It’s weird to think about it cause it’s obvious he’s looking at them, but you would never think that’s exactly what he was thinking I always thought he was looking at luke and smiling at him letting him know everything is gonna be ok
I like how most of these are conceptually interesting plot points that could be fleshed out from small points from the films, into larger stories, but anything from the sequels is just shite storytelling. 😂
"All the Jedi we have left" doesn't mean every last Jedi, he means those that are at the Temple. Many Jedi, especially those in the guardian class, would have been out in the universe like Qui Gon and Obi in episode 1.
Came here to say the same thing. Sidious had been orchestrating unrest across the galaxy via the Separatists and as a result many Jedi had been deployed as negotiators and to keep the peace.
@@baron7755 Jedi with blue sabers are guardians, Jedi with green sabers are called Consulars. Guardians focus on action, Consulars focus more on learning about the force and maintaining a strong relationship with it. It's not mentioned in the moves, like many things, but that's how they were organized during that era. Edit: The saber colors are not a hard rule (they are not forced to use the color of their school) but most did
@@Muataran Nobody should have to know that, which you point out, so I'm not coming down on you. What about purple? What about red? I thought it was just the color/rarity of the kiber crystal...as in, my understanding didn't need to go any deeper. Just like midichlorians. Didn't need to scientifically explain the force Jorge.
Here's one: Luke's original intention was to join the Empire. The 'academy' that he mentions wanting to run off to in A New Hope, that Biggs had already run off to, was the IMPERIAL academy. The rebellion had no academy - they were rebels, outlaws. They had no organized government and certainly if they had anything resembling an academy that people actually knew about to the extent that some hillbilly farm boy knew how to contact and join it, it would have been a sitting target for the Empire. Remember that the location of the Rebel's military base was unknown to both the Empire and the population at large at this time. In deleted footage, Biggs tells Luke his plan is to join the academy and then hop over to the rebellion with some friends at the first opportunity. He was obviously successful, and this was apparently Luke's plan as well...
I would have chosen Tattooine and its relative freedom (being so remote from the Empire...well, then you have the Hutts...) over purposefully joining the military service of an evil empire.
When Mace Windu said he would take "all the Jedi we have left" to Geonosis, he meant at the temple. With all the unrest around the galaxy due to the separatists, many of the Jedi would have already been out in the galaxy like Qui Gon and Obi Wan had been in Episode 1.
If you tease that out, that actually gives a good head-canon explanation for why the Jedi fared so poorly in that battle. If all of the best were out in the galaxy on other assignments, all you had left at the temple were those who couldn’t (too young, too old, not competent enough, etc.) handle that kind of detached duty.
With Luke not seemingly grieving his aunt and uncle, I think he took advantage of the opportunity to throw himself into the mission of getting the Death Star plans to the Rebels, and then helping destroy it. As for grieving Obi-Wan more, that was not the case by any means; he mourns for a few mere minutes before needing to get into a gun fight with those TIE fighters. His life and death situation through the rest of the movie allowed him to compartmentalize his grief.
And also, I’m pretty sure we can accept the explanation of Luke grieving off-screen in our heads. Like do we need to hear him mop about for several minutes on his way back to Obi-Wan, or after the battle with TIE fighters?
But they were basically his parents. They raised him for 19 years and thats how he reacts to their death. 99% of the time when parent figures die or get murdered the normal human reaction is to be heartbroken unless they treated Luke like crap which didn't seem like was the case. I love A New Hope but that scene always bothered me. Also the scene where Leia sees her planet destroyed was a sucky reaction too. I know this is legends but I also found it strange that Luke would name his son after Kenobi and not Owen. Owen raised Luke for 19 years but instead he names his son after the man who he knew for about a week. I hope Owen and Buru get the justice they deserve in the Kenobi TV series.
@@CometStar100 I think you'd find in real life that not everyone blows up in tears when loved ones die. Some people will throw themselves into whatever distractions they can to deal with loss. Some put up a front, telling themselves that toughing it out is the right way to go. As for Obi-Wan, we don't really know their relationship as a whole. But I think it's safe to say they hadn't just met for the first time when he saved Luke from the Sand People. "Ben, boy am I glad to see you," suggests they've had interactions before. Maybe the Obi-Wan series will show this.
@@OneGaurdian Well yeah not everyone but the majority would especially a 19 year old plus we have seen Luke be more emotional in other circumstances. I am not sure why that was Lukes reaction in that scene in real life but my guess is it was the editing and maybe they did not have a shot of him grieving for whatever reason. His parents were murdered and it's kinda brushed off. It's not a satisfying response and yes not every person reacts death the same but in movies the majority of time when parents are murdered there is a bit more of a reaction. Even if he knew Ben before A New Hope it didn't seem like they were that close to the point where he would name his son after him. Owen was essentially Lukes father for 19 years. Unless he really treated Luke like crap but it seemed like he cared for Luke. I guess we will find out what their relationship was like in the Kenobi series.
Seems to me Luke may have compartmentalized the deaths of Owen and Beru, and his reaction to Obi-Wan's death at the hands of Vader was expressing some of this repressed grief. The kid has been through a lot in a short amount of time, after 19 years of a basically boring life on a moisture farm.
I've always wanted to see a star wars show or movie that followed a dark side user that wasn't evil but more of an anti-hero who travels the galaxy killing the evil and corrupt, kinda like a force-wielding punisher. the force unleashed gave us a glimpse at a heroic dark side user with starkiller.
@@bradconrad1961 sort of. But he was some type of person able to use the force. Idk if he was a Sith who turned against their ideals, or if he just used their lightsabers.
@@bjorndanielsen4680 In that Visions Reality the Sith are Ronin while the Jedi are Samurai loyal to their Shogun. They're neither good nor evil but both. Also that Ronin is the Original Sith hunting down his former disciples for being dishonorable.
I would like to point out that being calm doesn't make one "not evil." Count Dooku did lot of bad things and not letting his emotions rule his judgement doesn't forgive that. And as far as Darth Vectivus, remember that of what we know comes from a person came from Lady Lumiya, a character who had every reason to lie to Jacen Solo to manipulate him. Plus, one person resisting the negative aspects of the Dark Side doesn't make it safe
He didn't say it was safe, just that it wasn't inherently evil. It obviously leaves you much more susceptible to temptation as they(the sith, the most notable practicioners of dark side force) do not have the rigid restrictions the Jedi have about certain knowledge. But temptation is within the person, not the force. So it dosen't make the aspect of the force evil. Just it's lack of restriction makes it incredibly attractive to evil beings. There's a reason they always talk about balance, instead of outright eradicating the dark side of the force. Mace Windu for example. Harnesses the dark side of the force with Balance to the light, but is not an evil being nor is that darkness corrupting him. And also as we've seen the Jedi's outright fear of the dark side of the force is part of the reason such a gap is stricken between the 2 sides.
Exactly. If never getting angry was all it took to make a person morally righteous, then scores of serial killers would be very righteous indeed. That said, the Dark Side seems to be geared toward destruction, not evil. And sometimes destruction is the most moral option available (executing an unrepentant murderer who has already escaped from prison several times, for example). Luke used a Force choke on the Gamorrean guards in Jabba the Hutt's palace, but his intent was merely to incapacitate them, not to kill them or even to frighten them. So I wish the STAR WARS characters wouldn't conflate "fear," "anger," "hate," and "aggression" when discussing the Dark Side; only one of those is inherently evil, and "aggression" is essentially neutral. Sometimes you've just got to play a little rough.
@@braddorcas9363 Balance refers to eradicating the Sith, not giving an equal measure to light and dark. Dark is not just some other method of using the force, it is distorting the force for selfish, destructive intent. You cannot separate the dark side as just another aspect of the force from the danger that it represents. Balance is achieved when the dark side no longer clouds the force with its malicious will. George Lucas has said as much, that destroying the Sith is what brings balance.
@@SeasideDetective2 In Plinkett’s (Red Letter Media) review of the prequels he rightly explains that very thing. Emotions are complex things and don’t follow a certain path. Anger doesn’t always lead to hate or fear. Suffering can lead to hate and anger they’re too interchangeable to define.
The one thing about Star Wars that people seem to never remember, is that it's a Space Opera. Most Space Operas are all about Good and Evil. That is what was Lucas was going for in 4,5,and 6. It was the comics, novels, and the Disney+ shows where more darker takes started to show up. 1,2,and 3 was more darker because it was Anakin's fall.
I think older-timey (50’s?60’s?) episodic movie serials like (Flash Gordon?)were an influence on the original Star Wars films as well. Often very clear good & evil lines and characters. I think they may have started similar to how what I’ve seen of the Clone Wars TV series were presented to us. I mean the intro to each show, not really the stories. Also, samurai films were an influence as well, I believe? By Kurosawa?
Re. how long Luke knew Obi-Wan: as a kid in the '70s, I (along with most of my peers) tended to assume Luke's meeting with Kenobi after the Sand People incident was his first... but as an adult, I find myself going back to that line "Ben Kenobi! Boy, am I glad to see YOU." I think it indicates that Luke has known *Ben* his whole life, and the impression that he and Luke had never met is actually a misapprehension of Luke stating that he doesn't know who *Obi-Wan* is. This is simply because Luke doesn't realize that "he's me", as Old Ben so succinctly put it. Luke's familiarity with Old Ben is obvious in their dialogue after the incident with the Tusken Raiders. My stoner buddies and I used to joke that Luke, Biggs, Camie, and Fixer used to buy their space weed (Marcan herb, I guess) off of Old Ben. He was the Anchorhead equivalent of Tommy Chong in "The Colour out of Space". Luke would have known Old Ben for most of his 19 years, to discover only at the very end that the old hermit was far more important than he could ever have imagined.
Plus, Luke was a teenager. Uncle was the resented figure that would not even let him go smoke some "power converters" with his friends. They probably been fighting for years over "going to the academy." So Luke runs off with the local guru because he's so happy and well adjusted into the farm life?
Ooooh! i get it now, you think it's one of those youg man - old man relationship ;) shhhh i can keep a secret, especially in the middle of a HOT (oh, so hot) desert **wink wink**
The "Luke commited an act of terrorism when he destroyed the Death Star" line of thinking is stupid. First, it wasn't an act of terrorism. The Death Star was a military target which had previously engaged in combat, and Luke attacked it in uniform, identifying himself as a part of a military unit. Terrorists wear civilian clothes while attacking civilians. Luke committed a justifiable act of war. Second, the Death Star destroyed an entire planet, unprovoked, killing millions of people. Everyone on board is complicit in that act, and therefore is fair game. It's like saying we shouldn't have attacked the Nazis, because some of them didn't fully agree with Hitler. I think most of the galaxy would've joined/sympathized with the Rebellion after Alderaan, and would've thought the Death Star's destruction an act of good.
Thank you. Finally someone who knows the friggin difference between a terrorist, a combatant, an act of war and a war crime. If anything, the destruction of Alderaan was an act of terror. Unprovoked, unannounced, against civilians. That was nothing short of a crime aganist humanity and a genocide.
The Death Star obliterated three planets *that we know of*: Jedha and (whatever planet the final battle of Rogue One was), then Alderaan. Pretty sure that’s like Ukrainians taking out the latest Russian tank patrol in their country, stopping them before they killed more.
Here's the thing; the Death Star was a complete secret to most people in the Empire, and likely even until its destruction. Sure, the Empire can spin all the propaganda it wants about the "heinous rebels and their terrorist attacks" but the second someone asks: "Wait, what kind of station did they blow up again?" Uh.....
Not to mention that, even IF people found out about it, it was the station used to destroy Alderaan which actually DID galvanize people to joining the Rebellion...oh, two million people died on your big space-ball? That's nothing compared to a BILLION people on a peaceful planet.
@@Gilleban You forget that people only know what you tell them, pro-empire propaganda isn't going to call it a space ball of death that blew up a planet, it would only focus on building sympathy for the imperials killed
@@Gilleban True. And because the Death Star blew up Alderaan, this caused some problems for Palpatine. And he even said that Tarkin is lucky that he died on the Death Star because Palpatine would have punished him severely.
Leia: "How can these Ewok's hold their own against the Imperials?!" Han: "It's their turf and their ambush. Makes all the difference." Great exchange from the Radio Drama of RotJ
The better question is "How can rocks and sharp sticks pierce Stormtrooper armor?" Seriously. That stuff can't stop blasters, it can't stop pointy objects, what actual good is it?
@@brianhall4182 the same way that Maces and Hammers were the bane of full plate. The impact transfers through the armour into the body. Ewoks are surprisingly strong despite their small stature.
😲I love the radio drama! 😁 The Ewoks are great little warriors but they were out-classed. I seem to recall that their seeming to “hold their own” was only temporary. After a bit, they started getting slaughtered (but Chewie and his little buddy gaining control of an ATST definitely seemed to help, a lot!) because I believe the Empire troops were ordered to let them seem to win for a bit. It was a feint and part of the Emperor’s cruel & convoluted (& overconfident 😉) plan to wipe out the Rebels and hopefully get control over Luke, as well. Also, the SW writer/s were trying to tell a good story! Gonna have the good guys win in the end, but there’s gonna be some back-and-forth twists first! 🙂
@@EliWintercross Agreed. They’re also armor-crushers, I think. Hole-punching can-openers, if you will? 🙂 Also, like plate, etc. I think there may likely be weaker gaps to get a spear, knife or similar point through.
@@brianhall4182 🙂That IS a good question I’ve been asking (& making fun of!) for years with those scenes. Me, I’ve always loved weapons and armour, etc. but I’m just starting to learn about them now. Apparently there are ways those weapons could be effective. … And there’s enough of those little furball Ewok warriors in some scenes to probably just pile on some poor ‘Troopers and crush or suffocate ‘em to death, if nothing else! 😝
Cool. Also praise will test (& I think, reveal) a person’s character. Proverbs 27:21 (NLT) Fire tests the purity of silver and gold, but a person is tested by *being praised. *footnote says: [Or] by flattery
0:57 Ben was all Luke had left after his Aunt and Uncle died. He was also supposed to be his teacher and his guide into a new life. Han and Leia weren't his friends yet, just people on that mission. Obi-Wan's death was the moment Luke truly felt like he lost everything.
Something this video seems to ignore is that Luke had a relationship with Obi Wan already. He didn't just meet him for the first time in A New Hope. And this is something established within A New Hope itself, not some lazy Disney nonsense years after the fact.
Not having limbs is also the reason Vader can't use Force lightning. I read somewhere that it was canon that Palpatine was always dunking on him for it.
The death star point is one that you could use even in real life Literally the difference between freedom fighter and terrorist is usually which side you're on
Well, there IS that pesky thing where said space-ball was the instrument that blew up a planet with a billion people on it...you can only spin things so far until folks know what's up.
@@Gilleban you could easily get around that, claim they were taking up arms against you and you were protecting yourself? It works in real life *cough* Russia *cough*
This was actually explored in the novel "Lost Stars". We see the destruction of the Death Star from the point of view of people serving the Empire. Of course the Rebellion is labeled as terrorists, people who lost friends and loved ones aboard the station want revenge. Yet, on the flip side they also justify the Death Star destroying Alderaan as being a necessary preemptive attack, and a showcase of power to prevent people from going against their authority.
Uh, nah bro. The Death Star is a literal moving WMD that killed BILLIONS of innocent people to scare everyone else into submission and was going to continue slaughtering. There's not two sides to this. That is the definition of terrorism. The people who fought against that are the survivors of a genocide who banded together to fight a fascist regime. The Empire are Space Nazis. The fuck were the Rebels supposed to do, ask them nicely to stop genociding and oppressing the entire galaxy?
Except the Death Star had already destroyed an entire planet, killing millions. This would be like a battleship destroying a city that has next to nothing to do with the fight and then when someone destroys the battleship saying "Well think of the cooks and people cleaning the floors. They were innocent." This is the difference between Pearl Harbor and The World Trade Center. One is a military instillation, the other was not.
In IV we see Luke find his aunt and uncle's remains, cut to a longshot, and then a cut to him returning to Ben. We have no idea how many hours Luke spent mourning their deaths. How long it took to bury them. Anyone would be in shock. That Luke can function at all, shows enormous resilience. He gets one short lesson learning about the Force, gets grabbed by the Empire, rescues a princess, sees his last link to Tatooine cut down, a space battle, joins the rebels, hears his dead friend, and destroys the Death Star. All in what? 24 - 48 hours tops? He can have a breakdown later -- and probably did.
I don't think it was that short of a time, I think the Hyperdrive trip to the remains of Alderan took about 2 weeks. They spent some time hanging out. Han did not see them just as a fare.
Another one: A major mystery in AotC was: who erased the location of Kamino from the Jedi database? This question gets addressed in other media, but one would expect it to get answered in RotS, and it's not -- it's just dropped. And here's another: Why does Padme assume, in AotC, that Dooku was behind the assassination attempt? Dooku is the leader of the Separatists; Padme was coming to Coruscant to vote against the creation of an army to fight against the Separatists. One would expect Dooku to wish her cause success. Of course Dooku and Palpatine are secretly working together, but she doesn't know that.
i think that in Aotc it is mentioned that master sypha diaz erased Kamino from the jedi database before mysteriously dying , And Dooku was sending assasination attempts on Padme because he wanted the galactic federation to join the seperatists and they wanted padme dead since TPM , on top of that remember dooku and palpatines plan is to start a war , so obviously padme stands in their way in that regard.
There are slight flaws in the points of this video: 1. Vader's loss of power by more than half was confirmed by Lucas, but the main cause is not just the dismemberment, but the fourth degree burns that he suffered right after that. Those killed off a lot more body cells than the dismemberment of limbs. 2. The entire history of the death star was a failure for the empire, the only major target it attacked, Alderaan, was seen by most as unnecessary cruelty and terrorism thus boosting the support for the alliance. After that deed, the destruction of the death star was largely seen as justified and this military success gave the rebels a moral boost, not the empire.
Ezra Bridger is probably my favorite Jedi cause he often goes to the dark side and wrestles his emotions and becomes arguably as spiritually wise as Yoda because of it.
"Jedi are rare" yeah they are like 1 to 2 dozen thousand in a galaxy of literally quadrillions. Most people only knew about the jedi due to their larger role in galactic politics otherwise the only time you would ever seen a jedi would have been on video/holo net or whatever the internet is called
Lucas doesn't help the tone of the film and the sense of loss on Genosis, when he has Threepio's head spouting bad puns while a large percentage of the cream of the Jedi are being slaughtered around him. "What a drag!"
This! Is exactly what I mentioned recently, it's one of those unfortunate times that shows Lucas's lack of understanding with some things and where his wife probably tempered that kind of thing a bit, as well as some character work but she wasn't with him on the prequels so
Mace states he will take all the jedi they have left, but i think he is meaning all the jedi they have left in the temple. Most jedi were out on missions throughout the galaxy. I dont believe that was the majority of jedi in the battle on Geonosis
After luke finds his "parents" dead he returns to obi wan, it's clearly a significant time later and he has a new firm goal. He's latched onto obi and litterly says he's going to follow him to the exclusion of everything else. He's clinging to him to protect himself from loss. Then obi is killed as well. That's when he's openly onscreen sad, he's lost everyone.
The Dark Side not simply making a person evil can even be hinted at in Return of the Jedi. Not when Vader betrays the Emperor, but when he and Luke are down on Endor. Anakin told his son that it was too late for him. It shows he's not evil, but conflicted, and has been since being taken in by the Jedi all those years ago. Asaj Ventress is another great example. She wields the Dark Side, but she is the master of who she is, not the Force
I think your missing the point. People arent ever totally evil....with some exceptions. The dark side isn't either though. We know that the force guides people. Really the dark and light are creations of those who can use the force. Its all one thing, but the light side is what guides people to be selfless is other more passive choices while the dark side is what guides you to be more aggressive and selfish. So if you are looking to take over a planet the dark side can guide you to success. If you are trying to protect a planet from destruction the light side will probably guide you better. Its why balance is what is truly needed. I know its legends now, but originally the Jedi used both light and dark finding a balance between themselves and the only evil was losing that balance (either way)
Great video! Just to add my 2 credits: Going on what Yoda tells in ESB, the dark side is related to a lack of patience and restraint, solving problems rashly and violently, regardless of the consequences. That's why Yoda is concerned about Luke leaving Dagobah so quickly to help his friends - it's the dark side's influence on Luke. A dark side force user would never accept balance or compromise, no matter the cost. And they could never accept to live in a world other than one they have control over. In contrast, the light side aims at a non-violent, deliberate approach which recognizes the potential effects of an action on others. A light side force user would aim for balance and sustainability, progressive evolution rather than violent change. Even if it means that not everything in the galaxy is as they would like it to be - hence the light side can embrace the existence of the dark side, but not the other way around. And as for midichlorians (correct me if I'm wrong), but I understand they are not the source of the force, but a side-effect of the force, more of an indicator of the power of a force user. So more MCs don't make you a stronger force user, but being a stronger force user results in having more MCs. So, technically losing a limb, would not matter. And finally, YES, I want to see both the new SW series - the show about a Death Star janitor's dad using his very particular set skills to go after the terrorists who murdered his son, and the show about spec-ops Ewoks waging a remorseless guerrilla war against the Empire in the unforgiving jungles of Endor. 😁
Luke found his aunt and uncle dead, he actually saw Obi-won die. That's the difference. He found them dead and he was to late to do anything, so he moved on. With Ben, he actually had to witness it, seeing death and coming upon it are very different scenario.
In pre-Disney canon, Luke actually acquired Sith skills without ever going completely evil. It was only after exploring both sides of the Force that he started his Jedi school. It was exactly because he was fully aware of the power of the Dark side that he was able to recognize Ben Solo's Dark nature. I believe that was what was supposed to happen with Anakin Skywalker. This is my opinion only because I haven't read it anywhere. His natural abilities and his high "Midi-chlorian count" were supposed to allow him to practice skills from both the Light and Dark sides without turning completely evil. That's what was meant by "bringing balance to the Force." Until he came along, no one was strong enough to wield Light and Dark Force abilities simultaneously. Unfortunately, his personality was too weak. Losing Padme and trusting Palpatine thrust him fully onto the Dark side. That's also why Luke was able to sense the Good in him even after his transformation into Darth Vader. Again, that's just how I see it.
The EU was never canon. It was never said in any way that it was, and George Lucas directly stated otherwise in 1994 and at least twice after that before Disney bought the brand. He referred to it as "an alternate timeline, like Star Trek does" and said it was NOT canon to the movies. All Disney did was follow a decision made by Lucas a long time before they entered the picture. He sold the licensing to authors so he could make the money to make the Special Edition, which led to the prequel trilogy. That's it - he used to for money.
@@jerryvr man, grow a brain before answering and disappointing your ancestors. Disney did not "kill the canon", which I already said. This has nothing to do with anything other than that, so political opinions are irrelevant to this conversation.
The often callous treatment of clearly sentient machines in Star Wars often came across as quite dark at times for me. Especially in the Clone Wars with the Battle Droids. Where their 'deaths' are constantly played for laughs.
I remember this one time a couple battledroids encountered Jedi and, realizing they're screwed, lowered their blasters and accepted their fate, where the Jedi hacked them to bits.
About #7: I'm guessing this isn't exactly the first time the Ewoks have had to defend themselves and their home. That's as good an explanation as any. So what if Count Dooku remains calm? That doesn't mean that he isn't evil. He did horrible things. *That* is what counts. His lack of emotion doesn't erase the evil things he did.
A tidbit that I grew up with having read Splinter Of The Minds Eye as a child was that because of the clone wars it is verboten to ever arm droids (also the "we don't serve there kind" line in ANH is probably a reflection of the lingering distrust for droids after the clone wars).
The dismemberment thing is dumb, if the volume of midichlorians is dependent on the amount of blood in the body how do itty-bitty guys like Yoda and Grogu have such power?
The other thing about Exegol was that it was supposedly a super-secret location where the heroes needed a specialized Sith wayfinder to even get there. But on the other hand there were hundreds of thousand people as personnel on the Star Destroyers, which would have been pretty hard to keep quiet.
As others have mentioned, Mace's line about how many Jedi they had left simply referred to how many were available at home base at the time. There were around 10,000 active members of the Jedi Order at that time, and most of them were on missions away from the Coruscant Temple for long periods of time or were stationed at different bases and outposts throughout the galaxy, so aside from the younglings and Padawans I doubt there were more than a few hundred hanging around at home at any given point. And not all of them fought in the war, either, for many reasons. While losing 200 Jedi in a single battle may seem huge to us, it's arguably fairly small compared to their overall numbers.
Here’s some better details that aren’t explained well in the movies: 1. Who the hell was Syfo-Dias and why was he making a clone army for the republic 2. Whats going on with midichlorians 3. The Emperor’s plan in RotJ is just stupid 4. What was Finn saying to Rey before they fell in the sand? 5. All of the plot points in The Rise of Skywalker 6. Why does Ben and Rey have a connection 7. Why does Luke attempt to kill Ben instead of doing literally anything else 8. How did Luke become a Jedi Knight in between Empire and Jedi 9. What’s the point of Snoke 10. What is the Resistance if the government is the New Republic like what are they resisting if the First Order is just imperial remnants returning? 11. Why is Leia no longer a Jedi? I know some of these have been answered in other media but why wouldn’t you just answer them in the movies like it wouldn’t be that hard
To answer 10: The New Republic does not control the whole galaxy. They control one part of the galaxy. The First Order is more than just Imperial Remnants returning. They have taken control of another part of the galaxy. The Resistance are the people in the First Order part of the galaxy who are fighting against the First Order. Think of the First Order like the Nazis who took over France in WWII. The Resistance is like the French Resistance, fighting back against the Nazis who took over their country. In this analogy, the New Republic would be The United States, who may have sent some aid to the Resistance, but stayed out of the war for far too long. Luckily, the Germans did not have Starkiller Base to wipe out the US before we joined the war (though they were working on the atomic bomb).
Another item, similar to Luke only being temporarily devastated by his foster parents’ murder, is Leia not being affected much my her foster parents being murdered, along with their home planet.
Following up on the Ewoks being skilled fighters...They didn't fight just any Imperial force...They fought AND defeated the Legendary 501st Legion (aka VADER'S FIST). Remember, even then, there were still CLONE TROOPERS from the OG 501st in there AND in THAT battle. This is no small feat to wipe out a Legendary force like this.
Clerks explains the issue with the innocent people on the death star. A character mentions that contractors can decide not to take a job if they don't feel comfortable with the people they are doing the job for and that when you accept a job, you are hitching your cart to them. As they say, if you take a job for the mafia, you can't get upset if you are involved when another group attacks the employer and you by extension
I heard that in the novels, everything happens in a haze for luke, and only after the destruction of the death star he stop and think about his losses, then he griefs
I find that explanation for Luke totally believable. I’ve experienced a similar kind of thing myself when my mom died and in other instances of things that, to me, were very traumatic and injuring.
I think the Empire blowing up Alderaan was way more of a hit to their support than the lives lost when the Death Star blew up. Were there individuals who probably hated the rebels because they lost a loved one? Probably. But I'm sure there were also Imperials who defected (Legends had an Alderaanian Imperial talking to his family via holo when it was destroyed. He sure defected fast.) and the loss of life of a peaceful planet with millions(?) of innocent lives on it outweighs the destruction of a military target, even one with civilians onboard.
this sounds similar to what japan did to pearl harbor, they tried attacking innocent civilians on an island, and what they get in return? a couple atomic bombs exploding right in their homeland.
Nobody ever talks about how in the original trilogy C-3PO and R2-D2 could talk to the millennium falcon, death star, and other ships. Wished this was expressed on more in the prequels and sequels,
Weren't most of these questions answered via comics and novels that are either currently canon as well as the non canon stories? I really feel like they were. I'm honestly asking. Part of the explaination of how Mad got Luke's lightsaber is someone in a cloak found it in cloud city. But so the story goes; Lando Calrissian approaches Luke. He offers to help Luke find the lightsaber if he'll come with him back to Cloud City. While his intentions aren't nearly as altruistic as they appear, Lando claims to know where the lightsaber is. This prompts Luke with a vision, seeing his hand and lightsaber falling through the chasm on Cloud City. However, the lightsaber is caught. A voice calls out to Luke, and a hooded figure tells Luke to follow his destiny while clutching the lightsaber.
I really like the idea that Ewoks where taking lone, or pairs, of scouting Stormtroopers for months in advanced of the Rebel attack. Also the idea that the natural predator of the Ewok in their environment is actually the size of an Emperial walking tank, so they've had experience needing to fight in groups to take out larger creatures (and eat them)
When you say Clone Wars cartoon, never forget that there were two of them. This first animated Clone Wars series was amazing, it was made the guy behind Samurai Jack
Lucas never said that Anakin was less powerful because he lost midichlorians. As I understand it, it’s the concentration of midichlorians in one’s cells that relates to their power. Losing body parts wouldn’t affect that. I think that Anakin/Vader being weakened by his injuries is mostly psychological.
It has be come a bit of a meme that Luke Skywalker blowing up the Death Star killed a lot of innocent people but it isn't the case. For context in Revenge of the Sith Palpatine reorganizes the Government into a Galactic Empire and starts building the Death Star. Many years later when the Death Star is in its final stages of completion during the events of Rogue One it is discovered that the Galactic Imperial Senate is unaware of the existence of the Death Star, indicating that for the last few decades the Death Star was built completely in secret from the public, with Tarkin issuing propaganda that the destruction of the Holy City of Jedha was "a mining accident". Then we get to A New Hope where the admirals and moffs are discussing how the Rebellion is getting too big and gaining support in the Senate, only for Tarkin to interrupt and advise them all that the Imperial Senate has been dissolved and that the new government policy is to rule by fear with the Death Star being the biggest and ultimate symbol of it. In order to announce the existence of this weapon to the world they looked for a target that would make a good demonstration, destroying Alderaan (big supporter of the Rebellion and a core world). This use of the Death Star was the first time it was acknowledged to the public that such a thing exists. Its too late! The Empire has complete control and none can oppose them. If anybody is able to get a "job" on the Death Star, its not a guy from the slums on Anoat who does it to keep the money coming in. Literally every single person onboard the Death Star will have been vetted by the Imperial Security Bureau (ISB), had psychological evaluations done on them to ensure their loyalty and absolutely without a doubt have been enrolled members of the military. The people serving in the mess halls on the Death Star aren't private contractors working for a catering company with an Empire deal, they are military staff, who've gone through the complete recruitment process, passed the psych tests for loyalty, gotten security clearances and served with a strong enough distinction that they were promoted to the biggest ship/station in the entire Empire under top secret protection. NOW, if we want to talk about Legacy Star Wars canon that is no longer relevant, we could bring to the attention that a lot of Stormtroopers were actually conscripted soldiers from conquered worlds who are filled with propaganda every day and may be victims from a certain point of view, but as they're clones in the new canon this has become a less of a concern. TL;DR everyone aboard the Death Star was a member of the Imperial Military, not innocent civilians.
What I don't get about Palpatine's fleet is there is not just one but two groups hiding in the BF unknown regions who each managed to smuggle enough material to assemble a galaxy conquering fleet without the New Republic noticing. The logistics of just one would be staggering and should have been impossible to hide, but the First Order was doing it too at the same time.
To be fair, hiding it from The New Republic would have been easy. The New Republic was weak, and The First Order was operating in a region of space not under TNR's control, or anyone's control (The Unknown Regions, which was also dangerous to travel into for people not familiar with it). Financing it, as the video points out, is an issue.
at 3:54, why is there 1 guy with his hands up, but he's wearing partial scout trooper armor? (was there a deleted scene or something where a rebel steals a speeder bike?)
It's never mentioned that the Jedi are idiots for thinking that someone "bringing balance to the Force" ISN'T going to end with a LOT of them being killed since they were in power and they were out of balance with the Sith (and other random groups of Force users).
the darkside is the state of imbalance, whereas the jedi let the will of the force dictate unlike sith, so balance doesn't mean equal users of light and dark
@@UltimatelyAllah I disagree. That's just the victor writing the history. The Force is neutral, neither good nor bad, not truly light or dark. 10,000 Jedi and 2 Sith is absolutely an imbalance. To claim otherwise is to be just as arrogant as the Jedi were in thinking they could/should lead an army.
@@Bad_Wolf_Media well you're wrong. George has already said that following the will of the force is balance and the darkside is bending the force to your will which is out of balance.
Luke was probably still really in shock about everything that transpired. Everything was moving too fast for him to properly mourn them. It all probably came out when Obi Wan died.
One thing people don't mention is that, by both the Emporer and Vader enticing Luke, it would mean the death of the other one. In the prequels, it mentions that there can only be two Sith, no more, no less. Vader suggests to Luke in ESB to kill the Emporer and that they can run the universe, as father and son. Also, when Vader throws Palpatine into the abyss, it is because the Emporer wants Luke to turn to the Dark Side, which would mean that Vader would have to die. So Vader destroys the Emporer to protect himself and Luke, but maybe also as revenge for Palpatine tricking him into killing Padme. Also, Vader was the only one who could kill Palpatine. If Luke tried, he would have turned to the Dark Side instead. Only Vader could kill him because he had already turned, and he was the chosen one, who could bring balance. That is why Palpatine sought to corrupt Anakin, so that he would side with him, and his only threat is our of the way.
The Stormtroopers on Endor couldn't have been that well trained. Otherwise, they'd know better than to follow a guerrilla army into their own terrain... especially if you're defending an installation. Though there's always arrogance... teddy bears with spears wouldn't look terribly intimidating to a futuristic army.
Wasn’t the temporary initial success of the Ewoks and Rebels also a feint, a fake-out, planned and orchestrated by the Emperor (as Luke pokes at! 😉) in his overconfidence and arrogance?
@@1Holbytla Could be. But there didn't appear to be any indication that the Emperor was guiding the ground fighting... or was even aware of events on the ground.
The Ewoks bigger weapons, hill side log traps, swinging logs etc that take out the AT-STs are actually anti Gorax (caravan of courage) defenses, usually set up to defend a village. I always wondered how they got that stuff set up so quick. Already there, that's why they lure them into their traps of death.
given the ratio of jedi to the entire population of the star wars galaxy, the equivalent would be .00078 jedi for the entire current population of earth. it's not that big of a surprise that han thinks they weren't real
@@Cyberleader672 i mean a lot of people would know of them for sure, but everyone? would random kids living in a small rural town mostly disconnected from the outside world know? how about a worker in some mine in africa? and that doesn't even take into account believing in them. would someone who grew up in a factory, surrounded by cheats, liars, and gamblers, really believe there was this one person who could lift things with their mind, who wasn't bullshitting like all the other fakes and charlatans we've seen irl. it isn't a big stretch to say a cynical smuggler who grew up in such terrible conditions wouldn't believe in this random super-powered do-gooder, especially when the entire government is saying that they were a liar who was trying to fool the whole planet (which the empire was, by the time han got off corellia).
@@StealthPants1 To answer your first question yes anyone with basic communication to the outside world would know especially since we would have the capacity of proving it. The political affect alone of such a being existing would be enough to show it wasn't fake. As for the second I could believe that if Han was born during the Empire's rain but he wasn't he spent 13 years of his life in the Republic. The Jedi were ambassadors for the Republic. They would have visited every planet that was part of it and any other power in the galaxy that weren't. Every government would know about them
Exegol is in a place that’s nearly impossibly to get to from the known populated galaxy, and a place nobody tries to go because most people who come back - if they come back at all - are mutilated, insane, both, or like....inside out. It’s a place everyone in their right mind avoids. Plenty of secrecy to build a fleet in over the course of decades.
“It’s a total head scratcher for those who only watched the films” and also didn’t think about how long it’s been and how long he had to do it, and the massive work force he had there or where it was, and how hard it was to reach safely and ALSO. Did you expect Poe to say everything despite only just learning Palps was back like five minutes ago? Rise of Skywalker has a bunch of problems, but these ain’t it. Turn on your damn brains and actually think about what you’re seeing and hearing.
About Luke's grief, maybe he was in shock when he saw his uncle and aunt, but I think maybe his reaction to the death of Obi-Wan has more to do with the feeling that he lost the man who knew his father and who could teach him to be a jedi like him. So, in a way, maybe he felt like he lost his father by loosing the only person left who knew him...
You wanna know how Palps built that massive fleet? Ewok labour. Yes, not only are they the most skilled fighters in the galaxy, they're also master craftsmen!
7:00 There are many dark side and light side users who are not Sith or Jedi. Kylo Ren is a Knight of Ren, not a Sith. The Inquisitors are founded by the Sith, but none of them are actually Sith. The Witches of Dathomir, Darth Maul’s home world, used The Dark Side as magic, and the Zeffo used the Light Side, but called it “Life Wind.” The Fallanasi were the group who invented the Force Projection technique Luke Skywalker used to project himself for his battle against Kylo Ren.
I'm glad that you mentioned that Luke barely new Obi-Wan. Their physical relationship lasted a few days at best? And later on in A New Hope, he does the same thing with R2D2...he says "not on your life. this droid and I have been through a lot." Huh? I mean, a lot happened in a week but again, you barely know the droid.
Whereas there were over ten thousand Jedi in total, the galaxy had, if I remember correctly, around 4 quadrillion sentient, spacefaring life forms in the same galaxy. That 10k sounds large at first, but not after finding out how many "people" there are.
The reason why , after lukes Aunt and Uncle were killed by Storm Troopers and it's never mentioned again is............. THE CAST AND CREW AND LUCAS HIMSELF WERE SO SHAKEN BY THE EVENT THAT THEY COULDN'T BEAR TO EVEN MENTION IT AGAIN. ...........EVERYONE WAS AFFECTED AND TRAUMATIZED BY THE EVENT i also have to say that even seeing this as a child when it first came out i never spoke of it either as the pain was too much to bear and as a child i was traumatized by the event
The thing with his aunt and uncle's death is he never witnessed it just the aftermath and what was a charred unrecognisable corpse, obi wan however he saw him die infront of his eyes, and as a comment luke makes when he hears leia hologram where she mentions obi wan kenobi he wonders if he's a relation to old ben kenobi meaning that luke at least knew obi wan at least in a way that one may know the old guy living down the street from them
Besides the massive amounts of innocent deaths that the Rebels cause (which is something that WAS touched upon in the "Rebels" animated series) one problem I had was that they would show someone talking to a hologram in a communicator on their wrist, then go over to the person they are talking to and instead of seeing only the person's head they see the entire person. This might be explainable, but seeing them standing there with their arms at their sides instead of one raised to speak into the communicator is just ridiculously wrong!
@@yoda908 *Come on master. Pretty sure keeping your fingers away from the button while dueling has to be the first thing you learn to do when using a light saber. Plus you can clearly see his hand is no where near the switch*
The Empire Strikes Back. A scene not often talked about or at least I have not read about it, Luke hit Vadar on the shoulder with his lightsaber. Vadar does make a sound like it hurt however nothing bad happened to Vadar. Just before this, Luke can be seen cutting through metal Vadar force throw at him. This is he same lightsaber that Anikin used which cut through tanks, metal doors, and many other things. But against Vadar, it just bounced right off.
Im sure its in the Canon somewhere the material of Vader's suit is made of, and almost certainly it is a lighter resistant material, there's a few out there
like with the light and dark sides, good and bad are merely in illusion, it's an reality Motivation and it is often mix any who has either good or bad intentions to themselves and/or to others
Luke knew Owen and Beru weren't his real parents. And Owen was very gruff with him. We can assume that that was pretty much their relationship given how Beru steps into Luke's argument with his uncle on Lukes behalf like she's done it many times before. Obi-Wan was his father's best friend and a Jedi like his father. Obi-Wan knew everything about the things Luke has been dreaming about all his life and Obi-Wan was the pathway to everything he wanted to be -- and helped and encouraged him to get there. Yes, Luke was saddened by the brutality that befell his aunt and uncle, but I don't think he felt much of a loss of family or connection... until the greatest link to his father, his past and his future was murdered by Darth Vader.
Droids are much better treated in the Rogue and Wraith Squadron Novels in the good old EU (even with it's faults... Still better). The Astromechs aren't tools. They're a pilots companion, even a friend. As someone who's read Isard's Revenge many times ( and can point every single mistake in it) I love the part where an Imperial officer acknowledges that even though he doesn't understand the bond the X-Wing pilots have to their Astromechs, he respects it.
The dark side one is Mace Windu. His fighting style draws on the dark side. He literally created it to harness the dark side while keeping himself in check
I think Anakin, by killing Mace, actually saved him. Mace wanted to kill Palpatine. That would have turned him to the Dark Side. Anakin, by killing Mace, stopped him turning.
4:25 Like the video! I would say though, it's hard to call anyone on the Death Star innocent, really. Not in the same way as a natural planet like Alderaan. Don't let its friendly round shape confuse the fact that it was basically a massive warship, so its destruction was no more evil than taking down a very large Star Destroyer. Sure, not everyone on it was manning the guns, but all were military personnel in service of its purpose, to blow up planets. I do however agree that its destruction would have been seen by Imperials as a massive rallying cry for their lost comrades.
Yep. All were military personnel technically complicit in a genocide. On the other hand Luke is clearly an enemy combatant. The Rebels have a clear organizational structure, political and military leadership, chain of command, uniforms with insignias. Hell their vehicles are also clearly marked with their insignias and could never be mistaken for civilian vehicles. There is absolutely nothing fishy about the Battle of Yavin. It is literally a battle between two armies.
@@barkasz6066 Exactly, that's a good explanation. It would be a different matter if the Rebellion had, say, bombed civilians in Coruscant City. That could be considered a war crime. But by all that we are shown, the Rebels kept their operations to strictly Imperial military targets.
In reference to #4, you should have mentioned Mace Windu. He taps into the dark side when he needs to, and uses a lightsaber style that is almost exclusively sith. Also why his saber is purple.
Someone mentioned a while back that the last thing Obi-wan sees before he is struck down is Luke & Leia together again for the first time in 19 years
It’s weird to think about it cause it’s obvious he’s looking at them, but you would never think that’s exactly what he was thinking
I always thought he was looking at luke and smiling at him letting him know everything is gonna be ok
I like how most of these are conceptually interesting plot points that could be fleshed out from small points from the films, into larger stories, but anything from the sequels is just shite storytelling. 😂
Well the first one is bad character development and the last one was bad writing too
"All the Jedi we have left" doesn't mean every last Jedi, he means those that are at the Temple. Many Jedi, especially those in the guardian class, would have been out in the universe like Qui Gon and Obi in episode 1.
Came here to say the same thing. Sidious had been orchestrating unrest across the galaxy via the Separatists and as a result many Jedi had been deployed as negotiators and to keep the peace.
All the Jedi, from a certain point of view. It's poetry.
Guardian class? No such class was ever named in any movie or show.
@@baron7755 Jedi with blue sabers are guardians, Jedi with green sabers are called Consulars. Guardians focus on action, Consulars focus more on learning about the force and maintaining a strong relationship with it. It's not mentioned in the moves, like many things, but that's how they were organized during that era.
Edit: The saber colors are not a hard rule (they are not forced to use the color of their school) but most did
@@Muataran Nobody should have to know that, which you point out, so I'm not coming down on you. What about purple? What about red? I thought it was just the color/rarity of the kiber crystal...as in, my understanding didn't need to go any deeper. Just like midichlorians. Didn't need to scientifically explain the force Jorge.
Here's one:
Luke's original intention was to join the Empire.
The 'academy' that he mentions wanting to run off to in A New Hope, that Biggs had already run off to, was the IMPERIAL academy. The rebellion had no academy - they were rebels, outlaws. They had no organized government and certainly if they had anything resembling an academy that people actually knew about to the extent that some hillbilly farm boy knew how to contact and join it, it would have been a sitting target for the Empire. Remember that the location of the Rebel's military base was unknown to both the Empire and the population at large at this time.
In deleted footage, Biggs tells Luke his plan is to join the academy and then hop over to the rebellion with some friends at the first opportunity. He was obviously successful, and this was apparently Luke's plan as well...
It seems to me that Luke’s intention for going to the imperial academy was just so that he would have a valid way to get off Tatooine
@@MegaUMK3 Yes. He was planning on joining the Empire and just doing the minimum service time just because it was his only way off Tatooine.
I would have chosen Tattooine and its relative freedom (being so remote from the Empire...well, then you have the Hutts...) over purposefully joining the military service of an evil empire.
@@ebinrock Like his father, Luke hates sand.
I mean Han was an Imperial soldier before he went “straight”(if smuggling is “straight”). Solely to get off Corellia.
When Mace Windu said he would take "all the Jedi we have left" to Geonosis, he meant at the temple. With all the unrest around the galaxy due to the separatists, many of the Jedi would have already been out in the galaxy like Qui Gon and Obi Wan had been in Episode 1.
Yes.. the jedi we have left who ARE NOT OTHERWISE ENGAGED IN SOMETHING
If you tease that out, that actually gives a good head-canon explanation for why the Jedi fared so poorly in that battle. If all of the best were out in the galaxy on other assignments, all you had left at the temple were those who couldn’t (too young, too old, not competent enough, etc.) handle that kind of detached duty.
With Luke not seemingly grieving his aunt and uncle, I think he took advantage of the opportunity to throw himself into the mission of getting the Death Star plans to the Rebels, and then helping destroy it. As for grieving Obi-Wan more, that was not the case by any means; he mourns for a few mere minutes before needing to get into a gun fight with those TIE fighters. His life and death situation through the rest of the movie allowed him to compartmentalize his grief.
And also, I’m pretty sure we can accept the explanation of Luke grieving off-screen in our heads. Like do we need to hear him mop about for several minutes on his way back to Obi-Wan, or after the battle with TIE fighters?
But they were basically his parents. They raised him for 19 years and thats how he reacts to their death. 99% of the time when parent figures die or get murdered the normal human reaction is to be heartbroken unless they treated Luke like crap which didn't seem like was the case. I love A New Hope but that scene always bothered me. Also the scene where Leia sees her planet destroyed was a sucky reaction too. I know this is legends but I also found it strange that Luke would name his son after Kenobi and not Owen. Owen raised Luke for 19 years but instead he names his son after the man who he knew for about a week. I hope Owen and Buru get the justice they deserve in the Kenobi TV series.
@@CometStar100 I think you'd find in real life that not everyone blows up in tears when loved ones die. Some people will throw themselves into whatever distractions they can to deal with loss. Some put up a front, telling themselves that toughing it out is the right way to go.
As for Obi-Wan, we don't really know their relationship as a whole. But I think it's safe to say they hadn't just met for the first time when he saved Luke from the Sand People. "Ben, boy am I glad to see you," suggests they've had interactions before. Maybe the Obi-Wan series will show this.
@@OneGaurdian Well yeah not everyone but the majority would especially a 19 year old plus we have seen Luke be more emotional in other circumstances. I am not sure why that was Lukes reaction in that scene in real life but my guess is it was the editing and maybe they did not have a shot of him grieving for whatever reason. His parents were murdered and it's kinda brushed off. It's not a satisfying response and yes not every person reacts death the same but in movies the majority of time when parents are murdered there is a bit more of a reaction. Even if he knew Ben before A New Hope it didn't seem like they were that close to the point where he would name his son after him. Owen was essentially Lukes father for 19 years. Unless he really treated Luke like crap but it seemed like he cared for Luke. I guess we will find out what their relationship was like in the Kenobi series.
Seems to me Luke may have compartmentalized the deaths of Owen and Beru, and his reaction to Obi-Wan's death at the hands of Vader was expressing some of this repressed grief. The kid has been through a lot in a short amount of time, after 19 years of a basically boring life on a moisture farm.
I've always wanted to see a star wars show or movie that followed a dark side user that wasn't evil but more of an anti-hero who travels the galaxy killing the evil and corrupt, kinda like a force-wielding punisher. the force unleashed gave us a glimpse at a heroic dark side user with starkiller.
What if it's some random dude who collects sith lightsabers and everyone thinks is a Sith, but just comically was around for Sith deaths?
You’re kind of describing the Ronin in “The Duel” Visions episode.
@@bradconrad1961 sort of. But he was some type of person able to use the force. Idk if he was a Sith who turned against their ideals, or if he just used their lightsabers.
@@bjorndanielsen4680 In that Visions Reality the Sith are Ronin while the Jedi are Samurai loyal to their Shogun. They're neither good nor evil but both. Also that Ronin is the Original Sith hunting down his former disciples for being dishonorable.
@@flamesofchaos13 where did you get that information?
I would like to point out that being calm doesn't make one "not evil." Count Dooku did lot of bad things and not letting his emotions rule his judgement doesn't forgive that. And as far as Darth Vectivus, remember that of what we know comes from a person came from Lady Lumiya, a character who had every reason to lie to Jacen Solo to manipulate him. Plus, one person resisting the negative aspects of the Dark Side doesn't make it safe
He didn't say it was safe, just that it wasn't inherently evil. It obviously leaves you much more susceptible to temptation as they(the sith, the most notable practicioners of dark side force) do not have the rigid restrictions the Jedi have about certain knowledge. But temptation is within the person, not the force. So it dosen't make the aspect of the force evil. Just it's lack of restriction makes it incredibly attractive to evil beings. There's a reason they always talk about balance, instead of outright eradicating the dark side of the force. Mace Windu for example. Harnesses the dark side of the force with Balance to the light, but is not an evil being nor is that darkness corrupting him. And also as we've seen the Jedi's outright fear of the dark side of the force is part of the reason such a gap is stricken between the 2 sides.
🙂 Wow. Just want to say I appreciate great points and thoughts from both of you. Cheers.
Exactly. If never getting angry was all it took to make a person morally righteous, then scores of serial killers would be very righteous indeed.
That said, the Dark Side seems to be geared toward destruction, not evil. And sometimes destruction is the most moral option available (executing an unrepentant murderer who has already escaped from prison several times, for example). Luke used a Force choke on the Gamorrean guards in Jabba the Hutt's palace, but his intent was merely to incapacitate them, not to kill them or even to frighten them. So I wish the STAR WARS characters wouldn't conflate "fear," "anger," "hate," and "aggression" when discussing the Dark Side; only one of those is inherently evil, and "aggression" is essentially neutral. Sometimes you've just got to play a little rough.
@@braddorcas9363 Balance refers to eradicating the Sith, not giving an equal measure to light and dark. Dark is not just some other method of using the force, it is distorting the force for selfish, destructive intent. You cannot separate the dark side as just another aspect of the force from the danger that it represents. Balance is achieved when the dark side no longer clouds the force with its malicious will. George Lucas has said as much, that destroying the Sith is what brings balance.
@@SeasideDetective2 In Plinkett’s (Red Letter Media) review of the prequels he rightly explains that very thing. Emotions are complex things and don’t follow a certain path. Anger doesn’t always lead to hate or fear. Suffering can lead to hate and anger they’re too interchangeable to define.
The one thing about Star Wars that people seem to never remember, is that it's a Space Opera. Most Space Operas are all about Good and Evil. That is what was Lucas was going for in 4,5,and 6. It was the comics, novels, and the Disney+ shows where more darker takes started to show up. 1,2,and 3 was more darker because it was Anakin's fall.
I think older-timey (50’s?60’s?) episodic movie serials like (Flash Gordon?)were an influence on the original Star Wars films as well. Often very clear good & evil lines and characters. I think they may have started similar to how what I’ve seen of the Clone Wars TV series were presented to us. I mean the intro to each show, not really the stories. Also, samurai films were an influence as well, I believe? By Kurosawa?
@@1Holbytla along with LoTR similarities
Re. how long Luke knew Obi-Wan: as a kid in the '70s, I (along with most of my peers) tended to assume Luke's meeting with Kenobi after the Sand People incident was his first... but as an adult, I find myself going back to that line "Ben Kenobi! Boy, am I glad to see YOU." I think it indicates that Luke has known *Ben* his whole life, and the impression that he and Luke had never met is actually a misapprehension of Luke stating that he doesn't know who *Obi-Wan* is. This is simply because Luke doesn't realize that "he's me", as Old Ben so succinctly put it. Luke's familiarity with Old Ben is obvious in their dialogue after the incident with the Tusken Raiders. My stoner buddies and I used to joke that Luke, Biggs, Camie, and Fixer used to buy their space weed (Marcan herb, I guess) off of Old Ben. He was the Anchorhead equivalent of Tommy Chong in "The Colour out of Space". Luke would have known Old Ben for most of his 19 years, to discover only at the very end that the old hermit was far more important than he could ever have imagined.
Like when Red discovers that Leo is a veteran in That 70s Show
Plus, Luke was a teenager. Uncle was the resented figure that would not even let him go smoke some "power converters" with his friends. They probably been fighting for years over "going to the academy."
So Luke runs off with the local guru because he's so happy and well adjusted into the farm life?
"Power converters" ✌😸
A weed farm on Tattoine? I'll be on one of the agricultural planets growing smiles and harvesting heaven. Old father time like I wield a Light Sycle.
Ooooh! i get it now, you think it's one of those youg man - old man relationship ;) shhhh i can keep a secret, especially in the middle of a HOT (oh, so hot) desert
**wink wink**
The "Luke commited an act of terrorism when he destroyed the Death Star" line of thinking is stupid.
First, it wasn't an act of terrorism. The Death Star was a military target which had previously engaged in combat, and Luke attacked it in uniform, identifying himself as a part of a military unit. Terrorists wear civilian clothes while attacking civilians. Luke committed a justifiable act of war.
Second, the Death Star destroyed an entire planet, unprovoked, killing millions of people. Everyone on board is complicit in that act, and therefore is fair game. It's like saying we shouldn't have attacked the Nazis, because some of them didn't fully agree with Hitler. I think most of the galaxy would've joined/sympathized with the Rebellion after Alderaan, and would've thought the Death Star's destruction an act of good.
Agreed. The death toll on Alderann was 2 billion. The planet's population.
Thank you. Finally someone who knows the friggin difference between a terrorist, a combatant, an act of war and a war crime. If anything, the destruction of Alderaan was an act of terror. Unprovoked, unannounced, against civilians. That was nothing short of a crime aganist humanity and a genocide.
The Death Star obliterated three planets *that we know of*: Jedha and (whatever planet the final battle of Rogue One was), then Alderaan.
Pretty sure that’s like Ukrainians taking out the latest Russian tank patrol in their country, stopping them before they killed more.
@@brainlock72 there was a novel on the death star. They tested it on a penal planet. I can't remember the name of it.
You are right, Jeff, and I am inclined to believe that you are not of the same younger generation that made this video.
Here's the thing; the Death Star was a complete secret to most people in the Empire, and likely even until its destruction. Sure, the Empire can spin all the propaganda it wants about the "heinous rebels and their terrorist attacks" but the second someone asks: "Wait, what kind of station did they blow up again?" Uh.....
Not to mention that, even IF people found out about it, it was the station used to destroy Alderaan which actually DID galvanize people to joining the Rebellion...oh, two million people died on your big space-ball? That's nothing compared to a BILLION people on a peaceful planet.
@@Gilleban exactly
@@Gilleban You forget that people only know what you tell them, pro-empire propaganda isn't going to call it a space ball of death that blew up a planet, it would only focus on building sympathy for the imperials killed
@@Gilleban True. And because the Death Star blew up Alderaan, this caused some problems for Palpatine. And he even said that Tarkin is lucky that he died on the Death Star because Palpatine would have punished him severely.
Leia: "How can these Ewok's hold their own against the Imperials?!"
Han: "It's their turf and their ambush. Makes all the difference."
Great exchange from the Radio Drama of RotJ
The better question is "How can rocks and sharp sticks pierce Stormtrooper armor?" Seriously. That stuff can't stop blasters, it can't stop pointy objects, what actual good is it?
@@brianhall4182 the same way that Maces and Hammers were the bane of full plate.
The impact transfers through the armour into the body.
Ewoks are surprisingly strong despite their small stature.
😲I love the radio drama! 😁 The Ewoks are great little warriors but they were out-classed. I seem to recall that their seeming to “hold their own” was only temporary. After a bit, they started getting slaughtered (but Chewie and his little buddy gaining control of an ATST definitely seemed to help, a lot!) because I believe the Empire troops were ordered to let them seem to win for a bit. It was a feint and part of the Emperor’s cruel & convoluted (& overconfident 😉) plan to wipe out the Rebels and hopefully get control over Luke, as well.
Also, the SW writer/s were trying to tell a good story! Gonna have the good guys win in the end, but there’s gonna be some back-and-forth twists first! 🙂
@@EliWintercross Agreed. They’re also armor-crushers, I think. Hole-punching can-openers, if you will? 🙂 Also, like plate, etc. I think there may likely be weaker gaps to get a spear, knife or similar point through.
@@brianhall4182 🙂That IS a good question I’ve been asking (& making fun of!) for years with those scenes.
Me, I’ve always loved weapons and armour, etc. but I’m just starting to learn about them now. Apparently there are ways those weapons could be effective. … And there’s enough of those little furball Ewok warriors in some scenes to probably just pile on some poor ‘Troopers and crush or suffocate ‘em to death, if nothing else! 😝
“Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.” - Abraham Lincoln. This is most Sith for sure.
Cool. Also praise will test (& I think, reveal) a person’s character.
Proverbs 27:21 (NLT) Fire tests the purity of silver and gold, but a person is tested by *being praised. *footnote says: [Or] by flattery
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Ben was all Luke had left after his Aunt and Uncle died. He was also supposed to be his teacher and his guide into a new life. Han and Leia weren't his friends yet, just people on that mission. Obi-Wan's death was the moment Luke truly felt like he lost everything.
Something this video seems to ignore is that Luke had a relationship with Obi Wan already. He didn't just meet him for the first time in A New Hope. And this is something established within A New Hope itself, not some lazy Disney nonsense years after the fact.
Not having limbs is also the reason Vader can't use Force lightning. I read somewhere that it was canon that Palpatine was always dunking on him for it.
Also, I assume if you are half machine, it is not the best idea to f*ck with electricity...
The death star point is one that you could use even in real life
Literally the difference between freedom fighter and terrorist is usually which side you're on
Well, there IS that pesky thing where said space-ball was the instrument that blew up a planet with a billion people on it...you can only spin things so far until folks know what's up.
@@Gilleban you could easily get around that, claim they were taking up arms against you and you were protecting yourself? It works in real life *cough* Russia *cough*
This was actually explored in the novel "Lost Stars". We see the destruction of the Death Star from the point of view of people serving the Empire. Of course the Rebellion is labeled as terrorists, people who lost friends and loved ones aboard the station want revenge. Yet, on the flip side they also justify the Death Star destroying Alderaan as being a necessary preemptive attack, and a showcase of power to prevent people from going against their authority.
Uh, nah bro. The Death Star is a literal moving WMD that killed BILLIONS of innocent people to scare everyone else into submission and was going to continue slaughtering. There's not two sides to this. That is the definition of terrorism. The people who fought against that are the survivors of a genocide who banded together to fight a fascist regime. The Empire are Space Nazis. The fuck were the Rebels supposed to do, ask them nicely to stop genociding and oppressing the entire galaxy?
Except the Death Star had already destroyed an entire planet, killing millions. This would be like a battleship destroying a city that has next to nothing to do with the fight and then when someone destroys the battleship saying "Well think of the cooks and people cleaning the floors. They were innocent."
This is the difference between Pearl Harbor and The World Trade Center. One is a military instillation, the other was not.
In IV we see Luke find his aunt and uncle's remains, cut to a longshot, and then a cut to him returning to Ben. We have no idea how many hours Luke spent mourning their deaths. How long it took to bury them. Anyone would be in shock.
That Luke can function at all, shows enormous resilience. He gets one short lesson learning about the Force, gets grabbed by the Empire, rescues a princess, sees his last link to Tatooine cut down, a space battle, joins the rebels, hears his dead friend, and destroys the Death Star. All in what? 24 - 48 hours tops? He can have a breakdown later -- and probably did.
I don't think it was that short of a time, I think the Hyperdrive trip to the remains of Alderan took about 2 weeks. They spent some time hanging out. Han did not see them just as a fare.
Another one: A major mystery in AotC was: who erased the location of Kamino from the Jedi database? This question gets addressed in other media, but one would expect it to get answered in RotS, and it's not -- it's just dropped.
And here's another: Why does Padme assume, in AotC, that Dooku was behind the assassination attempt? Dooku is the leader of the Separatists; Padme was coming to Coruscant to vote against the creation of an army to fight against the Separatists. One would expect Dooku to wish her cause success. Of course Dooku and Palpatine are secretly working together, but she doesn't know that.
i think that in Aotc it is mentioned that master sypha diaz erased Kamino from the jedi database before mysteriously dying ,
And Dooku was sending assasination attempts on Padme because he wanted the galactic federation to join the seperatists and they wanted padme dead since TPM , on top of that remember dooku and palpatines plan is to start a war , so obviously padme stands in their way in that regard.
There are slight flaws in the points of this video:
1. Vader's loss of power by more than half was confirmed by Lucas, but the main cause is not just the dismemberment, but the fourth degree burns that he suffered right after that. Those killed off a lot more body cells than the dismemberment of limbs.
2. The entire history of the death star was a failure for the empire, the only major target it attacked, Alderaan, was seen by most as unnecessary cruelty and terrorism thus boosting the support for the alliance. After that deed, the destruction of the death star was largely seen as justified and this military success gave the rebels a moral boost, not the empire.
Ezra Bridger is probably my favorite Jedi cause he often goes to the dark side and wrestles his emotions and becomes arguably as spiritually wise as Yoda because of it.
"Jedi are rare" yeah they are like 1 to 2 dozen thousand in a galaxy of literally quadrillions.
Most people only knew about the jedi due to their larger role in galactic politics otherwise the only time you would ever seen a jedi would have been on video/holo net or whatever the internet is called
Lucas doesn't help the tone of the film and the sense of loss on Genosis, when he has Threepio's head spouting bad puns while a large percentage of the cream of the Jedi are being slaughtered around him. "What a drag!"
This! Is exactly what I mentioned recently, it's one of those unfortunate times that shows Lucas's lack of understanding with some things and where his wife probably tempered that kind of thing a bit, as well as some character work but she wasn't with him on the prequels so
I love how he says "the rest of the prequels" when that would only have included one more film.
Mace states he will take all the jedi they have left, but i think he is meaning all the jedi they have left in the temple. Most jedi were out on missions throughout the galaxy. I dont believe that was the majority of jedi in the battle on Geonosis
yeah there were thousands, even tens of thousands
In SW Rebels, it is stated there were around 10,000 jedi in total. Only 215 were fighting on Geonosis, 187 of them fell.
After luke finds his "parents" dead he returns to obi wan, it's clearly a significant time later and he has a new firm goal. He's latched onto obi and litterly says he's going to follow him to the exclusion of everything else. He's clinging to him to protect himself from loss. Then obi is killed as well. That's when he's openly onscreen sad, he's lost everyone.
The Dark Side not simply making a person evil can even be hinted at in Return of the Jedi. Not when Vader betrays the Emperor, but when he and Luke are down on Endor. Anakin told his son that it was too late for him. It shows he's not evil, but conflicted, and has been since being taken in by the Jedi all those years ago. Asaj Ventress is another great example. She wields the Dark Side, but she is the master of who she is, not the Force
I think your missing the point. People arent ever totally evil....with some exceptions. The dark side isn't either though. We know that the force guides people. Really the dark and light are creations of those who can use the force. Its all one thing, but the light side is what guides people to be selfless is other more passive choices while the dark side is what guides you to be more aggressive and selfish. So if you are looking to take over a planet the dark side can guide you to success. If you are trying to protect a planet from destruction the light side will probably guide you better.
Its why balance is what is truly needed. I know its legends now, but originally the Jedi used both light and dark finding a balance between themselves and the only evil was losing that balance (either way)
Great video! Just to add my 2 credits:
Going on what Yoda tells in ESB, the dark side is related to a lack of patience and restraint, solving problems rashly and violently, regardless of the consequences. That's why Yoda is concerned about Luke leaving Dagobah so quickly to help his friends - it's the dark side's influence on Luke. A dark side force user would never accept balance or compromise, no matter the cost. And they could never accept to live in a world other than one they have control over. In contrast, the light side aims at a non-violent, deliberate approach which recognizes the potential effects of an action on others. A light side force user would aim for balance and sustainability, progressive evolution rather than violent change. Even if it means that not everything in the galaxy is as they would like it to be - hence the light side can embrace the existence of the dark side, but not the other way around.
And as for midichlorians (correct me if I'm wrong), but I understand they are not the source of the force, but a side-effect of the force, more of an indicator of the power of a force user. So more MCs don't make you a stronger force user, but being a stronger force user results in having more MCs. So, technically losing a limb, would not matter.
And finally, YES, I want to see both the new SW series - the show about a Death Star janitor's dad using his very particular set skills to go after the terrorists who murdered his son, and the show about spec-ops Ewoks waging a remorseless guerrilla war against the Empire in the unforgiving jungles of Endor. 😁
Luke found his aunt and uncle dead, he actually saw Obi-won die. That's the difference. He found them dead and he was to late to do anything, so he moved on. With Ben, he actually had to witness it, seeing death and coming upon it are very different scenario.
In pre-Disney canon, Luke actually acquired Sith skills without ever going completely evil. It was only after exploring both sides of the Force that he started his Jedi school. It was exactly because he was fully aware of the power of the Dark side that he was able to recognize Ben Solo's Dark nature.
I believe that was what was supposed to happen with Anakin Skywalker. This is my opinion only because I haven't read it anywhere. His natural abilities and his high "Midi-chlorian count" were supposed to allow him to practice skills from both the Light and Dark sides without turning completely evil. That's what was meant by "bringing balance to the Force." Until he came along, no one was strong enough to wield Light and Dark Force abilities simultaneously. Unfortunately, his personality was too weak. Losing Padme and trusting Palpatine thrust him fully onto the Dark side. That's also why Luke was able to sense the Good in him even after his transformation into Darth Vader. Again, that's just how I see it.
The EU was never canon. It was never said in any way that it was, and George Lucas directly stated otherwise in 1994 and at least twice after that before Disney bought the brand. He referred to it as "an alternate timeline, like Star Trek does" and said it was NOT canon to the movies.
All Disney did was follow a decision made by Lucas a long time before they entered the picture.
He sold the licensing to authors so he could make the money to make the Special Edition, which led to the prequel trilogy. That's it - he used to for money.
@@BigJeremyBeyer All Disney did was kill the canon and made it all about their political beliefs..
@@jerryvr man, grow a brain before answering and disappointing your ancestors.
Disney did not "kill the canon", which I already said.
This has nothing to do with anything other than that, so political opinions are irrelevant to this conversation.
Count Dooku is literally the definition of swagger and class.
The often callous treatment of clearly sentient machines in Star Wars often came across as quite dark at times for me.
Especially in the Clone Wars with the Battle Droids. Where their 'deaths' are constantly played for laughs.
Roger Roger!
I remember this one time a couple battledroids encountered Jedi and, realizing they're screwed, lowered their blasters and accepted their fate, where the Jedi hacked them to bits.
About #7: I'm guessing this isn't exactly the first time the Ewoks have had to defend themselves and their home. That's as good an explanation as any.
So what if Count Dooku remains calm? That doesn't mean that he isn't evil. He did horrible things. *That* is what counts. His lack of emotion doesn't erase the evil things he did.
A tidbit that I grew up with having read Splinter Of The Minds Eye as a child was that because of the clone wars it is verboten to ever arm droids (also the "we don't serve there kind" line in ANH is probably a reflection of the lingering distrust for droids after the clone wars).
Interesting. Wow. Yeah, that makes sense to me. Thanks for sharing that tidbit! 🙂
The dismemberment thing is dumb, if the volume of midichlorians is dependent on the amount of blood in the body how do itty-bitty guys like Yoda and Grogu have such power?
Felt like a bit of a Clerks reference there
Anakin slaying dooku with palpy in throne is so symbolic and foreshadowing
The other thing about Exegol was that it was supposedly a super-secret location where the heroes needed a specialized Sith wayfinder to even get there. But on the other hand there were hundreds of thousand people as personnel on the Star Destroyers, which would have been pretty hard to keep quiet.
As others have mentioned, Mace's line about how many Jedi they had left simply referred to how many were available at home base at the time. There were around 10,000 active members of the Jedi Order at that time, and most of them were on missions away from the Coruscant Temple for long periods of time or were stationed at different bases and outposts throughout the galaxy, so aside from the younglings and Padawans I doubt there were more than a few hundred hanging around at home at any given point. And not all of them fought in the war, either, for many reasons. While losing 200 Jedi in a single battle may seem huge to us, it's arguably fairly small compared to their overall numbers.
Here’s some better details that aren’t explained well in the movies:
1. Who the hell was Syfo-Dias and why was he making a clone army for the republic
2. Whats going on with midichlorians
3. The Emperor’s plan in RotJ is just stupid
4. What was Finn saying to Rey before they fell in the sand?
5. All of the plot points in The Rise of Skywalker
6. Why does Ben and Rey have a connection
7. Why does Luke attempt to kill Ben instead of doing literally anything else
8. How did Luke become a Jedi Knight in between Empire and Jedi
9. What’s the point of Snoke
10. What is the Resistance if the government is the New Republic like what are they resisting if the First Order is just imperial remnants returning?
11. Why is Leia no longer a Jedi?
I know some of these have been answered in other media but why wouldn’t you just answer them in the movies like it wouldn’t be that hard
Leia tongued her "brother", she said that she "always knew". And no one ever brought that up again.
To answer 10: The New Republic does not control the whole galaxy. They control one part of the galaxy. The First Order is more than just Imperial Remnants returning. They have taken control of another part of the galaxy. The Resistance are the people in the First Order part of the galaxy who are fighting against the First Order. Think of the First Order like the Nazis who took over France in WWII. The Resistance is like the French Resistance, fighting back against the Nazis who took over their country. In this analogy, the New Republic would be The United States, who may have sent some aid to the Resistance, but stayed out of the war for far too long. Luckily, the Germans did not have Starkiller Base to wipe out the US before we joined the war (though they were working on the atomic bomb).
Another item, similar to Luke only being temporarily devastated by his foster parents’ murder, is Leia not being affected much my her foster parents being murdered, along with their home planet.
Following up on the Ewoks being skilled fighters...They didn't fight just any Imperial force...They fought AND defeated the Legendary 501st Legion (aka VADER'S FIST). Remember, even then, there were still CLONE TROOPERS from the OG 501st in there AND in THAT battle. This is no small feat to wipe out a Legendary force like this.
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@@halikarnak1862 I made it up
palpatine himself said "an entire legion of my best troops"
Clerks explains the issue with the innocent people on the death star. A character mentions that contractors can decide not to take a job if they don't feel comfortable with the people they are doing the job for and that when you accept a job, you are hitching your cart to them. As they say, if you take a job for the mafia, you can't get upset if you are involved when another group attacks the employer and you by extension
The empire wasn’t against slavery
Only people who use fire as weapons are the Fetts.
So it's kinda obvious Fett killed Aunty an Uncle on Tatoonie.
I heard that in the novels, everything happens in a haze for luke, and only after the destruction of the death star he stop and think about his losses, then he griefs
I find that explanation for Luke totally believable. I’ve experienced a similar kind of thing myself when my mom died and in other instances of things that, to me, were very traumatic and injuring.
Actually, Rey technically isn’t a Jedi. She’s an unaligned Force user in most media that features Sequel characters
I think the Empire blowing up Alderaan was way more of a hit to their support than the lives lost when the Death Star blew up. Were there individuals who probably hated the rebels because they lost a loved one? Probably. But I'm sure there were also Imperials who defected (Legends had an Alderaanian Imperial talking to his family via holo when it was destroyed. He sure defected fast.) and the loss of life of a peaceful planet with millions(?) of innocent lives on it outweighs the destruction of a military target, even one with civilians onboard.
this sounds similar to what japan did to pearl harbor, they tried attacking innocent civilians on an island, and what they get in return? a couple atomic bombs exploding right in their homeland.
Nobody ever talks about how in the original trilogy C-3PO and R2-D2 could talk to the millennium falcon, death star, and other ships. Wished this was expressed on more in the prequels and sequels,
They’ve never properly explained in episode 3 how the technology in the prequels transitioned to the technology in the original trilogy
I would have put Maz having Luke's lightsaber at #1
In the novel for The Phantom Menace, Qui-Gon laments in one chapter that there are only about 10,000 Jedi left.
"We seem to be build for suffering" C3PO, A New Hope.
"We seem to be made to suffer, it's our lot in life."
Threepio cries out in pain when Chewie bonks his head on the Falcon's doorway.
Weren't most of these questions answered via comics and novels that are either currently canon as well as the non canon stories? I really feel like they were. I'm honestly asking. Part of the explaination of how Mad got Luke's lightsaber is someone in a cloak found it in cloud city. But so the story goes; Lando Calrissian approaches Luke. He offers to help Luke find the lightsaber if he'll come with him back to Cloud City. While his intentions aren't nearly as altruistic as they appear, Lando claims to know where the lightsaber is. This prompts Luke with a vision, seeing his hand and lightsaber falling through the chasm on Cloud City. However, the lightsaber is caught. A voice calls out to Luke, and a hooded figure tells Luke to follow his destiny while clutching the lightsaber.
I really like the idea that Ewoks where taking lone, or pairs, of scouting Stormtroopers for months in advanced of the Rebel attack.
Also the idea that the natural predator of the Ewok in their environment is actually the size of an Emperial walking tank, so they've had experience needing to fight in groups to take out larger creatures (and eat them)
#10 drives me crazy. How did Lucas not cover this? That never made sense to me.
When you say Clone Wars cartoon, never forget that there were two of them. This first animated Clone Wars series was amazing, it was made the guy behind Samurai Jack
Lucas never said that Anakin was less powerful because he lost midichlorians. As I understand it, it’s the concentration of midichlorians in one’s cells that relates to their power. Losing body parts wouldn’t affect that. I think that Anakin/Vader being weakened by his injuries is mostly psychological.
Totally agree
Yeah, it has to be concentration that's important, otherwise Yoda would have been screwed as he's so small.
Palpatine’s return is explained. He is a clone his original body did die. And was resurrected via cloning
It has be come a bit of a meme that Luke Skywalker blowing up the Death Star killed a lot of innocent people but it isn't the case. For context in Revenge of the Sith Palpatine reorganizes the Government into a Galactic Empire and starts building the Death Star. Many years later when the Death Star is in its final stages of completion during the events of Rogue One it is discovered that the Galactic Imperial Senate is unaware of the existence of the Death Star, indicating that for the last few decades the Death Star was built completely in secret from the public, with Tarkin issuing propaganda that the destruction of the Holy City of Jedha was "a mining accident".
Then we get to A New Hope where the admirals and moffs are discussing how the Rebellion is getting too big and gaining support in the Senate, only for Tarkin to interrupt and advise them all that the Imperial Senate has been dissolved and that the new government policy is to rule by fear with the Death Star being the biggest and ultimate symbol of it. In order to announce the existence of this weapon to the world they looked for a target that would make a good demonstration, destroying Alderaan (big supporter of the Rebellion and a core world). This use of the Death Star was the first time it was acknowledged to the public that such a thing exists. Its too late! The Empire has complete control and none can oppose them.
If anybody is able to get a "job" on the Death Star, its not a guy from the slums on Anoat who does it to keep the money coming in. Literally every single person onboard the Death Star will have been vetted by the Imperial Security Bureau (ISB), had psychological evaluations done on them to ensure their loyalty and absolutely without a doubt have been enrolled members of the military. The people serving in the mess halls on the Death Star aren't private contractors working for a catering company with an Empire deal, they are military staff, who've gone through the complete recruitment process, passed the psych tests for loyalty, gotten security clearances and served with a strong enough distinction that they were promoted to the biggest ship/station in the entire Empire under top secret protection.
NOW, if we want to talk about Legacy Star Wars canon that is no longer relevant, we could bring to the attention that a lot of Stormtroopers were actually conscripted soldiers from conquered worlds who are filled with propaganda every day and may be victims from a certain point of view, but as they're clones in the new canon this has become a less of a concern.
TL;DR everyone aboard the Death Star was a member of the Imperial Military, not innocent civilians.
What I don't get about Palpatine's fleet is there is not just one but two groups hiding in the BF unknown regions who each managed to smuggle enough material to assemble a galaxy conquering fleet without the New Republic noticing. The logistics of just one would be staggering and should have been impossible to hide, but the First Order was doing it too at the same time.
To be fair, hiding it from The New Republic would have been easy. The New Republic was weak, and The First Order was operating in a region of space not under TNR's control, or anyone's control (The Unknown Regions, which was also dangerous to travel into for people not familiar with it). Financing it, as the video points out, is an issue.
Where did they get the (trained) crews for all of those ships?
at 3:54, why is there 1 guy with his hands up, but he's wearing partial scout trooper armor?
(was there a deleted scene or something where a rebel steals a speeder bike?)
It's never mentioned that the Jedi are idiots for thinking that someone "bringing balance to the Force" ISN'T going to end with a LOT of them being killed since they were in power and they were out of balance with the Sith (and other random groups of Force users).
the darkside is the state of imbalance, whereas the jedi let the will of the force dictate unlike sith, so balance doesn't mean equal users of light and dark
@@UltimatelyAllah that's a bullshit hand wave excuse to justify the inclusion of a dumbass prophecy in the prequel trilogy.
@@UltimatelyAllah I disagree. That's just the victor writing the history. The Force is neutral, neither good nor bad, not truly light or dark. 10,000 Jedi and 2 Sith is absolutely an imbalance. To claim otherwise is to be just as arrogant as the Jedi were in thinking they could/should lead an army.
@@Bad_Wolf_Media it's not arrogance, its following the actual canon and not your personal head theories.
@@Bad_Wolf_Media well you're wrong.
George has already said that following the will of the force is balance and the darkside is bending the force to your will which is out of balance.
Luke was probably still really in shock about everything that transpired. Everything was moving too fast for him to properly mourn them. It all probably came out when Obi Wan died.
Uncle Owen deserved it. He didn't let luke go to the Tashi Station to pick up power converters.
It’s not Luke’s lightsaber it’s actually a Anakins, obi wan gave it to luke in a new hope
One thing people don't mention is that, by both the Emporer and Vader enticing Luke, it would mean the death of the other one.
In the prequels, it mentions that there can only be two Sith, no more, no less.
Vader suggests to Luke in ESB to kill the Emporer and that they can run the universe, as father and son.
Also, when Vader throws Palpatine into the abyss, it is because the Emporer wants Luke to turn to the Dark Side, which would mean that Vader would have to die.
So Vader destroys the Emporer to protect himself and Luke, but maybe also as revenge for Palpatine tricking him into killing Padme.
Also, Vader was the only one who could kill Palpatine. If Luke tried, he would have turned to the Dark Side instead.
Only Vader could kill him because he had already turned, and he was the chosen one, who could bring balance. That is why Palpatine sought to corrupt Anakin, so that he would side with him, and his only threat is our of the way.
The Stormtroopers on Endor couldn't have been that well trained. Otherwise, they'd know better than to follow a guerrilla army into their own terrain... especially if you're defending an installation.
Though there's always arrogance... teddy bears with spears wouldn't look terribly intimidating to a futuristic army.
The Empire actually initially won that battle though.
If it wasn't for Chewbacca hijacking an ATST, they never would have breached the bunker.
Wasn’t the temporary initial success of the Ewoks and Rebels also a feint, a fake-out, planned and orchestrated by the Emperor (as Luke pokes at! 😉) in his overconfidence and arrogance?
@@1Holbytla Could be. But there didn't appear to be any indication that the Emperor was guiding the ground fighting... or was even aware of events on the ground.
The Ewoks bigger weapons, hill side log traps, swinging logs etc that take out the AT-STs are actually anti Gorax (caravan of courage) defenses, usually set up to defend a village. I always wondered how they got that stuff set up so quick.
Already there, that's why they lure them into their traps of death.
The fact Lea comforts Luke despite her entire planet being walloped always got me. I just don't see that as likely.
given the ratio of jedi to the entire population of the star wars galaxy, the equivalent would be .00078 jedi for the entire current population of earth. it's not that big of a surprise that han thinks they weren't real
If there was one human on earth out of the seven billion that had super powers I think everyone would know about him if he went public
@@Cyberleader672 different when compared to a galaxy that travels to multiple different universes for fun
@@reatropman Even when the Jedi are the official police force of that galaxy
@@Cyberleader672 i mean a lot of people would know of them for sure, but everyone? would random kids living in a small rural town mostly disconnected from the outside world know? how about a worker in some mine in africa? and that doesn't even take into account believing in them. would someone who grew up in a factory, surrounded by cheats, liars, and gamblers, really believe there was this one person who could lift things with their mind, who wasn't bullshitting like all the other fakes and charlatans we've seen irl.
it isn't a big stretch to say a cynical smuggler who grew up in such terrible conditions wouldn't believe in this random super-powered do-gooder, especially when the entire government is saying that they were a liar who was trying to fool the whole planet (which the empire was, by the time han got off corellia).
@@StealthPants1 To answer your first question yes anyone with basic communication to the outside world would know especially since we would have the capacity of proving it. The political affect alone of such a being existing would be enough to show it wasn't fake.
As for the second I could believe that if Han was born during the Empire's rain but he wasn't he spent 13 years of his life in the Republic. The Jedi were ambassadors for the Republic. They would have visited every planet that was part of it and any other power in the galaxy that weren't. Every government would know about them
Exegol is in a place that’s nearly impossibly to get to from the known populated galaxy, and a place nobody tries to go because most people who come back - if they come back at all - are mutilated, insane, both, or like....inside out. It’s a place everyone in their right mind avoids. Plenty of secrecy to build a fleet in over the course of decades.
“It’s a total head scratcher for those who only watched the films” and also didn’t think about how long it’s been and how long he had to do it, and the massive work force he had there or where it was, and how hard it was to reach safely and ALSO.
Did you expect Poe to say everything despite only just learning Palps was back like five minutes ago? Rise of Skywalker has a bunch of problems, but these ain’t it. Turn on your damn brains and actually think about what you’re seeing and hearing.
About Luke's grief, maybe he was in shock when he saw his uncle and aunt, but I think maybe his reaction to the death of Obi-Wan has more to do with the feeling that he lost the man who knew his father and who could teach him to be a jedi like him. So, in a way, maybe he felt like he lost his father by loosing the only person left who knew him...
You wanna know how Palps built that massive fleet? Ewok labour. Yes, not only are they the most skilled fighters in the galaxy, they're also master craftsmen!
the 90's game TIE FIGHTER from the X-Wing series plays out from the viewpoint of the Empire. one of the best Star Wars games ever made.
7:00 There are many dark side and light side users who are not Sith or Jedi. Kylo Ren is a Knight of Ren, not a Sith. The Inquisitors are founded by the Sith, but none of them are actually Sith. The Witches of Dathomir, Darth Maul’s home world, used The Dark Side as magic, and the Zeffo used the Light Side, but called it “Life Wind.” The Fallanasi were the group who invented the Force Projection technique Luke Skywalker used to project himself for his battle against Kylo Ren.
Shadows of the Empire went into the effect that Owen and Beru's dearh had on Luke.
I'm glad that you mentioned that Luke barely new Obi-Wan. Their physical relationship lasted a few days at best? And later on in A New Hope, he does the same thing with R2D2...he says "not on your life. this droid and I have been through a lot." Huh? I mean, a lot happened in a week but again, you barely know the droid.
was that box droid really being tortured or was he getting Jabba's brand applied?
Whereas there were over ten thousand Jedi in total, the galaxy had, if I remember correctly, around 4 quadrillion sentient, spacefaring life forms in the same galaxy.
That 10k sounds large at first, but not after finding out how many "people" there are.
Luke did know Obi-wan more than you might think.
4:40 The movie Clerks of all things has a good discussion about this.
mace windu also uses a lightsaber form called vaapad which requires him to use the dark side.
The reason why , after lukes Aunt and Uncle were killed by Storm Troopers and it's never mentioned again is............. THE CAST AND CREW AND LUCAS HIMSELF WERE SO SHAKEN BY THE EVENT THAT THEY COULDN'T BEAR TO EVEN MENTION IT AGAIN.
...........EVERYONE WAS AFFECTED AND TRAUMATIZED BY THE EVENT
i also have to say that even seeing this as a child when it first came out
i never spoke of it either as the pain was too much to bear and as a child i was traumatized by the event
Circumcised Jedi loosing midichlorians in their foreskin:
"We were on the verge of greatness, we were this close.
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“Somehow, Luke’s lightsaber returned”
Question that y'all missed: How did the first order get created after the fall of the empire?
The thing with his aunt and uncle's death is he never witnessed it just the aftermath and what was a charred unrecognisable corpse, obi wan however he saw him die infront of his eyes, and as a comment luke makes when he hears leia hologram where she mentions obi wan kenobi he wonders if he's a relation to old ben kenobi meaning that luke at least knew obi wan at least in a way that one may know the old guy living down the street from them
Ewoks. The NVA of the Star Wars universe but a friendly teddybear form.
Besides the massive amounts of innocent deaths that the Rebels cause (which is something that WAS touched upon in the "Rebels" animated series) one problem I had was that they would show someone talking to a hologram in a communicator on their wrist, then go over to the person they are talking to and instead of seeing only the person's head they see the entire person. This might be explainable, but seeing them standing there with their arms at their sides instead of one raised to speak into the communicator is just ridiculously wrong!
The Mandalorian season 2 looks at the empire point of view about the rebels being terrorist.
Especially from the point of view of "patriots" participating in Operation Cinder...
*Here is a detail I’d like to know the reason for. Why did Luke’s lightsaber retract when his hand was cut off? Did it have a dead man switch?*
Maybe lukes finger on the severed hand hit the button to retract.
@@yoda908 *Come on master. Pretty sure keeping your fingers away from the button while dueling has to be the first thing you learn to do when using a light saber. Plus you can clearly see his hand is no where near the switch*
The Empire Strikes Back. A scene not often talked about or at least I have not read about it, Luke hit Vadar on the shoulder with his lightsaber. Vadar does make a sound like it hurt however nothing bad happened to Vadar. Just before this, Luke can be seen cutting through metal Vadar force throw at him. This is he same lightsaber that Anikin used which cut through tanks, metal doors, and many other things. But against Vadar, it just bounced right off.
Im sure its in the Canon somewhere the material of Vader's suit is made of, and almost certainly it is a lighter resistant material, there's a few out there
like with the light and dark sides, good and bad are merely in illusion, it's an reality Motivation and it is often mix any who has either good or bad intentions to themselves and/or to others
Luke knew Owen and Beru weren't his real parents. And Owen was very gruff with him. We can assume that that was pretty much their relationship given how Beru steps into Luke's argument with his uncle on Lukes behalf like she's done it many times before. Obi-Wan was his father's best friend and a Jedi like his father. Obi-Wan knew everything about the things Luke has been dreaming about all his life and Obi-Wan was the pathway to everything he wanted to be -- and helped and encouraged him to get there. Yes, Luke was saddened by the brutality that befell his aunt and uncle, but I don't think he felt much of a loss of family or connection... until the greatest link to his father, his past and his future was murdered by Darth Vader.
Luke didn't just lose Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru, he also lost his best friend Biggs and didn't even bat an eye
And he makes reference to killing animals - Classic psychopath behaviour 😄
Droids are much better treated in the Rogue and Wraith Squadron Novels in the good old EU (even with it's faults... Still better). The Astromechs aren't tools. They're a pilots companion, even a friend.
As someone who's read Isard's Revenge many times ( and can point every single mistake in it) I love the part where an Imperial officer acknowledges that even though he doesn't understand the bond the X-Wing pilots have to their Astromechs, he respects it.
The dark side one is Mace Windu. His fighting style draws on the dark side. He literally created it to harness the dark side while keeping himself in check
I think Anakin, by killing Mace, actually saved him.
Mace wanted to kill Palpatine. That would have turned him to the Dark Side.
Anakin, by killing Mace, stopped him turning.
Not to mention the power converters that are still waiting to be picked up at Tosche Station to this day.
4:25 Like the video! I would say though, it's hard to call anyone on the Death Star innocent, really. Not in the same way as a natural planet like Alderaan. Don't let its friendly round shape confuse the fact that it was basically a massive warship, so its destruction was no more evil than taking down a very large Star Destroyer. Sure, not everyone on it was manning the guns, but all were military personnel in service of its purpose, to blow up planets. I do however agree that its destruction would have been seen by Imperials as a massive rallying cry for their lost comrades.
Yep. All were military personnel technically complicit in a genocide. On the other hand Luke is clearly an enemy combatant. The Rebels have a clear organizational structure, political and military leadership, chain of command, uniforms with insignias. Hell their vehicles are also clearly marked with their insignias and could never be mistaken for civilian vehicles. There is absolutely nothing fishy about the Battle of Yavin. It is literally a battle between two armies.
@@barkasz6066 Exactly, that's a good explanation. It would be a different matter if the Rebellion had, say, bombed civilians in Coruscant City. That could be considered a war crime. But by all that we are shown, the Rebels kept their operations to strictly Imperial military targets.
In reference to #4, you should have mentioned Mace Windu. He taps into the dark side when he needs to, and uses a lightsaber style that is almost exclusively sith. Also why his saber is purple.
Luke grieved at the death of his aunt and uncle. But like Leia, circumstances dictated that they had more important things to deal with.