Ho Chi Minh was a nationalist before anything. Communist or Socialist. Ho Chi Minh only wanted Vietnam to be a unified and independent Vietnam. He stood against the French and then U.S in order to accomplish this. He took the communist side because it was the right thing to do in order to accomplish this goal. He never gave up. He went against more than any other human being in that century. and will after all is called Ho Chi Minh City now, Uncle Ho was by far one of the greatest person of that century.
+Royce Leii Wrong. He also supported the Pathet Lao and Khmer Rouge, which proves he was looking for an all-communist Indochina. Taking the communist side WAS NOT the right thing to do, and he killed REAL nationalists who were also opposed to French Colonial rule.
+IzmoMI Well you have to remember that North Vietnam was a very rural and traditional country unlike the South, typically this type of areas tend to be a lot more unified, working class and community oriented. communism is just more appealing to them. but even then of you study the first Indochina war and really look closely at the never ending conflict between France and Vietnam. you will see that Ho Chi Ming indeed was supported by the US. when he gave his big independence speech American flags where flying over him. is not until France broke the treaty and Ho seeks help from the US once more and was IGNORED After pretty much begging for help. but you know who did help?
Royce Leii The only reason we did anything for Ho Chi Minh was because he opposed the Axis in World War II. Ho's support from the USSR pre-dates the Japanese occupation, and he not only attacked the French colonists, but the real nationalists who fought against French colonial rule while he was still in the French Communist Party.
A giant of a man. A hero and beacon to us all. He ended 500 years of foreign occupation of his country. He defeated imperialist America. The Vietnam saga is the most inspiring people's event of the 20th century.
If crushing South Vietnam wasn't the main goal, why didn't he just throw out the communist sympathizers around him and join South Vietnam to create just one vietnam?
@@reis1185 Vietnam is a puppet of the former Soviet Union and the conquerer of freedom in Indochina. The Philippines has not been an overseas possession of the United States since 1946, and was never a "neo-colony."
He was a good man, with his flaws. If he had more power during the end of his life, the Vietnamese party hardliners under Le Duan may not have gained ascendency and made the post-war situation so tragic.
He went to France, the first country he set foot in when he left his homeland, and sought to get the country out of French domination. During that time, around 191x, he always searched but could not find hope because colonialism was too strong. Until the Russian October Revolution succeeded, he found a way to save the country after many years of traveling abroad. Communism was the tool for him and his colleagues to save Vietnam. If you were in that situation, would you choose anything other than Communism?
If there are serious historians who dispute Eisenhower's view I'm unaware of them. About 90,000 VM were evacuated to the North after the partition and many would return South to fight as VC and would be joined by hundreds of thousands of more South Vietnamese. I understand that the North supplied and funded them. What I don't understand is why it is our right to decide which political faction should triumph in a civil war in a country that is not our own.
@@deadchannelgoaway.-kr6tt I think a bigger reason was to set an example for any other country desiring independence from US hegemony... i.e. if you don't march to the beat of Washington's drum, you get bombed to the stone age.
Dear mr. Mike Gardner, I am writing on behalf Vietnamese national television (VTV). During one of our shows which will air on 18th of May 2015, celebrating 125 years since the birth of Háť“ ChĂ Minh, we would like to ask for your permision to use one segment of your CBS report on Háť“ ChĂ Minh's death aired in 1969. We would like to use a segment that starts on 1 minute and 54 seconds and ends on 2 minutes and 40 seconds from your youtube clip (link provided below). We would appreciated so much if you would grant us your aproval to support us. Link: Best regards, Le Bao An
Diem lost his US backing and was assassinated during the US supported coup. I tend to focus on our own actions because, though we are not responsible for the acts of others, we are responsible for the predictable consequences of our own acts. The consequences of us militarily propping up a foreign imposed system on the Vietnamese was one of the great human catastrophes of the 20th century. Roughly 4 million people were killed in that war and Vietnam is still recovering from it.
Ho wanted help from the U.S. but we turned a blind eye. He wanted to set up Vietnam with a constitution similar to our own. I love the U.S. but we should have never been in Vietnam, period!
What I said was that core members of the the VC had been VM. Eisenhower - in his book, 'Mandate for Change' - wrote a different view. Quote: I have never talked or corresponded with a person knowledgeable in Indochinese affairs who did not agree that had elections been held as of the time of the fighting, a possible 80 per cent of the population would have voted for the communist Ho Chi Minh as their leader. This probably explains why the 1956 unification referendum didn't happen.
I don't think we can dismiss Eisenhower's statement about Ho so easily and as I've said, I'm unaware of his views being disputed by historians. Generally, I'd say we miscalculated the support the other side had during this war. In 'The Fog of War' McNamara admitted that, "We underestimated the power of nationalism to motivate a people to fight and die for their beliefs and values." I didn't state anything about the goals of the VC or DRV and I'm aware that the VC didn't have 100% support.
why the king of master mine of politician ended up with poisoned himself ? there is not reasonable basic pushing him to do it . to me i think he still a life by that time.
The Soviets & Chinese didn't have half-a-million troops there. Since the war never had the unanimous consent of its members, it never obtained SEATO authorization. Core Viet Cong members were formerly of the Viet Minh, the indigenous resistance to Japanese and French rule. You and I may have views on how Vietnam should be governed. Our views are totally irrelevant because it is not our country to rule and the same was true for the Japanese, the French, and the Chinese before them.
Ask from his dead victims.this must killer followed his best friends mao,Stalin, killings of total over 100 million.he made Vietnam war zone,made it poorest country,murderous country.he killed over three millions n.same number as polpot killed.gake publicity made him a good man.common sense teach any one this is one of brutal killers of human history.
There were refugees on both sides who faced repression by the regimes they opposed. I pointed out the 90,000 VM refugees to illustrate that the VC was overwhelmingly made up of people from the South. I've not read Herring. Does his view of Ho Chi Minh's popularity contradict Eisenhower's? Which treaty are you talking about? Fundamentally, when did the US become the beneficent protector of Vietnamese sovereignty? Was it when we supported the French in reestablishing their colony?
Vietnam had existed as a cultural entity for thousands of years whereas South Vietnam was created by the French in 1954. The Japanese and French also had noble rhetoric about helping the Vietnamese, which they used to justify their actions. Not murder? We dropped more bombs on Vietnam than we did during all of WWII, resulting in a body count in the millions. All of this to prop up a government imposed on them by the French. We don't have the right to impose governments on other people.
South Vietnam was not created by the French. The partition of Vietnam was created by the United Nations, and the southern government was created by the descendants of the Viet Quoc.
@@DTD110865 Yeah right... we can go through every tedious step and detail in its creation but the fact remains that SVN would never have existed if French colonialism had not established its puppet regime and institutions there.
@@DTD110865 “I have never talked or corresponded with a person knowledgeable in Indochinese affairs who did not agree that had elections been held as of the time of the fighting, possibly 80 per cent of the population would have voted for the Communist Ho Chi Minh as their leader rather than Chief of State Bao Dai.” - Dwight D. Eisenhower It wouldn’t have been a divided country if there had been elections as per the 1954 Geneva Accords. You may not have liked the results but it wasn’t up to you.
@@austin0031 I guess you ignored the fact that Ho Chi Minh stole the anti-colonial revolution back in the 1930's when the Vietminh and Vietquoc teamed up briefly, and then the Vietminh turned on them, You mentioned the ex-members of the Vietminh crossing back into North Vietnam, but ignored the people who had to flee for their lives from the north at the same time. They got to vote in local elections, and the VC used to kill them for it.
George Washington fought against the British occupation of his country. Ho Chi Minh fought against the Japanese, French, and then American occupation of his. As far as "murder and repress(ion)" goes, we were very good at it with our use of carpet bombing, agent orange deforestation, and the corralling of the South Vietnamese into the concentration camps that we called "strategic hamlets".
This unist sympathiser don't understand all this happened because this killer communist tried to make Vietnam communist.his intention was to make Vietnam comunist.thats how it became communist.he made Vietnam poorest in world and a killing field.thanks to capitalism today vietnamese are economicaly progressing.if not capitalism today half of vietnamese dead without food.
Desire for national liberation, bringing happiness to people, who had fought in theoretical research, analysis of revolution in America, France, Russia to draw experiences for Vietnam's revolution. Criteria for evaluating the revolution, according to him, the power after the victory of the revolution and in the hands of people who are enjoying freedom, true happiness or not. These standards are the most concentrated expression of democratic values and human rights. Long live Vietnam-Ho Chi Minh
Nope, HCM was popular throughout the whole country, which is what Eisenhower was admitting. You can check his book and the context of his remarks if you like. Again, the US tried and failed to get SEATO authorized for the war. The RSVN wasn't even a member. I think we're just going in circles here. BTW, I accidentally hit the 'thumbs down" button on your remark above when I meant to hit reply. I didn't mean to do that because I don't rate the comments of people I'm debating.
Well I guess you can dismiss them if you want. But he did have ample resources to inform him on Vietnamese attitudes so I think his was a pretty candid admission. I do believe he was wrong not to press for the '56 referendum whether or not Ho would win. I don't know of historians who dispute that Ho was viewed as a nationalist figure who had resisted colonization. And I don't know of any other nationalist figure more popular than Ho. it is possible to be both nationalist and communist.
The French signed the Geneva Accords, petitioning the country in 1954. They then withdrew but the governmental infrastructure in the south stayed the same as it was under French rule. The country was to be unified in a 1956 referendum but US backed Ngo Dinh Diem refused to permit the elections. Treaties we have signed permit killing for the purpose of self defence. American troops killing Vietnamese in support of a government we impose on them hardly constitutes our self defence.
Not sure if you're still interested after 10 years. It's plausible that he had been in at least one relationship. I'm using "plausible" here because the current official stance of the Vietnamese government states that Hồ Chí Minh remained celibate throughout his life. The one with the most evidences was Zeng Xueming (Tăng Tuyết Minh in Vietnamese), who allegedly lived together with Ho at some point from 1926 to 1927. His letter to her, IIRC, can still be found in a branch of the National Archives in France. Vietnamese columnists and foreign scholars or historians alike (e.g. William Duiker) had digged into this relationship in the past. Nguyễn Thị Minh Khai was seen on paper as a spouse of Ho Chi Minh (under an alias), but this seemed to be more for political purposes than an actual relationship. During this time, she never expressed any intimacy to Ho. Nông Thị Xuân is the most controversial one. Opponents of the communist regime have said that she was the 'lover' of Ho, and even bore him a child. The retelling of their interaction was in a memoir by Vũ Thư Hiên, who is now living in exile. His memoir contained some contradictory claims, so it's hard to know if the story is true. As for Xuân, very few records of her exist. Hồ Chí Minh is a fascinating historical figure, although the ideological warfare surrounding him till this day tends to hinder people from objectively researching his life. He's Jesus to some, and Satan to others. Maybe someday we will learn more, but for now, don't trust everything you read (even this comment, duh).
@@almost-enlightened-cow5303 i think there is nothing wrong i Ho wanted a wife ? But for the party they wanted to keep him as a single for the Vietnamese image . It is sad that he did not have a family .where he was allowed by the party or not. We need more people like Ho Chi Minh to build Viet Nam economy. People that dedicate to their believe for better Viet Nam !
As a vietnamese ,after reading this comment section,i don't even know what are lies and what are truths.Is ho chi minh a good man or secretly some kind of dictator,I DON'T CARE.
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He is a good Vietnamese, who loves his country and loves the peace. And also, A mirror for us to follow.
No, his name is Hu zhiming ( pinyin), he is chinese, puppet of beijing
@Communist International ok, beijing's puppet
@Communist International you are a student of wumao
@@NamNguyen-km6xc Puppet of Mẽo thì câm mồm vào
@@NamNguyen-km6xc shut up that fugitive in exile
Ho Chi Minh was a nationalist before anything. Communist or Socialist. Ho Chi Minh only wanted Vietnam to be a unified and independent Vietnam. He stood against the French and then U.S in order to accomplish this. He took the communist side because it was the right thing to do in order to accomplish this goal. He never gave up. He went against more than any other human being in that century. and will after all is called Ho Chi Minh City now, Uncle Ho was by far one of the greatest person of that century.
He actually tried to get us support before he overthrew the French but they pushed him down so he went towards communism
+Royce Leii Wrong. He also supported the Pathet Lao and Khmer Rouge, which proves he was looking for an all-communist Indochina. Taking the communist side WAS NOT the right thing to do, and he killed REAL nationalists who were also opposed to French Colonial rule.
+IzmoMI Well you have to remember that North Vietnam was a very rural and traditional country unlike the South, typically this type of areas tend to be a lot more unified, working class and community oriented. communism is just more appealing to them. but even then of you study the first Indochina war and really look closely at the never ending conflict between France and Vietnam. you will see that Ho Chi Ming indeed was supported by the US. when he gave his big independence speech American flags where flying over him. is not until France broke the treaty and Ho seeks help from the US once more and was IGNORED After pretty much begging for help. but you know who did help?
Royce Leii
The only reason we did anything for Ho Chi Minh was because he opposed the Axis in World War II. Ho's support from the USSR pre-dates the Japanese occupation, and he not only attacked the French colonists, but the real nationalists who fought against French colonial rule while he was still in the French Communist Party.
Ho also killed tens of thousands of his own North Vietnamese in a 1956 land reform.
People in Vietnam today remembered what Ho Chi Minh said
Because yes, Ho Chi Minh not a dictator
If he's a dictator none of any cities will have his name
A giant of a man. A hero and beacon to us all. He ended 500 years of foreign occupation of his country. He defeated imperialist America. The Vietnam saga is the most inspiring people's event of the 20th century.
*80 years
There was no "Imperialist America," and Ho was himself an imperialist for the Soviet Union.
If crushing South Vietnam wasn't the main goal, why didn't he just throw out the communist sympathizers around him and join South Vietnam to create just one vietnam?
@@DTD110865Philippines was a US colony and neo-colony until now. Vietnam is not a satellite sate and with a strong independent foreign policy
@@reis1185 Vietnam is a puppet of the former Soviet Union and the conquerer of freedom in Indochina. The Philippines has not been an overseas possession of the United States since 1946, and was never a "neo-colony."
RIP Uncle Ho, one of the greatest revolutionary leaders of all time.
Love and respect from the black community ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿 uncle Ho
I hate war! I love Hochiminh!
He was a good man, with his flaws. If he had more power during the end of his life, the Vietnamese party hardliners under Le Duan may not have gained ascendency and made the post-war situation so tragic.
HCM was a crook
Post war was only bad because Vietnam was embargoed by both China and the United States.
It's good now
@@hoanbui6139 I have been all over Vietnam...and am impressed by the progress that has been made...Vietnam is a country, on the move...
Ho chi minh is Butcher
As a north vietnamese , Ho Chi Minh will forever be in our hearts
There is only one Vietnam!
This man wanna see Vietnam reunification, sadly he died prior to see it in 1975 when Us American troops fled from Saigon..
I thank G_D for not allowing him to see that!
@@JR-ez3zd yeah you did listen to that idiotic nam nguyen guy right?
CBS Evening News anchorman, Walter Cronkite, died on July 17,2009. He served CBS for 19 years. He was a popular figure then, in reporting news.
He went to France, the first country he set foot in when he left his homeland, and sought to get the country out of French domination. During that time, around 191x, he always searched but could not find hope because colonialism was too strong. Until the Russian October Revolution succeeded, he found a way to save the country after many years of traveling abroad. Communism was the tool for him and his colleagues to save Vietnam. If you were in that situation, would you choose anything other than Communism?
ho chi minh was a great person
Just A patriot who had been living his whole devoted life to contribute to the freedom of his home land yet he is just a modest person
In addition, did anyone else notice that this announcer referred to Colorado Springs as "Codoralo Springs"?
If there are serious historians who dispute Eisenhower's view I'm unaware of them.
About 90,000 VM were evacuated to the North after the partition and many would return South to fight as VC and would be joined by hundreds of thousands of more South Vietnamese. I understand that the North supplied and funded them. What I don't understand is why it is our right to decide which political faction should triumph in a civil war in a country that is not our own.
It was between Communism
and Freedom!!
@@deadchannelgoaway.-kr6tt I think a bigger reason was to set an example for any other country desiring independence from US hegemony... i.e. if you don't march to the beat of Washington's drum, you get bombed to the stone age.
@@JR-ez3zd Nationalism. -communism, capitalism-
Dear mr. Mike Gardner,
I am writing on behalf Vietnamese national television (VTV). During one of our shows which will air on 18th of May 2015, celebrating 125 years since the birth of Háť“ ChĂ Minh, we would like to ask for your permision to use one segment of your CBS report on Háť“ ChĂ Minh's death aired in 1969.
We would like to use a segment that starts on 1 minute and 54 seconds and ends on 2 minutes and 40 seconds from your youtube clip (link provided below).
We would appreciated so much if you would grant us your aproval to support us.
Link:
Best regards,
Le Bao An
Diem lost his US backing and was assassinated during the US supported coup.
I tend to focus on our own actions because, though we are not responsible for the acts of others, we are responsible for the predictable consequences of our own acts. The consequences of us militarily propping up a foreign imposed system on the Vietnamese was one of the great human catastrophes of the 20th century. Roughly 4 million people were killed in that war and Vietnam is still recovering from it.
he will forever be in our hearts
Yes, he’s in everyone’s hearts giving us luck!
@Cardinal RG ours
@Cardinal RG us
@Cardinal RG we are
@Cardinal RG don't know how to make it any more clear
He was Vietnam's George Washington.
Ho wanted help from the U.S. but we turned a blind eye. He wanted to set up Vietnam with a constitution similar to our own. I love the U.S. but we should have never been in Vietnam, period!
Yeah
If the Truman goverment can realize Vietnam want to be a real democracy, the Vietnam war would never happened
I'm still wondering as to the announcer on this night - obviously, Harry Kramer was off.
What I said was that core members of the the VC had been VM.
Eisenhower - in his book, 'Mandate for Change' - wrote a different view.
Quote:
I have never talked or corresponded with a person knowledgeable in Indochinese affairs who did not agree that had elections been held as of the time of the fighting, a possible 80 per cent of the population would have voted for the communist Ho Chi Minh as their leader.
This probably explains why the 1956 unification referendum didn't happen.
I don't think we can dismiss Eisenhower's statement about Ho so easily and as I've said, I'm unaware of his views being disputed by historians.
Generally, I'd say we miscalculated the support the other side had during this war. In 'The Fog of War' McNamara admitted that, "We underestimated the power of nationalism to motivate a people to fight and die for their beliefs and values."
I didn't state anything about the goals of the VC or DRV and I'm aware that the VC didn't have 100% support.
why the king of master mine of politician ended up with poisoned himself ? there is not reasonable basic pushing him to do it . to me i think he still a life by that time.
I like Uncle Ho.
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vinboi Nope I'm from Seoul friend
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The Soviets & Chinese didn't have half-a-million troops there.
Since the war never had the unanimous consent of its members, it never obtained SEATO authorization.
Core Viet Cong members were formerly of the Viet Minh, the indigenous resistance to Japanese and French rule. You and I may have views on how Vietnam should be governed. Our views are totally irrelevant because it is not our country to rule and the same was true for the Japanese, the French, and the Chinese before them.
well said!
Ho Chi Minh is such a genius politician.
He was genius to kill 4 million,made Vietnam poorest,made it a killing field.even today no election,millions still believe fake propaganda about him.
@@samjewellery3336 He didn't response for killing 4 million people, he didn,t made Vietnam poor.
@DuMaHCM Where is the source that shows he "murdered" 6 millions?
he liar he live in saigon and he alway hate north vietnam
Ask from his dead victims.this must killer followed his best friends mao,Stalin, killings of total over 100 million.he made Vietnam war zone,made it poorest country,murderous country.he killed over three millions n.same number as polpot killed.gake publicity made him a good man.common sense teach any one this is one of brutal killers of human history.
Yes I want to know the source of those numbers?
@@samjewellery3336 There is no evidence of him killing people. He rejected Stalin and Mao. There was concentración camps in south Vietnam
@@Lilhajxjk274 Bullshit! Dak Son, Hue, Duc Duc, the so-called "land reforms" of the mid-1950's and countless other atrocities are the evidence.
There were refugees on both sides who faced repression by the regimes they opposed. I pointed out the 90,000 VM refugees to illustrate that the VC was overwhelmingly made up of people from the South.
I've not read Herring. Does his view of Ho Chi Minh's popularity contradict Eisenhower's?
Which treaty are you talking about? Fundamentally, when did the US become the beneficent protector of Vietnamese sovereignty? Was it when we supported the French in reestablishing their colony?
Vietnam had existed as a cultural entity for thousands of years whereas South Vietnam was created by the French in 1954.
The Japanese and French also had noble rhetoric about helping the Vietnamese, which they used to justify their actions.
Not murder? We dropped more bombs on Vietnam than we did during all of WWII, resulting in a body count in the millions. All of this to prop up a government imposed on them by the French. We don't have the right to impose governments on other people.
South Vietnam was not created by the French. The partition of Vietnam was created by the United Nations, and the southern government was created by the descendants of the Viet Quoc.
@@DTD110865 Yeah right... we can go through every tedious step and detail in its creation but the fact remains that SVN would never have existed if French colonialism had not established its puppet regime and institutions there.
@@austin0031 It wouldn't have been a divided country if the communist threat wasn't there to being with, and South Vietnam was not a puppet regime.
@@DTD110865 “I have never talked or corresponded with a person knowledgeable in Indochinese affairs who did not agree that had elections been held as of the time of the fighting, possibly 80 per cent of the population would have voted for the Communist Ho Chi Minh as their leader rather than Chief of State Bao Dai.”
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
It wouldn’t have been a divided country if there had been elections as per the 1954 Geneva Accords. You may not have liked the results but it wasn’t up to you.
@@austin0031 I guess you ignored the fact that Ho Chi Minh stole the anti-colonial revolution back in the 1930's when the Vietminh and Vietquoc teamed up briefly, and then the Vietminh turned on them, You mentioned the ex-members of the Vietminh crossing back into North Vietnam, but ignored the people who had to flee for their lives from the north at the same time. They got to vote in local elections, and the VC used to kill them for it.
George Washington fought against the British occupation of his country. Ho Chi Minh fought against the Japanese, French, and then American occupation of his.
As far as "murder and repress(ion)" goes, we were very good at it with our use of carpet bombing, agent orange deforestation, and the corralling of the South Vietnamese into the concentration camps that we called "strategic hamlets".
This unist sympathiser don't understand all this happened because this killer communist tried to make Vietnam communist.his intention was to make Vietnam comunist.thats how it became communist.he made Vietnam poorest in world and a killing field.thanks to capitalism today vietnamese are economicaly progressing.if not capitalism today half of vietnamese dead without food.
Ho Chi Minh was no George Washington.
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Desire for national liberation, bringing happiness to people, who had fought in theoretical research, analysis of revolution in America, France, Russia to draw experiences for Vietnam's revolution. Criteria for evaluating the revolution, according to him, the power after the victory of the revolution and in the hands of people who are enjoying freedom, true happiness or not. These standards are the most concentrated expression of democratic values and human rights.
Long live Vietnam-Ho Chi Minh
Only that is not what has happened or is happening
It has turned into a real life nightmare!!!
@@JR-ez3zd Lmao, go back to school and learned sơm historial kid.
Nope, HCM was popular throughout the whole country, which is what Eisenhower was admitting. You can check his book and the context of his remarks if you like.
Again, the US tried and failed to get SEATO authorized for the war. The RSVN wasn't even a member. I think we're just going in circles here.
BTW, I accidentally hit the 'thumbs down" button on your remark above when I meant to hit reply. I didn't mean to do that because I don't rate the comments of people I'm debating.
Well I guess you can dismiss them if you want. But he did have ample resources to inform him on Vietnamese attitudes so I think his was a pretty candid admission. I do believe he was wrong not to press for the '56 referendum whether or not Ho would win.
I don't know of historians who dispute that Ho was viewed as a nationalist figure who had resisted colonization. And I don't know of any other nationalist figure more popular than Ho. it is possible to be both nationalist and communist.
:(((( iam vietnamese
And nothing of value was lost
Sht up
😢😢😢😢😭😭😭🥲🥲🥲🥲❤❤ bye bye uncle ho chi minh
The French signed the Geneva Accords, petitioning the country in 1954. They then withdrew but the governmental infrastructure in the south stayed the same as it was under French rule. The country was to be unified in a 1956 referendum but US backed Ngo Dinh Diem refused to permit the elections.
Treaties we have signed permit killing for the purpose of self defence. American troops killing Vietnamese in support of a government we impose on them hardly constitutes our self defence.
end ChiNa
Yaaa
Can anybody clarify? I heard that Ho Chi Minh had many secret mistresses during his life of revolutionary struggle to fight the French colonialists.
Not sure if you're still interested after 10 years. It's plausible that he had been in at least one relationship. I'm using "plausible" here because the current official stance of the Vietnamese government states that Hồ Chí Minh remained celibate throughout his life.
The one with the most evidences was Zeng Xueming (Tăng Tuyết Minh in Vietnamese), who allegedly lived together with Ho at some point from 1926 to 1927. His letter to her, IIRC, can still be found in a branch of the National Archives in France. Vietnamese columnists and foreign scholars or historians alike (e.g. William Duiker) had digged into this relationship in the past.
Nguyễn Thị Minh Khai was seen on paper as a spouse of Ho Chi Minh (under an alias), but this seemed to be more for political purposes than an actual relationship. During this time, she never expressed any intimacy to Ho.
Nông Thị Xuân is the most controversial one. Opponents of the communist regime have said that she was the 'lover' of Ho, and even bore him a child. The retelling of their interaction was in a memoir by Vũ Thư Hiên, who is now living in exile. His memoir contained some contradictory claims, so it's hard to know if the story is true. As for Xuân, very few records of her exist.
Hồ Chí Minh is a fascinating historical figure, although the ideological warfare surrounding him till this day tends to hinder people from objectively researching his life. He's Jesus to some, and Satan to others. Maybe someday we will learn more, but for now, don't trust everything you read (even this comment, duh).
@@almost-enlightened-cow5303 counist dictatorship government days lies only.
@@almost-enlightened-cow5303 i think there is nothing wrong i Ho wanted a wife ? But for the party they wanted to keep him as a single for the Vietnamese image . It is sad that he did not have a family .where he was allowed by the party or not. We need more people like Ho Chi Minh to build Viet Nam economy. People that dedicate to their believe for better Viet Nam !
Can you clarify? I heard that you are son of the bitch :D
Land reform in north Vietnam from 1954 to 1956 killed off 13,500 landowners whose land were confiscated
Ho Chi Minh is very very nice.
Viêtnam! Owner!!
As a vietnamese ,after reading this comment section,i don't even know what are lies and what are truths.Is ho chi minh a good man or secretly some kind of dictator,I DON'T CARE.
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