Maybe the child would be better off at her dad’s place? OP and the rest of the household will have peace and daddy dearest gets a front row view of his daughters actions
@@lorilancaster5917 and a different therapist, if she was just the hiding thing op could have gotten her something she could hide and they can look for it together. this seems more like kleptomania.
For the longest time, I thought the narrator was an AI and sometimes I do think that, but then stuff like this happens and it reminds me that this is an actual guy with a beautiful reading articulate voice
@@ghostdragon5735EXACTLY what i was gonna say. Sometimes i wonder if XO is just good AI or a real person but when he breaks like that definitely reminded it’s a real person. Love when he breaks like that
I have to say NTA. OP is still not responsible for whatever her parents might have done. Sis can cut them off herself, but she has NO right to demand that OP do the same. She can only manage her own relationships with them, and OP is quite correct to point out that therapy hasn't helped her as much as she seems to think, if she feels entitled to force a change to somebody else's.
And I’m curious if she’s actually in therapy? I say that because she’s still using terms such as scapegoat and golden child which therapist don’t use. Plus I can’t think of a single therapist who would expect the other daughter to cut contact with the parents just to “help” their client
So, everyone OP asks has a different story about them growing up. Lucy gets "therapy", calls up her younger sister basically saying "i know I blamed you for everything bad in my life but now I wanna be sisters, oh and also you need to cut off mom and dad." And reddit, being the most miserable site on the face of the internet gaslights OP into thinking that her sister is right.
@@kitkakitteh Yeah, I was wondering about that. OP doesn't know the real story, just that sis was always fighting with parents. Parents don't try to keep OP from sis but sis tries to keep OP from parents. Whoever gives the ultimatum is likely the bad guy.
the BS part is that people on the sub have a wired value system of what is wrong. Op knows the truth but dosen't want to admit it, her sister is just a POS. people need to understand, GOOD Parents reward GOOD ACTIONS AND ETC. This is why i hate the "golden child" BS. It became the new " you're a goodie two shoes" insult. Lucy had the nerve to demand OP kiss her rotten a** after years of being a bully.
And the YTA commenter needs to stay in their lane. For OP to only have contact with her sister sparsely yet the favoritism is clear at her distance is telling.
@@lorilancaster5917 Ik. What the héçk. I can tell when strangers online are neglectïñg their kids bc it’s obvious. And the proof is all in receipts in the family group chat of her only ever prioritizing one of her kids.
Also I feel like she needs to pay OP back for those un-used concert tickets. That was horrible. Wasting money like that shouldn't go unpunished. The very least she could've done was ask if anyone else wanted to take the kid or if it was okay to transfer/gift them to someone who would use them, or at least informed the OP so the OP could try to find someone for them.
Daughter in that story sounds like a kleptomanic. I had a flatmate who was like that - stole odd things and hid them in her room. She was infuriating to live with.
@@GiordanDiodato Something's going on. Maybe she should spend a month or two at dad's full time, we'll see if he starts losing stuff too. Eventually (if she hasn't already) she's going to be stealing at school or at stores and get caught, then it's going to get interesting. Oh, and the current therapist is an idiot too. My armchair psychologist guess is it's a coping mechanism for stress/anxiety, an attempt at being in control, or there's some other childhood trauma. Whatever it is, she needs to get handled.
Story 1: look it’s possible the parents did play favorites, and it’s possible that Lucy might be playing the victim. It’s not like this is the first story where it could’ve gone either way. But we don’t know, and more importantly, OP not even sure. Maybe she should IDK, I don’t know her backstory or if it was obvious or not. But what I do know is sis can’t have it both ways. Lucy can’t acknowledge OP had nothing to do with the issues between her and their parents and then tell her to pick her side. And keep in mind this is one phone call after years of NC, immediately after an apology. maybe give OP some time to process, and talk to her before the ultimatum and demands.
I dunno, to me it sounds like Lucy was used to being the only kid and wasn't properly prepared for OP's impending arrival. She reacted negatively to OP's existence, which would explain her screaming at OP when she was littler and doing god only knows what else.
There is also possibility that when Op sister was born they were poor and working all the time but by the time Op was born they weren’t and had more time for Op and her sister felt like a victim and acted out and things snowball from there
The little thief: Neuropsychotherapist here. The therapist is indeed useless. This is about a feeling of scarcity, real OR imagined. The telltale action is that she will use OP's shampoo and conditioner before using her own brand new shampoo and conditioner. Basically, she's resource hoarding. She absolutely needs a good Therapist. Not a counselor or Licensed Clinical Social Worker, sorry, but this is a psychological issue that needs to be addressed now because living in scarcity mode is a horrible experience and most people will write her off as a thief. Period. But, remember, the feelings of scarcity need not align with any actual scarcity of resources.
Your explanation makes me wonder if she’s ever been in foster care. Certainly not the only reason, just a knee jerk reaction. I assume she didn’t go through the Great Depression 😉 which triggered a lot of hoarding in people of that era.
I had to horde clothes,food and even stole them because at home we didn't have anything, or rather,,I was overlooked always, but my sis got a whole refrigerator full of food&new clothes, because "she was special", because she was sick when born.. the disparity between us was so huge,that my grandparents tried to intervene,but my mom cut off contact between us.. I was thrown out at 15,and had to learn to take care of myself. My mom said to everyone that I was the problem child,and never did anything right. Now as a mom myself, I could never treat any of my kids differently.. "my mom", used to say to me that I look too much like my dad,and that she hates him.. what a nice thing to say to a child . Some people don't deserve to be parents!! Now I'm so much happier,and have an amazing supportive husband&his family! Never Knew that life could be so great!
@@minnarosenqvistmr Man, makes me wonder about the judgments on that story where one stepsister had a big allowance while the other stepsister had practically nothing, and everyone was just going "that girl needs to learn that life's not fair and to stop whining about it." Wonder how easy it is to ingrain a feeling of scarcity that results in lifelong psychological damage...
It's hard to get the full picture from Story 1, as OP should probably speak to family members or friends other than the parents to find out what happened with lucy during their childhoods with a more objective lens. But either way, Lucy is severely damaged and has somehow learned to be manipulative, and not in a good way. It's probably the parents' fault, although there's a possibility of mental unwellness that started early, what some people would label a "born bad" situation.
Given the age gap, the sister was probably spoiled rotten by the parents. Then OP came along and how dare she be born and get the parents' attention. OP's birth probably showed the parents the entitled monster they created, but it was too late to reverse their poor parenting. It's also possible that the sister was always strong willed and the parents tried their best to raise her right.
@@buckeyenative1365 this is sadly, probably likely. A number of years ago there was a story on the (US TV channel) news about how a young boy killed (or nearly killed, I forget) his baby sister, and the boy reportedly said, "I don't want a sister! I don't want a sister! EVERYBODY LOVES HER MORE THAN ME!"
@@buckeyenative1365 I also know a few people who had some issues with siblings who realized that while they can't force the parents to do things, they'd target the younger kid and make their lives hell when they're angry with the parents...the parents punish them for being assholes, sibling gets more angry and doubles down on their target. If they don't realize why their being punished, and realize it's them fucking up the issue spirals. You have a "Sure, the other kid is treated better, but it's because they were being dicks rather than being punished for their own stupidity.
Story 2: their daughter has only seen them three times in four years and he openly abandoned them. Because she has a new baby, and her husband couldn’t force OP out or make them call him daddy. But yeah, it’s OP’s fault the kids don’t see their half sibling🙄. But you know they have to blame OP, how are they gonna sleep at night knowing they raised a deadbeat that picked her new family over her kids without needing to. They need to get La La Land, OP doesn’t owe them anything and doesn’t need to be concerned with the little girl who has both her parents in her life.
I do hope OP informs the court about ex in-laws bs because I see there next step filing for grandparents rights so they can force OPs kids to be with them instead on holidays
Last OP literally shared stories of neglect, allowed bullying, and favoritism. The first redditor, skips every bit of that, and says OP has no idea. Beyond Infuriating.
LITERALLY!!! The choir director asked OP to attend more events and the sister "forgot" to take him to the symphony (but didn't forget to ask people for money for the other son), but OP is just assuming???
That one commenter in the last story was out of their mind! OP had just laid out what she knew of her nephews' neglect and the commenter made up 'once or twice a year' out of thin air!!!! Grrr
One of the worst Reddit tropes is that when a man writes a story, Especially a husband/father Redditors will assume or invent information in their own heads so they can shade the man as abusive or neglectful. “She cheated to escape you” etc. in the last story, there’s the reverse of that effect, a misandrist wants a woman to be innocent so badly, they intentionally ignore information that was prominent in the story. “She texts about Jackson all the time in the group chat, makes sure she has all his needs covered even if she has to beg, never mentions ethan.” That’s not an assumption that’s a fact with a text log to prove it. It would be treated as a written document in court, the Reddit women can’t be wrong brigade can’t take it tho, so it’s easier for them to go, “wow assumptions! Wow!”
It's reddit. Everyone "reads between the line". And just as sexist to women too. If a woman breaks up with a guy because he's an asshole, she's automatically "cheating" and "for the streets"
Klepto story: I’m wondering as well how is she when she’s with her dad, if she not doing it to him, then this could be a whole different story, unless in a weird way dad is teaching her so he can piss off mom
S1: Comments sure like to jump to conclusions based on nothing. OP has no basis on which to judge her sister’s relationship with their parents. Sis was 9 when OP was born. Whatever their relationship was and is, there is zero reason for it to impact OP’s relationship with her parents.
As the supposed “golden child” in my own family, I believe OP’s sister was angry about the different treatment between older and younger siblings. Sometimes when parents have their first kid they weren’t. Ready. to say the least. And her sister took her grudge out on OP instead of the parents. My sister did that. I will never forget her telling me that I ruined her childhood because she was parentified but that it was okay because she forgave me.
It may not even be a golden child/scapegoat situation. My sister is 8 years younger than me. We were treated very differently growing up. First, it was because of the big age difference, and later, because she was the only one at home by the time she was 13 and all the resources originally split between 4 kids was all available for her. I was never mistreated, I just had age appropriate chores that she didn't have. My mom also went through an empty nest phase because 3 of her chicks flew the coop in a single year. So, she tried to keep my sister "the baby" for as long as possible. I was never jealous of that and felt like my sister didn't enjoy the same freedom that I did because my mom was so focused on her. I guess I could have been a different type and viewed the extra attention and more clothes etc that my sister got as something unfair to me, but frankly, I was very happily becoming an adult and making a life for myself. It's possible the sister was a narcissist and didn't get along with anyone. The OP doesn't have any good memories of her sister, and that seems very odd. I have tons of memories of me and my little sister. She was my shadow as a toddler, she was my biggest fan when she was in elementary school, by the time I could drive I loved taking her places with me and when she became an adult we became best friends. My parents have different relationships with each of us because we are all very unique individuals, and that doesn't mean bad, just different.
For all we know in the first the daughter could have been a huge problem child, which Op was the golden child, maybe Lucy never made it easy on the parents so she’s just feeding her false version due to projecting. And the yta comments in the last sounds bad parents that don’t like to be called bad parents. Op is right, the sister is a terrible parent
And with a huge gap in their ages, it sounds like there is a possibility for OP not to get the full picture. I agree about the last story. If sis was going to be so horrid to her affair baby, why keep him?
First story, as someone who is the golden child and is currently low contact with parents, OP is a bit clueless with the "i dont know whos right because parents say this but sister says this". Like if your sister is saying they made her the scapegoat and you the golden, of course you're going to have a better experience. At the same time, the siater definitely has no right to demand OP cut off the parents in solidarity, im suspicious of the supposed therapy or the sister isn't taking the therapy advice as shes supposed to and trying to get some sort of compensation she feels owed. Its hard to know the real story, if OP really wants the truth they should see if theres a third party unbiased source to corroborate any claims the sister made and open their eyes, or find out the sister is full of it
Story 1: NTA for not wanting to cut off the parents for Lucy's sake. I do wonder what actually went down in the house though, sometimes you do get a golden child situation, sometimes the people throwing out the term "Golden Child" were either poorly behaved and saw the other kid as the "golden child" because they weren't getting punished for...not being poorly behaved or just jealous of their sibling. Hell there was a reddit story where the OP called their sibling the golden child because their parents gave their younger sibling hand me downs, there was a also double digit age difference so those were *old* hand me downs too.
Eh, considering the age gap, it's far more likely (to me at least) that Lucy was mad that OP existed; note this is largely because Lucy basically tells her "I know I blamed you for everything, but-"
Story 1: sometimes there is no Golden Child: there’s only an easy child, and one that had developmental difficulties and acted out against the whole family. The relationships are going to be very different.
Story 1: NTA. You can't ask someone for reconciliation and make demands at the same time. Lucy isn't wrong for cutting their parents off but OP has no obligation to do the same. Doesn't sound at all like Lucy is making progress in therapy and is trying to use OP to hurt them.
1st story: We are missing part of the story here. As a parent myself and many friends with children, all children don't grow up to be the same. Their are some that grow to be gentle and giving and some grow up just bad inconsiderate azz wipes. You can't always blame it on the parent. Yes a lot of their behavior is learned but I've seen with my own eyes good parent just having a hard time raising their child. I'm not in any way excusing the sisters parents at all but, for her to say, I'm doing better so, WE need to cut off our parents to make me feel good is crazy. She's NOT doing better at all. That's just manipulative, period.
Story #1: Redditors are wild, sometimes. Look, it's really pretty simple - OP's sister was nasty to OP when they were children and now wants OP to cut off their parents. The fact that OP has a good relationship with their parents only simplifies OP's awareness that the sister hasn't grown out of being a bully, therapy or no therapy. It really doesn't matter whether or not OP's parents treated the older sister poorly. The sister never bothered to foster a healthy relationship with OP and ignored OP for years. Now she wants to issue an ultimatum that would cut OP off from family members with whom OP actually has a good relationship (thus isolating OP), in favor of her *maybe* offering a better sibling relationship than previously instead. Not at all surprised OP peaced right out of that.
Lucy asks too much for a shallow prize. If she wanted a relationship with OP, she’d have one regardless. Op made the right decision; don’t be a pawn in someone else’s game.
And the ultimatum of “get rid of the parents who loved you for a possible relationship with someone who hated and resented you and may still” isn’t the prize she thinks. Even then the clincher that it’s a maybe on a relationship with her if OP obliges
Nta in story 1. While it’s true that golden children exist it’s a term that’s thrown around a lot when it’s not true. I’m sure my sister would swear I was the golden child but in reality it was the opposite. She was gifted one and I was the average one. But she didn’t stay gifted and since I did better in life I was the golden child. 🙄
The thief child would not be staying in my house while they are doing that to their siblings. It is unacceptable to inflict this crap on their siblings, or tell them they need to do something to keep their things from being stolen. It puts the responsibility on the wrong child. The thief is the problem, not the victims of the thief, for Pete's sake. Massive amounts of therapy with a new psychiatrist or psychologist needs to happen asap. Whether resource theft/guarding or kleptomania, this issue is serious. If the op and the kid's dad don't pull out all the stops now, their daughter will end up in jail someday.
When Op ex threatened to take full custody of the thieving daughter I kinda wished she let him because there is 1 of 2 likely outcomes either her daughter stops being a thief or her ex finally understands what Op was going through
She wasn't a scape goat. Lucy was lazy, lying, entitled... That's not a good person. OP grew up being treated like crap by her. Why would OP cut them off for her bully?
Just because they say that about your sister now doesn't mean they treated her poorly. My parents treated my sister like the golden child and I was always the one that got in trouble for her actions. If you ask her she will tell you I'm the favourite. Why? Because when she finally moved out my parents finally gave me attention and we developed a relationship when I was 14. She despises them because I was the favourite and dismisses any mention of how she was treated better and got things I didn't as a child. Don't let reality get in the way of a good story. Some people just like to be the victim.
The last story, did the first 2 commenters not read the story? OP's sister obviously favors her older son instead of treating both boys equally. The oldest is constantly being suspended from school for bullying his brother and it sounds like he doesn't get grounded or anything for it at home. OP's sister didn't even bother to check on Ethan when he was throwing up, she didn't even take him to the hospital when he broke his hand, yet according to Reddit, OP is the AH for actually caring about Ethan. From what OP has posted, it's clear that there is favortism. I hope OP stays in Ethan's life, is there for him, etc OP is NTA. Oh and Sara deserved to be called out for being a terrible parent. She doesn't deserve Ethan.
I've said this several times, but I really love that XO doesn't do the usual reddit reader thing of including his own thoughts, he just reads the story and a few NTA and YTA comments. Nice and simple, great to listen to while im home alone. But holy shit when you break professional reader mode and can't help but chuckle while reading something ridiculous honestly hilarious 😂
OP: My daughter is really great. Sure, she's a thief and a liar but other than that small thing honestly she's great! Me: Yeah, no, I don't believe you. "and she now takes _both of them"_ - cue XO wheezing laughter... cue me wheezing with laughter.
YTA???? why should she cut off her parents? it was the sister who was abusive to her. you only cut off family if you absolutely need to. she does not even know if it was her parents at fault. NTA. she knows the sister is abusive and has a good relationship with her parents. i think she would be a moron to cut off her parents.
And they also accused OP of witnessing sister’s abuse by the parents and did nothing? First off there is a huge age gap between OP and older sister so that can hinder what she remembers. Second, her parents told her that sister was problematic and based on the interaction OP and sister had recently, it’s easy to see the parents side to be more accurate
@lorilancaster5917 Yeah, 9 years. Chances are the earliest memories OP had of her were as a 4 year old and the sister was gone by the time she was 9. There's not much OP can do at those ages.
Parents got things wrong with Lucy maybe missed a mental health issue but what therpist tell someone get you’re sister to cut parents off then you two can be happy without knowing op side ? Sounds like Lucy is still lying and manipulative
S1: there is almost a 10yr age gap between the siblings. I'm willing to bet the OP's sister acted out not being the only child anymore. I don't think there was a golden child/scapegoat dynamic between the siblings she's probably just an entitled asshole
I hate thieves. But the girl constantly stealing stuff just to leave it in her room to disappear and never be touched again, or stealing other people's things when she has her own that she never uses, makes me think she has a mental problem with impulse or hoarding or whatever. Her theft doesnt sound malicious, rather like an addiction. Regardless Id still be pissed by her stealing, and itd be a great day when she gets the help to stop it.
OP is NTA ... 'Lucy' treated OP like shit and she's supposed to cut her parents off at her sisters 'demand' ... no ... Lucy sounds like she needs more therapy and OP needs to go LC or NC with her. Sounds like the parents just gave Lucy what she deserved growing up.
S1: NTA Reason: While Lucy is well within her right to cut her parents off, she DOES NOT have that same right to tell OP to do the same. ETA: Given their age gap, its fare more likely that Lucy was used to having Mom and Dad's undivided attention , and when Op came along .... well all hell broke loose. - I'm sorry, but not even a THERAPIST would recommend that Op does what Lucy demands as it benefits no one but Lucy. -- "In order for us to continue our relationship as sisters, you MUST cut off our parents who've been nothing but good to you but TERRIBLE to me!" Is one of the most selfish things I've ever heard.
Also, the YTA comment is not the win they think it is. There is an almost ten year age gap between Lucy and OP. It's not at all impossible to believe that Lucy would be rude to OP or their parents, entitled, lazy, or a general disappointment! ESPECIALLY when the parents would want Lucy to do something with the fam!
The real question was Op really the golden child ? Or what the sister really just mad at OP’s presence and had jealousy and was normal? Depending on the person, which children are people with their own thought process and emotions, and while Reddit believes we’re all can be modeled to our parents will with “ love,” some kids will not . Just like some people are naturally jealous of everything they don’t have or won’t have, she took things too far and acted out, and people got sick of her shit. Or maybe they’re monsters who the f knows . But regardless, it’s very entitled for OP’s sister to just assume that OP will cut off her parents, aka the only source of love she’s ever gotten out of this family due to sisterhood, right ? Naw, OP’s right… nta
1. NTI. It is a completely unreasonable to ask you to cut off parents you get along with. If she was really "healing" she would not ask this of you. If her therapist thought that was a good idea she needs a new therapist.
Let me guess, the mother did not want to be a parent, but when new hubby came along and the kids refused to cll new hubby dad, she ended up giving him his own kid to shut him up?
Story 1 I wouldn't want ky siblings to have contact woth my parents either. If I put my parents on an info diet, they will pester and beg anyone and everyone for the info. Including my own children. The sister sounds absolutely healed and is asking to have support. And the OP isn't willing to give it. Sis needs to find her own family.
1-NTA. Your sister either isn't in therapy or needs a different therapist and F the first commenter! 2-NTA F your ex's relatives! You need to ltalk to your lawyer and have him explain it to the relatives that they will lose any contact if they continue that BS! 3-NTA What the commenters said! 4-YTA! Ethan does need you in his corner, I hope you continue to support him.
With the information provided in the first story no one knows the truth. It could be that the parents did parent her properly but not all children grow up model citizens. Lucy could well have turned out exactly as the parents stated so to describe anyone here as the AH or otherwise is a nonsense. Ask other family members to get a better knowledge of what actually is the truth, I suspect it is a bit of everything but perception will always vary with each beholder! Bottom line is OP gets on with the parents so why consider giving that up particularly with OP’s own recollection of treatment by her sister. Based on that information I would go NC with the sister.
Story 1: I gotta be honest, i don’t give 2 craps if Op’s parents WERE toxic, most normal people don’t bully their sibling their entire life, then come back and say “hey cut off our parents if you want a relationship with me” …does that sound like something an abused child would say…? NTA Op this is ridiculous
Boundaries are limits we put on ourselves, control is limits you put on others. If sisters wanted to reconcile, a reasonable boundary would be “don’t push me to reconcile with parents or bring them around me”.
Story 3, sounds like the daughter is a kleptomaniac. Taking things & insisting the things are her’s is classic kleptomania signs. OP needs to get her daughter a new therapist ASAP. If the ex doesn’t think the child is a thief & shouldn’t be treated as one he can take custody of her & experience the little thief stealing all his stuff.
Older sibling are not jealous when there is unfair treatment by the parents. The parents just want to be known as good parents and lie a out the truth.... if the child who is upset complains and speaks put, its not about jelousy and shows who the parents are. Its not the other kids job to support that sibling when demanded
S1 Everyone sucks. Obviously the parents suck. You don’t ask someone to cut their parents off. But Jesus OP acting like the parents poop gold is just stupid. And saying “they won’t do this to my kids” is a gamble I wouldn’t risk taking.
Now that's what I call projection. Like sorry your parents suck but most parents are pretty solid, or at the minimum their adult children have the intelligence and maturity to understand that nobody is perfect.
S1. NTA. I get a feeling that the sister became jealous when OP was born. She was probably spoiled until OP was born and acted out on it. S3. YTA. OP needs to realize that she is the parent. There is no way in heck any child of mine would act like this. Conversations don't help. There is something called discipline. Let the father take custody of her. Let him deal with her thieving self. S4. NTA. The sister is a terrible mother. If I were OP, I would contact CPS. And keep in touch with the boy. Hell, I might just try to take him away from her.
2 deadbeat mom, call me cynical but I think the reason they want the kids to bond is so they can foster the halfsister unto op when ex is done with being mom again and dad does not want to do it alone and the grandparents don't wanna raise another kid.
You grew up in the same house but did not have the same parents. You called yourself the golden child. My dad was also lazy and a disappointment as his parents said as they took turns holding his head under water.
S1) So the Golden Child OP won't condemn her monster parents who have given her everything??? Why just imagine that. Three guesses who's in the sheeity parents Will to inherit everything??? First two don't count. Everyone is blaming Lucy......who is the Child that got abused by her parents fawning over Golden Child OP. Lucy the Child lashed out......imagine that. She was angry and alone and hurt and confused and lost because she didn't know why her parents now hated her. And you people are blaming Lucy??? Ya'll suck. Just like Golden Child OP and her parents. And her supposed 'parents' that abandoned her for Golden Child OP made it worse. Then labeled Lucy the 'bad one' and lavished Golden Child OP more as the 'good one'. OP knows she is the Golden Child, but let's blame Lucy anyway. Lucy is better off without this AH 'family'.
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Is it just me or does anybody else think it's hilarious when the narrator gets tickled and starts giggling while he's trying to talk. 😂
I love it too 😂
Yeah, it's almost as funny as when he tried to pronounce "Buford" or "Quinceañera" 😂
Every time 😂
It's why I stuck around through the annoying pre-tween years old nonsense.
It’s so perfect
"She's a great kid, but she's a thief and a liar" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love when XO laughs 😂😁
Maybe the child would be better off at her dad’s place? OP and the rest of the household will have peace and daddy dearest gets a front row view of his daughters actions
@@lorilancaster5917 and a different therapist, if she was just the hiding thing op could have gotten her something she could hide and they can look for it together. this seems more like kleptomania.
@@velvety2006yeah that therapist recommendation is like when they justify a bullies behavior because they have a crush on the bullied
It makes me absolutely giddy whenever XO cracks up when reading a story
The narrator's wheeze at 9:07 is so funny!
I always love when a story gets them to laugh like that 🤣
For the longest time, I thought the narrator was an AI and sometimes I do think that, but then stuff like this happens and it reminds me that this is an actual guy with a beautiful reading articulate voice
I always like those breaks
@@ghostdragon5735EXACTLY what i was gonna say. Sometimes i wonder if XO is just good AI or a real person but when he breaks like that definitely reminded it’s a real person. Love when he breaks like that
@@ghostdragon5735his voice is amazing. And his giggles are adorable
I have to say NTA. OP is still not responsible for whatever her parents might have done. Sis can cut them off herself, but she has NO right to demand that OP do the same. She can only manage her own relationships with them, and OP is quite correct to point out that therapy hasn't helped her as much as she seems to think, if she feels entitled to force a change to somebody else's.
“Not responsible” perhaps not directly but ignoring it and enabling mistreatment makes OP a accomplice. I hope OP never has kids
And I’m curious if she’s actually in therapy? I say that because she’s still using terms such as scapegoat and golden child which therapist don’t use. Plus I can’t think of a single therapist who would expect the other daughter to cut contact with the parents just to “help” their client
I totally agree. The sister is an idiot!
@@lorilancaster5917 she's either not in therapy or she went shopping for one who'd say what she wanted to hear.
It can still make you a crappy human being if you don't make drastic amends, which, I'm sure the brat that is op will not do.
So, everyone OP asks has a different story about them growing up. Lucy gets "therapy", calls up her younger sister basically saying "i know I blamed you for everything bad in my life but now I wanna be sisters, oh and also you need to cut off mom and dad." And reddit, being the most miserable site on the face of the internet gaslights OP into thinking that her sister is right.
It wasn’t entirely everyone because one commenter said she ain’t the a hole for going aginst the sister wishes
I wonder if lucy was an unplanned pregnancy or maybe an affair child.
Or maybe Lucy was just defiant, difficult, acted out, and was just an unpleasant pain in the arse.
@@kitkakitteh Yeah, I was wondering about that. OP doesn't know the real story, just that sis was always fighting with parents. Parents don't try to keep OP from sis but sis tries to keep OP from parents. Whoever gives the ultimatum is likely the bad guy.
the BS part is that people on the sub have a wired value system of what is wrong. Op knows the truth but dosen't want to admit it, her sister is just a POS. people need to understand, GOOD Parents reward GOOD ACTIONS AND ETC. This is why i hate the "golden child" BS. It became the new " you're a goodie two shoes" insult. Lucy had the nerve to demand OP kiss her rotten a** after years of being a bully.
Deadbeat mothers never get the blame they deserve, and she’s 100% paying less child support than a man would be. Disgusting.
Hearing XO crack up at 9:08 truly makes me laugh. XD
XO wheezing at 9:07 had me ROARING with laughter. I absolutely LOVE IT when he cracks up
Thief Daughter: I say send her to Dear Ol' Dad. Let him watch his stuff disappear.
Last story
NTA she is neglecting her son. She deserves to be called out. She is NOT a good mother at all.
And the YTA commenter needs to stay in their lane. For OP to only have contact with her sister sparsely yet the favoritism is clear at her distance is telling.
@@lorilancaster5917 Ik. What the héçk. I can tell when strangers online are neglectïñg their kids bc it’s obvious. And the proof is all in receipts in the family group chat of her only ever prioritizing one of her kids.
Also I feel like she needs to pay OP back for those un-used concert tickets. That was horrible. Wasting money like that shouldn't go unpunished. The very least she could've done was ask if anyone else wanted to take the kid or if it was okay to transfer/gift them to someone who would use them, or at least informed the OP so the OP could try to find someone for them.
Daughter in that story sounds like a kleptomanic. I had a flatmate who was like that - stole odd things and hid them in her room. She was infuriating to live with.
And dad probably encourages it.
@@GiordanDiodato Something's going on. Maybe she should spend a month or two at dad's full time, we'll see if he starts losing stuff too. Eventually (if she hasn't already) she's going to be stealing at school or at stores and get caught, then it's going to get interesting. Oh, and the current therapist is an idiot too. My armchair psychologist guess is it's a coping mechanism for stress/anxiety, an attempt at being in control, or there's some other childhood trauma. Whatever it is, she needs to get handled.
Story 1: look it’s possible the parents did play favorites, and it’s possible that Lucy might be playing the victim. It’s not like this is the first story where it could’ve gone either way. But we don’t know, and more importantly, OP not even sure. Maybe she should IDK, I don’t know her backstory or if it was obvious or not.
But what I do know is sis can’t have it both ways. Lucy can’t acknowledge OP had nothing to do with the issues between her and their parents and then tell her to pick her side. And keep in mind this is one phone call after years of NC, immediately after an apology. maybe give OP some time to process, and talk to her before the ultimatum and demands.
I dunno, to me it sounds like Lucy was used to being the only kid and wasn't properly prepared for OP's impending arrival. She reacted negatively to OP's existence, which would explain her screaming at OP when she was littler and doing god only knows what else.
There is also possibility that when Op sister was born they were poor and working all the time but by the time Op was born they weren’t and had more time for Op and her sister felt like a victim and acted out and things snowball from there
Last op needs to keep being involved with that kid, everyone clutching their pearls are so annoying
10:33 She *_is_* a thief.
10:35 Cool, dad: _take_ her. Good luck...
Omg! I absolutely adore your laugh! Dyin over the klepto story! 😂
The little thief: Neuropsychotherapist here. The therapist is indeed useless. This is about a feeling of scarcity, real OR imagined. The telltale action is that she will use OP's shampoo and conditioner before using her own brand new shampoo and conditioner. Basically, she's resource hoarding. She absolutely needs a good Therapist. Not a counselor or Licensed Clinical Social Worker, sorry, but this is a psychological issue that needs to be addressed now because living in scarcity mode is a horrible experience and most people will write her off as a thief. Period. But, remember, the feelings of scarcity need not align with any actual scarcity of resources.
Your explanation makes me wonder if she’s ever been in foster care. Certainly not the only reason, just a knee jerk reaction. I assume she didn’t go through the Great Depression 😉 which triggered a lot of hoarding in people of that era.
I had to horde clothes,food and even stole them because at home we didn't have anything, or rather,,I was overlooked always, but my sis got a whole refrigerator full of food&new clothes, because "she was special", because she was sick when born.. the disparity between us was so huge,that my grandparents tried to intervene,but my mom cut off contact between us.. I was thrown out at 15,and had to learn to take care of myself. My mom said to everyone that I was the problem child,and never did anything right. Now as a mom myself, I could never treat any of my kids differently.. "my mom", used to say to me that I look too much like my dad,and that she hates him.. what a nice thing to say to a child . Some people don't deserve to be parents!! Now I'm so much happier,and have an amazing supportive husband&his family! Never Knew that life could be so great!
@@minnarosenqvistmr Man, makes me wonder about the judgments on that story where one stepsister had a big allowance while the other stepsister had practically nothing, and everyone was just going "that girl needs to learn that life's not fair and to stop whining about it." Wonder how easy it is to ingrain a feeling of scarcity that results in lifelong psychological damage...
@@Arkylie yeah,I remember that one too. It's so wild, to think that some parents are this awful..
But why would she stole things she could and would never use like baby stuffs or too too small clothes?
It's hard to get the full picture from Story 1, as OP should probably speak to family members or friends other than the parents to find out what happened with lucy during their childhoods with a more objective lens. But either way, Lucy is severely damaged and has somehow learned to be manipulative, and not in a good way. It's probably the parents' fault, although there's a possibility of mental unwellness that started early, what some people would label a "born bad" situation.
Given the age gap, the sister was probably spoiled rotten by the parents. Then OP came along and how dare she be born and get the parents' attention. OP's birth probably showed the parents the entitled monster they created, but it was too late to reverse their poor parenting. It's also possible that the sister was always strong willed and the parents tried their best to raise her right.
@@buckeyenative1365 this is sadly, probably likely. A number of years ago there was a story on the (US TV channel) news about how a young boy killed (or nearly killed, I forget) his baby sister, and the boy reportedly said, "I don't want a sister! I don't want a sister! EVERYBODY LOVES HER MORE THAN ME!"
@@buckeyenative1365 I also know a few people who had some issues with siblings who realized that while they can't force the parents to do things, they'd target the younger kid and make their lives hell when they're angry with the parents...the parents punish them for being assholes, sibling gets more angry and doubles down on their target.
If they don't realize why their being punished, and realize it's them fucking up the issue spirals.
You have a "Sure, the other kid is treated better, but it's because they were being dicks rather than being punished for their own stupidity.
Story 2: their daughter has only seen them three times in four years and he openly abandoned them. Because she has a new baby, and her husband couldn’t force OP out or make them call him daddy. But yeah, it’s OP’s fault the kids don’t see their half sibling🙄.
But you know they have to blame OP, how are they gonna sleep at night knowing they raised a deadbeat that picked her new family over her kids without needing to. They need to get La La Land, OP doesn’t owe them anything and doesn’t need to be concerned with the little girl who has both her parents in her life.
I do hope OP informs the court about ex in-laws bs because I see there next step filing for grandparents rights so they can force OPs kids to be with them instead on holidays
15:09 nti. Everyone knows, but pretends they don’t, so that they don’t have to feel guilty about NOT SAYING ANYTHING
Last OP literally shared stories of neglect, allowed bullying, and favoritism. The first redditor, skips every bit of that, and says OP has no idea.
Beyond Infuriating.
LITERALLY!!! The choir director asked OP to attend more events and the sister "forgot" to take him to the symphony (but didn't forget to ask people for money for the other son), but OP is just assuming???
That one commenter in the last story was out of their mind! OP had just laid out what she knew of her nephews' neglect and the commenter made up 'once or twice a year' out of thin air!!!! Grrr
I'll bet it's OP'S sister posting
One of the worst
Reddit tropes is that when a man writes a story,
Especially a husband/father Redditors will assume or invent information in their own heads so they can shade the man as abusive or neglectful. “She cheated to escape you” etc. in the last story, there’s the reverse of that effect, a misandrist wants a woman to be innocent so badly, they intentionally ignore information that was prominent in the story. “She texts about Jackson all the time in the group chat, makes sure she has all his needs covered even if she has to beg, never mentions ethan.” That’s not an assumption that’s a fact with a text log to prove it. It would be treated as a written document in court, the Reddit women can’t be wrong brigade can’t take it tho, so it’s easier for them to go, “wow assumptions! Wow!”
It's reddit. Everyone "reads between the line". And just as sexist to women too. If a woman breaks up with a guy because he's an asshole, she's automatically "cheating" and "for the streets"
XO's wheeze is killing me 😂
Story 2: For crying out loud you do not get to make demands of other parents, period. They raised a deadbeat and can't face it.
Klepto story: I’m wondering as well how is she when she’s with her dad, if she not doing it to him, then this could be a whole different story, unless in a weird way dad is teaching her so he can piss off mom
The CLEPTO is acting ignorant n needs a reality chk. My kids wouldn't let thier sibs get away with this bs
XO just laughing at klepto daughter made me giggle
S1: Comments sure like to jump to conclusions based on nothing. OP has no basis on which to judge her sister’s relationship with their parents. Sis was 9 when OP was born. Whatever their relationship was and is, there is zero reason for it to impact OP’s relationship with her parents.
Exactly. We have no idea how the sister was raised because OP doesn't even know. All we know is that OP's sister I'd making an unreasonable demand.
Always keep the giggles and laughs
Second story. Start taking her things. I laughed like the narrator
As the supposed “golden child” in my own family, I believe OP’s sister was angry about the different treatment between older and younger siblings. Sometimes when parents have their first kid they weren’t. Ready. to say the least. And her sister took her grudge out on OP instead of the parents. My sister did that. I will never forget her telling me that I ruined her childhood because she was parentified but that it was okay because she forgave me.
It may not even be a golden child/scapegoat situation. My sister is 8 years younger than me. We were treated very differently growing up. First, it was because of the big age difference, and later, because she was the only one at home by the time she was 13 and all the resources originally split between 4 kids was all available for her.
I was never mistreated, I just had age appropriate chores that she didn't have. My mom also went through an empty nest phase because 3 of her chicks flew the coop in a single year. So, she tried to keep my sister "the baby" for as long as possible. I was never jealous of that and felt like my sister didn't enjoy the same freedom that I did because my mom was so focused on her. I guess I could have been a different type and viewed the extra attention and more clothes etc that my sister got as something unfair to me, but frankly, I was very happily becoming an adult and making a life for myself.
It's possible the sister was a narcissist and didn't get along with anyone. The OP doesn't have any good memories of her sister, and that seems very odd. I have tons of memories of me and my little sister. She was my shadow as a toddler, she was my biggest fan when she was in elementary school, by the time I could drive I loved taking her places with me and when she became an adult we became best friends. My parents have different relationships with each of us because we are all very unique individuals, and that doesn't mean bad, just different.
9:09 XO, I love your laugh. AG is so lucky to have a wonderful gentleman like yourself. And you lucky to have a high class lady like her 🙃✨🤍
Wait, what?? XO and AG are a couple?? :o
For all we know in the first the daughter could have been a huge problem child, which Op was the golden child, maybe Lucy never made it easy on the parents so she’s just feeding her false version due to projecting.
And the yta comments in the last sounds bad parents that don’t like to be called bad parents. Op is right, the sister is a terrible parent
And with a huge gap in their ages, it sounds like there is a possibility for OP not to get the full picture.
I agree about the last story. If sis was going to be so horrid to her affair baby, why keep him?
To say the baby's teether is hers is insanity
Whenever I hear you laugh, I wish could read to the kids for reading hour!! I can only imagine you reading The Three Billy Goats Gruff!!
Might of given him a new idea for a channel.
@@CouncilEstateRachstory time with XO
First story, as someone who is the golden child and is currently low contact with parents, OP is a bit clueless with the "i dont know whos right because parents say this but sister says this". Like if your sister is saying they made her the scapegoat and you the golden, of course you're going to have a better experience. At the same time, the siater definitely has no right to demand OP cut off the parents in solidarity, im suspicious of the supposed therapy or the sister isn't taking the therapy advice as shes supposed to and trying to get some sort of compensation she feels owed. Its hard to know the real story, if OP really wants the truth they should see if theres a third party unbiased source to corroborate any claims the sister made and open their eyes, or find out the sister is full of it
Story 1: NTA for not wanting to cut off the parents for Lucy's sake. I do wonder what actually went down in the house though, sometimes you do get a golden child situation, sometimes the people throwing out the term "Golden Child" were either poorly behaved and saw the other kid as the "golden child" because they weren't getting punished for...not being poorly behaved or just jealous of their sibling. Hell there was a reddit story where the OP called their sibling the golden child because their parents gave their younger sibling hand me downs, there was a also double digit age difference so those were *old* hand me downs too.
Eh, considering the age gap, it's far more likely (to me at least) that Lucy was mad that OP existed; note this is largely because Lucy basically tells her "I know I blamed you for everything, but-"
Story 1: sometimes there is no Golden Child: there’s only an easy child, and one that had developmental difficulties and acted out against the whole family. The relationships are going to be very different.
Story 1: NTA. You can't ask someone for reconciliation and make demands at the same time. Lucy isn't wrong for cutting their parents off but OP has no obligation to do the same. Doesn't sound at all like Lucy is making progress in therapy and is trying to use OP to hurt them.
Yes, Keep on laughing XO Stories, we love it!! 😊👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
1st story: We are missing part of the story here. As a parent myself and many friends with children, all children don't grow up to be the same. Their are some that grow to be gentle and giving and some grow up just bad inconsiderate azz wipes. You can't always blame it on the parent. Yes a lot of their behavior is learned but I've seen with my own eyes good parent just having a hard time raising their child. I'm not in any way excusing the sisters parents at all but, for her to say, I'm doing better so, WE need to cut off our parents to make me feel good is crazy. She's NOT doing better at all. That's just manipulative, period.
I love it when in the middle of the story in the narrator starts laughing😂😂😂
Story #1: Redditors are wild, sometimes. Look, it's really pretty simple - OP's sister was nasty to OP when they were children and now wants OP to cut off their parents. The fact that OP has a good relationship with their parents only simplifies OP's awareness that the sister hasn't grown out of being a bully, therapy or no therapy. It really doesn't matter whether or not OP's parents treated the older sister poorly. The sister never bothered to foster a healthy relationship with OP and ignored OP for years. Now she wants to issue an ultimatum that would cut OP off from family members with whom OP actually has a good relationship (thus isolating OP), in favor of her *maybe* offering a better sibling relationship than previously instead. Not at all surprised OP peaced right out of that.
Lucy asks too much for a shallow prize. If she wanted a relationship with OP, she’d have one regardless. Op made the right decision; don’t be a pawn in someone else’s game.
And the ultimatum of “get rid of the parents who loved you for a possible relationship with someone who hated and resented you and may still” isn’t the prize she thinks. Even then the clincher that it’s a maybe on a relationship with her if OP obliges
Nta in story 1. While it’s true that golden children exist it’s a term that’s thrown around a lot when it’s not true. I’m sure my sister would swear I was the golden child but in reality it was the opposite. She was gifted one and I was the average one. But she didn’t stay gifted and since I did better in life I was the golden child. 🙄
The thief child would not be staying in my house while they are doing that to their siblings. It is unacceptable to inflict this crap on their siblings, or tell them they need to do something to keep their things from being stolen. It puts the responsibility on the wrong child. The thief is the problem, not the victims of the thief, for Pete's sake.
Massive amounts of therapy with a new psychiatrist or psychologist needs to happen asap. Whether resource theft/guarding or kleptomania, this issue is serious. If the op and the kid's dad don't pull out all the stops now, their daughter will end up in jail someday.
When Op ex threatened to take full custody of the thieving daughter I kinda wished she let him because there is 1 of 2 likely outcomes either her daughter stops being a thief or her ex finally understands what Op was going through
Sounds like op doesn't discipline at all. That daughter is going to be a nightmare in the future. Gentle parenting does not work
She wasn't a scape goat. Lucy was lazy, lying, entitled... That's not a good person.
OP grew up being treated like crap by her. Why would OP cut them off for her bully?
Just because they say that about your sister now doesn't mean they treated her poorly.
My parents treated my sister like the golden child and I was always the one that got in trouble for her actions. If you ask her she will tell you I'm the favourite. Why? Because when she finally moved out my parents finally gave me attention and we developed a relationship when I was 14. She despises them because I was the favourite and dismisses any mention of how she was treated better and got things I didn't as a child. Don't let reality get in the way of a good story. Some people just like to be the victim.
The last story, did the first 2 commenters not read the story? OP's sister obviously favors her older son instead of treating both boys equally. The oldest is constantly being suspended from school for bullying his brother and it sounds like he doesn't get grounded or anything for it at home. OP's sister didn't even bother to check on Ethan when he was throwing up, she didn't even take him to the hospital when he broke his hand, yet according to Reddit, OP is the AH for actually caring about Ethan. From what OP has posted, it's clear that there is favortism. I hope OP stays in Ethan's life, is there for him, etc OP is NTA. Oh and Sara deserved to be called out for being a terrible parent. She doesn't deserve Ethan.
Agree on all points
I've said this several times, but I really love that XO doesn't do the usual reddit reader thing of including his own thoughts, he just reads the story and a few NTA and YTA comments. Nice and simple, great to listen to while im home alone.
But holy shit when you break professional reader mode and can't help but chuckle while reading something ridiculous honestly hilarious 😂
OP: My daughter is really great. Sure, she's a thief and a liar but other than that small thing honestly she's great!
Me: Yeah, no, I don't believe you.
"and she now takes _both of them"_ - cue XO wheezing laughter... cue me wheezing with laughter.
Story 2, Your so called family courts in action. NTA! Screw these people.
YTA???? why should she cut off her parents? it was the sister who was abusive to her. you only cut off family if you absolutely need to. she does not even know if it was her parents at fault. NTA. she knows the sister is abusive and has a good relationship with her parents. i think she would be a moron to cut off her parents.
And they also accused OP of witnessing sister’s abuse by the parents and did nothing? First off there is a huge age gap between OP and older sister so that can hinder what she remembers. Second, her parents told her that sister was problematic and based on the interaction OP and sister had recently, it’s easy to see the parents side to be more accurate
@lorilancaster5917 Yeah, 9 years. Chances are the earliest memories OP had of her were as a 4 year old and the sister was gone by the time she was 9. There's not much OP can do at those ages.
Parents got things wrong with Lucy maybe missed a mental health issue but what therpist tell someone get you’re sister to cut parents off then you two can be happy without knowing op side ? Sounds like Lucy is still lying and manipulative
S1: there is almost a 10yr age gap between the siblings. I'm willing to bet the OP's sister acted out not being the only child anymore. I don't think there was a golden child/scapegoat dynamic between the siblings she's probably just an entitled asshole
Agree and also Op parents might have been living paycheck to paycheck first few years
I hate thieves. But the girl constantly stealing stuff just to leave it in her room to disappear and never be touched again, or stealing other people's things when she has her own that she never uses, makes me think she has a mental problem with impulse or hoarding or whatever.
Her theft doesnt sound malicious, rather like an addiction. Regardless Id still be pissed by her stealing, and itd be a great day when she gets the help to stop it.
So even if the sister’s claims are true, she has no right to demand OP cuts off her parents. Why should OP do that? The sister is a fool!
OP is NTA ... 'Lucy' treated OP like shit and she's supposed to cut her parents off at her sisters 'demand' ... no ... Lucy sounds like she needs more therapy and OP needs to go LC or NC with her. Sounds like the parents just gave Lucy what she deserved growing up.
Daughter that steals- mom is playing the wrong game. She should go into her daughters room and start hiding her stuff lol
S1: NTA
Reason: While Lucy is well within her right to cut her parents off, she DOES NOT have that same right to tell OP to do the same.
ETA: Given their age gap, its fare more likely that Lucy was used to having Mom and Dad's undivided attention , and when Op came along .... well all hell broke loose.
- I'm sorry, but not even a THERAPIST would recommend that Op does what Lucy demands as it benefits no one but Lucy.
-- "In order for us to continue our relationship as sisters, you MUST cut off our parents who've been nothing but good to you but TERRIBLE to me!" Is one of the most selfish things I've ever heard.
Also, the YTA comment is not the win they think it is. There is an almost ten year age gap between Lucy and OP. It's not at all impossible to believe that Lucy would be rude to OP or their parents, entitled, lazy, or a general disappointment! ESPECIALLY when the parents would want Lucy to do something with the fam!
The real question was Op really the golden child ? Or what the sister really just mad at OP’s presence and had jealousy and was normal? Depending on the person, which children are people with their own thought process and emotions, and while Reddit believes we’re all can be modeled to our parents will with “ love,” some kids will not . Just like some people are naturally jealous of everything they don’t have or won’t have, she took things too far and acted out, and people got sick of her shit. Or maybe they’re monsters who the f knows . But regardless, it’s very entitled for OP’s sister to just assume that OP will cut off her parents, aka the only source of love she’s ever gotten out of this family due to sisterhood, right ? Naw, OP’s right… nta
Agree I doubt that Op was a golden child and more that she wasn’t causing trouble like her sister
1. NTI. It is a completely unreasonable to ask you to cut off parents you get along with. If she was really "healing" she would not ask this of you. If her therapist thought that was a good idea she needs a new therapist.
XO make an 4 min edit with the narrator laughing please
*gasp* bloopers! 😂
Let me guess, the mother did not want to be a parent, but when new hubby came along and the kids refused to cll new hubby dad, she ended up giving him his own kid to shut him up?
She's probably intimidated by dad so she doesn't steal from him.
I absolutely adore your giggles XO. You have got to be the worlds most adorable man in that 9:06 moment!
Story 1 I wouldn't want ky siblings to have contact woth my parents either. If I put my parents on an info diet, they will pester and beg anyone and everyone for the info. Including my own children. The sister sounds absolutely healed and is asking to have support. And the OP isn't willing to give it. Sis needs to find her own family.
Get a new therapist that specializes in kleptonania.
Yes because a good child therapist is so easy to find
Perhaps but Op can try another and odds are she will find better than current one
Yeah. My older sister was a monster. But she sure played the victim like a champ.
1-NTA. Your sister either isn't in therapy or needs a different therapist and F the first commenter! 2-NTA F your ex's relatives! You need to ltalk to your lawyer and have him explain it to the relatives that they will lose any contact if they continue that BS! 3-NTA What the commenters said! 4-YTA! Ethan does need you in his corner, I hope you continue to support him.
With the information provided in the first story no one knows the truth. It could be that the parents did parent her properly but not all children grow up model citizens. Lucy could well have turned out exactly as the parents stated so to describe anyone here as the AH or otherwise is a nonsense. Ask other family members to get a better knowledge of what actually is the truth, I suspect it is a bit of everything but perception will always vary with each beholder! Bottom line is OP gets on with the parents so why consider giving that up particularly with OP’s own recollection of treatment by her sister. Based on that information I would go NC with the sister.
I bet ya the mom in story II will come back the moment they’re old enough to babysit
Love when the narrator breaks character to laugh😂
Story 1-YTA.
Parents sound like AHs.
They treated the other kid like crap while the golden child was treated with respect
Story 1: I gotta be honest, i don’t give 2 craps if Op’s parents WERE toxic, most normal people don’t bully their sibling their entire life, then come back and say “hey cut off our parents if you want a relationship with me” …does that sound like something an abused child would say…?
NTA Op this is ridiculous
Boundaries are limits we put on ourselves, control is limits you put on others. If sisters wanted to reconcile, a reasonable boundary would be “don’t push me to reconcile with parents or bring them around me”.
Story 3, sounds like the daughter is a kleptomaniac. Taking things & insisting the things are her’s is classic kleptomania signs. OP needs to get her daughter a new therapist ASAP. If the ex doesn’t think the child is a thief & shouldn’t be treated as one he can take custody of her & experience the little thief stealing all his stuff.
Sticky fingers: “ my daughter’s great” STEALS EVERYTHING 😂
Older sibling are not jealous when there is unfair treatment by the parents. The parents just want to be known as good parents and lie a out the truth.... if the child who is upset complains and speaks put, its not about jelousy and shows who the parents are. Its not the other kids job to support that sibling when demanded
S1 Everyone sucks. Obviously the parents suck. You don’t ask someone to cut their parents off. But Jesus OP acting like the parents poop gold is just stupid. And saying “they won’t do this to my kids” is a gamble I wouldn’t risk taking.
Now that's what I call projection.
Like sorry your parents suck but most parents are pretty solid, or at the minimum their adult children have the intelligence and maturity to understand that nobody is perfect.
Ok, Happy Hare.
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I live for xo laugh
S1. NTA. I get a feeling that the sister became jealous when OP was born. She was probably spoiled until OP was born and acted out on it.
S3. YTA. OP needs to realize that she is the parent. There is no way in heck any child of mine would act like this. Conversations don't help. There is something called discipline. Let the father take custody of her. Let him deal with her thieving self.
S4. NTA. The sister is a terrible mother. If I were OP, I would contact CPS. And keep in touch with the boy. Hell, I might just try to take him away from her.
Yeah, with story 3 i do wonder what punishments the daughter has gotten other than therapy and being told not to do it again.
Story 1: withholding judgment. Something's missing.
Like op said? NTA.
Story 1: NTA and op isn’t in the wrong .
Story 2; NTA in the slightest
OP is trash
2 deadbeat mom, call me cynical but I think the reason they want the kids to bond is so they can foster the halfsister unto op when ex is done with being mom again and dad does not want to do it alone and the grandparents don't wanna raise another kid.
You grew up in the same house but did not have the same parents. You called yourself the golden child. My dad was also lazy and a disappointment as his parents said as they took turns holding his head under water.
S1) So the Golden Child OP won't condemn her monster parents who have given her everything??? Why just imagine that. Three guesses who's in the sheeity parents Will to inherit everything??? First two don't count.
Everyone is blaming Lucy......who is the Child that got abused by her parents fawning over Golden Child OP. Lucy the Child lashed out......imagine that. She was angry and alone and hurt and confused and lost because she didn't know why her parents now hated her. And you people are blaming Lucy??? Ya'll suck. Just like Golden Child OP and her parents. And her supposed 'parents' that abandoned her for Golden Child OP made it worse. Then labeled Lucy the 'bad one' and lavished Golden Child OP more as the 'good one'.
OP knows she is the Golden Child, but let's blame Lucy anyway. Lucy is better off without this AH 'family'.
Eh, Lucy could be lying. Also, when you don’t maintain a relationship with someone, why would you be included in the will?
1: YTA...hopefully you & your parents are not long for this world!!
The thieving klepto spawn isn’t as funny as narrator thinks.