Thinking a bunch of lawyers care about truth & morality over winning & losing is missing the forest for the trees. Better speech will always be the best deterrent against hateful speech.
7:40 The British government has also punished citizens for CORRECTLY identifying the perpetrators of horrible crimes as Muslim or immigrants. So being right or wrong has nothing to do with it.
He is talking about the Pakistani grooming gangs that have allegedly been grooming since the 1970s. There are claims members of the government knew about it and covered it up. There are human testimonies you can watch and read about. Parliament just voted against a investigation into these claims.
Elon Musk has never been in favor of freedom of expression, his goal is always to become more of a millionaire. He is blocking the X accounts of even Republicans, just because they objected to his idea of letting high-tech immigrants get visas to work in the United States. He has his factories in China and his financiers in Saudi Arabia, why doesn't he say anything about freedom of expression in those countries?
@@rossalynmoore5407 Decide?? Some folk use takung offence as a way of neutralising political opposition. That needs hard challenging. Everyone makes up their own mind what's annoying to them. No changing that BUT when some 'Petunia' starts directing the police to hassle folk for speaking plainly it's time to give those characters a hard time.
In the EU citizens matter more than the profit of the few, we have rules and we feel protected by them. Even our officials and the rich can be judged and nobody is above the law. Now tell me, who is more free, a US citizen whose concept off freedom is dictated by the word's richest man or an EU citizen whose freedom is protected and regulated by voted representatives both in the EU Parliament and the state Parliaments? Don't speak to me about freedom, we Europeans created the word.
In the US, nobody is forced to listen to Musk. Whereas you are talking about your government wanting to silence him and other views that they disagree with. In any case, Europe does not have a promising future. So, it doesn't really matter what Europe does or doesn't do.
None of these EU or Brazilian politicians had a problem with Twitter/X when it was owned and run by people who shared their views. As soon as a public platform starts allowing people to disagree with them, they want to get the law involved.
Curious how Elon said he was buying Twitter because he was a supporter of free speech and turned it into a conspiracy theory and hate speech only platform. He's even going after MAGAts who have criticized him now. The only advertisers who are willing to be seen on that site are scammers and fraudsters. And so he wants to sue advertisers for exercising their right to not have anything to do with a business that will hurt their bottom line.
Thank God Elon bought it. Take it out of the control of liberal globalists, communists, do you need to shut the fluff up. And let people speak freely. They don't like being criticized. Bully globalist
Not true. Elon is actively spreading dangerous lies and propaganda, and has multiplied his own voice by like 1000x. Poor boy, he only has 500 billion and just bought the presidency, I feel so so sorry for him, as he tries to subvert democracies all over the world, while of course never criticizing Putin or Xi. Poor poor boy!
they had less of a problem with twitter when it cared about presenting objectively true and socially responsible information. since elon musk took control of twitter, twitter has become a source of false, misleading and socially irresponsible information which serves musk's agenda of amassing power for himself, something a responsible government should absolutely stand against.
New ACLU? They have always been a Marxist organization. They were started by communists and have almost exclusively favored leftist causes instead of civil liberties independent of ideology. Show may any time they fought for anyone's Second Amendment rights.
Free speech isn't free if any of it is controlled. It simply isn't. And frankly the argument that money alone allows one to drown out free speech shows you don't understand free speech. It doesn't matter how much money Musk has, he can only talk as much as anyone else. If you judge someone's argument by their wealth or status... well... that's not a good sign about your character. And even if you think he can give himself more of a platform, well that's not really accurate either. Free speech means allowing anyone to compete equally on his platform. If you found evidence of him pushing down others tweets with algorithm manipulation or something then guess what, its not free speech.
The difference is that Musk has a mega phone that is used to spread disinformation around the globe and he's silencing all speech that corrects Musk's falsehoods. The question is, why defend disinformation?
@@briant7265 Indeed, though actually I just heard that X was planning a "positivity score", which, uh, doesn't sound particularly good for free speech.
Truth is vital and necessary to protect against lies and evil intentions of bad actors trying to destroy our intelligent discourse and treating others with dignity and respect. Ordinary people deserve protection against foreign interference in our media. Truth is paramount!!!
Truth is paramount wherever it comes from. Even if it is from foreign sources. That is what Elon is doing to EU. Would you say the EU needs to protect against the foreign interferance of Elon?
The "too big so it drowns out other people" is such a dumb argument. And it only gets brought up when you dont like what the other side is saying. You never hear the left say this when celebrities or actors or musical artists bring up politics they agree with
totally agree. Nothing is stopping anyone else from becoming more popular than Elon Musk to have a greater reach. The more right you are, the more likely people will agree with you and your opinion will gain greater reach. It just so happens that the majority of people agree with Elon which helps him continue to have greater influence.
When European citizens say the same thing Elon does they are simply thrown in jail. That’s why his voice and opinions matter more. Plenty of people are/have been saying the same for years.
It's not about that; you're correct; it's that Elon is a government official for the United States of America now, not just the owner of a few companies. Big big difference.
It doesn’t seem like Niall (an Irish immigrant) has fully assimilated into adopting American values since he clearly does not believe in free speech. What a shame!
Bro i literally had a Trump supporter report my comment in the FB wallstreetbets group this morning lol trumpers hate free speech too if it's hurting their fee fees
@WeToddEd-r3g His comment had no partisan nature to it. He is just stating that free speech is an American value. You are the one assuming that if he is fighting for free speech, he must be MAGA. That should be very telling to you.
@KatieKatDA To act like "championing for free speech" hasn't been some right wing talking point they bring up for the last few years, is extremely disingenuous and shallow of you.
@@WeToddEd-r3g True it is, but his statement isn't fervent. You respond attacking MAGA because why, he said free speech is an American value? It shows how incredibly shallow you are. Instead of finding a moment of concensus, you use it as a moment to attack/critcize a person. And for what because you think he is a member of the other party, and you think his statement must have meant the left doesn't value it or something. You are attacking for him for your own thoughts. Again, this interaction should tell you about yourself....
"Meddling" is such a freely used term. If I say that China shouldn't be setting up concentration camps for Uyghurs, is that "meddling" or is that raising awareness? Furthermore, is it fair to silence a person based on their wealth? In the same way it would be unfair to silence the pauper because they lack money it is no more unfair to silence the rich because they have money. The freedom of speech, in theory and general practice in a desirably free world, should be universal and not restricted to people because on perceptions.
@@Americium-120 not sure about meddling as “freely” used, I used it intentionally as one who is interjecting their unwarranted comments (which he only has bc of his wealth) to stir up controversy on the global scene. Nothing about freedom of speech here, only he has it bc of his wealth, not his knowledge or common sense. No one elected him, yet this billionaire interjects and influences policy through buying it. He was successfully doing it in the US, now he wants to try it on other nations. Good for the EU for standing up to this megalomaniac! Anyone as immature and narcissistic shouldn’t have any global influence.
It is astonishing how idiots can spin and normalize an idea of insanity…they are ignorant of the fact that ‘what goes ‘round, comes ‘round!’ And…good sense can never be made of insanity!
As a “European” who has had to put up with these EU bureaucrats & their activities for years, I would prefer it if the USA would free us from this kind of Moloch and give us back our former democracy, with which we were more satisfied.
That far right propaganda and tik tok is melting brains. Corporations would feed you slow acting poisons if allowed. The United States is a blatant example of this. *Side story:* The far right does not like an educated populace. In the U.S. (1990's), Clinton pushed for more education as he pushed the U.S. into globalization. But while the right did like the economic boost globalization would bring, they did not like the idea of improving on education. TODAY... in midst of this global economy, That same right party says we don't have enough engineers so we have to import them. Trust me bro... you don't want us taking over.
@@shawnrosspeters Nothing wrong with hating something. You are doing it yourself. Are you trying to restrict how folk feel about things. That could get a body in trouble in some places. Nowt wrong with racism - someone just told you that? Its a playground taunt of recent vintage. The Michaelpenco comment is pasted straight from MSN. Liberal propaganda.
Musk has the right to say what he thinks just as much as anybody else. And he happens to be right by the way. The EU winkies just dont like being called out for their behavior.
not only is musk not right about much of what he says and advocates for, less autonomy for institutions held in the public trust, he has no right to exert such outsized control over the forum in which that speech is presented. he controls the platform on which free speech is expressed, because his wealth allows for it, and therefore controls which voices speak louder than others. if you're so pathetic that you think the wealthiest in society should have so much power over what you say and do, that's your decision to make if you're that servile, but that's not a decision that others, particularly musk, will be making for the rest of us.
Arguments about one voice luder than many ? literaly since inception of media that has been the case , even more so since media consolidated under billionares , not because its profitable but because they can afford it loosing money as long as it can be traded for influence and legislative action in other fields.
This should be infuriating Americans. He has security clearances and Starlink enables him to detect the movement of stealth fighter aircraft. Who is he sharing that information with.
Is free speech truly "free" if the feed you see is determined by an algorhytm that excessively promotes the messages of 1 man (being the owner of the platform) while limiting the visibility of messages that the owner finds unfavorable, or even get censored sometimes???? A lot of people are portraying Musk as some kinda knight of free speech. Seems to me his advocacy only extends to the point where this serves himself
The US is banning TikTok within US territory and stating that Free Trade is a bad thing, I don't see why the EU should allow American companies operate here. Access to the EU market is a privilege not a right.
Politicians can stifle speech, but they can’t stifle thought. Speech limitations drive unpopular thought underground. That’s far more dangerous than letting unpopular people say what they think.
Ah, in today's increasingly dire world its good to see The Hill and so many intelligent commenters here bravely deciding to stay the course and continue to show billionaires how much they can fit entirely down their throats
@@UniqueBreakfastTaco brother if you think bending over for the unchecked power of capital is standing up for the little guy then I've got a bridge to sell you. You probably can't wait to let the 1% run your pockets
As a European citizen, i can hand on heart say that EU politics is a much MUCH greater threat to the people than Russia or any other agressor have ever been.
May I ask why? I live in the US since 7 years and want to move back to Europe. If I’m honest, I don’t really know what is going on in Europe, or it’s difficult for me to believe, that Europe has changed that much in just 7 years.
@@MissRed92837 Europe has changed a lot. Open anti-Semitism is making a comeback in Europe. It's gotten so radical that AFD can openly portray the Nazis in a positive light and casting the Allies in a negative light without anybody blinking an eye. It's also become a lot more authoritarian in some other ways, particularly in its approach to the internet. That trend is going to continue for sure with Trump's return to the WH.
Think you might want to rethink that look up two British MP's that were murdered and the reasons behind their murders. Labour MP Jo Cox & Conservative MP r David Anthony Andrew Amess. Words have power and are weapons.
Why does Leon must block people who disagree with him? And why did his farther marry his stepdaughter who he raised from when she was 4 years old, sounds like a groomer to me.
The leaders she be ashamed to even speak after letting it get so bad. Can you imagine anything more evil than being subject to grooming(what a joke) gangs at that age! Horrifying
Hey Robbie,the question to your co host should be who DEFINES what is hate speech. THAT'S why we can never abandon freedom of speech in ANY way. Politicians will 100% use it as a weapon !
Syme, 1984 Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.
Euro govt is getting very remote from the public opinions. Unresponsive to popular demands. Several states are trying to. perpetuate ancient feuds with neighbours and in concert with America's NATO are driving towards war with neighbours (mainly but not only Russia). Several countries are greatly restricting freedom of individual freedoms. Its a hard choice you have to make.
When expressing thoughts becomes illegal, that’s where the line should be drawn. We are human. What I think today, I may change my mind on, tomorrow. Why am I, or anybody else, not allowed to have those thoughts and express it so a person can work through it ?
4:45 it is not a valid view. The guy making that point is just jealous that the power is not in his hands. He doesn’t want free speech to be governed by the many, he just wants to personally be the one to decide. If he had control over X he would not be saying what he is saying.
@ Jan, governments, and people in power do not cede that power. Musk is not hated because of what his platform does, he is hated because the government does not have the power that he has. Why would you think that I am wrong? What leads you to believe that person is benevolent and wants free speech in Europe? There is no evidence to support any claim that European leaders want free speech, in fact quite the opposite.
People follow Musk on X because they choose to... And he only affects you in so much as his views seem sensible to you. Following Musk on.X does not mean that you agree with him. He's basically a celebrity... People are interested in whatever celebrities they find relevant.
What's the difference from a billionaire giving money to government for sway and a billionaire voicing his opinion. It's not like they are tell people what others are thinking or what they generally have in their head. Besides why do semi elected people get to speak (in general) and others do not. Doesn't the answer just jump out at you?
"No government is qualified to make these determinations", says the smoothbrain behind the mic. If the United States of Trumperica no likey, then no goody. Awfully smug for a type reader.
Musk is giving off serious villain vibes. Overpaid for Twitter, duh X Mars CCUP ARS ; Musk was over herd declaring himself the ‘Supreme Overlord of Dookie Twot!’
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EVERYONE needs to sanction Elon Musk. Get control back.
i really like alot of stuff that the eu does but freedom of speech is more important than the what the eu does. i dont care if it makes them uncomfortable. i believe that us citizens should use our freedom of speech for people that dont have it like we do.
Influence relies on respect. Respect relies on reliability and integrity. What have the EU commission members done for humanity? What has Elon Musk done for humanity?
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Words are not violence, as long as it’s not direct threats. EU wants to silence criticism. Thats a big problem.
News anchors can now mock accents again without getting canceled.
Back to normal.
Apparently…
Robbie do China next
😆
Works both ways, I'd imagine.
Thinking a bunch of lawyers care about truth & morality over winning & losing is missing the forest for the trees.
Better speech will always be the best deterrent against hateful speech.
Absolutely, that's why America's forefathers put free speech rights in our constitution.
7:40 The British government has also punished citizens for CORRECTLY identifying the perpetrators of horrible crimes as Muslim or immigrants.
So being right or wrong has nothing to do with it.
Really which ones
Like the Dutch football hooligans actually turned out to be Israeli football hooligans.
That kind of "correctly"?
I'm going to assume you are lying.
Can you list like a source or something of this claim??? Cause i really want to look into whether this is true or not
He is talking about the Pakistani grooming gangs that have allegedly been grooming since the 1970s. There are claims members of the government knew about it and covered it up. There are human testimonies you can watch and read about.
Parliament just voted against a investigation into these claims.
Free speech goes both ways. Don't get upset if you say something offensive and you get a verbal backhand.
Or any other kind of back hand ✊🏻 Actions have consequences don't they just 😊
Elon Musk has never been in favor of freedom of expression, his goal is always to become more of a millionaire. He is blocking the X accounts of even Republicans, just because they objected to his idea of letting high-tech immigrants get visas to work in the United States. He has his factories in China and his financiers in Saudi Arabia, why doesn't he say anything about freedom of expression in those countries?
A back hand is considered violence and so not covered under free speech. It is also censoring and so not speech.
Offensive... Do you get to decide that?
@@rossalynmoore5407 Decide?? Some folk use takung offence as a way of neutralising political opposition. That needs hard challenging.
Everyone makes up their own mind what's annoying to them. No changing that BUT when some 'Petunia' starts directing the police to hassle folk for speaking plainly it's time to give those characters a hard time.
Niall, you’re a nice guy, and we like you a lot more than Bri. But you are dead wrong regarding free speech.
In the EU citizens matter more than the profit of the few, we have rules and we feel protected by them. Even our officials and the rich can be judged and nobody is above the law. Now tell me, who is more free, a US citizen whose concept off freedom is dictated by the word's richest man or an EU citizen whose freedom is protected and regulated by voted representatives both in the EU Parliament and the state Parliaments? Don't speak to me about freedom, we Europeans created the word.
In the US, nobody is forced to listen to Musk. Whereas you are talking about your government wanting to silence him and other views that they disagree with.
In any case, Europe does not have a promising future. So, it doesn't really matter what Europe does or doesn't do.
None of these EU or Brazilian politicians had a problem with Twitter/X when it was owned and run by people who shared their views. As soon as a public platform starts allowing people to disagree with them, they want to get the law involved.
Curious how Elon said he was buying Twitter because he was a supporter of free speech and turned it into a conspiracy theory and hate speech only platform. He's even going after MAGAts who have criticized him now. The only advertisers who are willing to be seen on that site are scammers and fraudsters. And so he wants to sue advertisers for exercising their right to not have anything to do with a business that will hurt their bottom line.
Thank God Elon bought it. Take it out of the control of liberal globalists, communists, do you need to shut the fluff up. And let people speak freely. They don't like being criticized. Bully globalist
Not true. Elon is actively spreading dangerous lies and propaganda, and has multiplied his own voice by like 1000x. Poor boy, he only has 500 billion and just bought the presidency, I feel so so sorry for him, as he tries to subvert democracies all over the world, while of course never criticizing Putin or Xi. Poor poor boy!
Well. Sure. It's how they get rid of their enemies boardroom style.
they had less of a problem with twitter when it cared about presenting objectively true and socially responsible information. since elon musk took control of twitter, twitter has become a source of false, misleading and socially irresponsible information which serves musk's agenda of amassing power for himself, something a responsible government should absolutely stand against.
You sure the ACLU would come to your defence? Have you paid any attention to the 'new' ACLU?
Its a private platform free speech doesn't apply what does the ACLU even have to do with it???
Remember they would say that to us
New ACLU? They have always been a Marxist organization. They were started by communists and have almost exclusively favored leftist causes instead of civil liberties independent of ideology. Show may any time they fought for anyone's Second Amendment rights.
No one ever accused the EU of being benign in any way.
Do a deep dive into Elone vs the Groomings in England. He is a hero for DOING SOMETHING about these horrific crimes.
Why are our beloved non corrupted leaders so scared ?
Free speech isn't free if any of it is controlled. It simply isn't. And frankly the argument that money alone allows one to drown out free speech shows you don't understand free speech. It doesn't matter how much money Musk has, he can only talk as much as anyone else. If you judge someone's argument by their wealth or status... well... that's not a good sign about your character. And even if you think he can give himself more of a platform, well that's not really accurate either. Free speech means allowing anyone to compete equally on his platform. If you found evidence of him pushing down others tweets with algorithm manipulation or something then guess what, its not free speech.
The difference is that Musk has a mega phone that is used to spread disinformation around the globe and he's silencing all speech that corrects Musk's falsehoods. The question is, why defend disinformation?
When you're used to being the only voice, a dissenting voice feels like oppression.
@@briant7265 Indeed, though actually I just heard that X was planning a "positivity score", which, uh, doesn't sound particularly good for free speech.
They can threaten, but Musk has the most poweful country backing him. The Eu is all talk, everyone knows this including Putin. 🤣🤣
That country can't to anything if they block X and force him to sell (like TikTok) or be banned.
Where was all this concern when Twitter was suppressing conservative speech?
Elon has been banning conservative speech while making noise about the importance of free speech. Wake up
There’s the problem. Who defines “hate speech”? It’s made up to shut down opposing opinions.
I define Joyless Reid's bigoted rants as hate speech
@@synthmaven So you hate facts?
@@markojotic So u hate America? So u hate truth?
@@markojotic LOL Joyless Reid is anything but factual LOL !
@@synthmaven So name a lie then.
Truth is vital and necessary to protect against lies and evil intentions of bad actors trying to destroy our intelligent discourse and treating others with dignity and respect. Ordinary people deserve protection against foreign interference in our media. Truth is paramount!!!
And what pray is truth. How shall it be known.
Truth is paramount wherever it comes from. Even if it is from foreign sources. That is what Elon is doing to EU. Would you say the EU needs to protect against the foreign interferance of Elon?
Truth that doesn’t go along with the liberal European narrative is still truth.
Balances and Checks of practice. Fair reflection and self-reflection but most human beings can’t attain that in themselves, forget en masse…
@@raquelhasty7104 They seem unable to say clearly what this value called 'truth' is.
Maybe they find it in some ancient mystical text.
The answer to speech you don't like is more speech.
One must always be aware of fighting for democracy with non democratic policies
Amen! Like sending your justice department to prosecute your political opponent. God protect us from the "defenders of democracy."
Promise you won't censor us when we tell you what we think?
🤣OMG! I loved that French accent. And then Robby busts out his even better German one! More! I must have more! 😄
The "too big so it drowns out other people" is such a dumb argument. And it only gets brought up when you dont like what the other side is saying. You never hear the left say this when celebrities or actors or musical artists bring up politics they agree with
Agreed. It’s big because ppl want to know what he’s saying
totally agree. Nothing is stopping anyone else from becoming more popular than Elon Musk to have a greater reach. The more right you are, the more likely people will agree with you and your opinion will gain greater reach. It just so happens that the majority of people agree with Elon which helps him continue to have greater influence.
When European citizens say the same thing Elon does they are simply thrown in jail. That’s why his voice and opinions matter more. Plenty of people are/have been saying the same for years.
It’s always hilarious when a news pundit or a politician with tremendous influence complains that business people also have influence
It's not about that; you're correct; it's that Elon is a government official for the United States of America now, not just the owner of a few companies. Big big difference.
It doesn’t seem like Niall (an Irish immigrant) has fully assimilated into adopting American values since he clearly does not believe in free speech. What a shame!
Bro i literally had a Trump supporter report my comment in the FB wallstreetbets group this morning lol trumpers hate free speech too if it's hurting their fee fees
@WeToddEd-r3g His comment had no partisan nature to it. He is just stating that free speech is an American value. You are the one assuming that if he is fighting for free speech, he must be MAGA. That should be very telling to you.
@KatieKatDA To act like "championing for free speech" hasn't been some right wing talking point they bring up for the last few years, is extremely disingenuous and shallow of you.
@@WeToddEd-r3g True it is, but his statement isn't fervent. You respond attacking MAGA because why, he said free speech is an American value? It shows how incredibly shallow you are. Instead of finding a moment of concensus, you use it as a moment to attack/critcize a person. And for what because you think he is a member of the other party, and you think his statement must have meant the left doesn't value it or something.
You are attacking for him for your own thoughts.
Again, this interaction should tell you about yourself....
Robbie, you’re on fire🔥🔥🔥
Why should a billionaire be meddling in EU affairs? He shouldn’t be doing it in America, either!
Soros must go!
Elons drug use and extremism will remove himself from influencing so much in the future. He is not healthy mentally or physically.
"Meddling" is such a freely used term. If I say that China shouldn't be setting up concentration camps for Uyghurs, is that "meddling" or is that raising awareness? Furthermore, is it fair to silence a person based on their wealth? In the same way it would be unfair to silence the pauper because they lack money it is no more unfair to silence the rich because they have money. The freedom of speech, in theory and general practice in a desirably free world, should be universal and not restricted to people because on perceptions.
@@Americium-120Him operating in the EU is meddling. American companies shouldn't operate out of the States.
@@Americium-120 not sure about meddling as “freely” used, I used it intentionally as one who is interjecting their unwarranted comments (which he only has bc of his wealth) to stir up controversy on the global scene. Nothing about freedom of speech here, only he has it bc of his wealth, not his knowledge or common sense. No one elected him, yet this billionaire interjects and influences policy through buying it. He was successfully doing it in the US, now he wants to try it on other nations. Good for the EU for standing up to this megalomaniac! Anyone as immature and narcissistic shouldn’t have any global influence.
It is astonishing how idiots can spin and normalize an idea of insanity…they are ignorant of the fact that ‘what goes ‘round, comes ‘round!’ And…good sense can never be made of insanity!
Niall needs to understand the old adage about ‘Sticks and Stones’ !!
Release the epstein list.
As a “European” who has had to put up with these EU bureaucrats & their activities for years, I would prefer it if the USA would free us from this kind of Moloch and give us back our former democracy, with which we were more satisfied.
Nah US is a mess
@@janmrybakexcept for all the other countries 😂
you really think the usa is 'the land of the free'.. you would be amazed
@@runePV it’s not perfect but it’s better than all the others
That far right propaganda and tik tok is melting brains. Corporations would feed you slow acting poisons if allowed. The United States is a blatant example of this. *Side story:* The far right does not like an educated populace. In the U.S. (1990's), Clinton pushed for more education as he pushed the U.S. into globalization. But while the right did like the economic boost globalization would bring, they did not like the idea of improving on education. TODAY... in midst of this global economy, That same right party says we don't have enough engineers so we have to import them. Trust me bro... you don't want us taking over.
Hate speech ≠ speech I don't agree with
you are a redhead.. you can say 1000 times you have black hair.. you haven't
We know people like you want to have the freedom to be as racist as you please..
Hate speech is when a comment is directed to someone filled with vile and hateful words.
@@shawnrosspeters Nothing wrong with hating something. You are doing it yourself. Are you trying to restrict how folk feel about things. That could get a body in trouble in some places. Nowt wrong with racism - someone just told you that? Its a playground taunt of recent vintage. The Michaelpenco comment is pasted straight from MSN. Liberal propaganda.
Musk has the right to say what he thinks just as much as anybody else. And he happens to be right by the way. The EU winkies just dont like being called out for their behavior.
Sure and the EU has the right to ban whatever they want. The US is about to ban TikTok. Why couldn't EU ban X?
He has no right to DO what he thinks. He's not above the law, even though he believes he is. He thinks he is god.
@@Fairyviewroad And what exactly is he doing thats illegal? Allowing free speech on his platform?
@@staropikmin9626 he's allowing hate speech on his platform
not only is musk not right about much of what he says and advocates for, less autonomy for institutions held in the public trust, he has no right to exert such outsized control over the forum in which that speech is presented. he controls the platform on which free speech is expressed, because his wealth allows for it, and therefore controls which voices speak louder than others. if you're so pathetic that you think the wealthiest in society should have so much power over what you say and do, that's your decision to make if you're that servile, but that's not a decision that others, particularly musk, will be making for the rest of us.
How dare he shine a light on the systemic grape of at least 250K little girls? 🥺
UK isn’t even in the EU
All by Musk.
A PROVEN LIE!
@@VickieZimmermann-hm4dh The Muskies aren't interested in the truth.
@@VickieZimmermann-hm4dhliterally a proven truth.
Niall parroting censorship lines of Blob bureaucrats - is this just a deliberate wind up to your listeners?
I love Robby. 😂
Arguments about one voice luder than many ? literaly since inception of media that has been the case , even more so since media consolidated under billionares , not because its profitable but because they can afford it loosing money as long as it can be traded for influence and legislative action in other fields.
these guys look like an SNL skit--is that intended? Also, Elon Musk is a CON-MAN, and 2 con-men in the WH dining room is...oh yeah, the maga norm.
This should be infuriating Americans. He has security clearances and Starlink enables him to detect the movement of stealth fighter aircraft. Who is he sharing that information with.
Is free speech truly "free" if the feed you see is determined by an algorhytm that excessively promotes the messages of 1 man (being the owner of the platform) while limiting the visibility of messages that the owner finds unfavorable, or even get censored sometimes???? A lot of people are portraying Musk as some kinda knight of free speech. Seems to me his advocacy only extends to the point where this serves himself
The US is banning TikTok within US territory and stating that Free Trade is a bad thing, I don't see why the EU should allow American companies operate here. Access to the EU market is a privilege not a right.
Politicians can stifle speech, but they can’t stifle thought. Speech limitations drive unpopular thought underground. That’s far more dangerous than letting unpopular people say what they think.
Ah, in today's increasingly dire world its good to see The Hill and so many intelligent commenters here bravely deciding to stay the course and continue to show billionaires how much they can fit entirely down their throats
Loving gov are you? I'll take individuals over gov any day bootlicker.
That was funny!
funny, coming from a govt sycophant.
@@UniqueBreakfastTaco brother if you think bending over for the unchecked power of capital is standing up for the little guy then I've got a bridge to sell you. You probably can't wait to let the 1% run your pockets
As a European citizen, i can hand on heart say that EU politics is a much MUCH greater threat to the people than Russia or any other agressor have ever been.
correct
May I ask why? I live in the US since 7 years and want to move back to Europe. If I’m honest, I don’t really know what is going on in Europe, or it’s difficult for me to believe, that Europe has changed that much in just 7 years.
@@MissRed92837 Europe has changed a lot. Open anti-Semitism is making a comeback in Europe. It's gotten so radical that AFD can openly portray the Nazis in a positive light and casting the Allies in a negative light without anybody blinking an eye. It's also become a lot more authoritarian in some other ways, particularly in its approach to the internet. That trend is going to continue for sure with Trump's return to the WH.
The EU became that which they claimed to protect their own people from.
Hear hear, the EC/EU is making overtime.
So, who is being compelled to listen to Elon Musk?
There is no hate speech. Hostile comments do not cause violence.
American and European media are hostile towards left wing governments in Latin America and they tells us that it’s free speech
Control what folk say .... control what happens next.
Think you might want to rethink that look up two British MP's that were murdered and the reasons behind their murders. Labour MP Jo Cox & Conservative MP r David Anthony Andrew Amess. Words have power and are weapons.
😂😂😂 Robby's accents are so good!!
Why does Leon must block people who disagree with him? And why did his farther marry his stepdaughter who he raised from when she was 4 years old, sounds like a groomer to me.
blueanon comes up with some crazy conspiracy theories nowadays lol
Niall... still litigating the 1st Amendment... You go, Niall! You sound like a child, and of course none of your wishes will fruit. But you go, girl!
The leaders she be ashamed to even speak after letting it get so bad. Can you imagine anything more evil than being subject to grooming(what a joke) gangs at that age! Horrifying
This Irish presenter is pretty clueless about what is happening in Europe
Luigi Mangione figured out the fastest economical way to solve the wealth inequality problem.
I think that Elon Musk has the right to interview who he wants. At the end, it is the people who decide regarding the elections.
Hey Robbie,the question to your co host should be who DEFINES what is hate speech. THAT'S why we can never abandon freedom of speech in ANY way.
Politicians will 100% use it as a weapon !
That was one of his points and was said again later.
Syme, 1984
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.
@@briant7265 Newspeak always contains a lie, point out the lie and the word loses its value in the discussion
Actually, I think the EU is violating the rights of every European by depriving them of their inalienable rights.
What "inalienable rights" are you talking about?
@ the right to say what you believe and hear that of others
It’s always funny seeing British try and wrap their minds around the idea of free speech
First lady Elonski Muscovite must have his say! Wasn't it nicer when first ladies were genteel?
I almost always agree with Robby, but I like the fact that they both believe in a hearty debate.
Most of the actual violence ironically stems from the type of speech, the Irish wonder would have zero issue with... Not that he'd ever admit that
Niall is what Americans would call a snowflake. Let freedom ring!
A question for Niall is "Who decides what is 'toxic' speech"?
Apparently his real name is not Elon, its MElon.
😂😂😂😂😂 good luck
Euro govt is getting very remote from the public opinions. Unresponsive to popular demands. Several states are trying to. perpetuate ancient feuds with neighbours and in concert with America's NATO are driving towards war with neighbours (mainly but not only Russia). Several countries are greatly restricting freedom of individual freedoms. Its a hard choice you have to make.
Hey america you can keep Niall Stanage, sincerely the Irish people.
Consumers are already deselecting Musk's inferior cars. SKODA passed Tesla. Lol
The only hate speech I heard here was the Irish guy's French accent.
When expressing thoughts becomes illegal, that’s where the line should be drawn. We are human. What I think today, I may change my mind on, tomorrow. Why am I, or anybody else, not allowed to have those thoughts and express it so a person can work through it ?
Jean-Noel Parrot: " we have rules now to protect us from criticism".
I see Elon is out in Germany trying to cozy up and get some tax benefits for his Germany plant lol
4:45 it is not a valid view. The guy making that point is just jealous that the power is not in his hands. He doesn’t want free speech to be governed by the many, he just wants to personally be the one to decide.
If he had control over X he would not be saying what he is saying.
HOW do you know? Give me the steps that inevitably will lead me really have first hand KNOWLEDGE of what you claim you know.
@ Jan, governments, and people in power do not cede that power. Musk is not hated because of what his platform does, he is hated because the government does not have the power that he has.
Why would you think that I am wrong? What leads you to believe that person is benevolent and wants free speech in Europe? There is no evidence to support any claim that European leaders want free speech, in fact quite the opposite.
@TrentSLucas Answer the question! How do you know what you claim to know.? ?
@ because I am alive in the year 2025, and we have witnessed what we have witnessed.
@@janoltegen33 why are you supporting someone that wants to shut down your free speech?
Niall are you fine with the Guardian banning Zionists?
Baby blue suit should read the comments.
Thinking musk or his vp trump are pro free speech “ is hilarious 😂😂😂
People follow Musk on X because they choose to... And he only affects you in so much as his views seem sensible to you.
Following Musk on.X does not mean that you agree with him.
He's basically a celebrity... People are interested in whatever celebrities they find relevant.
Could not DISAGREE with your guest more, if I tried!
Free Speech has NO exceptions, except yelling "Fire" in a theater, when there isn't one.
OK, perhaps we can agree on censoring all future attempts at accents. ;~)
No business is qualified to make those decisions earlier.
Overwhelming ng!
What's the difference from a billionaire giving money to government for sway and a billionaire voicing his opinion.
It's not like they are tell people what others are thinking or what they generally have in their head.
Besides why do semi elected people get to speak (in general) and others do not.
Doesn't the answer just jump out at you?
Yeah you are right. Elon Musk releasing a new crypto is what the crypt community needed. XAI508P will be like the new XRP.
the EU is a freaking joke
Fascism is no joke.
@@synthmaven Socialist Marxism is worse, it leads to communism
At least the EU isn't controlled by MAGA fascist imperialists and oligarchs like Musk. Your country is rotten.
EU is the best place to live in atm.
It is but definitely not on this. Would have loved them do the same with Blackrock though.
"No government is qualified to make these determinations", says the smoothbrain behind the mic. If the United States of Trumperica no likey, then no goody. Awfully smug for a type reader.
A little jelly are we
I heard the dsm - 5 states that nazis can be treated with speed.
The hill does not know the difference between politicians and bureucrats
Omg they are so ridiculous with the woke crybaby rules ...
One question is whether it would necessarily be harmful to X for it to be banned in some or all countries outside the US.
Musk is giving off serious villain vibes. Overpaid for Twitter, duh X Mars CCUP ARS ; Musk was over herd declaring himself the ‘Supreme Overlord of Dookie Twot!’
EVERYONE needs to sanction Elon Musk. Get control back.
Sanction him for what pray tell? Who is this "control" going back to? Why should they be in "control".
Free speech is essential for better government. Incompetent politicians and bureaucrats need to be exposed so that they aren't doing more harm.
so you are against free speech just say that
That doesn't sound authoritarian at all.
Ok ❄️. Do mean words hurt your feelings? 😂
I hope the EU understands MAGA has Elon's nack.
Elon use to be a democrat until he saw the light and changed parties
granted, elon is on thin ice.
i really like alot of stuff that the eu does but freedom of speech is more important than the what the eu does. i dont care if it makes them uncomfortable. i believe that us citizens should use our freedom of speech for people that dont have it like we do.
Go Elon! 🙏
Whats the point of free speech if the effective volume of yours is "0" and Elon's "9999999"?
Influence relies on respect. Respect relies on reliability and integrity. What have the EU commission members done for humanity? What has Elon Musk done for humanity?
The War against the oligarchs started with
Luigi Mangione
The EU has no single freedom of speech law. It depends based on the country...
Pretty basic misunderstanding in how you are presenting this story.
I say leave other countries alone in this respect. We have no right to put our opinions on them.
and they have no right to tell what our businesses should do. they dont like our social media, shut it off then.
@@UniqueBreakfastTacothat is exactly what will Happen, Einstein
Is this how Elon is making America Great Again?
Is this considered an original thought or comment?
yup. sorry words hurt your fee fees
XAI508P is the sleeping giant of this cycle forsure.
Threaten away.
weren't the british supposed to come and arrest US citizens for memes last year? lol
Yes Robby…having Elon spew nonsense has been so beneficial in the US.