Old West Vignette: Horseback tour of the Cochise Stronghold - The Last Stand of Apache Resistance
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- The Cochise Stronghold is a portion of the Dragoon Mountains just northeast of Tombstone and southwest of Fort Bowie and Apache Pass, AZ.
Due to the terrain and their cultural heritage, this became the last real bastion of relative safety for the apache resistance.
In this video we tour an extensive portion of the Cochise Stronghold on horseback and discuss a few historical sites along the way.
Touring historic backcountry like this on horseback is an incredible way to garner a better understanding for what it was like "back then"!
If you're interested in a ride like this, contact Double R Ranch:
www.doublerguestranch.com/
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My wife was a competition rider from when she was a child until she was hurt many years later. Some years back she worked out a deal for a few weeks worth of lessons for me. Until you spend time on a horse you really don't have an appreciation for what it's like. It's a mode of transportation with a mind of its own. One of my harder experiences was handling my mare on a ride outside when a storm was coming. Negotiating with your "car" is a unique experience.
A recurring thing in role play communities is "Horses are not medieval motorcycles".
Michael Eversberg II
i'd like to hear more elaborate examples about how they insert this in role play
Exactly, Murphy82nd! They're a bit like motorcycles or something, but with a mind of their own. Riding a horse for the first time is quite the experience. Over here riding is generally considered a girls'/women's hobby. Yes, a hobby. And just for the female gender. If we went back a hundred years it'd have been pretty much the opposite really (sure there were many women who would ride, but still). Nobody thinks that a cowboy or a knight is girly, but anybody who rides a horse now is, apparentally!
Murphy82nd
As a native Arizonan who's family settled in the Chiricahuas before statehood,...I LOVE these vids. I got my first deer not far from Cochise's Stronghold and within sight of the family homestead. Unfortunately, that was all lost during the huge Horseshoe Fire back in 2011. Please feel free to do more of these.
Quoting you: "all lost" > Would it have been possible to rebuild?
@@cacatr4495 Often, what is lost cannot be regained. It would be a new building, if I hit my mark, given that wildfires destroy everything so effectively.
There was a joke about a cavalry memoir: '40 Miles in the Saddle', by Major Assburns.
"A Manual Of Cavalry Operations"
Thanks!
If your looking for reading material check out “life under the bleachers” by Seamour butts
While this wasn't a boomenstuff video. it was a perfect opportunity to test none explosive material such as the McClellan saddle.
New subscriber. Long time Forgotten Weapons subscriber, but just learned about this channel (shame on me). Really like this kind of content. Keep up the good work.
Welcome!
This reminds me of when I was young. My friends and I had the dream of riding the Santa Fe trail or the Oregon Trail (or parts thereof) on horseback and wagon. We would have started in my home town of Kansas City near the old jumping off spot of Westport. The dreams of youth! We were all city boys, but fascinated by the West. We would probably have lasted 2 days tops. LOL. Thanks for the video - it brought back great memories and provided an armchair view of what the terrain and travel would have been like in the late 19th century.
These guys are great. Their videos are informative, their information is sensible/pragmatic, they're respectful, they seem to try and see both sides of these engagements/events, and they just seem like all-around good fellows.
Benson, Tombstone, Bisbee, Sierra Vista...all great towns and worthy of a visit. The history in this part of AZ is iconic. One of my favorite places
it amuses me the suggested "next video" at the end is Iron Maiden's "Run to the Hills".
I would like to recommend a book called "On the border with Crook" by John G Bourke, Capt. 3rd cavalry USA. He gives a first hand account of Indian wars starting in 1870 with his assignment to Old Camp Grant and Tucson, AZ. and Army life of the period. By the way, it was Gen. Crook who coin the phrase " It takes an Indian to catch an Indian"
Your efforts are appreciated! Thanks for sharing this with us
That's a mighty fine coat you've got on, Ian.
I spent the first 12 years of my life on a farm, we had horses and rode a lot, I missed that when we moved to town, but my interests turned to beer and girls, so i never looked back. Been probably 55 years now since I had a horse under me, but this video sure brought back some memories of riding across the prairie of North Dakota.
You two "minor RUclips celebrities" can pretty much do a video on anything and I'll enjoy it! Great video as always.
I have to tell you this; at the end of your video, RUclips recommended "Run to the hills by Iron Maiden." I was a bit startled at the spot on pick from the algorithym.
Although I live back east, I've spent many hours with my children walking the trails and seeing the areas that Techumseh and Bluejacket fought The whites over. We only lose if we forget the lessons these people taught us with their blood and effort. Thanks to both Karl and Ian, send our regards to the folks at the R&R!
RUclips didn’t recommend that, I added it as an annotation myself. :) ~K
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William-Tecumseh and Blue Jacket didn’t fight the whites, they fought the Americans. They were well aware of the differences between Americans, British, French and Spaniards.
@@tombrennan6312 That's not 100% true..
General Crook said that "Sending the military to capture Geronimo and his band of Apache was like using a brass band to hunt deer."
It was fabulous to see the Stronghold through the eyers of the horseback rider. I had seen the horse trail intersect with the hiking trail on the way up to the tanks. Thanks for posting this.
My absolute favorite channel together with Forgotten Weapons and RIA
I was very happy to see another video in the "Old west vignette" series. I like WWSD and the match videos, but these are really something special. Thanks!
I thought the history and modern horse ride was a great combo. History is richer when experienced, like the ride y'all took and like the videos y'all make. Thanks!
Great stuff, and AZ landscapes are superb.
New Mexico might even be better..
Check the photo at 9:20. IAN IS AN IMMORTAL/TIME TRAVELER CONFIRMED
~ 9:00 “…a *little bit* of a massacre…”[emphasis mine] - never considered massacres to be ‘spectral’ (ie. spectrum-like in character). But nothing mars this outstanding inrange content. I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating: while recognising how costly these vignettes are to bring to available video, it is truly exceptionally valuable. It’s a big reason why I continue to support the channel financially, and feel blessed that I can. Thank you Ian and Karl.
I love these south west history videos. I've lived in Az all my life so seeing its history which is hidden in rock stacks literally is so awesomely interesting
So glad to see more Old West Vignettes, keep up the great work Ian and Karl
I was fortunate to spend over 4 years living in the Rim area and up through the White Mountains and have hunted, trapped and fished all over the north eastern quarter of the state......
And what a beautiful area it is, one of the most beautiful in our country if not the whole world......
And a history rich landscape in any direction you look.
Thanks guy's for bringing it fourth for everyone to see.....
If you could do some of this up on the Rim l think it would be well received and the footage would be breathtaking......
Guys, I saw one of your other vignettes and that started me on a marathon of them. It's great, informative stuff told well. But what was almost heartbreaking is when you asked for comments on a video to show that "we have evolved"...and had to disable the comments. That speaks awful volumes about how much evolving we have yet to go, and to me, was just as powerful as the story itself. Thank you for what you do. As an aside, if you want to see places where Native Americans and early settlers clashed, you might check out Fort Gaines, GA and the Creek Indian wars. About a century later, Geronimo was kept as a prisoner a few hours away in Pensacola, FL.
Love this stuff, and the whole vignettes series. Very interesting. Great that you guys live nearby and can do this stuff. It really does mean a lot more in a ground level view. Many thanks. I will put this on my list for whenever i visit AZ
My only vacation in the US was 11days in Az, on our way to Tombstone and Bisbee we saw those mountains in the distance, I wanted to see more but couldn't so thanks for taking me back there.
I love watching these types of videos y’all do on inrange. Thanks!
Thanks for treating this video and the history with the respect it deserves. It really means a lot.
Can’t wait to do that ride. Have done a short one up north of Phoenix but this is in the heart of the area I’ve been reading about...
I know it's not the main crux of what you two do, but I really do enjoy these Old West Vignettes. The Southwest is absolutely beautiful and I hope I get a chance to see it for myself. Happy New Year to the both of you!
They are sure footed horses! Thank you yet again for excellent content.
thanks guys, I love history and making history interesting is what you are doing. History is relevant even today, we can learn from it or suffer the same lessons again, our pick.
Awesome awesome video! That’s why I love supporting you guys!
Some of my favorite videos on RUclips are the vignette videos. Thank you
Love the Vignettes guys! I love seeing interesting history about my home state.
Guys, thanks, excellent and great that you also talking about the realities of moving across great distances on horseback
Awesome video guys, really puts the history in perspective.
I love this channel and everything it represents. Thank you!!!
Thank you for this wonderful video. I am in awe by the landscape and the history attached to it. Looking forward to visit the area one day myself.
It is so cool to see the additional history from the Fort Huachuca area! Thank you!
Great video. Always love more of these kinds of videos when possible.
The Apaches have the most bad ass wild land fire fighting crews I have ever worked with
Whoa how come?
Huh. When I was a kid we had a horse called Chiricahua Scout. He was an Appaloosa. Great horse. Thought he was a dog. :)
Love the variety guys awesome as always thanks
All I kept thinking of was Ian's scalp hanging from a lance. Love these vignettes.
One of your best videos ever.
I love your historical videos.
Hi guys, I'm from England and I have always been so interested in this topic. Thank you for making the video, it was so interesting, I hope some day to do what you just did, and also to go to Tombstone also. Many thanks guys ☺
Thanks for the history lesson and
Beautiful scenery .
Ron
Great Vedic guys! Very interesting and informative!
Video! Not Vedic! Ha!
These videos really are amazing.
I'll be in that area for the whole winter , I'll have to check it out.
Thanks for the video.
Absolutely beautiful countryside!
Very interesting video, thank you!
love your work lads
Very cool to give the guy a plug at the end. It's a great service as these can be some exhausting hikes.
this was a rly cool one thanks y’all
Oh man do I miss AZ. I was fortunate enough to live there for 12 yrs up to 2015. I had many a ride on horseback during that time. Even had a few chances to do midnight rides (as we called them) under a full or near full moon. Quite a breathtaking experience. AZ will always be a second home (if not a first home again in the future). Thanks for the video and history. I always enjoy the Old West Vignettes.
I first learned about 'ambling horses' in the context of medieval Europe. Travelers would ride the ambling horse, and also trail a pack horse and/or a riding horse. Ambling horses have a particular gait when walking which evenly distributes the up and down motion and is more comfortable for the rider. Some breeds of horses amble naturally, most horses can be trained to use the gait. Modern ambling horses, often called 'walking' horses, are used in competitions of trained horses. The walking horse's gait also makes for a smoother carriage ride and they are often seen in that role. People of yore saw and used horses very differently from how we do today.
Was there this past summer. Those mountains are bad ass. Very steep with incredible views.
amazing video's keep up the great work guys :D.
Karl ruffling that horse's mane was super cute. Great video guys. Thanks for the history lesson.
Thanks guys! I really enjoyed it!
I really enjoyed this. Nice job.
thank you so much for these kind of videos Ian and Karl! as someone who's lived their whole life in South-Eastern and Eastern AZ i really enjoy how good of a job you guys do at representing the rich history we have. There are so many legends and historic areas around here, i cant wait to see what you guys do for the next old west vignette!
also if you need any ideas or pictures or references for the area i would be more then happy to help!
Thanks for the info.. my daughter will love this ride..
Your comment about how riding a horse can be a real workout. Many years ago,I read Charles Darwin's account,The Voyage of the Beagle. He spent time in South America,and the vaqueros mentioned just how sore they would be if for any reason their lifestyle was interrupted by periods of rest or inactivity. The only way a person can ride for long periods is to do it constantly. Nice little vignette. Seeing that terrain makes the difficulties of the Apache campaign much more comprehensible. Cheers.
Love these videos about history!!
After reading the autobiography of Tom Horn and Scouting on Two Continents by F.R. Burnham, both of whom write about scouting with Al Sieber after the Apache breakout from San Carlos, you really gain an appreciation for the terrain and the hardships both sides had to endure, as well as the hardiness of the people who were masters of the frontier. It's one thing to read about it, but it truly gives it new depth to visualize it through your wonderful content. Thanks for sharing!
I spent a lot of time at Ft Huachuca and visited Ft Bowie and Tombstone, and hope to make it back to the area. Really enjoy these kinds of videos.
Love these videos, guys. I think it would be really cool to see a "new west" vignette about the Yarnell Hill fire and the 19 hotshots that were killed there in 2013.
My family used to own a ranch down in Brady Texas. Near our cabin was a rocky creek bed and there were a lot of those grinding stone holes dotting that whole area along the creek. I was just a kid so I really didnt appreciate the history behind them until now. Just looking at the holes you can imagine these people going about their daily lives. Awesome stuff
And you put Iron Maiden in a Link! Nice!!! Beautiful country and thanks, this was another excellent video.
Enjoyed the video thanks for sharing!
Loved this. I was just in Tombstone and I find myself gazing East to the dragoons wondering what it’s like in there. Super informative.
Beautiful terrain. Stuff like this makes me want to move back to AZ.
That horse ride looks very relaxing.
I'd love to go on one.
Great video
Ian... Like your range coat! Right out of "High Plains Drifter"! LOL
Great video sirs
In 1992 I participated in an 1880’s Cavalry Re-enactment that consist of a 3 day ride/2 night camp (21 of us on horseback) from the Cochise Hotel to Tombstone. We began the adventure with a night in the Cochise Hotel and ended it riding straight down the Main Street in Tombstone. I still have great photos (color and black & white). 1st we camped in the Stronghold, 2nd night we camped on top of the mountain, the 3rd day was dusty ride thru the desert to Tombstone.
"Gun Jesus rode in upon a white horse..." Nice video Karl! As a guy from out east, I have never been out west and would love to experience this stuff for myself. Until then, this is a wonderfully informative and entertaining substitute :)
Oh, great - first Ian's throwing his guns around and now he's spitting on sacred land! He's a menace, I tell you! But, seriously, great vid. Your explanation of how one can see dust clouds from great distances really shed some light on the way the Apache (and others) could see and prepare for "battle". Also, John Wayne movies would lead one to believe that traveling 50+ miles a day on horseback was routine; thanks for dispelling that Hollywood BS. Thanks for doing this. I look forward to more!
Thank you for your work
Very interesting video thank you so much.
Love the info....God Bless
Have you guys ever read a book called Empire of the Summer Moon? I highly recommend it.
I lived in that part of AZ for years and never knew about that ride. Something to do if I ever get back.
Fantastic more....more....more!
Nice weather. Nice horsey.
Really enjoyed this video. You need to include a link to Karl's earlier video that you mentioned. The whole time I was waiting for you to break out the rifles.
I really have to get out and enjoy the area more.
Really interesting video.
14:18 The man on the right wearing the pith helmet is General George Crook, known to the Apache as Nantan Lupan, in English "Chief Wolf".
I enjoyed the videos!
I like how RUclips suggested "Iron Maiden, Run to the hills" after this video. Awesome.
RUclips didn’t do that, I did.
I spent a few days at a Buddhist meditation retreat in Cochise Stronghold. It was one of the most beautiful places I've ever been.
My son is 15 months old and he just fell asleep while we're chilling on the couch watching this. It's a good thing. All hail gun Lucifer shooter of targets faller off ladders taster of the Russian mre
Hail yourself! Thank you for the kind words, and I hope you enjoyed it. ~K
Ian Looks like Doc Holiday! A true renaissance man.