WORLDS BEST CHAINSAW TUTORIAL! EVERYTHING You Need to Know About Owning and Operating a Chainsaw!
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2024
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00:00 Intro
02:01 Gas & Oil
07:43 Reading The Bar
08:53 Installing The Bar
13:19 Chain Break/Sights/Dogs
16:07 Starting The Saw
20:07 Warming Up The Saw
22:04 Flooding The Saw
24:23 Chaps
28:14 Felling A Tree
38:56 Tension vs Compression
44:42 Pushing vs Pulling The Chain
46:12 Kickback/Plunge Cutting
50:23 Throwing The Chain
52:05 Perfect Firewood
53:50 Avoiding The Dirt
57:21 Sharpening The Chain
01:09:36 Cleaning The Saw
01:14:57 Storing The Saw
01:17:36 Outroe 
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I’m 16, probably with less than year of experience with chainsaws, and this video taught me ALOT, also showed me how many things I was doing wrong and how unsafe I was being, thank you a lot for this video and keep up the great work!
I had an oak limb, about 5 inches wide, snap out of the top of a tree that I was cutting. I didn't even have enough time to move, so I tried to duck my head down and reduce the chance of getting an even worse injury. It caught the side of my head, right behind my ear, as well as my shoulder and across my back. I walked away from it with my head and right shoulder ripped open and a damaged muscle in my back. If I had a helmet, I wouldn't have had a gash on my head, and if I had been paying closer attention, I probably wouldn't have been in that situation to begin with. PPE and situational awareness are two of the most important things no matter what you're doing.
Important to remember when buying small amounts (1 or 2 gallons) of ethanol free gas is that stations that use multiple types of fuel that use a single hose will have up to 1 or 2 gallons of whatever the last use was in the hose system! You may think you are getting ethanol free, but it may not be the case. I always pump a few gallons into vehicle tank and then fill up smaller containers. Chickanic does a good video on this.
I buy ethanol fuel all the time for my small engines. Never thought to do this. Will be doing this moving forward.
IF YOUR A HOMEOWNER CHAIN SAWER - THIS IS A HIGHLY RECOMENDED SAFTEY TRAINING VIDEO !!!
Having worked in industry for years, I have seen a lot of Safety training videos. I would like to thank you very much for this video. I just bought a new chain saw. Although I have used chains saws over the years occasional , I'm no seasoned pro. I liked your video because It felt like I was taking an effective re-occurring safety training that just might keep from getting hurt. Once again Thank you very much for this "REQUIRED" safety training for the chainsaw newbie. Appreciate it brother
The tip for starting a flooded saw was more than worth my time watching a bunch of stuff that I thought I already knew. Thank you, Jacob.
While I was watching your tutorial and you were emphasizing care needed to prevent kickback. Many years ago a neighbour of mine who was a master carpenter was cutting with a chainsaw in a small community 57 miles north of my town of Wawa. In a split second the chainsaw kicked back and exactly as you said it came across his face. It tore his face up and damaged his eye when it destroyed his tear duct. He was fortunate that they got him to a hospital in my town. His career as a carpenter was over. Kick backs are bad news. Glad you pointed that out. Great tutorial. Still watching it!
Great job teaching the new kids out there. Not everyone uses these things. You, sir, are a recognized expert in you field, and the people who watch this video are getting sound advice.
I appreciate that!
My pleasure sir.@@GuiltyofTreeson
Now that we know how to use a saw, teach us how to Climb! Mad respect to You and how efficient You are when climbing.
Thanks and that’s a good idea 👍
Okay first you chock the wheels of the bucket truck.
Great idea, go over basic climbing gear and how to climb with spikes and a flip line. I’d watch.
Dad always said youre never done learning until you're 5 feet under. I always allreciate watching these because i feel you can always learn something new!
Well they don't say "you live, you learn" for nothing.
Just a quick tip on the ethanol free fuel. If someone used that pump before you, the hose could be full of ethanol fuel. I always put a gallon in my car before filling the gas cans.
Thanks for the tip!
Does everything pump through the one hose in USA? We have different hoses for different octanes and deisel here
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Some places do pump ethanol fuel and non-ethanol fuel through the same hose & nozzle. Some places have dedicated nozzles for the non-ethanol fuel. You have to keep an eye out for this. If they do use the same nozzle, it is a good idea to pump the first gallon or so, into your car first, then fill the gas can that you use for the saw. You never know what grade of fuel the person before you put into their car, and the hose and switchover valve inside the pump might be, most likely, filled with ethanol fuel.
@@warped2875 very interesting
A tip for fueling up: use a small brush to clear debris from the cap areas. A laundry detergent bottle with a pour spout will make filling up the oil tank easier.
For most homeowners looking to purchase a saw to use a few days per year, I recommend getting a battery saw. Milwaukee, Dewalt, Makita, or whatever brand you might already have is a good choice. Avoid the super cheap knockoff brands or used saws from a stranger. What might seem like a good deal will likely lead to a lot of frustration later.
Excellent video. A true complete guide to how to use a chainsaw.
When it's flooded and you hold it wide open it will start because your introducing a huge volume of air to rectify the issue of having too much fuel. Great video !
Bro how disrespected. 😂 Your viewers clearly have a clear and advanced understanding of chainsaws and tree work! We are youtube certified! Haha.
He literally said in the beginning for homeowners and younger generations getting into cutting.
@Dale.Nienow This is my and I am insulted! I have been youtube certified for a whole 3 months! I have bought my Chinese WEMARS 6220g, and ryobi 40v top handle. I am a certified pro-fessionAL. 😂 Nah, this is actually really cool. This is probably the best how to videos for chainsaws. I had to look up a bunch of different videos when I learned how to use a chainsaw and take down trees. I've only taken down one big(18inch) one so far, but a lot of smaller ones(4inch).
@@Agustin-jo8mvthanks man 👊
@@GuiltyofTreeson You've taught us all so much! Haha. Thank you!
Very good video.. you are very good to explain….
you never thought about teaching your profession at arborist school (I don’t know what this course is called in 🇺🇸) lol
You just produced the best chainsaw video on RUclips! Great stuff as always Jake. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
We have a little over 100 acres of forest as a side hustle but we've always let a company do the lumbering. But now I got a little interested in doing some hobby felling.
Great intro tutorial! I will sign up for a professional course to get the hang of it in practice.
As im sure others have already said flooding an engine is caused from to much gas in the cylinder it actually soaks the spark plug preventing proper ignition. Holding the throttle open allows air into the cylinder this helps to dry the cylinder/plug but also corrects air fuel ratio allowing the engine to run. I really enjoy your watching climbing and felling in the south we don’t climb much mostly done from a bucket
I always use the between the legs method for starting ever since I had a near brush with disaster drop starting.
Here in the Netherlands we use Aspen 2 stroke fuel for chainsaws and garden tools. because it is already 50:1 fuel and you can keep it in your tank for a long time without any problems.
Not all of us 😊, I use the blue stihl stuff and 98😂
@@cdb6010 where do you live? Also in the Netherlands?
Excellently done. What a wonderfully comprehensive tutorial! You don't just lecture -- you demonstrate every single point you make. Thank you!!!
I no longer own a chainsaw. I am so physically broken I have a hard time just trying to grocery shop. I'll probably never cut another tree down before I leave this world. Am I going to watch a 1:18:50 chainsaw tutorial video? Absolutely. Plus, I'm gonna like it before I watch it. I know I'm gonna like it but also know I'll forget to hit the like button. Keep doing what you're doing.
I said a prayer asking for you to feel better. What happened to you?
God bless you!
I have been watching how you go about doing your chainsaw routine. We both like to spill gas and don't use a funnel for chain oil.Great beginner instruction.
That is a great video to learn how to own/operate a chainsaw. Thank you for teaching and helping to reiterate how to properly use a chainsaw. One thing beginners need to know on saws especially stihl saws is that when you put it at half choke the saw is going to be running at a high rpm and it only takes 30 seconds at full throttle to destroy a chain break so when the saw starts to rev on half choke immediately blip the throttle so that the rpms go down. This is one of the best beginner tutorials out there in my opinion.
I have been watching lots of wood cutting /splitting videos for many years including yours from your previous chanel to now, here in the UK and cutting and processing my own wood for 11 years. I have never commented on any of them, as much as I enjoyed them, but I have to say that even though I feel I know a lot, I learned something useful from every stage of this video. Great for all levels of experience. Well done, a great recourse for the wood cutting community!
Great video. I’ve been cutting firewood for 35 years and still learned something new. Keep up the good work and happy upcoming holidays.
Very good tutorial! Thanks! I have the 455 Rancher myself. Just bought two new Oregon chains for it today. It's nice to see a tutorial using the exact equipment I have!
I like the 455 Rancher. I also looked at the 460, but it's heavier and i didn't really need the 24" bar it comes with. I bought the 455 because I had to cut up a big fallen oak and a big pine that it knocked over when it came down after it was struck by lightning last summer. Both trees ended up lying right across my long driveway through the woods. I didn't even know it had happened, but my wife called me when she came home and found that the driveway now disappeared into those big fallen trees! I got a lot of firewood from them, but it was most of a week of work for me to cut everything up and stack all of the wood and clean up the area. I needed the exercise anyway!
Truth be told I have to thank you for your video's as cutting down very large standing dry oaks has always been very sketchy for me, but through your video's I have learned how to aim, different cut's, how the hinge works and the importance of wedges when felling. I wanted that 455 rancher, but it was not available when I needed a saw so I purchased the 460 as that was the only Husqvarna available at that time without having to wait. A good saw just a little large and heavier when beginning. Thanks again.
As a woodturner I get access to quite a few logs from local tree surgeons. I need to cut them up to store to allow to dry. In have been using a small electric chain saw to chop smaller branches around 6 to 7 inches in diameter. I am moving up to larger bowls (15 inches diameter ) and as such now need a more powerful chainsaw and longer bar . I have just purchased a petrol chainsaw with 20 inch bar. But in respect of how dangerous it could be have embarked on a lot of video watching to educate myself on the correct and more importantly safe use before I start. I have viewed several videos on you tube but your video has provided so much comprehensive iniformation, instruction and guidance, delivered in an easy to understand way. I will refer back to it again and again in the future. Thank you for making such a superb video. It has helped a great deal.
I've only seen one other "How To"... and this video is Hands THE BEST.
You covered absolutely everything that someone should know about using a chainsaw!!
Great video
I'm getting to be an old guy and have been cutting firewood my whole life. I still learned a lot from you - maybe I have been doing it wrong the entire time. Thank you for the great attitude. You should know that some of us also laugh at ourselves.
Great tutorial. I’m definitely not a pro, but I’m not a beginner either, and I learned a lot from this. I especially liked the maintenance portion. Thanks Jacob!
This was so helpful. Explained every problem I've had as a rank beginner. Using a chainsaw went from frustrating to so smooth. Thank you!
Love the video, you did a great job discussing the subject. I didn’t realize I have ethanol free gas around me, I used to use premium with stabilizer. Thank you so much for what you do. Great for us armchair climbers.😊
Ethanol free is hard to find around the Pen in the Belfair area. Wish more stores offered ethanol free.
amazing video. thank you! I feel much more confident before making my first cut. Yep, I haven't used one yet. Wish me luck and safety.
Thank you for the very very good basics refresher! Been a few years and lots of yelling at home at youtuber fellers drop starting without telling people that its dangerous🤦♀️. Youve done a top rate job!
Your raker gauge is .025, or 25 hundredths. That is how much lower the raker is from the cutting tooth. In your case, you are filing your rakers down .025 lower than your cutters. So that means it will take off .025 of wood each time the cutter hits the wood.
As a homeowner who is over-compensating with my 660... and battery operated climbing saws I thoroughly enjoyed this video and I will stop killing grass with my refueling...
I was about to do the same and pick up a big saw before a buddy talked me into a 180 then I found a 192t for cheap and use that little thing more than anything.
I cut props with cross cut growing up. Got my first chainsaw when I was 14. Homesite zip! Cut timber being instructed by older West Virginia lumber jacks! Caution ! Soo many variables to consider ! Big timber ! Leaning and decaying trunks. Only a few !! Start small , observe, have a path of retreat! There is a reason for bigger professional saws especially in bigger timber ! Next lesson! Good job ! Keep it up!!
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being an old amateur, I had a great time reliving the bad habits I have, and learned a couple of new tips to keep me safe. Rock on!!
I am grateful for your work on RUclips. Thank you!
One guick note on fuel as an ex stihl dealer. Your spot on about the ethanol in today's fuel but occtain does matter. Stihl recommends 92 or better . Also only fill your cans to premix ratio. Most gas cans hold more the stated amount
Also, adding any oil at all to fuel will reduce the octane by a point or two, per bottle. You can start with 91, but by your second mix bottle your octane might actually be 87-89. Use the highest non-ethanol octane available
Thanks for taking the time out to explain the great information on the basics of how to get started and the do and don't! It was very helpful!
A cut above the rest. You really raised the bar with this tutorial. You managed to wedge so much information into a relatively short cut. Unfortunately I had to skip past all the stuff involving the bar because I'm a recovering alcoholic. I'm not gonna lie I was pretty chapped at first. It's hard to relax and kick back with all this bar talk flying past your head. I used to be clinically compressed but after watching your tutorial I realized I was just coming at it from the wrong angle. I've always been a bit tense but thanks to you I've learned to face the tension head on. I'll admit you got a bit pushy in the second half of the tutorial. Hey, you're human. We all hit the dirt at some point but just when it seemed that the tutorial was too dull to go on you hit us with some of the sharpest material yet.
Enjoying your videos. I actually have the 450 Rancher . I have used it a lot over the last year. I have been clearing out the down and leaning trees in my woods or bush as some call it. It has been over 20 years since it had last been done. At least 15 trees so far and a lot more to go.
This video was great! I literally knew almost nothing before cutting down my first tree. And not much more before buying my first saw (out of necessity: big tree fell over in a windstorm mostly blocking my front door). But, one day i found your old channel and have learned so much more! I actually went out to buy wedges! Previously i was using small sticks in the back cut to prevent the tree from pinching my bar... But i was also cutting all the way through the hinge. I cut much more cautious now and use my wedges... I still need to get a decent axe, but it's on my list with some chaps. I actually barely knicked a pair of jeans once 🙀
You did an awesome job on this video....thanks.
I’m so glad you did this, especially using a typical firewood saw.
Great information! As someone that never attempted felling a tree, you shared some valuable information. For those that comment what you “didnt” cover, they gave me more to look up about more details. Keep making these videos, you speak with humility and great knowledge.
Glad it was helpful!
I appreciate how methodical and careful you are here. I’d be interested in a video: “things to look for to DEFINITELY call in the pros”
Good video thanks...👍 I suppose being picky, the more you raise the bar before tightening up the side cover screws, the more out of square your tree felling sight lines will be. Maybe less than 10 degrees in the extreme, but they aren't to be 100% trusted as a true 90 degrees to the cut.
I've only been an amateur home logger user this past 20+ years and use a cheap DIY store small saw, but I keep it sharp, clean and never run out of bar oil and it has done me proud all these years. I just keep an eye on replacing the tubing yearly, cleaning the air filter and only use UK premium unleaded petrol in it. Thanks Jake...👍
Thank you, newbe here. I bought a small one a Lowes. The fella recommended to watch a vid before using. WOW, so glad I did. Not falling trees just cutting branches, 2" diameter ones for fire wood. Very good, sent to my email so I can watch it whenever I need. Still winter here in Alaska, but preparing.
I find this video really helpful for starters. Im 15 and I think i need to learn a lot more but i have 2 very own chainsaws a 462c and a 661c they are great!
Outstanding video for a newbie. Thanks a lot!
I've always been iffy on plunge cuts. Thank you guilty truly thank you! That little tip is a huge huge help
have my first time cutting trees comming up next week so this gives a little confidens boost!
I re-watch this and thank GOT for teaching me tension and compression in a way I didn't forget. Simple. Great tutorial.
Hello from Canada 🇨🇦. There is a clear (thinner) bar oil around for cold weather.
I use my bar to measure or eyeball the cut lenghts for bucking.
I would have gladly paid for this training. I have been homestead cutting for a couple of years. Some of this I learned but the rest was much needed! Thanks...
This video should come with every new homeowner chainsaw.
Great information for the new chainsaw owner.
Thanks 👍
Very comprehensive tutorial and you covered all the important topics of the chainsaw. Nice job! I am a 50-year DIYer chainsawer and it seems I never quit learning about these awesome tools. Only thing I'd add is that I do exactly what you do for long term storage but I run engineered fuel thru it before putting it away (vs keeping it dry) . The engineered fuel lasts two years and keeps the diaphragms lubed. Be sure to buy the 50:1 mix. What kills fuel systems is not only ethanol (minor) but the benzene found in all gas station gas. Benzene is the major killer of fuel systems. Engineered fuel has little/no ethanol or benzene and will not wreck your fuel system. I run gas station fuel when operating the saw (lots cheaper) but store with engineered fuel.
That Husqvarna “roller guide” is only one I have ever used. On new chains before they get used I go a pass or 2 with that guide then get in there free hand. I wanna learn to square file bad. Ole Jed was a master and no matter how many times I watch that video I can’t do it! I can round file great but not square
Definitely a recommended watch for anyone from hobbyist to professional. Alot of small tips and tricks that aren't really taught and only can be picked up from on saw time and experience
Nicely done.
It’s something I can give to my groundies for training before hands on training.
I like all your videos, and I learned how to fell a tree with your tutorial.
Keep up the good work.
Could you do a video for tips and tricks to cutting small trees? Under 16" diameter
I bought rainforest property and now almost have basic experience; including stepping on bee hives.
Thanks for the video, helps me a lot.
Best video I could find. Well explained, well filmed. Thank you very much!
100% AGREE ETHANOL FREE Gasoline ONLY in ALL of my SMALL ENGINES! And I use the oil mix with fuel stabilizer, and I have never had a fuel problem.
A saw is "flooded" when the fuel-air ratio in the cylinder exceeds the combustion range (not enough air/oxygen to burn the fuel). When unflooding, holding the throttle works because at full throttle the carburetor lets in more air in than at Idle, Leaning the over-rich condition back out into the combustion range.
I watched a video about non-ethanol gas. I learned that gas stations, like the one you are using, use the same hose and pump handle as the other ethanol choices. Thus, you pump about 1 gallon of ethanol gas before getting the non-ethanol gas. There are gas stations that have separate hose and pumping handles.
I'm always concerned about this, especially when filling my Harley with Premium fuel on a road trip. All pumps around me - except one I know of 10 miles away - have the single hose arrangement. This burns me as the next guy is getting my expensive premium while I'm getting the last guys regular. But I just looked this up and the American Petroleum Institute says there's only about 1/3 gal in the hose.
Damn, thats not even a thing in Australia, every fuel type has its own nozzle
Always take your petrol container in a petrol car when you go to buy this sort of petrol. Run the first gallon or so into the car, then fill your container. Just good practice.
If your really picky you can also test it for ethanol by adding water to it in a non food glass. Ethanol will separate out
Very well done. Really first rate info, and your sense of humor (whimsy) is contageous.
I have an old Husky 55 (1999) that still runs like a champ. It's punched way above its weight and I joke (or am I joking?) that I want to be burried with it. Starts right up and bingo, I'm in business.
The only thing I think you might have covered is that the cutters are generally sharpened with the bar pointed in opposite directions so you file towards the cutting edge of the cutter.
Oh. Nitpicking, but the raker file gauge you demonstrated was .025, not .25.
You are the man!!! Learned a lot from this. Truly thankful.
Really helpful synopsis, thanks Jake!
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant! Very thorough and clear. Thanks for this
On the choke, when you pull it out, that is full choke. When you push it in is half choke, and pulling the trigger closes the choke. So the high idle is from the half choke. Great info and super easy to understand. Even having been an avid chainsaw guy but being completely self taught, it’s nice to learn something from the pros!!!
The rakes are strange looking because it is a safety chain. They are normally included on home owner chainsaws so you have to tell them you want a real chain not the safety chain. The safety chain cuts a lot slower because it takes a smaller chip but it is also a lot harder to get kick back so it is safer. I didn't know about the safety chains once and ended up with one. I took the chainsaw back because it cut so poorly. He told me about the chains and I bought a good one. Kept the safety chain for an emergency backup but have never put it back on. Love your videos.
I have ran ethanol premium gas in my chainsaws and trimmers for decades without any issues. I just add stabilizer to my 5 gallon container of gas, and then mix a gallon at a time. I have found the vegetable based bar oil to be very thin, and gets used up very fast.
Great video! It is amazing how little dirt can dull the blade. I know from experience.
The 455 Rancher was my first chainsaw. Large enough to do all of the jobs that I wanted to do, yet small enough to still be a good saw to learn on.
I have been told that if I have had to tighten the bar after it has been running for a while to make sure you loosen the bar when you are done an put it up. The reason you have to tighten the chain is because it has heated up and the metal has expanded. Once it cools down, the metal will shrink back down. If you don't loosen up the bar, it will get really tight and wear out your sprocket bearing faster.
Hey there ive been using a saw for 6 to 7 years started when i was 13 14 years old theirs something to learn every day appreciate it man 👊
Great video Jake, way to put a guy down 😂 the 455 is my big saw.
Thanks for helping I found this useful as a homeowner cutting small trees 🌲
This video was extremely helpful and educational. Thank you for your time, effort and sharing…..
I'm using a chainsaw for years, you showed me many things I forgot, thanks for sharing.
I cut alot of wood per year cause I burn wood for heat in michigan and this is the best vedio I have seen to help me cut and sharpen my saw, for sure
I can appreciate how it’s hard for you to make the kickback look as dangerous as it is, since you know it’s coming and you know how to hold the saw to absorb it.
I love the way you refer to the 'Bit of fluff' ie, Balistic-Nylon, out of the sprocket. lol.
Thanks dude! I started using the chainsaw a few months ago, and I learned so much from watching your videos. You seem like a cool dude as well, all the best
That was a great video! Thanks!
Flooding means you have too much gas and not enough air so it can't burn because there's not enough oxygen in the cylinder anymore. You need about 10 parts air to one part gas before correct combustion. Flooded just means there's too much gas. The reason holding down the throttle and turning the choke off is now you are opening up as much air as you can possibly pump into the system at a time. So if you don't want to just wait forever, you can open the throttle all the way and eventually you'll pump out enough of the fuel and get enough air back inside at it will fire up and start. Hope that helps.
I watched the world's best tree felling vid a bunch of times. Your team take turns dropping trees. Sure! when you mention it the name rings a bell.. and at the end you say how you set out to make the worlds best tree felling vid out there. Oh, that was you!
East coast weather is different. It's 1-1 with fuel and bar oil. I'll fuel up but deliberately give extra oil. I'll deal with a saw on empty before I have to fight with an oil starved saw
Haven’t seen your videos for a bit. I am so glad I popped back up as I really enjoy them. Great video
Excellent overview. Thank you.
Flooded means too much liquid gas in the pathway where gas and air enters your cylinder, or even in your cylinder. Your carb or injectors are designed to “spray” gas in a fine mist so it mixes with the air that’s flowing into your saw. Too much gas or not properly “misted” fuel won’t reach the right air/fuel mixture, and floods the motor. Pressing the throttle trigger allows more air to flow, which either pulls the liquid gas through unburned,, or helps the gas mix into the extra air, and get to a state where it will ignite and burn. Waiting lets the gas evaporate. Sometimes. But it still may take a few pulls to fully clear the cylinder out.
I highly recommend to viewers to also watch the video "world's best tree felling tutorial, 8 ways to fell a tree".
I watched a lot of videos on chainsaws and how to fell trees but the amount of knowledge and skills level that you have is truly impressive. As a viewer, you're really learning from a professional. Keep up the good work brother. 👍
This video was incredibly helpful, but i would've loved a short touch up on carburetor adjustment with elevation change and environmental variables. Thank you for making such a helpful video!
I appreciate your time in making these videos and be safe bro
For gas, I always put a few gallons in the truck to get the non-ethanol out of hose. A ratio rite and quarts or gallons of mix are much much cheaper than the pre-measure. Gordy sells ratio rites.