@@GeGEfasS Yes.. for a woman who seemed so stuffy and a traditionalist, the more the series went along the more we found out how very astute and adaptable she was (and had secrets of her own)... The only thing I can say is Mary's exclaim "oh Gran-NEY!!" :)
“I’m glad that Mrs. Patmore has a good heart and does not judge” i love when Cora said that to Robert. Especially after Sybil’s death. Sybil was always kind and sincere to anyone.
@@LucyLovettLestrange exactly! She left a wonderful legacy for the family. To be kind to everyone. As Mrs. Hughes said “Sybil was a kind and gentle person. Beauty inside and out”
everyone's cheering for the dowager or cora whereas the real hero as usual is Mrs. Crawley. she was always more progressive and generous in both her thinking and her actions. what almost no one used to think of doing, she'd not only make plans of doing it, but execute it too. whenever someone needs help, she can be counted upon. she's the only one I look up to from this series.
I love what strong, capable women they became over years of (what they perceived) as hardship. Perhaps it was Lady Edith having a child born out of wedlock opened their minds and hearts. So it doesn’t matter what hard times you may have fallen upon, you can start again and with the gentle help from the heart, one can feel their sense of dignity and respect of self, slowly returning. It is true that in helping someone, it is often the person helping that receives the greatest gift.
Oh give me a break. Did you read this on some ''motivational'' stickers? Too much sugar. No, you can't always start again, and ''gentle heart'' is never enough, wake up to harsh realities
"you've exposed my family to scandal" Like Robert making a scene, insulting Ethel like she just grew a magic baby all by herself and had the audacity to give birth to it, ignoring all the hard work to make this luncheon a good one and then, he storms out slamming the door like a brat being told no for the first time, sure, let's pretend like that's not a scandal. 🙄 Honestly if all the women banded together more often Robert wouldn't have been able to get away with nearly as much bullshit as he accomplished on this show.
I have a stupid question about that. At this point, did Robert know about Mary's scandal with the Turkish ambassador? I mean, as far as scandal goes, a maid getting pregnant during the war is hardly grounds for a coronary when his own daughters did far worse in terms of Victorian/Edwardian social norms go (and notice I said norms, not morals.. I'm not making a moral judgment, just that he should look at the table for a history reference before judging a commoner). And as far as scandal.. didn't he foolishly mismanage and lost Cora's fortune?
@@creativewriter3887 Rules for thee and not for me... Robert was not a bad guy. He was human. But it took time for him to allow his sensibilities and prejudices to fade away. He was a traditionalist, but really the only person expecting him to hold to most of the traditions was himself. Once he had enough humanity heaped on his shoulders, his resolve finally broke, and he became a better man for it. What really triggered the change was when Cora had asked him if he had ever done something he was ashamed of, and he knew good and well that he had, with his brush with infidelity. Cora was not having an affair. He actually was. It was after this that his overall attitude turned around. The character building in this show was awesome.
Yeah right, lets make him a ''baddie'' and women angels even though Robert would eventually soften and become less rigid and stand back allowing Mary to rule the manor and even though not all women in this show have been kind and honest. He was wrong here, sure, but wasn't Mrs. Hughs as well when she fired Ethel without reference dooming her to a hard life? (yes she tried to help her eventually but that wasn't enough, she could have gone another way about this whole thing to begin with
Im sorry, but Cora's reaction in the thumbnail and @3:17 absolutely KILLS ME every time🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭 Probably every shocking scene where her big blue eyes are STUNNED like this, i cant help but laugh! Such BRILLIANT acting from Ms. Elizabeth McGovern
That was hardly a solidarity, the ones who were empathethic towards Ethel were Isobel, Cora and Mrs Patmore. Others just didn't care enough about her past.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849I think it's not that they didn't care, they just thought it would be too rude to stand up and leave. Besides, it would ruin their relationship with Isobel. Robert is not very aristocratic in this scene, they couldn't follow his lead.
Robert, when you walk into a room full of women and they all go silent, you've already lost the battle. Just turn around and leave with some dignity intact.
I'm American, and wish that England could give us many more Dames Maggie Smith, Judy Dench, Helen Mirren, Angela Landsbury, Emma Thompson, et al. Watching these lovely women's incredible talent on screen is like being seated at a sumptuous feast.
@@RaymondHng Right, she would be included in the 'et al' category. No less notable or disrespected for their acting abilities and contributions to the craft. . But the ones I listed by name are my particular favorites.
Lord Grantham: you have exposed my family to scandal. Me: really, more scandalous than a grown man abruptly storming into another person’s house in the middle of the day and telling her who she can and cannot hire. Which by the way I know it was a different time but still way to keep it on the down low.
Even Violet wasn’t dissing Ethel. Even she stood up for her. We all know how the dowager countess can be at times. She supported Ethel instead of slamming her for a poor choice. It was something that I just noticed
It's funny how Robert is mad at cora for supporting Ethel when Ethel was just trying to survive when Robert was cheating on cora with Jane. Yes I know nothing came of it and he ended it but it still is cheating so he has no room to preach about sins here when has a long record of humiliation and degradation against Cora and cora still stayed when most of us would have probably left Robert along time ago.
Well, I think in those days people considered it “normal” for married men to have flings, and although divorces did happen (rarely) during those times, I think society tended to put the burden on the wife to preserve the marriage. And in fact, Cora does call him out years later! When he accuses her of having an affair (she didn’t) and refuses to sleep in their bedroom, she says that if he can say with a clear conscience that he hasn’t cheated, he can stay away, otherwise she expects him to come back to the bedroom
There's a saying in my country: TRYING MORE OF POPE SUPPORTER THAN THE POPE HIMSELF, meaning Lord Grantham's moral standards and judgement can't be above a person who is trying to redeem herself, great lesson to be learnt by everyone here.
Oh that was wonderful! I expected Mary to get up and dutifully follow her father. I am glad that she didn't. Lady Granthum was spectacular. Many lots in life demand difficult choices. Not all jobs are honorable to all people. Those areas of other employments are very grey and highly subjected to one's morals and beliefs. Not all jobs are glamorous, but money earned to support one's family is at least honorable in part.
I agree that meeting your responsibilities using less-than-honest (for the time) means is much more honorable than not meeting them without a reasonable excuse. I think what's even more important, here, is that Ethel did actually leave her old life, and her old ways, behind. She was doing her dead level best, completely honorably and above-board, and that deserves a lot of recognition.
@@NemisCassander Ethel was driven to the life she was living after being turned out without a reference; she was embarrassed and ashamed of it. She was trying to support her baby by herself as the officer who impregnated her furnished no assistance. The child is his baby, too, but the woman got all the responsibility and was the object of all the disgrace and censure
@@themermaidstale5008 But didn't he die in the war or something? Something happened to him. When he died that's when his mother stepped in and took the child. Then the Countess sought to bring Ethel to work in the house so she could be near her son.. or am I thinking a different character.. it's been a while.
@@creativewriter3887 They met at DA when he was recuperating and she was in service there. He seduced and impregnated Ethel. She lost her position and after the baby came she tried being a laundress to earn enough for her and the baby. Ethel had informed him that she had had his baby, but he took no responsibility because he was a cad. I guess he died after he recovered and returned to fight. His parents got involved because Isobel and Mrs Hughes tried to help Ethel and the baby. The first time dead man’s mother wanted the baby but her husband wanted no part of it. The father of the dead man changed his mind I guess because he realized his grandson was a piece of his dead son and that’s the only grandson and heir he and his wife would ever get. Ethel may have become a prostitute over being separated from her child. Isobel came to her aid by hiring Ethel and everything worked out for Ethel as she went to work as the nanny in her child’s new house.
When I was Young I HATED Men like this. My Father would often be this way when he thought he should . But after Being Married for 33 Years to a very good Man. They can sometimes get Lost in what they THINK others think should Be right Instead of what IS right and we women Need to guide them. Our fights don't last Long But some of them Make Me roll my eyes. case IN Point Last Night I needed to remind My Husband why I a woman and History Major why I am so Upset at Him IN the abortion situation when He simply says well good thing we don't Live IN that state.🙄🙄😵💫
😂 Carson can be such a finicky old lady sometimes..! And also a hypocrite given his rather shady past.. and wowzers.. you can cut the misogyny with a knife in these scenes 😅
For us clueless Yanks out here, "pudding" in this context does not necessarily refer to a flavored, custard-like dessert made of milk, sugar, and a thickening agent such as egg yolks or cornstarch.
Con respecto al aviso de Cuprum. Solo en algunos casos los fondos son heredables, no en todos. Recibo mi pensión del antiguo sistema de pensiones, el monto que recibo es muy bueno, me permite vivir tranquila y muy adecuadamente, es reajustable cada año en diciembre y no, NO es heredable.
Yes, Robert could be a "cad" but, overall, he was a good man. He did some very nice things out of character of the men of his position and time period. He was much more sensitive than Carson. I can't forget how Carson was dead set against including Mrs. Patmore's nephew in the war memorial in the village, but Robert found a way to memorialize him, and how Carson was against the family showing their support for Mrs. Patmore's bed and breakfast after the scandal, but Robert showed up with the ladies for tea. I was never a fan of Thomas, but I thought it good of Robert save Thomas from being arrested for being gay. There were many other times Robert was much kinder than Carson who, for me, was such a prig and snob. ...PEACE to ALL
Whats ironic is sexists always say women are the emotional ones. The only emotional one in this scene was Robert, the only man. If anything men are the emotional ones who can’t control themselves lmao
"It seems a pity to miss such a good pudding" is a very British way of refusing to leave.
The Dowager was also complementing Ethel's cooking to comfort her after she was humiliated by the Earl.
Or for telling someone “we’re not coming with you”
I love her!!!
@@GeGEfasS Yes.. for a woman who seemed so stuffy and a traditionalist, the more the series went along the more we found out how very astute and adaptable she was (and had secrets of her own)... The only thing I can say is Mary's exclaim "oh Gran-NEY!!" :)
I like her 😇😇
"Who says I was at Crawley House?!
"I saw you going in!"
"Oh. I see."
😂😂😂
LOL. "I see that you saw.. so there's that.. "
“I’m glad that Mrs. Patmore has a good heart and does not judge” i love when Cora said that to Robert. Especially after Sybil’s death. Sybil was always kind and sincere to anyone.
Sybil was pretty much the angel of the show
@@LucyLovettLestrange exactly! She left a wonderful legacy for the family. To be kind to everyone. As Mrs. Hughes said “Sybil was a kind and gentle person. Beauty inside and out”
I think Lady Sybil would be proud of Ethel rebuilding her life.
I crack up every time Mrs. Patmore says, "Do I LOOK like a frolicker??" 🤣
It kinda looked like Mrs. Hughes was stifling a chuckle too.
ME TOO! 😂 I've watched that scene a thousand times just to hear her say it. I LOVE IT!
For anyone who's tracking the score -
Pudding: 1
Robert: 0
You made me burst out laughing. Brilliant. Thank you!!!
LOL Bravo!! It was such a good pudding! The only pudding that knocked the stuffing out of Robert! That's some good eatings!
And don't forget Mrs Patmore's score: ♾️
🤣🤣🤣
“I would guess he won’t stay speechless for long.”
🤣🤣
One of the best lines of the series.
I love how Maggie Smith can bring such wonderful comedic relief to an intense scene
Yes. I lijed it when she said she wondered if there was a dress for every occasion. Ha.
"It appears she has an appropriate costume for every activity"🤣
"Well of course these day's servants are very hard to find." Maggie Smith is so perfect
"I'm glad to know that Mrs. Patmore has a good heart and does not judge." A heart 💛of gold.
I love that. AND “Is that a Charlotte Russe how delicious!” Lol
"Do I look like a Frolicker?!?"
Robert and his outrages!😂
Do go home and pout with Carson my dear boy!
My goodness Carson was a Victorian butler through and through 😂😂😂
everyone's cheering for the dowager or cora whereas the real hero as usual is Mrs. Crawley. she was always more progressive and generous in both her thinking and her actions. what almost no one used to think of doing, she'd not only make plans of doing it, but execute it too. whenever someone needs help, she can be counted upon. she's the only one I look up to from this series.
*Crawley
@@joshua_hailey thank you for pointing. I'll edit it.
She's my favorite character.
Don’t forget Mrs. Patmore. She knew what Carson’s reaction would be.
@@l.a.3479 mine too
I love what strong, capable women they became over years of (what they perceived) as hardship. Perhaps it was Lady Edith having a child born out of wedlock opened their minds and hearts. So it doesn’t matter what hard times you may have fallen upon, you can start again and with the gentle help from the heart, one can feel their sense of dignity and respect of self, slowly returning. It is true that in helping someone, it is often the person helping that receives the greatest gift.
Oh give me a break. Did you read this on some ''motivational'' stickers? Too much sugar. No, you can't always start again, and ''gentle heart'' is never enough, wake up to harsh realities
r/Edgelord
4:20 -- Is that Lady Edith smirking at her Granny's remark, or actress Laura Carmichael holding in her laughter at Maggie Smith's delivery?
Cora's face was priceless.
One of the best lines in this series will always be “It seems a pity to miss a good pudding”. 😂
"you've exposed my family to scandal"
Like Robert making a scene, insulting Ethel like she just grew a magic baby all by herself and had the audacity to give birth to it, ignoring all the hard work to make this luncheon a good one and then, he storms out slamming the door like a brat being told no for the first time, sure, let's pretend like that's not a scandal. 🙄
Honestly if all the women banded together more often Robert wouldn't have been able to get away with nearly as much bullshit as he accomplished on this show.
Oh yes, all those magical disreputable babies sprouting out left right and center around upper class men
I have a stupid question about that. At this point, did Robert know about Mary's scandal with the Turkish ambassador? I mean, as far as scandal goes, a maid getting pregnant during the war is hardly grounds for a coronary when his own daughters did far worse in terms of Victorian/Edwardian social norms go (and notice I said norms, not morals.. I'm not making a moral judgment, just that he should look at the table for a history reference before judging a commoner). And as far as scandal.. didn't he foolishly mismanage and lost Cora's fortune?
@@creativewriter3887 Rules for thee and not for me...
Robert was not a bad guy. He was human. But it took time for him to allow his sensibilities and prejudices to fade away. He was a traditionalist, but really the only person expecting him to hold to most of the traditions was himself. Once he had enough humanity heaped on his shoulders, his resolve finally broke, and he became a better man for it. What really triggered the change was when Cora had asked him if he had ever done something he was ashamed of, and he knew good and well that he had, with his brush with infidelity. Cora was not having an affair. He actually was. It was after this that his overall attitude turned around.
The character building in this show was awesome.
I don't contest that Robert was petty, but the scandal was for Ethel being a lady of the night. Not so much for having a baby out of wedlock.
Yeah right, lets make him a ''baddie'' and women angels even though Robert would eventually soften and become less rigid and stand back allowing Mary to rule the manor and even though not all women in this show have been kind and honest. He was wrong here, sure, but wasn't Mrs. Hughs as well when she fired Ethel without reference dooming her to a hard life? (yes she tried to help her eventually but that wasn't enough, she could have gone another way about this whole thing to begin with
They all know at that moment, Sybil would never have left!
Sybil would have been proud. She would have stood up for Ethel
I love how spacious Isobel’s dining room is. I felt so bad for Ethel when Isobel raked her over the coals for cooking.
Im sorry, but Cora's reaction in the thumbnail and @3:17 absolutely KILLS ME every time🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭 Probably every shocking scene where her big blue eyes are STUNNED like this, i cant help but laugh!
Such BRILLIANT acting from Ms. Elizabeth McGovern
Indeed, very expressive face and a beautiful talented woman!
Brilliant, just brilliant. Every line, every close up.
Dame Maggie Smit is hilarious! Absolutely awesome delivery of that line.
*Smith*
@@l.a.3479 wow thanks for the correction we never knew... thank u for taking ur time to correct us idiots. U know typos are so sad.
Poor Mrs. Patmore. Add to her resume as a owner of a “house of ill-repute” the title of “frolicker.”
Shame! 😱😉😄😄
Agreed! Lol I couldn’t stop laughing when she said that. “Do i look like a frolicker” 🤣
That Mrs. Patmore is a Risque one 😂😂😂😂
"I wouldn't countermand your father."
"Then why bring it up?"
this was truly the best scene of the entire series
I love how much the show demonstrates the importance of solidarity among women
That was hardly a solidarity, the ones who were empathethic towards Ethel were Isobel, Cora and Mrs Patmore. Others just didn't care enough about her past.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849I think it's not that they didn't care, they just thought it would be too rude to stand up and leave. Besides, it would ruin their relationship with Isobel. Robert is not very aristocratic in this scene, they couldn't follow his lead.
Her Ladyship is the definition of high-class manners and feminine strength. You don’t have to be rich to behave in a way that is classy and ladylike.
I love how Mrs. Patmore took greater offense to the idea of frolicking than she did at the insinuation she spends time with prostitutes. 😂
No wonder Edith was so worried about her father finding out about Merigold.
I mean i wouldn't blame those ladies i would choose food over anyone😂
Robert, when you walk into a room full of women and they all go silent, you've already lost the battle. Just turn around and leave with some dignity intact.
I'm American, and wish that England could give us many more Dames Maggie Smith, Judy Dench, Helen Mirren, Angela Landsbury, Emma Thompson, et al. Watching these lovely women's incredible talent on screen is like being seated at a sumptuous feast.
Yes, it is.
Don't forget the late Diana Rigg.
@@RaymondHng Right, she would be included in the 'et al' category. No less notable or disrespected for their acting abilities and contributions to the craft.
. But the ones I listed by name are my particular favorites.
In America, young actresses are selected for their looks, then when the looks faint, one notices they can't act ( not all of them of course)
“I don’t understand, I can smell cooking.” 😂😂😂
Lord Grantham: you have exposed my family to scandal.
Me: really, more scandalous than a grown man abruptly storming into another person’s house in the middle of the day and telling her who she can and cannot hire. Which by the way I know it was a different time but still way to keep it on the down low.
What an excellent scene!
I guess she has an appropriate costumes for every activity hhhh
Awesome scene! Good for you ladies! 👍🏾
The Dowager Countess always has thelast word… Love Dame Maggie
Even Violet wasn’t dissing Ethel. Even she stood up for her. We all know how the dowager countess can be at times. She supported Ethel instead of slamming her for a poor choice. It was something that I just noticed
That Charlotte Russe did look yummy!!
It did! 😋 (but I do hope those aren't glacé cherries... 😕😂)
"Who says I was at Crawley House!?!"
"I saw you leaving there earlier."
"Oh."
😂
I must watch this series again!
The Countess reminds me of my mother😂.
Same
Wait do you mean The Dowager Countess or Cora?
@@dreamsteddybearsmaster The Countess, was one not clear enough?
@@Barnabydemossienaux 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I just know if Sybil were there, she would've supported Ethel too.
I love the smackdown the ladies give to Robert.
It's funny how Robert is mad at cora for supporting Ethel when Ethel was just trying to survive when Robert was cheating on cora with Jane. Yes I know nothing came of it and he ended it but it still is cheating so he has no room to preach about sins here when has a long record of humiliation and degradation against Cora and cora still stayed when most of us would have probably left Robert along time ago.
Well, I think in those days people considered it “normal” for married men to have flings, and although divorces did happen (rarely) during those times, I think society tended to put the burden on the wife to preserve the marriage. And in fact, Cora does call him out years later! When he accuses her of having an affair (she didn’t) and refuses to sleep in their bedroom, she says that if he can say with a clear conscience that he hasn’t cheated, he can stay away, otherwise she expects him to come back to the bedroom
Never judge a person by their past but what they are like today
I would have stayed for that pudding too!! 🤣
There's a saying in my country: TRYING MORE OF POPE SUPPORTER THAN THE POPE HIMSELF, meaning Lord Grantham's moral standards and judgement can't be above a person who is trying to redeem herself, great lesson to be learnt by everyone here.
This was a brilliant scene 😉
I think it the moment Cora was proud of Sybil cooking was the moment I started liking him
"They" set women up for failure and when she fails, they blame her.
Maggie always has the best lines⚡️
Hahahaha what were you doing at Crawley house this morning? Who says I was at crawley house? I saw you coming out!! Oh I see!!!😂😂😂😂that got me
4:06 everything
Oh that was wonderful! I expected Mary to get up and dutifully follow her father. I am glad that she didn't. Lady Granthum was spectacular.
Many lots in life demand difficult choices. Not all jobs are honorable to all people. Those areas of other employments are very grey and highly subjected to one's morals and beliefs. Not all jobs are glamorous, but money earned to support one's family is at least honorable in part.
I agree that meeting your responsibilities using less-than-honest (for the time) means is much more honorable than not meeting them without a reasonable excuse. I think what's even more important, here, is that Ethel did actually leave her old life, and her old ways, behind. She was doing her dead level best, completely honorably and above-board, and that deserves a lot of recognition.
@@NemisCassander Ethel was driven to the life she was living after being turned out without a reference; she was embarrassed and ashamed of it. She was trying to support her baby by herself as the officer who impregnated her furnished no assistance. The child is his baby, too, but the woman got all the responsibility and was the object of all the disgrace and censure
@@themermaidstale5008 thank you!! The man took no responsibility whatsoever!
@@themermaidstale5008 But didn't he die in the war or something? Something happened to him. When he died that's when his mother stepped in and took the child. Then the Countess sought to bring Ethel to work in the house so she could be near her son.. or am I thinking a different character.. it's been a while.
@@creativewriter3887 They met at DA when he was recuperating and she was in service there. He seduced and impregnated Ethel. She lost her position and after the baby came she tried being a laundress to earn enough for her and the baby. Ethel had informed him that she had had his baby, but he took no responsibility because he was a cad. I guess he died after he recovered and returned to fight. His parents got involved because Isobel and Mrs Hughes tried to help Ethel and the baby. The first time dead man’s mother wanted the baby but her husband wanted no part of it. The father of the dead man changed his mind I guess because he realized his grandson was a piece of his dead son and that’s the only grandson and heir he and his wife would ever get. Ethel may have become a prostitute over being separated from her child. Isobel came to her aid by hiring Ethel and everything worked out for Ethel as she went to work as the nanny in her child’s new house.
Oh WOW!
Cora is the essence of womanhood
When I was Young I HATED Men like this. My Father would often be this way when he thought he should .
But after Being Married for 33 Years to a very good Man. They can sometimes get Lost in what they THINK others think should Be right Instead of what IS right and we women Need to guide them.
Our fights don't last Long But some of them Make Me roll my eyes.
case IN Point Last Night I needed to remind My Husband why I a woman and History Major why I am so Upset at Him IN the abortion situation when He simply says well good thing we don't Live IN that state.🙄🙄😵💫
DO I LOOK LIKE A FROLICKER
😂 Carson can be such a finicky old lady sometimes..! And also a hypocrite given his rather shady past.. and wowzers.. you can cut the misogyny with a knife in these scenes 😅
For us clueless Yanks out here, "pudding" in this context does not necessarily refer to a flavored, custard-like dessert made of milk, sugar, and a thickening agent such as egg yolks or cornstarch.
Pudding in British English can be translated to dessert in American English
If Mr. Robert would have seen the currents times with these fan only pages...his poor soul would have had a thousand heart attacks😂...
I'm with Violet on this one. Yeah, Ethel fucked up big time, but Cora and the family need cheering up.
Carson was such a prig on too many occasions when dealing with his staff.
Today I’m going to stream it all Again on Prime. . :)
"I'm speechless" lol
Must be hard when even your own mother, the one who values keeping her family safe the most, agrees you're overreacting.
I WOULD NOT have left that pudding either
The Puddings have it!
Maggie all the way!!!
Maggie in for the throat kill lol
Schitterend acteerwerk van alle actrices.
🙂👏🏻💚
1:14 Lord Grantham might have something to see about that lol
There are times my husband acts like a stuffed shirt and I have to follow my heart-he gets over it
Robert was so often wrong in his decisions and hanging onto outdated attitudes.
Con respecto al aviso de Cuprum. Solo en algunos casos los fondos son heredables, no en todos. Recibo mi pensión del antiguo sistema de pensiones, el monto que recibo es muy bueno, me permite vivir tranquila y muy adecuadamente, es reajustable cada año en diciembre y no, NO es heredable.
Well, the angry men got their way after all. They overturned Roe vs Wade. They ended up telling women what to do after all.
How I hate Robert
I know. He's acting like a Sith right now.
Yes, Robert could be a "cad" but, overall, he was a good man. He did some very nice things out of character of the men of his position and time period. He was much more sensitive than Carson. I can't forget how Carson was dead set against including Mrs. Patmore's nephew in the war memorial in the village, but Robert found a way to memorialize him, and how Carson was against the family showing their support for Mrs. Patmore's bed and breakfast after the scandal, but Robert showed up with the ladies for tea. I was never a fan of Thomas, but I thought it good of Robert save Thomas from being arrested for being gay. There were many other times Robert was much kinder than Carson who, for me, was such a prig and snob. ...PEACE to ALL
Whats ironic is sexists always say women are the emotional ones.
The only emotional one in this scene was Robert, the only man. If anything men are the emotional ones who can’t control themselves lmao
The Dowager Countess has impeccable timing to add much needed comic relief to an intense scene.