WhatsApp, Web3, and Wordle: Evolving a Digital Society - Dylan Beattie - NDC Oslo 2022
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- We live in a networked world. Between our laptops, our phones, and the smart gadgets in our kitchen, many of us are online 24/7. We work and play, communicate and collaborate, across digital networks powered by open protocols - the standards and specifications that form the backbone of the modern internet. But, within the last decade, we've seen many online interactions move away from open protocols and onto closed platforms. We've abandoned SMS for Signal and WhatsApp, we've abandoned email in favour of Slack, Teams, and Discord; restaurants use Instagram and Facebook instead of running their own websites. And, most of the time, it works - but as more and more of our digital experiences are mediated by corporations and the platforms they control, what does this mean for the future of the internet?
Amidst all the hype about "web 3" and the "metaverse", let's take a moment to remind ourselves how we got here, and remember what's at stake. We'll look back at the promise of "web 2.0" and what it actually delivered, we'll talk about digital identity and net neutrality - and we'll learn what the Apollo/Soyuz space missions have to do with the digital protocols that underlie our connected society.
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I never imagined myself becoming a fan of a software conference presenter but here we are. Fittingly, Beattie is as close to being a rockstar presenter as it's possible to get.
He's already a Rockstar developer, Rockstar presenter is the next logical step.
@@Invariela certified one at that!
truly an Adam Curtis of NDC talks
Ditto. And I'm a theoretical chemist.
This guy deserves a TV show
He really does, one of the best speakers I've watched for a long time
I think he deserves two TV shows.
I'm already watching him on a screen regularly - why exactly does he need a TV show?
Maybe on the BBC where he can do 6 epísodes per year. Serious stuff can't be done with little time.
Great talk! Always great to hear your perspectives about Internet and technology as a whole.
The presentation starts at 13:10.
Yeah but if you jump to there, you'll miss the songs. :(
@@edgeeffect haha true. Just give ppl options :)
You the MVP
the presentation starts at a little village in France
This guy is the sole reason I have visiting NDC high on my wishlist for this year.
35:33 while I've never bought stuff on Amazon while drunk, there was a point in time where my family ordered grocery deliveries online (before it got big during the pandemic - we did this from, like, 2015-2017). One time, my mom had been drinking and added a whole pork loin to the order. She did not actually remember adding it to the order, so once the delivery arrived, she asked who between my sisters and I ordered it, and we had to explain to her that no, she was the one who ordered it, and didn't remember because she drank at least half a bottle of wine beforehand.
Dr. Adam Back proposed hashcash decades ago to solve the email spam issue. It should work well in any message routing protocol: if the included proof-of-work is below the routing threshold, just drop the message. You can't use money in a transport layer because the money transfer would have to be worked out via the transport layer, but you could use hashcash to prevent transport layer spam and then build the money transfer gating into a layer above.
There is a ton of work right now in Canada setting up simple online shopping websites. Tons of first nations pot shops are legally allowed to sell cheap weed and deliver it to ya, but facebook wont touch them and neither will most of the big web hosting / payment services, so there is a new market for building simple HTML websites with basic shop/user functionality... and the clients pay really well, and in cash! Just thought somebody here might find that funny... or useful.
Wow. This is a great talk. The email verification example is 👌 - we know how to build these protocols, convincing the incumbents to implement them is the hard part, and maybe direct financial impact is the way.
A good follow-up would be a capability theory primer, as ocap patterns suggest not only the sender verification flow but also addresses being per-interaction rather than public. It bothers me that to buy something online I have to hand Stripe/Square/Okta not merely the authority to a single transaction but the card details allowing them to make any transaction they like on my behalf. It's the same with email: rather than hand everyone the same address, handing them distinct unforgeable addresses would allow you to determine who shared your account with spammers.
I know this is late and quite a bit more manual than you'd probably like, but most email providers allow a thing called +-Aliases, where instead of me@host you can do me+amazon@host, me+playstation@host etc. and they all get into your "me" inbox. Haven't found a spambot yet that stripped the +Alias, so I'd know where the cause lies.
@@Adowrath Most of the cheaply developed sites don't allow for "+" in email addresses because it doesn't fit their bad email regex parser to detect if it's an email, even though (Dylan has another NDC talk about this) + is an entirely acceptable character for an email address. Also +aliasing isn't ubiquitous yet, a lot of the smaller platforms will send to it but not use it for an internal address that way (M365 has it as an option but IIRC it isn't enabled by default in the tenant).
@@LastElf42 Oh yeah, though I have found that almost all of the time if you just debug the JS and make the check pass/skip by force you can sign up/login anyway, and their email sending all works out normally lol. Just try it, and if it works, send them an email about it that they should change their frontend (verifying the structure of an address doesn't really help much anyway).
on the topic of the card numbers, it bothers me to no end not only that I have to do that, but that most websites (and users) want it to be saved so it wont be a hassle in the future."I'll just give these people enough information to make purchases on my name that I want them to remember so the next purchase is less inconvenient" would sound like a scary thing if we werent used to amazon doing it already
Good talk Dylan... Good talk!
Extra qudos for POV-Ray!
Till this day. This is the best conf intro ever
That's not even his final form. Dylan gives the best presentations.
The best presentation I saw this year. Great job!
Presentation starts at 12:53
Amazing presentation. And powerful talk💪
Handy that Web3 is all about blockchains, that way we know who started the dumpster fire and can follow all the contributions to it... :)
56:30 Apparently the locks on the doors didn't have any sort of physical key as a bypass. They were digital only. Apparently one of the employees had to call a friend who owned an angle grinder to bring that over so they could use it to cut through the lock.
Dude, when he showed the continents and RIPENCC and such I said to myself "What about Ant-arc-tic-a?"
Damn was that a pay-off.
The payment for web browser history makes some sense. It puts a price on your privacy and your information. With a dollar amount attached to our information, maybe we'd value it as much as the data brokers value it.
It would still reenforce inequity. Live in a rich neighborhood and use an expensive ISP with high speed and have a pricey new computer? That bid for your browsing history is going to be much higher than the slums.
And maybe that's a good thing? I'm not sure but in the attention economy using desperation to barter for private data to (at best) guide and (at worst) manipulate, seems like a bad idea.
... history? what history? 🤭
video volume is way too low, please consider re-uploading with higher volume
it's the outro from the talk 'any questions'
surprisingly good music in the preshow, I loved the one with all the advice. good job y'all.
Fantastic talk!
53:50 lol the website is right there on in the left corner, it works and is clearly maintained too
The literal rockstar who built computer stardom !
49:00 The same happened to me on RUclips but they cleared it pretty quickly.
Really nice talk ! I like the abstraction and "top view" on things.
Hilarious way to start a presentation..just precious
1:12:05 I guess there is no "Be the change that you wish to see in the world" here...
35:27 There's a South Park episode about that!
What about AEWeb and AEMail ? when it's done.. hardware expected in Q3 2024 🤔
13:05 - Talk Begins
Is it not against Russian protocol to shake hands through the airlock?
I thought this talk was going to be about blockchain and have aged very poorly but I'm glad it was actually slightly ahead of the trends.
oh my ... yes!
I’m surprised nobody in the audience has yelled “Bitcoin!”
Where to get the intro song?
This idea seems totally infeasible now but dang it is interesting.
43:40
It was Nadine Dorries that asked to ban the algorithm 🤣🤣🤣🤣
These guys are drunk on how smart (they think) they are.
Yep, well, reddit shit the bed with its API changes.
38:19 every time I hear some refer to their boyfriend or girlfriend (or spouse!) as their "partner", I imagine Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak or Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer.
I'm not referring to my partner as my "girlfriend" because we're not 17 😉
So, your saying that ARIN is not doing the job, and that's why the two companies with the node in washington that's going bad, prevent 5% of users of a certain game, from actually playing that game, when connections get "problematic", for not actually enforcing the agreement with the two companies who both claim to run the node, but also blame the other for not fixing it?
Thinking about internet access as a basic human right, I suddenly thought, like this will probably be the single "human right" that matters most when the actual discussions of "can AI have human right" starts.
Yeah, like if I'm an AI, this is probably the single most important "right" I care about. All the other stuff like food, water, right to reproduce, dignity, probably matters less than this lmao.
Can AI have human rights is like asking can a database, an Excel spreadsheet, a dictionary, Markov's chains, Google Translate or a pocket calculator have human rights.