The Rise of MS13 and Militarized Mexican Drug Cartels | Borderland #5

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • Today is the second in a two-part series on BORDERLAND, examining the MS13 gang and the massive crackdown taking place in El Salvador.
    Last week, we spoke with Alex Papadovassilakis and Steven Dudley of the organization InSight Crime, to talk about efforts to clear the country of gang violence, the 70,000 people who’ve been arrested, and the mega prisons that are housing them.
    This week, we do a deep dive into the origins of the notorious street gang and how they differ from Mexican cartels.
    The fentanyl crisis, what is tranq (as well as how it became such a massive and dangerous problem in areas known for street drugs), how these drugs are coming into the country, and what can be done to stop it.
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  • @thisisironclad
    @thisisironclad  6 месяцев назад +4

    Check out our clips channel for more content to watch - www.youtube.com/@IRONCLADClips

  • @thechi2848
    @thechi2848 6 месяцев назад +56

    Cartels would not be as powerful if not for government assistance on both sides.

    • @hey_youtubeim_back2159
      @hey_youtubeim_back2159 5 месяцев назад +7

      Such an understatement

    • @unclerog
      @unclerog 5 месяцев назад +6

      RIGHT!!!!!??!!?

    • @phonymex3340
      @phonymex3340 4 месяца назад

      Then where would the US get their revenue! Yeah, corruption...

    • @ashog1426
      @ashog1426 3 месяца назад +2

      Empahsis on BOTH

    • @RaisedxFist
      @RaisedxFist 24 дня назад +1

      You $pelled a$$i$tance wrong.

  • @joetayson397
    @joetayson397 6 месяцев назад +22

    I'm in Maryland. MS13 has been here forever. They are everywhere.

    • @tittiesinmyface-cv1iv
      @tittiesinmyface-cv1iv 4 месяца назад

      I live in the san Fernando valley in cali Thiers a street here and their taggings are everywhere

  • @topdog73
    @topdog73 5 месяцев назад +5

    I admire how this guest is well informed unlike other youtubers or different newspapers 😮😮😮

    • @adox8574
      @adox8574 3 месяца назад

      What did he say that everyone doesn't already know?

    • @RaisedxFist
      @RaisedxFist 17 дней назад +1

      Unorthodox

  • @Mr_Farfi
    @Mr_Farfi 6 месяцев назад +9

    Really enjoying this series. Thank you

  • @Goofyjigga360
    @Goofyjigga360 6 месяцев назад +10

    My biological father is an MS13 member idk my biological father but I hope he gets arrested.

  • @barnabykent6698
    @barnabykent6698 6 месяцев назад +3

    Wow, this has a very high content vs noise ratio. Fascinating in-depth analysis.

  • @codygranrud6212
    @codygranrud6212 5 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome work, very educational.

  • @user-io6pj8bz8h
    @user-io6pj8bz8h 6 месяцев назад +6

    Don't blame it on absentee parents. That has never been a problem amongst Euros.

  • @bignoseYeu
    @bignoseYeu 6 месяцев назад +9

    Anyone remember when los zetas would pull over immigrants from central America and check their tattoos. If you had any ms tattoos. You were getting picked up and disappeared

    • @slevinkulina
      @slevinkulina 6 месяцев назад

      I know the Latin kings did this to me in North Humboldt Park, chicago many many times walking through to k town. But always cool in county. Neutron here.

    • @Destroyer-s2e
      @Destroyer-s2e 6 месяцев назад

      I had read an article that said that it was rumored that they went at it for a few months until they eventually called a truce. It also said it was on a reliable source but couldn't confirm . And they both lost members on both sides.

    • @phonymex3340
      @phonymex3340 4 месяца назад

      ​@@slevinkulina Lol a street gang who are a bunch of broke crackheads vs a Cartel Group is very different

    • @flonkplonk1649
      @flonkplonk1649 3 месяца назад

      They had MS13 working for them

  • @missmurderem
    @missmurderem 5 месяцев назад +9

    We owe them nothing. They can wait in THEIR country. THIS is the EXACT reason why the situation is so bad. Because of "empathy". Its being weaponized against us.

    • @TA-wc8zz
      @TA-wc8zz 5 месяцев назад

      MS13 is a US originated gang, they didn't become gangsters until they become part of the marginalized groups in LA.

  • @deezysthadonsworld1138
    @deezysthadonsworld1138 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bro your podcast is sick

  • @spaceman8839
    @spaceman8839 5 месяцев назад +4

    They are in the United States by the thousands now … FJB

  • @navy80to04
    @navy80to04 6 месяцев назад +18

    Our government and cartel are the same group different color.

  • @user-wb4cp7se7f
    @user-wb4cp7se7f 6 месяцев назад +4

    Hey Rocco you down with Metal?

  • @MoellerMike1977
    @MoellerMike1977 5 месяцев назад +3

    Have to take out the major Cartels like America did in Colombia and Mexico needs to copy El Salvador, on a much greater scale. W American took out the major Cartels in Colombia in the 1990s not stop Drugs and drug trafficking, but to keep Colombia from becoming a failed nation-state. Again, most Americans have no idea what is going on the Border and South of the Border in Mexico. I posted this before.
    We are not dealing with gang or mafia like like in America. America and Mexico are dealing Cartels are made up of former elite-trained personnel of the Mexican and various Central American militaries that were trained by best of the best of the French, Israeli and American militaries.
    Again, If one wants an idea what the Mexican government is going through on fighting the Cartels, this would be like the Los Angeles, El Paso, Miami, or New York Police Departments had to take on and get into a firefight with 60 members of the 101st Air Borne Division, or members of the 75th Ranger Regiment or Marines of 1st Marine Division or members of America's special operations command.
    That would not end well.
    And what would a Wall or gun control or the Immigration Bill do to stop any of this?

    • @Balla1309able
      @Balla1309able 4 месяца назад

      Greatly put together! Right on

    • @phonymex3340
      @phonymex3340 4 месяца назад

      They don't know this information. They don't care. Sadly. Great input though 💯

  • @MDM0915
    @MDM0915 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks…great episode.

  • @emmanuelperez541
    @emmanuelperez541 6 месяцев назад +3

    Coco would be so proud

  • @unclerog
    @unclerog 5 месяцев назад +1

    Howdy from the Last Best Place on Mother Earth...Montana...Great GREAT Video Guys...I learned much...LOVE IT!!!

  • @Erica-m7l
    @Erica-m7l 6 месяцев назад +8

    A LOT OF THE JOBS PEOPLE WONT DO FOR THE LOW LOW PRICE, ITS NOT THE JOB, ITS THE UNDERCUT PAY THAT MAKES IT INSANELY LOW, AND CUTS THE LOWER WORKING CLASS WAGES ACROSS THE BOARD AS WELL!!

    • @pinkoslayer
      @pinkoslayer 6 месяцев назад

      Jobs people won’t do is something that the slave owners say to silence the sheep. The middle class and blue collar watching their industries being staffed by imported cheap labor know the reality.

    • @michaelmcgee2026
      @michaelmcgee2026 6 месяцев назад +1

      Calm down

    • @RaisedxFist
      @RaisedxFist 24 дня назад +1

      I said the same thing pretty much on another issue.

  • @brainwashed2586
    @brainwashed2586 6 месяцев назад +2

    This dude I never even been to El Salvador

  • @gabrielvela5011
    @gabrielvela5011 6 месяцев назад +4

    I’ll love to learn more about serbian criminal organizations operating in the U.S. that specialize in gun trafficking to Central America and Europe. Same old same, I’ll like to know more about what is less obvious to the untrained eye.

    • @flonkplonk1649
      @flonkplonk1649 3 месяца назад +1

      Really Serbian or (Kozovo) Albanian?!

    • @flonkplonk1649
      @flonkplonk1649 3 месяца назад +1

      Really Serbian or (Kozovo) Albanian?!

  • @codygranrud6212
    @codygranrud6212 5 месяцев назад +1

    Shout out to Sombre Negra. :)

  • @dcesar117
    @dcesar117 Месяц назад

    At first in the title i read boogerland

  • @thebaps1143
    @thebaps1143 6 месяцев назад +2

    It’s fascinating to me that so many Americans think cartels are like our gangs. They fear MS 13 but do not understand how organized, well funded, politically powerful and violent the Mexican cartels really are.

  • @jonathanramos8414
    @jonathanramos8414 6 месяцев назад +7

    Im surprised he didn't mention the Salvadoran civil war 1979-1992. It was one of ronald Reagan's major foreign policy issues.

    • @eswinc7731
      @eswinc7731 6 месяцев назад +1

      He did not mention the role of the peace agreement in El Salvador and Guatemala and how this impacted the development of this gangs…

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 6 месяцев назад

      That he fomenteed.

    • @jonathanramos8414
      @jonathanramos8414 6 месяцев назад

      @@eswinc7731 remember the CIA was highly involved in helping train the salvadoran military in counter insurgency against the FMLN. School of the Americas. Also where the zetas were trained at too

    • @markcook9941
      @markcook9941 6 месяцев назад

      Yup for sure. That was a pretty hairy I guess their not that old but panama elsalvador Honduras to Columbia was enough to keep you sharp

    • @jonathanramos8414
      @jonathanramos8414 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@markcook9941 yeah latin America during the cold war was pretty shadowy

  • @shawncash6285
    @shawncash6285 6 месяцев назад +2

    From mobsters to Microsoft

  • @georgelabelle5938
    @georgelabelle5938 5 месяцев назад +2

    Cartels all work with and for the government

  • @manuelunzueta8809
    @manuelunzueta8809 6 месяцев назад

    That’s crazy that your grew up in the valley I’m born and raised in the valley I grew up on Langdon st one of the ghettoest hoods in the valley

  • @_nick_d
    @_nick_d 6 месяцев назад

    Bicycle Casino in LA was partially funded by Miami drug dealer, like 30M in early 90’s.

  • @jw5297
    @jw5297 6 месяцев назад +3

    It is naive! Sorry but i can't just go to Australia or Nee Zealand and just stay there.
    Both and many nations globally require visas and if you're staying must provide documentation and approval before you can just go.
    Why should America be any different?
    The security risks are not worth overlooking for feelings.
    We gave laws, and the first act you want to take being here is to immediately be a criminal!?
    What precedent is set!
    What does that say about laws imposed?
    If its okay to knowingly and willfully violate federal law, then why does any law matter we feel is unjust?
    Mexico is not doing anything about the issue now, and likely making shitloads of money from the very operations breaking our laws. Your solution is to pay them more money for the same behavior, what world are we living in!!!
    Unlike Mexico, the US gets its funding from its people, so we should keep paying the tab.
    Sorry but NO, the border must be closed, and people seeking to enter the US do so legally.
    Everything else is a perpetuation of the problem.

    • @pierceh.5670
      @pierceh.5670 6 месяцев назад

      We will stop paying taxes before they close the border

  • @justinhorn2864
    @justinhorn2864 5 месяцев назад +2

    Liberal voters say awe let's help them and open the border

    • @xmachine7003
      @xmachine7003 5 месяцев назад

      Send the liberals and their money across the border on a mission if they feel so strongly that they want to help.

  • @user-anc123
    @user-anc123 5 месяцев назад +1

    Its inhumane to the American citizens

  • @barbarahunter6960
    @barbarahunter6960 6 месяцев назад +1

    Sir we do those jobs. The problem is in the payment.

    • @Clipanomics-mk2yb
      @Clipanomics-mk2yb 6 месяцев назад

      Wym payment? There’s some workers making 2k a check

  • @deshb22
    @deshb22 5 месяцев назад +1

    Dudes just regurgitating information everyone already knows

  • @Shilohii65
    @Shilohii65 5 месяцев назад +1

    Near the end 40:00 mark this guy starts to sound more liberal than American. Their problem becomes our problem only because we refuse to mandate that Mexico fix their own problems. When did we become the fixer of every country that is affected by evil, by corruption, by inept country governments to successfully run their own countries? If your leadership is not doing well, then get better leaders. Sure there’s world commerce to be considered and foreign affairs, but for the USA to “FIX” every failing country’s problems is just not plausible or feasible. If that is to become the case, then the USA will become what we never intended to become, and that is the authoritarian figure head, like the British and Roman Empires, of many foreign lands.
    Is that what you’re referring to?

    • @51234ad
      @51234ad 4 месяца назад

      Ignorant comment

  • @user-io6pj8bz8h
    @user-io6pj8bz8h 6 месяцев назад +2

    Wr need a real look, not a cultural marxists opinions and feelings.

  • @2RebelNomads
    @2RebelNomads 6 месяцев назад +1

    🎉

  • @wealthygypsy416
    @wealthygypsy416 6 месяцев назад +1

    Outstanding citizens those gangs are they provide a good piece of funding for the cia & fbi they will continue to grow. Don’t worry citizens will never revolt

    • @markcook9941
      @markcook9941 6 месяцев назад

      Absolutely. Lots of Ducky's Rollin to fund wars for training. Airdrop jungle force

  • @alejandrocota5949
    @alejandrocota5949 5 месяцев назад

    I’m from Ensenada and cub was definitely a narco property

  • @rickybobby1844
    @rickybobby1844 5 месяцев назад

    818 in the house !!!

  • @krisser92
    @krisser92 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ms had a green light a couple years ago cuz they didnt wanna pay the tax

  • @claudiaclaudia936
    @claudiaclaudia936 5 месяцев назад

    MEXICO =#1 DRUG PUSHERS
    🤠👍🏿

  • @QuixEnd
    @QuixEnd 5 месяцев назад

    You cant draw an imaginary line where one side is wealthy while the other side isnt, and expect the absurdity of it all wont backfire

  • @brainwashed2586
    @brainwashed2586 6 месяцев назад +4

    It always amazes me how these so-called gang experts have so much insight and information about something they themselves have never been a part of. All of their so-called l fact is Information Gained second hand and repackaged to continue a narrative and a view that solely represents their own

    • @JK-vi3jm
      @JK-vi3jm 6 месяцев назад +1

      You gotta learn Spanish and lose atl 20 IQ pts before you can truly understand these th-gs.

    • @cathyvain7046
      @cathyvain7046 6 месяцев назад +1

      And how do u know no one else represents their view? Are u an expert on that?

    • @brainwashed2586
      @brainwashed2586 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@cathyvain7046 your goddamn right I am lady

    • @themetaphysicalaxe5506
      @themetaphysicalaxe5506 5 месяцев назад

      I mean all in all it's a gang and they're all the same, mostly, so kinda easy to be an "expert"

    • @brazydee420
      @brazydee420 2 месяца назад

      Uh oh white krio keyboard warrior triggered! Yeah. Again gangs are pretty simple to break down. All & new structure over time and future. Always informants that tell it first hand so.

  • @NormieWeimarican
    @NormieWeimarican 5 месяцев назад

    MS20 for life!

  • @glenmeyers1360
    @glenmeyers1360 6 месяцев назад

    0:14 0:14 0:14 0:14

  • @lundysden6781
    @lundysden6781 5 месяцев назад

    ms13 dont doit

  • @nicholas2827
    @nicholas2827 5 месяцев назад

    This guy seems well meaning but elitist

  • @7thGenWill
    @7thGenWill 6 месяцев назад

    You guys think if Rocco was a Roman during the great fall he would have referred to the barbarians as “ undocumented”?

  • @johnpancap844
    @johnpancap844 5 месяцев назад +3

    No thank u to globalization

    • @ashog1426
      @ashog1426 3 месяца назад +1

      Vote trump😅

  • @DickBeaudoin-jw6wy
    @DickBeaudoin-jw6wy 6 месяцев назад

    This guy is delusional, and saying it out loud doesn’t work out well for others. Enjoy your visit to any major city in America or South America and let me know if they are not on another level,

  • @2RebelNomads
    @2RebelNomads 6 месяцев назад

    🎉

  • @2RebelNomads
    @2RebelNomads 6 месяцев назад

    🎉

  • @2RebelNomads
    @2RebelNomads 6 месяцев назад

    🎉