new trend skeleton jig and my new robin clevett jig. I should be paying them for tomorrow!
@@garethheathcote4988 That sounds great mate. Hope you have a good day tomorrow.🤞🤩 Cheers.
There it is great job lol. Lucky you got them in the rite place first time... coz they can be a rite pain in the hole at times. Love the gig must make one of them up for myself.... all the best big man
Hi Boots. 👋 Yeah, you're absolutely right, they are a nightmare if the fixing holes don't line up 😵 Thanks for watching and your great comment 😎 Cheers.
lovely tip 👌 they can be very fiddly some times! haha
Hi Ashley. I.ve tried all sorts of jig/templates and find this one to the easiest and least bulky.😎 Thanks for your comment.👍
In a word, awesome!
Thank you sir, I'll definitely be making one of those.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
All the very best,
Steve. 👍👍
Hi Steve. Glad you found the video helpful👍 Thanks for watching 😎
Great idea 👌 now can we see the outtakes please 😂😂
Hi Andrew. Videoing that was pretty straight forward.🤩 Most of what I cut out is either me waffling on too much or someone barging in or shouting swear words.🤬 Cheers.
Great tip pulled me out of a hole 👌
That's absolutely brilliant Martin, and gives me a real boost to keep making the videos👍Cheers Del
On point as usual, always nice to see a job well done. Cute workbench btw, clearly sees aome real use. I'm one of those cowboys who still locates on the mechanism/faceplate.
Hi Disklamer🖐Yeah, my saw horses have definitely seen some action😲Thanks for your comment 😎 Cheers Del
Haha same, but I'm over it now, I need this
Great idea. Will make one for my remaining doors. The only problem I had was spindle hole size as I commented in previous vid. I opted for 19mm instead of 20mm recommend but when the bolts were nipped up circlip and washer on the back of the rose protrudes and binds. I ended up running a burr around the spindle hole to accommodate the circlip. I doubt the 20mm recommended would have cleared it. Thanks again👍
Hi RG🖐Yes, sometimes the circling and handle boss to protrude proud of the back of the backplate, and I usually just pair around the hoke a bit to accommodate it👊Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter oh thanks Del...thought I was going mad. I will be prepared on the next ones. Had considered a 22mm forstener bit first, then drilling spindle to 19mm, but a Stanley blade may do nicely without overcomplicating. 😆 You make it look too easy 😎👍
I like your simple, easy to understand videos, and your non-condescending attitude to us viewers. I have a question though - when it comes to fitting the handles, couldn't you just attach the handles to the spindles, then attach them to the door by the three screws, THEN mark and drill the two bolt-through holes (from one side if one is careful not to break out the other side), remove the 3 screws and then fit the two bolts, then screw the three screws back to finish up the handle? Or am I being dumb? I am a DIY'er with a little experience, and I have 8 of these exact doors to fit, with corresponding bolt-through handles almost identical to the ones you fitted, so am somewhat apprehensive. Also, what size auger would you suggest for the spindle and and mechnism, and could I use a spade bit instead of an auger bit? Oh yeah, I've subscribed! Cheers.
Hi there🖐You could mark the holes for the through bolt's as you describe, but I'd definitely drill in from each side as the bolt holes are VERY close to the edge of the back plate rose. Check outmy video on fitting these latches, and the drill sizes are in the comments section👍Thanks for watching and your comment 😎 Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter Thanks for the quick reply. Yes I get what you're saying, and can understand the risk of drilling through and having the holes on the other side come through outside of the rose. I think therefore a jig, like you have made, will be the best method, as then drilling through both sides should ensure the holes are in alignment. I hope.
@@TrueBrit1 👍😎
Good vid!.. I do the same technique.. although I made a jig out of MDF with the same 40mm holes and bolt hole it wraps around both sides of the door and has the non slip car mats on the inside and I clamp them in place.. great minds!
That's a good idea 👍
Hi Craig. I did make an elaborate jig just as you describe, and it was perfect. Unfortunately I left it on a job, and by the time I returned to pick it up, the labourer had had a clear up and burnt it.🤬I couldn't be arsed to make a new one, (as it was made out of laminate floor offcuts), so I just made this ply one instead.👊 Thanks for watching and your great comment.👍
Ahh yes!.. that horrible feeling when you realise “I left that on that job”
Keep up the good work and the vids mate 👍🏻👊🏻
@@craigbarry1340 Cheers.😎
Brilliant jig good tips
Thanks for your comment Lester.🤩
Lovely job. What latches would suit a 1939 door for bolt-through handles 38mm apart? I used one I picked up and mangled the first door fitting it. Old latches were quite shallow so I would prefer a small/shallow one. .
Hi Lynda🖐Sorry, bit it's virtually impossible for me to advise what handles would suit your application without seeing what you already have🤔Cheers Del
Hate putting them handles on but good idea gonna make one of them jigs and give it a go 👍
See how you get on with it Gary.👊 Thanks for watching.😎
Fitted a few Jedo handles they had a sleeve sits in the centre with 2 female ends so much easier can fiddly especially before tea time 🫖
Hi John. I have fitted some of those, and I remember thinking how much better the fixing method was.😃 Cheers.
I neve get them to line up correctly and usually use the screws instead but this jig is a must
They can be a pain Mike, but I think they hold the handle so much better than just the screws👊Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
Nice one 👍 those screw heads can be a pain, not all made well, had a few snap while tightening up.
Hi Mark. These screws were actually OK, but, as you say, a lot of the screws in these kits are made out of cheese.🤨 Cheers.
Brilliant tip
Cheers Stuart.😎 Thanks for your comment.
Excellent tips
Hi Minarchist. 🖐 Thanks for watching.👍
Perfect I'll be using that one so easy and accurate
Hi there. It really is simple and has given me great, consistent results.😎 Thanks for your comment.
@@thetallcarpenter your welcome keep up the good work mate 👍
@@oreallyoreilly6576 🤩
Great channel, new subscriber.
Hi 125SM. Thanks for watching and subscribing.🤩 Cheers
Love your videos so helpful am doing my Apprenticeship however not with w carpentry firm so am having to teach myself at home so your videos are literally teaching me all the things I need to know was wondering if you could door a door latches installation video
Hi there. Sorry to hear that you are not working on a firm to do your apprenticeship. I did a latch fitting video on these very doors, but, due to me being a beginner at film making, I lost some of the footage, so couldn't complete it.😬 It wont be that long before I start on the next plot, and there will be door lining and latch fitting videos from that.👍 I am aware that there is many guys in your situation, which is mainly why I am posting videos of my work.😎 Well done mate.
@@thetallcarpenter thank you. Look forward to the upcoming videos keep up the great work!
@@PhilBremner7 🤩
Excellent content.
Fitting with non-connecting screws should be illegal imo. Atleast the handles should only be sold with connecting bolts. I recently got locked in through that, but luckily there was no emergency
Tell me if you agree
Hi James🖐I hadn't really thought about it bud, but you have got a point, and a handle coming off, as you found out, could easily lead to you getting stuck in a room😩Yes, you're also right that maybe all handles should clamp to the spindle, especially on fire doors etc🤔Great comment and thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
I'm struggling with the bolts, preexisting holes every 18 months I'm fiddling about trying to fix handles hanging off the door with tiny screws. I bought new latches in order to fix back to back bolts but the handles line up with the holes making it difficult to get a screwdriver in.
Hi there🖐Yes, lining the bolts up can be EXTREMELY fiddly and frustrating😬Try drilling slightly bigger holes if you can👍Cheers Del
Love that tip , thxs
Whatto Jim.🖐
Spot on👍
Thanks Bob.🤩
Great Video. Thank you for taking the time to make the video. I have few silly questions that I want to ask 😂 is the door a hollow door or is it solid? I have hollow door that I need to put handles on it. Similar to yours but worried that it won't hold it. And second question is what drill size do you use to make the holes? Once again thank you 🙂
Hi Tazul 🖐 These doors are solid core, but even hollow core doors will have a fairly decent sized lock block in the the edge which will be solid timber and easily take a bolt through latch👊From memory, I think I am using a 4.5mm drill bit for the bolt though bolts, but do use a drill that suite the particular bolt size as they can differ in diameter👍Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
Too Good!
Too kind🤗
That looked a lot easier than when I did it 😂😂
Are you able to tell me how you managed to get square through bolt to sit "square" in the jig? many thanks, great video
Hi there🖐The round hole in the jig is quite tight for the square spindle to fit through, and this keeps it pretty square when lining the jig up. There is a certain amount of tolerance to be expected which is why I drill the holes for the bolts slightly bigger than then need to be👍Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter Ok thanks for the quick response Del! Much appreciated, I'll have a go on a few bits of scrap 👍
@@p4fizzle 🤞😎
Top job good tip
Cheers Colin.😎 Thanks for your comment.👍
If I'm correct the bolt through are for hollow doors, for solid doors you can use just the 3 screws like ordinary handles
Hi Jazz🖐In my experience, just securing these lever on rose handles with screws handles only, can lead to them twisting when to the lever is turned👍Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
I had a hell of a job lining the screws up... couldn't find the female end with the bolt... finicky work! I ended up with stub screws on one door instead! Retirement on the cards!🤣
It's a fiddly old job lining those bolts up Andrew😩Sometimes you can one that seems to take forever😲Thanks for watching and happy retirement😆Cheers Del
The template was a very good idea! Excellent work
@@andrewbradbury8527 🤗😎
Simple but very effective. Great tip.
Thanks for your comment.👍
Great idea , but iv fucked around with them bolts longer than it takes to swing the door they don’t even screw in when there in your hands so they go in the bin😂 great vid mate 👍
Hi there. To be fair, these are good quality handles and the machined screws are very good.😎 BUT, I agree with you about the length of time you can mess about with the poorer quality ones, and it can infuriating trying to fit them.🤬 Thanks for your comment.👍
If the doors solid wood I don't use them wood screws only if the door is veneer over chipcboard I always use them no matter what or you would have a slack Handel in a short space of time
@@briangordon1767 👍
Almost all caught up with all the vids. Ive actually been noting all the tips. Really Ace channel! will you consider putting up a link to send some tea bags your way
Hi Its great that you've watched loads of my videos and commented on nearly all of them.🤩😎 Its great that you've enjoyed them.☕ Cheers.
@@thetallcarpenter My pleasure 😎😎😎
@@garvielloken3929 🤩👍
Nice one Mr tall but you didn’t show the bit were you had to cut down the anti turn screws because they were to long and hit the latch body 😜
Hi Jim. Fortunately, as these were on a tubular latch, the screws positions in the handle rose actually miss the latch body.👍 I did have to file a tiny bit of the end of the screw for the bathroom lock though.😉 Great comment.👍
Yeah this caught me out too. Gave up on the bolts as wasn’t bothered cutting down after all of the faffing around to try line them up. Moved onto the screws instead and once fully tightened the latch stuck and lock wouldn’t come out…took me a minute to realise the bloody screws were too long also. Wish I’d watched this video and read this comment before I started 😂
Brilliant video mate. Excellent tip 👍👍👍👍 Can I just share that I’ve taken the plunge and uploaded my first video?!
I'll watch it now Tyler mate. 👍😀
Hi Tyler. Great news mate. Is it on your channel now?.
@@thetallcarpenter yes. Sorry if you can’t understand me as I’m disabled. I hope you still enjoy it
@@TYLERCONSTRUCTION Well done Tyler. It takes a lot of balls to make and post videos, and especially if you have challenges that don't make it straightforward.👍
@@thetallcarpenter Thank you very much
Have you had the handle where the rose won't go past the handle! What a bloody pain especially when the spindle to hole locations weren't accurate enough for template/jig. Had to cut a pencil to 18mm long and hold with a pair of pliers. It was crazy. Took soooo long.😖
Ironmongery and materials my biggest bugbear for the last decade.
Hi Benjamin. YES, that and all sorts of issues due to poorly made ironmongery.😩 When I work for developers now, they always get better quality stuff for me now, as its quicker to fit, works better, looks better and lasts longer that cheaper, contractors stuff.👊 No matter what stuff you have though, sometimes one of these latches/locks/handles/privacy knobs, just seems to take miles longer than the rest cause you just cant get it to, 'click'.😣 Cheers.
I have a question, can you use a hammer drill on the door frame to chisel out a indentation for the strike plate?
Hi Sky Wolf 🖐 I guess you could, but it may be a little like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut👊Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter ah, thank you for your reply! I'm just looking for something that's easier than the very old fashioned hammer and chisel XD do you know of any tools like that?
@@skywolfx76 Hi there. I don't know of anything that might replace a hammer and chisel for this other than a router, which could take the bulk of the material out, leaving the rest to be tidied up by hand tools🔨👍Cheers Del
tidy ! I've seen guys put on handles with impact drivers, they always regret it!
NO WAY!!. You cant be letting rip with an impact driver on this sort of job.😩 I don't disbelieve you though Matthew.🤠 Cheers.
Iv always wandered why they dont alternate the hole position on the handles on each side so you could put thicker screw in door as you can only put a screw half thickness of door sondont hit other side screw. Ive got young kids and they nearly hanf off the door handles and have to keep tightening at times
Hi Martin. You make a good point, and children can soon expose a weakness in anything.🤪 Cheers.
@@thetallcarpenter thanks i always wondered why they didnt do it tbh. Have to admit i hate hanging doors i need to improve on them
@@offcuts4146 Just practice I guess Martin, but hard to motivate yourself to practice something you're not keen on.😬 Cheers.
Probably a stupid question but how does the screw nearest the lock edge pass the mechanism inside the door?
Not a stupid question Ray.🤩 The latches and locks that are to be used with this handles have holes in their bodies to allow the screws/bolts to pass through them. They are known as, 'bolt through', latches/locks. They provide a better fixing for the handles, particularly when they are on a circular back plate.👍 Cheers.
Thanks for a speedy reply 👍🏻 love your steady approach and the carport build was fantastic. Keep them coming as my son loves watching as well. He’s a first year carpentry student at tech and is only allowed to use hand tools so he’s learning the trade ground up.👍🏻
@@raysmith6891 Hi Ray. If my videos are helping your lad, then that makes me feel really good, as its the main reason I'm making the videos.🤩 What's his name?
Just mark all three holes at once. This looks like a longer way of doing it.
Hi there🖐Where would you position the jig to mark all 3 holes at the same time🤔Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter I normally mark the 3 points on a line on both sides and then drill pilots right through then increase to the desired diameter.
@@thetallcarpenter I always drill the barrel hole and mark the 3 points and drill.
Top Tip: Cross thread is as good as loctite.
Oh yeah Kevin, it'll certainly never come undone😆Cheers Del
Great tip.... just one comment.... sell the jigtech system to the customer.... massive time saver🤣🤣🤣
Hi Paul. You're a wicked man!!😝
@@thetallcarpenter I love a jig mate. I made one for to adapt the souber door latch jig to enable me to fit concealed door latches, and when something works, it’s a good feeling. The very best jigs are the ones you make in minutes that save you hours. Lovely job bud!!!
@@paulyoull5472 Thanks Paul.😎 (great comment).👍
I do a similar thing. What rubber do you use?
Same with saw horse too.😂
Great minds Benjamin.😉 The rubber is gasket material I use for fixing glass balustrading in stair construction which I just contact glued onto the ply. You could even use kitchen door buffers as the are pretty, 'non slippy'.😎 Cheers. (saw horses rule👊)
how did you make the homemade jig?
Hi there🖐Its just a bit of 9mm ply with a few holes drilled in it👍Cheers Del
Any videos when it's pre drilled but handles are falling off because holes are too big how can I fix this without drilling new holes ? X
Hi Lisa🖐It's a tricky one to advise without seeing what you've got😬If tge screws are sloppy in the holes, you will need to try and fill them with some small bits of wood and matchsticks can be good👍Cheers Del
Great job, where did you get the rubber? Very smart 😊
Hi Sean. Its actually 1mm rubber that I use for gaskets when fitting glass balustrading on stair jobs.🤩 Any rubber would do though, or you could even just stick a few kitchen door buffer things on the ply to stop it slipping about.👍 Cheers
@@thetallcarpenter great idea thanks, must keep an eye out for you random pieces lol I'll look a bit mad :)
@@rockandmeatroll 😎